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3:03Well, shoot as prepared as we could possibly be. I mean, we got three more days of practice. We certainly need every one of them. But we've had a really good fall camp, made a ton of progress. And eager to play somebody else. We've been beating ourselves for eight months now. And so it's going to be good to find out what we got on Saturday. But the expectation level, now Utah wanted you to win. Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different with the expectations from the fans of what they're hoping for? No, I don't believe so. I mean, you know, in both places you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever you can accomplish beyond that. But, you know, I've said it before. It doesn't matter what level of your coach in that high school college NFL. I mean, wherever you are, you're all in. And if you're all in and you're in, you've given it everything you got, then you have the same burning desire to win as anybody else. Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments about Ohio State?

4:07Why didn't feel the need to clarify? They were asked about it. People asked about it and I, you know, just answer questions. Okay. It's what I do. Okay. So from the first comments to the second, like people want, when I hear you say you hate Ohio State, right? I guess that's what they want. I don't know. I want to beat him as bad as anybody worse, probably worse. And that's how about this? I guess we can hate him on one day a year. How about that? Yeah, but, you know, I said, and I grew up in Ohio, I said, give him a break. You know, you can know about this rivalry. It'd be like if somebody went and said, oh, you're at Utah, you got to hate me why you. And you just came there. You're like, all right, let me live this first a little bit here. So I don't know if there's a tutorial on how to strongly dislike a team. Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically. And it's tough to manufacture that. But just the competitive nature of the game, I mean, it's the rivalry game in the premier rivalry game in the country.

5:13And everybody knows that. I'm fully aware of that. And by no means, I'm trying to downplay the game of the game is huge. It's a huge game year in and year out. All you got to do is win. You can hate them. And if you don't beat them, nobody's going to give you credit for, well, at least you hate them, coach. Exactly. Good point. Yeah. Help me understand where you stood with NFL players coming back to college. I know that, you know, all the conferences are kind of in sync on this. But did you ever think we'd get to a situation like this where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts on a uniform or two, and then comes back? Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but, but any, you know, in this day and age, anything that happens to cause football shit and comes to surprise me, we're so all over the place with everything that, that, I guess anything's possible. Okay. How did we get here with just no, there's no singular voice.

6:13There's no lifeguard on duty in the deep end here, coach. Right. Exactly. And that's, that's the problem. I mean, you look at the NFL, which is in my opinion, the best run sports organization in the world. And you've got a, you know, a great structure and a commissioner that lays down the law. And if you cross that line, you've faced severe penalties. And I think that's what we got to get to in college football. We've got to get to some sort of NFL minor league model. I've said that many, many times. Yeah. But why wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to ever do it? Kyle Wittingham, Michigan head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday, Western Michigan, next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor. There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and your staff of mishandling injuries. I'd want to give you a chance to address this. Never in my career have I ever tried to sway influence whatever the word is,

7:17our medical staff, you know, whatever I've been. You know, we listen to the medical staff. If they say a player is available, we go with that. And if they say he's not available, we go with that. So I'm not sure where this came from or what the, you know, what the, you know, just how whatever materialized, but never in my career have we ever crossed the line of trying to override a medical decision by our medical staff. Could you have stated Utah if you wanted to? I believe that's probably what have been in the cards. I think I think if it really pushed came to shove and you know, had two years left on my contract and, and, but, you know, I've always been the type of guy. Don't worry how you're welcome. And I felt like that that was starting to happen and, and, you know, overstaying your, you're welcome to something that I had made a, you know, a conscious decision not to do several years ago when I, you know, and, you know, you just don't want to stay somewhere too long.

8:17Maybe I did stay too long as it was. I don't know, but, but I'm grateful for the situation I'm in now. And, uh, couldn't be, uh, you know, happier with what's going on here. Michigan felt like mutual, mutual parting. Is that fair to say? Uh, it's probably on some people's part. There. Yeah. I'd say, you know, depending who you talk to, how good, do you know how good your team can be right now? That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in the country knows how good their team can be, because you've been, you know, you've been playing against each other. And if you struggle moving the balls because you're lousy on offense, or it's because your defense is outstanding and vice versa. And so you never really get a good gauge completely until you line up and play somebody. But you can certainly see talent and positions that really are, you know, special. And so I think you got to, you got some more of an idea, but you don't know for sure until you line up and get to get someone to play against and get a bird. And then you can get a barometer to measure yourself against which the coolest thing in your

9:17office. Cool thing in my office. Probably pictures of my grandkids are around here somewhere, but somebody gave me this like a chalk. You know, there's a really cool. I am that lights up that's got like lightning bolts throughout it and really cool. It's pretty, you know, good size and you can change the colors and all that stuff. So anything mean you want to know. I do have some great stuff in here. I think the one, do I have a Michigan helmet in here? I got all kinds of helmets in here. Do I, we don't have one. I don't think I have it. Let's get you one. We'll get you one. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Just want to let you go. Coach would just keep each other company. Yeah, okay. Yes. There you go. Dan, there you go. Yep. I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here. Oh, that's good news. That's good news. Yeah. I like to hear that. And I think this came from who was the wide receiver who played for the Giants who played

10:20on the Tumor? Yes. I think a money Tumor gave me his helmet here, coach. That's a keeper. Yeah, it's autographed here. That's the old school bike helmet. Yeah. Yeah. And then you got the stickers here. Uh-huh. We still have that tradition. What did the stickers mean if I... All different things. You know, somehow the area code of the player or he's from big wins, big plays in games. I mean, it's got all kinds of different things on those stickers. What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker? Like little things like that? That used to matter back in our day. Well, it still matters. Okay. That matters to me anyways. And graduating players is number one on the list and winning games is number two. And that's how it always functioned. Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan Day before we say goodbye? Say anything mean? No. We'll see him... We'll see him in the last game of the season about that. Wow, that's Bulletin Board material right there. Don't... Don't bait me. Yeah.

