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Joe Dell is joining us right now with a big smile coming off that awesome weekend.
Joe, we really appreciate the time off of the historic weekend.
How are you doing, and how much is your phone blowing up with all kinds of fun and praise
over the last 48 hours?
Of course, all you guys can hear me, right?
Yep, we got you guys on good.
Okay.
Now, it's been crazy.
It just, baseball is weird.
You just never know when different opportunities are going to present themselves.
I was, for those three players, I was in a shift where I was comfortable and covering
my ground and KP, you know about this, but there's just certain spots in the field where
you get to where you just know you're going to make plays and for those three balls that
I caught, I was, I was right there and so I was just pretty special.
I think it's kind of a full circle moment when obviously, you know, Tori talking about
kind of my evolution through finding out how to be a better defender and working on it
and trying to, you know, add it to my game as something that, you know, I could put towards
the team and help the team to be better and, um, yeah, like you said, my phone's been
going off for pretty constantly nonstop for a couple of days now.
So it's been crazy, crazy moment.
Well, thanks for getting back to me.
I know how busy your phone was, but I reached out to you.
I told you I woke up one in the morning, let my dog out and my phone was blowing up too
and I'm like, it's very rare in this game.
You get an opportunity to rob one home run yet three opportunities in one game and you
made all three plays, but my question to you is, you, you hear what Tori had to say
about you, but I was also your teammate a couple of years ago and in order to be a lead
at this game, you have to have a lot of confidence in yourself at what point, not to see
you lost confidence, but at what point did you kind of just say, hey, I don't have all
the answers.
Let me, you know, take some of the advice that guys like Tori are giving me and then
bow quarter when he was there, you know, what changed for you?
Yeah, I think when we played together, that was kind of the start of me kind of asking
those types of questions and trying to figure out, hey, like, how do I approach this
a different way?
Really through the minor leagues, I never really had any issues defensively, it was kind
of like, I made the plays when I made, when I made them, but obviously you get to the
big leagues, the balls are hit a little bit harder, you know, the optics are completely
different.
So, you know, I kind of had to, over time, kind of swallow my pride and say, hey, like,
this is something that I don't have the answers for, you know, I was used to kind of knowing
those answers, but, you know, when you get up here, it's different, you know, you got
to focus in a different way and look, and, you know, and look at things through a different
lens.
And so just using the resources of the people around me and finding a routine that works
for me has really just been the biggest change.
One of the things before, but I got to say this, I was your teammate before KP was your
teammate.
So KP don't try to like take all the credit for this young man who's had a beard since
you were like seven, it seems like all the pictures and so on, 12, okay.
So anyway, you talk about, you talk about like, I kind of just knew what I needed to do
in AAA.
We talked about before you came on, how the angels, somebody does well in the minor leagues,
call them up to the big leagues, call them up to the big leagues, do you feel like you
would have maybe learned some of these things, had you spend a little more time, spent
a little bit more time in the minor leagues where you were doing so well, or was it something
that you needed to see how dudes hit the ball harder in the big leagues?
You needed to see these different things and make these adjustments in the big leagues.
Yeah, I mean, great point.
I definitely think I needed to get punched in the jaw a little bit.
I think that's part of it.
I think that I've always been somebody that I thrive often, they adversity and trying
to come back and find a way to be better and recognize what didn't go well and try
to find the answers.
I think throughout the process of the minor leagues to AAA, I kind of had it figured
out, to an extent where I don't want to say boring.
That's not really the right word.
This is still professional baseball and competitive at that, but it wasn't the big leagues.
The big leagues requires you to be at a certain focus every day that is different and it requires
you to learn something.
You might have everything figured out in practice and in the game, it doesn't show up.
I definitely think that I benefited from not having it figured out and then being able
to come in and try to put the pieces together.
In the moment, you're like, man, I don't want to go through this, but then on the other
side, you're like, hey, this is what I needed.
I definitely would say that.
I think it's through all three of those plays because it felt like it got more difficult
and then arguably one of the best catches I've ever seen.
When you're standing in the bleachers, holding the glove up, and I know that photo has
been iconic.
I think someone told me four million views already.
At some point, you're like, holy shit, I just made this play.
It was pretty crazy.
The first one that was hit, it was a lot like a play that I made a year ago where I was
kind of at the yellow line.
Obviously we have unright field, the elevated fence with the line and you try to block everything
above it because anything over that's a home run.
