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Just how big of a problem is tampering, perhaps bigger than you think.

Nebraska is going after the College Sports Commission's NIL deals.

A lot of big things to discuss.

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I'm Spencer McLaughlin, your host,

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There's nothing around that could possibly prove I am anything,

but that Trent Conn and Lockdown Hawkeyes, Roman Tomashoff,

Lockdown Huskies, Trey Moore of Lockdown Terrapins,

might be his first squad appearance ever.

He's been having a couple of echo issues.

So I am going to be the master of when he is allowed to speak,

but unfortunately, I can't control Zach Seiko of Lockdown,

Netany Lions or Jay Stevens of Lockdown.

But guys, Trey, would you want to introduce yourself to the world?

This is, I believe, your first squad appearance.

Everybody, let's welcome Trey.

Let's welcome Trey to the big 10 squad.

Welcome, we're glad to have you here.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

Yeah, I'm Trey, 21.

Go to school at Boston University, play lacrosse there,

but also host of Lockdown Terrapinsons

from University of Maryland, love Terrapins football and basketball.

So excited to be here.

All of you that love to lobby the accusations at us hosts

that you don't know ball because you didn't play,

you can't do it with Trey.

Everybody, you just simply can't.

Apparently, what you can do is tamper.

And the big 10 sent out a notice.

I gotta tell you optically,

so don't very good look for our conference here.

No, not at all.

They would like for there to be no more investigations

into tampering allegations.

Hmm, Trent, what does that tell you?

It tells us that, yeah, we are at free reign.

The one interesting component I thought to this though

is when they brought up the no contact issue

that is out there where guys enter the portal

with the no contact order, meaning they already know

where they're going.

We know it's a farce.

We know a lot of these deals have already been in place

well before the portal actually opens.

So maybe in a way, we can come up with an argument

that the big 10 is just trying to end the farce, right?

Let's live in a reality here.

Let's get past this.

Everybody for the most part knows where they're going,

even before the portal opens up and we move past that,

but you're right overall.

Not a great look for the big 10.

No, not a spectacular one.

Look, right on time late, Craig Sheiman,

a fucked-up big 10 is here for our recording.

No matter how late we start, Craig shows up

after we begin.

It's tradition at this point.

Roman, your thoughts on the tampering matter?

You know, I'm shocked that that's how you led

into asking me specifically about all of this.

For, you know, no reason in particular,

especially with how the big 10 treated that

a couple of months ago when Demand Williams

was reportedly being tampered with

and was mulling entering the transfer portal

since that never officially happened.

The big 10 firmly had Washington's back

and they're like, hey, yeah, if you need to go to court

to fight this for everything that happens.

Like, yeah, we're right here with you.

Seeing this, I really like transplant.

I think that that is a very big part of this.

It's probably like, yeah, we know it's happening.

So we just, we need stricter cart rails

in place for all of this.

And I know it's something we've talked about

in several other angles of NIL

and college athletics in general.

And it's all just exhausting at this point in time.

And I think that, I think this is just one of those things

that we're gonna look back on at the end of the day

and say, yeah, we still, like,

this is probably not the right angle

to be looking at all of this,

but rolls are still needed.

Jay, what do you think?

Tony Patiti's put himself in a real bad spot

because the last time he made a big splash,

it was a 2014 playoff.

And he got a lot of pushback for it.

And you thought that he was gonna stop trying to do things

to make himself look bad.

But here he is once again, doing something

to make himself look bad.

It's just not a good look for the big 10.

And I wouldn't be shocked if in a couple of months

he starts trying to put some playoff format

on a napkin and send it over to somebody

that covers a sport nationally,

says, hey, look, how about we just leak this out here

and try to see what the public thinks about this?

He's just not really doing the best job

to get the public to be on his side.

And everyone got on Kevin Warren for what he did

and how he led the big 10 back in 2020.

I haven't seen, there's a lot of pushback for Tony Patiti

as well and I understand why

because it's man just continues to do things

that make him look bad.

Try, you're currently a student athlete

in this whole landscape.

You being tampered with right now?

If so, blink twice.

I'm not, not getting tampered with right now,

but I think from my perspective,

thinking about some of the schools

like University of Maryland, I think,

a lot of it happens at schools like that,

kind of the smaller schools that don't have as much money

to go around.

And I think there's got to be some rules and regulations

behind it if the University of Maryland and schools

like that want to be able to ever keep up

with some of the other opponents in the big 10.

Yeah, I mean, just imagine how many schools

have probably already reached out to Malik Washington

getting ready for the impending season

and potential firing of Mike Loxley.

They are going, they are going to come calling.

That is, I think, a given.

Say go, how do we fix this?

How do we fix it?

I mean, by the big 10 in the SCC,

breaking away from the NCAA.