11:20Good to talk to you. Good luck this week. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. That's Kyle Wittingham. You're to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio app. Hey, it's Kovino and Rit from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7 p.m. Eastern to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yep, that's right. You can now watch Kovino Enrich live on YouTube every day. All you have to do is search Kovino Enrich FSR on YouTube. Again, go to YouTube, search Kovino Enrich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon, and comment away. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for 9 months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the survivor files.

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15:39No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend, Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own. And if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Michael and Perry Oli. I want to tell you about my new podcast, Underground Zero. It's about what happened in the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York. We're looking at the opportunity of a lifetime for us and the other families. While the world was mourning, five powerful New York families saw an opportunity. The debris supposed to go to the city on salvage and some of it will. They would go on to make millions of dollars. What's in the tunnels? A barge of ingots. It could be worth half a billion.

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17:41Oh my God. What, Marvin? Sorry, DP. Chad GP T say in 2009, you two reinforced their status as the biggest rock band in the world through their launch of their massive YouTube 360 tour. Thank you. Thank you. Was that before or after they downloaded that terrible? Hall of Famer Netflix lead game analyst. I don't know if you want any part of this. We're fired up here, Luke. We're I'm ready to play a game, you know, getting kind of feisty in here. Do you miss hitting people? I miss being a locker room. I don't miss hitting people. I think I think being on the game on the food and four games past W. She's guys run by and you decide you don't want anything to do with. With with those guys that running backs the offensive linemen, even the receivers feel like they've gotten bigger and bigger. I tell people if you want to see a football game, if you can watch it from the sidelines, you'll have a whole different appreciation for what that game sounds like and how fast it is. I don't know if you had that feeling you're welcome to the NFL moment.

18:44What was that like? What you know what's interesting you talk about watching it from the field you don't ever listen to the game or hear the game or feel the game when you're playing. During 2020 that was my first year when I was done playing I worked with the Panthers in the front offices and I was on the field. For some of those games and there was no one in the stands to start the year. So you could hear everything every hit every sound every time a guy puts his foot in the ground and makes a cut and you start to realize like how do I how do I play out here during this game for that long because guys are it's it's fast it's physical. And I'm glad that that I was on the sideline at that point. Do you have that welcome to the NFL moment? It was it was Michael Robinson so my my rookie year replayed Seattle at home it was my first game plan at inside backer and Russell Wilson escapes from the pocket I'm in zone coverage I drop.

19:44He starts running towards the line of scrimmage and I feel like I have a clean shot. I've got a great angle I'm running right at him. I think I'm going to make a big hit and at the last second he cuts to my left I turned my head and my Robinson number 26 is running. Who will speed at me and Russ Russ had kind of set me up I didn't see my Robinson and he smacked me in the first thing I remember is being on the ground and I remember looking up at him and he had a big smile on his face and it was it was early on I was probably I think that was probably three or four and. You realize the game happens a lot faster than it used to in college and when I see Mike Mike to this day there's so that little smirk that he got on the nose he knows that he got me pretty that young good if you didn't go to BC where were you going. You know what Stanford Stanford Duke in Virginia where the school was in addition to Boston College that I that I looked really hard at Stanford was probably.

20:44You know right up there that was that was Harbaugh and Andrew Luck and that whole crew and then coach cutcliffe at Duke I really I really liked him is a great man a great football coach but BC was always was always home for me but I think Stanford with Harbaugh and Duke with cutcliffe for two places that would have been good options for me but growing up you know in Cincinnati Ohio State recruit you. Not really you know I was when I was being recruited I was I was small I was skinny I went very big and quite frankly if I was recruiting people I've since NAD had probably recruited me if I was Ohio State either so really now I was a little I was a 200 pound linebacker that I that was taken biology class in chemistry class. I heard a lunch box around so I don't really really blame anybody for not recruiting me wait you had a lunch box. Oh yeah every day was was it a themed lunch box it was you know what I was fortunate that when I went to school I I have two brothers and my mom would wake up and make breakfast and make lunch lunch is for us every day and it was a very well balanced lunch box she did a great job so yes I don't know what I was doing.

