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What's happening guys? Happy Friday and thank you for tuning in at long last but I've been on a trip.

I went to California. I sat down with Georgiopluis I sat down with Armand Seruchin.

I'm going to tell you about that trip. I'm going to tell you what I learned. Plus,

Ronda Rousey is going hard at the UFC. We're going to get into that and we're going to have a

little time or ask Uncle Chale. I just spent the day in Big Bear California with Armand Seruchin

at training camp. Now, when I get in there, it's very interesting like I've never been to Big Bear

and in the fight game, you always hear about Big Bear. I can't quite remember the history

on that but I think it goes back to Muhammad Ali. Even if I'm wrong about that,

fighters have been training in Big Bear for a while and at some point Oscar De LaHoye buys a place.

He ends up selling that to Tito Ortiz but Big Bear had been on the map for a while. There's

something about elevation. That's kind of excited to go and I got to tell you it was his very beautiful

place and I get there and when I pull up, there's these gorgeous cars outside and I don't really

know fancy cars. I'm an Oregon. We don't see a lot of them but it was like a Ferrari and then this

Corvette and it was it was one of these things. So you pull up, we go inside and there was the

Armenians in the Dagestan. And this is how the house was divided. Other people were talking about

that. Hey, we need to keep the noise down. Hey, and it's okay. Well, we'll tell the Armenians

they're out front. Okay, we got it. You know, there's a sound issue. We're about to get this

interview. Okay, so we'll tell the Dagestan. He's there in the back. Like it's one of these things

for these two groups come together. And one of the things I was most interested was Saruki. Now

Chimaya was there. Chimaya was there when they were training. They go up to coach Cal to the

training lab a couple of times a week. I asked Armin about that. He said it's two hours away,

but we do our other training here. Armin is the number one ranked fighter in the

world. And to be the number one contender, you must have a signed bout agreement. The term

number one contender gets misused in our industry a lot. And it'll say the number one ranked guy.

Official number one contender, you could be ranked number eight. You could not be ranked at all.

Whoever has the bout agreement signed and is taking on the champion next is your number one

contender. But Saruki, it's got this MMA going. Last week, he was in Brazil,

taken on Makaya and Jujitsu rules match. And now he's getting ready for real American freestyle

a week from now, taking on George on the rematch. And I said, what's that training like? I mean,

you're doing three different sports. There was a time when those could blend together.

Right there. There was a real time where you could be out there wrestling training.

That's just going to be great for MMA. It's basically the same thing. Even if you're a little

more focused on this, you're going to get you're like, there was a time, but it was a long time ago,

but Saruki keeps beating everybody at everything. And I don't want it to look like it blends in.

I want him to get the credit he deserves, which is he is currently top of class in three different

sports. Jujitsu freestyle wrestling. And MMA are three very different sports. And this guy is

main event, main event, main event. So what is that training like? It is answers were very simple.

He said, you know, a few weeks before freestyle wrestling event, four days a week, I would do just

freestyle in the afternoon session, morning session, whatever the team is doing. But after

noon session, just freestyle. If I'm getting ready for a Jujitsu match, three, four weeks, whatever I

can do, four days a week, just Jujitsu. I'm getting ready for MMA. Just amazing. This is a very simple

answer. I've thought you guys would want to hear that though. And talking to him about its match with

Georgia. This is the one that that breaks into the brawl. Now, I'm right there. Right. I'm calling

the match. I'm right there. And when time runs out, the match is over.

Georgia was down. He's on. He's on like a knee. You know, he's down in some fashion. And

Armin is up on his feet, even though he's bent over. And I only share that because when Armin pushed

him, Georgia went over, but it was kind of like the position he was in and the whistle had blown.

It was one of these things. This fight breaks out. And so I assume, and I've even told you guys

this story. I go, you know, Georgia must have done something. Georgia must have said something. I

didn't hear him say anything. Now, I didn't see him do anything, but he must have.

