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You can follow Anthony Heron on X at Big Ant Heron is the way to do that. He is on Twitch right now as he joins Rahimi and Grote. Anthony, what did we see yesterday? We saw one of the most talented, most capable young offences in the national football league who had been eagerly awaiting the opportunity to show folks what they were capable of in the 2026 season and man did they unleash on the Carolina path. There's a lot of folks, a lot of guys on the field who I just got the sense that they've been so anxious to bring what they've been experiencing in a lot of ways in private because there's one thing to go out there and be able to view practice and to be able to see what they're going about in walkthroughs and some of the few videos, even in preseason games. But they knew that they felt like there was something special that they were capable of

and we saw it on display in Carolina yesterday. We absolutely did and that's I think we just have to get used to the fact that this is the new world order now. Let's hope, right? We joked about it and it's uncomfortable to watch on the defensive side of the ball but at the same time offensively and I just I keep reiterating it to score over 50 points in the NFL and any team. I know it happened to the Bears last year but to score over 50 points in the NFL the way they did yesterday against a playoff team at home. A team who won its division last year. That is as big of a statement as you can make and then to do it with the run game. To run 70 plays where you're predominantly running the like the run plays are working for you. I think there is an anomaly there that really stands to be appreciated today. I'm not here to tell you I expect Carolina to be one of the best defenses in football this season but Devin Lloyd is going to make plays. Jalen Phillips is going to sack quarterbacks. Derek Brown is

going to stuff runs and be in the backfield. We have seen what J.C. Horn is capable of. He's going to pick quarterbacks off. They've got guys who will be making plays this year for a team that will likely be very competitive again in that division. That being said, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams made midst meet of them. That offensive line was moving folks against their will. It was just really fun to see so much of the work, so much of the preparation, the detail that they've gone about things with. Come to fruition on the field and even as Bryce Young was extremely impressive in his own right. And Carolina's offensive playmakers were given that Bears defense fits. So it wasn't like the Bears offense could just kind of take their foot off the gas, throttle things down and just sort of ooze their way to a secure win. They had to stay urgent. They had to stay vibrant. They had to stay

in attack mode. And they did. And I liked the fact that there was consistently a need for them to respond. Now some of it was self-inflicted that need to respond to Carolina making plays here but they did need to. And so consistently they were able to. And there was just such a control and a confidence to the way that Caleb Williams went about the task of being a pro quarterback yesterday that is extremely encouraging for Bears fans. The the I'll use your word the the urgency. And I'll use authority as well with which Deandre Swift was running is so vastly different from the Deandre Swift we saw two years ago in his first year. We saw versions of it last year after the first four games. What did you see? What was you mentioned the offensive line moving people and there is no doubt about it. They get a ton of credit for what the running game did yesterday. But what did you see specifically from Deandre Swift and maybe even Kyle Menunguy as well. He's become such a decisive

runner. Kyle Menunguy has been a decisive runner since the first time he carried a football in pop Warner. That hasn't always been Deandre Swift. I've been breaking down Deandre Swift films since he was in high school. So I've been watching his entire football journey since that point. He's always been a guy who's looking for daylight like the obvious daylight the apparent open field opportunities are where he's always been drawn to like a mouth to a flame now between last season I'd say it's even enhanced growth in what we saw yesterday a guy who's so decisive in his willingness to attack downhill to see the hole and sometimes be slow to it and fast through it but that burst that he gets to the line of scrimmage with and then even if there's contact on him that that willingness just to continue to power his way through defenders. He's just a very different running back now than he was earlier in his career earlier in his NFL journey. He's always been an

effective running back but most of that has been finding essentially the finesse ways to go about it in the open field ways to go about it. Now we see this version of Deandre Swift with a willingness to kind of do the boring in a similar fashion to what we're talking about with Caleb Williams. Deandre Swift is now willing to do the boring as a running back to hit the hole as it's designed as it's assigned but then when that opportunity is there to make something big happen he's still more than capable of bursting into the open field and being this great open field playmaker as well. Yeah one of my notes in my I went with the notebook big aunt today. I love her notebook. Grody Grody rather I write in the notebook instead of the Google Doc Google Doc last year was a hundred pages that's probably still winning but one of my notes says Deandre first it says feed Swift good penetration of the middle plus nine CSW first down nice block first down commit plus six run he had a very nice game yesterday Colcomat quietly had a very nice game