22:05Yes I don't know if the lunch box itself was themed but what was inside of it was very much themed. All right so Luke and Netflix game day kicks off with the game down under in Melbourne it'll be shouldn't you be leaving for Australia now. Yeah we're leaving should we leave we leave us on Sunday so it's I've been trying to wrap my head around it. We leave on a Sunday and I think we get there on a Tuesday because they're they're ahead of us plus the time change in the flight it took me a second to kind of wrap my head around. How all that works but yeah we're leaving soon we leave on winter on Sunday of this week. Okay so that'll be coverage starting at 6 30 Eastern kickoff at 8 30 Eastern next week are you expecting Aaron Donald to be in Australia. That was certainly make it more exciting honestly I think it would be really cool if he played I think what I would I think about with this whole thing is.

23:06Running great a geolite is great you watch all the videos of him and him training looks phenomenal I think the one question that I ask myself is. What happens when people start leaning on you. I think that's probably the biggest thing if I were to go back and play after not playing for two years. How are you able to brace for impact how are you able to. I think for the game sake I would love for him to play I think it adds a tremendous amount of story lines and him and miles Garrett and how the rest of the defiance defense line benefits from him being in the game but. I think if you're the Rams you got to figure out what's the best long term approach for having him part of that team you know when to make a push in December January. How does Aaron Donald impact the linebackers on the Rams with him back. Alright good luck getting up to him you know I think if you're Nate Landman and. That that crew right there you're running clean to the football it's in it what's beyond it's it's Aaron Donald it's.

24:08It's miles Garrett Kobe Turner and then the one guy that that's going to benefit the most from this is Byron young you got a block those big and breaking fish you got a block block those. Those big guys up front before you get to the second level so if you're those Rams linebackers you're just sitting there smiling knowing that hey they got to block these monsters before they get up the odds. You sack Stafford before I didn't even get nearer. Nope not anywhere close to my my past Russian skills are very we're very minimal. How many sacks did you have in your career man I think I think I had 12. And two or three or four of them were cleaned at the football so that requires zero cash rush ability. I do. Who did you get that you go I can tell my grandkids man well in the Super Bowl. Sean McDermott called a great a great blitz and I got paid manning and that required again zero zero skill the biggest thing you have to do is you make sure you get them on the ground.

25:11I was clean right up the middle to paid manning and the hardest thing is to not miss them so that's my that be my most memorable. Quebec sack. You know we look at those teams that lose the Super Bowl and we used to label like you were a disappointment like the Buffalo bills went to four consecutive Super bowls I said why are we celebrating that you got to the Super Bowl. I know you guys got embarrassed but what's it like in that game that everybody's watching you and everybody's going to have some kind of opinion about you or your team after something like that. I think I think everybody's going to have a opinion regardless if win lose draw how the season went but you know you I don't think that that season when you look back on it and you get perspective and the further away you know that team gets from that game. I think we realize how special that year was how fun the OTAs were the off season training camp the journey through that season into the playoffs to play off games at home the energy in the city in the carolina's and had the opportunity to play in a Super Bowl.

26:26I think was was super special obviously you want to win that game and that's the ultimate goal playing football but I think the memories and the opportunities we had that season in the players that we put on that team that the front office did a great job is what made that season special I don't think it's defined by one game or you know the disappointment I'm not winning the Super Bowl I think for us it was more how special that team was how fun that team was how special that game. I think that's how special that group was together and I think when you look back on it that's that's a positive that really came from the you think cam Newton will be a hall of favor. I think he I think he should be just and I got to see it on a on a daily basis but I don't think for that stretch there that cam had I don't think there was a more dominant player. I think he's got on the field and cam and I think you know his ability to affect the game throwing and obviously running the ball short yardage goal line.

27:28In walking out for coin tosses for teams that we didn't play a whole lot and watching those guys walk out and look at cam it's like it's like they had no idea he was that big and it looked like he got ten times bigger when he when is in when is in his uniform because he had the rib pads in the shin pads in the in the hair in the wrist bands and he just got bigger and bigger as as game they approached because that following year didn't you open up with Denver in Denver. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember the Broncos beat the hell out of cam in that game like they were they were lining him up and pounding him and I just kept remember being on the field and seeing how big he was and I was in the game. He was in realizing what these defensive players were doing to him. That is they they pounded him that night and you know kept get back up but you know after a while those hits take their toll.

28:29Yeah, he's he's really sure that he was made of concrete that he was like a pillar out there you just hit him and hit him and he just keeps. He keeps getting back up but I think it's a testament to number one his toughness and number two is competitive drive and who he is as a person and a lot of stuff that cam did we kind of big of just can be in cam and then when you think about it you start to realize how special what he did for that team was. Calling a game now. It's one thing to watch when you're at home with your buddies but you know you're going to be there with Noah Eagle you got to get in and get out get in get out like you have a finite amount of time that you go I got 15 seconds here or I got 12 seconds here how do you work mentally of being an analyst. I think you start to just understand that hey I have a job and I have a team it knows knows your teammate and you start to realize that I have to do my job in a way that allows no to do his job so I think quick in and out concise get your point across make it digestible and understandable and then and then get out and allow Noah to do his job is all he's he's phenomenal he's so easy to work with he sets you upgrade and then it's my job but I'm not going to do it.

