Best of the Program | Guests: Jonathan Cahn & Chris Salcedo | 9/9/26

0:00What an amazing show today. Oof. If you have a chance, listen to the whole thing because there's a lot in here, but I know you're busy, so here's the best of. We start with unity without merger, and this comes off of James Telfico's statement that he made recently that, you know, I think Allah and Jesus, they're, I mean, it's the same God. No, no, it's really not James. It's really not, and I explain the trap that is being set for so many Christians right now. Also, Jonathan Khan continues our conversation from yesterday. He's got a new book out about the seed of Satan, the altar of Satan, literally, it's, you know, from ancient times, but his new book is kind of like angels and demons or the Da Vinci code, except this one is full of facts. It's a fascinating read, and you need to listen to the Jonathan Khan interview from today. And Chris Salcedo covering the Republican Convention here

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3:06I'm with you. I'm with you. We can argue about your church, my church. We can do that all day long. I want to talk to you about unity, not merger. And that's, that is the entire, that's the entire game here. And there's going to be somebody that comes up to you, somebody that you respect, a pastor or a writer, somebody you've been reading for years, some guy on stage that, you know, you'll be listening to, and he stands up and it tells you, culture is rotting. Your children are be hanging and handed a life without any meaning to it. And the people that are running the institution despise your faith and stop pretending about it years ago and that the family is being dismantled on purpose and every word of that is true. And then, and then he'll say, people have been saying this for a while, and now look at, it's proof, you can see it in the streets.

4:09And so it's time to stop fighting each other, Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Jew, Muslim. The old arguments are a luxury that we can't afford anymore. There's a fire and we're arguing about the color of the water or the hat, the fireman is wearing. And you'll think, well, you know what? That makes a lot of sense and that sounds like Jesus, Jesus loves everybody. Yeah, he does, he does, but he also speaks the truth. Even if you're wrong, he'll speak it to you in love. Okay? A half truth arriving with the face of the thing that you love. That's what you'll be hearing, a half truth. Because there's a version of that invitation that is entirely good and Christians have taken it for a very long time without losing anything and we used to call it standing shoulder to shoulder. I got a Jewish neighbor and a Catholic neighbor and an atheist neighbor and we all go to the same school board, you know, with the same specific outrage

5:10and you feed the same hungry people and you offend each other's right to worship especially when you're certain that the other guy is wrong about what he's worshiping and nobody pretends and you disagree about God on Sunday and you're at the same table serving others on Tuesday. That's good, that's good. But there's a second version that is now being pushed in our churches by people like Tallariko and people on our side. I've got to tell you and I'm going to have to save it till next week. You know, there's the green red alliance. That's the Muslim Marxist. There is, I'm calling it a gold black alliance that is happening on our side and you need to understand it or you're going to be lost. So this second version sounds an awful lot like the first one but in the second one, you're not asked to stand beside each other. You're asked to agree that disagreement never mattered. I know my faith, I know some people say I'm not even a Christian.

6:14I'm a Christian. Jesus saved me by calling on his name as the only way to God. He saved me, he redeemed me, I know it. You don't think that sounds Christian, that's fine. I don't need you to believe it. And I'm not trying to change your, you can argue with me on that all day long. It's the American thing to do. It's good, it's good. I don't want you to change your belief. I'm not saying, hey, join me because we're going to merge. No, no, that's wrong. And the distance between these two conversations is about an inch but it's the entire game. Now, let me show you the mechanism and how it works. So once you see it, hopefully it'll put a stake in this and you'll be able to recognize it, not miss it when it comes your way. Let me tell you a book in the heart of Hinduism, 700 verses, hundreds of millions of people have loved it for 2000 years, maybe you have read it. It opens at a battlefield at dawn.

7:16And two armies are drawn up and it's a family war, okay? The greatest archer of his age is fighting for the side that was cheated. He's fighting for the good side and he has no doubt that his cause is just. And he asks the man driving his chariot, take me out into the open ground right in the center because I need to look at what, I need to look at them in the eye. I need to see them before I do this thing. And so he goes out in the field and he looks at the other side and it destroys him. The men across on the other side, he's not killing strangers. He'll be killing his cousins and his uncles and an old teacher who taught him how to shoot, standing over there with a bow and arrows. I'm gonna shoot him or he's gonna shoot me. My grandfather of the whole family is an armor waiting for him. So he sees this and he sits down in the chariot and his mouth is dry and his skin is burning and he's losing his bow is slipping out of his fingers and he's like, what am I gonna do?

