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Back in the fan. Me as a model scare thing here in a second. Social media reactions on X are brought to you by. Shive and Jillers Clevens from your jewelry store. They're all remembering the day that I guaranteed the classroom full of kids. That I uh that the Browns were going to beat the Raiders two years ago. Somebody wrote that it's their bio and sure as hell can Carmen once guaranteed a Browns win to a classroom full of kids that we lost. That's on client underscore Nick congratulations on all my success. I guess damn it. I think they're going to win I know I'm not going to guarantee it. I think they're going to win it's week one guys. It's a it's a crap shoot. Danny saw some Browns practice video recently. There's dare I say some zip on to Sean Watson's throws.
Uh has he? Has he the entire time been working his way up to now? Is he fully healthy and ready to roll? Are you saying he was saving zip? I'm just saying what I am seeing is some zip on these passes. He did that in the Buffalo game. We're not talking about Buffalo game. We're past that Kenny. You're living in the past. Which game are you talking about? That was the game that we said it kind of looked like he was treating like real football. Here we go. It's real football this week. All right. Just making sure hey you know what I'm making a argument that they could win. So I'm going to shut up by the way. Lime you just reminded me I totally forgot my was here. It's playing tonight. Yes. Yes he did make the trip. I also think that the Rams are making a tremendous mistake. Can you be trying to win every single game you're playing? Because it feels like they're just kind of like well. We're going to treat this as a fourth preseason game. Why are they showing up 28 hours before they're ready to kick off at 10 30 in the morning in Australia? Yes. This is incredible because not only has Mick Vey change the way that everybody looks at preseason now
and the way that people conduct their business in preparing teams for the season. Now is he going to do it in the regular season too? Like we're not really worried about this game. What I love about Sean Vey and I do mean this. I think some people hate him. I don't know why. If people hate him he has. It seems to be the somebody did a poll and he's one of the most unpopular coaches in the NFL. Wow. I don't know why. Maybe it's because we're in the NFC fan. It might just be because we in the media make such a big deal because he seems like a savant. He remembers every place of a crowd and all that. Yeah. They get tired of like trea it's not Travis Kelsey. It's that the news stories. I always have to keep bringing up when he buys a house or Farts in church or whatever. I have to keep talking about it. So because you have to keep doing it in a noisem. That's why people get mad at us for having to talk about bounce quarterbacks. Incessantly. But what he does, which Sean McVey does is gets somehow gets the leadership that we all crave we had in our football teams.
And he's able to do it. And I don't know if any other team can. They don't play in the preseason and you know it's a copycat league. So they didn't play in the preseason and they're successful. We're not going to play our starters in the preseason. All these guys are going to do is get hurt and get us fired. We're not going to play these guys in the preseason. And then what do we hear at the end of the year? Well, that preseason where it was camp cupcake. They set the tone. And that's not just in Cleveland. That's everywhere. That's everywhere. That's everywhere. Yeah. Well, we're going to hire this to third. We're going to hire this to third. We're going to hire this to third. Well, we're going to hire this to 30 year old coach and he's going to be great. We're going to hire a guy off his tree and he's going to be great. No, Zach Taylor in that great. And there's been some young coaches out there who have fallen by the wayside here over these last couple of years. So he does it in a different way. They go out. They make a they make a very bold trade. They got 11 the 11 captains on their football team. So it doesn't surprise me that a team is able to do things that other teams aren't. Which is not play in the preseason. Not do certain things. Show up a day before a game in Australia that's being played in the morning in Australia.
And somehow they're just able to get away with it. It never it never seems to bite them in the ass. They trade away all the picks. It doesn't matter. It never comes back to bite. They should take one of the Super Bowl last year. And they are the team that I'm telling you. If you are if you are taking cues from them, I think you're signing your own pink slip. Cause they're just it's just a totally different atmosphere there than it is everywhere else. Miles Garrett, big leader. Maybe all of a sudden did become a big leader. Wouldn't surprise me that they were to brainwash him into being a George Paul type of figure for the LA Rams. It would be amazing. And it wouldn't surprise me. But you're going to be watching Miles tonight. You said you're actually surprised it going to be there. Yeah. Well, just because he's barely practiced. Aaron Donald ain't going to be there. Yeah, Aaron Donald didn't make the trip. And look, I do think the storyline is going to be obnoxious tonight. They better they better be careful netflix because if that's all they talk about, then it's going to It is going to undercut, you know, the actual football of, you know, one really good team and another team.
