Bandwagon Nerds #330: Paramount Finally Wins Its Prize!

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Hello again fellow basement dwellers. That's right. I'm back. Your good friend, Patrick O'Dowd, is back to kick off March with all of you part-time Patrick here welcoming you in to another edition of bandwagon nerds bandwagon nerds is, of course, brought to you as a part of the chair shot radio network here on the chair shot.com where we remind you to always use your head.

I have to say thank you, Tony. Tony, what's wrong over there? I was about to thank you guys. We are we are we have a loaded loaded ass bandwagon. I've already made Ray Cash laugh. We don't just have the band back together. The main four. That's right. We do have the main four. We have a very special guest, a last minute addition to the bandwagon. We're going to let him introduce himself in a second, but I got to do a quick go. We're going

around. I've spent two weeks with the mouse. I'm relaxed. I'm refreshed. I'm wearing my spankin' new Disney World Maleficent Baseball Jersey. It's a glorious, glorious expenditure. Totally worth whatever my annual passholder discount got me it for good. Hey, there's reasons to spend $1,700 for an annual pass in Disney World. And that is 20% off merchandise everywhere. So I mean, it almost it paid for itself like not at all. But

I went to the parks every single day. It was a great time. And then immediately hopped on a cruise ship had the time of my life was great. I've come to learn, gentlemen. I drink a lot when I'm on a cruise ship like a lot. I first night on the cruise ship hammered Patrick. Hammered like should not have gone to the fancy restaurant, a tapas and wine pairing tasting. We had signed up for with all the grownups because Patrick

had had a very large tankard of beer. You didn't follow. You didn't embarrass the Mrs. O'Doward. Did you? I did not. But the dining room where we were going to this tasting had a step missed it.

I missed the step. Nice little stumble. Didn't don't play out all the way through. Did a little trip. A little trip was like, I'm okay. You still have. Okay.

Live your cute nose. You don't look like you busted your face open. You look like you got all your chicklets. So I did. I did. It went well. It was an interesting cruise. It was a Disney had invited a ton of Disney influencers and bloggers and video

bloggers for this particular cruise because it was a Pixar day at sea. And of course they had to have chair shots number one villain and hold some handwagon.

Zero who answers. But cereal. You're you could have just said you were one of those influencers. You could have used it. But I'm not on their radar.

But it was it was fascinating because like one of the ones that we watch regularly was there at our dinner. And she posted a video of that cruise today actually.

And during that pairing and tasting, you can see this part of my head as I was sitting next to the Somalia who was explaining the wine pairings with the food.

All right. Anyway, enough of. Not Somali. You're sitting next. Oh, what did you say? Somalia. It is a fancy word for the guy who controls the wine.

I'm runner with you or something. I didn't know. Look at me. I am deceptive. Anyway, let's get into introductions. Of course, you know, I'm petrified out. I was here. I was not here for the last two weeks.

The guy directly to my left on my screen also wasn't here last week. That was my good buddy, the lawyer David Ungar. He's back today feeling a little under the weather.

But he came through for us. So Dave, how are you doing? Welcome back to the podcast.

I am doing pretty well other than being a little under the weather, defying X's band of me by going on YouTube and feeling really good. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Dave. And other than that, yeah, glad to be back.

Had the week off last week for a noble purpose. And glad to be back talking about a very surprising turn of events.

Yeah, we're going to we're going to get to that in a little bit. The two guys that held the fourth and brought in special guests last week. Raymond S. Cashington Esquire Reverend Raven. You ran the show.

You ran the show. And you brought in Lord Christopher Platt's plant and a belaz. I heard like one. I know there's like seven of them. So like one of the show. Yeah, big brother. It was every bit of the mess you expected it to be.

It was working on that part of it. I haven't listened to the entire show. I checked in with you this morning for the trailer part. That's as far as I've got you want to know why I know you have a list of the show.

Because the show was off the rails. I wouldn't have got a tweet or a text out of got a call. Like what the fuck did y'all do?

Again, I don't do that. And don't understand where this implication Patrick is like. Keep going. The gimmick. Live the gimmick.

I don't live the gimmick.

Well, let's also say hello to our executive vice president of Tuesday programming. Wednesday programming Wednesday program. Sorry.

My good friend. Though he did a solo show. I saw Greg Demarco. Keeping the Greg Demarco show running three weeks in a row.

Sans Patrick O'Dowd. That's got to be like a record. Or did he miss a week? Did he miss a week? That was two weeks ago.

Sad for him. Well, PC. Tony. Hi. Did you miss me? Yep. I noticed that you missed me so much that you had to share that I will always be the number one chair.

Yeah, it was it was it was just an appropriate proclamation to make. And thank you for, you know, game recognizing game. I appreciate that. But we have a return to the bandwagon.

And this is a guy who God, it's been years, literally years, I think, since the last time you've been on the show. Now here's a guy.

Here's a guy. He's he's often known as a violent gentleman, but they'll let that fool. You are a good friend. A. So I'm also from the depths of Wisconsin, right?

Yes. Yes. Southern Wisconsin. Rays. Not born. There's about 10 miles east of me. So welcome back to the show. What have you been up to? What have you been? This has been I literally not seeing you in ages. What have you been up to? Look, I already apologized.

Three recording. I'll apologize now as well. I have been busy in more ways than one because I got a new baby in the house.

So that's been taken up most of my time. And the baby stuff was crazy because that baby was trying to come like six months early.

So you know, it's been a little bit crazy. That's not good. No, no, but everything's great. He's healthy and shit in his pants as much as he can.

You know, typical, typical words stuff over here. Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, exactly the best of the words, if you would.

And then as well, I got a new podcast that I've been running with. That's been taking up a lot of my time. A bench warm was trivia podcast. I've actually been a new contributor to the podcast. They've been around for a while.

It's been a lot of fun. So you don't feel free sports people. Listen in. Are you doing any wrestling game here and there? It's a little.

It's a little bit of a of a minefield over here in Wisconsin. To be fair, a lot of promotions are cheap. So they, but what about me?

That's fine because like I said, I got I got other stuff to kind of take my take my time up. And yeah, I don't want to I don't want to get to political in the

wrestling politic lands. Yeah, we're going to we're going to get to that later.

Wrestling politics wrestling politics. Yeah, no, no, no, we're not going to we're not going to talk wrestling politics, but we are definitely unfortunately going to talk a little real world politics today.

That's all I'm saying. It's just it's just not my field anymore. I did what I need to and I still will wrestle here and there if they want me. I just want to say on behalf of all the non Wisconsinites in this podcast.

Congratulations on the baby. I had no idea. That's awesome. Yeah, man.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, you're doing great. You only get one for me. Tell tell tell all I need to say what's up? If you was here, I would took them out. And so now I'm now I'm home alone. That's dangerous.

I would like to congratulate your baby mama. You really didn't do anything. That is a lie. I did the most important part. Well, I guess.

So I hit that kid that kid was in the biggie on the top seconds. You're being quite generous, Tony. So I love you. Congratulations, buddy. Yeah, awesome news. Sounds like everybody's healthy and happy at this point.

Yeah, excellent. Wonderful. Wonderful. We do have quite a little bit of a show lined up in front of us today. We are making a triumphant return to horror in the trailer park.

We have to talk about the big turn of events in the purchase of Warner Brothers, just a crazy, crazy story that happened midweek this week and some other news around the

atmosphere before we get back into because I from what I understand battle royale madness took a week off with myself and Dave both being gone. So we are we are into round two of battle royale madness and we will be covering.

I believe it is Star Wars and best of the rest for this week, the second round matchups there before we get too far along. Again, this is bandwagon nerds here as part of the chair shot radio network on the chair shot.

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Patrick could do that too. We could we could totally do that. Absolutely. You villain is bastard. I will pay attention to that.

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Yeah, I hear he does a good job. I think he does. I'm not bad. I've actually cheated on our podcast by appearing on a different podcast.

Coming back from I know you're thinking no a person. I am I did an interview on a trip report podcast talking about my vacation.

No, just because you're just because you're dressed that way does not make you a whore and very much is often very much plugged the other network you work on, right?

I very much did not mention the other network that I worked on. I get paid to not do that anyway. We do have quite a great show though. Let's get into it.

We're going to jump right back into the trailer park and we're going to start with the movie that Tony's not going to watch.

We're going to follow that with another movie that Tony is not going to watch. Then we're going to talk about a series that is already streaming followed by a trailer.

Then at least raise good to watch. I don't know if I'll see it. We'll talk about it. Tony might watch it. Who knows it? I don't know where he went.

But let's get started at the top. So as a child, he's in a part of the video store generation, the blockbuster generation.

I would often when you would go to the video store, you would go into the horror section. And there was like this taboo row at the top of the of the horror area.

Like out of the reach of the smaller hands with these movies titled Faces of Death.

And they had this big cult following around them because it was allegedly anthology footage of real deaths taking place that have been recorded on film.

And there'd be like this one kid out of the friend group who's like parents were a little edgy.

I.e. didn't give a shit what their kid watched or rented. It would rip their kids movies and you go to the summer party like three o'clock in the morning.

And you'd watch real deaths. And that was like a thing that got more and more ridiculous as you got through the series.

Because I don't remember how many of the OG series and there's at least like six. There's like three.

There were three before things really started. I don't know if there were more, but I remember the first three.

And those had some legitimacy to it after that things got weird.

They were fake. Like they were ridiculously fake. It was like over the top. But it was always in the effort to push the envelopes of stuff.

They're they're these are you know extremely graphic videos anthology videos of allegedly real people dying.

So of course I WC was like let's make a new one. And that is the first trailer that we put in front of us today.

Which looks like this is completely just embracing the fictionality of it all. Like as I watch this trailer and and look at it being like akin to the VHS anthology series or ABCs of death where it's.

You know like there's this like narrative around the outside as you go to these different many stories short films if you will.

I don't know that we needed this. I don't know that anybody wanted this, but we've got it. And since it sits he's back after a long time.

Let's let's put Mr. Asop in in the in the crosshairs of fun. You ever privy to the famous faces of death cult series and two. Why are we doing this?

So first of all, I know it's been a while, but if you may remember I am quite a horrorficionado. I do watch a lot of horror movies.

In fact, I would say in the current landscape of film that is probably the genre that I partake in the most.

Now there is something that is very key when you look at that brailer and that is the I want to say it's the second or third promotional tag and that's for shutter.

So it's a it's kind of a craft shoot. I'm sorry I like shutter. I don't I don't personally have shutter as a subscription, but for those of you who don't know shutter is a horror subscription service.

And the stuff that shutter produces is man, it is either really good or it is pure dog shit.

I will say this probably has the best look in terms of shutter original stuff. Normally the video quality on that is about as good as you can get from buying a camera off of goodwill. And that's about it.

I'll probably pass unless I hear good things about it because it's a shutter original shutter original Dave.

All right.

Faces of death came out. The first one came out in 78. So I don't even think you were born yet, Pat.

I was born in 78.

You were born in 70 when the first movie came out. And I understand what you're saying about the taboo real at blockbuster, but when the first movie came out, you could not get this.

Yeah, they actually had to bootleg this fucking thing and have somebody who recorded it off of, you know, however they used to do things back in the day to record this thing.

Lime wire, right? Yeah. Or, you know, people with sneak cameras and theaters and shit. They did the same thing with like cannibal holocaust.

Yeah.

Inside your calls.

Remember that guy that I felt recorded movies for with the camera inside the theater the day you divide from that.

You know, you're not going to watch this. So why are you commenting?

I just don't understand.

Man, faces of death. Try the faces of Dave.