8:17I would rather be cut down unarmed than win a throne over my family's bodies. And the rest of the book is the answer he gets from the man holding the reins and it runs like this. What you're grieving isn't real. What's actually alive in those men can't be killed. A body is a coat and your coat gets changed. Remember, they believe in reincarnation. So you're not gonna kill that person, that person is just wearing a coat and it's gonna get changed. You were born to do this. Do the thing that's yours to do because it's right and let go of any claim on how it turns out. Then the archer asks him, who's telling, who are you? And the driver shows him and the man in the servant's seat holding the reins, the driver of the chariot is God. Okay? Now here's the part that matters. After all of the argument about duty and detachment

9:18from what it means in the end, the last word isn't duty. It's this of everything I told you, the highest is to love me. Give me your heart, take refuge in me and I will carry you. That's the book. And it's, I mean, a great deal of it in it, a Christian will recognize and go, yeah. God climbing into the driver's seat, do the right thing and release the outcome. Love above every other discipline. Come to me, I'll carry you. That all sounds great. But did you know Himmler and Hitler took the Gita and it was part of their toxic stew. It's what they did in the thirties and it's what's happening to us now. They kept the battlefield. They kept the cast and the duty. They kept do your work and don't flinch at the consequences. And then they cut the last chapter of the God with a face

10:20who asks you for, you know, his heart or for your heart. What's left is a soldier who will do anything and feel nothing. Okay? That's how, that's what the Nuremberg trials were all about. What the Germans did is they started taking religions and they boiled them down and they said, this, we all agree on the same thing. Just do your duty, do your duty. Let God sort this out, okay? And so that's how you had people say, I was just doing my duty, I was just doing my soldier, I'm just doing what I was told. Okay, this is the same operation every time. You keep the architecture, but you throw out the God that has a name. So here's your translation key. Learn these for and you'll hear it coming. They'll say, the old doctrinal fights are a luxury we can't afford. What that means is the specific claims are negotiable. Well, I'm not gonna negotiate my theology

11:23and I don't think you should negotiate yours. We should listen to each other, we should debate back and forth. It should be respectful. And if you say something that changes my mind great, but I don't want you to merge my stuff into yours or your stuff into mine, no. There are specific claims that are faith, the general ones, okay? But there are, you know, that there's a higher power, be decent honor, you know, some things are sacred. Those aren't things anybody wants to cross the lines on. But there are specific things that can't be changed. They'll say underneath we all worship the same God. What that means is none of us worships anything in particular. This isn't a bigger God, it's an average. And the average of everything is nothing. Well, we're at war, so unity comes first. What does that mean? Your conscience is now a logistics problem. And every collectivist system ever built ran exactly on that sentence.

12:26They'll say the individual is a modern invention that broke the world. That's the real tell, because a God who deals with persons is the only reason you have any standing to say no to government or anything else. Abraham argued with God over Sodom and the number moved. Moses argued at the bush, it's a burning bush talking to you and you're arguing? Job demanded an answer and God won. You cannot argue with primordial tradition. There's got to be somebody there to heal, to hear the appeal. He deals with us one-on-one. That's why they need the God with a face, the one that listens to you, the one that responds to you, the one that heals you, the one that saves you. That's why they need that God gone. They need the collective God that isn't really anything.

13:26It's kind of like, well, this is what society says God is. And there's all these feel good things. Those can be perverted and twisted so fast, nowhere in the gospel of anyone that I've ever read does Jesus say, and by the way, we're all the same. All the gods are the same. I've never seen Paul go to Greece and say, you know, all these gods, they're all the same. As my God, they're just as powerful. No, he says, I see your gods. I see your gods. You're very religious. And it's great that you're very religious, but you have a temple to an unnamed God. That's the God I know, and that's the God that matters. That's the God over all of these other gods. It's the unnamed God. He didn't say, hey, let's merge these two together. He says, you're very religious. You get that you have to worship God, but here's the God you don't know that I know.