especially in the blocking game as well there were a couple I think past plays two commit that Caleb probably won back and then the other note that I have here is Deandre Swift nearly killed a guy like the way that they were running was just they first of all feed them because they and he and my not guy were doing so well but then you're right the way they were doing the simple stuff so well some of the best offenses I've watched in the NFL over decades were boring but they were boring because everybody was so good at their jobs that right side of the line is kind of like that too you know Deandre Swift did that yesterday it's under appreciated how much the run game needs to time up with the blocking scheme and that that's a place where Deandre Swift has covered so much ground in the couple of the years now that that he's been here with the bears we we can all remember a couple of seasons ago his first year here all the the moments on social media where you freeze frame it there's this open hole that it looks like Deandre Swift should get vertical and go into

and he's still looking to bounce the football and you know I I want wondered very allowed here on this station and other platforms is that kind of the plateau for Deandre Swift is that what he's capable of in this league when you scheme him in the open field he can make a big play but not necessarily be this down in down out running back that runs with detail there's a detail to the way he runs the football that helps set up the blocking assignments and for common none guy for his running mate it's like they've they've been able to store sort of blend their skills because Monunguy is now a more creative open field runner that cut he may not want to talk about these bears receivers in a second to the cut he made off of some of these blocks that were being thrown by burden and Raymond and what we saw from from Walker as he got into the space like that looked Deandre Swift ish so Swift being willing to get vertical and time things up with the footwork

that's necessary to set that up and Monunguy now looking for those jump cut opportunities to burst in open field we see them kind of learning from each other and combining the best aspects of what they are is running backs and all the detail of the way these things time up and block themselves up it's it's really it's talked about in more detail and more volume with the way that rhythm and timing matters in the passing attack but rhythm and timing in the run game with when and how running backs hit the hole to set up their offensive line the tight ends the receivers as they're blocking that's a big part of how the bears run game is successful because there's so much detail to the way they execute that is the insightful voice of Anthony here of 104 three the score the big 10 network fox 32 NBC sports and you can catch big ants on the score post game show on Sunday evening coming up after the Minnesota game this week all right Anthony what would you like to talk about as it pertains to the bears wide receivers the personality of a football team can show a lot

in certain position groups and it's it's seen most easily I would say on the lines of scrimmage if you really view yourselves as as a physical football team if a coaching staff wants their film to speak to people then yes the offensive and defensive line is where people will turn to most directly but how you really know if a squad is bought in you'll watch the wide receiver core you look at the way the receivers act when they're not getting the football it's one thing when you break the huddle and you know you're the guy at the top of the route tree you're going to be the number one option and you run that route really hard you present your numbers to the quarterback and you hope that he's going to throw you the rock because you really set things up perfectly then yes it's easier to really try and perform at your peak of effort when that's the case but when they're handing the ball off as much as the bears hand the ball off and that's the film that upcoming opponents see they know they got to strap it up when jade walker is going to be out there in the

open field teakettlin folks when the way that you you have you know Roma doons a stop block and and driving his feet get his hands inside and driving his feet on contact like he's an offensive tackle you have calie vrayman one of the smallest guys on the field in their inserting in the blockers Luther burden as the insert as a lead blocker on some of these run schemes and they're taking pride in it like that matters so much that film speaks to opposing defenses to let them know the bears mean business when you see the little guys on an offense with that degree of intensity and integrity with the way they're attacking the game of football that's encouraging it's exciting i'm confident that film room at house all has been lighten up just watching the way you show that stuff to everyone on the entire team you show that to people in the front office when you say look at our little guys attacking the opponents in this way that shows the personality of this football team

the buy-in of this football team more than anything else they can put on film i couldn't agree more and there's technique involved with that and our segment with anthony here in his sponsor by great clips it's going to be great one of the things that was most compelling to me wasn't just the fact that the technique was so sound it's i flashback i do this i'm sorry but i will never forget just wanting to throw something at the tv flashback and i believe it was i don't think it was get say i think it was oc previous to get say so it was one of the mat negy ocees when they asked doorknole mooney to set the edge do you remember that yeah and don't know who knew was was maybe a buck fifty and they had him in a position where there was a clear physical mismatch and they asked him to set the edge and you knew at that point you knew at that point there was no way that that was going to be a successful blocking scheme number one the play was going to fail from the start it and then i'm out here going okay oh oh these guys know how to block like you're seeing some