Who's the villain here?

I know.

Who's the villain?

Why are you overstepping?

None of it. None of it really bugs me because eventually you'll all miss a week and I'll still be here.

And then you'll bury us.

No, when it is coming up on bowling tournament season, that's true.

When this movie came out, when you first saw it, like you're saying, you know, a lot of the deaths were faked and stuff.

You didn't know that in 1978 or 1980. You thought this was real.

And I mean, like this, the stuff that stands out, the electric chair death scene traumatized so many of us in a thick and holy shit.

Is that really what happens with the electric chair?

You think about the green mile, right, when the one guy gets electrocuted and they remove the moisture from the cap.

And it's this horrific scene.

So I mean, that's kind of what made the faces of death so unique is that you weren't sure what was real and what was not.

And in the end, all that stuff was staged, not all of it.

There's real autopsy footage. There's real plane crash after math footage. There's real aspects to it.

But the stuff that they showed like the monkey brain thing, that's one that stands out that was faked.

I think it was in faces of death, too, where the gal jumps out of the airplane and gets blown into a gator pit.

That's, you know, that was all fabricated. So what?

That's fake.

That was fake, Dave.

But, you know, along those lines, I have no interest in seeing this because I know going into it that this is completely fabricated.

This is all like Dave said, it's a shutter original.

So it's going to be hit and miss whether it's worth a shit or not.

But what made the faces of death movies so unique can't be replicated in 2026.

So why am I going to bother with this?

And I think the last film in horror that had people guessing, like legitimately had people guessing,

was what Blair Witch with the found footage marketing campaign.

Now it didn't take long for the for the gig.

Like if you'd watched a steak and shake commercial in the Midwest, you knew that it wasn't real because the actress that is in Blair Witch did steak and shake commercials for years before getting that film.

Right.

And so I was the steak and shake chicks.

Like you do it wasn't real.

But that was the first there.

That was in my mind, sort of the last like truly.

No, we had paranormal.

We had paranormal activity.

That definitely the first one definitely had people thinking that they were actors in there.

So people thought that the steak and shakes were haunted though.

I mean, it's fair.

It's fair.

Ray, you also, you do enjoy good horror flick here there.

I don't know if you ever got as far as faces of death, but your thoughts on this trailer before we move on.

I'd just like to let it be known that I believe in Jesus because this shit makes you shit.

Boy, this is a hell of a challenge.

Um, I have not seen such things before.

I have not heard of such things before.

A little after your time.

A little before your time.

For sure.

I'll say this.

I love horror.

I don't mind gore.

I'm not one of those people that don't like gore.

I don't like gore for the sake of gore.

It's got to be a purpose.

I think Saul does a great kind of mix, but juxtaposition between crazy gore and for the purposes of actually being there.

Right.

And as I've said, the loud shit out loud.

It's on shutter.

This could probably be garbage.

The good thing is I know that.

I have a good shutter originals.

I'll just say that.

I agree.

And to that point, the two main characters in this movie, we know who they are.

Doc Ray Montgomery was, um, was Jason, the red Ranger and power Rangers.

And, um, and he's in stranger things, I think.

And Barbie Freer is was one of the girls in the original season of euphoria.

So these are not no names.

I don't know.

I'm going to watch my boy.

I did.

They might be a little bus for me, Doc.

I might be on the piece.

He tell me like laying the stuff.

The one real comment I would make about it is it would seem if you wanted to do something that was staged or something to that nature.

Like the presence of AI now would make that a lot easier and to do as a filmmaker and a lot harder to disseminate as someone, you know, taking in the medium.

But like just to round it out now that I made a serious comment.

I would say my least favorite Gore would be L.

Definitely.

No.

You tried.

No.

Here's your at least you tried kick.

He did invent the internet.

He did.

He also, uh, discovered a climate change.

Man bear pig.

Shout out to man.

Back to your bad bad bear pig.

Yeah.

Back to your comment, though, about.

Gore for the sake of Gore.

I like.

I'm there too.

I'm not a torture porn fan.

Like I'm not one of those people.

I like all that stuff.

Yeah, hostile.

Like I just, at some point, it's like, what is the purpose?

Hara fire.

To an extent, the leader.

Martyrs.

Remember Dave.

We talked about martyrs a couple of years ago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So like those are the sorts of films that like to a point I get it.

But yeah, at some point we go away.

The next film.

We got our first sort of true trailer for it's been teased a couple of times.

But a more complete trailer came out this week.

For Lee Cronin's take on the mummy.

And as I watched this trailer, I got to say it has me intrigued.

I don't know when intrigued, like whether I'm show up to the theater intrigued or if I'm watching it when it hits HBO or whatever intrigued.

But the, but the concept is really interesting.

Because it's, you know, this trailer centers around these parents who are like on an outing with one other kid with their kids with their family when they get a call from the police saying we found your daughter.

And their daughter's name is Katie.

And they're like, but we need to warn you about her state.

And so when they find their daughter, she looks fludged up y'all.

She looks really fludged up and she's not talking.

And she's behaving very strangely.

And then we start seeing bugs and vomiting into each other's mouth of stuff and twisted smiles and creepy child motions through darkened houses.

And the mystery of what exactly happened to young Katie.

So I'm intrigued.

I don't know that I'm all the way there yet, but I am intrigued.

We're going to go in reverse order.

We're going to start with Rayman to this time.

Revered.

Your thoughts on Lee Kronin's The Mummy trailer.

No Brendan Fraser in sight.

Let me, let me save this as matter of fact, because I can say it.

All of you know Ray.

Some of you have the pleasure of no rants.

If you know rants, rants don't do desert movies.

If you know what's understood, don't need a big complaint.

You don't.

You don't even know shit.

So this is a no for me.

Don't wait.

Is that me?

It's not.

There's only a little bits of the desert.

What?

Did you watch like Matthew McConaughey's Sahara?

Well, that's a classic.

There were things in the desert that we don't need to talk about that rants doesn't fuck with.

And cannot see.

I thought we're going to have to change your name to Anakin Cash because you just hate sand.

It gets everywhere.

Not to lose cool.

Like I can rock with sand.

It's, but it's, it's certain things.

We'll leave it at that.

Spider-Man is going to be pretty tough for your boy.

When it come out of the sand.

We don't need to say it out loud because the rants will drop off the call.

Hard, hard pass for Ray on the mummy.

Dave Ungar.

Yeah, this is an interesting one.

I don't know if I've seen the mummy portrayed in this way before because you've got.

You know, the thing about Katie in this thing is she's been missing for eight years.

So like what happened in that eight year period?

She's, you know, and you get the feeling that there's,

that there's almost a ring of child abductions that are like going and mummifying these children,

which of course with everything going on with the Epstein files is going to touch some definite nerves.

Wow.

Wow.

I just say it.

It's, it's, it's a pretty easy jump to make.

But, um,

Jackson some dots.

Try to connect.

Suddenly suddenly you're in the, what's his name in front of the bulletin board with the.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I think, I think that's the idea it's supposed to make you feel uncomfortable.

And this trailer definitely does accomplish that.

You feel very uncomfortable about like, okay, what have they done to these kids?

They've turned them into living mummies.

Uh, and, and especially near the end where she's talking to her grandmother and says, death is fun.

So there's some really weird shit going on here.

This is a much more mature true horror version of this story that, as like you said, has nothing to do with Brendan Frazier or racial wise.

This is, this is something completely different.

There is no campiness.

I'm, I'm like you Pat.

I don't know if I'm all the way in, but I'm interested enough that this is going to be worth it.

Do love a good creepy kid horror film.

Yes.

Like I do.

Like just a weird child horror film can go a long way.

I sat through way more of village in the damned because of creepy children.

So, and I, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Well, like the stuff with the kids and it or welcome to dairy.

That's some of the best stuff that they're, or weapons.

I mean, all the weapons that just, that's just for that is, that is fire.

Ace up to you, sir, horror expert that you are.

Okay.

So this thing also has a, an initial thing that you need to look out for.

And right at the beginning, it says Blumhouse.

And that is another studio that is a major hit and miss in terms of the horror genre.

Now, there are two things as well, though, that I do want to give it credit that it worked in its favor.

One, James one and two, the studio that did bring us weapons.

I'll tell you right now, say what you want about James one.

He's got a better, he's got a more positive track record than a negative one.

Yeah, but I, I will say I truly find him to be hit or miss as well.

Like, I really do like, it plays into the Blumhouse.

With the, like, fetus in her head, like, whatever that one was.

I thought that was dumb, just straight up dumb.

But anyway, that's just me.

Well, and James one works for Blumhouse.

It works in the favor of Blumhouse because Blumhouse doesn't do gore really.

Right.

But they do do jump scares.

And this movie is going to be full of jump scares, especially if James one is attached to it.

So be ready for that.

It's definitely creepy.

It's got a different look behind it than most Blumhouse films.

So again, I, I like to think it works in, it works in a more positive favor than what I would normally associate with a Blumhouse film.

Yeah, no, I, I think that's fair.

Like I said, the trailer is a good trailer.

Yeah.

Like, in my opinion, it's a very good trailer.

I think it does a great job of really setting up to me.

To me, it felt more mystery thriller.

Ask with creepy horror, horror elements as opposed to that straight up horror.

Like the big question is, what the hell happened to this kid?

And what, how did we get there?

No.

The fact that there were like 56 other mummies and none of them are alive.

I'll be concerning.

Look, I'm just going to say it too.

Like that, that child is messed up looking.

I don't know how quickly I'm taking that kid home.

Right.

Like, why would I be like, yes, yes, she needs me in more ways than what it's not just like a personal, not just like a personal thing of just like.

But also like, I'm pretty sure you're going to be in an institution for a little while.

A doctor of some sort should be looking at an emaciated child that's been pulled out of a sarcophagus for eight years.

Like, how are we explaining this?

But that's okay.

I have other mysteries of the universe I need to solve.

Like how in the world this podcast with the sports fans that we are, miss the trailer for this series on Amazon that play.

I think hits Amazon Prime streaming two weeks ago about around Valentine's Day ish if I'm not mistaken.

And that is soul power, the legend of the American basketball association.

And for those of you who are perhaps of the younger generations.

Once upon a time in the United States, there were two professional basketball leagues.

There was the NBA that we all know and love and so exists today.

And many of the franchises that are currently a part of the NBA were once part of a basketball organization that challenged the NBA known as the American basketball association.

They're most famous player of all time, arguably as Dr. J, Julie serving.

It's a fascinating document.

Other names George Carl was heavily involved with the ABA Larry Brown.

Oh gosh.

Very very.

George, what a million points down there.

Right.

And so it has this interesting, like sort of 10 year history.

It started in the late 60s, indeed, mid to late 70s.

I want to say like 76, 77 somewhere in there is where the ABA kind of says goodbye.

Like just before it was born, but it was a very interesting period in a league that did everything it could to be an upstart to the NBA.

And some of the greatest players of all time, some of them even cut their teeth in the ABA before going to the NBA.

I mean, he not being picked or drafted the NBA, but go to the ABA showing the thing a play and then being poached by the ABA.

It was very interesting.

It gave us the three point shot.

It gave us the slam dunk contest.

I've, I start.

I've been watching this series all weekend.

I have one episode left at the end of the ABA and how that all falls apart.

It's been a very cool series.

And I was going to say before watching, but we're also talking about the trailer.

And it's just so fascinating to learn how many different things the ABA created as a catalyst for modernizing basketball and pushing the NBA forward into an era that we now recognize today.

He hasn't spoken yet this whole trailer park really.