14:27Let me tell you about that God. Not hey, we're all in this together, and let's just merge everything. I'd like to just put a name on the unnamed God, and you can worship all your other ones. And this one too, no. Be careful because people are going to make a very warm offer to you. There are going to be many false prophets. And I pray I never, ever, fall anywhere close to that, but you should check everything that I say. I do not ask you to believe me. I do not ask you. I ask you to do your own homework. I'm telling you, don't listen to me or anybody like me. Listen to God. Get close to God because you are going to need Him on what is coming. You can see it in our society. And I'm sorry if more people are not saying this, shame on them. Have you noticed the increase of evil?

15:31Have you noticed the increase in people saying, no, that's perfectly fine. That's good. That's right. When you know it's bad, it's been bad your entire life. And I'm not talking about political policies. I'm talking about basic fundamentals. When a society is embracing or tolerating people and saying, well, they have a right to be heard. And they should come into our political system and they are openly saying, I have to destroy the family because it's a colonial construct. No, that's bad. That's bad. And you must take a stand against it. Truth is under attack in our culture. People are embracing lies about gender. They're rejecting the sanctity of every human life and the government is even punishing people for saying what's true and right. Or worse, the woke mob is doxing them and slandering them with no due process. Just an angry mob making their lives miserable or worse,

16:34putting families in real danger. But the biblical principles on which our country was founded still matter. Real patriots and Christians are beginning to stand up. They're showing real courage without a safety net of a big bank account. They're bolstered only by the truths that are self-evident. But these people must be defended. Alliance defending freedoms on the front lines of this fight and they're standing in court rooms across the country upholding truth and you're right to speak it. Your gift to ADF will be matched by a special grant while the funds last. Visit joinadf.com slashback or text back to 83-848. Visit joinadf.com slashback or text back to 83-848. Now back to the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenback program. Jonathan Khan is with us and he has written a new, I would call it a faction novel. It's not just facts. It's also wrapped in fiction. It's my favorite kind of book that you learn stuff

17:35that is true, but it's wrapped in a great story. It's called the altar of, is it Paramon? Par-Paragman? How do you say it? Oh, Paramon. Paramon, the altar of Paramon. Which I've learned a lot about. I had heard stuff about it and when doing research on the religious views or the occult views of Hitler and I know this played a role in a lot of the architecture, et cetera, et cetera. But you explain this in a way that is absolutely fascinating. Will you tell the story? Yeah, and this is, and this is glad I, it's a real follow-up because what happened with that plane was this was in it, the altar of Paramon. So this is what we're dealing with, the realms of the unseen that are affecting everything. It's a colossal mystery. I always do, I was going to write it. I didn't know I was going to write it,

18:35reveal it in like a thriller kind of thing like that. But there's so many mysteries I thought it's a better way to do it to reach people who don't know. You don't know. And so it's a mystery that literally has altered world history, not just once, over and over again. It is an ancient object that was saying it lies been on everything from the rise of Hitler, the world wars, the rise of Marxism, communism, the Cold War, the age of nuclear destruction, new world order, even linked to the internet, even an American leader, not Trump, and end time prophecy. So this is something that has literally affected everyone who's watching, everyone is actually affected your life already. And it begins in the book of Isaiah, where there's a famous thing where Isaiah quotes Satan or Lucifer, as Isaiah 14, and says, I will exalt my throne, my throne of Satan like above God. And then in Revelation two is where it says, you pergamon, where the throne of Satan is.

19:37So I mean, number one for the Bible to identify a place as the throne of Satan on earth is pretty big. And there is an object, I just came back from there, Glenn, I've never been there before, and it wasn't planned this way, but I just was there in pergamon. And the high place has a particular object, which was the central object called the All the Great altar. It was an altar of the gods, altar of Zeus, the king of the gods, and altar, and basically altar of Satan, or throne of Satan. So this is a pagan center place. But when the gospel comes to the world, it comes into the Roman world, they abandon the gods, they abandon the altars, and the altar of pergamon goes into the dust, goes into ruins. And so, so, hang on a second. Where is pergamon? Where is that in the world? Pergamon is an Asia minor at the time that these things are going to happen. It was the Ottoman Empire, and today it is Turkey. The east, the coast of Turkey, yeah. One of the seven churches of Revelation. And the thing is that, so it's buried there for the ages.