I got back there pretty good.
I was on a deeper shift, so I was already closer towards the wall and then I jumped and
I was like, man, I just made that play, but it was a play that I've made before or close
to it.
Maybe a little higher up than the normal catches kind of at the wall there.
We were pretty fired up.
The fans were in it and then the next one was hit very similar and I'm like, I'm having
some sort of, it's just like a flashback and I like replaying this and so I go back to
the same spot that I caught the original ball and pretty much did the same jump and I was
in the same spot and I'm like, man, I just took two away.
Without the course of this game, this was the pitcher's goal.
I mean, NETO had the home run to start off the game for us, but it was pretty quiet
all the way through the game.
We were kind of just battling defense at that point, knowing that the starters were throwing
well and the bullpen guys were throwing well, so we get to that ninth inning, historically
over the past couple of games, Seattle has been pulling the ball.
They were pulling the ball.
The lefties were pulling everything, so we were kind of like, hey, let's just edge on
the side and getting closer towards the foul line and just playing a little deeper.
Because most of the time in those shifts, you play a little shallow, especially when you
have those runners in scoring position and stuff like that, you're trying to take away
cheat base heads, but we were playing back and I was on the corner and JP hit that ball
down the line and it had enough hang time.
I got to the wall on the corner, the little roundabout and I'm sitting there looking at
this and it's literally me and the foul pole.
So it's like I'm sitting here, I'm looking at the foul pole on the left side and I'm
seeing the ball and it's starting to tail back over and I look in the stands, me and this
guy made eye contact and then I look back up and I'm seeing this ball and I'm like, man,
I got a chance and I kind of hit like a little hip jump and fall over and they had my back.
Some guy apparently was beating the hell out of my shoulder and I don't even remember
it.
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One of those moments of just like blackout, but I landed the fall and so that's the
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I shot up and was holding the ball up and it was like I was a fan watching the game.
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All right, rank them, rank them as far as coolist, but also rank them as far as most
difficult.
Yes, I probably say the coolest is definitely the last one by far, especially being in
the ninth setting, you know, in a one run ball game like that.
I mean, going into the stands, you can't beat that.
You do that in the backyard as a kid, like that's like something you, you know, you
reenact.
So that's definitely the most difficult, the coolest.
The second catch was probably the easiest just because I had done the first one.
So I kind of like had like a gist of like where I was going to go and how I was going
to make the play.
The first one was probably the second hardest, but I probably say that that last one, man,
it was that was a blackout moment for sure.
What you're feeling, let's just take the last catch going in the stands or hitting a
walkoff on run to be honest with you and the ninth ending like that.
And we had been grinding all the all game long doing something on a defensive end like
that.
I'm taking that, I'm taking that like the opportunity to be able to be in a position
to do that versus, you know, obviously getting a pitch to hit.
I mean, the rarity of that in itself is, I mean, like how often are you going to get a ball
that you could catch like that to save a run, you know, in the ninth inning?
That's like, you can't draw it up any better than that.
Bigly gallfiners are always, you know, working on being able to feel the wall run, run to
the warning track in BP, getting your reps in.
Have you ever made a cool catch like this in BP that you're like, hey, that had been
sick if I had done that in a game?
Yeah, so I actually last year was the first year, well, I guess it was two years ago
the first year, I started really working on it because I, that was actually something
that I struggled with was getting to the wall.
I would probably get like a step or so from the wall and then kind of jump early or
misstep early.
So we really worked on getting me back and just trusting that, hey, like I'm going to
know when I get there and I have made a couple that are pretty cool, particularly in
the center field last year, I made a few during practice that were, that were pretty cool.
But yeah, I've worked on it, you know, it's been something that I've worked on and just
not all home runs, but just getting back to the wall to have a chance to, you know, make
a play and that's what happened, you know, since the game of inches and feet, you know,
you never know if something's going to sneak over, balls are hit a lot farther at times
than missed it to go a lot farther.
So just working on getting back and getting in space.
But I made some pretty cool ones doing that, doing that drill for sure.
How much do you think getting the opportunity to play center field last year kind of has
just really helped your confidence because in order to be an elite center fielder, you
kind of got to be the man out there, you got to be the alpha.
And I know firsthand when I moved to the corners, I had to be a little bit more submissive
to the center fielder.
You hesitate a little bit more, but when you go from center field to a corner, you kind
of have that alpha mindset and it seems like it's really kind of helped you with obviously
that some of these plays you made a couple nights ago.