We're just start with Tony and his reactions to this trailer basketball fan that he is as well.

And that's not a joke.

He likes professional basketball.

Tony, take it away.

Your thoughts on this trailer and are you going to check this out?

It's funny.

I do like professional basketball more than college, even though I can't stand the fact that you can travel now.

Um, I think playing sports as much as I have and as many different sports I have for as long as I had in my life.

There's nothing more fun to me than like a pickup game of basketball.

Right?

Like just getting out there and like a good four on four game is so much fun.

The ABA kind of represents that the up and down nature of the ABA.

Like the flow, you know, it was a lot prettier game than the NBA.

But I have to say when it comes to sports in America, the Americans stand no chance against the nationals.

The nationals continue to just dominate the Americans, whether it's basketball or football.

You never, you know, you don't remember the American baseball league either because they got, no, they never existed.

But this seems fun.

I wish they'd bring back the red, white and blue ball.

I think that was pretty cool.

But yeah, it's true.

Dr. J for not coming to the box when we drafted him that son of a bitch.

That was a tape.

Wow.

He did.

He did try to go to the hawks too for 10 days.

That didn't work either.

Uh, uh, right.

Oh, that's over to you.

Your thoughts on the ABA documentary.

So, so I, I'll speak to the genuinely.

I'm the one that he did just did.

The ABA is there is only a bit about the ABA and I know that sounds crazy.

Because of what we know the, the NBA to be now.

But they're always like to tell you the story of how when magic before magic and bird came to the league in 84 or 80 at 80.

I'm sorry.

Seven, nine, seven, nine and 80 respectively.

The legal ones, the finals were on tape delay.

Nobody was watching.

And those two helped reinvigorate the league.

You know how else they helped to reinvigorate the league?

They stole all the stuff that made the ABA fun.

And I don't still is a bad word because the ABA kind of this, this, this, uh, disbanded and was divested into the NBA.

They're absorbed, absorbed is a better word.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. lawyer.

I appreciate that.

It's a singularity.

I'm here.

And to, but it's so, but you know, the things we know now.

So all of us five grew up in a sports center-esque generation where highlights were a part of our day and part of our sports watching.

Can you imagine watching any type of basketball highlight without the majority of it being revolved around some sort of slam dunk or some sort of crazy three.

You can't.

And the reason the reason we're able to do that is because the ABA allowed those things to thrive.

They created the three-point line.

They didn't just take the slam dunk because if you remember, when cream up door, your bar was dunking on everybody down at UCLA.

That was basketball banned the dunk.

Like people didn't want to use the dunk because I thought it was too easy for certain people to use.

And other, let's say, undercurrents of revolving it.

So the ABA was such an amazing.

It's okay, Ray.

You can say the white people couldn't dunk.

It's fine.

What Patrick said.

They made a movie about it, Ray.

Well, sure, but I mean, you know, I don't want to, I'm the black dude.

I don't want to always be saying the black stuff.

You can, you can hear Jimmy, but you ain't listening.

So the ABA was also the ABA was counterculture before counterculture was cool with the way they dressed, where they acted.

If you've seen my pro, that it's not too far gone from a lot of the things that were happening in some of these and some of these franchises.

But it's also really, really cool and not lost on me that a lot of the secondary leaks have created the things that make the major leaks cool.

The original XFL was a joke, but you know how much shit the NFL stole from the XFL camera angles and whatnot.

So all it is is just bad business, but good ideas.

And so slam dunk, Michael Jordan is the greatest player of all time.

But a lot of that was predicated off of air, dunking the things he could do that nobody else could do.

Steph Curry is one of the greatest players of all time.

He's a great player.

He's actually really underrated in the pain.

But you know for one thing that boys shooting from 75 feet away.

So like thank the ABA for the things they've done for society.

They think the ABA they think for things they've done for sports and fashion and culture and all of these things.

I mean, you see the the the the afros flying and not the J play games with a pick in his hair, bro.

What are we doing?

Like you don't tell him about it.

So there's a whole there's a whole section of the documentary that talks about the like the fashion and look of players and Dr. J is at the center of it.

One of the other things that one of the other things I think is cool that I did not know until I watched this documentary is did you know that Bob costus's first gig was played by play for the St. Louis ABA franchise.

The spirits.

Yeah.

Yeah, I seriously watched this documentary and you talked about like the way the game changed.

It really impacted how contracts work and how players could play because before the ABA you couldn't be a professional basketball player in the NBA until your college class graduated college.

That's right.

And it's not Julie serving.

I can't remember the name of the player that they brought on, but they signed this guy after one year of college.

He then played that year won the MVP.

They looked at his contract as lawyer finally looked at his contract.

And they were like, you're making this much money, but he was really making significantly less.

He then jumped shipped and challenged the NBA's talent rule, which resulted in an antitrust lawsuit.

That's right.

That's right.

No, no way before O'Bannon, this study, if you found the name, you, your mic was up into it.

Okay.

I'll look it up.

I'll effort it.

Spencer Haywood.

Thank you.

Spencer Haywood.

Yeah.

So Spencer Haywood wasn't going to be able to play in the NBA.

So he signed with the ABA at age 19 when he turned 20 and his contract.

I saw that his contract was ripping him off.

He went to then go be signed by the sonics in the NBA.

And they, other teams refused to allow him in the arena.

They would put in junctions against him playing.

So he suited it went all the way up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court ruled it an antitrust,

a ruled in favor of an antitrust lawsuit to allow him to play.

And that is why you have, you can have 18 to 20 year old or 22 year olds at basketball before they.

For the record and the history of every sport ever created and played in America.

There are not 10 people who are more interesting and have more of a crazy story than Spencer Haywood.

If you care anything about sports, I would, I would implore you to go look up what that man has gone through,

what he's done, what he's dealt with.

My God.

Talk about a legend.

And now it's crazy.

You can go to the G league and then come back and play at Rutgers.

So it's not a big deal.

But at Rutgers, or wherever, you know, probably getting signed to the NBA,

then going back into the draft.

It was Alabama.

Well, Betty.

Betty.

Taco got denied though, but it Betty, Taco guy.

Oh, they got a little bit in the dude and Ella didn't do play for Alabama though.

He played like one game.

He's still playing.

He was in the league.

He did.

But then he got injilted.

So Dave, the last thoughts wrap up soul power force.

Yeah, it's, it's one I want to check out.

Did I skip you too?

It's fine.

It's fine.

I only have a lot of know of a lot of knowledge about the ABA, but that's fine.

It's, it's cool.

I think Dave should go big deal.

It looks like he spent six hours talking about the horror genre too.

So like I, the shirt you're wearing really does lead us to believe you have a lot of knowledge about the ABA by the way.

Yeah, my, my nerves.

Somebody.

He talked about this.

I think like.

Go ahead, Dave.

I was going to say, first of all, let me just tell you, the ABA is not dead.

It's still currently running.

There are over 120 teams in the ABA and have been roughly 700 different teams since 2000.

So it's, it's still around.

And you can buy your own ABA franchise for a mere $10,000.

Let's go have fun with that.

Like opening up a subway.

It's like open up a subway.

Like it is getting traded for a lot of machines.

Dog with this.

Yeah.

I'll tell you right now.

I was just busy trying to look up what the, some of the, the ridiculous names that are on there.

Because let me tell you, there's a bunch.

If I, if I can tell you anything, go and look up the ABA in terms of teams.

And that'll just give you a lot of joy seeing some of the garbage names that were put out there.

But yeah, I'll, I'll catch this because like, like Ray, like Pat, like you said, like a lot of people just straight up.

The ABA is fun.

There was a lot of weird gimmicks and a lot of weird stuff that got brought into real life.

And I mean, why not?

Let's, let's get some more of the lesser known entities.

Dave, anything else before I build this up?

Yeah, the only thing I would say, the big thing I took away from the ABA is that they did more to break down the racial barriers

than the NBA ever did.

And I think the ABA was instrumental in that because you had black and white fans that you talk about it on the trailer,

getting together and cheering this, this new fresh approach that the ABA had to basketball.

What I didn't realize until I looked it up, is that near the end of it right before the merger,

when the two leagues would have exhibition games, the ABA was winning 60% of those.

So there is a, it's very analogous to the way the AFL kind of forced the merger with the NFL by beating them in the Super Bowl two years in a row.

So I thought that was kind of interesting.

Yeah, that is one of the great sort of stats to look at because there were a lot of naysayers about the town level at the ABA.

And obviously that wasn't, it wasn't the case.

The other last, last fun fact that I learned out of this documentary is that the first woman owned franchise to win a championship was in the ABA in Kentucky.

Fun, fun, fun.

The kernels.

I love, I love the, the old G ABA names.

Come on.

The San Luis Pierce, the Virginia Chaparral's like some dope.

Was, was, was Colonel Sanders?

Was that the mascot, Colonel Sanders?

No, no, but there was definitely some Kentucky fried chicken connections that did happen on that show.

Definitely go watch his career clearly in the nets from, yeah.

Right. Clearly we as a group endorse this show, even if we haven't watched it, even if some of us haven't watched it all yet.

I think most of us are going to.

All right.

Last trailer.

I'm going to let Ray talk on this one first because he is the flag bearer for the, the new border combat film franchise.

A franchise that I don't mind exists, but I don't need it to exist.

And, you know, and that's fine.

I, Carl Urban's in it.

He's Johnny Cage, grizzled, tired of life.

Johnny, he's basically, I don't know.

Sure.

He has been pulled into the other world, the tournament to fight for the, you know, Earth's existence.

I can see that ASAP should talk about this second, but.

I had a argument on air about this very movie.

The first one.

Here's the thing is, it's, it's a perfectly harmless film, perfectly harmless film.

This will be a perfectly harmless film.

It'll probably do fine.

And, you know, the first one did well enough to board a sequel.

The OG Mortal Kombat series.

That, that generated more films than it deserved to.

So I can always, I can only imagine what this is.

One other one.

No, I think there's a third one out there somewhere.

There wasn't.

No, it was trash.

No, it was, it was, it was garbage.

I'm, I'm going to look it up while Ray talks, while Ray talks about that.

I'm going to effort the OG Mortal Kombat series.

The third one was on Pornhub.

Finish him.

Right, Tony?

Finish him.

More whole combat.

Kind of writes itself, right?

It does.

It's perfectly does.

These are my friends, y'all.

Um, say it louder.

So, so I don't want to, to, to fake the funk and make people think that I think Mortal Kombat is like Scorsese and Jace.

I know what it is.

We understand what we're getting into when we watch the movie.

But what I appreciated about it and enjoyed in the first movie and what I'm looking forward to in the second movie is.

I appreciate the adaptation of what the characters did and how they got to where they got.

Yeah, I know, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

I enjoyed it very much.

I enjoy origins.

I enjoy learning why people have the ability to do things.

So I don't agree with everything that happened in that movie.

And I know a lot of the, a lot of the point of contention in the movie amongst a lot of other things was that the main character was a dude that's not in the game.

You ain't see one image of him in the commercial for this.

Now, to that point, I love Carl Urban.

We all love Carl Urban, Billy Butcher amongst a many other things.

I was watching the old one of my favorite movies with my kids that we watched when they were little Pete's dragon.

Carl Urban's in Pete's fucking dragon.

He's been in everything.

Carl Urban is a note.

I am Johnny Cage more than Carl Urban is that junk.

That's not Johnny Cage, bro.

There's no way, form, fashion.

It hurts my heart to see him try to be Johnny Cage.

I hate it.

I hate it with everything in my being.

So that's going to hurt the enjoyment of this movie a little bit.

