Austin Rivers on the Duke Scare, Plus the SGA vs. Luka Debate & Giannis at Odds with the Bucks

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Austin Rivers joins us again from NBC Peacock's coverage of the NBA. It's been fantastic. We've

talked about it a bunch of season. We've had a bunch of the guys on but the oddity of this taping

was I was like hey you want to do it after the due game before the due game and it's like you

had a million things going on. It's like all right look at Sienna. As we are just starting to tape

this game went to halftime in the 16th seed. Sienna is now leading Duke 43 to 32. This probably

brings back some terrible memories for you. That's the way we're starting off. I mean yeah it's

all right man. Yeah it does. Yeah I like seeing brown jerseys right now running around it's

awful. And for those that forget 2005 and Sienna. Sienna it was a two 15 game.

CJ McCollum went for 30. I don't know if you gave Seth Curry shit for his shooting performance

in that one. No one really shot at that great for you guys that day. But I'm actually again

take it where you want on this one because it's probably you know it's a tough one.

Yeah no it is it's you know it's it's crazy the dynamic is you know you're the better team and

if we played Lehigh 10 times we'd beat him 9 out of 10 but the you know this is why people love

March Menace. The reality is all it takes is one game and if it seems confident again we're talking

division one basketball players at dinner today you know these aren't guys that just learn how to play

they might be a small college but as we've seen in the NBA some of the best stars have come from

small programs you know guys can still play ball so you know you go against the team like Lehigh

and what happens when you know you take a team lightly or when you come in with you know the

not correct mindset if your team is not fully together guys have different agendas whatever

it's too late to turn it on what's the game's gone you know and that's what happens and then

you find yourself in a ball game and once you play against guys you have confidence you can't

turn it off I'm already seeing it right now or Sienna these guys are cutting moving drive into

the basket they're living in the paint going against a top tier defensive duke team and they're

living in the paint backdoring they're playing confidence stick it out their tongue you see you see

this shit when when did you know you were a trouble against Sienna I remember where I was because I

mean back then everybody's just rooting against Duke anyway so we were all to jam and guys just

stopped and it was like the one TV that was up and everybody's just talking about where's Lehigh

yeah I'm just wondering when you guys were like going into timeout because you had to lead at

the half but I imagine it's still a little alarming it was only a two point game I knew it was

going to be a ball game two minutes into the game three minutes into the game because I already

heard I've already seen film even at that time I've already watched the CJ and you know before

the tournament game you know you do your due diligence your research you watch some film to the team

and then I could tell in the warmups with how they were looking and smiling and they were you

know not in their head like we wanted this game anytime you go against somebody like that who's

that confident you know like already you're gonna play now I knew our team was much better so I'm

like man we better beat you up our 20 three minutes into that game when I'm we're it's back and

forth already I'm like oh this is this is going to be one of those games you could just feel it

and I thought all right well we're just going to go the distance and beat them in the end we're

up to it half time and then it just when it went south the second half I was like oh this isn't good

you know you could just feel the moment I'm just slipping away I'm hoping you know down 10

or not what are they nine 10 right now I think it's 11 it's 43 32 yeah it's 43 32 we're down 11

you know the concern is very high right now I'm not saying we're gonna lose the game I only the

only reason I still have confidence in this dupe team is because of how elite they can be on

defense which has not shown has not shown so far and I don't know if it's a defensive issue it's

more than our offense which is a hundredth thing I you know it's the lack of guard scoring and

playmaking you know it's been the Achilles heel so now you ask well who we have to put just

though the ball to be like hey please just bail us out other than a big man you know what I mean

like who does so much for us but like you know we don't have Kinepple Cooper or some elite guard

out there they can be like hey man things aren't going right now shit's going south and we need

you to just bail us out you know what I mean like we don't we don't have that so I am concerned

right now but I'm hoping our defense I'm hoping our defense can just step it up like how we

bit a top two defensive program all year long and like kind of slow them down and then we can just

grid our way back you know we have we have a gritty offense we just kind of we some guy who hit a

shot or two and then we camera just gets us a foul line and he just we we just crawl our way back

that's the only way they're winning this game we don't have a guy that's going to just go get

20 in this half it's not happening you know what I mean so it's like we it's that's not what

this team is we have good all around solid guards who play hard and can make some plays and

you know can make a shot here and there we don't have a top kick guard that's you know just

gonna go get it done for us so we got to get out the mud down 11 is very concerned well we'll

have a score update as we navigate to the NBA and we'll get you out of here in time to watch the

end especially if it's tight there uh you know I was curious how LA was gonna handle the Houston

Rockets um I'm not high in the Rockets anymore this offense I cannot watch in the fourth quarter

and yet you're at their place twice over three days you know you're thinking like hey if

Houston's anything they got to get the second one they got to split these things and that

doesn't happen uh in the first game I think I counted 10 double teams on Kevin Durant in the fourth

quarter and I cannot even though I think e-mails a terrific coach I can't believe the Houston would

just let him walk in to a double team and then have no plan or maybe have somebody else bring up

the ball and then bring Kevin off of some stuff and so clearly like they were a little bit more

ready for where you're seeing it all the time teams late the game hey we're just gonna double Kevin

and we don't care about any of the other guys I don't care what the three point shooting numbers

are we just don't care and shingoo didn't play in the first game but I guess it's it's one it's a

credit to the Lakers defensively something that we think is probably a flaw with them as we map

them out for the playoffs but yeah I just wonder how when you're watching that happen how frustrated

maybe you get that it feels like hey why would you be this predictable when it's clearly not working

the Lakers are prepared for it as far as Houston goes I do think it's a it's a gift and a curse

with Katie's brilliance and offense sometimes and the way he's able to just bail you out with tough

shot making ability right when you play against elite teams to sustain that to make tough shot or tough

shot it's very hard to win that way all right and what you're seeing on the flip side would be like

what you saw from the Lakers early on this season when and I say very early you know kind of

they had a spell where they went through this I went because they they've had some good spurts

even early but uh there was a time where like Luca would just try to just will them with wins

just off his greatness um what you've seen is a flip which I've touched on the Lakers a little bit

but with Houston I I've seen this with a lot of Kevin's teams do you don't know saying

and um this happened with Phoenix that it some of their games it was like weird down the stretch

and you were like wondering how is this happening because you have Devon and Kevin who are both

both terrific closers um and our clutch players so it's a dynamic where things just get stagnant

and then the lack of shooting to be completely honest around him you know with the exception of

Reed they don't have elite just not down shooters around him so it gets choppy out there um

so yeah it's it's it is hard to watch and it's you know sometimes it's like man they need

to figure out ways to get movement even if it's that with Katie not having the ball in his hands

but then you're like well wait we're not gonna have Kevin with the ball in his hands like

like that doesn't make sense so it's it's it's not easy to to consistently get something

with them just from what I've seen offensively whereas the Lakers right now have two guys who are

closing games between shep uh between uh Luca and in Reeves and you have a LeBron James

who underratedly I say this has bought in to being like a third option he's but that that

lob last night or him cutting baseline he's he's turned onto a like you know what I can air

and gourd in my way on the way that's how great he is at his age he can now turn into like an

air gourd and type of role before he's a superstar he's still averaging I know great numbers

but that's what he's now doing he's cutting slot driving get the ball in his hands

move around the ball being a little bit more tactical when he gets it a little bit more quick

decision straight line driver like if he can buy into that and be like yeah we're gonna play

through Luke and Reeves these are our guys and I'm gonna be a guy who can still have my moments

because I'm LeBron James even though I'm at 40 whatever years old but I'm gonna be more this role

they're much better and they they did that last night on the stretch and then you have a guy

like Luca so it's like that is simplified whereas Kevin it's like hey here here Kevin

we're waiting but they're not really guarding me they're just sitting there because I'm not

I'm not a knockout shooter it's it doesn't look good so it's it's hard to win like that and I don't

that's why people they've had trouble being San Antonio they have trouble being okay see all the

elite teams they've had trouble closing unless Kevin just come to God just bail them out through his

greatness asking him to do it and I've seen it live now too asking him to do it and catch it and

it's 30 plus feet away from the hoop and two defenders are on him just sitting there it's just

you're asking a ton of him like you can be a Kevin Durant detractor whatever but I'm like look

I see these possessions I'm like why the fuck can't you help the sky out like why can't you bring

why can't you put them on the block have them run up to one screen have them curl on a second screen

like why can't you have him coming off of something to catch why are you just letting him dribble

across half court and I granted like the back court in the first game on Monday or like do

what are you doing but and then he starts to get real frustrated like you can see all the stuff

in the court where he's like you know and then he gets it away and then they mess up the four on

three then he's pissed because then he thinks he gave the ball up so I would just say like

of all the people that don't like Durant it all goes back to like a decision 10 years ago fine

but you have to be a little fair with how much harder they seem to be making it on him

because this isn't going to work and it hasn't worked all season the fourth quarter stuff the

clutch stuff have been over it and that's why like look LAs on a roll Denver's disciplining

Minnesota's disappointing ants out and all the stuff Phoenix you know with Brooks back we'll see