Yeah, definitely, I mean, like spatial awareness, I think is the big one too that kind of comes
to mind because when you're in center field, there's more than the left that you're worried
about.
You know, I know when I'm in right field, you know, depending on where my shift is, I'm
only really worried about the part of the field that I have to cover that's nobody else
can get to.
Right?
When you're in center field, there's two areas that you have to worry about covering at
all points and obviously behind you because, you know, that's the bigger part of the field.
So yeah, I think for me, it just kind of opened my eyes to, you know, knowing my surroundings,
being more aware and when it comes to making plays like this, where you're by the wall,
you're close, you're in small, you know, areas to make plays, you don't have as much room,
you have less time to make a decision.
I think going back into right field after having some of that experience in center has
kind of allowed me to be more aware of where I am on the field and be able to do a better
job of getting off to that jump and trusting, you know, trusting your read and you're in
center field, you have to trust it, you know, and that's like one thing that I learned
through the middle of the year last year was just go, you know, just go, you'll figure
it out once you get there.
But really that, you know, special awareness and knowing where you are, this is huge.
Which of your teammates was the most just about the last catch?
Mike was fired up, man.
Mike was fired up.
I haven't seen him that fired at like, it was really cool for me to see because, you
know, he came up and told me that it was, that's one of the most remarkable things he's
ever seen.
And, you know, obviously him and Tori, they sat out and watched my post game on the field.
And for both of those guys as much baseball and as much success and accolades as they both
have been able to get to just the fact that they were in awe of what I did was just
extremely, extremely special and just to see the looks on everybody's face of just how
they were part of a baseball experience that they've never seen before was just really
cool.
And, man, it's, I don't know, it was one of those things where I was getting asked questions
after and I was like, I don't even know what to tell you, I mean, this was, this was
insane.
So, obviously, it's had never been done before and just like the hugs and people saying
that they appreciated that they could be a part of this was just pretty cool.
So.
Yeah, speaking of Mike, even as teammate for a while, there's probably the first time
you've seen him completely healthy.
Well, what's that been like?
Because I think that's the biggest regret in my career is one that I didn't get a chance
to play with them.
He was hurt that all year, but I also didn't get to see him healthy and perform like
we've all been accustomed to seeing him do.
It's going to be special, man, it changes the dynamic of the entire lineup because Mike's
one of those guys with how much power and how much ability he has to do damage at the
plate and really hit for any type of average or do whatever.
He is, you know, he has like 12 walks right now.
You know what I mean?
Like this guy, like if they're not throwing him strikes, he's taking the base, he's allowing
traffic, which was kind of a struggle for us last year was getting guys to kind of get
on base in those times when we needed it.
And then when he needs to, you know, they throw him his one or two pitches again, almost
like the very bond treatment and he smashes one in the gap or it's a two run homer and
it's like, that's just vintage Mike trout.
So just having him back in center field, feeling healthy, being in his element.
I mean, it's so big for us collectively at the unit because there's just so many things
that he can threat you with on the baseball field.
And it feels like for me that he just learned something new every day.
And it's just the type of special talent that he is.
And I mean, what else can you say?
It's Mike Trial.
So I mean, having him out there, running him out there in center.
I mean, it's pretty electric for us.
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All right, talking about health and throughout is, you know, the biggest thing, obviously
going to be a future hall of fame and all that stuff.
One, do you know how his hand is?
And two, does your body feel different?
In just these first like week and a half, two weeks of games playing right field compared
to center because that was the big talk that Mike wanted to go back to center after
playing right some last year.
Yeah, he obviously got banged up pretty good in the game yesterday, but I think he's
going to be okay.
I think I think a lot of this is precautionary.
He had like a little bit of a bruise going on, like on the hands.
It was weird how it missed the pad kind of.
It's like he had the pad on top, but the ball kind of hit like on the side, like under.
So he'll be fine though, we're hoping that he's going to be good the next day or so.
But yeah, I mean, having him back in center field, that's what we wanted.
We wanted him to feel like he wanted to run back out there.
If he wanted him to be comfortable, obviously for me, I was like, hey, I'm going to do whatever
I can.
You know, obviously I've been primarily a corner outfielder, but you know, if I needed
to go into center, if he wanted to play right, whatever that he wanted to do, we were all
behind it.
And obviously he said, hey, look, I'm ready.