really nice open field blocks from guys where there is a physical mismatch but the technique was so sound that they they were able to get it done and even think about you know from a technique perspective think about that play that the sixty one yarner and i'm not convinced that common young guy would beat both of you in a foot race over sixty plus yards but mananga as he bursts and gets to top gear there's a chance for him to go and how many times have we seen in football where the other receiver who's hustling but then does something dumb and here's jade walker he's hustling and he's sprinting down the field trying to secure a touchdown for his teammate and instead of clipping some guy in the back instead of shoving somebody down instead of grabbing a jersey or maybe taking a cheap shot that could drop penalty flag and take a touchdown off the board he sprints fast enough to get in front of several defenders and then just wards them off just boxes them out just booty blocks the defense to make sure that mananga is going to get that sixty one yard touchdown run that's the type of intelligence of intensity that this team can really thrive off of

if they keep that now having a dozen penalties in the game is not a good thing but that to me that moment is an indicator where they're still trying to think the game one of their youngest least experienced players in a moment like that thinking the game at a high enough level to do something that does require effort and intensity while still having an intellect about the way he executed it you're listening to a plumbers 9-1-1 football Monday presented by bucy bank and great clips it is their reheamy and grody show in 104-3 the score we are absolutely talking to Anthony heron right now what did you think about Caleb Williams's game man to combine the physical tools that he has with the the aptitude the acumen that he operated from within the pocket when i'm talking about Caleb looking comfortable in the game i'd say a great indication of that is his leading receiver being calie frame in the game because from a matchup perspective colston lovelin coming out of the game with a couple of targets and no grabs about at 59 points you're leading receiver not being roman dunes

a not being looter burden not being colston lovelin or deandre swift not being co-commet but calie frame in is not a guy who you say that's our matchup advantage that's the guy who we know the defenders can't cover but that's just calib letting the defense speak to him that's calib letting the defense tell him where's your weakness where should i be going with the football here in the fact that calie frame in was that guy who came out on the top end from a targets and a receptions perspective that just indicates to me that calib is seeing the feel cleanly he got a variety of coverage looks in that game yesterday from the panthers and handled them all really well but then still when the play did break down when he needed to get into his bag with some of those physical traits of the mobility the open field speed he was still willing and able to do that to that balance between the left brain and the right brain that's so difficult for all of us who are maybe more dominant on either side to manage we saw him in real time in live action on a national football league

field operating with both those ends of his personality and his traits at a level like we don't see all the time man so all the excitement that many of us have had that the football world has had with the madden cover and everything else if that's just the first time we're going to see him do that if that level skies the limit and i have a question to ask you after a break about a rookie who i think deserves a lot of flowers in this game defensively so i want to get your thoughts so do we want to do that next with anthony here and i think that's a good idea plus we do have to talk about the defense which gave up 478 years i'm glad you have flowers because there are there were some flower worthy defensive plays for sure but we have to talk about some of the defensive breakdown so we will do that coming up next with anthony by the way we'll have another caller segment after anthony here and right around 1140 1145 we've got people if you're on hold you will be rewarded but make no mistake about it we will continue to keep the phone lines open here on Rahimi and Grote 312 644 67 67 more with anthony here and on the bears next right here on the score new shoes

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and that they were catching Jalen Johnson and Tyree Stevenson in these aggressive postures on double moves getting chunk plays over and over again and I think it's a credit two things one Dennis Allen essentially simplifying the coverage responsibilities just making sure that Malik Muhammad is going to constantly be in man coverage because one of the toughest things for a nickel to do is to decipher so much of the information that the closer you get to the box to the line of scrimmage to all the big people into the football then that's where you have to be able and willing to react in a moment's notice sometimes you have to react with physicality sometimes you have to react with finesse but depending on what the scheme is and what you're assigned is there's a lot of really quick decision making that happens when you're defending in the slot he pretty much happened Malik Muhammad and the entire secondary was I can AMC defense they were pretty much always in man coverage against Carolina that did provide some opportunities for Bryce Young to extend the play sometimes you got backs turned