Mark Williams the same thing because they're missing some guys but I think I like Houston the least

out of like seven of these teams it's tough man because talent wise on paper you look at

these names on their roster and you're like man this is such an elite team and then you go to their

coach email you don't is one of the best you know coaches in basketball so it's like they have all

the the dots now like every team they have their weaknesses shooting is just one of them around

Kevin in the way they're closing games that is very problematic because you're asking him to make

these plays like you just alluded to to like shoot over two almost he gets to a spot and he does

because he's Kevin Durant and he's one of the greatest players to ever touch a basketball and he's

one of the greatest scores and shot makers of all time I'm a huge fan of Kevin the way they're

closing games right now I don't know if that's a preference of him saying yo e-mail wanted

from here because you know you said like did why don't they do a screen or a slot screen or why can't

he cut across the middle and get him lower to the basket where he's only a step away or two feet

or you know realistically five six feet away where he's writing his basket of middies and he could

just float shoot I don't know a dual action where they have read coming off so at least alleviate

some type of action going where there's some type of focus going where he can operate without all

this every time he takes two dribbles it reminds me of what the Timmer would sometimes turn into in

the playoffs or aunt just tries to take on like two or three guys he's all with okay see this guy

would go left when he would spin move Caruso sit right there with like his hands open it's just like

it didn't look good you know I mean so it's just that I don't know what that is if it's you know

so it it it is frustrating to watch because on paper and then at times you see them play a certain way

I don't know if read has to be more demanding with the ball in his hands you know I don't know if he

has that like Fred Fred would grab the ball I'm like hey oh yeah you've got two bad shots in a

row we're gonna get something good here dude do you understand what I'm saying yeah yeah I mean

look there that's that's that's that's something we're read as a young guard who's still trying to

tap establish himself has to be at some point like let's calm down Kevin and we're gonna run this

play we're gonna get it to you but we got to do it this way because this way's not working I don't

know if that's happening out there yeah I don't know I think it's a lot to ask a read who I

didn't think he may liked the first half of the season um right but he said there's the best

option because they get a space it out and like you know they they still I think they have some real

flaws and like what they're closing line up can be because it's like I would actually ignore

these two guys everything condenses down that spurs Houston game like the rants get swarmed by three

guys because just two a man and and shingoon depending on where they're positioned their defenders are

like we don't even care about you guys you know like we don't care and if you want to tell me that

Tara Eason from three is this like go ahead make three of those and then maybe we'll change up

what we're gonna go ahead and do I want to pivot though to Luke because we started talking about it

we had like a really good mail back question on the 10 good minutes NBA thing that we do here was

like when did Shay surpass Luca and with this run from the Lakers the momentum there's some people

be like hey you know what like are you sure about that right and I'd said I think the general yeah

the general conversations basically like once Luca gets through 24 and is in an NBA finals like

nobody's saying that Shay is necessarily better than him even though the Shay stretched started

three years ago and then the last two years statistically are off the charts I would say on

the advanced stuff it's still heavily favors SGA in comparison to Luca I would say

I'd rather have SGA because I know where his floor is his floor is still so much higher than

everybody else's where Luca can have a game every now and then where it just completely gets away

from him but I'll ask it to you this way not specific to a defensive matchup for you and your

abilities but overall like as a team if there's another guy the game is tied and you can pick Luca

you can pick SGA you pick anybody else in the league but like how many people are you actually

taking ahead of Luca in that spot game tied shot clock off 10 seconds to work and you get a good look

the only other guy would be Shay that's what's those two for you it's those two at the top and I

think there's a there's a gap and then there's some other guys then you throw in like there's a

loop so you have those two then there's a gap and then at the end of the game you throw in like an

ant you throw in a Cape cutting him the way he's been able to control games Jalen Brunson for the

next is a big shot maker um you know Tyrese Maxi there's some guards in that that that group but

I can't put those guys in the same group and Shay and Luca it's just not and honestly what Shay's

done over the past few weeks I know Lucas having to run right now I just called that Denver game

he was unbelievable man and I you don't appreciate it because his game is boring sometimes because

he lives I'm assuming like that Minnesota game I'm like he's got what like how many points and it

wasn't some free throw night either so keep going I just I want to emphasize that yeah that's

just like he's got 36 again what the fuck that's exactly the point I was going to make because I

was like I always hit the free throw merchant he's so boring to watch I hate watching a place I'm

calling this game and I'm watching this guy make and take the most unbelievable mid ranges Christian

Brown is right in his face just contested to like they're nothing he'd look over the bench and

smart like he wasn't even in like fifth gear he was in like just cruise in regular season like

it's a good fun game for regular like that's how he was playing and he just took over the game

what he needed to he's unbelievable and he was like totally on him he kind of backs it up a little

bit he goes for 40 and yeah I mean I know he took a million shots in that game but like they kind

of needed him too because that the Orlando was up for the fight after their disaster against Atlanta

before and I'm going yeah like I'm not a big three they're like oh he's got 36 and he ended up

a 40 I was like damn was that just the most unassuming 40 spot you're you're going to see from a guy

the league where Lucas it'll be a stretch of three threes in a row it's an an one and he's taking

over this four minute thing it feels more dramatic I wonder if this jay were just more demonstrative

like and like an ant or like some of these other perimeter guys that there would be more appreciation

for him but he's 100% yeah 100% some of his game is not sexy for the eye and because of that we

get lost and lose his brilliance and what he's doing first off he dominates games through the mid-range

which is a lost art like just people just don't do it he does it especially late game and he has a

steady diet of it between every quarter he has a steady diet of those shots he finishes at the

basket at well and knows how to get fouled and Denver double team the shit out of him in the

second game he ends up with 15 assists yeah that's great so you know there's only a handful of

guards in the NBA that make that in my opinion adjustment who are guys who score 30 every night and

if the guy team is really going over the top to take away driving lanes and ISO opportunities

he will find and make the right play Kate cutting him's another guy who I have up there he's

headed that way Kate cutting him is the best American guard I think in in in the NBA that's that's

my opinion and I think he's better than I am I think he's a better playmaker than I am yeah well

I think and and and it's more electrifying you know what I mean and and and has these characteristics

about him just as a personality that make him exciting and his scoring ability is unbelievable too

I don't think Kate can score like and it shoots the ball from three like a mid-range

Kate can't do that yet but Kate has a smooth operating way about him uh and just what he's

doing right now in Detroit on a team that again lack shooting they have Duncan Robinson bro

after side of that they don't have any shooting this guy figures out ways to get in

generate good office every night and close games well they don't seem to want to play

her doing Duncan together which no they don't I'm not saying hey what a huge mistake

but it's pretty clear um that that's that's just a combo they don't want to do although I've

been tracking all the minutes all that much lately and the Knews absolutely sucks with this long

situation because yeah that that's scary man like you get a shit you're like what the hell you

know especially to someone like that is young and obviously takes care of himself it's like wow

yeah uh how much hope do you still have for Denver figuring this out on the fly before the

class start uh I I can never count Denver out because they have the they have the best player in the NBA

so you still think like do you hear top five let's just do your top five right now it's still

yoke itch Nicole is one at a respect I have to put shade two I'd put Luca three um I put win

before for what he does just on both sides of the basketball what he does defensively it's just

insane um and then five right now this year has been jaylen brown um if you want to get honest

like just the inherited hey it's still yannis and when he's right there aren't five players better

than him that's a fair point that's what I would do is it but I would I would put I would put

I yeah I'm going on this season if we're going off overall yeah yannis would be

I mean honestly yannis could be two three four you could put him in any of those I mean he could

be the second best player I no one's been in a cold in my opinion but yannis has a right to be like

you know awesome I'm second I'd like yeah you are and you know to be like you could put yannis

anywhere in there too I guess yeah but for this year the jaylen brown point you know like I get

what you're saying because I like jaylen brown has done is I think jaylen brown is to pass what I

think we all thought he was I think we all knew he could score and he was obviously you know

defensively capable he's an elite athlete but what he's been able to do just

efficiently with the lack of players they've been available whether they you know I he's been

he's been a superstar so I put him in there um he's been a modern day koaya like player um you

know he's taking that mold of being a two-way player and being complete with that being said

maybe winby's out I don't I hate putting winby 9 to top five he's just what spurs are what he

does on both sides of the ball I guess it was a jaylen brown is that what you're saying you see the

guy out of there maybe Shay and Luke are in there Nicole is in there I would put yannis in there

you have to you're right that's four the fifth spots winby are brown for me and then right after

that I go Kate in but that's the five you know I I think yeah whenby is like I don't know where

that I mean this thing could end up being like I think number two isn't play number one could

be in play next year for him um I'm going to go live again against the clippers and it's just

it's stupid and I'll share I share it with the audience but like I went back to watch the second

half of the Charlotte game now because there were moments there were that still was the game there

for Charlotte and they had had you know a bit of a tough stretch on once they got that road trip

started after kind of running through a bunch of teams and awesome when it gets Boston so whenever

