Angel Fernandez: Growing Up on the Border Changes You Forever | DSH #1741

Everyone that lives along the border has an uncle or a cousin that's gone a jail for transporting drugs.

Dan.

Yeah, no. Everyone that lives along the border knows someone that's involved with the cartel.

Why?

Just throw it.

It's every day life for us.

I'll tell you like this, bro.

I was driving up here with my camera guy, right?

He lives in the Invexicali.

And because I know this, I asked him, hey, you have any family members that are blah, blah, blah?

Yeah.

And his response was like, yes.

Hey, guys, save the best for last today.

We got Angel Fernandez came in from San Diego, right?

That's home for you.

That's pretty much home, bro.

I grew up in the pro value by an hour east, but both of them are like border cities, border towns.

And I grew up just kind of playing on both sides, managing back and forth.

You know, I'm kind of welcome, have keys to both cities or both towns, bro.

I feel safe in that home at both places.

That probably gives you good, like, perspective on life, growing up in environment like that, you know?

It does, man.

A lot of interesting, interesting stories, a lot of family members, right, that experience

different things.

It's crazy living down there because like everyone has an uncle or a cousin that, you know, has

done some stuff that they're not too proud of.

Yeah.

But it's like, it's like every day life out there, brother.

Got to do what you got to do this Friday, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

So you had to grow up pretty quick.

I had to grow super quick, man.

I had my first job when I was about nine years old, bro.

That's y'all, dude.

Yeah, that's too young, bro.

Like where were you work and your parents are?

I was working with my uncle, bro.

Okay.

Yeah, I was working with my uncle and then I would work with, with his son, my cousin.

My cousin was about 16 at the time and he had a bunch of landscaping jobs.

So he would take me with him.

My dad left when I was around like eight years old.

Jays.

So it made me grow up super quick, man.

No Saturday morning cartoons for me, man.

I started watching documentaries and I was watching law in order and I was like, nine, bro.

Oh my god.

So you just had to be the man of the house and nine, then that's elementary school.

Yeah, elementary.

Now I look at nine year olds and I'm like, yeah, now they're just glued to their phones

and iPads.

It's crazy, man.

I had to grow up too, too soon.

But you know, on the flip side, bro, it made me mature and be responsive by the very early

age, right?

Yeah.

So by the time I was like 16, 17, I was making three grand, four grand a month, like making

more than my teachers.

Damn.

Right.

Looking at school, like what is this really about?

At least for me, because my experience, right?

So yeah, it made me grow up fast.

Some people would call it negative childhood, but I just, I just kind of looked at it like

a big push, a big push forward.

What were you doing to make 3k mod that 16?

I was selling jewelry, bro.

Really?

Yeah.

So I was working at the local jewelry store and I was kind of through top sales guy really

quick.

So you were good at sales?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Since I was young, bro.

So I was in high school, like teaching myself the sales Bible, like I knew I wanted to

go into business, right?

I knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur and I knew that you had to be good at sales.

So that was something I self-educated myself on at a very young age.

Yeah.

Because I feel like you could take that skill and just crush it.

Yeah.

We needed every point of a business, right?

Yeah.

It's a huge part of this business.

Of course.

For sponsors, for guests.

Yeah.

You need to know how to find employees, right?

Convince them of the mission, right?

Sponsors, like you said, investors, right?

Just so many different ways for you to not sell, but communicate.

Yeah.

Communicate clearly of why you can help someone, like which is basically what sells is.

For sure.

It's helping someone understand.

I started making money in high school.

Did you end up dropping out or did you finish?

I ended up dropping out.

High school or college?

Yeah.

High school.

High school.

Yeah.

No, I was 17.

I played basketball, right?

I was talking about basketball before the show started.

I was playing basketball.

That's what kind of kept me around, bro.

Basketball kept me around right after the season finished.

I was Don Skies, bro.

I was ready to work, start getting that money and kind of start grinding, bro.

Yeah.

You wanted to get out of your house, kind of do your own thing.

Pretty much, bro.

My mom needed a lot of help.

The spot where I was staying was kind of small and I just made no sense for me to stay, bro.

Yeah.

I had to cut out and kind of experience life.

You know, take on the big city by myself and figure it out, bro.

And I'm sure at that age you're impressionable.

You're getting guidance from certain people.

Yes.

When Australia, I know you talked about the shooting and the thing.

Got caught up in the wrong thing.

For sure, man.

So I was really, really young, bro.

And I have some uncles on my mom's side that aren't the best role models.

So they started showing me a lot of gangster stuff, really, really young, bro.

Yeah.

Six or seven years old.

And I was already throwing gang signs.

No.

A six.

That's like first kindergarten.

I didn't have like a gang life in my teenage years because for me, it started really, really early.

But I remember moving schools when I was six years old.

And the first thing I had to do at the new school was like, you know, basically kind of claim my set.

So that was my, my first little experience at that school, bro.

Six years old running around getting jumped or fighting back, right?

So you got a lot of fights going on.

Yeah.

A lot of fights early, though.

I had to grow up early all the way through.

I got into a lot of fights early.

I won a lot of fights early.

And then the fight stopped.

I don't know why the fight stopped, Sean.

I mean, once you start winning, no one's going to start fighting.

You know, I've never been in a single fight, but I saw the kids.

I got in a lot.

Yeah.

And they always seemed like they had something to prove.

Yeah.

I had something to prove.

You know, I kind of got that chip on my shoulder early.

I got to kind of place on me.

So that was in my whole life, man.

That's still me right now.

I was always ready to prove something that people around me, right?

Proo something in my community.

Proo something in my family.

Proo something in my friends.

Like, that's just the way I think.

Yeah, same here.

Like, I still feel like there's my inspiration 10 years ago

is to prove people wrong that I can make it in business.

And now that I've somewhat made it, it's gotten different.

But I still feel like I have a chip on my shoulder.

I still have a chip.

You know what?

Last, for two weeks ago, I was in New York.

And I was around some, you know, big guys too.

Do some of their businesses for quarter building or whatever.

Yeah.

I thought the chip was off my shoulder till I got around them, bro.

All of a sudden, I just felt the chip on my shoulder again.

I was like, you know what?

Feel like I have to prove something to these guys now.

That's the key, right?

My level of competition, bro.

Like, I'm always engaged in it, right?

It's been like that since I started playing basketball.

I look at the guy that's doing better than me.

And I'm just ready to compete, brother.

Yeah.

I'm the same way.

I think you got to constantly be around people like that, though.

Yeah.

Because you get to certain levels.

And then you got to keep going higher and higher.

You got to keep growing, bro.

You got to keep evolving.

Because at the end of the day, Sean,

you're really about, right?

Yeah.

It's about evolving, you know, yourself.

It's about becoming a better version of yourself day and day out.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

So you got past those influences.

Now you're just crushing it.

You met our boy Mike Barron over here.

Yes.

You need to have been killing it.

Yeah.

So I met Mike's top sales guy.

His sales manager really had to leave a tonstone.

I was.

I've seen the videos of that guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hunter came on.

Yeah.

The Hunter came on.

It's just another day in the hood for him, right?

Yeah.

I was actually at Gucci first, bro.

And I heard some crazy engines.

And I was paying at Gucci and I told the guy at Gucci.

That's Lamborghini.

I hear it.

You know, he was like, nah, I don't think so.

It's a Nissan.

I was like, nah, bro.

It's a lamb.

So I paid at Gucci, walked out, went to Louis.

He was in the store buying my chicks and stuff.

Mm-hmm.

And I turned around and it's really russle walking through the door, bro.

So, you know, right away, we communicate.

We lock in.

We start kind of vibing with each other.

There's not too many guys that look like us,

spending bread at Louis Vuitton.

Yeah.

You know, we started connecting and he was like, man,

you got to meet my boy, Mike.

And that's what brought me to Mike Barron.

And you had a skill that caught his attention,

which was, was this sales?

I guess so, man.

I think it was just the vibe, bro.

Yeah.

It was just the vibe, bro.

It was just high energy from them, high energy from me.

That's just how I am.

You know, I have a high energy set everywhere I go.

Everyone's like, tone it down.

But I don't like to tone it down, bro.

I like to tone it down.

I like to be yourself.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly, bro.

Exactly.

So my dad's Cuban, bro.

And I was super young.

I was so loud.

I went to Cuba when I was like 25,

completely under the wall, so loud.

I was like, oh, shit.

That's how you're so positive, bro.

That's how you're so fucking happy.

That's funny.

Yeah.

So I felt right at home came back to the US and was like,

yo, no one is turning the shit down anymore, you know.

I'm going to use this in my advantage.

I love that.

Yeah.

But you had a high income skill to give value to him, you know.