of defenders and people are running around but you didn't see bus you saw some physical errors but you didn't see mental errors necessarily and I thought that really put Malik Muhammad in a situation and Dylan Thiniman in positions to just be comfortable without having to overthink and over evaluate and it combined well with the offensive onslaught that we saw from the bears where they were constantly playing with a lead so then DA could be in a position where he didn't necessarily feel like there needed to be a lot of schematic adjustments he certainly got more aggressive in the second half of the game bring more additional pressure but Malik Muhammad handled that really well that same feisty and competitive demeanor that I was talking to you guys about in the preseason that showed up in the game yesterday and it was really a great grab that he made on that interception to close out the first half yeah he had a good weekend between Texas beating Ohio state has on all right and then his you know his bears win that wasn't bad that was an insane game I know you had an eye on it I did yeah very closely very closely no doubt the when I was doing

post post yesterday there were a couple of folks who were basically saying like all right I'm done with Jalen Johnson he's not back I'm so worried about him and what he's doing and he's never going to be a great player again I responded to a couple of them I'll say this for Jalen Johnson and that there's a lot of scrutiny and expectation because he has been a great player when healthy earlier in his career what I saw yesterday from Jalen Johnson was a guy who guessed wrong multiple times I saw a level of aggression and coverage that isn't who he frequently is one of the reasons that the interception numbers weren't exceptional earlier in Jalen Johnson's career was because he constantly keeps himself in a position where the quarterback doesn't normally throw his guy to football those double moves yesterday both which like Tyree Stevenson being being on a double move that didn't surprise me double moves have always been the foil for Tyree Stevenson for Jalen Johnson that's not something we've seen I didn't see a guy who I felt like had lost a step

physical okay good yeah I saw a guy who looked to me like he guessed wrong on multiple occasions but even that moment where the the slant route gets caught and I'm forgetting which Panthers receiver then I don't know statistically if Thiniman got credit for the force fumble or if it was Jalen Johnson I don't know either I think it was Johnson but that's a great question still chasing all the way across the field like Jalen Johnson had to before he peed up punches that ball out you saw some tracing speed some chase down speed from him having to get out of his break be sudden in his movements and then get into chase mode to track down a receiver and while he's doing it to be able to have the body dexterity to punch the football out while he's trying to secure a tackle so I didn't I didn't see anything that concerned me with Jalen Johnson physically and mentally that's always been one of his superpowers is reading routes on the run he didn't have a good day doing it yesterday but I'm I'm not discouraged where Jalen Johnson's at at the moment all right it's good I mean that's that was going to be my question that's a relief because of what we saw last year where he clearly

because of the injury was off a step and exposed quite a bit and good for him for coming back in the first place last year so hopefully he will get better going forward defensive line big hand obviously Jalen I talked about Montess wet with with a huge sack on third and seventh early in the game exploiting Monroe Freelink which is what you're supposed to do to a rookie tackle in this league who I don't even think they wanted to put out there in this game but injuries dictated that what did you think about the defensive line in general though yesterday the bears did what they could to sort of attack in waves as as I anticipated where they they had a number of bodies rolling through and between Dio Dengbo and him Montess sweat at times with flop sides where you'd see sweat pretty regularly rushing the left edge in the first half of the game we got into the second half and he and Dio flipped assignments responsibilities and sometimes you're just trying to get a feel for what it's like rushing against the other offensive tackle and throughout his entire career Montess sweat hasn't consistently been a guy that's shown comfort rushing either edge it really had as much

as many opportunities to rush from both edges so I like them at least switching that up on occasion in the game we saw Austin Booker get plenty of reps and more so pass rush then run down just today where you get Dio Dengbo you know kind of switching down to the inside is a three technique over the guard but Montess wet getting that early sack it was nice he got to the quarterback more consistently early in the game that then he did as the game were on and you can get kind of tired when you're chasing a guy like Bryce Young around as consistently as that bears D line had to it was hot muggy conditions we saw Christina Pink sand was a 126 or 128 degrees on the turf or whatever yeah so I'm not surprised the D line didn't look as energetic in the second half as they did in the first you would hope they're going to find ways to be more impactful more effective throughout more of the game than they were yesterday yeah and I I noted how much time in empty no less Bryce Young had to throw that was one of those indicators for me where I wonder Dennis Allen