I watch a winby game I'm like I just want to see what the other team is like willing to do and

the body had an attempt that was just packed back to him and then all it felt like he wanted to do

is bad as the shot attempt to be he just wanted to get it off and it almost like hit the top of

the backboard and it almost felt like a win because whenby didn't block it then blind and so then

I was tracking their like decisions with the ball in the second half and I counted in the 14 plus

minutes that whenby played in the second half when he was in there was 25 times that I felt like

their decision was impacted just by him being there so whether it was a block or turning down a shot

passing and then Grant Williams had one where he you turned he just drives as like no

I don't want you that yeah thank you for being a tied up ball and you just like there's no one

else in the league that is even in that category forget the points where you've got 25 like guy

with ball decisions that are impacted solely by his presence and so there's just a different way

like sure he's never going to get shot off the way Aluka is the way even an aunt Kate obviously

SGA Yoke 2020 wants to take attempts and plenty of other perimeter guys that we want to think

about but there's just I don't know how there's anyone even close to getting that many people to

rethink that they want to do it just changes everything for that he's he's Rudy go bear on acid

like that was prime Rudy effect right good people with people well that's the thing right like

Rudy's one what three four four depends yeah I think it's four four he's think it's all time or

some shit are you tied like matambo or something crazy I don't know he's up there right he's like

him and Ben Wallace and like something else but like he's considered one of the greatest

defensive biggs of all time and his numbers and awards point that you got four defensive player

of the years you are automatically in the conversation for greatest of all time defensive player people

laugh and scoff at that because Rudy has these blatant plays where he gets across because he has

heavy feet that are slow so he can look silly and goofy and Luka hit a game three on him or you

know and people target him in the pick and roll and they're like how can you be a great defensive

player if you get target in the pick and roll it's it's the Rudy effect on defense every team

you place for us top tier defense they're always one of the top defensive teams when you go to the

paint even if he's not there you think about if Rudy prime Rudy you think about if he's in the

bathroom so guys with mislabs shoot high contested floaters he've affected shots and change shots

shots that he didn't get credit or block for he altered the effect of the him being the anchor

his teams are always one two or three in defense that's why he won four awards the overall

effect he has this is what it when B is doing but on a different level because he doesn't have

slow feet he has quick hands he has guard like ability and skills i've never seen the coordination

with this type of length it's just never happened so he's that play he have a garland

where garland i mean shook him four times and just couldn't get away this guy was separated

one time he got five feet of separation but because of when he's so long he put his arms out

he still can get a shot off and then he tries to go shoot a quick floater after blowing by him when

he just takes it out of the air it's not natural he is a freak of nature he's unbelievable when you

watch him live you're like that's not real i noticed times where he's on what would be the wrong

block depending on what's coming down from like a high pick roll with everybody else and they're

trying to get him away on however he's defensively aligned like hey can we get him to a corner

and there'll be times i'm like i think he's for everyone else in the league he'd be on the wrong side

but what he's actually doing is he staying in the play if they were to throw it to the corner for

a three and he's shutting that down just by his presence and then he can still make up the ground

getting across the pain if you go the other way in a way that nobody else can do it so yeah that's

what i said the coordination yeah he just has yeah i'm gonna use i feel like i interrupted your

Denver thought though because we started going top five which i did appreciate there because

look they desperately need Watson back is any other guy to relieve Christian Brown of having to play

against sga and then luca as the like a 30 plus minute defensive assignment it's just not gonna work

for literally anybody and not that i like you know i don't really like a slight like the long slight

guys against luca i actually think you're doing him a favor because he's gonna bump you so much

with all that stuff yeah with this lakers run and i think the lebron point that you've made is

perfect because a guy with his resume normally would not be willing to like concede certain things

and you know look he says fine it finally happened at age 41 where his body doesn't look as crisp as

it should yeah for for what the vision that we have of lebron this is exactly how it should look

it should actually look worse for somebody that has this much mileage but it's still just alarming

in those moments where he looks a little old you know somebody gets a jab dribble on him and he

backs up and he's has to like get his balance again you're like this is so weird to see this this

all-time great look a little off balance is something because he just didn't see it for 20 years

yeah are you willing to pick LA against Denver against Houston against Minnesota in the first round

depending on who they go up against it depends on the consistency of the things that we've talked

about and i know that's like pretty vague but it's like can lebron continue to be this even when

playing this way things aren't going right is that when you step in and like all right it's my

turning it or are you double down on what you're doing right now in how you're playing can look

at be consistent enough with this role with with rebes can they can they share that ball without it

getting sticky and then lebron then gets frustrated because now he's not getting the ball at all

you know what i'm saying like how consistent can these three be in these new roles and i say

new because it's this the first time in my eyes we're all three of them have been on the court

and it's clear which each guy has to do and what they're doing and there's a freeness in that

which is allowing them to play well and free can that consistency be there when it's not working

because not everything's gonna work all the time the great teams are the ones who don't switch up

things when things don't go well like you could be up 15 versus the Warriors and prime the prime

Warriors and like they just come out kick your ass they didn't change anything they just

things shots didn't fall some assignments were missed it's part of basketball it's an

imperfect game but they're consistent who they are the spurs are the same way they did for years

they didn't change anything some years they won the finals some years they lose the Memphis first

round the playoffs they didn't change anything you know i'm saying like that so i it's what can they

what can they do what are they gonna do because there's gonna be a time to playoffs where they're

down a game in the series and it's second quarter and they're down 15 and Luca just hoisted up

a tough shot and it's an air ball and he's complaining to the rest because he got a foul he didn't

get fouled and then you you know what i'm talking about right yeah yeah so that's that's what the

question is with Lakers can they be consistent all the way through uh canate and he's had all these

quotes i bought in now i had to come to the mirror and see who i am and i i realized what i have to

do and give a hundred okay okay Deandre okay so you i've seen it the past couple games you've been great

i think he's been really good yeah he's been fantastic shout out to Deandre

a couple weeks super engaged the whole thing but again so these are all the way

any of us yeah okay that's what i'm saying it's all i'm saying yeah all of these new rules all these

guys are doing right now jj's got him locked in shout out the jj rhetoric as well let's i need to

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restrictions sponsor the Hershey company i'd rather ask this question without thecade injury

but with Tatum back getting his legs the totals have been terrific so it's not like he's putting up

these these duds from just a box score stand like you're like dude he's he's kind of

right back to where you'd expect him to be when he's fully healthy but whatever version of this

will be it'll be even better once you get a few more weeks into this uh

there's a press now yeah uh i've been so impressed with with jason say to man like for for one

obviously for him to even come back with like that level of an injury is scary um and you can

still see his legs and like how he moves is jumping like it's there uh his he's still building

back that muscle that that memory that trust so it's kind of scaring it's alarming like when you're

out there and you're watching him you're just like oh my god please man god take care of this kid um

for him to even have the rhythm of like coming off picking rolls yeah well right came off the

picking roll the day like got right into it i'm like god leave man this guy stores the keelies you

down you're just shooting threes at the very least i know we're not gonna get superstar Tatum and

that put that expectation on him is weird and on and it's just not right but if you can at least

he's a guy like you said you stretch the floor hit big shots you know i mean like he's still got

even 60% of Tatum is better than 90% of the NBA so it's like i i haven't amount there is it changes

things to a team that was already a surprise in terms of just how competitive they've been

a people people undervalued pain pressure i think they knew he's good they unvalued undervalued

under people undervalued Derek white uh i think he'll always know he's one of the better role players

don't think people understand he has star capability and this is why he is on us a teams etc etc

this team is a high level basketball club and they're very well coached so you add Tatum back

to the mix even if it's 60% of him he's still better than 95% of the NBA i said 90 it's probably 95

so it's a that's that team is scary in a white open east where i only look at Boston

New York and Detroit as like serious serious candidates and i that's that's white open

yeah i don't want to get in trouble here because your dad's the coach all right but i have some

in yana's thoughts i have some theories so you do yeah go ahead you need to do

oh man i'm good he said all sorts of things this year i think on one hand he clearly wants out

and then he says that he doesn't and it feels like a battle of semantics and maybe he's just a

free thinker and is like look i can't be this definitive about anything and now the news the

newest story is he goes up for a dunk recently you know he's he's such a specimen that you're like

is he hurt is he not hurt and then he said i'm not hurt he wanted to come back and play they

didn't want him to they want to shut him down for a bunch of different reasons i'm a little

surprised that he wouldn't want to be shut down considering he's looking at this massive extension

that could be on the table from either milwaki or if it's a new team um do you think he's he's

looking for reasons to get mad at milwaki because i don't really understand like i know we such a

competitor and that's my favorite thing about him is that maybe just loves to hoop man sometimes

we forget that but this seems like a lot over something that is pretty understandable that milwaki

would want to like want to close his mouth it's a good question i honestly i i i think it's

to your point of what you love about him um because listen it can't be you know and i understand

it's it's under you know people from people to think oh he's trying to find reasons to get

irritated and he just you know he wants to leave and he's you know this isn't that and

he's made it clear he wants to be there otherwise he wouldn't still be there or he would have

really forced something at the trade deadline or been a little bit more demonstrative in terms of

his interview's even more so than what he was um he's been there that long at this point in his