29:55I'm not going to do it again. It's my job like you said to get in get my point across get my point articulated and then allow Noah to set the play up and do what he does best as well so I think that's what makes it fun is a teamwork aspect of that booth OK but is this any different than what you did defensively where get in get out of the huddle or make your call then there's the play now regroup get in get out get ready for the next play. I sent to it in a sense yes. The procedure I think is a little bit different because in the game I think you're digesting I get a play call in my ear and then I've got to relay it to the guys in the field and then I like you said I got to break the huddle and turn around and I digest what's going on so you're kind of thinking all the way up to the snap as far as as a player versus I think in the booth you're it's more of reactionary and then hey based on what happened on the field what can I give the viewers to help educate them give them further

31:00context versus while you're playing it's like all right hey what do I like what do I like out of our menu on third and sixth what do I what did I watch during practice and during tape that allows me to have success maybe what do I need to tell the guy next me maybe Thomas is telling me something different so I think it's it's more of a living organism while you're while you're playing because there's a lot of other guys that you're working with versus in the booth I think it's you know it's my one of my first times doing is some so trying to figure it out a little bit as well but it's more of what I saw let me give somebody something quick that they can chew on get any get out and then let no it do his job as well. Yeah wait till like three years two years and you listen back to this and then you'll go oh my gosh because we all do it I went back to my like my early sports center days I'm going oh my God so bad but you know it's part of the evolution the progress the process of it so and you've got a great person to set you up the key is with play by play they can

32:06make or break you and you got no who learned from his dad he's going to put you in a position to succeed and you know that that'll help you instead of you scrambling to go out I got nine seconds here I can't say anything the Noah will be very good at being brief with his comments to give you you know that room for opportunity and so it'll it'll be fun for you at least I hope it will be and don't read social media okay yeah stay off I told JJ walked that I said dude don't don't be on he goes no I not I go okay goes I can take it I said all right well you're tougher than I can I don't want to know what social media is going to say they're never happy about anything Luke yeah I think you know you kind of learn it as a player you can always find whatever you want on social media if you think you're the greatest thing you can find somebody that says you're the greatest thing if you want to find somebody that says you stink if you look hard enough you can find that too if so it's one of those things whatever you want

33:08yeah social media to say you can find it and filtered and figured out so like you said I think I'm lucky to have Noah in there because he's so good and he has fun he's got a great personality and he's quick and I'm certainly looking forward to everything's a lot of fun good to talk to you again congratulations on the Hall of Fame Luke thank you appreciate it right Luke Kekeley Hall of Famer be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9 am Eastern 6 am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I heart radio app hey is Kavino and Riff from Fox Sports Radio now in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7 pm Eastern 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show yep that's right you can now watch Kavino Enrich live on YouTube every day all you got to do search Kavino Enrich Fsr on YouTube again go to YouTube search Kavino Enrich Fsr check us out on YouTube subscribe hit that thumbs up icon and comment away

34:15when I was 14 years old I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them I'm Elizabeth smart and these are the survivor files I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying shut up don't say anything every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable I knew if he woke up without a doubt he was going to hurt me I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming they are abducted stalked controlled and nearly silenced but these aren't stories about what's taken from them their stories about what it takes to make it out alive listen to the survivor files with the Elizabeth smart on the I heart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts

35:15on the new podcast solita we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle I choose option B I'm Julie Pinierro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita trading the pity for possibility every time I tried to be alone I kept meeting people and they were like you smiled at us not a lot of people smile around here it's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it it can be a time where you push your limits change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself so whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip I hope you listen to solita on the I heart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts

36:15if you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality welcome home this is pros society the weekly podcast that's part book club part group chat for thought daughters pop culture obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having I'm gonna have to look up this story from best selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments nothing is off the table it's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is the Trojan horse whether you're looking for literary deep dives smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much you're in the right place listen to pro society on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts see you between the pages that call was really pivotal for me

37:17hey it's Emily Tish Sussman and this season on sheep hivots the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like para Olympian Ali Truett I was like I'm on out from a shark attack there's no way in 11 months I'm making the very long text advocate Elizabeth smart I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference so I'm gonna keep going celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years no I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy and feminist legend glorious dynam all of us were trying to express women's real lives we need a meeting place of our own and if I can contribute to that I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose listen to sheep hivots on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hi I'm Michael and perioli I want to tell you about my new podcast underground zero

38:22it's about what happened in the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York we're looking at the opportunity of a lifetime for us and the other families while the world was mourning five powerful New York families saw an opportunity the debris supposed to go to the city on salvage and some of it will they would go on to make millions of dollars what's in the tunnels called bars of ingots it would be worth half a billion and they would have made more if it hadn't been for one courageous cop no dad don't you gonna need all of us I'll call you when I can Frank be careful underground zero starring Steve Sharipa, Rayabruzzo and me Michael and perioli would you be willing to see your family go to pieces? some ways it already has listen to underground zero on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast he is the big 10 commissioner Tony Petiti joining us on the program what kind of year do you think you had if you were going to sum it up Tony?