goes back and shows that tape because empty is supposed to be where your defensive line eats and that wasn't the case at all right you know you're not getting shipped you're not getting doubled as frequently just depending on how many bodies you're showing one of the things that's within the Dennis Allen scheme you can have linebackers more consistently walked up into the a gaps and once you do start showing mug looks or you start having it whether it's a zero technique knows you get a linebacker head up on the nose when you're covering the center then you can create one-on-one matchups on the outside when you do that against an empty backfield you're guaranteeing that your defensive ends are going to be one-on-one with those tackles and so that's available to the bears one thing they started doing and a factor in the reason that they seemingly wore down more in the second half they they began using more power rushes Montess sweat was getting home early in the game you guys remember last year I talked to you a lot about how much time Montess sweat spends as a power rusher powering through the body of the offensive tackle as opposed to just looking to turn the corner

and that's the difference between he and a guy like Max Crosby who spends more time beating offensive tackles in space with more finesse based moves Montess sweat is more of a power rusher but as he turned the corner a couple of times early in that game he just utilized speed and his levers violent hands as Bryce Young started to run around and extend plays the bears were more focused on condensing the pocket and just not allowing those easy escape lanes for a really diminutive and very elusive quarterback and Bryce Young who can be tough to sack just because frankly you got to reach down to the ground to get him sometimes with how small he is and how he can duck and dodge and dip his shoulders so you saw the bears take more of a focus on condensing the pocket with power but that does take a lot more energy it's a lot more physically taxing as a power rusher when you're as opposed to the offensive line in a run scheme like with pad level like I was highlighting on social media what down there right and Jonah Jackson are doing just firing off the ball moving folks when you're bull rushing an offensive lineman who frequently is bigger and heavier than you

it takes a lot of energy to do that I think that's a part of where the bears d line kind of wore down a little bit more in the second half too and they weren't past rushing and getting free as much but it's because they spent more time down the middle of the offensive line just trying to condense the pocket Anthony Herron with us here Rahimi and Grody on 104th free the score let me take you to the second quarter Anthony the bears are up 21 to 14 it's a fourth and one on their own 20 and the bears go for it the Caleb William sneak is no good it turns into a brace young touchdown to tie the game at 21 what did you think about the play there or the decision really or both really the decision bothered me more than the play it just it felt unnecessary and the way their offense was rolling I more than understand having confidence in the bears offense but at your own 21 again fourth and one you want to you want to convert four than one but you got the ball at your minus 20 minus 21 in that area of the field with the way that the Panthers offense had begun rolling

in the game too that's me was just an unnecessary risk it was it was kind of a you know an unforced error I think by Ben Johnson and this is certainly going to be it's going to continue to be a part of the Ben Johnson experience and as an old football dinosaur I feel I've come a long way on the idea of going for fourth downs I don't have an issue with attempting fourth downs frequently but just the full context matters the minus 21 with the way the Carolina's offense has just been slicing up the bears defense up to that point in the game to me if you don't convert that the risk reward of that doesn't outweigh the idea of getting some field position to punt the ball away and giving your defense a legitimate chance to try and come up with a stop I didn't like that decision I didn't like the execution either unfortunately we've seen Caleb Williams have a bad habit where he will turn his back to the line of scrimmage on a play like that it happened last year and I feel like it was it was something he overcame last season but then we

see it happen a couple times in the game yesterday where he finished with his back toward the line of script you're not going to move forward if you're if you're floating backward like this is not a pole vault and I think we saw that too I wonder if he's like if Caleb is pushing a boulder up a mountain does he does he do it facing the boulder does he turn around and try to drive his legs in that way but from about excuse me bears I got you yeah yeah from uh thank you I'm gonna drink water don't don't you don't you go dying on us now man I'll also point out the high jump is another case where you move forward by floating backwards but it doesn't always work in football a little clumsy never tried the fosbury flop myself I had a attract coach at bowling brick high school when I used to try to do the high jump he would never let me do it he said I was too big so if I actually landed on the high jump high jump pole at some point he was very worried I was gonna break it at my side so this is an equipment decision more so that was a skill decision yeah I mean I don't know what the budget

was at that point it's like we break a backboard your parents have to pay for it the next bit of a concern of an issue suppose if I were to broken the high jump pole at some point then we'd had to pay for that too you were doing high jump like I didn't know if it's well I was hoping to I was attempting to but it didn't end up working out I was not allowed to do it because my track coach wouldn't let me he had a big problem with the idea that I might actually break the poles I would mess around with it in practice but he never got to the point where he let me try it in the meat because at some point no matter how good you do an attract meat you're going to have to miss a high jump at some point yeah I wasn't a bad jumper back in the day you know the whole quad zilliphing but he never did let me actually try it in a meat if he knew I can make certain heights in practice he'd let me tinker around but not I never got to do it in a meat because at a certain point you're gonna miss and he's worried at my size if I missed I was gonna break all his equipment what did you end up doing in track then shot in disc I would occasionally sprint you know do some of the big man relay type of stuff and you know occasionally run the 100s and 200s because we get done with the shot putting disc really early in a track meat then from there we're just sitting