career if he's gonna make that change he would have or he'll make it this summer whatever the case

may be right at this point like you said it doesn't make sense for him to put his body in the line

for a team that's not going to go the distance and doesn't have a realistic shot of even competing

at any level really um uh in terms of playoff aspects uh it reminds me of just a competitive guy who's

unwilling to accept the inevitable defeat and he's been used to that team being the playoffs

doesn't matter if they are realistic chances of winning or not everybody that goes into the playoffs

thinks they can win you know what i mean it's just that that's just a delusion of what makes it

athletes great right he especially a guy who's won a title here who's been in the playoffs

damn near every year all right even if they don't even have a good roster just his greatness alone

usually just does the job it wills the team to the playoffs right uh this year that hasn't happened

so you know i did that interview with him for the Meyer for the game pod are not part of a show

with peacock and he he's over here like man i used to be a beast and i was like he used to be a

beast like oh man you start a beast you're an animal and he was just say yeah it's just a little

bit nuts saying and i was just like bro if i these are career numbers i never average anything and

it's never the matter are you talking about you know i'm just i'm looking at from my perspective

now you sit back at the landscape with the season is gone and is injuries and you know how he

doesn't pop back off the floor and how things are you know father time even LeBron like we see

it affects everyone everyone's are delayed yannis and people like LeBron are freaks they're able to

play for so long uh with with that type of level of dominance and athleticism but

it's happening and it's and it's it they're not making the playoffs because it you know it's not

because of him but he wasn't even able to get them there i think he's like i'm not shutting it down

i want to play i'm gonna play it through you guys aren't just gonna sit me down we're not

on that we're not a lottery team that's all like a competitive mindset you know that's how he's

wired it's a guy who goes to playoffs every year guys you know what i mean you know he want to

finals you know not too long ago you know so it's like i don't think him not making the playoffs like

something that's realistic especially when like a year ago a year and a half ago they got the

game trade and everything was so exciting and this is it i mean this is where his guys heads been

out and they they got you know griffin out they got docket and they're like are we're gonna win

however realistic or delusional that is that's that's what was being said okay so now to be here

and i remember speaking to him before the year and started no we did that interview right

when the year started people are underestimating us we have so much shooting i have all these shooters

around me we have five guys that's in the top 10 of percentage but but but but but but but but

he was i mean that's what it was okay so i'm telling you now months later they're not making the

playoffs and they're in like the 11th or 12th spot they're losing games by and then i like

hey we're gonna shut you down you think this guy is gonna be like cool i get it no problem

he's like fuck no i'm not sitting down i don't want to sit down on a plate you got under you don't

say like that's who he is and it doesn't make sense you're right it's not smart he doesn't have

an extension on the table i don't think he gives a fuck i think he wants to play yeah i think that's

the best answer because it's like it's the least sexy and it shoots down the conspiracy theory that

i'm sharing with like oh see just because sometimes when you like want to break up with somebody

you just start like overreacting about shit that doesn't even mean how you start finding it like

that's what i started thinking i was like i wonder if he's like i mean i can't believe you books

florida you know and you're like exactly i want to be like florida only the winner you know i

hear you i got it yeah it's it's not a bad theory right i can't hop on that that that that boat

i can't hop on that boat i like it i like the pushback because i was i'm exploring the theory

i'm not married to it i'm exploring it and i think you i hope you're right i think you convinced

look you convinced me and i think you should convince a lot of listeners that sometimes this stuff

is real simple like when you see somebody and again my favorite thing it's like those in bead

games and imbeid used to play i used to love those games because you're on a super like

hey i don't know how it's gonna go tonight but i'm gonna try to make you think you're not at my

level for the entire game and i i just loved those games and you're like that's what that dude is

about and maybe it's he's not looking at the extension he's like i'll probably get it anyway

maybe i don't care about it yeah he doesn't care about new graphics yeah right he's like he's

pretty black and white with him you ever talked to him he's just like i want to win he wants to win

and now he's not going to play ops and like sit down he's like sit sit sit down tell me to sit

out i'm not sitting down i'm about to weigh the numbers this year some of the other numbers for him

this year are like again completely off the charts so there isn't like some dip for him and

we're gonna say and he's getting max he's getting a five whatever you wherever he wants he's

getting and he's already thought that he thought that before he feels i'm pretty sure the

yonis feels that if he tours a sea he's still good max that's that's that's that's the outlook

of how people think of yonis i mean that's how he feels i don't think even things guys like that

don't even think about their extensions man they think it's like guaranteed or any especially

guys who've already gotten two or three you can buy an island in Greece i don't know what else he's

think i don't think he cares guys he's like he's got a big extension he's he's he's fixed he's

already he's already making said and he said what is he making i don't know

what do you think he cares guys he's coming it's coming his way that the brink trucks are in his

backyard they're already there what's your next game for mc i've come thank god winby all right

win winby he see the band a mr. 83 mr. 83 against wimby now or now or time yeah if he scores more

than 30 i'ma challenge you right now ban if you score more than 30 verse wimby it'll be just as

impressive to me as you getting 80 points i want 35 plus you can be 35 plus bam i'll

sit by hat more than you getting 80 versus the fucking wizards and that's no slice of the wizards

but the wizards are in a rebuild right now they're not even there like it's much at this point

this season like they then i don't even have their best product on the floor competing consistently

you know i mean they're giving these young guys time to develop they're they're developing rebuilding

stage at again 83 points is nuts it's double microwave it's fucking insane wait so you were 41 42

for you 41 41 against who you don't remember you remember the number if you don't remember who

i know i know i go i silently go it was the kings oh and they were good though deer and fox

you know it was checking you uh it was uh fox and um hare some barns a little bit and

uh monk you know harder those guys i think that was a team

ready mom run mom but yeah he's gonna get plenty of time for Detroit it'll happen

because they're gonna need shooting and like the problem is right now you can't sit gennings after

everything he's done for you this year and then harder is not playing well enough or shooting

well enough to where you could just the badness being in the game they like danice a lot uh

because i think he allows them somebody who's good with the ball you know where they can trust like

when something breaks down it gets sloppy because i i've watched enough of them this year that i'm

still like hey if he's in the closing five like are you getting out of the east there and maybe i'm

just being i shouldn't be he's the same john scott you know but i you know what i have to love

about danice is i've seen him go up against anybody in transition he will go like guys are doing

you turns on wimpy he had to play in one of those games or he's like fuck it i'll try he's

competitive as shit he plays with that he plays with that that hunger that i haven't got a big check

yet hunger it big time he just hasn't yeah he has the desperation about him he has a chip on his

shoulder some guys are able to keep that even when they do get paid which is great to see but he

has that right now um and that's why they're playing if kevin was shooting forty five from three

of promise you he wouldn't be playing yeah it's fast right yeah because i think kevin is obviously

it's like he's not 40 is there a shooting lineup out there with this combination but then what are

you giving up defensively if it's yeah defensive again i guess you know herter

correct desperation a great note to end on because it's getting desperate here six 22 to go in the

second half six fifteen to go in the second half sienna still leading number one seat duke

sixty one to sixty so we'll let you get caught up on your blue devils and we'll see what's the score

what's the score sixty one sixty sienna six minutes ago oh okay see see we we're doing we're doing

it we you hunt them down my again the same issue is the red flag i think we'll get past sienna

because we're one better team what when when we play an elite team and it's 88 you know seventy seven

you know you who do you throw that ball to if it's not cam do we have a guard that can consistently

come off and make some place or some hope in one of these guys you never know the tournament does

things to guys you know we'll see but man oh man sienna shot out to them i hate saying it but the man

first round sixteen one here we are people marches funny isn't it it's just such a

this time of years is on my and it's the least i've ever hated duke whether it was the Zion

year not when you were there no offense but um i mean i grew up just hating it like everybody else did

if you're from what is that is it just is it i don't want to get into that because that's a

deep answer but is it is it is it the um i just i hate it i hate it so much yeah

the private school bot air is that that's what it is yeah i don't know what it was man but it was

like there always was one guy in the team that you were just like oh here we go like is there

some weird prep school that just sends everyone to like the most unlikable faces ever i hear you

to the school we had a one where our stars were guys that could easily i get it like yeah i don't

i don't know what it was i mean it can't be a white thing for me when i'm white that would be

weird that's what i'm saying i was like that's why i hear it but you'd be surprised how many

white guys i he i talked to going i hate duke i'm like why we got a history of guys like you

ballin out what's the problem yeah i should love some of you should love it right jj and leaner are

like the man but i would say the Zion year i actually just wanted to keep going so i was like

rooting for it because it was like the first one that it was this little shift and then i've

watched i'm just so enamored with what shire does with every group that he gets in their offensive

and what he's he just i was like every single guy and look hey how to go into

there became a respect once i started working the espn started working with more duke guys

and it wasn't even just having k on the show a couple different times but i think i just as

i got older i started going like hey if you respect the right things with basketball

then you should appreciate this more than you should despise it but yeah i'm sorry like when it

was lehigh you guys you know fed on a 14 years ago i was definitely rooting yes you i'm sorry

but now i get to know you we have you on the pod it's all good many fences as we age