Because Armin shoves him down and drops one right in his face, knee to the body.

Right. It breaks out. So I asked Armin about that. I go, he by the way, when that match ended,

what, what was it the Georgia? What did he do? He did he push up. And Armin goes, no, he did

nothing. He said something. He said something to you that you took the wrong way. He goes, no,

he didn't say anything. He did nothing at all. So I'm lost by Armin's honesty.

Everybody would, would pin it on the other guy. Oh, yo, he had that come and he did,

he's, he hears what he said. So I go back to it. I think maybe he didn't understand the question.

And I'm trying to hand him the alibi. I'm attempting to be his accomplice in the story. Okay.

Now, that's, that's so cautiously, but in hindsight, like I'm trying to hand him,

because then he makes it very clear to me. No, Georgia did nothing. He says, this was my plan

all along. I wanted to win the match. And in wrestling, you could, you can get this qualified

referee. He could take a point away. He said, I don't want to disqualified. I want to beat him.

I don't, I don't want to give him a point. He said, so I waited until time was up. And then I

punch him. I need him in the body. And I don't need to laugh. Like this was a terrible thing.

I don't like that. That happened in Georgia. I don't like that. Georgia got attacked. I

apologize for my own demeanor, but this was funny. It really what? The is level of honesty.

He says it was my plan all along. And he says, my coach even saw that I was losing my temper.

And my coach told me, no, wait, you must wait. This is wrestling. Stay focused in the wrestling.

Since so when, when I heard the final whistle in the match was over now, I'm free. I punch him. I

need him. All right. Another thing comes up. A suggestion comes up. And the suggestion was

actually by Georgia's side. And Georgia said, to complete a wrestling match, you have to come to

the middle, shake hands in the referee, acknowledges a winner. And he said, because of the brawl,

that did not happen. And he says, therefore, we did not conclude the match. Now, Georgia was

being a jerk about it. He said openly. He said time was up. And he had more points.

But under the rule, the match does not reach completion and tell the referee,

finishes procedure. I don't know actually if that is a rule. I got to tell you, I've never heard

this suggestion. But the argument was that it is not one zero arm. And after this match,

it doesn't become two zero arm in or a potentially one one for each of them. The suggestion was

that the first match did not reach completion. And that the rematch is actually a continuation of

the first, it's an interesting point. And Georgia would made this to me. And I brought up to

arm on and he kind of saw it the same way. And I wonder what you guys think because that was

tested in MMA as well. I don't believe there is a bylaw that says you have

to do the procedural ceremony. I don't believe that's a bylaw.

But there was a gentleman at the Olympics who showed poor sportsmanship on the medal stand.

And they disqualified him and took his medal away. And I bring it up in MMA because it's what

happened between Kabeeb and Connor. Kabeeb never had the belt put on him. I don't think that

changes things. I don't think there's a bylaw. I think it's just a talking point. But when I brought

it up to the two athletes, they both somewhat agreed that their match was not officially concluded.

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going well in heaven. So Chuck Norris went to sort it out. I like that game. Chuck Norris is a very

interesting one. I don't know him. I've never been in a room where he's there. Like I don't remember

him coming to a UFC. He may have, but I don't remember it. However, he was very supportive.

Like he's one of these guys. He's represents karate. He's a karate guy. So mixed martial arts

likes to tease Karate, right? Karate doesn't work. And then you meet a guy like Wonder Boy,

you meet a guy like Lyota, Machita, and you start to rethink that. But this has always been the thing.

Chuck Norris was very interesting because he braced the other side of it. Like there's videos

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where he brought in Hicks and Gracie. And he explained very openly. This is important to know.

I can show you things on your feet, but there's a whole nother realm to finding and it's what this guy

does. Chuck was very, he was very good about that. He was very respectful to the grapplers and the

wrestlers. And it wasn't just a respect to be kind. He truly understood that in a real fight situation

isn't necessarily what I have done or what I would help to depict in a movie situation.