I mean, it's, no, no.

Sorry, keep going.

I just, I don't like that idea.

Why?

Because college football, having a true national component

is fantastic.

And if it was only big 10 against SCC,

that'd get boring.

What did it get boring?

Compared to what it is now, yes.

It would be significantly less exciting.

I very much enjoy watching Penn State beat up

on a group of six schools, yes.

Well, you get to do it three times a year.

It takes an extra level of the amateurism of it all

out of this thing now, right?

To two Spencer's point of, if it's the big 10 against the SCC

and it's money versus money and power versus power every week,

it just becomes an even more just junior version of the NFL,

which in some senses is kind of exhausting.

Yeah.

That's what I mean.

And I'm not saying that the big 10 in the SCC aren't

going to expand.

That it's just the current version of the big 10

and the current version of the SCC.

But we are going to get the two super mega conferences.

It's probably going to be 64 teams, 64 schools.

And if you're not in the league, well, good luck

because it's going to happen at some point.

Yeah, it'd be terrible when Iowa gets left behind out of that.

It's just going to be nightmare.

It'd just be hard breaking.

All right.

Are all of our schools safe in that super league?

Sorry, Trey.

If it's 64, it might be left behind.

Yeah, Maryland, Maryland might be left behind.

I don't know.

I actually don't know that Maryland would get left behind.

They've got the most unique mascot in college football

or one of them.

No, I think we'd be left behind.

No, OK, never mind.

Never mind.

That's why you left right there.

My pulse on all things Maryland is clearly not as attached

as my heart pulsing through the rest of my body.

Anyway, so Craig, when you saw Tony Petiti put out

that message to the world, what would you think?

Well, first of all, I'm just glad he spoke

because to Jay's point, he doesn't look good a lot of times

because he lets Greg Sankey do all the talking.

And Petiti rarely makes any statements.

And overall, there's four ways

that you could fix college football, right?

And tampering or whatever issue of the day is.

You can have the NCAA fix it, which they feel to do.

They lost their chance.

So then you can have Congress fix it,

but they're not smart enough to do it.

And then you can have an executive order

from the president, which is coming,

but then fight that in the legal courts

and let the courts decide the Supreme Court

decide the rules of college football.

Or you can leave the NCAA altogether

and join the super conference.

And look, to Zach's point, that super conference

will grow.

It's not going to just be the same old teams.

40 to 50 teams, it will be an NFL style super conference

AFC versus NFC, Big 10 SEC.

I think that's the direction we ultimately go.

By the way, if you check out my Thursday podcast,

I'd like to have Big 10.

It is about that very stuff.

What are my favorite subjects to talk about?

Everybody watches Craig's show already.

Who does it?

Hey, I had a rough week.

Instead of using a day, oh, man, that was last week.

I'm still living off of it.

It's up to 220 now.

Yeah, you're like goons coming in here and saying,

man, I haven't watched my team win a football game in months,

which is your team.

And you could do that too.

I hate everything that just happened here.

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All right, continuing on, we have lost two.

Did we lose two from the first segment or one?

Wow, he really was too.

He really was tempered with.

I was just going to let you know.

Yeah, Tray got a better offer.

He hit the portal.

Saco probably went to talk about wrestling, but yeah,

anyway, Nebraska is trying to say this college sports

commission, which was a part of the house settlement

that came about last year is not valid because they

have ruled some NIL deals to not be legitimate.

And Trent, I don't think that it's a bad thing

that this commission got together evaluated some deals.

I'm not talking about a specific case or instance.

I'm just talking about the premise of it.

I don't think it's inherently a bad thing, right?

It's not.

No, this makes sense.

We're trying to put up guardrails for this entity

that we call college athletics.

The problem is that we have litigation.

Every single place you turn.

And what we've learned in college athletics,

it's very simple.

You don't like what's happening?

You sue.

It's as simple as that.

That's what's happening on the Nebraska side.

Are you talking about that?

I could sue and get Roman fired from the network.

Is that what you're telling me?

I was trying to get my line again, man.

Oh, my God.

You two are a lot more important.

You got to be quicker than that.

In this discussion, I am Ultron and you are Tony Stark.

So I win this particular moment,

ignore what happens at the end of that movie.

I was going to say, I win the war.

What is going, what are you guys talking about?

What is this?

Oh, God.

Wait, wait, wait.

Jay, do you know what we're talking about?

I don't.

No, I don't.

Craig, do you know what we're talking about?

I just wonder if Trent paid his light bill again.

It's always so dark.

I have the light right here.

I always pay my light.

Wow.

Roman there.

We're over three on getting that race.

I know.

That is crazy.

OK, we interrupt the Trent.

Trent could, Trent could continue.

I think I just said it.

They're going to sue.

Everybody's going to sue.