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rivers will get you geared up for life advice maybe get a little deeper here i need to do a better job

but do pull it out against sienna kaden booser that was a big time layup but classic kind of like

love the fight in sienna but there was about that five minute stretch where you like this is

getting really tough for you guys score and uh do pulls pulls it out

yeah well nervous i have duke in my final so i did have sienna plus 20 and a half though so shout out to

that that was yeah you saw that i was good i can't wait for that i looked at some chat

millimeter over here no no no no i was listen i like to listen you know to a bunch of pods different

people shout to anthony debundo um shout to tape it's bunch of different guys and you know who's

guys that's pretty great dj right now no i'm just i'm sick i don't i don't want i'm not going to

see you're until you i watch ton of college hoops um sienna is in the same conference squinty back

i've seen them play um when i get squinty back to beat them roller this year what's up take that

rico uh but yeah no so that a good day yeah part of me wonders if that was marist what would have

happened i'm just kidding that's right now it's a real match right yeah i have no idea it's

untapped resource of college hoops knowledge what's your final four i have michigan beating duke

and i and i have uh heuston because they play in heuston so i feel like that's kind of a no-brainer

there uh and then research what's the other one i have arizona arizona yeah i wanted to pick

arizona but it felt like everybody picked arizona so i went with michigan but michigan's like

picked arizona so it's not like i'm being that cute Kyle what's your final four i had the four

one seed tonight arizona but uh i can't i was looking today i i can't remember which one i did the

bracket on it's not in yahoo it's not in my esb and i mean it's just like it's like lost i just

did the classic like you know so much easier when you can just like you know tap it on your phone

instead of the you know go over to kinkos and print out a couple i just didn't do that and now i

don't know where it is so if i had the physical copy you know i wouldn't be i wouldn't be kind of

confused up here but i know i had arizona i think we're taping this too our bet is still alive you've

got michigan's state uh to cover which is like sixteen and a half my games later what do you have

Ryan i think you had uh i guess Santa Clara yeah so tv day yeah you'll already know when you listen

to this that one's still three and a half the line is the same there i had a calcutta last night

get pretty um a lot of drama i don't know little recap all of that try everybody that's involved

but yeah went deep went deep into the night with that one um one guy just kept bidding because he's

like i don't want to go home you know and some guys gonna come drink to them they're like you're not

married how they're like what are you gonna do tonight i was like i probably get dinner by myself

watch the liakers game what's that like man it's really freaking lonely actually it's really lonely

and sometimes north of fifty you start going hey is this pointless but we're talking about the bracket

not my inner dialogue do you ever just take a night walk you ever just go out and just be like

i bet it's not that old yeah you don't take a night walk all right now i should make sure everyone's

garbage cans are in the right spot well i thought about it yeah like let me slide this in if that's

such a great call Kyle god you were just you guys are on it today i love what you're bringing

i didn't like Wednesday should i think i was off i was off now you were after saying no it's

understandable i was not good i had nothing to do with anything anyone else did um but as

the let's say i think i'm probably the leader of the show you know the energy is dictated by my

energy and so there you go i just didn't think i had a very good show and so for you Kyle to point

out that when you start adjusting garbage containers for strangers that is like just order the

sketchers now all right flip in there i have it a moment yeah

oh that's so good no no night walks because i was kind of like uh you know what i'm like i'm going

to i gotta get back and watch this fourth quarter Houston in a life yeah i know because i was like

the longer it takes if it takes me 20 plus minutes to walk that's 20 minutes like and instead

i can spend 14 bucks to go home with tip i'm a tip and like crazy lately just paint it forward nice

to guys i don't know i don't know what's going on with me let's talk about the bracket though uh

st johns how far do you have them going Kyle uh i haven't been Kansas and then i had them

losing to Duke which you can understand i was very excited with what we were seeing while we were

working um but yeah whatever we'll just have to beat him the old fashioned way we didn't talk

about this but like it kind of sucks to duke in st john i'm sorry uh you kind of st johns are in the same

region yeah considering there's no biggies teams other than phillanova yeah like whoa i don't know

man that's weird it's also like why is why is man i mean this is i'm not trying to do that i guess i

am money money quarterback but like why is vandy going to play potentially florida in the sweet 16

after they just played again it quite two times already the season just feels like we can be better

there anyway yeah i i wouldn't have minded maybe st johns getting the four spot where Nebraska was

but i think i'd rather play duke than florida and i'm not just saying that after the sienna game i

thought duke was the worst of the four c's even though they ended up being the number one overall

seed because of the injuries to dong bud and foster so i i don't know i mean here's nabrasca i cannot

believe that's that and i'm sure you guys already know this they be troy to kill them that's their

first win ever in the history of their basketball program that is such an amazing stat i almost feel

like the football fan base unlock the coach that like i know it's doesn't make it's completely

nonsensical like why would you say that but if your teams never want to tournament game prior to

today like i almost feel like your football team you should guys well maybe the football teams

enough evidence that you guys should show the fuck out sometimes to Nebraska fans even though

everybody loves them everybody loves Lincoln it's the best the best and so i don't want to sound

like a dick but too late i realize that but that's unbelievable that you could be nabrasca and never

have won a tournament game yeah it doesn't sound real doesn't when i read it i was like how does

how does that even happen um i'm trying to think are they were they the only power four team

to never win a tournament game i'm looking up i'm still in the p five um you know nomenclature

for college hoops right yeah okay the big east yeah all right yeah so all right but like sure

p five then yeah i'm looking up now you just go power conference and i just leave it up to the

imagination i think it was northwestern before them them in northwestern northwestern 111 and 2017

so it looks like that is correct so correct me if i'm wrong but because like Rutgers is one one

Rutgers is sneaky deep are they no they've just you know they've had they've had a few guys

fill it up at times yeah last year um well last year i know was it disappointment

i'm gonna have to look them up now but uh now the smart guys last year were like

don't listen to the idiots it's not gonna be good but it was exciting because they were you know

i had to pull them up i had to put a little the frequency duty stats

led the nation scoring his junior year Rutgers 20 years ago today maybe not on the day

but that Rutgers team went 19 at 14 at a Gary Waters if you guys remember that but yeah

when he do be it was lighting it up and then it was like is this guy pro like probably not

uh Gary Waters last run Cleveland state 9 and 22 in his last season there so you can come back

so yeah we're doing a little bracket little Cleveland state getting that in there as well

are you guys doing anything like uh are you changing up the venues for any of the days this weekend

or are you just gonna be big TV in the house um i'm not going anywhere i actually this is more

of a Steve question i'm hitting my car over the dealership tomorrow yeah right we know what you're

we know what you're doing right yeah we need a confirmation um i'm actually going to this

you we're gonna not like this not like this i'm actually going to see project hail marion theaters

tomorrow and i'm axe uh oh i'm excited about this one but i think i'll probably wait

but it's in the morning i'm turning my screen off if you guys are acting i saw i was confused by

yeah that's fun i ride i guess kawaii i'll talk yeah i'm going to say but it's in the morning it's like

11 a.m. and i's matinee so i'll miss like a little bit of the early stuff but i should be back

and i but now my plan is to just sit my butt the couch and not too much all right well i think

i'm gonna give b-dubs a try there's a couple there's a you know i ran into a bunch of guys this week

who like i don't know i'm like maybe i'm expanding my group of friends a little bit i'm like could we

be dudes that like hang out and stuff and and i was talking to them about like where should we go

they're like it's not a lot of great tv bars around here which could be a market inefficiency

if anyone's listening from the area but um i was thinking b-dubs i felt like a little bit of like

uh that's like mainstream but i could be mainstream at times uh and then there's some other bars

that i think i might i really really have one day to pull this off and there's like there might

just be some tv problems so i don't know if should i go for the ambiance and and lose the tv

problems or or go just be a b-dubs guy like you know i'm like american this is no disrespect you don't

strike me as a mainstream bar guy i'm not i'm really not but i was just thinking for this exact

moment it seems like b-dubs is the answer to the equation so we'll see i don't know

you just want to come for some camaraderie yeah sunday i don't know it'll be a game time decision

no pun intended all right well i'll let you know how it goes so the johnny's would play

Kansas than that day potentially yeah oh boy oh gosh yeah right back all right i'm back okay

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apologies for the long email go on ryan tell me it's not that bad at all.