39:24the year ahead I would say we feel well if you're asking me what the year was this past year that's an interesting question I mean on the field and it couldn't have been any better you know winning the football championship and both basketball balls and a total of 13 national championships across everything we play I think it was probably the most successful year in the history of the big 10 on the field I think for our student athletes it was there was nothing better you know obviously college athletics deals with all kinds of challenges every day around you know legal cases and you know this seems to be a new idea new challenge you know coming every time you come to the office so that part has been difficult but I would say the main thing is we're really fortunate in terms of attendance and viewership those things are still just remarkably good for us and so that's the core of what we do so thank God that's still going as good as you could possibly hope why do you feel so strongly about the rostered NFL players not being able to return to college football?

40:24there's a bunch of reasons I think look this is supposed to be this system was always about you come you play your time here and then you kind of give way to the next group coming up you know I think people sort of forget that when kids come back there are kids that have been practicing since the spring they're trying to win jobs trying to be starters trying to be the first backup and then that goes on all summer they're working really hard I think no we don't want we sort of forget about that piece of this and we talk about kids coming back so the system is built on that kind of movement it was meant to be a place where you have your time you compete if you can go on and play professionally in any of the sports we play that's great that's part of the journey but you know you go on to do other amazing things in your life with all the benefits you've had are being in the big 10 so I think that's the core of what this is supposed to be I think we shouldn't be disrupting that but Tony I've been saying for a while now a couple of years that you have professional players playing in Europe basketball and then able to come to the United States why do we allow professionals in basketball to be able to come and take roster spots in the United States?

41:25I mean you're raising a really good question about what happens pre-enrollment right football is unique doesn't have that pre-enrollment problem Dan right you're not coming out of high school playing professional football so there's no pre-enrollment issue but in college basketball there is and I think you get a lot of coaches to agree 100% with what you're talking about I think we have to get you know into a sense of we've been in this this kind of waiver environment where some kids get to have that exception based on what you actually did when you're up and as you know like not every kid is exactly the same when they play over there and then when they come here so I think you're pointing to something that's just an absolute necessity we just have to get clarity we have to get into having rules and not having exceptions and waivers that make it really hard because then kids are going to think well I look like that student athlete who got that why why is why is why why is why don't I get the same waiver this kid got and that's when you end up in court every other day so I totally agree with you we've got to have more bright lines you know more simple rules and make a decision about you know what we want post enrollment and what we are willing to allow pre-enrollment and be consistent why can't we have a commissioner for college let's say college football a commissioner for college basketball

42:29me look it's there's been a lot of talk about that and I think we just see some of the things about that happen and look the tradition has always been this way the conference system is the way this has been built you know as you know you know for many years the NCAA really controlled the way football was operated in this country back into the 80s and then it became a conference system you know in the 90s and that's what's really survived and over the last 30 years when I was at ABC sports you know we we sort of went from having like the CFA college football association that broke apart and that gave way gave rise to this whole system structure of you know conference media deals look I think the CFP is a good place for us to start to do more of what you're suggesting which is to come together and use the structure of the college football play you have to come together use that to make rules how we manage the game competition committees at least start with empowering that organization because all of the you know we all compete for the championship in that organization to use that to do more I think it would be a great start is the big 10 commissioner Tony Petiti how is big 10 football different from SEC football you know I think our I don't really usually try to compare what we're doing big 10 SEC I think what we've got is great programs

43:36you have really good coaching across everything we're trying to great student athletes to play I'm really excited about you know the returning quarterback play we have this year I think 10 of our 18 are returning they're starting quarterback this this season so we have great depth I think the way I look at it is that we're blessed to have this rivalry I think anything you want in sports is you want competition you want your fans to deeply care about something so not only do we have rivalries inside the league but this is sort of competition with the SEC I think it's a great thing for college football it's in all the other sports we play so we kind of lead into that but at the same time like every season is different every week tends to be a little bit different but I would just say we have great depth and strength you know we've been super successful the last three years we know that we've played in 14 of the 22 CFP games the last two seasons the 2014 playoff feels like the SEC might be warming to this you would know better than me I'm only going by a source saying that you know the SEC is you got to convince them so what role can you play in convincing Greg Sankey and the SEC to warm up to 24 teams.

44:43Yeah when we work together on this you know not on every day basis but very frequently about the future of the playoff and what the format should be the way it's structured is the two leagues have control of any of the changes to the formats we've got to come together I think it has been an evolution across these ideas I think there's a lot more momentum for 24 it's definitely there's definitely you know people warming up I think a lot of coaches in AD's across all conferences really support the idea of 24 for. I think look, we got more than 100 teams playing trying to compete. It's not a high percentage. I typically go to practices in camps in the summer. I'll go see five or six schools every summer. And you want all those teams to be playing for something meaningful. And once you want to a 12 team playoff, you basically said this is it, right? This is where you need to be successful. And we just got to increase the opportunities for student athletes, for our programs and the other piece of it, at the investments that are being made, you know, it justifies having more access. Access is really key. I think I don't think Greg disputes any of that. I think his league feels the same way. We just got to work through

45:43the details of how we actually would do it. But I feel good about the evolution over the last six months about how people are sort of directly realizing the benefits. I actually think it would drastically change regular season schedule. How close do you think we're to a model like the Premier League? Or maybe the NFL where you have divisions, conferences, the same thing. And maybe you got 35, 40 teams, maybe less than that. How far off is that model in your opinion? I mean, we don't talk about that. We're happy with the 18 members that we have. We feel the structure that we have to compete in schedule works well. I think what we're focused on is I think there's a lot on the table that we can still do inside college football. I think in the big 10, we can really improve our schedule. I think fans want us to. We can play more of these games. I think we've got to solve the postseason access issue. Once we do that, we can sort of solve the other issue, which is to have more impactful matchups in the beginning of the season. I think everybody's pointed to that. There's a lot being written about this year and what's scheduled next year. We can make that better.

