Beatlesongs, March 20, 2026

0:00Oh, we had a little bonus. That was really nice. Wasn't it? Let me see. Does that one? No, it's like that one. Is it this one? Oh, yes, there it is because it says because it says Mike five on it. I'm a genius. Raise me a little more. Oh, yes, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's good. By why I saw Ron Willie on Saturday. I was down here. Was he refreshed? No, but he was tell me how he's getting refreshed and who's getting he's getting refreshed soon. He was tell me all the things are good. Be gone. And I'm like, Oh, God. I have to say he looks pretty good. You know, for for what he thinks he looks like compared to what he actually looks like. You know, and then he's like five years and I'm out of here. And yeah, I'm like, Michael. Yeah, he's already ready to become an expat living a caged area of Mexico. Oh, God. Yeah, be careful. Yeah. Well, they hitly cage you out. You know, you don't you don't go outside the cage. Well, what good is that? I don't know. What can't you can? I mean, you can't leave a certain you're in the premises or something. I don't know.

1:21I don't know. I something, you know, Ron was rambling about, you know, he's telling me all the the beauty is going to get it. It's like the beauty. Yeah. That was cold. I have no idea. I got to be asked Rob. I'm very upset. I look at my pictures. I'm very upset. I think I might have a consult with Ron Stevens. And maybe he could give me a suggestion. Not that I would do anything. Not that I would do anything. Mind you. But maybe you got a passport. Are you ready? I've got my real driver's license. I could cross the board. I guess so. I know. I don't. I need. Yeah, you need a passport. But that's. That's like, you know, everything's falling apart. Rob, you don't you? Oh, yeah. You can fall apart for a long time. Oh, thank you. But the kids think you're new young because you have a young attitude. The kids love you. They.

2:21They're going to see Madrasina for advice. They don't come to rob letter for advice. Which kids? Are you talking about kids at WHP? I don't. Kids. They don't know me. Everybody knows you, though. I have no one knows me. They all know you. When you go to the meetings, everybody, you know, the youngsters, the youngsters talk to youngsters. The youngsters talk to you, Rob. No, they don't. No talks to me. Okay. Gabe, to Kofsky if he's there, um, Linda, but she's not a kid. All the youngsters. All the youngsters. Anyway, I don't know. Mark Taukey. Taukey. We love Taukey. Mark is working for, well, we have a common friend. The friend we have is the one I bought my last call from. Right. Right. And Mark's working over there for him. I wonder how he's doing over there. He's always working with Ditalin, but different things. You know, he's always around, you know. Anyway, so I said, Ron, we met.

3:21I miss you when you don't show up on Friday. I know, you know, we do. You know, this is usually, you know, that door should open wide in here. I said, Ron, I'm here. I've always said, I said, Ron makes the, the cross talk they would do it right now. You know, we need, you know, we need the little, little, uh, little kick, a little, uh, you know, little kick from Ron Stevens, little sugar from Ron Stevens, you know, sugar. You know, you know, but you, you should have seen how he's, how he's pointing out, he's like, he's, he's worried about his eyes. I go, Ron, your eyes look good. You're considering how old he is. You know, you know, the eyes are the windows to the soul. Well, if you don't have a soul, you don't have any eyes. Now, I'm not talking about Ron, just about other people. But, wow. Rob, I didn't say that, by the way. I'm not saying Ron had, doesn't that was all he does?

4:21Do I found a tape from 1987? Another one? No, this is the same one where I was really mean to Ron on the air. I almost don't want to give it back to him. So I'm going to be going through my stuff to give back to people I've had for many a years. I think I have some stuff of yours. I think I have a Gary Shanling show or something. I remember you back then. That's the times when you would do mean things and then you'd like to sign something says, remember, be yourself. That was, that was way before that, Steve. That was, that was a different time in my life. I didn't yours. Well, we were junior high school. Rob Robin is gang of thugs. Thugs. I all, I'm all friendly with now. You know, I'm all the other pals of yours. Yeah. You talk now with them. They, they, they were tortured me at that stage. That's not true. But I was right up there with the other people you've tortured. There's a, no, no, no, the rogues gallery of the, the rogues gallery is different, man. You weren't even close to that part of the. So, you want to why? Cause you weren't on the bus. So went, thank God, go on the bus. I'd say yes.

5:26Yes. You, you, you, you, you got enough, you got enough, the jabs in it, the rogues gallery. I'm getting that into a shirt for the boys. Seriously, Dick Tracy would be after all of you. So, but, you know, uh, um, but yeah. So graduation came for junior high school and Rob insisted on signing my book. And then I decided to take it from them because I didn't know. And so somewhere I have this junior high school yearbook and it, it's only partly written because I took it away. It's pulling away from you. It says, uh, Steve, be yourself. Well, it didn't say that. It said it in high school. I'm getting, Rob goes, I'm going to write what I was going to write to you in eighth grade. Really? Yes. And you wrote, Steve. Remember, be yourself. Really? It sounded, it sounded junior high school. No, that was not really. I believe I forgot about that. I don't know. I don't remember. I had a lot of bad, I had a lot of bad experiences in eighth grade.

6:31A lot of people wrote bad things. Mean girls. Oh, yeah. A lot of mean girls. The original originators are from that class. There were some real and they had, oh, they haven't changed really. That's the sad part. You know, you think you get older, you get nicer with these people now. By the way, an old book I've been started to read. What's that? John Winner, someone wrote a biography. Well, actually, Winner chose this writer to write to his autobiography. Right. He didn't take like a credit like John Winner with. He just gave it to the guy, which was nice. Right. Right. And we'll say it was so far so good. I mean, I read another book about Rolling Stone. I've got to wrote it. The only reason I bought it was on the first one was on the discount book table. But there was a great quote for a dress Thompson on it who used to write for Rolling Stone. I was dead, of course, but I saw the quote. I said, well, Hunter is saying this. He might know something that other people don't know.

7:33So I bought it for three bucks. It was actually a very good book. And, you know, he was a star. You know, I remember that star. There was a Rolling Stone song called, I don't know if it was about here, but there was a song called Star. Let's just clean it up and think of a monkey song called Maybe Star Collect. Yes, that might be better. So, you know, it's, you know, he got really lucky. First of all, his wife's family put up the money for the magazine. Right. And there were several times that almost went out of business because that's what happens to magazines. And we even the magazine George with JFK Jr. running it. Which was an interesting magazine. I know. But unfortunately, yeah, I know I still have the Howard start one.

8:34Yeah. Remember how, remember when, when for a year, you know, he destroyed him. Yeah. And then he, JFK Jr. comes on Howard show. Right. And, you know, because he won him on the cover. Yeah. Remember, he wrote, he wrote in the book, when, when JFK, Jackie Onassis died in the morning, JFK Jr. is out roller skating before the funeral. And Howard was really angry about this. And he wrote it in his book. And there's a picture of him. Right. So what? Who knows? Today's Howard would be, I don't see anything wrong with that. You know what? You know what? If it's to, you know, to help you from, you know, grieving. I mean, well, you're talking about JFK Jr. I was talking about Howard. You know, I agree. I know. Yeah. I asked my mom, I said, would you mind if I did that, you know, before you're... He stated for me. She was not a man. Oh, get your skates. Yeah. When was it?

9:3490s. You know, he might not, he, he maybe shouldn't have driven. I mean, flew to Hianna's port for the wedding. That, that was like, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't all, you know, he wasn't the pilot. He was, everyone thought he was at that point yet. They just do one thing that just is really bad. Well, he wouldn't, he wouldn't live. I mean, he driven. He's, you know, New York City to Hianna's port's like five and a half hours. Yep. And it was not a great night to fly. But, you know. But back to the young S. Warner. Warner. Winner. Whatever. I just have one question from him. What the what with the monkeys? Why are you so anti-monkey? I don't know, because when he was still at Rolling Stone, about 2012, 20, I guess 2012 when Davey died. Yeah. They, they covered the monkeys really well. They did a great interview with Mike Nesmith.

10:35They did one with, with Mickey. They gave a great review to good times. Right. They, they did a lot of things that you, they, they normally wouldn't do. You know, and why isn't the, them, why aren't they, um, you know, why aren't they on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I don't know if against, no offense against, you know, some of the people who are in there. But Madonna doesn't belong in there. Neither does. Well, you know, the big reason is always because they never played their own instruments. Well, they did. They did. And guess what? None of the, how many of the Motown acts that are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame played their own instruments. They sang, you know, they, they were great singers. And you're going to tell me that Mickey Dolans is not a great singer. I think alone his voice is one of the great voices of that decade. I do too. It really, it really is. It is up there. And the thing that bothers me is, is that they're never going to go back to all those bands they skipped over from the 60s.

11:35That, that includes the monkeys, but there's other bands too. I mean, right now, I mean, when it comes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, you know, for me, that ship is sailed. I, I, I look at the nominees and say, oh, God. Oh, I mean, they should, there's people there who, you know, who's at this year? Is it Mariah Carey? Oh, my goodness. I like Mariah Carey, but she's never had a, she's had one rock song in her life. And honestly, she did, um, she did deaf leopard. Let me say this right now. You know what? If they're going with the thing attitude is being something, you know, if you want to put if you want to put Frank's, look, I'm willing to put Frank's not during the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because that attitude was taken from every major rock star from Elvis to Jim Morrison to Mick Jagger. That was, you know, I could understand that Mariah Carey is so unrock and roll. Yeah. It is ridiculous, but she did do a nice cover of deaf leopard.

12:35She did. What was the song, uh, that photograph, um, not pour some sugar on me. It was, um, you know, she's from Long Island. That's, you know, that's why she's, you know, deaf leopard girl. Because literally everyone deaf, everyone in Long Island loves deaf leopard and zebra and Billy Joel. You know, how about, I forgot already, but go ahead. Okay. So, but, you know, there's other people just pink belong in there. Oh, maybe I don't know. There's more rock and roll than Mariah is. Well, that's true. But my, my problem is they also do it once a year and maybe they should do a second one. Maybe they don't have to have two ceremonies, but have two placements, you know, like what I would like to see is like in the regular Hall of Fame, baseball Hall of Fame, you know, the veterans get to vote in, you know, instead of having. Just let everybody vote and then just give the ballots to Jan S Werner.