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dated a short king for a while and i was like i kind of did he know she's like you loved it

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was like what do you think you would be like if you were five six oh here go i didn't think we can

share any of it it'd be an unbelievable segment but then i feel like it sucks for all the five six

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i don't want to go on i don't want i don't want it to be i mean i rounded into a better situation

maybe i was thinking about molly shannon man it's a huge bummer if you just google his name but the

first thing that comes up is yoke um sniff me and it's smelling fingers it's all it's all bad he's

you oh here we go the germany coach yoke and low snips his balls and ass that's the first video that

comes up tough look you don't want to be known as that guy i don't know why i didn't think it was

that bad it was that yeah yeah because it is yeah it wasn't just like a nose pick you know whatever

tasted situation it was a full i don't know sometimes you pick your nose and aid it on tv it'd be

tough to bounce back from it but i think i think some guys out sometimes you just need a status

check and i mean that's not the right place but i mean sometimes you wonder whether it's worth it

or not not that yeah i don't think it's i think most men would agree that sometimes you're cute

like what's going on down there um there's a whole combination of him oh my god there's a video

there's a whole combination of him just putting his hand in different body part areas and just like

putting around his mouth and nose this is a tough your shoes are like an e60 on it you could

just say hey i get massive anxiety and this is how i and then it's like everybody's on his side

now that how the turntable is exactly you know he never really got a job after that so maybe

that's people are just weird out by them all they did he did want to work up i believe he gave

them all the shit his hand what's the female use this guy because conference just fist bump

like isn't it six feet yeah that was like five years ago though now we're still distancing yeah

yeah all right um back to our email as an englishman Ryan you're welcome for the language democracy

modern engineering comedy music and the concept of cues the guns are on you this guy's fucking

letting his habit boys i can tell you that uh i have a few retorts in my head but you know what

makes a lot of good points we'll just keep it moving i was in chicago last year on a once in a

lifetime us sports trip my wife and i went to a bar on a sunday to watch the NFL the arsenal man's

city game was live on a smaller screen in the corner so i kept had half a half an eye on it even though

neither of my team hashtag derby county some thoughts on them surrey real quick uh no they had

the lowest point point total history of the merely so not great okay then four americans and

brand new arsenal shirts started in demand of the tv in front of us and the rest of that into the bar

be switched to the soccer quote the footy fine there are about 400 other screens showing the NFL

god bless america no one else seemed to too uh too worried but once the match started these guys

unleashed the worst soccer analysis i'd ever heard basic rules not even close confidence level

through the roof after a few beers and despite my wife repeatedly asking what are you doing

what exactly are you trying to prove here i started gently correcting them uh

hey that's nowhere near off side uh there's nothing in that get up there in the occasional arsenal

have always been like this just little reminders that the sport existed before 1994 i'm not sure

those are found less than here except this to the original email or learn a bit about the game and

drop a few will time knowledgeable comments the dad has absolutely no idea you can out expert him

with minimal effort oh and developing english accent it always works

get in the american english guys is undefeated yeah in the america's defense off sides can be tricky

for me i find it to be tricky yeah the refs get it wrong all the time so i

i'm not gonna not argue with you there if you heard about bar bars the disaster we had a bar and

when we have it's essentially instant replay but it's like somehow worse and then they don't tell

anybody why things happen they just do it it's pretty pretty crazy yeah bars tough i've dipped my

toe into bar it's like it just seems like i mean if you like imagine not knowing anything about the

NBA and then you see a replay and you're like well the other guys swipe down like a at art stark

execution on the other guys arms but it touched his his like fingerprint and they showed on the

replay and that means he doesn't get the ball like well that doesn't make any sense but like yeah

for like 80 years everybody was fine with it until we started doing this it's way better though

it's real game way better yeah way better massive improvements okay let's get to some emails

some thoughts a lot of a lot a lot of a lot of these are centered on money tax time right around

the corner so maybe that's i don't know if there's a correlation sub boss we're getting a lot of

this too yeah cool all nicknames that's fun 41 years old six three two hundred pounds no recent

gym number since an injury a couple years ago but i'm deep in a serious inversion power hot yoga

damn all right good for this guy it sounds like 41 but he's getting ahead of it some people

are like hey i'm 50 you know maybe this is 50 the sequel to this is 40 and the guys just all

sign up for yoga went to an NBA game recently with two co-workers hornets were in town we wanted

to see lamello con in the young guys plan was simple lower ball in the one hundred two hundred

all range on the way to the arena one guy's text that he found seats really low for 70 bucks i

say cool by them a few minutes later he follows up he was driving on the phone with me and buying

at the same time and got cooked tickets were actually seven hundred each so now he's out 21 hundred

for three borderline court side seats at a game that absolutely did not require borderline court

side seat pricing he has a picture of the seats so it's like the front row that's the gap to

then the two court side seats right because those seats would never be seven hundred bucks but like

real court side baseline the row behind that which is extremely pointless to spend all that money

to be the row behind the row you want to be in which is too expensive and then where everybody sort

of walks i'd kind of like to be there almost a pretty spill in a drink you know i'd rather i'd

rather go to that first row of seats than be all the way on the court i just i i've seen someone

recently do that and it was like god kill me i definitely would i'm just saying like if you

were going to buy them the thousands it would cost price for side ones and then like two thousand

have the ones behind him you're like what am i doing like i still i don't especially by a short

king well for those seats not great i don't know if i want to stay on this theme it feels too mean

especially going into the weekend it's not like i'm some looker anymore uh we had agreed to around

two hundred dollars each we're just co-workers going to a game i can afford more but it feels

like a principal thing also when we met up he was finishing a joint then sat near total silence

all night like he just lit his savings account on fire meanwhile i'm trying to enjoy the game while

doing mental Venmo math well you know if you had needed a split expenses to get the Venmo card

you know you can get yourself some merch from snacks the third guy here was my direct report and

i had offered to take him to the game just not a seven hundred dollar one oh man so you offered

you're super screwed on this one what's the move do i just pay the two hundred we talk about

since this was a reckless purchase or eat the full seven hundred to avoid already oncoming

awkwardness trying to balance fairness without looking like a total jerk love the show

wait does he has to eat fourteen hundred or seven hundred because that would make a big difference

i mean seven hundred's like a little bit past the line but you can maybe talk to yourself they do it

but if you're just like oops the guy you brought also you're paying for him right like in what sense

he said eat the seven hundred let's keep the discussion around the seven hundred because i think

he would have said maybe he invited and they all agreed hey we're all paying for our own ticket

hundred two hundred bucks i don't know that he invited the i think if he was on the hook for his

ticket and the other guy he invited then he would have said fourteen hundred and he said seven hundred

when he says seven hundred eat that let's go with that all right it cannot escape the joint guy

how big of a fuck up this is sorry it can't it can't be just like a oops like you he has to

understand how bad this is if you are actually going to pay it i mean it's probably not going to

make you feel any better but it just sounds like the guy's a little bit cavalier and a lot of

aspects of his life and it's finally hurt someone else so i don't know would you pay it

sliding scale maybe you he pays more than you but you pay more than you want like not a good

compromise everyone's upset i kind of feel like it's all or nothing though right because like it

would eat is an extra hundred bucks i mean i guess yeah he would be happy about that but it's still

like you know you you still screwed up so i'm still paying you for your screw up so if i don't

because i've got the other route is like you just like pick up beers and and food or whatever

but that's not going to amount so the amount that's probably going to change his life or make

him the best night ever at the stadium this is tough because of the relationship like i've had

my friends do something that really fucks up the whole gang and it's like we all just have to be

like all right we have to take this and we push onward but this is co-workers that you're trying

to be guy it's not a core guy like you know i've got some real bad fuck ups where we just had to like

all right we're either not friends anymore or we are and we got to move forward this is this is

this is tough this is tough because you're not there it's not a lot of this set yeah

it depends on how you feel about the guy it depends on the dynamic of the relationship if you're

doing way better than he is and you really like the guy then maybe you willing to eat some of it

i just don't like coming down what they hate mistakes happen and so therefore now you're out

all of this money you know um right that doesn't that doesn't feel great but

i mean how do you how do you feel about this guy you know and it's he it's probably a lot of how

he handles it too right but if he's a little aggressive with it i mean like hey you know

me that's 700 and it's like we're not going to discuss the transaction at all like like there's

no part of you that's a little bit like hey so that's where i think the compromise does come in

where if he understands that he screwed up that's a lot of money i mean that's a lot of money when

you think you're spending one or two hundred and you're spending seven hundred and then it just

bummed you out because you're thinking about the rest of the time like i've had situations where

the grand scheme of things i'm way up in the ticket game right but i've still had some ticket

experiences where i'm going i cannot fucking look when i took you guys to the super bowl

and no one played in that six years warriors game and i was like i just spent six grand on this

i wasn't there wasn't internal math where i was like hey who cares i was like this sucks

yeah there was a couple of this sucks but splash sports awesome time yeah

and we had a good time yeah yeah so um how do you feel about the person how do you want that

relationship to continue is really the guiding principle throughout all of this i don't think

you think be go ahead i'll just ask do you think there's a route in which like if he was super

aggressive and almost like was trying to bully you into paying it would you be more likely to do

it or would dig as like super nice you know nice and was just like oh man like i'm so i'm

size screw this like which way do you think you would be more likely to pay i think you would be

likely to pay yeah humility would have yeah humility would help i think i i don't i think it would

be well within your rights you'd be like hey as the fumbleer here how much do you think you should

pay and then maybe i can work with you if there's like a non aggressive way to be like all right

looking at the replay here that's your man what do you think we should do like maybe that maybe

that's like not aggressive way you think you should get here yeah like that's like a non aggressive way

to see where his head's at and he's like well obviously we're splitting it then i don't know

how long would the email come if you guys did this would you expect i i personally would not

expect them to do that um to pick up the tab on my mistake i i would feel what year is it my life

is it that's it am i taking the fucking bus or not yeah let's say it's let's say it's like the bleakest

time you don't know i mean yeah i get it but like i would be i feel like my pride would be so high

that i would be like i'm not i'm not gonna like bring my buddies down with me especially a co-worker too

like i just i don't want to feel like yeah too fresh on the ground i don't feel like the loser in

that situation so i would i would just shit i would like start you know i don't know doing

odd jobs side figure out start fashion like yeah i get on task grab i do whatever yeah i figure it out

i think a lot of it has to do with one what we've already said about first thing

you know what's the first thing we said 10 minutes ago where it's like how what kind of