around for hours waiting to take the bus home so yeah I do a little bit of running here in there but mainly shot putting disc Anthony you're the best man thanks for joining us uh get right there buddy I don't want to we don't need to cough it at the end of these segments you know I'm saying yeah I know it's asking a lot man two whole segments with you guys I mean I'm trying to put up with the best that game testing my stamina you're awesome thank you man we really appreciate you growth slightly appreciate you both thanks and dead is uh Anthony Heron I love this text message from the 847 because we came in with chop sui from system of a down as our music coming into Anthony Heron and the texture says I love that my dad just texted me is system of a down a real band and are they considered good thank you for forcing my dad to consult with me for my music expertise yes they're a good band well you don't have to ask are the bears good and that's a nice place to be and so sure we'll we'll take band talk no doubt about it yeah there's a new metal revival going on right now and the fall lines are up but we got people that are

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Kyle Menon guy just bursting to the end zone right there Adam Amin with the awesome call on fox from yesterday that's your complimentary football the bears had just stopped the lions on their the lions the panthers on their own little attempt at fourth and three nope nope and that we're going to put her right in your face after that and Menon guys going to get some nice blocks along the way and it's going to get into the end zone of the game was about to be over right there as we welcome you back into Rahimi and grody i 104 3 the score let's go back to some calls are you ready layla to go back to the phone line i mean it is what we do on a football Monday is it not a victory Monday the chicken is going to be here soon when noley's friends when noley's is providing us with the victory chicken today layla has showed food discipline up until that point we're all showing food disciplines yeah i haven't eaten today yeah that'll be my first meal we might have to get coffee too breakfast at one o'clock whoo delicious already got coffee it's in the fridge because i don't want to drink it yet let's go south a little bit let's go to

Chinatown and that's where we find Henry hey Henry thanks for calling your on Rahimi and grody on the score uh hey how you doing i uh well uh first up i uh i apologize i feel like i sound like doc rivers from uh screaming at the tv and cheering at my uh local barb beneath this tavern you're you're all welcome to bingo night on wednesdays uh anyways uh i want to say i you've talked about it i really admire ben johnson being committed just committed to the rum game uh we seem like offences mindy coaches not do that uh you know spam past plays like it's madden so i it's just it's just cool to see uh a door running back can on that we have um and what a week one i mean i just feel like you probably noticed this too just going around the city everybody's mood is just just bumping into people and and bears gear and just starting a random uh packers suck chant just awesome and uh yeah no it's just uh yeah finally uh shout out to Lana and knockouts for

listening to me uh mark out about the bearer's game and talk about my cat and video games that's all i gotta say you guys are great take care now all right henry yes i hate shout out to Lana we were hey we were gonna do a shout out to Lana but henry already did the shout out to Lana you know it's interesting that he talks about the the run again because it really illustrates the difference between mat and aggy because remember people are like oh is this is ben johnson is mat and aggy it's like the same same idea this guy is gonna pass pass pass the ball and have these explosive offenses but the differences with man aggy after every game and there were a lot of wins in 2018 we're like yeah but what about the run again where was jordan howard where was the rest of that run again the fact that he sticks to it and believes in it and creates it himself like he constructs ben johnson is responsible for constructing the entire run again which is a relative rarity for a head coach to do that it's also just a sign that you built an offensive system and you're not just collecting plays from everywhere that's part of that as well to re co and having only four touches in the playoff game

with the double doink will never not sit with me because it showed that the offensive game plan was to just run a bunch of plays and maybe some of them work and maybe they don't that's not what this head coach does gym is in aurora hi jim you're on the score good morning hey um i want to talk about that fourth downplay to me that just shows the genius of ben johnson's number one it shows his mind that the confidence that he has in that offense that they can do anything which is everybody knows in sports alive football based on these on your mind you know and it sets up for the rest of the season defense approaches are going to have to realize the very fast third and five thirty six they're not going to pass the ball they might run the box they got two plays to get that five or six yards so from here on out the rest of the teams to play the bears are going to have to think like that now third and short third and mid they're not going to pass like everybody else i think we saw some of that yesterday especially third and three that's the question mark that's