13:35I'm not sure if Jan is part of it anymore. He's been, he's been removed. Remember he said he had the inappropriate comments. But you know what? I still remember that Steve, because I was here and the article came out at midnight and I read it at 1202. It was on Yahoo. And I'm reading this article and I'm like, the guy who's writing it wrote for the rolling stone at one point. And in the book, there's only six people that have given him interviews that he thought were good. And it was supposed to be part one. It's going to be part two and three and four. Right. So it was like Townsend, Jagger, John Lennon. I've got the other three, but he, the guy goes to, well, why aren't there, you know, other people, you know, R&B people, women. And he goes, well, they didn't, he answered very innocently, but it turned out to be totally misinterpreted by everyone else because, you know, Joni Mitchell is not a good interview.

14:38Have you ever seen an interview with Joni, read it into with Joni Mitchell? He was. Joni Mitchell is so full of herself, it's scary. You know, and I like Joni Mitchell. You know, he mentioned the sense of why not Marvin Gaye. And Marvin Gaye had a lot, he wasn't a very good interview either. Now, maybe in the second book, he would have included them, but I don't even know if if Jon had interviewed him. These are people that Jon had personally interviewed. Right. So I don't know. I just, I felt bad for him. And I shouldn't feel bad for him because he's kept the monkeys out of the whole of fame. But I was just, you know, I was a little sad by it. Let's put that way. Yeah, it is. I just, you know, but, you know, he's a little wacky. Yeah, I like to have him on my show. You know, he did something to Jon that Jon didn't talk to him for a long time. And it was after Jon was murdered that Yoko and Jon made up. And Yoko and him, you know, anytime Yoko breathed, it was in Rolling Stone.

15:38But when they put it, when they published Lenin, uh, remembers. Yeah. Jon didn't want that published as a book. He says, I don't mind being a, you know, too parter. I don't want as a book. And, uh, he didn't talk to him for a long time. I just, you know, uh, he didn't talk to Rolling Stone. But he didn't, he didn't talk to Jan for a while because Pete Hamill did an interview with him, 75. Right. Jonathan Kot did 180. Right. Right. All the greats. All the greats. So we go back into Pete Hamill, who went out with Jackie O. Goes back to the Kennedy's every time. I have his audiobook and I started to listen to it. Man, that voice. He just had a good voice. He had a good voice. And they had a lot of Brooklyn in it too. And he was just a great storyteller, great writer, great storyteller. And he said, one of the funniest things I ever heard. And if you guys are, you know, know the history of television and news and whatever,

16:39there was a show called A Current Affair. I used to work on it. I know. And there was one time I believe they told a story about Steve Dunlavy. This was before Current Affair. Those was the snowstorm of 78. Oh, God. And Steve Dunlavy was drunk at Elaine's, which didn't matter if it snowed or not. You would have been drunk at Elaine's with, uh, with a female companion. Right. And they were out in a snow bank. And, uh, his foot was run over by one of the machines that snow plows or whatever, whatever. And they took him to the hospital. He was working for the post and Pete Hamill was the editor at the post. And they run back to this newspaper and they say, they tell Pete they said, don't leave. He's just, you know, just got his, just was run over. He has foot run over by his, by a snow plow or whatever. And he goes, I hope it's not his riding foot.

17:40Well, you know, there's, there's, this should do a book on Dunlavy if someone hasn't. But by the way, how we rose retire this year. Yeah, I know. I know. Well, I mean, it was eventually going to happen. I mean, obviously he was really winding down, but I guess still shocking. Yes, it is. Still shocking, man. Maybe we're going to start the show. By the way, tonight, we have it into Mark Lewison. Oh, wow. Let's talk about his new movie, Evolver 62. I'll be on a little bit after nine o'clock. Okay. He listening to 90.3 WHPC, the voice of Nassau Community College. My name is Rob Leonard. I'll show you listening to his Beatles songs. Give us a call or a text, 516-572-740. I know it's true. It's all because of you.

18:47And if I make it through, it's all because. I know it's all because of you. And I'm then. If we must start again, we will love our show tonight. We love you. Now I'm then. I miss you. Oh, now I'm then.

19:48I want you to be there for me. Always to return to me. I know it's true. It's all because of you. And if you go away, I know you're there. Stay. Now I'm then. I miss you. Oh, now I'm then. I want you to be there for me.

21:08Oh, now I'm then. Oh, now I'm then. I know it's true. It's all because of you. And if I make it through, it's all because. Oh, now I'm then.

22:25I want you to be there for me. I want you to be there for me. I want you to be there for me. I pretend that I'm missing the lips I'm missing. And hope that my dreams will come true. And then while I'm away, I'm right home every day. And I'll send all my love into you. All my love into you, I will send to you. All my love into you.

23:29Close your eyes and I'll kiss you tomorrow. I'll miss you. Remember I'll always be true. And then while I'm away, I'm right home every day. And I'll send all my love into you. All my love into you, I will send to you. All my love into you, I will send to you. All my love into you, I will send to you.

24:35When I see you, I just don't know what to say. I like to be with you every other day. So if you want me, just like I need you, you know what to do. I want you walking behind your looked alone. I hope that you won't mind if you walk back home. Or if you want me, just like I need you, you know what to do. Just call on me when you're lonely. I'll keep my love for you only. I'll call on you if I'm lonely too. On the sign I'll stay with you every day. So if you want me, just like I want you, you know what to do.

25:48Just call on me when you're lonely. I'll keep my love for you only. I'll call on you if I'm lonely too. On the sign I'll stay with you every day. And make you lonely more in every way. So if you want me, just like I need you, you know what to do. They truly lost song when it ended up on anthology one. It had never been bootlegged. And no one really knew anything about it. And then that's up on anthology one. Very basic. They never recorded it properly. At least we never heard it. But at least it was recorded then as a demo.

26:50You know what to do right here at 90.3 WHPC before that all my loving. And we began our show with now and then. Give us a call or a text 516-572-744-0. We would love to hear from you on this wonderful cold but wonderful Friday, the 20th of March, 2026. Today is the first day of spring technically. It's a little cold for spring but we'll take it. We'll take it because there's no more snow. That's not actually true. It can snow in the spring. What am I talking about? It has snow in the spring. But let's hope it doesn't.

28:03What a kiss could be. This could only happen to me. Can't you see? Can't you see? That when I tell you that I love you. Oh, you're gonna say you love me too. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine. Oh, you're gonna say you love me too. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

29:19Oh, and when I ask you to be mine. It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see? But when I tell you that I love you, oh, you're gonna say you love me too. Oh, and when I ask you to be mine, you're gonna say you love me too. You love me too. You love me too. You love me too. It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see?

30:26It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see, can't you see? They used to stand with you in late times, and you knew your walk, and you knew your turn. Oh, you're my darling, you were small, but you don't know me, you were bound with the storm. Oh, oh, hey, still left, still left, still left, still left.

31:44It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see, can't you see? It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see? It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see?

32:45Will your mouth be scorched? I just pray your life But you can't even hold straight If you're in the town We're into your heart But you're my little girl You leave me a smile Back in the alley again You're still in my eyes You're still in my head

33:45You're still in my head You're still in my head I'm not right right now I'm not right right now I'm not right You're still in my head You're still in my head You're still in my head Who's it about? You ever go to 1700 Broadway?

34:45Abco Records I believe is still there Though Alan Klein is not When Klein died a while ago He had a dementia I think of the end I don't know who he screwed over That's the weird part But Abco Records is still a record label And get this, they're still in business They own the stone stuff up to 71 No, they're not screwing anyone over I don't think so As a matter of fact, the stones The first and only time they've combined Up to 71 stuff with the post 71 stuff So obviously there has to be some sort of dealing And Jody Klein is now running the company Jody is Alan and Betty's son But they're still in business You know, a lot of record companies aren't anymore They are 516-572-7400

35:48That is the number of call or text I'd love to hear from you tonight In about 25 minutes or so We're going to have Mark Lewisen with us To talk about his movie called Evolver 62 So it's a good interview This next thing says coming up 12 inches Now someone put this into the archive we have here I don't think I have this in my collection I don't remember seeing it But maybe it was really... This one I don't know about But it says, and it's 6 minutes and 37 seconds So let's hear what this sounds like And see what happens Right here at 90.3 WHPC Beatles songs

37:09Coming up Coming up Coming up Coming up Coming up Like a flower Coming up I'll say You want a friend You can rely on One who will never fade away And if you're searching for an answer Stick around I say Coming up Coming up Coming up Coming up Like a flower Coming up Hey Hey Hey Hey

38:17You want some peace And I'm gonna stay So everybody can't be free I don't know where I think you can get together You can make it Feel free to be Coming up Coming up Coming up Coming up Like a flower Coming up For you and me Coming up Coming up

39:17Coming up Coming up Coming up I say Coming up Coming up Coming up Being in my point My boy You Won't love

40:18One that will never fade away I will help you With your brother Take around I say Come in on Come in on Come in on I can fly away Come in on I'll say You want some peace And I'm gonna stay So everybody can't be free I know where we can get together We can make it Feel free to Come in on Come in on Come in Come in on Love your flower Come in on For you and me

41:28I say You want some peace And I'm gonna stay So everybody can't be free I know where we can get together We can make it Feel free to Come in on Come in on Come in on Come in on

42:56I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much more than I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much more than I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much more than I don't think I can wait, like I'm supposed to do, I still can't wear a ring to form a

44:02little drug option, we need to find a place where we can be alone, to spend some special time without a introversion, if you come on to me, will I come on to you, if you come on to me, will I come on to you? Before you grab your coat, I'll try to be discreet, you know we can't be seen in exchanging information, I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much

45:23more than casual conversation, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, will I come on to you, if you come on to me, will I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you,

46:44if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, 90.3 WHPC from each of station, come on to me, Paul McCartney, and before that, coming up, the 12 inch version, and stealing glass from walls and bridges, that should be, we don't know when, but that should be, if you go in chronological order, which they actually haven't done in chronological order, would be the next box set of walls and bridges, and there's a lot to go through there, if you want to have some real fun, you put out the quadmix, there are two different rehearsals, and then my favorite part, if they would do this, I'm not sure if Sean would do this,