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all right how about this one my wife sucks at painting

hey guys my pond hockey comp is victor stahlberg on rusty edges sometimes my legs move faster than

my hands you guys have any other hidden knowledge on stahlberg and you're like out you know he's

actually pretty good pretty good plus minus no all right sometimes my legs move faster than my

hands the pain is drying in time is of the essence so I get right to it uh oh at the beginning of

the year my wife bought a house were thrilled we grabbed a sneaky big mostly affordable home in a

beautiful town it's still very livable but desperately needs a full interior paint job the

previous owner had kaleidoscope taste and most of the rooms are bright red blue or shamrock green well

just I mean what the fuck are you doing with that stuff it can't be so different like

all right some people like a good accent wall though I'm not against that

but this still in although you know what do I give a fuck I'm never you know paint your house

whatever I heard you could just paint the ceiling a weird color and be like well look what

that did to the space yeah I remember some kid in high school like painted this thing like

black black black yeah blacker than real black yeah I thought it was the coolest thing in the world

I was like can't even see where the walls end given limited space in here yeah are we outside

right name to smoke weed and I was thinking that so anyway uh soon after getting the keys we

hit it over to the local big box to pick out a couple cans of primer and paint the next day my

wife breaks out the brushes while I'm at work oh wait this is like home painting not

yeah all it in art and landscapes this is actually worse could be more frustrating yeah

and without you she just did it herself that's uh

hmm so here we go next day she breaks out the brushes while I'm at work when I get home she's

excited to show me how nice province blue looks in the bedroom but to my dismay she's botched the

job we're talking deep runs sloppy trim work all around worse coverage than last year's cowboys

immediately I grabbed a scraper which wasn't the feedback my wife wanted fair enough she put

in the work and before I go full taffer I need to get eyes on her technique that's time we paint

together look I'm no pro but my contractor buddy fed me some pointers and sometimes I watch this

will also on YouTube so while I may not be the Bob Ross of baseboard you better believe I'm

cutting out and keeping a wet edge oh guys I love this guy yeah my wife is not she's all over the

place not to mention no tape no drop cloth and she hates cleaning her brush I offer a couple tips

but that doesn't go down great either here's the catch she's fast and the time it takes me to trim

out a window well no shit she's fast

she got one she started a business like emergency painters we're in and out in 45 minutes

you don't never want to see us again the Marines painters

and the time it takes me to trim out a window she'll have half the room painted I'm

meticulous and slow always have been yes there's lots do but without kids yet and all our money

wrapped up in the house we have nothing but time I'll be staring at the ceiling above our bed

for the next 20 years or sizing up that footprint behind the toilet every time I take a leak

my wife wants the walls to look better quickly and I want to take my time to make them look great

with whom do you guys stand and how can I handle it better love the show

yeah everybody knows everybody knows that a proper paint job the prep

is takes more time in the actual painting make your twice cut once yeah exactly so if you're taping

I mean taping sucks I bought those edger things before those I don't like those

yeah some of those things here for the suspect you've seen those videos where the

guy just comes on it he has the wall he's like a three foot wide brush and just bang bang bang bang

bang bang bang I think it's done in literally 10 seconds and you're just like that's awesome

three foot wide brush sounds like a carnival yes we're talking we're talking we're talking we're

rolling yeah we're rolling yeah sorry yeah that's like a carnival brush but yeah he just gets one of

those like like what is the shop fat or the the the the brushes you know the ones from home depot

dips that in there so he's going out of the wall that'd be aggressive what's the name for that

why am I can't I think of the name for those brushes a push broom yeah okay yeah push

for shop back I'm like that's not right um I don't know what the fuck you're doing right now but I'm

paying no sorry yeah I got lost my DIY thoughts there yeah no I've done this before so we when we my

my first house we painted we paid all the rooms in there based on the first thing we did before

we moved anything in and you know it's a combination of a lot of family members yada yada and I

could tell which room was done by who and I was reminded of it every day and it bummed me out so

I'm with our guy like I know the important you're gonna look at that wall every single day and be

annoyed so I think the can you convince her in like a year that it's actually not the right paint

color and just to just I did it yeah well yeah because you're you're gonna hurt her feelings either way

right right so but could you can can you convince her that in a year like in a year hey this

actually this isn't the paint color for us we should go this other way and then like you can kind

of do the painting and do it the way you want maybe that's the way but I think I think without

hurting your feelings you're gonna have to kind of wait this out is he more talking about what

you do about this room that's already screwed up or how am I gonna get through the rest of the

house when this is how it works if he's saying like how do we finish the job with this sort of work

dynamic and I wouldn't suggest like giving us like tasks that don't actually mean anything she'll

probably sniff that out right away but can you be like is she doing it while he's at work is that

is that part of the problem here or as part of it while he's doing his slow and steady work she's

blazing through if he's like can you be can you be the person that that tapes all this off and

and prep so that we can get here and and like can we just change the division of labor instead of

you know how we're both like just going doing doing this on our own time tables here you're like

listen I I'm a mesh I'm a measure twice cut once guy it would really help I think the way that

this gets done if you could be the one who tapes everything off and you and you get everything prepped

you know if you feel like you want you really want to help while while I'm unable to because I know

that part sucks right nobody wants to do that part oh yeah but we're all adults here

does she just want to be the paint person you know I know who she is I know who this person is

and there's something about painting you know I was trying to think of other things

they're like this like what could somebody be ridiculously bad at but wants to prove some kind of

point and there's probably some cooks out there where it's like hey I'm it's like no one likes

any of this food but it's like look what I did today like who's ready for a lamb

wait to wait do we get through the appetizers you just like you know it's just so you're the

person it's so excited you know there's actually a lot of good qualities usually in this kind of

person they're like let me let me take control this let me learn something new let me see what I can

do but then there's this odd ego that gets in the way of it where it's like hey this tastes like

shit and stop doing this like I remember I had a girlfriend that made me an army supply of meatballs

army supply and she was so excited because she was you know I was younger than she was like

trying to prove some point she was going to be domesticated and she didn't salt any of

there was no seasoning no salt pepper on any it was just hamburger balls boiled breadcrumbs

in marinara and it was the worst it was so bad and I told her I'm like did you not use any

salt pepper on any of this and she was like oh my god how fast did you tell her that dude

probably the first thing oh man she was disappointed I saw on her face but we corrected it we

corrected a mistake and it laid the groundwork now with somebody else you know credit to her she

took it well and you know we were like look let's get back in the lab it sounds like you might

have a wife that's not gonna add any salt pepper to the meatballs because if she's happy if she

thinks it's totally five she's taking such pride in her do it herselfness that there's an actual

footprint of paint on the tile behind the toilet and that edges just don't matter like you could

watch videos you know granted the first thing you do you see somebody hold the brush and you go oh

you've got it no you don't have it I already know how she holds the brush probably hold on it like

this you know like a toothbrush um settle up between the fingers kind of thing no I mean the

the brush needs to be deep into your hand and you control the the base of it not to handle but

it's yeah I you just see it there's something about painting that everybody thinks they can

fucking paint probably more so than even cooking so this is not rare there's probably so many great

qualities about this person because like I think again like I said somebody that's like hey I want

to attack this take on this new challenge and all this stuff it's like yeah but it's also our

house like if you bought a brand new car would you want to work on the ignition to prove a point

they're like hey the car doesn't turn over anymore it's like yeah but you know what I fucking get

in there get my hands dirty you're like well now I'm walking to work um some people notice

have the wires well as they some people notice like like some people walking some people would eat that

meatball situation it'd be totally fine with it not ask any questions and they're just like

whatever man I mean meatballs and spaghetti I'm happy right you got a balsamic yeah yeah you know

like my dad you know like when I when I would cut the lawn when I was younger I was like yeah I'm

doing like a good job cutting the lawn and my dad would be like dude and I would have no idea

that I did a bad job I was like oblivious to the job like I was like the lawns cut what you

talking about is like the lines are all messed up you didn't go straight patterns yet I had yada

there's things I just didn't even know that I didn't know back then maybe she's just she just

doesn't know she's just putting me on a wall she sees the color and she's like this is great

the room looks totally different this can we get her a job oh boy so she's not at all I you know

yeah man only that alone you said the word domesticated and then you just went for

is there any part of like once the dust settles and in this case the paint dries

and the edges are all fucked up and all your trim work has these swells of blue paint

where it's supposed to be this crisp white edge can you just go all right look we gave it a pass