Because people get the opportunity to meet someone like Mike

or someone they look up to.

And then they can't provide value.

Yeah.

For sure, man.

That's what I'm all about, bro.

I'm all about building bridges and providing value for people.

Like, you know, we just met.

My brain's already like, how can I provide value?

I think I'm the same way.

I'm the same way.

Because to get to the biggest people, you got to play that game, you know.

I serve people, bro.

Continuously.

I serve people.

Yeah.

And it's not just the people that are doing better than you are serving,

but you're continuously serving everyone.

Even the people that work for you are serving.

Right.

If you have that mindset all the time, bro,

you're just constantly attracting people to you.

I feel that.

Yeah.

It's almost like the opposite of being selfish.

Yes.

Of course it is, bro.

It's the opposite of being selfish.

Yeah.

And that's why people get where they get, bro.

Yeah.

I was, I would say when I started out, I was pretty selfish.

I think maybe you have to be at first.

Because you got to like grind and figure it out on your own.

But now as I've gotten bigger, I've been more giving.

Yeah.

You have to be selfish.

And that sacrifice that the people see in you, they start to duplicate it, bro.

You have an army of selfless people just want to get.

Yeah.

You know, it's very inspiring to people.

That's how you motivate people to do anything for you, bro.

Yeah.

It's a good culture to be part of, too.

You don't want to be in a fear based leadership.

Nah, not at all, bro.

People have run from that.

Yeah.

As soon as things get hard, people run.

They'll run.

They'll talk shit.

They'll quit easily.

100%.

You know, that's how most environments are, though, the workspace that I see.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, for me, bro.

Like most of my companies and people that work around me, I constantly have a line of people

who want to work for me.

Like, I was on the way over here.

That's a good problem.

I put up my DMs and people were like, bro, I'm ready to do anything.

Anything you got, anything you got, anything you got.

You know, like I constantly have people like that around me.

You know, I like to lead by example.

The people see that.

The people around me are happy.

I'm continuously evolving myself.

And I kind of demand that from them as well.

I demand that selfless action from them as well.

And, you know, people look at it and people want to be a part of it.

Yeah.

Yeah, you got.

Create a movement.

100%.

You got tons of DMs every day.

You do a lot of business in the DMs, right?

I do, bro.

That's my newest company.

That's the newest play, bro.

I'm sure you get tons of DMs.

Yeah.

I've probably generated.

It's got to be in the millions.

Yeah.

Even if it's not direct money, it leads to a deal.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

We met through DMs.

Yeah.

Probably like half my guess came from DMs and we've done business.

I'm sure you have so many DMs that you probably don't have enough time.

Oh my god, dude.

I probably get like no cap 500 a day.

Because there's like three folders now.

There's the request and then there's the hidden one.

Yeah.

So that's that's kind of my new play, bro.

My new play is taking advantage of that hole in the game.

I want to fill it with the right staff with the right team.

You know, I'm looking right now for about 15 people.

I'm going to limit it to 15 people only, right?

But I want to build a strong DM sales team.

I want to equip them with the skills they need to help people like you, bro.

Yeah.

I think that's a big need for because guys get thousands of DMs, right?

I'm not even like the biggest guy, but there's so much lost opportunity

to add that in some of these inboxes.

So I don't want to help people with people like you, bro.

Yeah.

Because there's a lot of filtering needed, too.

Because there's a lot of BS, obviously.

But there are some big deals to be had.

Of course, man.

It's a numbers game, right?

There's a lot of DMs for a lot of those thousand.

We're going to find some diamonds.

Yeah, dude.

I've got some of my biggest sponsors from DMs.

And it's crazy, right?

Sean, it's like exactly like you said, sponsors like it's not just people looking to buy something from you.

It's people looking to work with you, right?

It could be somebody like just on the same level of you as you or even on higher level.

But that's just how they're communicating nowadays, right?

That's how they can touch you.

Yeah.

So that's what I want to take advantage of.

We kind of want to scrape the DMs and make the most of them for people like you.

Yeah.

I mean, it worked for you.

So you just have to replicate it for someone else, right?

Yeah.

So I've been doing it for Mike Barron.

It's been working out great.

Yeah.

He crushes it.

I don't know if he's talked about his numbers, but they are impressive publicly.

Yeah.

Shout out to Mike Barron.

That's the guy, man.

Yeah.

You got good people around you.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Um, using any AI yet.

So I am.

Funny thing is we're just invested in the AI company.

Oh, yeah.

Which one?

No, say N O S C E, which in Latin means knowledge.

But in Spanish means no say it means I don't know.

Huh.

Ain't that about it.

Oxymoron.

Exactly.

So it's no say I invested in this company four months ago, bro.

And man, it's been running, bro.

I have a little genius behind his name is dusty.

There's a lot of like work.

I can't really talk about because of end of the days and stuff.

Yeah.

But he's like a little tech whiz.

Uh, we started the app idea, the AI idea kind of has a cultural cognizant AI, right?

Like a lot of these AIs nowadays, it's like, hey, it's not cognizant.

It's not cognizant.

We kind of want to flip that and we want to make it cognizant.

We want to just put it out there from the start.

We want to feed it culture and make it cool for the young people.

We want to create a brand around it, right?

But because my boy does see so good at trading cryptocurrency.

Hmm.

Accidentally, he kind of started teaching how to trade crypto.

So that's kind of our new AI will be launching that app in the next couple of months, bro.

Man, I would love to tell you more about it once we get.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'd love to.

Yeah.

My numbers are crazy, crazy, crazy returns leveraging basically longs and shorts on Bitcoin and so on.

That's smart, man.

AI has changed my life.

Yeah.

No, AI is going to change everyone's life.

Yeah.

It's always talking about like in the future, no one's going to have to work.

Yeah.

Bro, I did not believe that.

Once I met Dustin, we started making money.

Bro, this is crazy.

It's like we're not going to have to work anymore.

Like the amount of money I'm making, bro.

Yeah.

Not doing anything just off some investments.

It's crazy, bro.

Dude, I don't know if I liked that.

I love working.

Dead ass.

I'm not saying, you know, people don't love the work, but I mean, I could see it.

You know, like you'll have freedom to do things you want to do.

Yeah.

Like, for example, you, if you didn't have to work, have you ever thought about this?

I have.

What would you be doing?

If I didn't have to work, here's the crazy thing.

If you asked me that three years ago, I would say a completely different answer to what I was working on.

But now with the podcast, dude, I would still do this.

Yeah.

I'd meet the coolest people in the world.

Talking to people.

I get to learn so much.

Yeah.

Even if I had made no money off this, I would do it.

You'd probably be doing a better job at it.

Probably.

If I was chilling, yeah.

Yeah.

100%.

What about playing basketball?

I would still do that.

Basketball is life, baby.

More time for ball.

Yeah.

I lose money playing basketball.

Like, what do you mean you lose money?

Well, if you calculate my hourly rate, when I play basketball for three hours, I'm losing like thousands of dollars.

I don't want to take the fund or the meditation fund.

For me, it's therapy.

100%.

100%.

I'm not the guy that's fighting on core.

I'm there to just de-stress.

Yeah.

You know, if I see a fight, I'm walking the other way.

Basketball is such a quick game that you have no time to think anything outside of the sport itself.

Facts.

That's why players get lost when they're on the core.

Yeah.

They'll be dealing with shit off core.

Dude, in high school, that was kind of the thing that maybe kind of challenged me, right?

I didn't understand that I had to leave a motion out the game.

Because it's such an emotional game, right?

It moves so fast people are pushing on you with such a fast piece game that if you notice in the NBA, people get real emotional all the time.

They do.

They get mad, they push each other.

Teed up.

Yeah, exactly.

Rudy Gobert just fouled the shit out of someone the other night.

But some of the best ballers nowadays, they're like constantly meditating, bro.

Like the staff curries, right?

Yeah.

The KDs, right?

They're just in there and they're just flowing, bro.

Dude, so this.

This isn't public yet, but I was on the phone with John Sally this morning on the way to the studio.

And he was telling me how Victor Wimbledon Yama like got to a new level.

Dude, he was with the monks in China last year, meditating.

I believe it.

Because he was having some heart issues and he needed to get the energy flow in his body, right?

Because tall people have a lot of health issues.

And he fixed it through meditation.

I believe it.

Isn't that crazy?

No, no, I totally believe it, bro.

I started getting in the yoga myself from my mid 20s to kind of help, you know, my anger issues.

And that's kind of when I discovered that, bro.

I was like, damn, I thought I had this as a teenager.

Yeah.

Like I would have played the sport better.

I would have played the game of high school better.

Like life would have just been better in general.

The flow state.

It would have been so reachable.

It would have been something I would have been able to tap into at any moment.