But it was for this very reason that our community was so open to Chuck Norris and liked him so much.

And there's a video. I got a karate guy that I will go to Mike Metzger if I'm ever in a

karate situation or something I'm not understanding. And it's Chuck Norris versus super foot.

Bill Wallace. And this fight is so incredible that I have thought it was fake. And to

accuse somebody of a fake fight is a tremendous insult. I don't make that accusation at all.

I'm sharing with you like it. It was so interesting to watch these two. They float around the ring.

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if you go and you tube this video Chuck Norris versus Bill Wallace, they float around the ring.

Better than boxers do that sit there and jump rope all day. So for the very reason that they can

keep their feet moving better than MMA guys do. Who sit there and jump rope all days. So for

that very reason they can move their feet. These guys float in it. And I don't know their secret.

I like to know it because they're not the first time that I've seen karate guys with better

footwork and lighter on their feet. As a matter of fact, I've never seen anybody with better

footwork and lighter on their feet than karate guys. And that's a very weird skill to be great at

by the way. Because who does it? Who does it? I would challenge that you don't know anybody

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up the street five years ago. No, they weren't. And so to be good at it and

how are you going to learn that? And the way the story goes is you got to find other karate guys

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All right guys, time for ask Uncle Chale. Now I got one right off the bat. I got one. I already

peaked this from bone nickel. I love this question. The Bose says to me,

me versus you, part air goes best of five, 20 seconds each. Who wins? First off, I love the question

because now bone nickel is including me in his level. That's a very nice thing. I got to tell you

now I do have a thing if Bo really wants an answer. I am very difficult to turn. That's true.

I am very difficult to turn. But could I turn Bo? And that's what he's asking best to fight

like we go back and forth. I don't know that I have that same claim. I don't know that I have

the same claim that I could turn Bo. Now I must tell you I haven't tried to turn anybody in

20 years. That might be that might be literal. I have wrestled in the room.

But never from part air. And by the way, I don't I don't think freestyle. So I don't know that I have

a high confidence that I could turn Bo. I also just to clarify because that would be fun. I would

like if maybe maybe if somewhere we went in the back and we tried this, I would like it. But my big

claim is also gut wrench specifically. So that's my best to answer that question, but I love the

question. Do you think there is a world? This is from we win MMA. We're Eddie Herne and Jake

Paul team up with Netflix to create ongoing MMA organization that tries to compete with the UFC

should Ronda versus Karano do good numbers. No, it would be a very big mistake.

The UFC versus Netflix is a fun topic right now as long as you don't dig into it.

Like Netflix card is awesome in the spirit of fun. The matches don't mean anything. They're not

personal grudges. They're not ranking matches. They're not title fight. They're not matches that

the winner draws into fill in the blank. They're fun. And you don't get to have a lot of fun in MMA.

So I will tell you I love it. I love it in terms of it being fun. Now I was very proud of the UFC.

Eril Awani had done an entire segment on this and he said, what's the UFC doing? They're not

bringing us the matches we want. They had an opportunity to bring us Ronda and Gina. And they

passed on it. And I would have been so disappointed in the brand had they put that fight on.

If the UFC sell this is a unique night. So we're going to do a unique fight.

We've always been about the best fighting the best. We've always been about champions and future

champions. The moment you show you are not going to be a champion at least in theory you no

longer have a place in the UFC. That theory that belief is very important to the brand.

So you're going to bring brought Ronda in. Ronda didn't leave the sport because she wanted to

or she didn't leave the organization because she wanted to. She's made that very clear even in

this media tour that she's calling them back because she wants to go back. The organization's

looking to go. You got you got flat lined multiple time. These girls ran out of here and these

girls today are better. You're also talking about a weight class that we don't contend anymore.

And you're talking about an opponent that never competed here. That is a huge not to mention

a very ridiculous ask like if the UFC would have done that it would have been very disappointed.