we gave it a shot let's break out some videos you know like if you want to learn how to do it

because it's actually not that hard load up the brush drag it away the paint sort of fills it in

it's not it's not that hard well sounds like I'm gonna get a soup in it's sanding too now because

you're gonna have to sand those bad boys down there they don't fix this you get those

streaks in the wall those will just come out with you put new paint over it been there before

yeah that was textured the problem is it says it's a sneaky big house this could be a lot of

job left and I think what really neat we you have to come up with something to get you through

that you can't just like develop an ulcer while you move from the kitchen to the living room

because you're just like not saying the words that you need to say I mean is there anything we

could say about that like if this job is nowhere near done and he needs something he needs something

if we're not just talking about eventually getting to redo this blue bedroom is it like we've got

a lot left that's the problem you're saying this wall that that room is dead like we're leaving

a big bigger problem is the sneaky big house maybe there's you know an office that you know

isn't even gonna be got to for another couple weeks and maybe you should tell her that you're

gonna take the next one right and you know it'll probably be better maybe people will notice it

looks better yada yada yada or you can just say hey like I just like like look see how this see how

this is a little straight like do do it show her how because again maybe she just does not know

she has no sense of like what it's supposed to look like do you do it do it right and then you

can kind of show it to her and then you hopefully have privileges for the rest of the house a little

more on the Hail Mary on comfortable side can you bring one of your parents over that you pulled the

side and be like wow who are the painters that you hired hired to do this like you know I mean

and and then like I don't know I mean it's a little bit on the ridiculous side but if you if you

get someone who could be like objectively we're gonna have people over here and the first people

we came in to the construction site is like who the fuck did this like maybe there's something there

I don't know it's easier to say that to do it but I'm just thinking of a way to get through to where

that's just not you being in great you know in grade of a husband we'll do one more of these for

the weekend hey boys no basketball comp this one is titled Ferrari and shitty apartment six foot

two hundred and three pounds love the specificity go to berries three times per week use the 65s walk

three and a half miles five to seven days per week run three and a half miles two to three times a

week so I try to stay in shape it sounds like it buddy good for you need your input in a little

situation this past Sunday a little context you can be vague but I'll be specific for your own

edification we live just south of all right well yeah I guess they're in Santa Monica where it's a

mix of very expensive condos townhomes and regular apartments we live in one of the very expensive

condos and have cheap apartments on both sides think two thousand dollars a month which is cheap

in LA which yes yes right that's awesome two buildings down as a very crappy apartment building so

yeah I think like there's certain look there's just certain pockets when you're driving through

LA in certain neighborhoods you're like okay that house is amazing and then the next one is like

what's going on got to happen one at a time you know yeah right I mean it's not sim city here you

can't just wipe out on the tires zone and fix it in afternoon I wish they bring that game back but

the same time kind of glad they're not my wife eight months pregnant she and I were out for a walk

our daily walk on Sunday constantly people in the city aren't paying attention we've almost got

hit many times so I'm very vigilant on our walks so some some back dated experiences here while

walking back to our house a guy in the crappy apartment building who keeps his older red Ferrari and

Porsche GTS something or other I'm not a car guy is backing out of spot not looking either way

their spot is basically on the sidewalk which is how those spots are oriented so you have to cut

it sharply to hit the decline so you don't bottom out you have to be looking we stop short because

you just started going and I go whoa whoa whoa you get to look both ways he rolls down his window

looking obviously miffed and says oh you're saying something because I'm in a Ferrari but if I

was going to Tesla you wouldn't have said shit oh okay I just say I love his Ferrari anything you

want to do or say we're on the e-mailer side here uh I think I am imagine all three sorry are you

fucking serious I think I'd be more inclined to say something in a Tesla your Tesla probably would

have beeped at you hey fucking stop it yeah the Tesla would have just like you're about to hit

someone and when I had the whole Rivian thing I was like I can't believe this guy's getting out of

a Rivian and he wants to fucking kill me I was like I was feeling a lot more confident when I just

thought it was a Rivian till the guy got pretty worked up um I say exasperated you live in an

apartment oh damn that is right to the bone he puts his car in park my wife keeps walking ahead of

me I keep walking he basically gets out of the car saying you got something to say over and over he

was really mad and I just say you almost hit us look both ways he yells how was going to hit you

going one mile an hour he keeps yelling but my wife and I are already walking into her house so

obviously the guy's a psycho I already apologize to my wife she's from the Midwest I'm from Boston

I love it I love you too yeah so our tolerance of desire for random

confrontations is markedly different guess it is my question is one is the really nice car

at 2,000 apartment just an LA thing stereotypically people would say that that's the town where

you know your your house poor cash rich or what like people would say that that's exactly what

people care about I've lived in there for 10 years to be like obviously not everyone's like that

but I know that that's like the stereotype of you know just get all the things and you can

you know live in a hovel so yeah right right I I would imagine it's probably more of an LA thing

than anywhere else I could think of because in New York if you're trying to do that you're just

better off down having the car like so many people in New York like what's the point yeah

I'm gonna cost down to certain type of clothes and bags and shoes and yeah that's where it goes

yeah you probably just get the bags come on we can call right um I've been to LA town 10 years and

this is the only place I've ever experienced two does this guy know how embarrassing it is to have

a hundred thousand dollar cars while living in a hovel your word cut oh wow that's crazy

three does he know that my you live in an apartment was referring to how embarrassing it is these

driving a Ferrari thinking he's sick while going home to a shitty apartment love the pod

I look he started at such an aggressive look he almost hit you and your wife you're already pre

disposed to be looking out for this stuff because everything is happening and you know again

the pregnant wife part of this all right so like it's it's it's very common like the next guy I

catch breaking into my fucking car I don't know what's gonna happen it's it's happened like 15 times

and I swear to God he might be in junior high and I'm worried about it I fucking believe you I'll

tell you that much I fucking believe you stole whoever stole the shit out of my car last time

he stole my little brother's stuff and I'm like now you're now you're you're not just fucking

with me you're fucking with family maybe you should start taking night walks dude fucking bad man

so when something keeps happening to you like this guy going on his walks like your priest so

you didn't say anything other than like hey don't hit us he's used to getting all sorts of

shit cuz he's in a Ferrari but when he says you're just saying it because I'm in a Ferrari I think

everything is on the table so for a non-confrontational Midwestern wife yeah it's so funny he's clearly

the guy that will totally fuck up traffic while giving you the middle finger because you beat

at him he probably does this all the time he's never wrong and I think we've all been accused

or we could all probably be accused of like fucking up the rules of the road and then just because

you're in your car you're just like zero to a hundred you like yeah we'll fuck you buddy

this is crazy because it's like pedestrians you pretty much are always in the wrong almost always

I mean you know some people get a little you know happy feet out there start crossing the street

all which ways well they're looking down on their phones like even as a gym like yeah I catch

myself looking down at my phone while somebody's backing out in the parking lot and then they're all

apologetic to Kyle's point because you just always feel like you're in the wrong when it's a person

walking you're in the car who could destroy who I was trying to like dart out of the way going

like hey I was looking at my phone I was looking at my phone like I could I could keep I could be

more aware so we could all work on this together but I don't care who you are you've been guilty

of this on either side of it at some point and normally you just kind of feel bad acknowledge

you feel bad and then keep it fucking moving because we got stuff to do yeah but this guy's just

the guy who's never wrong and it's just like any sort of you know any sort of suggestion that he's

you know maybe not paying attention is like a total insult to his intelligence and he just has

to fire back at you so that was never going to go any other way so what's what's the the

emotional questions what like did he did he handle this correctly like did he do something wrong

because the if that's I mean no I think I think it's actually the seems like he's more escalation

he's more interested in the Ferrari guy actually feeling the dig I feel like he's he wishes that his

it doesn't even know how stupid that is to have those two cars

well as cars out you say it was outside he started to leave a note on his car anonymously

and we got a funny might be covered probably it is probably get a sticky note I don't know

figure it out one of those paperclip like the clamp ones for a bunch of papers and just make sure

it doesn't go anywhere attach it to some McKenzie canvas product look I think you're probably

going to run a new one again though aren't you yeah he's a big walker doesn't know where you live

right because you guys are going into your house so it's guys walking everywhere yeah and I imagine

that guy take separate trips into Ferrari it's like all right we'll go we'll go grocery shopping

and then we'll get gas later do that you drive to Alpac yeah yeah this is good you're going to run

into each other so look there's another thing Kyle sit here we'll finish when you're in your car

you lose your mind yeah so Steve is the most unstable he's admitted it many times like I don't

know what happens to be bad it's really bad it's really bad I have the least amount of pay you

I feel like you guys I'm like a pretty patient even keel guy if you flatline see anything

in a vehicle I just I can't handle it can't handle it I don't know if I've ever seen a mad yet

yeah well no that well you should drive with me more yeah I'm like that I'll get down to

maybe that magic that tweeted from a former co-worker comparing Palo Ben Carrot to buys Harris

that might have been the most I've ever I wasn't even mad I was mad I was I think I was mad

not mad about that that's fine I'm mad on your behalf that'll do it for the show abrupt goodbye

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