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I did yoga two days ago. I'm still sore, bro.

I didn't do it for three years.

That shit's intense.

I was the only guy there.

These girls are doing side planks for a minute straight.

No issues. I'm like shaking.

How do a couple NFL players come in my classes, bro?

They couldn't hang.

It's intense.

And that was only an intermediate level.

I can't even imagine like the adventure.

But yoga's great.

I had the opposite issue of you.

So when I was a kid, I had confidence issues.

I didn't have it.

My parents got divorced.

So instead of anger issues, I just lacked confidence.

And when it came to basketball, I wouldn't play aggressive even though I was the tallest one.

And that hurt my game.

It also hurt me with relationships, friendships, and everything.

That's crazy.

I played too aggressive.

You didn't play aggressive.

Oh, you played too aggressive.

So you played it with a lot of anger.

Yeah, bro.

Like I was playing D.

Like I would pick up points.

You know, I was playing Boygard.

And I would pick him up a half-court, bro.

It was like fucking pick up a half-court.

I would slam the fucking court.

Boom.

They were booking me like, oh shit.

Damn.

Damn, that's nuts.

Yeah, I had the complete opposite issue.

My mom's boyfriend had to start paying me for every point I scored just so I would play more aggressive.

Yeah, I think it was like five bucks every point.

So what was the most money you got paid?

I had like 25 or something, but I started scoring way more when that happened.

Yeah.

I bet, bro.

I bet, bro.

$5 as a middle schooler.

Yeah.

That's a lot of money.

I bet, bro.

I did that with my daughter when she was young, man.

I was just playing soccer at the time.

I was like, look, I'm going to be 50 bucks for each goal.

Bro, one game.

She scored four, bro.

Damn.

That's a lot of soccer.

I was like, wait.

We're going to pull this back.

Yeah.

It could be an interesting tool when you used our, you know.

Yeah, I like paying my employees based off their output.

Good.

So like some guys will make a lot of money.

Yeah.

Because they're providing value.

I don't like hourly, dude.

I know that's a hot take.

America has become very used to getting paid hourly.

Yeah.

I hate that shit.

Yeah.

I mean, mediocrity is kind of like sinking into the American culture right now.

Yeah.

It's a say, bro.

But it's kind of like a blame culture.

And then, you know, everyone just kind of wants a participation trophy for not doing anything.

You know, and I don't know, right?

I disagree with that.

I'm against participation.

It's my culture.

What it is, bro.

But I feel like men, they're just not what they used to be, bro.

Right.

I feel like women started working and kind of taking that manhood from a lot of the guys out here, bro.

And I'm personally just not comfortable.

Yeah.

Every time I see it, if it's a family member, if it's a friend, I definitely try to talk to him about it, man.

Yeah.

No, I feel that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the number one reason people are woman cheat is workplace.

Did you know that?

I believe it.

110%.

Yeah.

So I would never let my wife work around other people.

Hell no.

Bro.

I mean, I trust her.

Don't get me wrong.

Yeah.

Just why would you put her in that environment?

I never put my lady in that environment, bro.

15 years.

She's never been in that environment.

It's not that I don't necessarily trust her, right?

It's like, I don't trust the guys around her, right?

And for a woman to constantly push back, I don't women are really good at pushing back.

Not as good as men have pushing back, right?

Yeah.

But I mean, she's going to have days where she's not a strong.

She's a woman, bro.

Yeah.

Right?

Women have to be cared for.

Women have to be protected.

That's what I was taught by my grandparents.

And that's the way I think.

I love it.

It's been working out.

My oldest is at UC Berkeley.

Let's go.

Right?

My second oldest, he's the ASB president at his high school.

Yeah.

Yeah, he just got accepted today to a couple of Cal states, but we're still hoping for UCSD.

So, you know, the family structure is strong, bro.

And that's what I see is kind of sacrificed, right?

With this new culture of both parents working is it gets kind of hard to have your kids kind of stay in line

and kind of get pointed in the direction.

Yeah.

Right?

That's what it was for my mother.

My mother had to work.

My dad left out at a young age.

Yeah.

And because she had to work, well, basically I had free reigns.

Man, I could do whatever the fuck I wanted.

She didn't hold you accountable.

She tried.

She tried.

But I was a young, tough boy.

Yeah.

And for me, it was kind of like, mom, I mean, you could try it, but my grandpa said that you're just a woman.

I loved that.

So you were rebellious.

I was rebellious, bro, when I needed to be, right?

That's the way I processed it.

So I was rebellious when I saw there was a need for it, right?

Yeah.

And in seeing my mom struggle at life, I didn't feel like she can really guide me in the direction that I needed to be guided in.

I felt like I can guide myself in a better direction than her.

I feel like.

So I did it out of bad intent.

I did it out of intent to kind of create a better future for myself.

So we got to a certain age, especially that late teenage stage where I started getting into some heavy border life stuff.

And at that point, I knew like, you know, she's not going to understand this.

I'm going to do what I have to do to get where I need to go.

Now, how crazy was the border growing up?

Because you know, I see stuff on the news about it, but I've never been there.

Is it actually crazy?

It's crazy, man.

It's crazy.

Like people are actually crossing and like, bro, everyone that lives along the border has an uncle or cousin that's gone in jail for transporting drugs.

Damn.

Yeah, no, everyone that lives along the border knows someone that's involved with the cartel.

Why?

It's just, bro, it's every day life for us.

I'll tell you like this, bro.

I was driving up here with my camera guy, right?

He lives in in Mexico.

And because I know this, I asked him, hey, do you have any family members that are blah, blah, blah?

And his response was like, yes, every time we go in Sonata, I have a cousin.

And whenever we go out to the club, it's one suburban in the middle, one sheep in the front, one sheep in the back, the plaza is hot.

The plaza is what they call an area there in Mexico.

So this is just like a everyday struggle for people that live along along the border, bro.

Geez.

Damn, I love Sonata.

I've been there.

Sonata is beautiful, right?

But if you're mixing the wrong things, it can become a very dangerous place.

Shit.

Yeah, I must have got lucky.

I was on a cruise and stopped in for an hour.

They're pretty respectful to tourists, bro.

Tourists are pretty respectful for you.

In Mexico gets a lot of its money from tourism.

Yeah.

So they protect that.

But yeah, Mexico is a heavy, heavy place, bro.

What people don't know, bro, is that the Mexican government is pretty involved with everything that happens.

I've heard some stuff about them.

Rowan and Trump knows that the current administration knows that.

And that's why they've been holding the government of Mexico so accountable lately.

Right.

Did you hear about the governor of Baja California getting her visa taken away?

No.

Yeah, she got her visa taken away.

The governor?

The governor of Baja California.

Whoa.

Got her visa revoked.

I think they try to take the house that she was building the whole way away from her.

Just because the administration that's in right now, they're not playing those games, man.

There's a lot of corruption in Cali politics, man.

There is.

Politics everywhere.

Yeah.

Well everywhere, but Cali did 25 billion for homeless.

There's a lot of money in Cali.

Yeah.

So like, you know, corruption follows money, bro.

Right.

Everywhere there's a lot of money.

Yeah.

And Cali's the fourth biggest economy in the world.

In the world.

Yeah, in the whole world, which is crazy.

Yeah.

And Baja California also.

Right.

So California and Baja California are the two big powerhouses in both sides of the border.

Baja California is like the California of Mexico.

Really.

That's where all the heavy tourism is.

Right.

And as you got the cobblers, you got all these nice places where there's a lot of foreign investment.

So they're like the crown jewels, bro.

Hmm.

It's funny.

I was in Kabul.

And it was so interesting to me.

And this is kind of out of the topic, right.

But I was in Kabul when I was staying at a really nice place with these beautiful homes that overlooked the ocean.

And the gentleman that that let me use his home was telling me that governor Newsom was just there like a week ago.

Hmm.

And that he stayed there for like two weeks.

Wow.

And I started thinking.

Wait, they just took the visa away from the governor of Baja California two weeks ago.

What is governor Newsom doing here?

Right.

That's weird.

Too weird, right.

I don't really believe.

Oh, no.

But all of a sudden.

So I was like, yo, now I know kind of why Trump's playing the game.

He's playing, you know.

I'm sure there's a big power group.

That's that's working on both sides of the border because there's such big powerhouses, right.

Kind of making their own place.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's levels to the game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

100%.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Yeah.

They're playing a whole new.

Newsom's brought in for president 28.

Yeah.

And he might win.

Yeah, he might win.

The pendulum swing.

Which is crazy.

He already fucked up California.

And now he might be the president.

100%.

I can't believe that.

But yeah, you're right.

The pendulum always swings.

Always swings right now.

Trump's got the lowest approval ratings ever.