46:46It's right in front of us. And we don't need to change our structure to do that. We just got to solve the access to the postseason. It coach is comfortable that an early season loss isn't going to wreck your season. I love the rival with the SCC. I like when you jab a little bit. Greg Sanky's got a sense of humor. Will you have a sense of humor if he's jabbing you back if the SCC wins the national title? I mean, that's part of it. We have some fun. Our social media teams like the Lane Into it and fix some fights and have our fans pick up on it. There's lots of memes that get sent to me every day. I'm sure he gets them as well. That's the beauty of it. You couldn't write a better storyline. If you're trying to script this, you would want this. We want this rivalry between the leagues about who's better and when and who's deeper and who's better at the top. Yeah, go ahead. No, have had it. Let's go play on the field. And I think that's why we should play more in the regular season. Like if we did that, it would just inspire more of it. It's just like I said, it's an easy thing to accomplish. We know it works. We look, Texas and Ohio State in just a couple of weeks. We know the impact that game is going to have. We saw it last year. That'll just be a great event

47:51for constable. We just need to do more of that. We got to Oklahoma going to Michigan. So there's some opportunities there. And we know when we play those games, we get tremendous audiences, lots of buzz. And it makes the whole game in the sport better. Could you do a week where it's the SEC Big 10 like we have in basketball? I know there's more games, but could you do that based off last year's record or this team is going to play this team and all the way down to, I don't want Rutgers playing LSU. I want somebody who maybe is kind of commensurate to their talent level, but can we do that for a week? You're raising a really interesting scheduling thing. Not only for the way you schedule, like non-conference, but actually schedule. The NFL does a really good job. The reason why you saw the Brady Patriots and the Manning Coles play so often is because they were playing because of where they finished in their division standings. And there's something to learn from that. I think it would take time to get there. But what you're talking about is exactly the conversations we have here. We model all those things out. We have to come together

48:52to do that. But I think all of those things are in play. You don't necessarily have to schedule home and home. You can say one year you're playing in this SEC team and the next year you're on the road, but you're going someplace different. Those are all great ideas that I think fans will lead into. And there's also something like we have some really historic stadiums in both of our conferences, especially on the Big 10. And having fans have an opportunity to travel and see those stadiums go play at some of these places would be great. I think it would inspire a lot of road trips in both directions. No matter how many teams, if you add new schools to the Big 10, it's always going to be the Big 10. We're not going to actually have the exact number. That'll never happen. Not the Big 18. I don't think so. I think everybody sort of likes the Big 10. And we've got a logo that sort of, you know, allows us to sort of not like highlight the one likes right behind my head here. I want to be one. Yeah, give Jim's a lady credit for that. Thanks for joining us, Tony. Have fun this year, this season. Thanks so much, Dan. That's Tony Petiti, Big 10 commission. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows

49:54at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the IHARDS Radio app search FSR to listen live. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived. And I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart. And these are the survivor files. I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying shut up. Don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started dreaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHARDS Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever

50:59you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Beniero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smile good. That's not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHARDS Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally

52:03important to your personality, welcome home. This is Pro's Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. So obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. So like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is the Trojan horse, whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro's Society on the IHARDS Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily

53:04Tish Sussman and this season on She Pivots, the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like Para Olympian Alley Truett. I was like, I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the very little index advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that dry that I can still make a difference. So I'm gonna keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years? No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own and if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Michael and Perry Oli. I want to tell you about my new podcast Underground Zero.

54:08It's about what happened in the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York. We're looking at the opportunity of a lifetime for us and the other families. While the world was mourning, five powerful New York families saw an opportunity. The debris supposed to go to the city on salvage and some of it will. They would go on to make millions of dollars. What's in the tunnels? Go on bars, so the ingots could be worth half a billion. And they would have made more if it hadn't been for one courageous cop. No dad, don't. You're gonna need all of us. I'll call you when I can. Frank, be careful. Underground Zero. Starring Steve Sharipa, Reya Brutzo, and me, Michael and Perry Oli. Would you be willing to see your family go to pieces? Some ways it already has. Listen to Underground Zero on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Pablo Torre, journalist, podcaster, host of Pablo Torre finds out with metal arc media. Well, you did find out, but I'm curious through all of this. Any doubts along the