Where are you going to put them? You're going to come in a venom if you're going to come in a venom.

What's the point? What would possibly be a point for bringing in an attraction or a fun match for

a a come in or less? So now you're going to headline them. You're going to headline a gal that was

never in the UFC versus a gal that got flat lined and carried out of the UFC. At a weight class you

no longer contend. What does that do to the morale? What does that send to a message to the whole

rest of the locker room that's making the trip and making the roads? Making the towns has a dream

still is aspiring is not famous is not rich is trying and fairness to be both like I mean what kind

of a message does it do? I was very proud of the UFC for sticking to the brand promise no matter

what no matter what fun you can have it and there is a truth like that is going to swing. Ronda can

get mainstream attention. Gina can get mainstream attention. Diaz and Perry is fun.

Francis has a place. This specific opponent, you know, maybe there's not a lot on that fight but

there's something interesting there when Francis walks in the room and I would show the same

respect as a opponent if he does something in his media tour and kind of lets us know why this

fights important to him but I don't dispute that there's something there but there's something

there that's fun and if you're not doing something sustainable if you're not doing something that

needs to make money tonight if you're not doing something that needs to tell a story for tomorrow

you're just looking at tonight it's straight up checkers. You can have a lot of fun

and I feel in that regard I think that Jake Paul has nailed it. All right Justin Bash

thank you very much. He asked me favorite storyline of the NCAAs

and two Bosch in the brain over at Bosch in Mania. Thank you guys for your effort this week.

It's been tremendous to get a show each day. My favorite storyline is definitely 133 pounds.

Definitely. I think that Jack's forest is more likely to win the NCAA this year than he is his

junior year. How do you like that? And how do you get that conclusion when the top four guys

are all freshmen? Oh well I actually get to the conclusion because all four guys are freshmen.

I think that Jack's has a style that once you feel it you can get a little closer the next time

and if you feel it again you can get a little bit closer now. There's a big gap.

Jack's is beating people by 15 point. He's beating them by 15 points with several minutes still left

on the clock. It is an incredible guy who could get closer and still lose by eight or nine but

I'm only shared with you I feel like and I feel like there's so much

credit that's owed to David Taylor for this. David Taylor has brought us the best two storylines

in the last two NCAAs. Why it? Right and I know that was in hindsight. We didn't see that coming.

We did not all look forward to Wyatt versus Gable. We didn't know that was a possibility.

Oh and the NCAA tournament was done. That's who we looked to and so you got Wyatt and then

you've got Jack's and was David even going to wrestle him. They kept this very quiet.

Jack's was a senior in high school last year. I do not mean last school year. I mean last year

is in December 31st nine weeks and four days ago. During the Christmas break they graduate him

they enroll him they get him to still water and they put him in a cowboy singlet. It was incredible.

And yeah 133 really is a fascinating thing. Jack's Forest makes the senior world team taking out

veto in two straight. Jack's Forest did not make an age group world team because Marcus

Blaze took him out two straight. Many are saying that DeVivo is the monster under the closet.

Many say that Aaron Sidel is going to win the whole thing and the bracket has played exactly

how we thought it was going to exactly how it was seated. And that's with how to even

mentioning a two-time runner-up in Drake and the defending champion in Lucas Bird.

So I just think that that has a very hard one to get around in terms of interest.

PJ Duke has a lot of pressure on him. I think that 184 is open. I think that Josh

Barr's dominance was a surprise. I don't think any of us knew that Josh Barr couldn't be scored

on. He's a little undersized for the weight class and he was hurt two months ago. He wasn't even

in the lineup because he was injured. And then you've got heavyweight which is usually a very boring

weight class and it just hasn't been. It just hasn't been for a decade and it's not specifically

this year. So my favorite storyline, I just laid out a few of them for you.