Yeah.

You know.

And before he got elected, everyone was like super pumped.

But that's what happens.

Right.

And he never does what he says he's he was going to do.

I don't think he can to be honest.

I mean, they all talk a big game.

They have to bro to get elected.

Yeah.

That's the name of the game, bro.

They say one thing.

I want to get in there.

It can't be shit.

Gosh, Patel was talking super highly before he got in.

He hasn't done shit.

Absolutely.

What's up with that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think I'll I don't think I'll ever fall for it again, honestly.

Yeah.

I was on the Trump and wagon in 16 and pride in 24 a little bit.

But I wasn't, bro.

I got let down by Obama, bro.

Really?

He won, bro.

I think I got Terry Hyde.

I was like, it's about to change, bro.

Sorry, God, bro.

I was like, shit, it's about change, bro.

My dad fell for that one too.

Bro, this motherfucker didn't do shit.

She got worse.

I was like, bro, never.

Yeah, I don't think he can.

Never again.

So when Trump was getting elected, I was like, yeah, I don't know.

What's she about that?

It's all an illusion.

Yeah, it's all an illusion.

My thing is like so many people think the government controls how much money they can make and everything

and place a lot of importance on it.

When in actuality, you have so much control over that.

Yes.

So I grew up homeless in the worst environments and their self-made millionaire is not.

100%.

The government had nothing to do with that.

Yeah.

Responsibility, bro.

Responsibility is the ability to respond, right?

And responsibility, bro, is something that a lot of people just don't want to take.

Especially now, in this culture that we have, right, where people want parts of its patient trophies and shit,

they always want to put the blame on someone else.

Yeah.

But never that, bro.

The blame is always on yourself, man.

Yeah, but once you start putting on yourself, bro, that's maturity.

You get what I get, Stan.

I blame myself.

Yeah, 100% bro, that's you.

Yeah.

No, I have to because I made the decision to work with that person.

Yes.

So it's my fault.

100%.

Yeah.

I didn't do the right vetting for the deal.

Yep.

And most people would just blame that person and then live with that resentment.

Yeah.

Sean, what about you?

How long have you been doing podcast, bro?

It's been three years, bro.

2000 episodes.

I'm going for the world record.

Next year, we're going to be filming in Dubai all over the world because I've crushed the US.

I just made my new dream 300 lists for next year's guests.

I'm going to get all those guys on the show, bro.

I'm big on manifestation.

Nice, bro.

I saw you had the owner of Skinwalker Ranch on here.

Yeah.

Branded.

Yeah.

Branded Google billionaire.

I've had on probably 10 billionaires.

Yeah.

And I definitely want to keep in improving them because I have a lot.

But it's an interesting guy, bro.

Dude.

It's super interesting.

It's stories and knots.

Yeah.

He's an interesting fellow, man.

Yeah.

It's cool to humanize billionaires also.

Yeah.

There's a lot of people in the humans, bro.

Yeah.

A lot of people don't humanize celebrities and billionaires though.

They just think they're like on another level.

No.

Brother hardworking people who sacrificed a lot to get where they're at, bro.

Yeah.

And those sacrifices are very selfless in nature.

Yeah.

So it's funny to me when people call them super selfish people.

You know, like they don't understand these people.

They sacrifice so much to get where they're going to get, right?

And they look at people like Elon Musk and they're like, wait.

He has all this money.

And he just gave his money away.

But dude lives like the most austere life ever.

Yeah.

He's a minimalist.

He's like living in a little fucking tiny home.

Yeah.

He works in no last material.

It's crazy.

People just don't get it, bro.

People don't get it.

You know, what it takes is selfless actions, bro.

And that's what people don't really want to admit to themselves.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I hate seeing that.

It's like if you gave away 5,000 to everyone, you would end world hunger.

100%.

It doesn't work like that.

Money doesn't fix the problem.

It doesn't, bro.

It doesn't.

It's the mindset.

It's the mindset.

You could give money away to all the bottom people.

It would funnel back to the top.

100%.

Because we would know what to do with it, right?

Yeah.

And then when they spend it on the wrong things, they're going to put the blame on someone else.

Yup.

Yeah.

It's not a money issue.

No.

That's why I look at lottery winners.

I think 80% of them go broke within five, 10 years.

Yeah.

100%.

Because they didn't have to work for it, bro.

Yeah.

I lost all my, so I've lost my money twice because I just wasn't mature enough to handle it.

Yeah.

So you made a lot of money, young.

I became a millionaire at 23.

I believe lost it all.

I kind of lost it all, brother.

And then became a Deca millionaire three years ago.

Nice.

Yeah.

I didn't become a millionaire.

It's all around 33, bro.

33.

It was harder back in your day before the internet.

It was just, it was a long road for me, bro.

Coming where I come from, right?

So I grew up in this small little town.

It's called Imperial Valley.

And in this small little dusty town, there's a dusty, dusty little town called Celia.

It's like 300 people over there.

That's where you grew up.

I grew up in this town.

I grew up in a little trailer in this town literally with no opportunity.

The only employment there is like fucking working at the store.

There was one store in the whole fucking town.

She is.

Yeah.

Talk about humble beginnings.

Super humble beginnings, bro.

We didn't have concrete outside of our trailer, bro.

Oh my god.

Yeah, bro.

When it rained, we used to have to wear a little grocery bag around our shoes.

What?

Dude.

So yeah, no family.

So no car?

No.

No, no, no millionaires in the family.

No one really successful, bro.

Like talk about coming from the dirt.

Like it was literally the dirt, like dust storms all the fucking time, right?

And I had to, I had to find a way out, bro.

I had to find a way out.

And it wasn't easy.

It was, it was definitely earned.

There was a lot of nights where, I mean, you know what it takes.

Probably be a millionaire.

A lot of nights where they're self-doubt.

Yeah.

You just got to keep pushing forward.

You got to keep the faith in what you're doing right in the future.

You got to do it for your future self.

And you know, little by little, a lot of twists and turns.

But, you know, we finally got there, bro.

And it was, it was a great accomplishment.

Not just for myself, but as a motivating factor for, for my family, my friends, bro.

So let them see that, that anything's possible.

I love that.

So I'm, I'm a small podcast actually yesterday.

And they were telling me the same thing.

They're like, Angel, man.

You motivate us so much coming from where we come from.

Dude, that's sick.

For someone like you, you know, high school dropout to, to make it so big.

And now to be helping so many other people in creating a path for others to, to become successful, bro.

Like, we're so proud of you.

And it was so humbling, bro.

Yeah.

And you did it out at time where it was not the normal route, too.

Oh, no, there, it wasn't at all, bro.

And the internet was barely starting, bro.

Yeah.

It was a lot harder to become a millionaire back then.

100%.

Way harder.

Yeah.

And then place yourself in an environment where, you know, there's no, no bridge to, to get there.

Right?

I didn't go to college.

I didn't make the right connections like those, those connections were, were hard to come by, bro.

But I think that's also why I don't burn any bridges.

Right?

So that, that practice of having abilities, bridges and not having them set for me just kind of made me appreciate every single bridge I had, bro.

And it made me just kind of like, you know, turning to this very honest person and it's very fair person.

Where when I work with people, I just keep it really, really fair.

You value it.

100%, 110%.

Yeah.

You don't take it for granted.

Oh, bro, the more bridges you build, the more places you can get to.

Yeah.

And I see the opposite with people that grow up in money.

Yes.

They don't value relationships as much.

Well, they don't have to grow because they have money.

Yeah.

They have money.

Yeah.

And they can just kind of fuck people over.

Socks.

They say money cycles every three generations.

Yes.

So it will be a problem for our grandkids.

Yes.

Yes.

If you don't structure it the right way, it definitely will be a problem for the grandkids.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look at my grandparents.

Man, they grew up similar to you in like a village in China, like Dirt Poor.

And then my mom used education system to escape it.

Went to the best university in China.

But now I feel like that doesn't work anymore.

As well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I have no education getting 9 to 5 and becoming a millionaire.

Well, college college isn't what it would it used to be, right?

You know, my oldest is that you see Berkeley, bro.

But I tell her all the time, like, yeah, that's not a guarantee.

You know, that's partly his cam.

Yeah.

If you let it be a scam, right?

Does my eyes going to replace us?

So look, it's not a scam.

Let's just say it's overpriced.

Right?

Way overpriced.

Way overpriced.

For what they're offering you.

The learning pace is slow.

That you don't really need nowadays, right?

Yeah.

You have AI.

You have the internet.

You have all these people on social media making all this fucking money, bro.