I actually was hoping for miss to get the role even though he wouldn't have been the best Johnny Cage.

But he's been ten times better.

However, we're finally getting into the actual tournament, which we didn't get into last one because the never realm or whatever.

I can't remember the fucking others.

Because they were planning for sequels.

Right.

Well, franchise.

But I'm in terms of the in terms of the story.

And some was like, I fucking with these dudes.

We going to get them before we get to the tournament.

But they ain't no tournament.

That didn't work.

So we get the tournament.

We're getting to see some stuff.

Raka actually looks.

As good as you can make Barack a look.

Without full CGI.

Because Goro I believe was full CGI.

Yeah.

Better than whatever.

Whatever they did with Molina.

Well, see that's the thing about that race of people and they face his dogs.

It's kind of really hard to pull that shit off.

Yeah.

In a pretty.

But Jackson.

I think Jackson's done well.

I think Sonny was done well.

I think Luke Kang was done well.

I hate that they killed off Kung Lao.

We just disagree with my boy.

I'm sorry.

So just to just interject.

The original Mortal Kombat film came out in 1995.

It's currently sitting at IMDB with a Metascore 60.

Mortal Kombat in Isolation came out in 1997.

That is sitting at a Metascore of 11.

Yeah.

Then in 1998 we got a series, TV series, Mortal Kombat Conquest.

That is so good.

It has no rating.

Oh, it has a 6.2 star rating.

Let's see chronologically.

So that's 99.

Then we take about a 10 year break for Mortal Kombat rebirth.

There's, there's a lot.

There, there's a lot.

Yeah.

You got to love white people playing Asian gods.

That's always fun.

Hey, Christopher Lambert was totally believable.

A 13 slash 14 year old PC Tony got his 67 year old grandfather

and 62 year old grandmother to take him to go see the original Mortal Kombat movie in the theaters.

I saw.

And grandma said that was very nice.

And grandpa was like, that was a lot better than I thought.

Can I tell you I will admit that I dragged my, I don't think I dragged my parents

because by that time I was old enough to go to a movie on my own.

I may have paid money to see annihilation in the theater.

These are the same grandparents that took the five six-year-old Tony to platoon, by the way.

Second one, dog.

Ooh.

I did it.

I did it.

Go ahead.

Stop.

Tell me why I'm wrong.

Well, yeah.

And then we got to take our first course break.

So.

Okay.

Well, I'll tell you right now.

I'll start off by saying Ray is this one does look better than the first one.

I will give it that much credit because that first movie is boring.

You have one character that is worth a damn.

And that's cano.

He's the only one that ever gave me any sort of reason to actually want to like listen.

And clearly they know how good he was because they brought him back from the goddamn dead in this movie.

That is already types of all types of questionable, but whatever it is what it is.

That first movie was so boring and Raiden with a complete jag the whole time.

The CGI was just dog shit.

Cole Han is exactly what you said he was.

He was terrible and the idea that they're going to create a brand new entity to be the main character is just wild.

And then you had like horrible characters getting brought in like Rayco, right?

Isn't that the the big ass Nathan Jones was playing like just some horrible character choices.

They butchered Natara.

Like what the hell is that?

This movie my favorite character of all time they put him in that.

He was a choice.

I don't think he was bad.

I just think there's still is an opera.

There was an opportunity to make him better and make him more important than what he actually got.

This new movie I think I think it looks it looks better than what it is.

And I will say don't hate on the Carl urban choice right now, but I will tell you right now from that trailer.

He is not Johnny Cage.

There is zero sass, zero backtalk, zero wit.

And that just is what Johnny Cage is known for.

And so I'm going to ask this question to the group because I do think has Carl urban hit that stage in acting?

Where it's not a character.

It's just Carl urban in a look.

No, no, because Carl urban has the, this is funny.

Certain certain actors have the ability to do this.

They are different characters with them without facial hair.

There's Carl urban, clean shaving.

And there's Carl urban with the beard with the beard.

You think of guys like Billy butchers.

You think of guys like to do from Ragnarok.

And then you think of when he plays without the clean shave and stuff.

I think of my boy from be stragging.

I think of some of my love family friendly can talk to my mom's like he has that ability to switch.

But they think he has a bit typecast based on the facial hair.

I give you that.

Those two to know to say.

Earl urban is more of a playful individual.

So like Billy butcher is Carl urban, right?

This Johnny Cage as of right now does not show that to be Carl urban.

Also, by the way, at first mortal combat also very well known for having Brigitte Wilson.

Who then left before the sequel could go to go and shoot Billy Madison.

So thank you, Brigitte.

Tony, you're about to chime in.

It's Billy butcher.

Dave period.

It's look.

I didn't care much for the first movie.

I think we actually reviewed that on the nerd review back in the day pad.

And it was just, yeah, if it's going to make Ray happy, I'm happy.

But I've got zero interest in this thing.

And Black History Month ended yesterday.

It's fine.

You don't have to make him happy.

Oh.

Well, I wanted to have to belong.

The show was offended Ray.

Why don't you change your name to Cody Cash, you know, just, you know, too.

You know, there's no.

Are you just changing your name?

Ray.

Ray, you know, I love you.

You know, I love you.

Nothing but love.

That's funny.

So.

All right.

Rick.

Is my tar of the said tar thing.

Yes.

He was played by an American gladiator in annihilation.

Yes.

That's right.

Right.

They played the California dude.

Anyway, I don't remember his name.

To sometimes.

That's it.

As Mrs American gladiators come out yet.

I don't know.

There's a new American gladiator coming out and Mrs.

Yeah, Mrs.

Yeah, he's the host and,

because that's the reason why ward low and commingle weren't quote unquote used.

Cause they were on the show.

What am I.

Is one of my nick names is.

The ceiling.

Yeah.

That was a year ago.

All right.

Well, we'll look for that in the future.

When that trailer hits we'll watch that on a trailer park.

I'm sure we're gonna take our first commercial break.

News around the nerves fear before we hand the show over to Mr. Ray Cash, so stick around for all of that

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I was having a good I was having a good vacation come home on Wednesday and

I opened up the internet after getting off the cruise ship because you don't have internet on a cruise ship unless you pay for it and I'm like

Huh Paramount's still trying huh as they offered yet another bid to purchase water brothers discovery

Shortly thereafter a variety article pops up where water brothers discovery says this is a better deal Netflix than your deal

You have two days to to match it or or we're gonna stop this this merger Netflix win that's cool bro

That's cool bro dooses stepped out of the negotiation and cleared the way for Paramount to finally after about seven bajillion attempts to purchase water brothers discovery finally does now

I'm gonna do the little politically part first as to why this matters and why I'm very concerned about this Dave Ellison who is the lead purchaser of this is a

deeply embedded billionaire tied to the president of the United States Donald Trump was at the state of the union address as a guest of the GOP

The day before this turn of events happened and then the turn of events happens and if this gets approved which a

C no reason why it won't with how fast it's being allowed to be fast tracked and move forward means that CNN CBS a large portion of our news networks a large portion of our entertainment networks will actually have

deeply strong ties to a political party and the president of the United States and that is in my opinion and I will say this in Patrick Odds opinion horrible for the entertainment industry

because we are getting closer that is that is closer closer to state run media and that will impact the type of films we get it will impact the type of news

you receive it will impact the type of articles that you read and that is very very important to keep in mind and utter

consideration while we look at this purchase that has changed the other thing I don't buy and this is about

the purchase itself is that this is magically going to mean that more water brothers films will end up in theaters every one of these

mergers that happens and takes place actually results in the purchased company having less output than what they did before they were

merged this happened with Fox this has happened with God I'm going to I forget a couple of the others but there's a there's a whole

running staff like if you get murder like if another company buys you and mergers your company puts out less stuff so quite

the turn from where we were two weeks ago before I went on vacation we'll go with the lawyer first yeah this this certainly

came out of nowhere right I mean we've been talking for two months about how you know it's like dude she doesn't

want to date you that's how we kind of analogize this for weeks it for like a couple months was like every bid that

paramount made the shareholders were against it to the staggering amount of what 86 96% of the shareholders

holders one of the Netflix deal but you get to a point where if you're if you're water brothers and this last

deal jump from $30 a share to $31 a share plus with the ticker plus water or a paramount saying yes Netflix we will pay

the 2.8 billion for the deal breaker here at some point and and you know I have nothing but respect for Netflix

for walking the fuck away from this thing and saying no dog this is this is there were a lot of people in Netflix when you

read this variety article a lot of people at Netflix who were very concerned about this deal didn't think it was in their

best interests are probably breathing a hefty sigh of relief that they do not have to go through with this thing

and they got paid 2.8 billion just for the threat of actually acquiring water brothers so it to me the big

winner in this whole thing is Netflix don't kid yourself they won this whole thing yes they don't get the

Warner Brothers library they don't get all that stuff they also don't take on $7 billion worth of debt

that paramount is taking on right now to pull this thing off everything you said politically is very true

Pat that it does create a situation where you know paramount now has a big controlling stake in many

assets and facets of mainstream media which I think this nation is still far too reliant on mainstream media

and it still has too much of a sway on this thing from the standpoint of you know what paramount is going to get

with this I do think that you know that you will see an impact on this in the theaters with less things going that way

I mean some of the big franchises you know the DC stuff may not feel at that much but some of the other ones will

but you know it's at some point you know and I like what Netflix did they did not wait to say deuces

they said the guys like if you know after day one that you're not going to match this and why wait 4 days to it they just said

we're out of here and I think that was the right move to make clue the pathway from Netflix there's got to be people laugh

and say if you guys are willing to do this much just to get this shitty deal by all means kill yourself

I don't I it's a surprising turn of events to be sure because it didn't seem like it was possible but if you just

going to keep throwing money at a company sooner or later zaz laughs going to be like what am I going to do right now

and that's what they did and zaz laugh even said he was like I've got like we have absolutely nothing to lose

like if this if this doesn't go through we just keep trying to sell order brothers yeah so make no mistake Netflix won this deal clearly

and I mean it was really interesting their stocks jumped like 10%

yes with right after they just one of their shareholders said who we dodged the boat there

it's it's just a fascinating it's just fascinating how hard they hammered after this I'm going to go to my left of Dave here

although counterclockwise to me so Ray you with the purple explosion behind you your thoughts on this stunning change

first off as a comic book background get it right shout about a rare madness secondly a lot of people will have you believe today

that this is just a very simple business deal and there's not a lot of people uniquely qualified to talk about this as much as us

because to our chagrin we have covered this weekly damn near four months since the beginning so we all have a unhealthy

amount of knowledge about the happenings of the deals the chat chatter the conversation and whatnot

which leads me to my second point that Patrick really kind of touched on I am aware that in this country that we live in

there are a number of people that like to pick and choose the laws that they can will and should obey

but there are a number of things that the founders of this country deemed important so important that they made it the very first amendment

and it's called the five freedoms one of those freedoms is called freedom of the press freedom of the press is one of the very things that

differentiates our democracy a republic which if you want to be specific whatever you consider us from a lot of other countries

that are dictatorships or oligarchies or kingdoms of what not because here you have the right if you are a journalist

or a a a pundit whatever you want to call it a five-year-brones who just get on a call and talk whatever and you can criticize the government

well they you're for right for your bones and a violent gentleman and and you can talk about the government about our

leadership and you will not be held to task right so also that allows that if there is corruption in said areas

you are allowed to be the whistleblower or to report on these things and possibly bring about change

there is no freedom of the press if the people who the government owns works with or is in conjunction with

all of the press which is a big portion of the reason why the people who own paramount or run paramount or are funding paramount wanted this deal

and so I won't go into the specifics of it because we've got a lot of people on the show today we got a lot to talk about other things to do

but this is way more going back to my initial point in a simple business deal and I am disgusted right now