I'll tell you the least interesting thing. The absolute least interesting thing to the point

that I don't know how much it should be covered. And this will be a hot take for media but

it doesn't make it any less true. The least interesting thing in wrestling and this is

as a lifelong wrestler is the team race. I would just share with you there was nobody that cares

about the team race. There was nobody that has ever cared about the team race. That is make believe.

And I don't say that to be a jerk by the way. I say that as a wrestler. I was a wrestler and

we're at the University of Oregon. We got rank number 10. And that was a very big deal. And now

that I'm older and I do coach and team races do matter to me. Because I was a coach, I will look

back and go, Oh yeah, that team race is a real thing. But there is nobody on any team that cares

about the team race. That is a hundred percent pretend. Anybody that comes out and go,

oh, this is a school and we're going to win it as a team. That's pretend. They're trying to

lick the coach's boots. There is not one wrestler, not only not only in today's field and this is

a literal standpoint. By the way, Justin, this is a literal statement. There is not one wrestler

literally that cares about the team race. There hasn't been one wrestler in history that I could

cite for you. That cares about the team race. It's make believe. And my point of bringing that up is

is media will so often time go, Hey, how come we can't get on front page? Now there's even a talk

is pin state so dominant that it hurts wrestler. No, it doesn't make a bit of different.

There is nobody that cares about the team right. It is the ultimate individual sport.

And the reason I share that for you, if I was to go through the story lines, we've got a very

competitive hunt for two, three, four and five. Very competitive. And some of the great

interest in all of NCAA strategy wise is for who's going to come in two, three and four in this

tournament. And it's not not being talked about because it's not number one and nobody cares about

nobody cares about any of them. There is no, but there's not an AD that cares about that's

it's that's this is make believe. And even the coaches that are now and it's about the team and I

hear these coaches, but but they're losing side. Those coaches were once athletes. And when they

were athletes, they did not care about the team race. No one does. And so I'll bring that to you

as my my hot storyline number two. Hot storyline number two is the waste of time that we spend

talking about a team race that absolutely nobody aside from the sitting current coaching staff

care about. All right. What has been some of the more interesting things that you've seen

at this year's NCAA tournament? This is from Micah. Micah Vendoki. I'm sure I'm screwing your name

up. It's a very cool name. Well, there's a few things that I find interesting and it's largely

guys that have been dismissed. It's tough to know what you're looking at at the NCAA tournament.

I've never witnessed a sporting event that falls apart more or that that that that changes more

than the NCAA wrestling. There was a period of time. I'm going back

to the 90s, late 80s to 90s, but there was a period of time where in a 13 year stretch,

11 of those years, the number one seed had gone down in the very first round.

And so it's just it's it's tough to know what you're you're looking for. You're looking for

returning all Americans. Are you looking for guys that have wanted that tournament before?

Are you looking for younger guys that are naive and don't know what they don't know?

It's a very long season and whoever can have the fewest matches is at a much better spot.

And in other sports, people will believe that experience is helpful and it's not in wrestling.

It's not. When you put 34 matches together and that means 23 weigh-ins,

it's long. If you can find a way, if you can come in mid season, you can find a way to take a break.

If you can come up with a shoulder injury and get a couple of weeks off, those are the guys

that come out and then they wow, he really surprised us. He missed a couple of matches earlier.

This is not the same thing every year. The guy with the fewest matches regardless if he won

them or lost them. The guy with the fewer matches of the season always has an advantage

in the incibly tournament. All right, Goose says both in your prime, who'd want to fight?

Between you and John Jones, plus, do you think Carolina should be cut after two days,

huge weight mess? Should Carolina be cut? I don't know what you're talking about, Goose.

Who would win between me and John in our primes? Well, we fought and I ripped his toe off.

So, I guess me be interesting. John Jones, I don't know if there's anything I'd pick against him

at and come back. If he was doing it, you'd just do match. I don't know that I'd pick against him.

Are you get these guys that go over and then they want a box and do things like this and John's

never really called for that. But if he did,

I don't know if I would pick against him. He is a very rare talent.