The 49ers that they've just gotten old. And I'm a big believer in Shanahan. But this team is old and the Brock pretty conversation is going to be interesting this week. I wonder how much miles Garrett we're going to hear. Because to me, if you know Aaron Donald's not going to be there and Miles is going to be looking to get sacks. Like we've seen offensive coordinators play miles right out of a game. Unless the Rams have a lead down the stretch. And then it's going to be the miles and everyone's terrified to see. We got to jump back into this football game. I, I totally forgot. I got to tell you, I totally forgot that he's going to be playing for the Rams. I did because I'm so bronze focused about. I'm honestly, I'm focused about trying to win an argument and tell people that I think the bronze are going to win on Sunday against Jacksonville. Which I do firmly believe they will. I'm picking them to win. I totally forgot he's going to be there. It will be a little bit surreal to see them to see him in that uniform today. Tonight, even though it'll be in the morning. He'll, something tells me he'll look bigger just because he's on a, he's in a uniform.
He's on a team that's not for success. More intimidating. We used to say that all the time about the Steelers. Yeah. Just because you were a Steelers jersey automatically people think you're better than what you really are. And I don't think that anymore, by the way, that has eroded over time, even though they still win enough games every year to compete for the playoffs. But I don't, the mystique is gone there with the Rams is totally different. You, you could put all sorts of bad players in those jerseys. I'm just used to them winning now. Two, one, six, four, seven, four to below 92. I want to remind John of something coming up here momentarily. However, Josh Heinz Allen. This is audio courtesy. What station is it again? By the way, that's down there. Keith just sent us the audio courtesy. I think it was a press conference, but I still want to get it right anyway. Of the station that was sent down there. 1010 XL, 92 five. That's their flagship down there in Jacksonville. Here is Josh Heinz Allen on stopping the run against the Cleveland Browns. The last time you went against an offense led by Todd Monkin, it was 2023 against Baltimore.
They had over 250 yards on the ground. Are you expecting that play style to translate over to Cleveland as well? It is not going to happen. Armada was to stop the run. So by any means, they're not running the ball that much on us. I expect coming out running the ball. I think his philosophy of how he sees the game. Yes, I expect that, but two hundred and thirty yards, that's not happening. So respectfully. I'm going to ask you a really stupid question on purpose. Does anybody in this room, or anybody listening, or anybody on hold right now? Thanks to Sean Watson could throw the team on his back and go in the game. Right. I mean, that's is there anybody who thinks they can do that? No, okay. So right now, until we see it, not right now. If what Josh Heinz Allen says is true, which is a team that was number one against the rush, I think last year. Oh boy, I'm going to sound like a real big idiot on Monday. Oh, giving nitty gritty right now. What does that mean if they are coming and gearing up to stop the run? And that's all they are focused on because they don't think Watson can beat them. What are the wrinkles? What are the things that Brown's can actually go? What break down some football? You want some football?
Well, you can ask. Let's get to it. You can ask Coach Lance about this. It's the same reason why Dylan Samson looked better when he first, like, started becoming the feature back after Quinch on junk. It's got. Yes, because they were like, Hey, number 10 is the threat. We need to circle number 10. We eliminate number 10. We don't respect the pass. If they circle number 10 again, when Sean Jenkins is still number 10. If they circle number 10 again and they stop the run, do you believe that Deshaun Watson can put it on them to keep him honest? Now you have better wide receivers. Well, we don't think he can sit in a pocket. Exactly. Feel a pocket. No one needs to get rid of the football and then deliver an accurate strike down the field that gives his wide receiver a chance. Haven't seen a lot of evidence of that. I've an offensive because my whole thing with an offensive line hasn't played together much. Yeah. It's like you run the football because it's easier to go forwards and it is to go backwards. So I run the football unless I have my homes behind him, I'm running the ball. Does the RPO stuff at all give them a chance? I know Zach did not think that he has a requisite athleticism anymore or the mobility.
But I said, did see once I saw I'm going to have to I did see him take off maybe a few times in the preseason where I'm like, all right. It's still not to because if he proves that he's any threat whatsoever, then it's something I have to bracket during the game and unlock during the game. And I like I'm sure they have spent some time going well, he can still be an athlete. How much of an athlete? I just wouldn't bet against a team that I'm playing and take it lightly that oh yeah, this guy sucks now. He can't run all of a sudden. He may not be able to run, but I'm going to have him prove that to me and let instead of me just assuming if I'm running the defense of the Jaguars. 216474 to below 92. This guy thinks that Dishon Watson might be able to throw the team on his back. JJ and Cleveland, your next up on the fan. Hello. Good morning. How y'all doing? We're doing wonderful. JJ, go ahead. First off, I'm going to start like this. We don't back every quarterback we didn't have. It included the shine Watson. You know, it don't matter if they talk short, old coming out of college, old 40 years old or young.