And until we get real litigation

and tell these, all these athletes become employees,

this is going to be our reality.

And it doesn't matter if it's within the next year,

the next five years, the next 10 years,

that is the only end game.

I think that's something you nerds like end game, right?

Oh, there you go.

There you go.

You got that one, but you know, I just, I just know the term.

I've never seen a movie or anything like that.

I just, I think it's incredible.

That's an incredible pivot.

We're dropping like one of the most iconic seeds

from a feature Marvel film.

And then you come back with that one after going,

I don't know, I deal with the hell you're talking about.

I still don't.

All right.

Take it away, Roman.

Yeah.

I'm still a little bit in shock.

It's not.

I, Spencer, I'm with you 100% here.

Where the amount of deals that have been not approved

by the CSC since its inception is not a large number either.

So I, I kind of look at the situation.

And I say, I don't, I don't know, man,

there'll be a reason that that your deals

were not approved.

I'm curious to, you know, get into some of the specifics

of that as, as details are revealed.

But this is just one of those things

where I think all in all, the CSC is a very good thing

for the world of college athletics,

where we've talked about this a lot on, on, on these squad shows,

where there are teams that are just going out and paying this

that whatever to get some of the top defensive linemen

in the country when you look at what Texas Tech is doing

on a yearly basis.

And there, there's no way that all of that is, you know,

going to be approved in some way, shape, or form

if you really dive into it.

And the fact that we have some kind of just like basic

governing body for that is a very good thing in my opinion.

That's, that's, that's mild with all.

All that money at Texas Tech to score no points on Oregon.

There's just something popped into my head.

Anyway, Craig, what happened the week after that?

Is the, is the CSC Washington still wasn't playing?

Is, is the CSC just out to get Nebraska here?

Is that, is that what's happening?

I don't know, in my understanding was all 18 players.

It was all one deal, right?

For like a million dollars divided amongst all of them.

It was, I don't, I don't know if it were multiple individual

deals or not.

But nevertheless, I'm sitting here thinking, how many time,

how many things can we actually sue for now?

Does CSC name image of likeness?

We can sue about the transfer portal and whether we can go

wherever we want.

We can sue about eligibility who want to play a ninth year

of college football, uh, revenue share loss.

Everything's a lawsuit now.

I remember back in the good old days, we just, you went to

school, you got your scholarship and you played football

and then we would vote on who the champion was because they didn't

get any money under the table like like a real sport.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The good old, the good old it.

Well, well, we wouldn't have mixed savings college football.

I, gosh dang it.

Now you beat me to it by half a second.

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

That's right.

I don't like that.

I don't like that feeling.

Gosh, that's, ah, it's battling back.

He's battling back anyway.

Uh, Jay, Jay, do you, do you, do you, do you?

Do you like the idea of the CSC turning down NIL deals because though it comes from

different pockets, the way it gets received on RN is people in the content and reporting

space is well, we rules and regulations on this.

Well, here's some regulation.

Oh my gosh, I can't believe they regulated it.

That's how it kind of feels to me right now.

I mean, it's exactly what it is.

I mean, you laid it out very well.

That's exactly what happened.

Somebody doesn't like the outcome of the rule that's in place.

That's life.

Not just sports.

That's life.

We may not like to speak limit.

We have to buy by it.

And if we don't, a cop may pull us over, we may get a ticket.

That's just life.

And so I get when you're 18 to 22 years old and you have a lot of power and cost football

right now.

For decades, the athletes didn't have as much power as it currently have and now these

guys have power and when rules are there that they can't overcome, they can't have

to follow them or they get in trouble or they don't get money.

Sorry, buddy.

Well, I'm not really sorry.

That's life.

That's all life works.

And so you may not like it.

But oh, well, live with it.

Jay, I thought you hosted lock-on-buck guys.

Not locked-on, Georgia.

Oh, that's another good one.

That's a good point.

That's a good point.

That's a good point.

I will say they didn't talk on my when I said that, but I see the dots being connected.

Roman, Roman Brought is a game tonight.

Yeah.

What can I say?

It's like the antithesis of what Oregon basketball brought in round one of the big 10 basketball

tournament.

They were so bad.

They were so bad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's, that's, that's correct.

That's correct.

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Start us off to wrap today's show.

What is your number one question going into Spring Football for the Iowa Hawkeyes?

Oh, that's a good one.

Have they improved at the wider receiver position?

It's not going to be fixed.

It's not going to be great.

But they went into the portal.

They got a couple of guys that had some decent offers coming out of the FCS ranks.

So can they agree improvement there?

It's going to be a quarterback battle.

That's going to be probably the headliner.

But most importantly, do they have a couple of guys that can get open in the Tim Lester

scheme?

We've seen improvements, certainly, the offense the last two years.