I don't care about Tony has had the best take on all of this the entire time who gives a flying fuck about billionaires and their billionaire problems

but today I am disgusted at these billionaire problems because this billionaire problems are going to affect us hundred dollar folk

you're getting a hundred dollars well I don't know I'm just saying like a hundred dollars is doable for us right you know I'm not a billionaire but I can get a hundred dollars

right all right let's roll into PC Tony just comments I am concerned about our franchise too like what does this mean for like DC

what does this mean yeah we talked about that shit right I go ahead but so yeah like the millionaires and the billionaires let me tell you how much I care about this Patrick

I applaud that man all right Mr. Warts is Mike is up

well your bike is hot hey well look I'll I'll actually care because there are a lot of things that I am unsure about with this acquisition

not only like the franchises like you were saying before but like some of the lesser ones too I wonder like some of the original programming that HBO has

you know what happens to that just John Oliver keep his job if they if they got Colbert out the paint that I don't know I would bet you that John Oliver gets a pretty high viewership between his thing

honestly it doesn't really matter his podcast will be great I look at God it's going to be interesting someone will pick him up I'm sure but yeah I mean we've already kind of went through the

the lack of that freedom that Ray mentioned earlier in the year I should say in the overall year right with the the Kimmel situation and among other things I know it's it's happened a lot more in more local markets let's just open pray yeah I guess I mean we'll see right technically it's still

last to be approved I do know there's congressional interest in in this process and how this is gone the way it is so who knows it could be rejected by the FCC LOL haha we'll see what happens LOL but I mean theoretically it's still got some

hoops to get through all right let's move on to more of our wheelhouse things that we actually do care to talk about these should be some quick hits for us in the news around the

industry the first one thing would that be some shit if it got blocked on anti-trust violations that paramount was trying to lob against Netflix now that be some funny shit that would be that would be really funny and then it turns out that

flies it is a personal prize anyway we'll see what happens but the first salvo in the doom doom's day opening weekend story has hit and that is that if you would like to see Avengers

doomsday on iMacs opening weekends in the United States you will not because doon

won the race and opening weekend doon 3 I can't remember what I don't know if it's kind of a subtitle to it yet but doon 3 got first dibs basically and so come

first or whatever it is if you are hoping to see doomsday on an iMacs at your local iMacs theater you are not going to be able to now

tani was very quick quick clarify that while I said bad news tani he will still get his ex where the dude like feels your face while you're watching the movie gives you a little like Kentucky fried movie

which is you in the chest when the gun shots go off tani vis you know rubs rubs the shoulders when all that good stuff has it anyway I pay a gnome to sit and tickle my feet as well

put down that nice carol be way of ridiculous it's an interesting I don't know that it's really that big a deal

I do think it's a very interesting thing as these two movies either one is budging and out is like who's gonna get the best

I don't think that this means that dude's gonna magically beat doomsday in the box office but that is a bigger source of of ticket revenue that is going to do over doomsday

hey stop you can go first this time can I be honest I don't really can't say you don't care

and that I'll be frank like marvel has a lot to to make up for in my life because the track record watch wonder man no it's good no I most of the most of the TV series were nothing to me

and I tried I tried to watch them all and I got over it I didn't even see fantastic for and that is I thought for sure I would see

I'm just like whatever it's marvel they they got it is clearly quit at least I'm marvel man I'm just gonna I'm gonna be honest that like Darry is feels like too ambitious too ambitious of a overall

the movie thing though is like three of the best thing they've done especially in a long while have just happened between Thunderbolts fantastic four and Wonderman they fucking hit three three run home runs right there

well I will say Dave Dave and I is perspective I've always been sort of divergent a little bit when it comes to marvel and I think are like you you have I remember a couple years ago the villain problem that that you discussed when it comes to the MCU

what is the thing I will say if and I would encourage you to check out wonder man because it's it legitimately isn't like anything I've seen marvel even try to do in a long long time the superhero element and aspect of it does kind of take a back seat to Simon Williams and what he's trying to do and accomplish he is he does have powers but it's interesting how this show has it play out

it's just very different than anything that they've done in a long time and that's all and that's that's what I'll say about that no I'm I don't know it like like I just think it's it's a it's very different in my opinion no I'm not I'm not it's better than what I've been recommended in the past in terms of like why you should go and see

X movie or TV show because like they did that kind of with Hawkeye and I thought Hawkeye was boring as hell

and you might find it you might find wonder man boring like I'm I'm not saying you will I just I do think it isn't to go to do something different with with a hero and a character and I thought it was really interesting Ray I'll hand it over to you and we'll just go Ray Dave Tony

tell me Ray tell me some of you him used to be friends told I mean you heard my heart there with the Hawkeye thing it's cool he doesn't deserve the devil the devil shot it's okay I still love you well look I still love you I've said this before in the past two Christmas movies and TV shows episodes of TV shows kind of suck so again that's why you got me for Patrick there I don't give a fuck about Christmas shit yeah I fucking love Christmas shit so to the point I'm gonna use a term that I think a lot of people are gonna mistake the point I'm gonna

the point of the term this is dirty boxing I don't mean dirty in the sense that it's foul I mean it's dirty in the sense that it's really clever how they got in rope a dope they ask and hit them in a couple of places to get a little bit ahead this is a very smart thing for them to do because as clearly

I don't believe doomsday is going to dog walk doom when I didn't say that I did not say that okay I just said I don't really care about doomsday respect respect I understand and I don't I don't I disagree with you entirely but I don't fault your reasoning for that I understand your reasoning completely but from my vantage point like it don't like it whatever it is this one

this movie in terms of view ability people who are going to want to go see it curiosity just box office numbers is going to dog walk didn't even the weave and doing three and don't

three might be the better actual viewing experience I don't know it's going to dog walk them so it is very smart of them to get in they put a TNA yeah okay we can't get

as we can't get a TV channel so we buy the fucking TV channel they partner with IMAX to get this shit in the IMAX so the biggest movie may be of all time can't be an IMAX when it comes out and again dirty boxing right because

doing half the day first and more like not son we got it some day they came back they brought them in close and they have what is

they bitch has one good time just to remind them hey I see you my boy are you boxing I think it's clever as hell I'm being I'm going to be seeing

initiated in Tony vision then so put the know about my feet and and and and the hookers in my lap and whatever else the blow on my

fingers in my whatever Tony does we see the movies I'm watching that way because I'm not going to see

that weekend I'm going to see Marvel I have said this multiple times now that I think raise over confidence in

the same and Avengers doomsday is interesting I do agree that it will probably dominate this box office weekend and I don't

think that Marvel gives a flying fuck that it's not an IMAX it will make zero difference I still think that these guys should probably

like have a sit down meeting with each other and say how can we best leverage this so that we both benefit to the

maximum extent from the fact that these two movies are coming out so close to each other I mean I raise

shaking it said like yeah Marvel and this you don't care they probably get from what can they get from

Dune from HBO nothing or from Jordan brothers yeah nothing I don't have cooperation you know that's but if

they are really going for this whole barbenheimer sort of scenario everybody everybody yeah I don't think that I

don't think that it matters at all the fact that this is I mean it almost makes Dune a niche sort of film now

that the best way to see this in IMAX because you can't see doomsday in IMAX but use a thing I'm going to say

that says a big fan of Dune and have watched both the villain lives versions I understand because that

film it reminds me when I first went and saw the Lord of the Rings in theaters the experience itself is

significantly different in changes in it's it's like Christopher Nolan is like this as well when he

makes his films where he is always in as much as I hate him Jim Cameron they are the guys and the

directors that are trying to push the limits of the movie theater going experience and Dune and Dune

too really do I will say this I'll say this Dune 3 is going to be the better viewing experience in IMAX

than doomsday I absolutely believe it will be the better viewing experience on IMAX as far as just a

viewing experience will it be the better movie maybe maybe not will it outgrow stume stay no chance in

hell there's zero chance in hell of that but dogs agree yeah they do I get I get why they're doing it well

let's talk about a movie franchise that is not going to outgrow either of them because Paramount

bless their heart they keep trying they keep trying we're no this is Paramount so I'm okay okay Paramount

first read your rundown I got it boy they're trying to make a GI Joe movie work and boy are they

certainly barking up a direction if the rumors writers these films are true as the rumor is much

blind and troubled sexual abuse accused writer Max Landis and comedian writer Danny McBride are

writing two separate scripts that will potentially be merged to make one script or the other story

floating about is one of those two scripts will go and the other will not I only shared this

because when I read this story I was like this is ridiculous this this can't be true and then I

looked at who posted and reported it and variety tends to to to check these things and so for

variety to be the one that posted this news I grew up on GI Joe I love GI Joe GI Joe has not worked

as a film franchise four times now Paramount you got to let it go and if you are going to try

these are not the two dudes to write the script I'm sorry I'm sorry Paramount you got to let it go we know

that they are not going to let it go we just this is a good point Paramount doesn't seem to care

about the consent very much not do they do they better off bringing GI Joe franchise back as an

adult animated series like invincible sure that's amazing watchmen with an amazing cast though but I

mean yeah but I mean like now like right now like an amazing ridiculous voice cast behind it

make it a little bit more adult but tame enough so that you could still have teenagers get into it

that's what they need to do if you hop on Amazon if you hop on Amazon it's search GI Joe there was

I can't remember what the name it was like a mini series but like it literally opens within

coming upon the corpse of um doctor um doctor or not major blood major blood the character major

blood who's been killed like and and I do I agree that I think that's a better direction like I don't

know why the transformers can work as a film franchise and they can't kid GI Joe right I think that

transforming robots I do think make a little bit more science fiction since it's something we're

going to wrap our head around as opposed to special American operations that army team yeah very

simply for you and I know at least two of the four of you are going to disagree but I'm talking

about the masses not individually transformers to the masses as a fun movie sure yes nothing fun

about GI Joe I mean you ever seen shipwreck he's pretty funny oh yeah oh I didn't say there aren't

fun people the only GI Joe movie I ever enjoyed had more than weigh-ins as uh whatever the

the the head guy whatever head because mom is funny but but the movies in general don't seem to

be funny plus when the people you hired to be the star of the movie don't want to be in the movie

chatting to him was like kill me now this is not a good thing I'm gonna think of a paramount for

five seconds because fuck them but I understand this one thing I understand why they keep

wanting to do GI Joe movies because before they got net before this shit happened and they

and they stole a fucking winning to Warner Bros and stole they shit they don't have no real

like movie characters that they can really keep going with and clearly they're not the most

you know creative people over there so like you this you could only throw out time crews and do

top gun or mission impossible so many dept what else they got they they got going you from saying

so yeah please I need to finish watching the mission impossible in the last and last thing I

want to say is DJ shot the DJ minus rest and podcast 30 minus minutes is the one who brought up

the last um transformers movie we had with the homie Anthony Raymos ended with a post credit teaser

of the Joe's meeting up with the transformer people like y'all don't even care about

continuity and yo shit so well they've met up before they they they've been they've been brought

together in comics in the past and stuff but if they're if they're doing a new GI Joe movie that

this doesn't seem like it's part of the sequence no no not at all this is we're trying to make fetch

happen again and it's just not working there we go asop last thoughts on this one well the reason why

the first run of GI Joe movies the what I shouldn't say first I don't know but like that late

the Channing table yeah the reason why they didn't work gross witness yeah is because they changed