47:46there were really some good interviews during that time, Dennis Celsius had a great interview, Tom Donnie, you had a great interview, plus there's always little things that John called into certain radio stations, and they basically were like 10 minutes long, and then of course, KHJ with John was the DJ for the morning, and that was one of the lines, some guy called up and said, hey, when the Beatles get back together in John goes, when you go back to high school, which is a great meme, but nice line from John. So we'll see what happens next, there's not a lot to play with with John's catalog, because he was murdered in 1980, but I like what they've been doing so far, you know, Sean, these box sets have been really good, and I'm very happy with him, I know some people aren't sure, there's always complaints, oh, why wasn't this included? Well, maybe he'll be on the next version, not everything's been put out,

48:47you know, so that's the good thing, of course, that's why bootlegs are made, you know, you can go look around, they're easy to find really, it's so say, I remember as a kid, getting a bootleg meant riding away to this business in North Carolina, or you go into the certain record store on the South Shore in Suffolk County, I won't say where it is, because they're still around, and there are other places too, you can walk in and you just know if they sold them or not, you don't say, hey, do you sell bootlegs? You don't say that, but you walk in, you knew what was being sold and what wasn't being sold, and of course, in the city, it was like giving away gum in the city, so we'll have to wait for walls and bridges, I don't know, I'm thinking like next year, maybe, you know, maybe, maybe not, maybe it's longer, who knows, who knows, one to one concert, the film, it wasn't, it wasn't all the concert,

49:49but it's about the time, more than anything, I saw it last year, I thought it was very good movie, actually, about what was going on during that time, and what's going on with John and Yoko, and the anti-war movement, and there was this one scene that just blew me away, it was this George Wallace rally, and people are holding up, you know, Confederate flags, and I'm like, geez, what George is saying is being said by certain people today, I was shocked, sometimes you have to be reminded, you know, 516572-7400, that's the number call if you'd like to hear a certain song or whatever you want, we'll be talking to Mark Lewis in about about 10 minutes or so, and you know, what you're going to talk about, at least talk about his movie, Evolver 62, which is available online also by DVD if you're interested in that, some people won't buy DVDs anymore,

50:53some people will not, you know, do anything but buy DVDs, I guess it depends on what you want to support, is George Harrison, from all things must pass, you got to love the strum, 12 string, 6 string, 2 string, whatever, is my sweet Lord, I really want to know you, hey, that's the truth, I really want to feel you, I really want to see Lord, but it takes so long, I love,

52:00my sweet Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, I really want to know you, I really want to go with you, I really want to show you Lord, but it won't take long, I really want to know you, I really want to know you, I really want to see you, I really want to see you, I really want to see Lord, I really want to see Lord, but it takes so long, I love, my sweet Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, I really want to know you,

53:15I really want to go with you, I really want to show you Lord, but it takes so long, I love, my sweet Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, I really want to know you, I really want to know you, I really want to know you, I really want to see you, I really want to be, I really want to see Lord,

54:22but it takes so long, I love, my sweet Lord, my Lord, I really want to know you, I really want to see Lord, I really want to go with you, I really want to see Lord, I need to live without you To live with you To live with you I wish for a sweet love To the stars, just with all my love And now I'm my love To the stars, just with all my love To the stars, just with all my love

55:24To the stars, just with all my love To the stars, just with all my love 90.3 WHPC Big Hit for George Harrison Number one, mall things must pass Not to lead off track, you think it would be, it wasn't It was the second track That's what you do You put the second track, put a good first track Then the second track is the one that gets you And then the rest of the album is easy Unless the rest of the album sucks, I don't know Anyway, you're listening to Beatles songs On the voice of NASA Community College 90.3 WHPC And you know, we want to call in Quite a night tonight Yeah I mean, I have to check the texting But the phone call, we've had a couple We have a few actually But usually it's ringing and ringing and ringing

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1:03:43WPPC, Beetle Songs on the Friday night, my name is Rob Leonard, and on the Zoom meeting with us is Mark Lewiston, a well-known Beetle author, historian, and all around nice guy. He is calling in because he has a new movie out. It's called Evolver 62. We'll ask him how he got that title. But Mark, welcome back to Beetle Songs. How are you doing? could to be here Rob nice thanks for having me back and thank you for coming on I know you've been doing a lot of press for the movie it's a fun movie it I'll get to it a couple of minutes but there's a couple of things that reminded me of when I was watching it but let's get the the big elephant that everyone wants to know about what's going on with the book I'm not going to ask anything more except for right now you mean the second volume of the trilogy that I'm writing the follow up to tune in yes yes and I'm not even asking if the third one but just the second one of course yeah yeah one thing at a time while I'm writing it I'm working on it

1:04:48all the time I mean the occasional interview to promote the film but basically I'm on it the whole time and it's coming together but but much more slowly than I would have hoped and I think a lot of the people out there listening to this would have hoped as well the good news is that it's coming together but the bad news is I don't know when it's going to be finished it's a it's a much much bigger project than I anticipated and it's monopolising my life in a way that I didn't quite anticipate when I started it do you wish you like you said well I wish I could have read about Jerry and the pacemakers no it would have been a lot easier there wouldn't be there'd be a fraction of the material as well as a fraction of the interest mind you I mean it's it's very gratifying to to know that so many people are waiting for this book and obviously it's also gratifying to know that the subject I'm writing about is not going anywhere or not even diminishing really the Beatles are still huge and still very popular in so many ways but on the other hand

1:05:55the consequence of doing research for so much for so long is I have a lot of material and the the very act of condensing it down into a written and easily readable book he's actually proving quite tough now my first question is Evalver 62 this is a movie based on this program that you did first of all how did the program come about and why did it come about and second of all how did the movie come about based on the program well the first thing is you call it a program I mean it was actually a theater show okay not really a history lecture but just a kind of an entertaining romp through the Beatles history in the year of 1962 which was the the eve of the Beatles break three year I mean in America it all happened in 64 but in the UK it all happened in 63 that led to the breakthrough in America and so 62 is the eve of that 62 is the last year

1:07:01when they can move around relatively freely because outside of Liverpool no one really yet knows who they are and they're building everything towards the breakthrough so the breakthrough well it happens in 62 but it really happens number one wise in 1963 and it's a period covered by my book it's a lot happens in the year 1962 I mean they they basically have George as Brian Epstein managing them they get together with George Martin to be their music producer they sign a record contract they get rid of Pete and take on Ringo they get on radio and television they have their pictures taken the fan club events is really all starting to build so basically in the year of 2022 I realized it was 60 years since then and I decided to use the research that I had gathered for my writing in a different way because most of the most of the research was just

1:08:03for my own benefit I used it to know what I was writing about but then I stopped the information away in a filing cabinet for this program for this theater show I got it out of the filing cabinet and showed it to audiences told them the stories that these and that these pieces of paper and pictures and posters and recordings actually demonstrated and the audience is really enjoyed it I did three shows in London they went down really well and I had them filmed for no particular purpose at that time but I just felt that it would be sensible to film them and then later on we'd do something with it perhaps rather than think afterwards I wish I'd filmed those I you know I can't do it again but I should have filmed them so it was just a sensible thing to do to film them and three and a half years later and we can now look at it now as a presenter as an author you know those two things are different but it's about the same information do you wish

1:09:09you'd done the films you know do you think you could have done them let's say you did the films just as the films you didn't write it but you have all this information so if you were to do one year for one film for each year how would the presentation be different obviously you want the truth and all that but what I'm talking about is there was when I saw the movie I was I was very impressed with the relaxation of the whole thing it was very relaxing when you're going to the different places and so I was just wondering the writing and then this could you have done this you know each year you know 62 63 because I remember various show that was a done at the mammoth event a couple of years or four or a few years ago now where you did 1969 and I assume that was a similar type of thing but yeah instead you went for the do one for 62 and the movie and everything else it was what you saw was my presentation at the White Album Symposium in New Jersey in 2018

1:10:15and that was all about the year of the 1968 and the White Albums place within it the the chronology of the of the Beatles that year including the recording the the composing and recording of those songs how that whole project spans six months of their life basically and that was the first one I ever did like this but I mean and then I did Hornsey Road in 19 in 2019 that was a UK theatre tour of me taking a show on the road about how the Beatles recorded the Abbey Road album right in 1969 so I've now done a few of these this evolved 62 was my third such show and I could do them for every year absolutely in fact will be a lot easier than writing because you have to use the material selectively you can't just put it all in a show because the show would take days to present so it's about cherry picking the best moments and knowing which things are going to entertain an audience

1:11:21because you really want an audience to be fully engaged with what you're doing you don't want an audience sitting they're looking at their watches wondering what time the interval is going to be you've actually got a really put together a show that's got a pace to it and got comedy in it ideally you want an audience is like to laugh and particularly they like to look at things so you want to give them good content on a screen there can be copyright issues involved so you can't just put everything up on a screen you don't necessarily own the rights to do that in the theatre it was I was still observant of copyright but took one or two liberties on the basis of fair use but when it came to this film we there were certain things that we just couldn't include because we couldn't clear the rights so that's why we took the camera out into Liverpool London and did some of the stories actually where they took place actually went to the places where things happened yeah I like that a lot it it you know I've done the tour of London in Liverpool and

1:12:26it was a nice it was a nice touch all you know the and you have the pictures and you have you know you're telling what's going on at the same time and seemingly a lot of stuff is still there not everything but obviously there's a lot of stuff that's still around that you know was there 1962 yeah that's right I mean I don't like to go to the obvious places I like to do some of the unobvious ones the the beauty is as I say a given audience something to look at so when you watch the film you will see all the kind of documents and things that's supported by research things I discovered there actually really no one's ever seen before and they tell a story and I use them to tell the stories so you're not just hearing the story you're actually seeing it as well and I like to do that an audience is really enjoy that I think the film is going down well for the same reason same as it was in the theatre the people just thought you know this is there's a lot to look at a lot to consider but I keep it moving and keep people amused as well so you once you've