20:39And again, some of this, what I'm writing is this, this is why it sounds like a movie or sounds like any other Jones. This is a throne of Satan in the dust. What would happen if it was uncovered, if it was brought back into the world? Well, it was, and when it was, things started happening, changing in the world to this day. It is fascinating. I don't even know. I mean, chapter 56, and you're now into the Soviet Union era. But you talk about when it was found, and the things that happened that year, and how that, and we're still feeling the effects of that year today. It's what started this whole, whole ball rolling. Yes. So explain, how did they find it? Where did it go? And then how did it end up in Hitler's hands? Yeah, yeah. This is amazing. This is 1871, and a guy comes from across from, from basically Europe, comes there, and this is totally right.

21:39That year produces, you know, when they get, that's when they, they're going to get the altar, or they're going to find it, from this is going to become World War I. You see the roots of it, World War II, and of course, everything we're going to see in Germany. So what happens is this guy comes, his name is Karl Humann. He doesn't know what it is. He sees rooms. He takes two pieces of it, sends it back to his homeland. Now, and from that moment, that land is going to be joined to the Older Orthron of Satan. And so it's going to start changing. So what's the land? Well, the land is Germany. And so, in fact, Germany, people don't realize this. They think Germany's been around like England. And if that's Germany, came into the world, in 1871 as a nation. Same time that the, the all the throne of Satan comes in the world, and it begins this joining, and you have that, that here, you have the beginning of German nationalism, German militarism official, which is going to change the world. And at the same time, there's another, another German guy named Heinrich Sleeman. And he's looking for Troy. He's looking for the lost city of Troy. He ends up in the same region as the Older Orthron of Perth,

22:41in that same coast. And he discovers all these ancient signs. And these ancient signs are about almost 2,000 of them. And they go, they come into the world, make a big sensation, Germany loves it. It's the swastika. So in the same year, you've got the throne of Satan. You've got Germany coming to the world, throne of Satan, and you have the swastika coming to the world. So now, they don't know right now. They don't know which the Older Perth, and they don't know which the throne of Satan. So what happens is in the next years, they realize it's the Older Perth, they're not reading their Bible, so they're not seeing the evil part of this. And so they have a team, German, including Carl Pum, on the guy who discovered it, and they're digging it up. They start unearthing it in 1878. So they're, and it's massive. I mean, this is a massive object. And they put it into, it's like, this is again, in the end of Jones, they put it into crates, put it on a shit, they put it on a chips, they go across the ocean, ends up in Europe, they end up sending it to Berlin. So now you're moving, and this took a few years, but it starts in 1878.

23:42And so you're moving the place where Satan dwells or throne of Satan to Berlin. I mean, total. I mean, so it's in massive pieces and all that. And the same moment, you know, the Bible says, and when you speak about this, and one of the things I greatly appreciate about, you stand for this very strongly, we have a revival of anti-Semitism now. Anti-Israel anti-Semitism. Well, the word anti-Semitism is actually a new word. I mean, it's an old hatred, but it's a new form. It's actually a movement and ideology. Where was it born? It was born in Germany when at the moment that the altar comes to Germany, savior, anti-Semitism, the word comes in, the movement comes in. And so Germany starts transforming. This starts spreading through Germany. And also there's an occult revival. When the altar comes occult, so if you don't realize this before Hitler came, there was occult mixing with anti-Semitism and it would produce an explosion. You have to read, you love this book, and it's very scholarly. It's not an easy book to get through,

24:43but it's called Hitler's Monsters. And it explains, you've read it, it's great, isn't it? Yes. Yes. It shows this toxic stew that, and I think we're repeating it right now. We just don't know we're doing it. I don't think they knew what they were doing at the time, but it's this merging of all of these legends and myths and witchcraft and all of this stuff into this stew. And that's what eventually gives us the ideology of the Nazis. Yeah, yeah, you know people are really, I mean, the Nazis work well, there's an occult thing here. And the thing is, this is the other thing, which I think, I mean, you're on that because what happened with Germany, Germany, you know, this is where the reformation came from, but it was turning away from God. They were actually attacking the Bible. They introduced higher criticism, which is kind of trying to say, attack the Word of God. And this is the place, once you drive God out, you're opening the door, and we're seeing this in America,