way too damn much and that right there is really going to make people insane well especially when it's

when it's like every thing killed Duke like Duke leaves the sequel so that the rock can take over

because Channing Tatum hated the movie yeah yeah I get what you're saying but like as a fan you

asked you you just told me about being a fan as a fan you can't do fucking GI Joe without Duke

that was Hasbro was in Hasbro or Mattel whoever whoever did the cartoons they learned that the

hard way in the animated version of the Transformers movie because they killed Optimus Prime and

that literally killed the cartoon killed the franchise and they were like whoa well we can't they

were going to do it to Duke as well and they retconned the animated film that they couldn't release

the theaters it was released on TV and direct a video but they were going to kill Duke and they

put him in a coma because they learned the hard way people cared about the characters they gave a

shit yes yes and that's why you're you're totally fine like I said that's the reason why those

movies failed so bad especially like you said roadblock I'm sorry the most iconic thing about

roadblock is he speaks in fucking rhymes and we didn't get any of that bullshit and that's what

we're missing look there it can work but under the the current the current atmosphere of the world

being so military driven and maybe it's best to hold off on any sort of military themes just

you're going to get a lot of pushback right I do think that if the I do think in a world where

the Transformers in G.I. Joe are in the same place that it could work because you could have them

focusing on Cobra and the Decepticons and by the way and the Autobots the first Transformers movie

stuck to continuity for the most part right and was fun then the second movie came out and they

started to fuck with everything and that's when it really fell off and the people started to be

like wow this is garbage and the whole life's ads everywhere like what the fuck is this

nights of the round table shit yeah what are we doing here yeah Mark Walberg again all right

speaking of people trying too hard Sony it it a Q&A this past week and forgive me if I don't

remember the representative from Sony that shared this basic answered yes to the question as to

whether or not the Sony spiderverse worlds would get another chance under the Sony umbrella and

they answered yes twice they basically answered yes to a reboot kill me one Dave has already said

kill me the other Dave can't even do us the honor of staying on camera Ray is shaking his head

and is like uh Tuddy is not even got an expression on his face he is very non-committal this is just

why Sony more so than Paramount Sony I'm a beggin you stop you should have stopped at morbid time

when you tried to make it's morbid time happened that should have been it and you gave us

madam web just worse it's worse people by the way so for the all don't know I want to thank

Asa Mitchell for sacrificing it dying for our sins and watching madam web so we didn't have to

yes I had more be as and he got paid to do that let's not give him that much credit he got paid to do

the timeout timeout I got paid to see more more be as I paid and paid extra that I wanted to go what

the fuck the now you're just doing what I really wanted to go and see a fucking movie with the

the goddamn extra like vision thing whatever the hell it's called the ad screen feeders screen

yes I really wanted to go do a screen X and that was the only goddamn thing that I was playing

and I thought well it can't be worse than morbid and oh how I how wrong I fucking was and for

whatever fucking reason every time I'm able to come on this goddamn podcast we have to have a

goddamn conversation about the Sony venom first listen to this he's like every time I'm able to

like dude literally 20 minutes before we're going to start today it was like hey I'm coming

on the show we're all like yeah it's been like two years and we're still talking about this

shit is maybe maybe I altered the rundown once I knew he was on the show guy this is what it

does makes me take a sabbatical for another three years this was all that okay anyway so are

we just all agree with that this should not happen but it's going to and we're going to hate it

are we pretty mad it's just so stupid because they have not addressed the biggest problem with all

these movies other than the fact that they suck absolutely suck they still have an address you cannot

make a movie about spider-man villains without fucking spider-man I mean the only thing that the

article pointed out the only direction they could go that has any sort of modicum of a chance

of being relevant is if they went with Miles Morales that's it anything is absolute horseshit

I'll give them a little leeway you might be able to pull off a venom movie in terms of

of an idea venom the first one yeah kind of like it works on paper but execution really fucking sucked

everything else everything else like no you can't fucking do it I totally agree with you on that

Dave but you you might be able to pull off venom because venom realistically now he's been

of a hero for quite some time to to to the yeah no I mean venom venom does have some drawing power

that Craven doesn't madam web certainly doesn't all these other people certainly don't venom's got

name recognition and and enough of a following that you can work with that we just do the last dance

for that though right yes we did okay well what's your fucking point no just I guess I guess

Eagles and kiss are doing another fucking retarded Dave took that personal that's what I just

all right let's Dave's feelings are on full full effect right oh yeah I can see that all right we're

doing some stuff all right well they we're gonna let Dave go through stuff we're gonna we're gonna

take them step away because we're gonna hand the show back over to Ray after this commercial break

we come back we actually have five voters today so we don't need tiebreakers yeah that's exciting

no tiebreakers for this week's round of battle royal madness Dave's company cold but he's gonna

he's gonna love it all right heaven he's not gonna love it there there there's not a lot of

people on this on the channel I love more than this dude but the things that I like he's

didn't say so he's not and that is why he is going to be a great participant for battle royal madness

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it's not Mitchell attitude of aggression david on guard petra right out here to bring you

the final set of round two here in battle royal madness we've got star wars and the best of what's

left raise already got the brackets up I'm going to minimize my agenda so that I can make

this bigger so that my 47-year-old eyes can read these just as good lord even though I already

sent Ray the uh I already sent Ray my picks he actually knows who I picked because

for as opposed to the last week I thought it was gonna be on vacation so yeah so I did not

I did not catch um that this didn't happen so anyway Ray the floor is yours good morning Vietnam or

well badwagon nerds uh welcome to another episode of your favorite soap opera slash game slow show

slash thing you'll watch to love the hate better world madness um for those of you who are not

aware of what we're doing every year uh for the past three years we do a march madness

ask tournament amongst all things nerd dumb entertainment pop culture whatever you want to call it

this year we decided to do um a super smash brothers amalgamation that I like to call

battle royal madness we are a wrestling website made perfect sets so our four brackets and by the way

out this is a nice little set I'm trying to get you back involved stop um our four brackets are

video games world comics which means comics that are not involved with that we're not

created by Marvel or DC and then of course our Star Wars bracket and our battle and our best

of the rest bracket that we're doing today now as you are as you can see with those you listening

you're you're here with the beautiful presentation that I have available for all of you um we have

already made a number of picks we've gone through our first round so if we look at

the entire bracket the number one c Darth Vader did defeat the number 16 c lendo calorician

the number ac dyn jaren defeated bubba fit the OG Mandalorian the OG fake clone Mandalorian but

all we want can know be defeated grand admiral thron dorsidious unfortunate took out

our everybody's favorite wiki chubaka looks god walker defeated his homeboy

hand solo general grievous was uh defeated and just who's the seventh seed by the ten seed

moth giddyan d'arthmo aka patchy goddallas favor star wars character defeated cad bane and yoda

defeated finnek shand so today we're doing the second round gentleman are you ready

i mean i'm ready

round two guys we have our one versus eight match up we have the number one seed

Darth Vader facing off against everybody's favorite Mandalorian and the goddess polyglonum

make a bajillion dollars at the box office in a couple months dyn jaren

all right i'm going to go with you patrick because i always targets you out of respect and

reverence and deference of the fact that this is your your the captain of our ship i know who

you're picking but i'm going to give you the opportunity to explain who you're picking or change

who do you have um well before we do that i thought that trailer sucked but uh that's just

well there there we go not not excited for the Mandalorian grogu uh well we'll probably still

have to see it because this show is going to make me want to talk make me talk about it but

Dave i i i um sorry other Dave not not regular Dave i am i am to the star wars universe what you

are to the MCU i'm so done with it anyway all that to be said Darth Vader doesn't even need to

use his lightsaber because he will force choke a bitch i don't care how good you are

and how much best car you're wearing you don't need it he gonna crush you

and it's not gonna be pretty and then he's gonna squish little baby Yoda as as we all should because

can't escape that little bastard yeah he's still a child that doesn't know how to use his powers

to the extent of Darth Vader so Vader wins with or without baby Yoda uh and advances on

well this next we go to a regular day of apparently

yeah everything Patrick's everything Patrick's wait wait wait wait go to Jewish Dave

oh shit nicely done uh everything Patrick just said uh you know like the trailer says that

the bond between dinjorn and grogu just gets stronger until Darth basically crushes both of them

with the force and chokes them out and that's the end of the bond yeah this is this is this is not a

matchup this is a this is a route of epic proportions it's Vader Peace you tonight

c'est de la

war's baby it star wars baby d'arth Vader

wake it is

yeah built a little bit Murray, you know

we can't talk about Chevy but we can talk about Billy

um this is yet it's not even close

this graphic is amazing though by the way

um if we're going better

better sigil i go at den jaren

but um

the graphic is better than the fight will be right

probably ruined the sigil as well

cooler helmet den jaren by the way as well

random but i was watching

dark shepherds podcast was starting to

come talking about him

by the uh people of oj show

and he was like bro

you're a better actor than Chris

Darden who was a lawyer

and so never mind you that is very funny

uh visitor Dave

look at what your name and Dave's

you know I don't really

I don't want to stop

uh yeah we

I think if you ever do this bracket again

um you need to do star wars

sands d'arth Vader

um let's just let's just be honest

if Darth Vader don't win this

the fix is in

to that point i want you to

I really want you to expound

somebody beat Darth Vader

hold on hold on hold on hold on

to that point

to that point

the number one sees

hold on

to that point

the number one sees

are supposed to be

close to insurmountable

that's the only reason

why i felt comfortable putting them

in this

sure

but like

then i think

i know i think for a lot of

the other things

still could be like

some contention

in in other

from other individuals

i'm going to tell you right now

Darth Vader needs to walk away

with this entire bracket

that's what you want to do

and that's what you want to do

with the star wars

if he loses

fix is in

did he already

lose somebody

though in the bracket

in real

and real star wars life

yes

i mean

i was just

what i wasn't there

hold that thought

20

second day of

day of number two

there is one character

that stands above

head and shoulders

who's next

next everybody

star wars

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Y'all, you got my boy young Dave your young Dave. I'm old Dave. That's together the whole thing up Dave. I would go with that Dave dose. Yeah.

Uh, you know, this, this is a fun battle in my opinion. Like this one. There is blame for both individuals. Um, in my overall it's really hard to to plan this.

But if I, if I'm going off of my, my Star Wars logic. Got to give it to Sidious. I think if he's been alive that long he's been kicking he's he ends up getting the ridiculous mecha contraption that they fucking give him in the last goddamn movie because that was a choice still based off of that power. I'm going to take Sidious. And I hate doing that by the way.

We'll go opposite personal. I mean, Obi-Wan is, is just, uh, one of the one of the greatest jedis of all time, but Darth Sidious said is peak. If that's what we're doing. This is not even close.

Sexy Dave. You like that? Kind of like that. I like that. I like that.

I like that. Cursons. Cursons likes it too. Um, yeah. Uh, as much as I want to pick Obi-Wan here, I, I can't because, you know, I think about Sidious, right? And I always go back to that fight he had with Mace Windu, where he basically toys with Mace Windu, the entire fight as a means to eliciting

certain reaction from Anakin to flip him to the dark side. Um, and Mace is every bit as strong as Obi-Wan is. So yeah, I'm with, I'm with Tony and, and Sexy or Dave, um, and saying that Darth Sidious is the winner here.

So do you even want to talk about what you picked Patrick? Cause we are, we know what this is going to be.

Well, here, here's why I picked, I picked Sidious too. And I think this is what a few times as much as I love those prequel trilogies. And episode three, there's a choice to make as to who faces who. And you know, it was like, you ain't ready for that. And since him after Anakin. So that's about all you need to know as to how that fight was going to go.