1:13:29got an audience there in front of you for three hours you can't bore them you've got to make sure they leave having had a really good time and maybe learn a thing of three you know absolutely yeah what it's it's the whole thing is a learning experience even for the biggest people's fans in the audience because there's stuff there that they haven't seen or heard before well that's what tune in was about there was a lot of things we never knew about officially sometimes you hear rumors but you don't know what the rumors are about until someone actually shows you that well here's here's the thing that said this this and this and this is what actually what happened yeah and then this is why volume two of my trilogy is taking so long because it's everything's got to be substantiated it's got to be it's got to be verifiable really or at least be sound enough for me to use and it's so that I feel confident in it there's a people's story ever end seriously I mean now and then coming out a few years ago you think that's maybe the end but then they put out anthology for and you expect more box sets down the road I guess it does

1:14:33if you're defining the ongoing aspects of it as the release of new material yeah well hopefully not for a long time to come I think there's still plenty that could come out in one way or another but for me it never ends because of not so much because of that but because of their their impact on civilization and the human race and the human spirit I think they're still doing a lot of good in this world I think they still have the ability to make people feel better about themselves than they than they would do without playing that music it's still an uplifting experience the whole bit of the story when you look at pictures of them or films of them is an uplifting experience in a way that could never have been anticipated so in that respect I don't think the story will ever end anyway do you think I wanted to I'm going to jump around I would speak and we'll talk about re-releases and new music and what do you think of anthology 4 I haven't heard you talk about that it was all right and I I was welcoming of the material I'd never heard before at least

1:15:41hadn't heard in years you know the opportunity to hear I'm released takes or mixes of tracks is always very welcome obviously there was some stuff on there that had been out before and that caused some anxiety amongst the dedicated fan base who were disappointed with the release and I followed all of that didn't really have much of an opinion on it myself I get less upset about these things and other people do and also I'm a lot less bothered about what label things come out on these days so I mean the fact that the fan community is is finding really great stuff that isn't on the anthology right that's that's all perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned but similarly whether or not it's got an official label on it it never really bothers me either it just can come out in any which way if I get sent an MP3 file or a wire file or a flat file of something new that I haven't heard before I'm just very happy and the anthology was a bunch of

1:16:44that but there's also a bunch is coming in from other places that have me equally excited so I wasn't that agitated about the fact that it was a bit disappointing and we've had a lot of out of Abbey Road I mean I'm old enough to and my in a way my mentality is set by how it used to be in the 70s and 80s when I was a teen and 20 something and looking to get something that was beyond the standard catalog and we would get very excited about the the mix of of all my loving that had the high-hat intro or the extended ending of it's all too much or whatever it might be that you could pick up if you bought some foreign pressings there was the rareities album that came out in 1980 from capital which had you know the the trumpet ending on Penny Lane for the first time right remember that all those things were exciting so we didn't think then that we get much out

1:17:47of the vaults at EMI that was really special and since then we've had four anthology albums and we've had the Abbey Road box the LED B box the white album box pepper box and revolver box we loads of outtakes we've had 5.1 mixes we've had all the separations you can get using AI and other software the mouse software and we've had to get back films so I mean we've had huge amounts of stuff and I'm not really going to start knocking them for the fact that some of those tracks were repeated on the last album I'm not either I mean there are some people who don't buy the box set you know of course of the costs or maybe they're not super into the Beatles away other people are like you were me and people listening to this so to me it's like I don't mind that they put out stuff that was in the box set because you know they sort of I don't want to say condensed the best stuff but it's there and it's nice to have it on two discs and I can

1:18:48institute on my car so yeah it's all of that I mean to me all these things are just content now yeah I mean the the main reason I buy the box sets is for the books that come with them yeah which I also get as PDFs but nonetheless it's quite nice to have a printed book but the discs themselves I never even play because I'm content with the files and the files circulate quickly so I'm not that bothered about I'm not a collector you see I used to be a collector but I gave it up a long time ago I just want the content and how it comes is almost unimportant that's that's a good point by the way how did you get a valver I know 62 because it's 1962 is it because a revolver or is it some other meaning for e-valver well when you create when you've got any new product you've got to think of a title true and and that was it was true for the Beatles in the 60s for all creative people ever no matter what it is a player book a film

1:19:51a piece of art you've got to give it a name and I just thought at that time when I was when I came up with it in 2022 I was planning to do a show every year each time being 60 years on so in 2023 I'd do a 63 show in 2024 I'd do a 64 show and so on all the way through to 2030 when I would do a 1970 show 60 years on and I just thought that because the the Beatles are always evolving that Evolver was both a play on revolver but also just a thing about each year there's going to be an evolution taking place off the Beatles so this is the 62 evolution and then I'll do 63 and so on but what happened was I mean I do these shows I did these shows principally to earn some money while I'm writing my books but I was finding that because I don't do things by half Berser these the

1:20:57these these shows were taking too long to prepare they were digging too deeply into my diary when I also have been writing so when it came to 2023 I tried to think of a way of doing a show that would be good for the audience but at the same time not take me so long to prepare and that show Evolver 63 was me sitting on stage with a celebrity known to be a Beatles scholar and aficionado and looking at stuff with them there's also on a big screen for the audience and talking about the Beatles with 1963 content on a screen and so giving people a conversation of celebrity face to look at and very good content curated for them on the screen that was the right formula in the sense of not taking very taking me away from my writing for long but still it took a little bit too long so when it came to 2024 and Evolver 64 I just let it slide and didn't do it

1:22:02since then I've continued to let it slide so my idea really only lasted for two years but the good news for for people wanting the books is that I've not been distracted that's good and of course here in America we would have liked to see you come over but I understand why you didn't there was talk of me doing I think you've always 62 I think there was talk of me doing that in the US but the reality is that it's very hard to get a show for a British guy to get a show together in America you've got to find an agent who's going to book the theatres I know how to do it in the UK because it's my territory but in America I'm less familiar with the kind of theatres that exist I the first thing to do I've had a conversation with a New York agent and he did the classic thing of seeming to be very interested in saying I'll bring you back next week and never got back to which is the height of rudeness because just get back and say no don't just leave me hanging

1:23:03sure there was also another angle of approach in 63 in 2023 where I tried very hard to get it flying in America where I felt that that system of that idea I had of interviewing celebrities about the strong beatless content on a screen for the audience to see I thought that would work well in America and there'd be loads of celebrities Bruce Springsteen and Conan O'Brien and Little Steven little Steven talks about how you know on on February 9th people were watching the Beatles on Sullivan and then on February 10th everyone was starting a band yeah exactly that and I'd go for Larry David and all sorts of interesting people who would have a good thing to say about the Beatles and be intuitive in what they say but it was very hard I'd ever got it off the ground okay and and also in the in the present circumstances it's

1:24:05ever harder for a British person to get a work permit in America very hard to get the money out of America because it's kind of the taxation thing is so tight so it's just too much bother understandable um we're talking with Mark Lewison he is the of course the great Beatles historian author he is currently promoting a new movie called Evolver 62 which is a fantastic thing to watch you can watch it online streaming you could also buy it on DVD if you want to buy it that way it it's very highly recommended by me and I think I've and everyone I know actually I want to talk about some of the things that happened in 1962 some of them are in your movie and some whom most of them aren't bar but I'm just there's a couple of things that the year if you think about it there's so many things that could have tripped the Beatles up and didn't you know it's like okay this is where a band normally would trip up and they didn't trip up and starting with the the

1:25:09Decker that what we now call the Decker audition tape or the Decker audition they could have been signed very easily by Decker and they never would have gotten George Martin they might not have been treated the way George Martin treated the Beatles and and there's a good chance that they might have had a couple of hits and you know Decker just doesn't know what to do with them and get that's very true um I'm I'm my strong suit is what happened I'm not so good on what ifs what if such and such and thing had happened then what would have happened well we don't know because it never happened that's true um but I do do a thing in the stage show I mean not everything that was in the stage show is in the film and I think one of the items in the stage show that isn't in the film is me looking at what would have happened if the Beatles are signed to Decker and the the example I use is because Decker didn't sign the Beatles they signed another group in state called

1:26:10Brian Poole and the tremolo's tremolo's I think went on to have a few hits in America the end of the 60s the silence was golden that was them well the four seasons did that originally yeah they did it but they yeah tremolo's also if that's right they did and they they had to hit in Britain silence is golden and by then the tremolo's were a four piece group who sang their own songs but at the beginning of the 60s they were an instrumental backing group behind a singer called Brian Poole and they auditioned for Decker pretty much at the same time as the Beatles and the the A&R guy Max Smith was told you can sign one of these and out of pool and the tremolo's or the Beatles he chose pool and the tremolo's for various reasons a bit of that is in the film actually a little bit but not all of it so we can look at the example of Brian Poole to see how actually what the Beatles would have been treated like and the very first thing is that they were made they were forced

1:27:13to do certain songs they didn't obviously weren't writing their own so they were given material which they may well not have liked but they had no choice they would have had to have done they did do what they were told to do their name was misspelled on the record label so they had to change the name of the band and even change the painting the painted sign on their van and their business cards and this stationary to reflect the miss spelling because that was how they became known tremolo's with an E-E-L-O-E-S and they also were forced to do two albums of other people's hits that came out in the UK and one in Canada basically medley's of the years hits by a group you've never heard of so it's not that far fetched to think had the Beatles signed to Decker instead of tremolo's they would have been given these jobs there was also they were given the job of

1:28:18doing backing vocals on a novelty record by then more or less unknown but up and coming British radio DJ called Jimmy Savile so they're on that record even though they're not credited theoretically therefore the Beatles might have been given that job instead of the tremolo's and Jimmy Savile is now absolutely percent a non-grata in the UK for vial acts of Peter Filia yeah that have uncovered after his death a few years ago so it's as well the Beatles don't have that on their CV as well so one reason or another it's just a very good thing that they didn't signed to Decker they would not have had George Martin they would not have had the opportunity to record their own songs it would have been totally different and there's every chance that they would have just simply faded away yeah and then also if they'd if it's and I'm jumping a year but if in America they had hidden off in in 63 on VJ you know they don't get the big push in 64 with