25:45because I believe it's absolutely right, there's an explosion of the occult and revival of anti-Semitism. So it absolutely relates to us now. And the thing that they do, when it ends up, the pieces end up in Berlin and they say, okay, we're gonna rebuild it. You know, and they're not picking thrown of Satan. They don't know, but they're thinking ultra-apurgement. Well, they start rebuilding it in the 1880s. They finish it in 1889. Now, so now for the first time, since ancient times, this piecing to piece together, the thrown of Satan is appearing. Same time, something else appears in the world, a baby, and they give him, he's born, and he's given the name out of Hitler. Hitler comes into the world with a thrown of Satan. His whole life is gonna be linked to the throne of Satan. His life, his rise, everything to this altar. And you know, you spoke about like the occult. You know, there's another German guy, goes to Turkey, same land of the altar, and he brings back this occult acknowledge

26:45that he wants to rebuild the Germany. And he starts an organization, a society called the fool society. A cult, a cult, totally a cult. The occult, this fool society gives birth to a little party called, that's gonna be called the Nazi party. And then one day, that child who's born with the throne of Satan is gonna enter their meeting, and the rest is gonna be history. Where is this now? The ultra-apurgement is still in the world. Okay, gotta say something. I didn't know, Glenn, I mean, before I do a book, I'm always praying, okay, what's the book, what's the next book? And I'm writing it, I had no idea that the ultra-apurgement in, I knew it was in Berlin, but the thing is, the thing is they've been, it's been hidden for about 10 years, and they are going to release it to the world, it's coming here, release it to the world. And when that happens, as we'll see, when that happens, good, you know, it's not good things that happen. Good luck, Germany, good luck. Not like they need any help, and good luck for the rest of the world. But yeah, I had just read that,

27:48and I didn't know if that was true or not. I had read it in passing, that it was going back on display, but it's enormous, how big is it? It is about, you know, it's in some ways that, this is like an anti-archer the covenant. It's like an anti-that whole story. It is about a hundred feet wide and a hundred feet deep. So it is massive. So that's why it came in pieces. I mean, thousands of pieces, and that's why it was massive to put it back together again. And so they've been kind of storing it and kind of redoing whatever they're kind of repairing and renewing it, and they're going to have this big opening. I think it's June of 2027. And the thing is that this goes with it because when they released it, the other time, that's when Hitler rose to power. In fact, in fact, that museum, it's called a Pergamon Museum, they start building, they start rising in the 1920s originally, as it's rising, Hitler's rising. And then in 1928, the Nazis only got,

28:48they got 2% of the vote. They looked like they're the way out. But then two years later, the altar was released in the autumn of 1930. And in the autumn of 1930, there's another election and Hitler, the Nazis become from 2% because of the number two party in Germany, then number one, and then they take over. And so now Hitler is literally, people don't realize it is ruling if from Berlin, where the throne of Satan is. I mean, the third right, the throne of Satan, I mean, you can't make this up. It's kind of like obvious, but it was all there. So then after the war, the altar does not fall into the hands of the Allies. It falls into the hands of Stalin. So the next, yeah, if I can, glad, just one thing leading up to it, if you're okay with it, and I'll go ahead and say, yes, it's gonna fall into hands of another, but one, two things about Hitler, when he comes to power, he says, I wanna, I wanna platform, I wanna speak to the colossal platform to speak to the masses. So they build him a platform, Albert Spear, his architect.