But one thing about John, one place where I beat John, I beat John by the standard that we live

under, which is a forfeiture clause. John is a wrestler, I'm a wrestler. And John forfeited.

We were going to do a match on seven days notice. And he said no. And

my willingness was definitely more than John's, but skill wise. I think that would be make

believe to pretend that even on your best day, you were better than an average day John, John.

He really, if we're being fair, Goose, he really is a very special talent.

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All right, Aaron asked, does Chuck Norris dine make you question your own mortality? No.

No, it doesn't. That's interesting. Now that you've brought it up, I will probably dwell on that

for the rest of the day. All right, MMA Kay says, is this new show you have now on YouTube?

So MMA Kay, I don't know what you're talking about for sure, but I believe you were referencing

undefeated, undisputed, that Ian Parker and I are doing, and yes, you can find that on YouTube.

Tanya, what's up, Tanya? You were always so loyal.

Why do you hate basketball? All right, I don't hate basketball.

Not at all. I think what you're referencing is a tweet that I put out to Scotty Pippin.

So getting these confidence posts, getting these positivity posts,

from somebody like Scotty Pippin, I don't believe that Scotty Pippin has a Twitter account.

I don't believe that he knows it's now called X. I don't believe that he logs in and does it.

I don't believe that he speaks the way that he puts out, and that is annoying for me.

I mean, just right on his face, that's annoying. Let's say I'm wrong, and it is Scotty Pippin. He

saying it is, he wants you to believe it is. So even if you hire somebody to speak for you,

you're still responsible for the stupid things that they say. So Scotty comes out with these

hurrah talks, but they always come from a high handed approach as though he's giving advice to you.

I was like, hey, Sky, time out, bro. Let's be real fair. Okay. You're not a success.

I'm not trying to be a dick about it. You're not a success. You play the game.

And the moment that the average prime for said game was up, you were up.

But now you've got fame and you've got money. You're in a position that for whatever you

want to actually do, whatever contribution you want to actually make, which means you provide a

good and or a service. You want to find out if you're a success or not? Take a risk,

build a team, take it to the marketplace, and see if you can sell it out of profit.

If you can, and if you have tough times, and if you make it through the storm,

then you can come out the other side and start telling people, the hurrah talk.

When you were a millionaire, playing a game in all fairness, when you're a millionaire,

playing a game, you don't really have bad days. You don't really deal with those adversities.

And with all of that said, it's got to be blue at all.

I mean, he is not the guy that you would turn to for financial advice.

He is not the guy that started a business. He is not the guy that has led men. He has done none of

those things. He played a game and somebody else handed him a really big check to do it.

And he found a way to blow it all. So I'm not being a dick about it.

I'm sharing for you that when he comes out with these hurrah, you know, grab yourself and

pick yourself up. This is a guy that was in tears and court suing somebody else and one.

He beat somebody in court for millions of dollars. He took millions of dollars that somebody

else had earned in a legal suit. And he was in tears. He was so happy that he won not because he

was agreed because he was broke. I don't tease somebody for having financial hardships.

What I share with you is don't come out and preach to the world as though you know what it's like

to lift yourself up when your highest achievement was playing a game at 18 and 25 and 32.

That's not an achievement. Eric says you have seen London, Melissa Molen's 136 pounds terrible

wake up and made weight. Oh, Luna Carolina 144 pounds missed weight by eight pounds. Didn't even

tried. You think the US she should cut Carolina for the eight pound miss. Eric, I really appreciate

how you said this up. I had a question a few minutes ago asking about Carolina. We were also a

few minutes ago talking about the NCAA tournament. I assumed somebody from the University of

North Carolina had missed weight. So I had this whole thing wrong. All right. Now I get it. I hadn't

seen this. Luna Carolina missed weight by eight pounds. Do I think that she should be cut with a

loss? I can predict for you. She will be cut. If you lose three times in the UC, this is a broad

stroke. It's not an absolute. But if you lose three times in the UC, you're going to get released.