1:29:24capital and VJ barely paid anyone they had no money yeah well I disagree with you on that but I see where you're coming from there's actually more to that story I'm sure there is that's in my next book well that's 1963 we look forward to it you one of the things I liked in the movie is you actually show the tape of the first Beatles interview and it it looks so small and I look at I'm like how the hell did this last all these years yeah so how how did you find the tape it's from October 27th 1962 we played on October 28th I'm not mistaken right yeah yeah so we got on Saturday night and played the following day so so how how do you find this obviously it's part of your research but you mustn't jump up and down a little bit when you first got it oh I did it's along it's 40 plus years ago now since I acquired that tape but I'm

1:30:28it in the UK we didn't really have we didn't have local radio like you do in America I mean we got it eventually and we have it now of course but certainly in the early 1960s we only had national radio right Britain being summer smaller than the United States can have national things national newspapers national radio and television but there was a thing called hospital radio wasn't for every hospital but there will be a closed circuit broadcast system within the building of a hospital that could only be heard by people who are lying in bed sick as patients and there'll be a little radio set behind them and some awful pair of old what used to be called headphones but you wouldn't recognize them as headphones now there will be plugged into the wall and that would enable you to hear the hospital's own radio station and it will comprise people requesting records for patients in other wards or in the same ward so such and such a person in alphabet ward wishes to have a record played for their friend

1:31:35who's in beta max ward you know whatever it might be so one of the shows the Beatles did in october 1962 a guy came backstage with a tape recorder and a couple of lads from the local youth club as well and interviewed the Beatles for broadcast on hospital radio and unless you were ill in hospital and plugged into the war at that moment you would have missed it it basically got heard by about five people but the man who made the recording kept the tape wow discovered in a discovered its existence in the early 1980s trapped the man down it still had the tape and he let me hear it and I made him an offer cash offer to buy it from him including the copyright and he agreed he was late in life I think it was time to give it a new good home and I included a recording of it as a disc inside my first book that came out of 40 years ago 1986 the Beatles

1:32:40live which is that by the way is that something that could be I've been looking for I mean I've been looking for an inexpensive copy let's put it because it's gotten so high if you go on eBay have you thought of re-issuing that book I know there's some things that have come up since you wrote it but the book itself has a lot of great stuff in it even with you know the stuff that's come up since thank you and including the desk including the desk you know that's the other thing too yeah no I haven't thought about it I haven't I it will be a distraction um and all the information within it got folded into the Beatles complete Beatles Chronicle that comes out years later which is I don't know if that's available either but it probably is easy to find others that's one no I haven't I haven't really thought about that at all um but the nice thing was for this film we went back to the place where it was recorded to the very room where it was recorded which is a little side room off the main area in this place over the water from Liverpool

1:33:41the other side of the river and went into the room and the director had brought along an old 1960s take machine take deck and I got out the little original spool of take from 1962 and threaded it onto his deck thankfully I didn't mangle it right we played it in the room where it had been recorded which was a lovely thing to do that that was a great little moment because you're literally in the same spot where the picture is yeah the fact that it's all there it's just pretty pretty incredible you know if you think about just historic wise and um oh yeah it is it turns out to be the the Beatles first ever recorded interview and they they they're still quite unknown to the introduce themselves one by one they say who they are and what they do in the group and they give a little bit of their ported history and Paul volunteers he actually says without even being asked John is the leader of the group is that is that something we should over look at with intensity or is that just something that Paul would say in 1962 that maybe he wouldn't say

1:34:46in 1964 and that you know that's the proof that John was the leader of the Beatles you know you know how people get um or is it just just part of an interview with Paul if you want to know who the leader of the Beatles was I mean it's it's it's really unimportant it's to us as the general public um because they they they they had equal say and came across equally and we received them equally as well but within the Beatles just within their those four people their personalities there was a hierarchy uh and john and Paul volunteering that information is un arguable but the important point is to consider that it doesn't make any difference to anything right as far as we're concerned because certainly they were equal in the way they presented themselves and and they and why isn't there not actually because john and Paul really

1:35:46bossed that group right but but nonetheless um Paul felt the need to say it that was the point yeah it's and the fact that they are the so it actually took a picture of it too it's just it's such a great moment in capturing history that you don't know it's going to happen in 50 years or 40 years or whatever and you know there's the guys do the interviews there's the Beatles there's the microphone it's right in this room and then you go back to it in in the movie so yeah you know it's a picture was taken I mean it's no and it survives yeah and you even said you know that you know maybe five people heard it um it was only in the hospital do they have other hospital radio stations like this and a great Britain or is it just a yes but they weren't they weren't connected to one another oh okay so only people in that very hospital two hospitals actually he would be connected to one another by cable uh would have heard it i mean a handful of people and an uncountable number because it would no one would have realized who was listing and who

1:36:47wasn't okay so and also this isn't connected to the BBC because I've heard some people say it's oh that was part of the BBC whole network and the BBC took over everything and um no the BBC didn't take over anything the BBC was granted a chart since a broadcast to the nation didn't take things over oh yeah we don't we don't know that here in America you know there's a lot of these understanding I mean I did a Beatles Fest interview a couple of years ago and the guy said to me uh there was no pop music on BBC radio and I went yes there was he said well but they didn't want to play any more than the small amount and I said no they couldn't they want to allow to play more right and it's just obviously a great misconception but as there is in the UK as well as not just in America sure well speaking of the BBC I was always wondering the Beatles aren't signed when they do their first appearance on the BBC in March of 62 how do they get how do the BBC decide to put them on I mean if could have any band gone to the BBC you know whether you played good or bad or whatever anybody could apply for an audition

1:37:53um it wasn't the more amateur entertainment but provided that you could prove that you were in somewhere professional entertainer or that you did this seriously um then the BBC under its charter to the British people you would be feel obliged to give an audition it wasn't an audition that was broadcast but it was just an everyday occurrence within the life of the BBC to be receiving talent and auditioning them to establish whether or not they were good enough for broadcast so that's it didn't matter that they didn't have a commercial recording contract okay so that wasn't like part of the thing yeah what was important was that they were professional that and that they could indicate where they've been playing and that their line up was settled and they would come to the audition and they did audition and they passed that audition um and the producer who heard took the audition said I will give you a slot on in a radio program

1:38:53and there was a live show too wasn't a recording so it was a little different it was recorded for broadcast but it was recorded as a live show with an audience so it went out the next day but it was actually recorded the day before okay um one thing about the movie you show more stuff about when Pete best was let go um you've always said that Pete wasn't close to the band the way he maybe presented over the years and he's always presented that he was closer than maybe he was there's one thing you show is uh I think it was from from June of like the end of June 62 it's like the beginning of the end of Pete it was like a form um the letter it's a letter to Brian from his attorney right it's to me you know you always think with Pete that it all happened in August but it was already in it was already in motion two months earlier

1:39:56yes it was from June and the the desire to get rid of him and find another drummer was had been in within John Paul and George for a very long time I mean really since pretty much when they took him on in the first place but they'd not done anything about it and they'd allow Pete to get settled they were happy that Pete took care of the chore of making bookings for them of managing their diary if you like uh they didn't want to be bothered by that they also let their equipment be stored at the best house so getting rid of him was a more tangled thing than they would have wanted so they just didn't bother but when they got a manager then it was they heard well he can get rid of him then we'll get you Brian you can manage us but get rid of our drummer for us was basically how it was but Brian resisted it and said that changing their personnel would not be a good idea when he's still trying to do so much for them in terms of getting them on radio, getting them on television, getting them a recording contract

1:40:59the the clincher was when they went down to EMI the first time and George Martin let it be known that he would never use Pete best on a recording that he would next time the Beatles came down to the recording studio he would have a what they called a session drummer instead of Pete right and once the Beatles heard about this they thought we don't want to have a session drummer every time we go in a studio there's someone there that we've never met before someone who doesn't know our staff someone who may not like us maybe the different wrong generation Londoners don't particularly like people from Liverpool either so you know maybe with someone with animosity so if we're going to have this shovel every time we come down why don't we just do what we should have done a long time ago and get rid of him so they basically told Brian you got to get rid of him and Brian began the process in June that took two months to actually happen yeah because I always you always think of you know like I said it all

1:42:03happened in a couple of days but in the movie you see the actual views of paper yeah starts it off so well that shows I mean it's a great example of how uncovering pieces of paper will reveal the truth and this is a story that's been told very anecdotally the Beatles story not all of which are accurate and not all of which should have been ever said because they're just misleading but what you can't beat is a document that's got a date on it and it tells you exactly what was happening at that moment and that's what that is all about I found the whole slew of documents about Pete's dismissal they they did the the some other guy at the cavern club only a few days after they got rid of Pete was was that coming from a different angle was that going to happen no matter what whether if they got rid of Pete or not and maybe they don't get rid of Pete in time was was was was the decision to do record in the cavern club um what was

1:43:03that a little bit earlier the decision made and what Pete was still there or yes they know that Pete was leaving you know it was all set up the the the the granada cameras with the television cameras coming to the cavern a lunchtime on the 22nd August that is that incredible clip that we have of the Beatles doing the some other guy phenomenal that we have such a thing yeah the old film of the Beatles in the cavern it was known in advance that that would be happening but it focused their minds on well we don't want out if we're going to change drummer let's make sure we've got the new drummer before the TV cameras coming just otherwise it's that we've got filmed with the wrong guy from Pete's point of view I mean being on television was a big thing in those days as it turns out it wasn't broadcast for ages anyway but it's going to be broadcast quite quickly and everyone in in much more so then than now the big ambition to be on television and Pete was really really looking forward to being in that granada television film of the Beatles

1:44:06in the cavern um and so one of the big disappointments to him beyond being fired by the Beatles was the fact that he missed that he wouldn't be in that TV thing they were doing it was going to miss it but from the from Brian Epstein and the other Beatles point of view it brought it into focus in as much as let's make sure the new guys in before then right so they they they got rid of Pete on the 16th they they they started with Ringo on the 18th and the Granada thing happened on the 22nd and and by the way some of the guys still not released officially by Apple I mean I mean make every act is to go online and see it on YouTube but yeah it's such a historic moment for the Beatles and yeah and it's the only like you said the only footage from the the cavern yeah I don't remember now why we didn't use it in anthology um but anyway there must have been a reason it's all a long time ago um but again I'd go back to what I was saying really we've got it whether Apple have released it or not is kind of irrelevant we've to me yeah it's obviously