29:49And he actually made it, what's Hitler standing on when he's going crazy was a massive reproduction of the altar of Purgamid. It's the, he's literally standing on the, like a mega throne of Satan, when you're talking, when he's doing that. And those are those big Nuremberg rallies that you've seen forever, that's a inspired by the altar of Satan. Yeah, that's so funny. I know when he's crazy, and the thing is there, and the guy Albert Spear who writes his book about, he doesn't say, he's, they're not thinking thrown, most of these guys are not reading a Bible. Right, right, right. It's so, but they are thinking throw up altar Purgamid. So he, he emits it. What he built for Hitler was, was from the altar of Purgamid, and Hitler, when he's invoking destruction on the world, he's standing on the throne of Satan. And the other thing about the altar is that it's the altar of birch offerings. And so in Greek, the ones who built the altar, they didn't say altar of birch offerings. They called it the, in Greek, the word for burnt is calstos,

30:51and the word for completely burnt is holos, and there you get the word holocaust. It is the altar of the holocaust. And from, with a moment, it arrives on German soil. That was the, that was the Satanic land. You know, holocaust actually, it doesn't mean a catastrophe. It means a sacrifice. And it's taken from, and actually in the Bible, in the Greek translation of the Bible, you have the word holocaust, it's speaking of a holy thing that sacrifice. Well, the enemy is real, and he's like, he's, he's, he's totally like, perverting it. So now the sacrifice, actually saved Jews from the saves were coming up to the holy days now, like young people. Now it's going toward their destruction. And so, and so, you know, and even Heinrich Himmler, and you were, you're, who was over the holocaust, was totally into the occult. And the SS were like the priest of it. And the final, the final sacrifice was Hitler himself, because you know, when the devil threw you, he destroys you. So he kills himself, and he orders that his bird, his body be burnt. This is a holocaust, you know, so the last one was him,

31:52and that goes to where, where he worked. So Hitler's gone. The altar has no owner. You're listening to the best of the Glenback podcast. Here more of this interview and others with the full show podcast, available wherever you get podcasts. Chris Salcedo is a good friend of the program, a good friend of the blaze, and now a part of Torch audio radio, which will be officially launched very soon. Chris is going to be the morning host, and it will go, it will precede me. But he's also the author of the rise of, the rise of the Liberty Loving Latino, a new American revolution. And I want to talk to you about that as well. Chris, today you're on your way. I'm on my way a little while as well to go see the Republican first ever, midterm RNC convention. There's really nobody I want to hear from, you know? I want to hear from Donald Trump, because I think he's going to, as you said before,

32:52he's going to drag these guys kicking and screaming over the line, because a lot of, I don't think a lot of them even want to win. Yeah. I think if you look at the conduct of the United States Senate, they are working to lose. They are. They're a public that they are. How are they thinking? Well, it's unaparty mentality. Us again, they understand what they're up against. This is not even 2008, when I thought it was concern. We are now with people who are Islamists, and Marxist who are openly wanting to destroy the America we all grew openly. Isn't that the danger of John Thun's gambit here? It is. He wants to hand it back over to the Democrats. So the Democrats. So they can get back to corruption as usual up there. You know, the unaparty everybody's making money except for the American people. And so he's going to hand it over to what he thinks are Democrats, but socialists and communists are winning these primary elections. They're winning in Democrat precincts.

33:54The red green alliance is very real, and that's the danger. And they're here in Texas. I haven't seen Ken Paxton commercial. Have you? They're starting to come out now. They're starting to come out. Yes, I could tell you why. I could tell you exactly why, because the guy that these Republicans who were so desirous to lose spent $100 million to defeat the conservative in the primary. They were in it for this guy, but then he had John Corning who's done nothing, but stab conservatives and the people of Texas in the back. I mean, you've been in Texas long enough to see. No, no, no. The corner was waste. Absolute, absolute insanity. I can handle a corner in Maine. Okay, that's the best you could do. In Texas? I know, I know. So Paxton hits the ground running with $0 because he spent all of his money in this primary, and I've been asking the question, I still can't get a dang answer to it. So let me get this straight. You were Republicans in the National Republican Senate Toriel Committee. You were willing to spend $100 million plus to defeat the conservative in Texas in the primary.

34:56How much are you willing to spend to defeat the Marxist in the communist, this guy by the name of James Telleriko. And I can't get an answer for many, buddy, but their answer is the non answer. Sometimes a non answer is the answer. Ten million coming from a MAGA Inc. The president has already committed that to Ken Paxton. I'm hearing 15 coming in from Elon Musk. So already there on with 25 million combating James Telleriko's estimated 30 million from California. He was out California, he was out California raising money again. Well, he's going to be he's there now. Yeah. My understanding he's there now. R&C is going on back home in Texas. Right. He's out in the people's Republic of California getting money out there. But that's the reason why Paxton didn't, he didn't have the money because he's spent it all trying to win the primary, which by the way, he won handily by 27 points against the fake Republican John Cornyn. How about the governor? How about the governor? I mean, I'm hearing Republicans in Texas saying I'm not going to vote for the governor.