really where you see some of the offensive philosophy i love it and for them if they don't if they want to run the ball or they're very determined especially at a shotgun to run the ball on third and three because then you're that much farther behind the light of scrimmage you have that much farther to go you can see why that really does actually take place but i i can't get behind going for it i'm for that that's not showing that's not a good example of his genius i don't think that that's a good example of his risk taking and his confidence i don't know that's a good example of his genius i feel like the first half felt like part of the preseason still in nine penalties you know the bold choices were made fun bowls happened it felt very at least to start i was like what we started with a funnel three season hangover here i mean yeah it started with a roma doons a penalty on a deandre swift explosive play just some bad discipline penalties too right the fun bowl by by bird it was an entire game the first half was an entire game it was 31 24 at halftime the bears had three hundred and fifteen totally yards at halftime they had a hundred

and twenty five rushing yards at halftime and as you just said nine of their twelve penalties for actually i don't have the yardage here nine times the yardage also everybody asking about the meatball machine it will happen at one forty five the meatball machine never closed it is open for you permanently so the bear is committed twelve penalties total for fifty seven yards but in the first half according to my notebook it was nine for forty two yeah that's it yep i literally couldn't read my scratchy writing right there panthers that i think eleven penalties in the game it's what happens like beginning of seasons are always weird with referees like like there's sloppy play i'm not saying the bears didn't deserve the penalties same with carolina but it's like riffs are always testing new stuff i'm not sure what it was yeah because nobody wanted to call a face mask in the entire NFL yesterday is interesting i've said that earlier i don't run i don't philosophically i don't understand less the rest were just literally missing it i sometimes it was it was a hand on a face back at mask at the end of the play about how do i buy you guys i

saw a ton of face masks in games multiple games yesterday that i watched and it felt like none of them were even being called that's amazing we'll get to more of our NFL thoughts on the league and and the north and five on it but one more call here let's go to a Tony near midway hey Tony you're on the score hey what's up i'm as excited as i need one about the bears but i do have a concern that i think could be pretty consequential for them and that is we're just bad on short yardage whether that's on the goal line or like we saw yesterday with the fourth-dung conversion attempt we were bad last year and i just don't get it because our offensive line is really good we've got good running backs just your thoughts on that and uh hopefully they can claim it up because it could make a big difference as far scoring you're right no it's a weird quirk as good as the bears are seemingly everywhere else offensively as we were talking about layla they're a little clutsy when it comes to the to the one yards and Caleb Williams it got to be better at some of the quarterback

sneaks no it's it's been a problem and yes quarterback sneak for whatever reason has been a bug but the only thing i can say is once again he's probably watching that film going oh here's something that i did last year that i shouldn't do that came back a couple of times that was the surprising part you just can't finish with the back you're back to the play that you're talking to go anywhere you're going the wrong way and it's i know it's scary and i can't imagine what it's like when you're a quarterback trying to do that that doesn't seem fun to me yeah but it does seem like it's it's part of the job right in with all the people moving they were doing yesterday the offensive line was awesome that they can't get that one yard it's it's really agonizing but that is that is fixable that is a fixable thing and bears were for for the record they were ten of fourteen on third down yesterday it was just that one fourth down play they made i see i see the thought process for ben johns going forward on fourth down yeah but at the same time they scored a touchdown right afterward to carolina that was an easy drive for them no doubt and i

was saying like in real time i kind of fold my arms and i'm like okay because we all trust ben johnson right and we know that this is what he does i wasn't like mad like i think a lot of people were like what are you doing you're crazy even that these drew breeze was like i thought they were just gonna try to draw them do the old drawm off-sizing i was like okay man i trust you go ahead and you blew it in now try to draw them off sides at their home like that there's that layer of it to well i bear spandes off sides on soldier field how about the bears fan or the bears trying to quiet down the crowd in carolina the bear bear spandes are still making noise on offense stop making noise on offense bears fans don't do that oh yeah that was and adam and being pointed out the sign the joking sign by the panthers hey the bears need you guys to be more quiet hey pay their fans get loud yeah rack it up um coming up next here on rheemian grody more bears questions and NFL questions in five on it we're even gonna slide in a baseball question as well don't

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