1:45:10because it's out there you know yeah exactly you know it's it's funny because you know you mentioned getting stuff in the 80s and I still remember a group of guys and you know some of the people driving into the city because we'd heard the sessions album had been released and it was at our local not local but of the store in the village on eighth street yeah and we were all excited we paid $25 for it was expensive and we're like wow we got the sessions album wow you know you know so we had it yeah so you know it was great but you know other things have come across sense and the quality is a lot better but at that time we didn't know no that was you know we didn't know there's gonna be more let's put that way you take what you can when you can how you can I agree with that with that to finish off I'm talking about the Beatles in the cavern ringo sorry Pete was there it turns out that was something I discovered when writing the book that he was actually

1:46:12there he didn't he was so much that he did not want to miss it that he went even though he wasn't in the group anymore hoping to be on film in some way but he never was oh wow but it's because he was there the someone in the audience a male voice shouted out we want Pete you hear that at the end yes yes yes and he's prompted by the fact that his act Pete is actually standing there wow well that is a that's the fun of reading your books and you're in seeing your movies is you find out stuff like this which adds to the story yeah it does I have two more questions I know you have to you know get back to do what you're doing I've recently been reading about Roy Young yeah was there any chance was it true that he was maybe asked to be a member of the Beatles he was a piano player he played in Hamburg he was with Tony Sheridan he you know had a good deal going in Hamburg but he also played with the Beatles was there any chance he was going to become a member

1:47:16you know they need a piano player you know fifth member was that just I don't think I mean I mean Roy is now passed away but I met him before he died obviously and met him in Hamburg fun enough at an event and I liked him I was a nice guy a gentle soul and with a really good pedigree of playing on sessions and everything back to the beginning of rock and roll in the UK pre-beatals late 50s stuff and he was on television they I mean he was a bit of a hero to the Beatles they'd seen him on television and you know that meant a lot right he was at the Star Club the first time the Beatles were there which was the spring of 62 was there their third trip to Hamburg and he said in interviews that they asked him to join I don't think so I mean I've got no proof that he's right or wrong but it doesn't fit it just doesn't it's hard to understand why they would want a fifth player and a keyboard player at that I mean kid adding keyboards was very

1:48:22problematic because you'd typically you couldn't really cart them around so you'd be reliant on the venue that you play having one already there in working order it was a hassle and and the Beatles wouldn't have wanted a hassle they also wouldn't have wanted something someone who wasn't one of them in the sense of being a sharp young kid from Liverpool who had been to the art school or or to the grammar school next door so maybe there maybe something was said about if they make a record and they need keyboards would he come and play there might have been some kind of an approach but not joining the band surely not okay that's it you see things like that in you you know part of it's the internet of you see stuff it looks like it was well written you look like it has a good source yeah so I'm just you know it's just something that you know could have it bit I guess is yeah well in that case the source is one of the only source there is was Roy Young himself telling that anecdote right and and that's where you need to start saying well

1:49:23okay I hear what you're saying can can it be supported in any way is it is it plausible is is there a document that actually backs this up in some way and there's nothing underneath that at all just a claim by Roy right and it may be one of tens of thousands of examples of people claiming things that actually can't be proven and and may not be true and then that is well I learned that my additional question you know there's so much on the internet you can just type in Beatles and you can get thousands of stories whether they're true or not as a researcher how how do you not get bold over by like some stuff that looks really good and then he's like hold you read one thing and then it's just totally crap and you know it's a whole lie and I know you double check and I know you I know you have great research prowess but there's kind of you some stuff that just says come on guys you know why they put some this crap out well I mean

1:50:27there was always misinformation about the Beatles I mean it's been me going around everyone I studied my first book there was plenty of it around that and that time that I was trying to counter with the more accurate information but I mean who knew then about the internet and social media and and all the things that we have these days in 2026 so it's much much much much much much much much worse these days than it ever used to be so I just disregard all of it I just don't pay any attention to it I go to primary sources always I don't want something second hand or third hand that's unsupported it's it's no value to me I can't use it wouldn't use it wouldn't touch it and but one of the advantages I have is I've been doing this such a long time that you kind of get to know whether something smells right or not and a lot of things just don't smell right and you just know well I couldn't really use that in all the faith because I don't believe in it myself well there was a recent one where the the Beatles stopped their concert when I think it was in 1964

1:51:33because a girl was crying too much and they they I don't know I just I'm watching this I go who the hell is believing this crap and I and I get angry about it and I try not to respond because then you get into that stupid fight well how do you know and you know well yeah I maybe read a book or two you know right I can't win so he's better not to engage the disappointing thing is that these things are so right now yeah and that they can't be rode back I mean the game is lost in that in that sense but it makes it all the more important that books of authority where the research is done very very carefully and thoroughly do still come out and not the only one who does them but these books need to be done soon including my own to ensure that those who in the future who do want to know exactly what happened and not all that internet rubbish and can go and find it well there one more story that I did get off the internet and I was from a good source

1:52:36and then involved when you when live at the BBC was being worked on and there was a story about this girl whose father had recorded all the pop go the Beatles and yeah they were I guess it was a word put out by the BBC were looking for stuff who has stuff and she had a real and they they played it for you you were one of the people in the room at least and you said that's perfect or something along those lines you that you you approved the the tape and I was wondering if you remembered that time and because a lot a lot of it ended up being on the first live at the BBC it was like 15 songs or something that came from her tape yeah that's right well what actually happened there was that I used to write for in addition to my Beatles work I've also had a few years when I wrote about radio and television um particularly the history of radio and television and there is a weekly magazine in this country that's now been going for 104 years called radio

1:53:41times it used to be the BBC's magazine that published the listings for BBC radio programs and then television and ultimately all channels because the market became too regulated and it's still going now after 104 years as a weekly magazine and I used to write for them which was a great privilege and so I knew the editor and I was in the office in October 1992 when my book The Complete Beals Chronicle came out and I had a copy with me and I knocked on the editor's door Sue Robinson and I went in there and said I've just this is a new book of mine um here have a copy um perhaps hoping she might include it in the magazine mention it but also just you know she was giving me work and I wanted to give her a book and she said oh um girl I used to know a friend of mine in fact girl I still know a friend of mine um recorded a lot of the Beatles BBC radio programs off air on quite

1:54:44good recordings I think and I went oh and instantly my researchers is pricked and I just thought ah should find out more about this I said I'm interested to know more will you please put me in touch with her anyway she put me in touch with her and I ended up finding out exactly what this woman had recorded um and got a list of everything she had got and the I was told these recordings were made using a good quality tape debt at a recent I think seven and a half IPS tape and she was one of the very few listeners in Britain in those days who listened on FM most people listened on AM we didn't call it AM and FM in those days it was medium wave and VHF but nonetheless AM and FM I didn't know that I didn't know that she had recorded them on FM when almost nobody had the equipment to listen right um and so all these times she still had the tapes so I made an

1:55:47inventory of them I wrote to my contact at EMI until I found someone who's got recordings of all these tapes anyway long story cut short they got her into Abbey Road I was there we listened to all the tapes EMI made her an offer for them and bought them so she was very happy she got a load of money for these old tapes right and then they included them on the live at the BBC album so they recorded seven and a half not one in seven eighths which quality wise would have been different or three and three quarters which is the one in between I'm pretty sure they were seven and a half I mean they were they were they were they were very good and she had about a dozen different shows I think um so credible if you think about it I mean that's one of the great finds in the collecting worlds um there's nothing yeah there's nothing you've been looking for that you haven't found yet there would something that that popped up you would be real excited I mean this you know do you I mean I obviously don't have everything because you can't have everything but is there a thing

1:56:50that says okay I need to find that I need to find that you know um the only the the thing that springs to my mostly is the the recording of a business meeting that were they held in December sorry September 1969 on the ninth of September 1969 of a meeting discussing the next album and and and how they get control of their business from that point in September 1969 a week later John said he wants to break the group up right or at least leave the group but there's no hint of that in the meeting on September the 9th which is only a week earlier and it was recorded because Ringo missed the meeting and they wanted him to hear what he was missing so he stuck a cassette recorder on the table and while they talked for an hour they were recorded and I've heard six minutes of that right um but I would long to hear the rest of it

1:57:56yeah well that's uh a fun uh yeah something fun to hear I guess is the best way to uh one of the I think I think it's potentially very important I mean in the six minutes that we have this some sensational stuff that he said right right kind of changing the history as we know it so and if you've out if you've seen yeah I don't know if you've seen man on the run but there's a clip that's been floating around of John saying well maybe Paul was right about Alan Klein which is such you know it's a it's a great line because John admits that maybe he was wrong which he didn't always do and uh Paul gets vindicated so I see I just I think I mean April the twelfth 1973 I think that is okay something 1973 was from a British TV program which I watched go out at the time weekend world and thankfully it survives on videotape and in color too so um that's a very important interview not just for that fragment that was used but for other bits the fact that John said it

1:59:00it should be it looks like Paul is vindicated but there's no I'm not going to argue with that Paul is vindicated but let's remember that John said there when he didn't need to say it you said that John didn't always admit I think John always did admit I think he was always quite I mean he volunteers the fact that um they were wrong and Paul it looks was right so he didn't have to say that that part to you that's a good point that's a good point um so we must always keep in mind that but but I mean Paul felt the others hadn't thanked him enough eventually um for putting the breaks on our own client uh they thanked him in a kind of grudging way um that is so much more complex than anybody knows including me yeah that and to make something about you know what's the reason why the Beatles broke up no one over here says in the old days maybe not now but oh was your close fault no was lindus fault no it was Paul being a jerk no was John being a strong out heroine

2:00:01you know what a lot of it has to do with the choice of Alan Klein as the three of them's manager and you know basically trying to do what he did to the stones um grab all the money and the rights to the recordings I'm not sure about that you sure not really okay I'm not sure about that I mean yeah it does come across that way one of them didn't want Alan Klein but three of them didn't want John Eastman that's true that's true you know just always always suicides through every coin that part I didn't mention that you're right the right about that Klein could not have got any control of their recordings because they were assigned to ear my capital until 1976 uh and the ones that had been recorded did not belong to the Beatles so they couldn't get the recordings off the Beatles because they didn't they didn't have them to give him okay um similarly the publishing was in other hands as well um no Klein came in because they needed him they needed someone to do what he was doing which was to drastically prune back their spending uh and to try and give them greater