But wide receiver, can they take a step over there for me?

Anyone else seen that Peyton Manning, SNL sketch, where Peyton Manning is a community ambassador

and he's playing football with the kids.

When Trent said get open, I thought of it, look open, get open, and then he just hex

the kid and drops into the floor.

I feel like an Iowa quarterback could feel that frustration open.

Oh, God, just give them a Paul crew.

Wouldn't the Iowa quarterback have to get to the pole there first?

Yeah, that's true.

That would push back.

Good.

That means you're realistic.

We can appreciate that.

Roman, is there a question that supersedes whether or not the locker-extamined Williams?

Yes, actually, there is.

And it's what the difference between a six-freshman class looks like in my opinion, because

there is a lot that Washington really likes about the roster going into this year, whether

it be the offensive line, what the defense as a whole can bring.

But the biggest question, in my opinion, is how some of these true freshmen are going

to look the part and then hang physically as we get into the spring football period, because

Washington might have a true freshman starter at left tackle on Cody Green.

They're going to ask at least two, if not three, Blue Chip recruits to play big-time

roles on the defensive line in Tiamu guys, Derek Coleman-Brusa and JD Hill, who's not

going to be here for spring practice.

But then there are so many other guys, Brian Bonner running back, a trio of wide receivers

in Jordan Clay, Trez Davis, Mason James.

There are so many guys that this coaching staff wants to take big roles as true freshmen.

We saw it last year in 2025, and now Jed Fish is trying to build on that with his highest

ranked recruiting class in program history.

So I look at all of these guys, and I think that there is a lot to like about what Washington

is bringing to the table, but yeah, all of that, especially some recent things that I've

heard around the program and how quickly Demon might have just re-assimulated into everything

that's going on at Washington, that certainly supersedes what that's going to look like in

my opinion.

Continuing in the unchanged order of hosts here on YouTube, Jay, what's your top question

for the buck, guys?

What will the offense look like?

Because bringing an Arthur Smith, I think Roman made a comment about it last week before

about Arthur Smith and his offense and how it might not be the best fit for Ohio State

does, and I'm on the same page with everyone there.

I'm not sold, and this was the right hire.

But if Arthur Smith shifts his mindset and transforms into college, it leans into more

with Ryan Day, when Ryan Day was a play-caller, I think that'd be the best fit, but who

knows?

We literally have no idea what Arthur Smith will do with the offense, and I'm really kind

of nervous based off what happened last year and how the offense looked when it was slower

and had a lot of heavier sets.

If that continues, Ryan Day will have to answer a lot of questions about why this

approach won offense.

It's happening again when you have a former NFL head coach who's your experience doing

the same thing you did last year with an inexperienced play-caller.

Craig, wrap it up with your number one spring question across the Big Ten.

It could be Team specific, but what comes to mind?

Specifically, are we just going to gloss over the fact that the Oregon Duck basketball team

almost became the first team ever to be shut out in the first half of a Big Ten turn?

Hey, they were like 12 points clear of getting shut out in the half.

Craig, good news is your Hoosers are looking great though.

Yeah, no comment on that.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Are you upset that your team is not quite into the NCAA tournament field?

Because let me tell you, I can think of a worse scenario for a basketball program to

be in today.

Well, you want to hear it.

Let me just...

U.S.C. losing the Washington three times in a season when you say that, right?

Oh, gosh, that's good.

Well, I'll tell you guys this, because I live and die with Indiana basketball, and there's

nothing worse than I'm not getting in the tournament being on the outside of the bubble,

but I'm going to tell you, winning a Natty and football smooths that over on the big

baseline.

Yeah, I'm okay.

I'm okay.

You know how often I think about the Seahawks beating Roman's Patriots in the Super Bowl,

the answers every single day, since they're out.

Is that the only thing that just like gives you a sense of calm in this world where Oregon

has never won a national championship?

Yes.

Yeah, I had a feeling.

Yeah, I mean, playing golf is good, but I chucked a club on the 17th of the day, so I don't

know if that's always...

I respect that.

Always qualifies.

You look like you're in a swanky hotel, some yellow head boards behind the bed.

Where are you at these days?

I'm in Las Vegas in New York, New York Hotel.

I'm down here for a bunch of college basketball stuff.

Including watching my Santa Clara Broncos make it to the WCC title game for the first

time in 19 years, and they will be in the NCAA tournament for the first time in 30 years

since before I was born.

So I'm going to hold on to that while ignoring the fact that it's pretty, shall we say,

sad that Oregon has fallen behind my alma mater that hasn't made the tournament in three

decade.

Who the point guard was on that team?

Anybody know this?

Steve Nash.

Steve Nash was a college point guard the last time Santa Clara made the NCAA tournament.

So that's where things are at.

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