Yes, because it's Dishon Watson. He's still strapping up and got brown and orange on. You know, and he won a 32. That's starting and he starts our team. He used to be good at it, but for some reason we critiqued everything remotely bad that this guy. What do you mean for some reason? No, no, no, some reason. You know, all the reasons. JJ, don't be silly on this radio station. No, I love this show, man. I thank you all the time. So if you call the time and you listen all the time, then you know that it just for some reason. Earlier today, I mean, like not earlier, but not too long ago, y'all, y'all was, it was, uh, whatever press conference he just did about the bus. Come on, we know he ain't forgot about us booing him at home. I know that. And you know that. But you know, damn well, it's not just about some reason. Yes, it's been horrible. Yes. But we critiqued, we critiqued a third quarter of a preseason game that nobody cares about.
Even if he would have went out there and lit it up, we would have said he lit it up a third string here. I swear to God on my dead mother. That's not what that was. JJ, you said he listened to the show. That's not what I was about. No, I know I also heard somebody just say they saw some passes. He was pretty crisp. That was me. And I'm gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. And I'm gonna say that. He ain't got our number. Jacksonville Trevorlox Sunshine. He's not got our number. We might have go down to Jacksonville. Whoop on them. Then we gonna go over the Baker Mayfield. And he might just show Baker Mayfield why they chose to spend 240 or whatever on me. And I did. Yeah. All right. You know what I'm saying? You might just do that. You might just do that. If you ain't wucky going to come home and move the guy. No way. Let it come on. I'ma be down there. We'll be down there, Gay 3. And we don't turn up. What are you going to do? What are you going to say if the guy next she's pulling? What are you going to say? What are you going to do?
Listen, say that again. What are you going to do if the guy next to you is pulling? I'm going to, hey, listen. I'm going to laugh in his face. I mean, if we're doing bad, yes, he got a reason to move. But if someone come out with just pulling right out the gate, don't do that. Does he like, I mean, if you come back to an old, you're going to move. No, they're going to move. They come back to an old. They're not going to move. I did. All right, then. If you come back one in one, are we going to move? I'm only saying it when we want. I can't say they're going to win week two. Yeah, listen, I know. Me personally, I don't know. But I believe that the Browns win week one. Well, the Willie's degree on something. That's a Bill A. Beat us, man. Who has to, that's a Bill A. Beat us. He beat them. We beat they've won all the time. We beat them in the trade for the corner. For the cornerback receiver. Yeah, he played receiver, isn't he? Tommy's wrong, Todd. All right, listen, I'm. Tommy's wrong. I have a son. Tommy's right. He's playing a cornerback. You can't. Come on.
Tommy's down. He'll beat us. Don't throw. Thank you, Joe. Joe. He's out. I'll show you. What position is Travis on a plane this week? Either is he doing either? Long staffer. He's cornered back now. Oh, he's just a corner and they took him. No, he's listed on that offense of Dept Chart, buddy boy. Right there. Number 12. Oh, so he's going to be the tail and green of the Jacksonville offense. He's just a corner. Can. Beat. It doesn't say that on this, on this Dept Chart, that's officially released by the, as prepared by the PR staff of the Jacksonville Edwards. We're going to be on our Dept Chart. Tail and green is listed as a quarterback. Well, when he takes off running. Yeah, but they don't have him listed as a running bag. There's not or tail and green on the running bags. They got, they have, they have Travis Hunter on both these things. It's way. It's just a corner. I believe you. It's like when I say Daniel Jones is the best running back playing quarterback in the NFL. For now. But when they mark him as a quarterback, I got to say he's a quarterback and they marked
this guy as both wide receiver and cornerback. You know what? I was going to say something to the microphone that's four letters. It starts with B about Travis Hunter. But then I realized we're going up against him on Sunday. Maybe I need to wait a few days. I have any to wait a few days. Don't you don't do that. Actually do do that. Should I? Yeah, because if it's not true, at least I got somebody who takes the heat off of me. Like if we lose and I take all the heat, that's not going to be fun. But if you're sitting there calling them a bust, I can throw it in your face. Well, I want to call them a bust and won't say it. Call them a bust. I thought it was boy. I want to say it with your chest. Say it. Tell everybody. I was called them a bust. Say it now. Give me a few days. No, say it now. I ain't no few days. Fine. Fine. Travis Hunter and Andrew Barry was on top of this and I predicted it. He's been an absolute bust and I think it will continue to be a bust. Pick your position. Who are you? What are you? Are you even good at either? At an ethical level? I didn't see it last year.
Bust. Can I write lines up for you? I don't say them on the air. Do you do? We had Mason Graham last year. He was not a bust. Was not a bust. That's me talking about a Michigan man. It's true. That's the one good guy they had from that alleged national champion team. Are you from the non-error? I forget it. Two-one-six-four-seven-four-devil-o-nine-two. Bust. Coming up in five minutes. Are young MC Bustamove? John is learning every day about Cleveland baseball. He's from Philadelphia, by the way. He's about to learn that we are not so different when it comes to football, their fans and ours. And I'd be pretty upset. And if she did this, I'd be even madder, but it ain't my wife. Can Carmen Anthony Lime alive in the fan? He's gonna score two touchdowns, isn't he?
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