Anxiety Isn’t The Enemy — it’s The Signal

This week, Josh and Bob take on one of leadership’s most under-discussed realities: anxiety.

Leading is hard enough. Leading while anxious? That’s another level. In this raw and personal episode, they unpack what anxiety looks like in real leaders — not as something to suppress or “manage,” but as something to understand, even befriend.

They share personal stories about how anxiety has shaped their decisions, moments they’ve fumbled through tough conversations (including a very human “first time firing someone” story), and how anxiety can actually serve as a signal — a reminder of care, growth, and awareness.

This isn’t a “how to stay calm” episode. It’s a conversation about why anxiety exists for a reason — and how great leaders use it to stay self-aware, humble, and human.

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