You know, he's really put a ton of work in the off season on getting himself back right
and feeling strong and ready to go and ready to take on the monster of the season.
He knows how to do this.
And so when he said, hey, I'm ready, like I want to go back in center.
We're like, hell, yeah, let's go.
You know, and so having him back out there is pretty awesome, and he's fired up about
it.
Joe, did you see the Mariners hitting meeting the day after you meet those three catches?
Yeah, the game plans.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't hit it.
Don't hit it to joke.
Yeah, that's all that.
That's crazy.
That's all.
Obviously, you guys are rivals and stuff, and you guys are competing for the vision, but
to really just kind of respect the type of day you had, because I don't think we've
ever seen a better defensive performance, you know, in the heat of the moment, to kind
of just have fun with it.
You know, what a sign of respect for what you were able to do the night before.
Yeah, it was, that was pretty awesome.
At first, I thought one of our own guys wrote it, and so I was like, that's funny.
I'm going to go see that in the weight room or something like that, and then I looked
out and I saw it.
So it was, that's funny.
That's good stuff.
All right.
Did you see your defensive metric scores after that game?
Because everybody looks at the box scoring like, who three before, what's the score?
But when you route three homers, you expect your defensive runs saved to be through the
roof.
Correct?
Yeah.
I mean, you would expect so.
Actually, I didn't even peek it.
There was so much going on over the past like day, like it was like I was kind of just
like everywhere.
But no, give me the line.
What do we got?
Okay.
So your defensive run saved is plus four, which was awesome, but you're out above average.
You got dinged.
You robbed three home runs, and you got a, you got a bad out above average score.
Try to explain that to me as a now baseball fan, no longer playing in the metric era.
I don't know how to, I don't know how to break these down.
I'm going to have to ask for help.
I don't know.
Maybe because the ball you caught was out of the field of play.
So they dinged you because that was supposed to be a spectator's ball.
You're now selfish.
You're now considered selfish because you took it to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't.
I wasn't, I wasn't a fan in the stands.
And so that's why I'm talking to you about what you want.
I'm questioning, I'm questioning life with defensive metrics when I saw that.
Yeah.
Defensive run saves certainly had it down.
So that's the staff cast outs above average fielding run value, right?
That's like the number they put on a field or overall with their defensive value.
And it was based off catch probabilities that were very high Joe.
So that would be a follow up question is, do you feel like the catch probabilities for
a few of those plays should have been, I think one or two of them were 90 plus percent.
And one of them was at least 80 plus percent.
And I'm just like, I'm sorry.
We're looking maybe at some ground to cover, but not the terrain and everything else.
I just think that it's missing the mark when it's evaluating.
Yeah.
There's been some plays where, you know, because I know the outfit or the obviously, you
know, you guys know KP knows, but sometimes when you don't make a play, you look at kind
of like what the percentage would be if you work to make the play.
And sometimes the, you know, the reports are shocking because you're like, Hey, like
I know that I did what I could to try to get to this ball and make this play.
And they're saying that I should have caught this by an 80% chance.
And it's like, Hey, like no way.
You know what I mean?
And so I think there's a little bit of kind of question marks around catch probability
in a way of, did we, did we watch what happened or were we looking at where this ball ended
up or were we good looking at how the ball was hit?
And what the field is, you know what I mean?
I don't really know the exact answers to that.
But sometimes when you, when you get wind late at night, an angel's stadium, it'll push
the ball, right?
That changes the catch probability, right?
Like maybe if this ball was hit during the daytime or during, outweigh out another field
or in another space, like maybe the catch probability would be more of that 80%, 90%.
But when you're playing again with different factors, the difficulty changes on some of
these plays.
And so how we take that into account, I don't know, but I do know as now, food or that's
for sure a fact.
So.
Yeah, it definitely was questioning some things for me.
And all you can do is catch a dumble.
So just go catch it.
Just go catch it.
That's it.
And it was awesome.
I mean, I haven't found anyone yet that has said they've seen three home run robberies
in one game in the major leagues.
So I don't think there's official record books for that, but I feel like you just hit it.
I don't think it's going to be easy to overcome with everything that needs to happen for
that to all line up.
So we really appreciate the time and join us right after that crazy weekend.
Thanks for joining us.
And good luck, Ma'am.
We'll catch up with you again soon.
Absolutely.
It was crazy.
I appreciate it.
Yes.
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