Good point. Really good. I have one question for the group.

I am the, the, the, the, the, the youngest padawan here on this panel, when it comes to Star Wars. Is there anybody in the movie Star Wars, Star Wars verse? I'll even give you the TV shows. I never watched the shit. The, the cartoons animated. That's better with the stick.

The number one is though.

I mean, Luke Luke, Luke's better at everything than everybody. Luke is the most powerful person ever.

We come to the end of what we've just had for Star Wars movies. Luke's more powerful than everybody. It's always been about Luke, it'll always be about the Jedi. It's all Star Wars, but it's all Luke Skywalker. Period. Point blank.

Yeah, y'all is pretty good too.

We never, we never saw Yoda versus Obi-Wan. And that's, well, and here's the other thing in my mind, but what we won't know, when it comes, when it comes to Jedi Knights, as we go full dork on this, you can't just point to their swordsmanship, because that's only a part of the equation. So while Obi-Wan is very good as a, as with his lightsaber as a fighter.

In reality, there's also this strength within the force. And in, and Obi-Wan is up there, but he is not so engrossed and embedded in the dark side that he could handle Darcidius on his best act, and no point in his tie. Either, you know, because he killed Darth Maul twice for crying out loud. So in that thought.

This next, then we know what to do, I don't know when this next one, because you just mentioned Darth Maul got killed twice for Obi-Wan, and Tony says that everything that Obi-Wan is loose Skywalker's better.

Anger on big, Anger on go good for your homie in the face paint. Do we need to talk about this so you want to keep moving.

I mean, you got the matchup, you've got to get rid of the matchup Luke right there. Okay, well, this will demo DC Dave.

It's a good fight. I absolutely love this matchup, because I think Luke versus Darth Maul, like Tony San, Luke, maybe the best with the lightsaber. Darth Maul is going to challenge him. It will not be a cakewalk.

You know, Luke is going to have to fight and fight hard, but like Patrick saying, you start taking in the intangibles into the force into this whole thing.

And we saw Luke walk through a legion of death troopers.

What's Darth Maul really going to do? And Obi-Wan taught Luke pretty much everything he knows. So I think ultimately when you take all the factors of the force into consideration.

Luke wins this relatively handling, right, Tony?

Peak Luke, let's just just think about what that is. Okay, I'll carry that with you. Next.

Milwaukee.

Yeah, I'd I'd pretty much echo all the other sentiments.

And Southern Illinois Patrick.

There is an argument. I we keep hearing Tony spout over and over and over again about how amazing Luke is and that he's the greatest fighter of all time who, you know, he trained for like 10 minutes in a swamp.

And that's basically his training.

It just came naturally to him. That's why.

Right. He's so good.

It don't get me started on Ray who literally picks up a site, a lightsaber and just goes like that's a whole other issue.

Ray, the, the, the, the, the first on the show, not me, but for those of us.

Right. Yeah.

There's an argument that his sister was better than him. That's all I'm going to say.

Anyway, that is a, that is a conversation for a different tournament where she makes a bracket.

Uh, in this case, yes, I agree that Luke Skywalker defeats Darth Maul in a Jedi combat.

Well, so there's not much to talk about the next one because I'm pretty sure everybody in the moment, even even Giancarlo Esposito will tell you.

I like that he gave him the death saber though. I like that he gave him the dark saber.

That's the reason why I picked him in this tournament because him as a regular dude enter his credit to his credit.

The way he ingratiated and learned the Mandalorian way, got best cars stole the way everything that they did on top of getting the dark saber made them formidable.

But I mean, we talking about y'all that we talk about.

Well, what's our principal Charles and what we can go ahead or you can give me one word we can get out of here and move on the best of the rest.

I'm working on something for you.

Okay, I'll come back to you trivia Dave.

Ooh, Garxie.

I got Yoda trivia Dave.

Give me a give me Yoda all the way.

UFO Dave.

I think Yoda beats his ass with his walking stick even with moth giddy and having the dark saber.

So yeah, it's it's Yoda.

Disney Patrick.

This was this was the other one like in terms of characters.

Yoda Dave, you just say he can beat it with his walking stick.

Yoda doesn't pull out his lightsaber unless he absolutely has to because he's that entrenched and powerful within the forest.

Like he didn't he didn't battle.

Count Tuku with a lightsaber until he kind of felt like, oh, all right.

I guess we're doing it this way.

Yeah.

And the only reason they did it that way is because he had to protect Luke or Obi-Wan and Anakin at the same time.

So this is yeah, he he just sort of does one of these and and getting is done.

Well, so gentlemen, that brings us to the to the end of the to this part of the tournament where we were so going forward in your sweet 16 for the actual store was bracket.

It's almost like I planned it this way.

If you're number one seed Darth Vader will face his mentor.

His is his is what do you call the padawan and the what's the.

The master and apprentice master versus apprentice.

Thank you.

Number number four seed Darth Sidious where the number three seed Luke Skywalker will face his up for his master.

The number two seed Yoda could be interesting.

Moving forward to the best of the rest, gentlemen.

So so best of the rest was amalgamation of like all the other things that could be involved.

So like move.

I end up using the movie theme because a lot of them had movies or have worked with movies.

But there's mythology in here.

There are some literature, Bing, Bing, boom, whatever.

So looking at where we've where we've gotten so far.

God bless the Baba Yaga.

He did his best, but God's it'll just sneezing killed him.

Jason Voorhees won the battle of the monsters against Michael Myers eight nine.

The OG Terminator T800 beat John Rambo and Kong eight Conan the barbarian even though Conan tried.

Number three seed Goku took out Jake silly or asked how you say attorney.

Suleva thanks sir.

The six seed predator continues to look that ass others in a morph.

Dracula in the shocking defeat loses to Pennywise the clown and so on.

Sorry, sorry Harry.

You a kid, bro.

It is what it is.

Yavada cadavered his ass.

You're a wizard, Harry.

And many ways.

I Patrick.

I don't imagine we don't have much to talk about here.

Cause to your point, stop.

The number one seeds are pretty insurmountable.

I don't think there's any way any of us to think in Jason.

He's already about to breathe him into oblivion.

Like the picture shows what's going to happen here.

But he can't be on it.

He can't be on it.

Maybe he's tired.

Well, he's dangerous.

What do he want?

Yeah.

He's going to look at the machete guy who he's not even going to see.

He's actually going to be busy destroying just camp crystal lake with his flames.

And just wipe it all out.

Rest in peace Jason Voorys.

Well, so I then go ahead.

Let's go to gray hair Dave.

Jason is interested because of his ability.

He can't really kill him as we've seen.

But then again, he has not yet shown his ability to reconstruct the suffer point of order.

Jason died.

Jason died.

It was resurrected.

Resurrected through stupid lightning magic.

Okay.

Jason died.

Well, let me get to the point.

And we have not seen.

We have not from a boat.

He died from a boat.

Yes.

He died from drowning.

We have not seen in the movies as Jason find a way to reconstruct himself from an atomic level,

which is what is going to happen.

What's Godzilla nuclear breaths his ass into the quantum realm.

So yeah, it's Godzilla.

First of all, Charles.

You got to put your microphone down, buddy.

Oh, thanks, Dave.

He's going to eat him and take him with him on the rest of the tournament.

He's not going to.

He's going to shit him out the sweet 16.

Well, uh, dirty blonde, dirty blonde hair, Dave.

Is that me?

I don't know what your hair color is.

Is it?

I mean, I had more grace than I do dirty blonde.

Well, I'll take I'll take Kurt.

I'll take Kurt Russell and monarch beating Jason Voorhees.

Um, that's how confident I am in this.

Good answer.

Nice.

Good answer.

Jason, we hardly knew Kurt Russell from monarch moves on.

All right, guys, Arnold says he'll be back.

Terminator versus Kong.

I will say he won't be back physically.

This is imposing, but we're talking about a dude that is not a dude.

He's a dude playing a dude disguised as a computer dude.

Uh, we will go to, uh, wrestler Dave.

Dave Ungard in the rest of my boy.

I would see her have.

I'd see her have more of a trouble.

Try to figure out this one.

I think this one is.

There is a world, I think, where the T800 does win.

It's just not this one.

So I'll give it the Kong.

PC.

I think there's a possibility T2000 could win.

But I don't think.

Why I didn't choose him.

I don't think T800 has a chance in hell.

Look at those things on that gorilla.

Um, yeah, we're going to Kong here.

A lawyer, Dave.

Yeah, man.

As resilient as a terminator is, um, it's similar to the Jason situation.

We have not yet seen the terminator find a way to reconstruct itself.

But being torn to shreds, which is basically what Kong is going to do to the terminator.

So yeah, it's, uh, it's Kong with the walk over victory here.

Senior old out.

Yeah, I don't have much more to add here again.

Um, the sheer size of Kong, his ability to pick up and just toss.

This machine and crush it into submission eventually.

Um, no matter how many different times the terminator comes back.

Um, results in a victory for, for Kong.

Yeah.

Keep coming back and eventually Kong just gets annoyed with the whole fucking thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, guys, the number three C Goku faces off against the number six seed, the predator.

Next, uh, we are going to go to grandpa Dave.

It could be either one of us to be fair.

That could be either what I'm talking about.

Like that.

Old Davis, what are you talking about?

Um, this is, this is not, I mean, the only chance that.

The predator has here is if Goku.

Goku has a tendency to just kind of like fuck with his opponents a little bit and let him.

Let him get some shots in.

But even then that's just not going to make any difference.

Goku's a next level world ender.

Uh, on a lot of levels and I don't see the predator having much of a chance here.

Unless Goku flat out lets him win.

And that's not going to happen.

So yeah, I got Goku winning this one.

So I think I said this the last time we talked about.

Goku and the, and the first round.

Um, the only way the predator wins.

Is if during the first 28 episodes of the season while Goku is preparing for the big fight that will eventually culminate at the end of the show.

The predator gets.

Otherwise, Goku goes super saying.

And destroys predator.

So I'm going, I'm going with Goku because the predator while he does prepare a lot doesn't quite prepare enough.

He's going to, he's going to have that moment where Goku gets down.

And we think maybe this is it for Goku, but that'll be the end.

An alien will show up save the day, you know, he might not even have to go super saying if we're being honest.

Now you always go super saying.

That is how it works.

Look, Goku, Goku got hit with his own spirit bomb at one point, right?

And he was fine.

More or less left it off.

And he.

Well, I mean, look, no one could feel his, his, his key, but he still came back from that.

I'm sorry, this is not even close.

It's Goku.

Mr. Tony, do you want to talk?

I mean, you know, Vader, Yoda, Godzilla, and Goku.

These are all just annihilations.

Well, you mentioned Goku instead of the next person at number two seat.

He likes rings.

Well, the other guy likes balloons.

Uh, Pennywise, the clown.

Who personally am still shot to got through this bitch against Sauron.

Uh, number two seat Lord of the Rings.

Tony, you only want to start it yet.

Go ahead, brother.

I think the biggest thing we talked about the last time we did this and, um,

Pennywise was a combatant was his ability to control fear.

Sauron is so confident and ridiculous that he doesn't really have.

He doesn't know fear.

So there's no chance for Pennywise to have any ability to win this matchup.

Give me Sauron here.

And we will go the opposite way.

And we will go with Nerf Dave.

Which one's that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's ready to go at all times.

I have over a thousand.

Um, but yeah.

That's neither here nor there.

Uh, yeah.

I mean, it.

How do you set it perfectly?

Sauron feels no fear.