AI you have the internet you have all these people on social media making all this fucking money, bro

They don't teach you any of that shit college. You know, they teach you skills that you don't really need in the workplace anymore, bro

So, you know the education games definitely changed and I think that's why there's so many people online selling education

Right you can learn how to do this or do that for five ten thousand fifteen thousand dollars and you can use that skill set

Right away the trades kind of changed, you know

I remember back in the day they had like to briar

Or they had different their universities. You can go on in a trade and cost you ten fifteen thousand and you start working

Well, you know the internet is kind of like that now. Yeah, now trade jobs are back actually. Yeah, because AI is replacing a lot of digital jobs

My mom's dating a lawyer. He said he doesn't need a paralegal anymore

He doesn't need one because he could just use AI 100% bro. We have a business and I was on a call on the way up here actually and

We're having problems with this landlord, right? Yeah, it's like, you know older you invested in a property

This property we lease so this business I have we release a property

It's cannabis business of dispensary out in the northern San Diego in North County and there's a lawyer

He's one like a hundred million litigation and we just happen to be leasing from so he's super hard to deal with right and

He's made our life very difficult to get you know just different things in carav and my partner

He placed the lease into the AI software today and he came up with all these ways to get out of the lease

Wow, yeah, we have two attorneys, right? We have two attorneys

We regularly deal with one of them is super accomplished in the East Coast

He works for the Ritz Carlton

He didn't even see this shit in the lease

Exactly, bro, so AI is like on a whole level one of my guests just went up against six of the top attorneys in the country

His name's Billy Carson and oh no Billy. Oh, you know Billy's pretty cool. Yeah, shallots of Billy

He's been on like four times, but he said he got everything he wanted all with AI bro

He went up and represented himself I guess six. Why can I see Billy doing that?

He's that guy right there. He's locked up. He's like I'm a represent myself judge like what Billy Carson's him

Yeah, but what I'm saying is that's the future, bro

Yeah, like AI will be better than lawyers. It'll be better than surgeons

There's gonna be surgeries that you get in the future with AI like micro robots. Yeah, 100% bro

It's it's common, man, and that's why as a podcaster. I'm staying sharp

We're gonna be next to

On the chopper block, bro, because like personal brand. I feel like we'll withstand AI. I feel like that's an entrepreneurship, right?

like AI's

Cool, AI's you know it, but

Like an entrepreneurship. There's a lot of nuts and bolts. Yeah, that you have to do yourself

And as long as the AI is an inside of this super fluid robot that can move around our three-day space

It's gonna be kind of hard for for AI to get into the entrepreneurial world. I agree

It could be a tool for entrepreneurs, right? But creating creating things, you know, having these these ideas being able to live in this 3D space and then seeing these holes

It takes a whole new level of like sensitivity, bro. No, I agree because entrepreneurship it dude

It's a very spiritual journey. I don't know if that's teachable to an AI. I don't think so like you like question your life going down this path

Yeah, no 100%

Yeah, I've had moments at night when I'm like what the fuck am I doing? Why am I doing this? Yeah 100% man

And it's just you know, it's it's such a a journey. It's such an emotional thing

It's it's you know, so so so hard. It's so hard to do

You're you're working things yourself at the beginning right when you're building business. You're doing everything

I mean AI can't you know set up a fucking camera AI can't set up a fucking table yet, right?

AI can't like get on and do its own marketing yet

It can't do all these things together, bro

And that's why I think entrepreneurship is gonna be like one of the last things ago. I agree 100%

Yeah, hold on strong man. Yeah, it's a tough lifestyle though

Like what what do you when people ask you if they should become entrepreneurs?

What do you usually say because I actually am very real with them? Yeah, I tell them that it's a very very hard thing, bro

You know, I tell them, you know, they're ready to fucking struggle for five to ten years then, you know

Go ahead and go, but I you know, just like you I'm very real with them

Yeah, cuz it get similar it gets glamorized on social media. Yeah, I guess it gets glam super glamor like we're like celebrities now

100% right? Yeah, no

Yeah, which part I don't like on see cuz it's false reality. Yeah, it is false

I made like nothing the first five years like maybe 50k here. I think I paid myself three years in 50k

I should I think I lost my first year. Yeah, I'm saying I mean nothing the first three years nothing

18 hours a day, you know what I mean? Yeah, so are you going to do that right and you question yourself and you cry and the people around you

Question I lost all my friends. I got no girls

Yeah, when the tribe turns around and tells you I told you so yeah, that's what can we go on at first for sure

But yeah, my physical health was shit cuz I sacrificed everything. Yeah, you know talk about sacrifice earlier

Yeah, I gave it all up

Sometimes I wonder if it was worth it was it? I

Think it was but I would say for most people probably not dude

I feel like as an entrepreneur you have to have very high tolerance for for pain

For risk and for pain. Yeah, right cuz I hurt so much at the beginning

Bro, and if you can't handle that that pain, then you're not gonna withstand the time it takes. Yeah, right?

Yeah, I lost my best friend dude like my prom day

This I thought I'd be with this girl for life like in a friendship type of way. I know I like a soulmate type of way

Believe it, man, bro. It's fucked up everything. Yeah, I know. I believe it, bro. It's it's a fallen journey

It's a painful journey. So yeah, I definitely tell people that bro like if you want to be an entrepreneur

You're ready for pain man. You're ready for long days, you know get get ready to be broke for a long time

But with entrepreneurship what you know a lot of people don't understand especially

When they quit right a lot of entrepreneurs quit before the the reward comes before the the fruit is is given and

They don't see like the invisible energy that's being built up when you're an entrepreneur right

There's like this invisible energy that you're building up and you're building up this ball and little by little

It's getting bigger right and it doesn't transcend to our 3d space and become money until like way later

Yeah, it's like printing a seed exactly

It's like planning to see that you can't see really right you can't see it

Yep, and you can't see the tree growing then all of a sudden it's like boom your fruit and you're like oh shit

Right right when you're ready to give up the fruit starts coming out

You're so right though because my first business I sold jerseys. I don't know if you knew that but I didn't yeah

I made custom jerseys. Oh cool, and I made so many relationships 10 years ago in that business

Yeah, and I'm still using those today. So it's all like an accumulation. Yes, but so many with so many twists and turns

100% man, but as long as you do really good business

You know people don't forget and you can call on those relationships in the future

Yeah, that's how I was able to get gas on the show and then all of a sudden

It's like the people start coming across you right like all of a sudden the universe just starts feeding you

Yeah, right you start doing good you start doing good and the universe just starts feeding you like all right cool

Man, you're doing good here. You go do something with it do something with it do something with it right and every single time

There's also like you know, there's there's like little pulls on you for you to not make the right choice right to not be

Honorable to not have that integrity, bro, but as long as you can keep those qualities up, bro

You keep getting fed bro for sure. Yeah, it's not it's not an easy journey

It's not for everyone, but it's if I could do it all over again. I do it again. Same, same

Why do you think most people are broke today?

2026 most people are fucking broke because they're fucking weak, bro

Like straight up, bro, like I'm just gonna be straight up, but you're probably gonna show like mentally their weak

They're just like spiritually weak. Like their spirit is fucking weak, bro

They're spirit is weak and they don't want to feed it, right? They don't want to they don't want to be responsible for it

And their spirit is just fucking weak, bro. They don't want to do anything to feed that shit

You know, there's so much out there that you can feed it with right like you can grab the Bible and feed it

You can you can grab a fucking motivational video and feed it

There's there's so many books out there you can feed yourself with but people just don't want to take that

Responsibility, right? They want to point out the fucking government. They want to point out Elon Musk or the millionaires or the billionaires

And they don't want to be responsible for themselves, man. I'm gonna straight the fuck up right now

I did 96% of people finance their black Friday purchases in America is not fucking crazy

That's crazy how the money to afford gifts for Christmas. That's sad man for holidays. Yeah, but they're still out there buying shit

Yeah, they're still buying because they don't mind being in debt. Yeah, that was never me

Not me either, man. I don't know. Well, that's that's the difference between you know slaves and people who want to get out of that

Bro, yeah, we want to break the chains off, bro

So people like you and I we broke the chains bro. We broke the chains, you know

We're no longer controlled by the slave faster. We we're our own slave, right now

We're doing things for ourselves, bro, and to me, that's what we're being a boss is all about bro, you know

People think when I say man, you got to be a boss that means you have to own your own company like no at the end of the day

Just have to be able to motivate yourself man feed yourself spiritually, bro

Like don't fucking look for someone else to do it for you, bro

Yeah, don't go to church and look for that motherfucker to feed you like feed yourself, bro

God is everywhere, bro

You know God is everywhere feed yourself look for it continuously try to try to learn from it learn from the game learn from life

Universe whatever you call it bro, and you're gonna see it. You know, you're gonna learn you're gonna constantly evolve

You're gonna become a better version of yourself. Yeah, you've been a believer in God for a while

I've been in a believer in something bigger than I for a while, bro

So I wouldn't say it's like, you know, the common thread of God right the one they they tell us about at church

I think God, bro can never be defined by human being

Right, like God cannot be defined by human being and if it can that's probably not the real God

That's just a humanized God that we've created. Yeah, yeah, we're humans. We're how many humans is there on earth?