2:01:04control over something that they'd allowed to get out of control uh and Klein came in with a clear mandate from three of them and indeed four of them sometimes because Paul was quite often supportive of what Klein was doing in that period of time spring 69 um it's much more nuanced than anybody knows it really is much more nuanced I would say at the present time that the the biggest cause of the Beatles breakup was Klein and Eastman not getting along that's a good point uh you know because a lot of bands you know if you look at the like like the rolling stones now each member has an old their own manager so to have you know Paul have his own manager and the other three pick on Klein you know it's not something then that happened but today it does yeah I mean they knew exactly what Klein was like um and uh they they felt that he couldn't make a grab for things that they didn't own anyway yeah um but there was an attempt to get him to get them ownership of things

2:02:09that that was bound to fail because they were in corporate hands um no it's it's always two sides to every coin why didn't three of them won Johnny Smith that's true that that was part of it they knew Johnny Smith first that's true that's true well Mark I want to thank you for joining me today a Volvo 62 is out there you can stream it you can buy it uh where can they buy it Mark you have on your website or what do you get it my website is so poor I don't think it even mentions the film it can be bought on amazon prime if you want to stream it and apple and hulu and other streaming sites like that uh possibly it may be through amazon.com that you can actually buy the blue rail the DVD or the production companies Liverpool West Liverpool West so google google Liverpool West and you will land on the page of the company that has made the the product and we should say because you mentioned another time that the first interview from 62 is available on your website

2:03:12and because I have a YouTube channel for oh YouTube YouTube channel uh a YouTube channel that I don't update but it is still active and the complete tape is there so you know don't take it from other sites go to mark sites so we can pay you get paid 0.0001 cent not pound but a cent at least at least you know you're supporting him you know so it's a great movie I I'm glad you did it um like I said I I would like to see more of it but I know you're writing so which one do you do first and I understand both so right so I mean of the shows I've done this was going to be one of those films so I have no sequel to come no sequel no maybe one day we'll see Lewis and strikes back I mean yeah anyway thank you Mark and for those who don't know I'm looking into Mark's room where he has everything it's his research room is that your only research room yeah there's a lot

2:04:13stuff in there yeah there's a lot of stuff yeah there's a lot of stuff Mark thanks for joining us and uh you want to you want to pick a song you know we always let our our guests pick a song so you you have any songs you want to hear from 1962 we'll pick a 62 song and you talk it up as if you were on the BBC oh wow well the BBC in those days would have been very very very straight yeah be Brian Matthew yeah we've got um I walk out the song from 62 I don't know please well actually please believe it's 63 so okay well um I think ask me why although released in January 63 it was recorded in November the 26th it's the b-side of the blitz please me single and it's a it's a great little song that was composed by principally by John in the spring of 62 I love you

2:05:14because you tell me things I want to know and it's so and it really only goes to show that I know that I I know you'll never never never be blue now you're my happiness makes me cry and in time yeah yeah yeah yeah you understand the reason why if I cry it's not because I swear but you'll be only like I've ever had I can't believe it's happened to me I can't can see of any more misery ask me why I say I love you and I'm always thinking of you

2:06:22I love you because you tell me things I want to know and it's true and it really only goes to show that I know that I should never never never be blue ask me why I say I love you and I'm always thinking of you I can't believe it's happened to me I can't can see of any more misery ask me why I say I love you and I'm always thinking of you

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2:13:46The way things are going They're gonna cross their path You say yes I say no You say stop I say go go go Oh no You say goodbye But I say hello Hello hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello I say hi You say no

2:14:46You say why I say I don't know Oh no You say goodbye I say hello Hello hello hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello Hello hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello Don't you say goodbye Oh no You say goodbye I say hello Hello Hello hello I don't know why you say goodbye

2:15:46I say hello Hello hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello Do you say yes or say yes I say hi You say stop Cause stop Oh no, oh no You say my, and I say my love Now hello, I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello, now hello I don't know why you say my, say my love You know, you know, you know why it's like a life I say, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

2:17:02Hey la, hey la hey la, hey la, hey la hey la covers all the time I always thought that that ending lay the groundwork for what would become the ending of Hey Jude? I don't know if it's true? just something I've noticed over the years of the years. You're listening to 90.3 WHPC. Beatles songs is on your radio or your listening device, whether it's nccradio.org or tuning in or Odyssey or I heart. Of course, it could be the WHPC app. I suggest everyone listening to this show or this radio station get the WHPC app is a lot of good things on it. You can win tickets to shows. You can win other prizes. Plus, it helps you. If you want, you can have a, you know, there's an alarm clock on it. So it wakes up to WHPC. So if you have the old one, by the way, you have to get rid of the old one to get

2:18:08the new one. I thought you can keep the old one because that's why I'm not a big app guy. But when I was told I had to switch it over, I said, okay, I can do it. It's a very simple lap in the sense it's we're not trying to suck every piece of information about your life, you know, for no apparent reason. So just let you know. Before that, we heard what we hear. We heard the ballad of John and Yoko today. If you go back to 1969, John and Yoko got married. And we heard also ask me why and we just heard hello, good bye. All of them, by the way, in mono from the mono box set or not the wrong phrase. The CD singles when they were put out with actual covers this time because all the BBC, all the British stuff had no bad covers. They didn't have any covers.

2:19:11They started to change that and they put out the British singles and almost all of them were in mono. But at the time it was the only place to get them in mono. So and if you look at Beatles one, technically those are singles and they should have put them out in mono, but they didn't. Which I understand why. But technically that's all the singles were almost all of them were in mono. So, but this was the only place to get them at the time. And I got them when I came back to the radio show back in 1996, it was, you know, I had to get some stuff I didn't have. So I got the EPs because they were in mono and I got the singles collection because they were in mono. And at the time, it was tough to find anything in mono Beatles wise. So just part of the fun of being a fan and a collector. Ken and Dale called in. I said, Rob, can you play since,

2:20:14St. Patrick's Day was a few days ago. There's a couple of songs we can play. Here's one of them. Here's, give Ireland back to the Irish. Ken and Dale and Hicksville right here are 90.3 WHPC. Give us a call 516-572-744-0 or Texas, either one. Give Ireland back to the Irish. Don't make them have to take it away. Give Ireland back to the Irish. Make Ireland back to the Irish. Give Ireland back to the Irish.

2:21:27Give Ireland back to the Irish.

2:22:27And all the people say that people must be free Everyone, back it all up, there's a man who looks like me And he dreams of God and country And he's feeling real And he's feeling real and bad And he's sitting in a prison Take should he lie down Through my head Cheeky head Come on man Get violent back to the Irish Don't make them have to take it away

2:23:27Get violent back to the Irish Get violent back to the Irish Don't make them have to take it away Get violent back to the Irish Don't make them have to take it away Get violent back to the Irish Okay, let's go I want to see, want to see

2:24:27If you have a look of the Irish You'd be sorry and wish you were dead You should have a look of the Irish And you'd wish you were singlicious dead Thousand years of torture and hunger Drove the people away from their land A land full of beauty and wonder Was raped by the British bargains God down, God down If you could keep voices like flowers There'd be some rock all over the world If you could drink dreams like Irish strings Then the world would be hires the mountain of gold

2:25:34In the pool it told us the story How the English divided the land Of the pain and the death and the glory And the poets of all that land If we could make plays with the morning dew The world would be like a way back Let's walk over rainbows like every dawn The world would be one big funny stone Why the hell are the English there anyway? As they kill with God on their side Blame it all on the kids and the IRA

2:26:35As the bastards commit genocide I genocide If you had a look of the Irish You'd be sorry and wish you were dead You should have a look of the Irish Yes you'd wish you was English and Stan Yes you'd wish you was English and Stan 90.3 WHPC looking at the whole Irish thing From two separate views, John's view and Paul's view His version was credit to Linda also Not every song was Paul and Linda McCarty Because it just said McCarty So I'm not sure which ones are which

2:27:36Nowadays it says which ones but I don't have anything in front of me We'll go with that Excuse me, look at the Irish That is the remix from power to the people Before the African and Dale out in Hicksville In Mono for Saul out in Kenosha, Wisconsin And the ballad of John and Yoko in Mono For Kevin out in Neuro Shell This next one's going out To or from Steve in Brooklyn To his friends Jack and Marie And they're up in like the Lake George area Or something Where are they from? Yeah Lake George right around there Listening on the interweb And this is also in Mono Everything we've been playing so far is from either the CD box set Or the EP box set So here is there's a place from the twist and shout EP Now this is a great cover The EP's all had covers

2:28:36The singles didn't I'm sure that was a EMI thing But I love the cover You know, I'm jumping What it looks like off a roof Anyway, here's there's a place right here At 90.3 WHPC Beatles songs And there's no time when I'm alone I think of you And things you do Go round my head The things you say

2:29:38Like I love you In my mind there's no sorrow Don't you know that it's all Maybe no sad tomorrow Don't you know that it's all There is a place Where I can go When I feel low Where I feel blue And it's my mind And there's no time when I'm alone There's a place There's a place There's a place 90.3 WHPC

2:30:41I always like to say this Here's new music from Ringo Star It's been too long right here On 90.3 WHPC Music When it's been too long Since we've seen each other Yeah, it's been too long Since we listen to one another It's been too long Since we dream many dreams It's been too long Since we've floated downstream Together Together It's been too long It's been too long Since we've smelled the ground

2:31:43Lost right from the outside Since we hid the earth's grain Since we didn't do a thing It's been too long yeah It's been too long Since we were off one mind It's been too long Since we've left it all behind It's been too long Since we've held on tight It's been too long Since we ramble through the night Together Together It's been too long Since we sang a sad refrain It's been too long

2:32:45Since we trusted what we made Since we wrote it by the fear It's been too long It's been too long It's been too long It's been too long Ringo's second album with T-bone Burnett That is new music from Ringo from his fourth coming It's called a country album It would be wrong It's too strummy It's not as country as like Boku of Blues But maybe this is the country of today And I just don't know it