Therefore, Pennywise has no power.

Uh, which realistically means he should have lost in the first round.

But thank you.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Is what it is.

Dracula is afraid of light.

I will.

I'm going to take full credit on the swaying arguments that I made to get Pennywise past Dracula.

Because that was, that was all Patrick go down.

Well, why you pat yourself in the back, brother, go ahead.

Go ahead, brother.

Give us your, give us your thoughts.

They put it out.

Sauron fears nothing.

What?

Like literally nothing.

There is nothing in his dreams that haught him at night other than, you know, Eric Gordon

a sword.

And I don't think that's going to be enough.

Or gowns ugly face.

What's that?

gowns ugly face.

Wake it up to that.

No, that's, that doesn't scare him.

It scares a lot of people.

He captured golem.

Well, his into his forces captured golem while he was an entity and tortured him.

Like, Dracula actually has a lot of baggage when you really get into it that you can manipulate and exploit,

which is how I made the argument to three weeks ago.

Whatever it was that we did it was that it's really about Pennywise capitalizing on more than just sunlight.

But, you know, his lady issues as well.

Sauron has no lady issues.

Sauron has none of that.

Pennywise is done.

And we will finally end it here with Dem Dogs Be Barking Dave.

The only thing that Sauron fears is the one ring getting thrown into the fires of Mount Doom.

And unless Pennywise stole the one ring from a certain hobbit somewhere and raised to the mountain and somehow got around.

And that's really not Pennywise's style.

So yeah, this is, this is Sauron pretty easily and match over.

So those of you, those of you bracketeers who like going chalk.

Here, we went chalk legal and hard chalk.

Our number one.

What dissenting vote amongst all of us.

It was as solid as it's ever been.

The number one C Godzilla next week or well.

Yeah, next week will face off against number four C Kong in the is this the trilogy? Is this three?

Cause of the country.

And the number three C this this this fight.

I'd like to see the number three C Goku was raised in the coffee off against the number two C Sauron.

So now I've given you your sweet 16 for both the best of the rest and for Star Wars.

But because of how the tournament is working, we're going to also we're going to do the whole sweet 16 and one day.

So I've told you the two the two match ups for the best of the rest.

Told you to break up for for Star Wars.

Going into video games of sweet 16.

The number one overall C Kratos from God of War is facing off against the bane of my existence in this fucking tournament.

The number 13 seed.

Sonic the goddamn hedgehog.

Yes, that's real that as well.

That's real.

They pushed Sonic through two should be there, but they should be there.

Thank you, Dave.

You almost got me back, bro.

I was almost all over the house control, baby.

And and they were faced the winner of the number three seed from Metroid, Samus Iran versus the number seven seed chaos.

And actual chaos from Mortal Kombat scorpion.

And going into going in a world comics, our number one overall seed Omni man from invincible.

Or should I say image comics is facing off against you guessed it his son invincible from his comics, the one versus the four.

And again, chalk, the three seed from very, no, no, from very is it's spawn variant wall storm wall storm.

Thought wall storm from wall storm comics spawn, facing off against from the boys that dashed the home lender.

So that's all next week.

Same battle royal channel, same board battle royal madness of time, same board battle royal madness PowerPoint presentation.

And I handed back off 12 capitol and live villain, miss magical doubt.

I love that I'm French today.

All right.

That of course means that we are.

Thank you very much again, great.

Greg Ray.

Sorry.

Yes.

A lot of fun.

Love the, love the little graphics.

The walkings are fun.

This is your first time seeing it.

Yeah.

Because you missed the other damn.

I've been gone.

I've been.

And I've been living that.

Here's the best part.

I tried to sit it to his ass.

He was like, now I see what I get back.

I'll watch it.

I'll watch it on screen.

We didn't record a damn live one once.

While he was going.

Slowly.

Yeah.

Shit happens.

Anyway, that of course brings us to.

Our last segment of the show.

Our real quick once around.

What you watching.

What is it that these nerds have been checking out.

Either on the big screen or the small screen.

This week we will start a holy crap.

I got like so many choices.

We'll start with, um, we'll start with Ray Cash.

This week.

Ray.

What you watch.

Nothing special.

Nothing new.

Nothing special.

We'll start with Ray Cash.

This week.

We'll start with Ray Cash.

This week.

Ray.

What you watch.

Nothing special.

Nothing new.

Nothing special.

Nothing new.

Nothing major.

But again, I always want to prop up the two shows that are.

Everything to me right now.

Alex Cross.

On Amazon Prime.

Shout out to Alex Hodge.

Shout out to Isaiah Mustafa.

AKA the old spice dude.

And dog.

The pit.

Is amazing.

Shit.

Few.

But that.

No.

Wow.

All.

Every award you can get a man for writing, directing, show.

Show rendering.

You want to give him the war for best.

He won.

He won.

Yeah.

It's.

It's.

It's.

It's.

The first season.

He's.

Deserved.

He's fantastic.

The pit will be.

The pit will win him.

He's for as long as it's on TV.

The pit is the drama version of what the bear is supposed to be,

but they put the bear.

And fucking comedy so it can win awards too.

I guess it makes here a sense.

Dave will go with the Asop Dave.

Yeah.

Stuff that I've been watching.

I'll be honest.

I've been checking out some of the classics that's usually my,

my bag.

So my wife and I have been watching Blacklist.

watching Blacklist, which has been a fun ride. And we watched most of the pit. It's been it's been good.

So we went back and we're actually watching ER, which is going to be a fucking slog. I don't know

why the hell she picked that, but you know, that's what I get, I guess a lot of season. That's a lot

of season. God, I hope she's listening to you talking. Hey, hey, I'd rather go back and watch

your other watch screens. Grace got more season days past years. I got through about four seasons

are crazy. And I had to go by and I will say it is on my due list. I want to go and watch primal

really bad. The getting things off these and that shit's been looking fun. So I'm thinking

about checking that out too. Cool. A PC Tony. A next level chef is in full swing doing really

good things over there. That's that's the three level chef show that's with Gordon Ramsay,

Naish Earrington, Richard Blaze, having fun with that. What else? What else? What else have I been

watching? Not a lot. I've been watching the simulator in front of me trying to get ready for the

golf season. So there you go. David Ungar. The two things that stand out to me that I've watched

lately is I watched 28 years later, which was excellent. And I'm getting ready to watch the

bone temple because that is now available for purchase. And I fully intend on buying it because

I think we answered a few weeks ago. Pat, it was you who kind of lamented the fact that the

bone temple didn't do so well at the box office for dumb reasons. You know, um, so I'm looking

forward to checking that out. And I did watch the first episode of season two of Monarch Legacy

of Monsters, which David mentioned. And that was excellent. I thoroughly enjoyed that first episode.

I haven't said it yet. I haven't watched it. I won't I won't spoil it other than like I do like

the Kong look at the end of the episode. We're looking at every like what the fuck did you just do?

Yeah. I thought that was that was fun. So uh, it's a good show and like getting Kurt Russell back

in the whole cast, uh, I'm enjoying it so far. And of course, night of the seven kingdoms,

which we finished and I heard you. Yes. Very nice. Oh, dude, it's amazing. If you haven't watched it,

watch it. You could probably watch it in a day. You probably watched the whole season in three hours

attitude of aggression.com. Go to the YouTube channel. There's seven six episodes of us covering

a night of the nine kingdoms. Apparently so. So one of the best things about coming back from a

long vacation is getting caught up on stuff that that I missed. So a had three episodes of shrinking

to catch on Apple TV that I caught caught up on. That was fun. I mentioned it. I'm watching

currently. I've got one episode to go of Soul Power to finish that ABA documentary series.

The PBA season, Professional Bulletin Association season started last week with the PBA

Players Championship, which made history as Brandon Bonta bold. He's a rookie was bullying

in his first ever professional event. He made the television part of the tournament started at

the bottom of the step ladder bracket, made it all the way to the top of the bracket to bowl the

best bowler in the world, EJ Tackett, and he bowl the 300 game. It was the only like the third.

It's unheard of. It's like the fifth rookie to bowl a televised 300 game. It was it was

something to watch when that kid got locked in. And you can just see that he knew what he was going

to do. It was amazing. The last person to do a Jason Belmonte was the last television,

televised 300 was the tall Chris guy. I'm trying to think his name. I thought he did it as well.

Chris, I know you're talking about. Yeah. That's my Belmonte impression. Hey, because of him,

he changed bowling with that to him and culture really changed bowling with the two handed style.

This Bonta kid who then didn't make television today, like he didn't, you know, because that's

the nature of the sport. EJ Tackett, of course, he also didn't make the tournament or make the

call after winning a major. Right. Like, well, and that's the thing is that major was the only

major that EJ Tackett has not won. And this kid shoots a 300 and and Tackett had a good game,

like he shot like a 240, which would normally win. But what a kid shoots a 300 on a tournament pattern

and different patterns on each lane. Like, it was it's truly amazing when that happens.

20-year-old Patrick just wants to kick the shit out of 47-year-old Patrick for the amount of

time he's spent about professional bowling. Tony, you're going to love this. I started watching the

revival of scrubs. What they're now with what Bill Lawrence is calling the true ninth season of

scrubs. Go ahead. Finish your scrubs review and I have something else that I remembered. It's very much

like the show outside of the ninth season. Like, they really didn't change much about the show

other than the JD character is now the chief of medicine and how he manages that. And they think

they broke up his primary relationship again because that's how that always goes on the show.

He and Elliott are now divorced. But I enjoyed the first two episodes. Did they set my world on fire?

No, but it was the scrubs show that I that I watched and enjoyed for years when it was on TV.

Phanta Scrubs, no, we've talked about this. Am I happy that it's back for Patrick and that he's

enjoyed his first absolutely. Patrick knows that, right? Like, we like, that's the funny thing about

the bandwagon nerds and the people that are inside of the bandwagon nerds family. Like,

do we give each other shit on the show? Yeah, because that's a show. Are we happy when people

enjoy other kinds of mediums that we do? Am I thrilled that there's awesome horror trailers for

these guys? I am. Am I going to check them out? The fuck I'm not. But the one thing I remembered

that I did watch that I didn't want to mention. I'm so glad you brought this up is the fall

and rise of Reggie Dinkins with Tracy Morgan, Bobby Moynihan. I can't remember the black ladies

named who's in the show. She's from something so very familiar. What is it? Yeah, but she's been in

so many so much shit. She's really, she's probably the best part of the show. And then, yes,

Harry Potter's in this as well. So I watched the pilot and they gave you the second episode right

away. Awesome. Eric Alexander from Living Singers. Yeah, she's fucking great in this. She makes

this good. Watch it, guys. Watch it. I'm pretty sure it's going to be just on the cock. It's not going

to be on network television. It's going to be a streaming thing like the paper thing they did with

the office kind of spin off thing. But for a guy who's a sitcom guy who's watched every sitcom

from the 80s, not even thousands and firmly believes there's no good sitcoms right now.

This I'm going to want every sitcom, every sitcom. And you always say there's no good.

Sure to the day. Sure to the day, Dave South, by the way.

And last but not least, also yesterday was the last day on HBO Max of some classic Mel Brooks films

being on the streaming service. So I made it a point to watch history of the world part one

in blazing saddles before they left the network today. So those are a couple of movies.

We're on white women at God has given me these 15 10 10 commandments kill kills me every time.

It's such a simple joke. It's such a simple silly joke. But Moses drop in the tablet of one of the

15 commandments, which is why we only have 10 kills me every time. All right, that is good to do it

for this week's edition. But before we get out of here, fellas, tell everybody how they can either

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