What 9 billion are some crazy? All right cool, and that's they're on earth right and how many planets is there in our galaxy?

Probably millions how many galaxies is in our universe? Yeah, it goes exactly for for us to say that we can

understand or know God like I

Mean log maybe we can build some sort of relationship with trying to understand it, but that's about it, bro

Yeah, that's about it. We have to be humbled in who we are and what we know, bro

We'll know on judgment to exactly

Exactly, bro. You've had a couple near Delta experiences, right? I have had had to

Really really shapes you. Yeah, really shapes it. It really kind of gives you an experience afterwards right shifts your perspective

Yeah, no, I just had one like three months ago, and I was like wow

Dude, I don't know like I just got this sharp pain like I couldn't move I was shaking

Something like health related. I got like a MRI blood work after I think it was just like something I ate

Yeah, but it was bad. I was literally like sending goodbye messages

Over text people was crazy, man. Is every time I've had one I'm like I'm ready really wow total opposite from it

I was like fuck my girl's gonna be alone like I don't I feel like I'm left or enough

Yeah, I feel like my faith, bro

And you know, whatever it is that's that's kind of doing everything here, bro

It's so big that I just you know, I stopped trying to take control of it. I've just accepted pretty young and I've accepted that this

Living entity or living thing or living organism whatever it is

It's the earth the universe God. Whatever you want to call it is gonna kind of guide everyone in their own way to evolve and grow

Bro, so if I'm not around at the end of the day like my child's gonna be okay, bro

Yeah, it's gonna be my my children are gonna be on their own journey brought into the day. You think they'll be good without you

I think they'll be okay without me, bro. Wow. They got me inside of them, bro

That's deep bro. It's it's real, bro. You're at peace with that. I'm at peace with death, bro

I'm at peace with life. I'm at peace with death, bro

Was that a recent thing or always I think that

I think I got to a certain age, bro. I got to a certain age right in my late 20s, bro where you know, I

I just started having a better relationship with with myself and with life in general

And I just I just accepted everything bro the good the bad pain the joy, right

The pleasures that come along with with anything right and the hard days that come along with stuff and you know

I guess people call it stoic. I don't know if it's stoic. They're not right Marcus to really is yeah, I guess you can call it stoic, bro

But I just see it as like an experience, right? We're all here to have an experience brother. Yeah, we're all here to have an experience and all that is

Part of the experience, right? So I just appreciate that I'm able to have this experience respect that's it, bro

When it's time to go it's it's time to go and have the next experience. I feel a lot

No, I really do the good and the bad I definitely agree with that. I think everything happens for a reason and I don't think it

I don't think it all stops you know, I don't think it all stop you don't think it's just not lights out

I wish it would be bro

I mean that would be a lot of mercy, right?

It was just like a light out. Yeah, it'd be easy because it wouldn't reward or punish you for the life you live

Yeah, it'd be like everyone has the same conclusion. Yeah, no, it'd be easy, bro

But I think there's whole evolution and this whole game that that we're playing while we're here, right?

Responsibility self growth becoming better than who you were having this relationship with something bigger than you

It's just going to transcend into the next level, bro

Look, I know it's my opinion

I've interviewed a lot of people that I've had near death experiences the most leading experts in this space

I do believe there is an afterlife based off of hundreds of people I've talked to about this the most world-renowned

Psychics and spiritual teachers. Yeah, so I don't believe it

I mean no one will know for sure. No, I know it. You think like I just know it, bro

In an afterlife or I just know it. Wow. I just know there's something next, bro

100% bro something you got an old soul you're wise. I don't know brother

But I just I just know it, bro. I just know it. I think there's something. Yeah, you know

Yeah, I truly think there's I think part of the trouble people have right is like they want to know what's next

Right, and if they don't know if they're not at peace with themselves like you know what's gonna fucking happen next week, bro

You don't know what's gonna happen next month next year, you know like

You have to be at peace with whatever happens as part of the fucking journey, bro

So whatever it is that's next is just part of the journey, bro

Like be happy you're experiencing it right be happy you're here be happy you're present and be here, bro

Yeah, don't be on the next step like be here. The present is important. It's something I've I used to live in the past when I was younger

Yeah, so you're a little depressed at times. Yeah, I always thought about the past depressed and terrible anxiety

I would say when you're thinking about the future. Yeah, yeah

Then I shifted towards that then when I was starting into entrepreneurship

I constantly thought about what the future and if I'm going to be able to hold this off

100% and now I would say I'm more present good, bro

Like when I'm on an interview. I'm only thinking about that interview, you know, bro

The the the future exists only in your brain and so does the past bro. Yeah, right?

So you're here right now, bro. Only the present moment is the one that's true. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I don't I used to really dwell on both

Yeah, it's a dangerous mind. Yeah, danger spot to be in 100 percent, bro. It's a very not peaceful spot

Not at all and it came back when Charlie Kirk got killed

Yeah, it kind of came back a little bit like living in the past, but I got it just did you know Charlie? Yeah

He's been on the show. I'm filming at his event next week. So that was just like holy shit

I that easily could have been me or like someone I'm close with. That was a tough dude man. I was a tough soul, man. Yeah

RIP yeah, that one mess you up at all. I'm sure Charlie's okay, bro

He he died doing what he believed in right he he died like he died on the cross, bro

He died on the cross, bro. He he died doing what he believes in bro to me. That's that's an honor, bro

Mm-hmm. Like to me. It's a fucking honor. Yeah, he was doing what he loved. Yeah, can't deny that to me

It's an honor, bro. It's an honor to die doing what you love and giving your life up for something you you believe in bro

there's a very

Very honorable thing, bro that that happens when when you do that kind of stuff be it here in the next life

You know, that's that's such a great example for

For you know, everyone that comes behind him, bro or for other people that need to find their purpose or fight for their purpose

Yeah, it teaches me not to take life for granted because as we get older

We know pretty much every year like someone we're close with or friends with is dying like that's just a reality of it

You know, I look at my mom and I'm like all right. I'm seeing grace on my mom. I'm 18 Christmas

No, I have left, you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to take advantage of every single one brother same

Yeah, yeah, it's sad, but that's just what it is and I don't know if being numb to death is the right word

But you kind of get used to it didn't yeah, yeah, well, it's it's the only sure thing brother

Yeah, all the time. That's it bro taxes aren't even so sure, bro

Trunks get some people don't pay taxes some people you know do what they do, but yeah brother like the only sure thing is death

Bro, so if we're here to have this experience, bro, and the only sure thing is death bro like

That's why I don't hold resentment

I'm gonna be fearful of that bro. No, I don't I don't do that anymore. I used to yeah, it up me

But I don't do it anymore. I encourage you to do the same

You're listening. Yeah, I know if you're listening

Don't do that. Don't do that. Live what you're living right now make the most of life, you know chase your fucking dreams

You know do what you want to do because life is short, man

This right is short and at the end of it. I asked my grandpa actually on his deathbed, bro

I asked them

Gramps of everything you did. He did a lot of fucked up shit, you know like or at least some people would call it fucked up

What are you regret doing? Do you regret doing anything and he looked at me? He's in his deathbed probably seven days before he died and looked at me

He's like

The only thing I regret are the things I didn't do. Whoa

That's deep

That's super deep. I love that though

Because I hear similar stories from people dying. Yeah, they're like I wish I did that job or I wish I had dated that person

Yeah, or asked that person out

Rekindled a friendship there. Yeah, as a tape. I swing for the fence and it's constantly, you know

Try to progress and do things you haven't done take those fucking risk, bro

Take those risk learn those skills like do everything you want to do because this shit is short, bro

Mm-hmm. This should a short, bro. You never know. This should a short. You never know

Where'd your anger come from you mentioned as a kid you had anger with it

So my anger and my resentment brother

At first I thought I was because my dad left, right

But then I grew up and I met my mother who she truly was, right?