55:14way of your reporting after your ESPN comes out with an article recently hearing from the Clippers, hearing from other people. Any doubts? Any conversations with the wife at night of? Uh-oh. The doubts were, hey, we're still going to be married at the end of this, right? Because you're on the phone talking to sources all of the time that you say are very important. And we're at the beach with our daughter on your quote unquote vacation. That was the doubt. But in truth, like those sources were right the whole time. Dan, the thing that was interesting yesterday, and many things were interesting yesterday, was just what the NBA would do about it. And that's what we found out is what does the internal politics of league governance look like when you have a scope that leads to a rabbit hole that has four separate companies in it, manufactured paper trails, fake jobs, not just for Kauai Leonard, but for the companies, like fake consulting jobs for the companies that funneled money to Kauai Leonard through the

56:17Clippers as well as those companies. And you have now, as of yesterday, an SEC Securities and Exchange Commission, not South Houston Conference, SEC investigation into the scoreboard company that according to the NBA got the deal to build the Halo board and into it, though, because they were willing to funnel money to Kauai Leonard. That's what the NBA could not deny. What did you make of the punishments? I thought that it could have been more. And I think that it is two things. The biggest punishment for an owner that we've ever seen in American sports, I think, when you account for the fact that it is Steve Balmer banned from the building for a year, his head of business banned from the building for a year, his head of basketball banned from the building for six months because Lawrence Frank, that basketball box president, participated and provided contemporaneous notes to the NBA, by the way, a whole other rabbit hole of like why was Lawrence Frank taking

57:19notes during the Capsule convention meetings in which he is quoting, thanks to the NBA's investigators, Steve Balmer talking about how he's going to service Dennis Roberts in Kauai Leonard to circumvent the cap. Why was that there? Interesting. Thirty million dollars is changed to a guy with 145 billion, depending on Microsoft stock, but the thing about the scope and the vastness of it, the five first rounders. I mean, I just, I think it was unprecedented in that regard, but also because it was narrow in scope. There are names in this report that we have been talking about for a year that did not show up. There is a line that walked out lifting the law firm put in. Their investigation is ongoing. They are still receiving tips. As recently as just weeks ago, they are still investigating. It's only the beginning somehow, which is kind of the through line of the whole thing. Okay. Can you give me best guess of what you think could be next involving the Clippers?

58:24Well, let's just take Steve Balmer at his work. He has written a letter via his very expensive attorneys to Adam Silver blaming this podcaster for getting the NBA to do a prejudice investigation. And at first, after the ruling came out, he threatened arbitration, but this is something that is very interesting that I don't know if people appreciate about what the NBA did. When the NBA tried to settle with Steve Balmer and they said, Hey, we have a narrow scope. We have undeniable evidence. We want to just make sure that you have the opportunity to take your punishment, admit wrong doing and let us all move on. Steve Balmer, according to everything that we've seen now play out in public after that East the end story two weeks ago, decided to fight, decided to mount his own campaign. And the NBA said, well, in that case, we're going to do something that perhaps caught Steve Balmer by surprise. They found a way to settle with Kawai Leonard and the players union. Why is that important? When Kawai gets a slap on the wrist, that's where the slap on the wrist was Dan, by the way, $700,000 for Kawai Leonard. Again, historically, that's quite a bit, but in terms of

59:30the role he had in the whole story, that the slap on the wrist, you can now go on to Toronto and the betting line can adjust based on that. If Toronto wants to go through with this, not knowing what else is in the box, I digress. They got Kawai to settle. And in the NBA, what Adam Silver knows better than Steve Balmer and his lawyers know apparently is that arbitration can only be activated by the union. And so arbitration, because of that settlement, is off the table. Can't go to arbitration. What can Steve Balmer do? He can literally sue the NBA. He can sue Adam Silver, he can sue me, he can sue Wata Lipton, he can sue you, he can sue everybody. And that opens the door to spoiler alert, more discovery of documents. Could he have mitigated, like how much damage could he have mitigated by just saying to the commissioner, I'm so sorry, I fall on my sword.

1:00:33Something that was really interesting in this Wachtell report was how much the NBA leaned on. The interview he did with the SPN and Ramona Shelburn, the day after part one of my story came out. When Steve Balmer went on air, and it is so interesting, if you guys have some free time, if you want to, you know, authorize your own marriages, go rewatch that game film sometime, take time out of your day to rewatch what Steve Balmer did after knowing what he actually did. And you will see that he is lying repeatedly. And once he does that, and he's on the record, lying in public about what happened here, the NBA now has the ability to fact check. As I did, as I have been doing this whole time, and because he decided to fight from day one, as opposed to what you suggest, which is say, I am horrified by what I tried to do. I love basketball too much. I wanted the thing that I know I can't have even though I'm the richest owner in sports. And I am so humiliated by this, and I want to put this behind me and move on.

1:01:34I don't think we're here. I don't have a 15 part series. I may not have a Pulitzer rise. The NBA might not have a 35 page legal report. Steve Balmer may not pay $50 million, as he is now said, for the legal investigation into him, which is what has happened. It's crazy. That was the fork in the road. And he chose, I would say, to not tell the truth. We're talking to Pablo Torrey, the journalist, podcaster host of public Torrey finds out with metal-locked media. This isn't the first time that this has happened with an owner. It won't be the last. But I'm just surprised it hasn't come up before. Now, I know that Balmer tried to do this with Deandre Jordan, which doesn't help his case in this situation. But do you think that this is, how prevalent do you think this has been? And is there anything that you're interested in that might be going on akin to this of circumventing the salary cap?