2:33:45I don't know But it's a fun song It's two and a half minutes It has a lot of things that I like The song is called It's been too long Right here at 90.3 W-H-P-C That out in Stony Brook Is listening in But he's down in Florida He's down in Orlando At Comic Con How many is Comic Con for everything? No, it's not But it's one of those It's the B-L-Fest Reconic book fans How's that for an answer? He won here Magneto and Titania Man And I said we can do that Right here at 90.3 W-H-P-C Well, I was talking last night I need a entertaining app We were talking about U-B

2:34:49They said You were smiling around the ring That was due to happen at a quarter to three In the main street I didn't believe I didn't believe I need a entertaining app But when the crimson dynamo finally assured me Well, I knew You were smiling around the ring That was due to happen at a quarter to three In the main street So we went out I needed a entertaining app And the crimson dynamo came along for the ride We went down with the library And we swam all over the long road Banking in the main street Who was as she went around to my despair

2:35:49She's a five-star criminal Great enough to come Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh Together all voices are wrong It's can't be so It occurred to me There couldn't be bad That night, always man To turn into A victim of alumma We just couldn't earn a lot, you would love We went to town with a library and we swung all over that long tall bank in Main Street

2:36:49You know the one I mean? Welcome! Let's you find the spot Jesus, why I'm starting to remember Bring it up, come on I need a set now the time has come Together all voices run Oh no, this can't be so Let it go to me, you couldn't be bad Matt made a wish man To tie you to We can't earn a lot, we just couldn't earn a lot, you would love I blessed the day I found you

2:37:57I want to stay around you And so I beg you Let me meet Don't take this ever from me If you must clean the sun warm I went for it They made me It's time we meet love I find complete love Without your sweet love One would like me

2:39:00So never leave me lonely Tell me you love me And let you always Let me meet Each time we meet love I find complete love Without your sweet love One would like me So never leave me lonely Tell me you love me only Let you always

2:40:04Let me meet And let you always Let me meet Music Don't write a little letter Really true for a lonely day I'm talking with a record You brought my job into play

2:41:06Hold up me, don't you I hear it again I hear it again I hear all my temperatures rising I chew the back from you I hopped eating rhythm And my soul is a sinking woman Hold up me, don't you Tell my cows to the moon I've got all my pain and pneumonia I need another rhythm or move I think I've pulled it up the right I think you're down and don't really do Hold up me, don't you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you

2:42:07I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you I'd like to meet you

2:43:23That's like a spinning top It's gotta be useful I wanna see you paint the bottom Like what you gotta do Or you can never stop One of the Beethoven One of the Beethoven One of the Beethoven One of the Beethoven One of the Beethoven One of the Beethoven One of the Beethoven Live in Japan

2:44:26There are Clapton's band that's George Harrison Covering Chuck Berry Roll over Beethoven We send that out to Jackson listening out in Colorado Springs Oh, whoops I'd like to thank the Baron and Larry for making me come here to Japan It's been very nice And I love you Thank you Like what he said, making me come to Japan I mean, Eric just suggested it, you know It's too bad Eric did make him come to the States Because there was little whispers that George might do it And then he realized I'd have to tour I'd have to stay in hotels Too bad, man I was waiting for that It would have been nice if George had come to the States Because his voice would have sounded much better It wipes away that 1974 tour voice thing that still hangs around

2:45:29You know, if you ever read the Ben Fong Torres Review It was called lumbering in the material world Boy oh boy did The Ben Fong Torres line up with knives For that review It was just, it was just a horrible review Before that, let it be me For Kevin had an Avon, Indiana For Scotty out in Stony Brook, Magneto, Intentany, and Man It's been too long New music from Ringo Starr for Peter out in Tampa Bay And for Steve out in Brooklyn to Jackson and Marie out in Lake Grove Yeah, Lake Grove No, not Lake Grove What town is it? Lake George, Lake Grove is At least we heard the model version of There's a place I want to thank everyone for checking in Dave out in Rockland County Tom and Joyce out in

2:46:31Asbury Park, what Tom's river Jerry and Chewley in Belmore, San listening in In Queens, Mitchell, in Siasit, Mike Out in, let's see In Michigan Can read it for a second. Jeremy, I'm not sure where Jeremy's from He doesn't listed on Facebook Dale, also I don't know where he's from Ed and Saul But that Saul's already been mentioned And we thank everyone for checking in on that There's lots of ways you can check in You can check in 516572 740 And if you want You can leave a text there You can call me at that same number Get there, that's pretty cool too And you can do that So there's lots of ways to do And we thank Kathy out in West Babylon And who else? Mike listening out in Levittown So I think we got everyone

2:47:31I'm sure I missed someone, I'm sorry if I did We try to get everyone's suggestion on But we've been getting so many lately That there have been weeks we haven't gotten to them all And I apologize It's a good thing that people want to hear us Or if we've got Derek out in East Hills But sometimes It just gets too crowded on the On the Boat, so to speak Anyway, coming up at 11 o'clock The kickstart is coming up So I hope you listen to that With DJ Rocky Hollows It does a good job doing a dance show Not a bad thing And what else is going on here? Is there anything else we're missing here? No, I think we got everyone So we're running out of time But thank you all for checking in This one's going out to Linda And Andrew and Beth Page They wanted to hear Maybe I'm amazed from the one hand clapping sessions Now the music sounds great If you ever saw the movie

2:48:31It was shot on a three-quarter wrench And whatever reason Just didn't turn out very well And three-quarter it You know It's more of an archiving tape than anything else I remember seeing it in the theaters It just was a mess But the sound sounded okay So here's maybe I'm amazed One hand clapping session Right here at 90.3 WHPC Beetle sounds Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time Or maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you Maybe I'm amazed at the way you move me all the time

2:49:35Home me on a line Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you Maybe I'm a man Maybe I'm a lonely man Because it's a middle of something That he doesn't need you on the stand Maybe I'm a man you Maybe you're the only woman who could have never helped me Maybe would you help me to understand

2:50:51It's on the head, that is really on the stand Never made, maybe it's the only one I knew could ever help me It's all that would you have been on the stand Maybe I'm amazed at the way you're with me all the time Maybe I'm afraid of the way I leave you Maybe I'm amazed the way you're with me It's in my soul, you write me what I'm wrong Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you Maybe I'm alive, maybe I'm a lonely man You said to me that it's something that is really beyond the stand

2:51:59Maybe I'm a lonely man, maybe it's the only one I knew could ever help me Maybe it would you have been on the stand Maybe I'm a lonely man Maybe I'm a lonely man Maybe I'm a lonely man, maybe I'm a lonely man You said to me that it's something that is really beyond the stand That is really on the stand

2:52:59Maybe I'm a lonely man, maybe it's the only one I knew could ever help me Maybe it would you have been on the stand But I mean Yeah, maybe I'm a Maze Yeah, maybe I'm a Maze Yeah, maybe I'm a Maze I'm a Maze 90.3 WHPC from one hand clapping slightly different arrangement there. It seems like the ending was a mistake. I think someone thought it was over and then they kicked into the ending,

2:54:05which is why it ended on Wingsover America. But it was more rehearsal, this one hand clapping. Test out the new drummer, new guitar player, see if they were going to tour. They didn't actually worked out better. It toured in 75 Australia, coming to states in 76, finished up over in England. Not a bad thing. And they got a movie out of it. They got a great three record set. Thank you bootleggers who put it out. The Los Angeles form show is a three record set. It sort of made Paul say, you know what, I better put out the whole show, which he did except for a couple of little things. I just wish some talk was left in, which it wasn't some of the bootlegs if you can find it. The talk is there and there's a lot more talk than you remember, though I didn't see the tour, but from just, you know, from the movie and stuff like that. And we also want to thank MJ out of Coral Springs Florida and Martin. I don't know what town Martin's from. Your WHPC weather forecast powered by Pantano's gourmet with locations in Uleth and Uniondale. Well, tonight it's going to be

2:55:13cloudy. A little bit of rain. The rain's going away by two o'clock in the morning. It'll be a low of 45 tomorrow. It's going to be cloudy, mostly sunny, high about 55 and tomorrow night. It's going to be cloudy. It's going to go down to about 43 currently outside the studios here at Nassau Community College. It is 46 degrees. Not bad. My name is Rob Leonard. Thank you for finding this show. We're here every Friday from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Remember in two weeks, we do our fundraiser show for those who want to donate money to be a, a disc jockey with me, a co DJ co host. It's $150 this year, but it is a tax write off. And that's all it matters. Plus you get to come on the air. You pick the song as you want to do. If you want to do a theme, you can. If you just want to hang out and play music on the radio, you can do that too. Either way, it's, it's always a fun thing.

2:56:13It's the most popular thing at this radio station for fundraising. And also want to thank everyone who liked the Mark Lewis and interview. And I want to thank Mark for coming on the show. If you go to, we'll be up online. I don't know when next week, by then, by next week or so. If you go to the podcast I do with Mitchell Axelrod and Tony Chogrado, it's called The Fab for Free For All. And we have an interview with Mark Lewis and on that because Mitch and I did the interview first. And then I said to Mark, I have a few more questions going to have you on on my show. And he said, of course. So that's what we did with my show and the interview for my show. So, but there's a lot of different questions if you look at it. And if you want to listen to any of the podcasts that Mitch, Tony and I have done, it's right there. Fab for free for all. com. And you can just listen to any show you want. And don't forget our friend Doug in San Diego.

2:57:16He has the Beatles radio show podcast or audio cast. It's at the best way to do it because my brain doesn't remember it is to go to Google, type in Beatles radio shows. And the first thing that's going to come up is Doug Sight, which is on redcircle.com. It'll say Beatles radio shows. You click on that and you can listen to my show. We can listen to Chris Carter show Terry Hemmert show, Joe Johnson show, plus podcasts and a whole bunch of other things. So it's a great show. If you like Beatles radio. And we thank Doug for doing that because he loves Beatles. He loves radio. And he does a great job every weekend. The show is up right away. So I gotta give him a lot of credit. Anyway, thanks for listening. Take care. I'll see you Sunday with the free for all 10 AM. I'll see you Monday talking sports with him brother Tim. Bye bye.