And I met my father from one adult to another and I I think it's something kind of embedded deep down within us, bro

But for sure, you know at a at a point I was angry at

At the world. I was angry at and I guess in that time when God was more simple for me

I could say I was angry at God. Mm-hmm, right? I was angry at my father. I

Bro, like I constantly went to bed hungry, bro. Damn hungry, bro

Physically hungry hungry. Yeah, like hungry like I'm almost on public assistance for a while

Like my dad was a good provider while he was there. He had a crazy breakup. He wasn't there

Mom had to start working. She went on welfare still wasn't enough, bro

So we would go to bed hungry, bro

I remember her going to bed hungry and giving us some of her food, bro

So that me and my brother can eat a little bit more because we're growing boys, bro

But it was just it wasn't enough, bro

So that's part of where my anger came from, bro

Do you were angry at the world? I was angry at the world, bro

I was angry at the world and I was constantly taking it out on the world. Wow. Yeah. I was doing that

So I was about high school, bro

And then how did you re-channel that into something more positive? Well

What's funny is is I found cannabis, brother. Yeah, yeah

I found cannabis at 18 years of age and that's actually the industry. I'm your first million in bro

Okay, yeah, in the cannabis industry

I found cannabis at 18 years of age, brother and it really helped me relax

It helped me sleep better and it helped me kind of see myself and how angry I was

So and seeing myself right giving me this third perspective to see myself

I was able to see how it was affecting my relationship with people

Like I was a lot to be around, bro

You know, I was always had to chip on my shoulder, but I was also really angry, right?

I had this really strong personality and you start adding anger to that, bro

So you started to become a danger, right? And people around you kind of see that and they're like, hey, man

Let's stay away from this guy because he's dangerous, right?

So I started seeing that and you know with cannabis

I started also noticing that something I had to change, bro

So a little by little I started chipping away at it, brother

Cannabis I have a love hate with yeah, a lot of people do yeah

I used to love it smoked every day. It was a huge stoner in high school college and then I had like a weird panic attack on it

So now every time I get high I get so paranoid. It's so nuts. Yeah, like complete opposite to you where it relaxes you

Yeah, it's very fascinating to me how cannabis can affect people differently. Yes

For me, I can't super paranoid. It's such a complex plant, bro

It's actually the most evolved plant on planet earth

It's been evolving with humans because we've been kind of tinkering with it, right?

And humans have been using it for a long time and have been growing it for a long time

So it's evolved a lot, bro

And there's so many different aspects to the cannabis plant. You have so many different hybrid variations

Everywhere and they all have different effects

So it's it's definitely a long journey for people to figure out how cannabis can can help them

And it's kind of an ongoing journey like being myself right now, brother

I just use cannabis gummies to sleep

And I only use fuck me up. I only use them to sleep. Oh, like literally, bro

Get to bed. I grab my gummy. I eat it and I'm able to go to sleep. Is it mainly CBD in it? CBN. Oh CBN

CBN. Yeah, so THC endica full spectrum usually a rosin gummy

I'm used with CBN and I'm able to go to sleep row and wake up in a good mood. Yeah CBN is good for sleep 100% bro

Otherwise, I'm the kind of person that's like tossing and turning to about sunlight, bro

The morning. Yes, your brain racing your mind. All my best ideas come at dark. Yeah, that used to be me too

Yeah, so all my best ideas come when the world just kind of shuts off

That's when I really start thinking right and you start getting this this stream of consciousness

And you just kind of want to start writing everything down and you want to start playing with it

So you know with cannabis, I was able to turn that stream of consciousness down at night time

And kind of go to sleep with the rest of the world and wake up in the morning and participate with everyone else, right?

That's the that makes sense. Yeah, I think

Has would you say the industry's piece because I know there's a transition to mushrooms now and other stuff the cannabis industry

I wouldn't say it's peaked everywhere. I would say it's evolving

Right now there's a lot of states where where the industry has kind of plateaued maybe. Yeah, right as far as like revenue or as far as like you know

Stores that can be built consumers that can be that can be brought into the stores

But there's so many different states that haven't

Legalized yet, right? It states like Texas big states with a lot of money. You think Texas will yeah

I'm sure Texas will bro everywhere. I'll be nuts because they're like a strictest against it

It will bro the Bible belt of California. That's where I grew up in like I grew up in an environment where people like

Still go to church on Sundays and you know everyone closes their stores early on Sundays

And you know that place is where I have one of my cannabis stores. Oh, wow. Yeah, so

Basically everywhere in the country bro. It's gonna be legalized pretty soon

I think if Trump doesn't do it, which I think he might brother you should do it on his way out

I think he's pretty young pretty hip-to-game, right? He's in the crypto game

He he understands that the Republican party kind of needs the the young voters to get behind it

And he's kind of been making moves to make that happen right to people like you to kind of think like hey

Must something I can get behind. Yeah, so I think that Trump is definitely gonna legalize before his way out

I think that he has to and the reason why is because if he doesn't who's coming behind him

Gavin Newsome who's like is he against it or bro? He's the person who pushed cannabis forward in California. Oh, so he's for it

Oh, yeah, so you think he's gonna leave that play for Newsome like I don't think so. Yeah, he doesn't like Newsome

Trump is smart bro. I think that they're gonna legalize cannabis

If not this year this following year and I think before the end of the year, it's gonna be legal

If you if you follow stocks or not, yeah, okay, cool. So you've been seeing like the stocks kind of going up and going down

They've been having these peaks bro. They've been having these peaks and I can kind of see stock and the way it's been

They're moving up and down where you know, there's different conversations going on behind curtains

And a lot of these conversations are moving in a positive direction. That's good

Yeah, I mean freedom is always good, bro

Freedom to do what you want as a human being is always always good, bro

Yeah, it was very demonized cannabis in Jersey where I grew up. Yeah, like parents hate at their kids smoking it

But I think the narrative's changing and now Jersey is completely now it's legal. Yeah, my boy owns a dispensary in

Franklin, I think in New Jersey. Yeah, my buddy's opening one in Jersey as well. Yeah, she's doing 500k a month

Crazy a month that that's normal in the cannabis industry. Yeah, that's not in the mark

I don't know about the margins, but yeah, it sounds like it. They're high

The margins are good, bro

Usually, you know, you buy a product for two dollars. You sell it for buy books. Wow, maybe six bucks if you're in the right area

So a gram you could get for two dollars. Yeah, but let's just say it's a gram right like if you're buying a gram for two

You're starting for six. I used to bet 20 and people are lined up out the door, bro

Yeah, so it's been a great thing, bro cannabis. It's available for everyone nowadays, right? If you use it cool

It's available for you

Um, when you legalize cannabis you keep it away from young people as well, right? You regulate the plant

You know, I'm not a big fan of the government collecting taxes from it because they're so heavily taxed like literally 30% of

They take 30% cannabis is about 30%

That's like the money, but the good thing is bro is that because the

The business has evolved and it's grown bro even though it's heavily taxed

It's still a lot more affordable than it used to be

So in the black market was around you said 20 dollars a gram. That was normal. Yeah, Jersey

Yeah, right now you're able to walk into a cannabis dispensary bro and buy a a gram with taxes and everything out the door like

That's crazy. Yeah, and you're able to pick from like 20 different strengths, right?

And you're able to see the laboratory testing, bro

So it works out so well for for people now, bro

Yeah, yeah, selling weed was my first business

Yeah, yeah, that's how I got buying on college. It was my first business

Oh, yeah, a lot of successful entrepreneurs start off in the black market. Yeah for sure this thought

100% bro teaches you a lot of skills. What college you go to rockers. Okay. Yeah, so Jersey was a good market because like

East Coast got all their stuff from the west coast

So you can mark it up. Yeah, if you had a good plug on the west coast

East Coast still gets their stuff in the west coast

Yeah, even though a lot of states grow nowadays. I know that um

Michigan is a state that's growing a lot of

All reals nowadays. Yeah, so like a lot of the east coast is flooded with with weed from Michigan

Because the the rules aren't as stringent as California

So a lot of growers from California

They left right yeah, because it's easier for them to grow out there right and they're already in the east coast

So it definitely moves from Michigan to the rest of the east coast. Yeah, dude

I've seen some of these grows and it's complex

Super good. You could easily fuck it up. I get it. I actually have a lot of respect for growers that us

It's very comfortable. It's not easy bro. It takes a science wisdom to get it done

And they really really love what they do. Yeah, because there's a lot of factors

Bro and a lot of times these these growers are people like me where they use cannabis and it kind of saved them

Right, so they they have like this relationship with cannabis where they want to put it in the hands of people

And they want to make it better, right?

