
About this episode
Are We Getting Stupider?
Andrew Rice joins The Lost Debate to ask an uncomfortable question: why are America’s schools getting worse—even in places that claim to care most about equity? Drawing on sobering national data and reporting from affluent liberal districts, Rice argues that declining standards, political complacency, and the abandonment of accountability have quietly erased decades of progress for kids. Ravi and Rice debate how both parties walked away from what worked—and why lowering expectations has become a substitute for real reform. It’s a sharp, urgent conversation about education, power, and who pays the price when adults stop demanding better for children.
Andrew Rice’s article The Big Fail (NY Magazine, Nov 2025)
------------
Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 201-305-0084
Follow Ravi at @RaviMGupta
Notes from this episode are also available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/
Read more from Ravi on Substack: https://realravigupta.substack.com
Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia
Listen to more episodes of Lost Debate on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lost-debate/id1591300785
Listen to more episodes of Lost Debate on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F
Listen to Where the Schools Went: https://thebranchmedia.org/show/where-the-schools-went/
Get every episode summarized
Each time Lost Debate publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Lost Debate

Negative Immigration, Trump on Data Centers, Alpha Schools
Lost Debate
Sep 2, 202644:51pending

The Future of AI and Education (with Reed Hastings)
Lost Debate
Aug 28, 20261:18:36pending

Primary Takeaways + Free Speech & Boycotts
Lost Debate
Aug 19, 202657:45pending

What We Did in the Shadows
Lost Debate
Aug 12, 202644:45pending