35:57What? You know, Abbott, and you're like, wait, wait, what? And give the state to the the Democrat Marxists, the radicals. Are you out of your mind? On Torch Audio, I've been telling the audience and before I even joined Torch Audio, I was, I've been telling the audience, look, this is what you've got to do. You've got a vote for a Republican. You've got a vote Republican. Well, what about the rhinos? I get it. I understand that. You are, you are going to, even if we're stuck in neutral, it's better than going communist. It's better than going socialist. Then we at least have the opportunity in two years to handle things in the primary, the way we handled Cassidy, the way we handled Tillis, the way we handled Cornyn. But you're not going to have that opportunity if socialists are running the day. So you've got to play, this is, this is where we are. I don't, I don't like being here, but we're playing defense. And this, we've got to play defense. We've got to stay in the game so that the conservative movement and Americans can do something about it. What do you say to people that say, I don't think Donald Trump hears us anymore, he says,

36:57it's affordable and it's not so bad. And it is bad. I mean, you filled up your car. I filled a car. You know, it gases up another seven cents a gallon today. That's not good. No, no, it's not good. But I'm also, look, maybe it's because I pay attention and you and I pay attention, but I remember $5, a gallon average during the last regime during the Beijing Biden President Auto Pen regime, a record setting, it's still not as bad as it was. And back then, were we stopping the terrorist regime of Iran from ever getting a nuclear weapon doing something in the affirmative that will, that will, for the first time, an American Congress and an American president will not have to have in our defense calculus, a nuclear armed Iran for the first time in 50 years. Even if, even if this war drags on for another 12 months, which God forbid, let's say drags on for another 12 months, then the United States can back out because the United

37:59States will have finished pipelines. Pipelines, exactly. And people don't understand that we're there buying time trying to get a Congress elected that will stop this war and Trump is buying time saying, just hold on because even if I can't get these nut jobs out of there, the pipelines, they cut off all of their power, their building pipelines that will begin in 20 20, I mean, begin functioning at the end of 2027. I was listening to Katie McFarlane. She says about 40 to 60 percent of oil is already flowing through some of these pipelines. It's crazy. It's amazing. And again, that's what the president, that's what I want to hear from the president. It's what I want to hear from the Republicans will be speaking at the RNC. What do you hope that they will say, what is the message you think would connect with the American people that they could possibly say? Well, that we, that you, we know and understand what's going on. We see the increased costs. We see what's going on in the United States with, with the bottom line. We ran an affordability, but look, here are the stakes.

38:59I think when the American people know the stakes and that there's a light at the end of the tunnel, which of course, after 21 years of Afghanistan, the, the, the war that Bush got us into for no, no, no, explicable reason. If we could see the light at the end of the tunnel, we find out what the stakes are. I don't think you would find many well, well-meaning Americans who would say, you know what? I, I want to save money on the gas and I'm willing to accept nuclear weapons and a random terrorist regime to have, no, no, no, Americans will say, look, yeah, I get the stakes. I think it would be, I have to understand it. Yes. I'm a mistake would be not addressing it. And I think that's the, the President Trump can, can drive home that message. He's uniquely qualified to do that. We are, as a nation, we are a notorious for losing the peace. Yes. We'll fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, and then we lose the peace. And I think for the first time in a two year period, remember America, what life was

40:01like two years ago? What you thought about what was going to happen if we lose this election? What did you think was going to happen if we lost that election two years ago? And now so many Republicans are so confident, even though nothing's been codified, they were like, yeah, but I've got, we've got other problems. Do you know the, the gates I held that he has closed and thrown almost literal demons over to the other side of the fence and say, stay back. He's holding that back almost all by himself. And we're about to lose the peace. We're about, if we don't wake up and go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. We've made so much progress. We just need to keep fighting for this term and then into the presidential term. You know, Donald Trump told me, I can't solve this in two years. No, go back. I can't, I can't solve it in four years. He said, we need eight to 12 years.