So they have a very selfless attitude towards what they're doing and you know as we talked earlier that helps people evolve

Yeah, it helps things evolve, right? Yeah, yeah, like I said love hate. I don't think I'll ever eat an edible again

Bro, bro, bro. No, I almost died. You know what with adibles. It's definitely about dosing right bro

What is we 20 mg's which I did 20 mg bro? I don't even eat 20 mg's bro

I did not fears what happened. I was in Vegas. I was young and dumb. I was like 21. I ate 10 mg's the first day

I got there. I was fine. I went to the buffet like 20 plates. It was the best night of my life

So the next day, I'm like let me double that like okay

So let's pull it back. You said 10 mg's you had the best night of your life. Best night ever

Off 10 mg's that was like my tolerance at the time

But I got cocky my ego got in the way

And I was like let me eat double that because I just had the best night of my life. Let's see what happens

I'm gonna have double the pleasure now worst night of my life

I called my girl crying like babe. I'm about to die

I was out of Chris angel magic show and I didn't that made it worse for sure

But I'm watching that motherfucker walk in the air. You're like holy shit. What the fuck? I didn't even make it to my seat

I literally walked in there saw crows flying in the air his demonic eyes looking straight at me and I crawled to my hotel room

Like it was fucking awful. Yeah, I bet bro 100% yeah, so I mean in what you're telling me bro 10 milligrams worked for you

10 was perfect. Yeah, so I mean you can ease it back into it. I like I could probably find nine yeah five milligrams

Right setting right instead of having a drink or whatever like you have five milligrams

You have dinner with your girlfriend or you spend some time with family bro and it starts to feel so blissful bro

One of one of my favorite things to do bro

And I'm gonna go ahead and spit it out is to eat about five milligrams of cannabis bro and to hang around my two-year-old

Hmm, I feel like the cannabis it just like opens up all my senses

Then all of a sudden the communication between me and my two-year-old the barriers they just fall a bro

Wow, and I'm just so present. It's like I can feel what she's telling me to laugh at me

It's weird and I feel like she can understand what I'm telling her as well, bro

And it stops being language a lot of times, and it's just like movement and eye-to-eye communication, you know, that's cool

It is cool. They're actually doing studies on like the new generation of kids and how a lot of them have these telepathy abilities

Have you seen the telepathy tapes? No, I have it. Yeah, bro. It's a new phenomenon. Oh, it's with autistic kids

Yeah, actually I've read about it briefly bro. Tell me about it. Yeah, well a lot of kids and your kids in Cali, right?

So one out of 20 kids in Cali that are being born or now have diagnosed autism. That's just diagnosed so it could be even higher

Um, so that's just a thing right now and they have these telepathy abilities the brain is changing bro

I've had conversations about autism with with a few people and mom she actually works in a special ad bro

And you know, they've asked me when I think about autism

And they asked me if I think it's a current crisis, right? Like people are calling it a crisis

I don't think it's necessarily a crisis, bro. I think it's just an evolution. I agree

I have it and um it wasn't as normal in our generation like I was like probably one out of a hundred or whatever

But now it's yeah, like you said one out of 20 and I don't think it's a bad thing. Oh, bro. Look at you

I think it's a super powerful super successful. Yeah, you made your first million at what age 23

That's what I'm saying, right? But when we were growing up, they really demonized it. Yeah, they were like

Made fun of something strong with them. They put them in special ed classes if they had it too much

I was able to mask mine um to fit in but

Now it's like dude if you have autism you can fucking use that yeah

It's a skill bro. It's a skill set bro. You having autism. What do you think?

Or how do you think your brain work differently than

quote-unquote normal kids?

I just never felt like I fit in and never wanted to do the normal 95 routes. I also have ADHD

So it's that could have played a role too. ADHD is a funny thing too, right? Yeah, ADHD

I don't a lot of successful people, bro. They don't have too much patience for bullshit. I don't right

So I don't know if it's ADHD all the time or if it's just like not too much patience. Yeah, I can't you small pop

I can't do bullshit conversations. So think of it if you have a teacher up there

This teacher is is teaching but they don't want to teach and they're teaching you some bullshit as shit

Like is it really ADHD? Yeah, I'm sure you didn't have the same

That this I'm sure you didn't have the same experience with every teacher, right?

Like there was some teachers that just like connected with you right exactly, bro

So I don't think ADHD is also what they made it out to be you know

They made it out to be this bad thing this kid is is something's wrong with him

It's like no someone's give him some fucking pills, right? In elementary school. They tried doing that

I just think it was another evolution, bro. Yeah, I think it was another evolution where people just stop paying attention

The shit didn't matter bro, which are the people that didn't yeah, autism's been really

Beneficial for me good, you know, I'm able to just become good at whatever I set my mind to I feel like

Yeah, my my first business partner that I'm in my first milling with we ended up finding out two years

Ember like he was autistic really yeah, so he was like a high-functioning

Yeah, high-functioning autistic and he only found out then because he was seeing a therapist because of a relationship with him and his daughter

And the therapist diagnosed him, bro

So that's one thing I will say I'm deficient in is um relationships

Especially like dating dynamics. I don't have the

I don't know if empathy is the right word, but um, I don't know if that's related to all patients the patients maybe like

Patience yeah that too

I would see it in him emotional connection

You know what I mean? Do you see that in him? Yeah, yeah, I would definitely see that, bro

And people take that as an insult when I don't feel that connection

But I just I don't know my brain doesn't operate though. Do you have any kids?

I'm out to be soon hopefully

Just got married a couple months ago. We're kind of if you think of it

I mean, that's the whole purpose of dating right like that's the whole purpose, bro

Is to procreate right? So you're still procreating. Yeah, right autism or not. You're still procreating. So did he?

So like is it really something that's holding people back like I really think so broad just thinks an evolution of things

Yeah, I think you should own it if you have it don't feel ashamed like I my dad got diagnosed at 60

Yeah, he didn't know his whole life

60 but then when that came through everything made sense to everything

Because he did not know social cues and it would get us in trouble sometimes

He didn't know he didn't know when to shut up and he was not calling on top of us

So it's just magnified the whole thing

I actually just took a childhood trauma test and I scored like one of the highest scores

Oh, wow, which is crazy because I grew up in like a rich house neighborhood

But I think like each family has their own trauma to the trauma

100% bro, we're all just having different experiences bro, you know

Traumas and stop in in homes that have money and don't have money

Yeah, trauma is just a part of life. Well, it's a part of this agreement

Yeah, mine wasn't like a financial one like you dealt with like we had money, but it was more like

I didn't get the attention. I wanted I guess and like a

Mental thing and it affects you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, this was awesome. I think

This was I didn't expect it to go this way

I thought we'd talk business, but that was really cool for sure

Where could people work with you said to DM you something? Yeah, for sure, man

So me and my boy Mike right now we're starting this new play bro this new play, which is basically the damn play, right?

And well, we've identified as a whole in the market bro. There's a lack of people

Getting at these DMs that are left and a lot of people's inboxes Instagram being one of them, right?

You for sure right now have how many in your inbox that are sitting there unanswered bro

Hundreds yeah, 100 right so what I want to do and what we're doing right now

We're building up a team bro. We're building up a team of people that want to learn the skills

And want to learn how to basically become a DM center a DM closer and be able to capitalize on these DMs that are just sitting bro

We have a DM center on our team bro that right now is making like 20,000 a month bro

20,000 a month bro, and there's people graduating from college who can't find a job Sean

Right, so imagine bro getting set up with the job where you have the possibility of making 20,000 hours a month

I mean if you suck at it, you'll probably make $5,000 a month bro

It's it's such a void right now that we need to fill so I'm setting that up right now, bro

Right now I'm looking for about 15 people who want to get trained want to learn the skill set want to capitalize on it, bro

As a matter of fact, bro for the first

10 people that that I'm able to recruit and get in bro right now

I think I have a couple but I think I have about eight spots left bro is

I'm gonna guarantee their placement afterwards, bro

I'm gonna guarantee their placement for them afterwards, bro

And they're gonna be able to you know learn a new skill that's gonna be didn't need a now and later

Especially if you have an entrepreneurial mind right if you're an entrepreneur who or one day

You're gonna be kind of popping on Instagram or social media. You need to skill set if you want to show people how to do it for you, bro

So I'm willing to teach people how we do it how we help people like Mike how we can help people just like you, bro

Maximize and capitalize on these DMs that are just sitting in the inboxes, bro

Let's get it. So wait people communicate, bro

People not everyone wants to talk on the phone one more right like you just want to relatable

Yeah, you just want to text people, bro people want to communicate by text. I know kids nowadays like they don't really talk anymore

They take pictures of things and they fucking send it or they text and then they send it

They don't talk on the phone anymore, bro

So, you know, it's a skill set that's that's needed

It's a skill set that that I want to build a strong team with, bro

And basically I want to teach people how to be successful not to make good money in this field, bro

Let's go message him guy. I know a lot of you guys DM me and ask for work start here

DM me, bro

So my my my Instagram handle is at digital money angel and you can find me on Instagram

Slide into my DMs, you know, DM me the word

Elite DM me the word elite and I will make sure that you learn the skills to pay the bills, baby

Let's go. DM guys peace. Peace. I hope you guys are enjoying the show

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