1:02:34You got me to do it one time. And I said, what about a certain player who plays in a city where I may be living right now? And I said that and I've been trying to manage the expectations ever since then. I see what you're doing. You're a clever interviewer. But are you looking into the Nixon-Jalen Brunson? I am not focusing on the, what do they say when you're an ESPN employee and you're trying to break graphics without breaking graphics? You say, I am not currently targeting. I am not currently looking into. I'm not currently circling. Have you? Jalen Brunson in the next. I have had all sorts of calls about so many teams. I've talked to people on the next about all of this. And they're just not the focus because we have other things that are, by the way, coming very soon that are in the vein of what are billionaires who run sports trying to get away with using your money. And I will leave it there just for now because I think we got to button some stuff up. But that's, there's, let me say this, soon on the show, we will start

1:03:37a new series. And that new series will speak to a lot of the themes. And even more, I think, even greater complications for what the everyday person in America should be worried about. And so, what did Balmer do here? What makes this one special? He had the ambition of creating a scheme that is beyond what other owners have attempted. That much I'm very comfortable saying. This is the furthest point in the spectrum of attempted salary cap circumvention. People do it by degree. No one did it by this order of magnitude. And that's why the NBA, which wanted to make everybody stop talking about this. That's why they had to do the thing we saw yesterday. How does ESPN go with the story with their finest investigative reporters that basically exonerated the Clippers and Steve Balmer? I mean, I, for 15 parts a year, did, of course, the other thing. I found sources,

1:04:42whistleblowers, documents who were willing to tell the truth. What was left open, if you think of all this as sports, right? What's left available as territory for us to claim? What ESPN apparently saw was the Clipper side of the story. And the NBA immediately within an hour refutes it, go stifferously with Mike Bass's name attached to Dan and you know how rare that is. For there to be a byline on a statement that says significant and numerous inaccuracies. And what ESPN had done, according to my reporting, is they were fed a story by the Clippers that the Clippers may have known was not true. And why do you do that? Well, perhaps it's because that's the available territory that you have, having been beaten on the other part of this landscape. Perhaps you really believed it because the Clippers look you in the eye and for months, for a year said to you, we're telling the truth that annoying, clout chasing podcast or is lying to you. And at a certain point, it's a test. You choose to believe the evidence,

1:05:47the sources, the journalism, or you try to get a win even when the game's already over. Do you care? Have you received an apology from ESPN? Yeah, what's interesting, I submitted. I was told after the story published, hey, if you want to have a comment here because this is effectively refuting your whole deal here, will include a statement from you. And so I submitted a statement and I'll just paraphrase it. It was, we stand by our reporting and we look forward to the MBA's ruling. Our investigation continues. For whatever reason, ESPN did not include it. And so I don't expect an apology, I don't expect anything. I think I even need or deserve one, right? Like, I'm a big boy, as they say. I just wonder why it happened like this because in the story, a story of no alternate rational explanations, it sure seems to me based on my reporting that they got fed a story

1:06:53by the people who were lying to everybody this whole time. And I got implicated as a result of the how much money did Kauai Leonard make off the books in your opinion? So I'll tell you factually what I know and what I don't. So aspiration is a total value of $48 million. Now let's bring in the other companies, right? Boyingo wireless. Of course, which is just funny because of course, the wireless provider of the Intuitoam is given Kauai Leonard payments off the books. Of course, Dectronics, the scoreboard operator is of course, locked in insurance. The insurance company on the construction of the dome is doing the same thing, Dan. Those three companies according to the MBA's investigation, Rude 2021 guaranteed $18 million to Kauai Leonard. So doing the math at $66 million, only through, let's call it 2022. She resides with the Clippers. As I said before, on my show, in January of 24 for a discount,

1:07:56a discount less than the max. Why and what happened there? And so you're at $66 million plus. I've told the story at the beginning of it around the Rhode Island football club, starting now I'll see in which she got secret undisclosed equity the week before he signed the extension. And I ask, as always, what else was there? And I have a feeling as always that there is more. Congrats. There's been a long process there and at least to get a trophy. You get something the Clippers don't have. You get a trophy. I wasn't going to make the joke, but I'm glad you just. Thank you, Pablo. Pablo Torrey, you want to pull it surprise? I think it's a trophy. I don't know. I haven't even seen a Pulitzer. Is it a statue? Is it a plaque? Maybe some of my best people could get on that right now.

1:08:58Ribbon? Wait, Pablo. Okay. What I hope, I don't, I don't, admittedly, I've become known now for my investigations. I don't know what this looks like either with all crafts and barrison, but my hope is that it's a karate trophy. I want a big karate trophy with a karate man on the top, because I only was a white belt and I've been chasing that high ever since. So that'd be nice. You might need that white belt. You're going to need a brother. You know what? The more questions you ask about Jalen Brunson, the more martial arts you're going to need in New York City, you brought up Jalen Brunson again. You pesky journalists. Yeah. All right. I'm not winning a Pulitzer. All right. That's Pablo Torrey. Listen to Armstrong and getting on demand. We're not boring. Lot of news is boring. And tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth

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