41:02He said, you give people with my philosophy 12 years, we will completely change, this is before he was elected, we'll completely change it. We'll stomp this out. He said, but I can't do it in two, can't do it in four. It'll come raging back. He said, we have to have at least eight. And I'm not sure we get there. I don't know. I, it all depends on how the messaging battle, I can't tell you how many people I've heard of this from. I can suck at messaging. Horrible. And they do. Horrible. Horrible. And because right now you've got half the Republican Party get war with conservatives. I mean, I've got in the, in the home state of Texas, yours and my, our home state, we've got John Corning in there blasting the, the conservative nominee for Senate showing up and saying, yeah, he's this, he's lazy, totally trash talking, working for the socialists. In other words, then you got Carl Rove showing up on killmeads program and doing the same thing. You've, so you've got people who are called so-called Republicans who are trying to take out a conservative, they seem to think that we in the conservative movement are more

42:07of a threat than these communists and these socialists. I know it's amazing. And the, and the Democrats, they, they, they, they won't tolerate moderate Democrats. You know, if you're not all in on Marxism, right? And yet they'll still the moderate, maybe the two or three Democrats in Washington that are like, hey, I'm warning these guys, they will still in the end come together with the Marxists. I'm so glad you said it. I was just noting that the other day, all these Democrats are, oh, we, we don't like Hassan Piker. We don't like all of the, this communism socialism. Oh, yeah, what are you going to do? Are you going to pull a John Corning and go out and campaign against those, those Democrats? No, no, no, no, no, no, are you going to raise money? Are you going to, are you going to actually do what Lisa Mrakowski did and vote for a Republican vote for the opposite party? And Lisa Mrakowski, big time Democrat supporter as a Republican. And they, these are the kinds of Republicans we must have in the Congress. It's like, so, and you said it right.

43:08President Trump is universally by himself. It's the America first coalition, the new divide in this country, the political divide, the America first coalition versus the America last crowd. And there are members of both parties on both sides. You have, I've got a couple minutes. You, didn't you have the speaker of the House on today? I had Jim Jordan on today. Oh, Jim Jordan. And what did Jim Jordan say? Well, we, we talked about the RNC, the message he wants to see, the message he wants to put out there. And I think as long as they draw this contrast, like you said, just think about what these people were doing to you about two years ago. And I have a hard time with that message because, and I think at the same time, I think of all the things that you haven't done in the last two years. It's the Senate. Do you think that the, the least productive Senate in my lifetime? And it's true. It is the least productive Senate because they're, they're doing the Democrats bidding, John Thunes and this is how we started the conversation. Do you think it's really hurting your chance to maintain control of the House? And of course, he dodged. You would expect him not to, not to say that, but he's, he did go so far as to say that

44:13the Save America Act is, is a no brainer. And why the Senate, is the Senate Republicans are devoted to Democrats more than their own voters on this, is inexplicable to him. You, I don't have time to get into it, but you ask a great question on the debt and maybe I'll have to have you come back and play some of that or a, a, a, a, a Senate to us so I can play it on the air. Sure. One last question. You know, the rise of Liberty Loving Latino is, is your book. And we're losing Latinos. We had Latinos. Are we losing them now in, in this race and the next? It goes back to the messaging port part. If the, the reason why Liberty Loving Latinos crossed over by the millions to vote for Trump, not for Republicans to vote for Trump and the, the America first agenda that, and they did it in record numbers. There's no Republican ever got the, the kind of Latino support that, that President Trump got. The reason why is he showed a contrast. And the reason why I believe the Republicans are in danger of losing right now is they have not shown the contrast that we have a choice.

45:15Because whenever you elect a Republican majority, it still seems left wing priorities go untouched or uncorrected at this point. And whenever there's a Democrat in charge, it's, it's Katie by the door, you know, it's communism and socialism all the way. Chris, always good to see you. Thank you so much. Thanks for the invite. You bet Chris Salasado. Um, he is the host of the Chris Salas, Salasado show and you will be hearing more about him and, uh, more of him on, uh, torch audio, which is launching soon. I know. I don't even know how people are listening to it, but I know people are listening to it now. Um, anyway, Chris, thank you so much. I appreciate it. No, no, no, no.