If you lose three times, you're definitely eligible for release and just so you understand

a wake up counts as a loss. So say you're coming off a loss. You miss weight and you lose boom,

two, three, and you're out. And it doesn't it doesn't have to be that way. I'm not cheering against

Carolina. I don't know what her circumstances is. I have a very little compassion for somebody

who misses weight. I have never in in my life met more fake tough guys than I have an MMA.

The biggest wimps when I walk into a room is when I walk into an MMA locker room. The biggest

group of wimps that I know are those guys. How you can be called to work three times a year

and not make weight. How you can do that, I don't understand. And should you be allowed to fight

when you miss weight by eight pounds, I put you into a whole nother weight class, one that isn't even

contested. I mean, these are these are very real concerns. On the other hand, I must share with

you, I don't have any information that happened here. And I'm never in the habit of kicking somebody

when they're down. If somebody's down, I would like to offer them a a hand up. But it's very

hard to celebrate. Carolina goes out and gets a win and you're telling me she missed weight by eight

pounds, which isn't even close. What does that represent? Five percent of body weight of the top

of my head? We're supposed to celebrate that. It puts us in a tough position, doesn't it? All right,

final question. Uncle Chale, watching the NCAA championships and I'm curious, why do some elite

wrestlers fail in MMA while others dominate? So there's two things. There's two things that happen.

And there's one thing that if you're ever recruiting wrestlers to come over to fighting that you

must see in their wrestling from a technical standpoint, not very many techniques in wrestling,

working MMA anymore. At least not from a domination standpoint. It used to be come out and tackle

a guy. You get into it over under and you're going to clench and go into an inside trip. And he's

never seen him before you stepping down his front headlock is I mean, I know what to do. It used to

be like that. Now there, there's really just a double egg. And I do get where that's a broad

stroke, but really it's just a double egg. And the reason that's so relevant that you understand

is it's one of the reasons that wrestlers are getting shut down so much is defensively you don't have

to be a state national world or Olympic champion. You don't have to be any of those things. You

just have to be able to stop a double egg. You don't what somebody would put years into mastering

1000 different skills. You could put months into defending one. And in other countries,

they are not encouraged to hold a guy down or to get off the bottom.

In international wrestling, you can stay down or you can stay on top roughly 20 seconds and

the referee will bring you up. And that right there doesn't really sound right. Does it

roughly 20 seconds? That's actually what the rule is. You'll stay down and the referee just kind

of in his mind is kind of looking for about 20 seconds and he'll just bring you up. And that's the

way it is. Sometimes that's four seconds and sometimes that's 40 seconds and it's about 20 seconds

like that's actually what the rule says. You see the problem right away. Secondly,

if you're ever recruiting a wrestler, it's all in the shot. If a wrestler and you want to

bring him over MMA, if he wants to bring his wrestling skills, he thinks he will transfer to MMA.

I'll tell you the ones that will and the ones that won't right away. When you shoot, do you shoot

through your opponent? What that means is when you change elevation and you shoot,

when you hit your opponent, does he stumble backwards? Does he take a step backwards?

One, two, three, whether he falls down or he defends it, did you knock him backwards?

Secondly, would be you shoot to your opponent, which means if his feet are planted,

when you shoot and you get to the leg, his feet are in the same spot. You did not knock him

backwards. You're now resting around him and you're coming around him and you're ready to get

on the man you're coming underneath and does not work in MMA. It's a very relevant

and very good trick. If you ever want to have the eye, if you're watching a wrestler,

when he shoots, does he knock his opponent backward? If he does, he can bring that over to MMA,

if he shoots to the opponent. You're not going to have any luck with him.

All right, I've had it with you all. Thank you for listening. Enjoy your weekends,

enjoy the UFC, enjoy the NCAA, make sure you're back here on Tuesday until then I'm

Shale Sun and you are welcome.

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