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Number one, we're going to be talking about Parker Ainsworth, Locked on Houston.

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Obviously, Leaf Tholene, we appreciate you for being here too, as well, from Lockdown

Arizona, and as well as Cody Stovall from Lockdown Oklahoma State.

Guys, we've got a lot to talk about today.

Obviously, the Big 12 was brought in eight to the bracket, but is that enough?

Did a couple teams get left out in this thing?

Because there are people that had gripes, was West Virginia one of those?

Maybe.

I think at the end of the day, the Big 12 was pretty well represented, but

certainly, you could make a case that a couple other teams should have got in.

Parker, what are your thoughts on the bracket?

Obviously, Houston's in a pretty good spot here.

You guys actually went landed in a pretty decent bracket, as well, the side of the bracket

that you're in.

Yeah, I don't hate anything about Houston's draw.

I've seen the biggest thing for Houston to be playing the South, and that means they

go through the Toyota Center.

There's a whole bunch of good reasons behind doing that.

The truth is about like missing teams, and I'll be interested to hear from you and Cody

as guys that didn't make the cut.

I don't mean that negatively.

I don't feel like there's like a team that we missed out on that could like make a big

run.

George Mason's happened every once in a while.

It's part of the fun of the tournament, but there's not like some key player.

I wish I got to watch play in March Madness that's not getting too necessarily or anything

quite like that.

I guess we talked pre-pod about like Stanford's point guard is pretty good.

I don't say there's no good players out there either, but I'm not like missing out

on some, they didn't cut DeBonza from the tournament, right?

Nothing like that happens, so I think on the whole, I'm all right.

Yeah, obviously you guys, I mean, do we really need to bring up Idaho?

Have you actually looked into Idaho yet?

Are they a team worth mentioning alongside Houston and this thing?

I mean, what's the score going to be in this?

The Fandals.

The Fandals spreads right now at 23 and a half as time goes by.

I will say they have a freshman six, eight guy that will probably be playing somewhere

else next year, and if anything, he might use this game as an audition tape, right?

And I'm looking to talk to an expert this week on them to kind of get ahead of that,

but they're all right.

The trickier one might actually be around the second round.

If you beat Idaho, you play the winner of St. Mary's A&M, who were like as opposite as

Opsick can be, Bucky Ball is everyone is six, six and shorter, and they shoot a whole

bunch of threes in full court press.

St. Mary's looking to have a 50 possessions a game.

It is, it's been interesting to see who wins that one and how things play out, but that's

all in Oklahoma this weekend for even get to Houston afterwards.

So a lot of fun stuff after it in our side of the bracket.

It's fun, though.

It's fun kind of basketball, I think it was out saying that yes, there's some teams

that got left off.

I'll be quickly for promise.

Since Natti should be in here, I think you could make the argument West Virginia should

be in there.

You could make the argument that the cowboys are going up to be in there, but I will say

this is actually a big opportunity in my opinion.

We've got several representatives in the NIT tournament to go along the inside of the

tournament.

If the big 12 team wins the NCAA tournament, the big 12 team wins the NIT tournament, the

big 12 team wins the crown tournament.

Can we not at least use that as momentum going in the next season to stop this disillusionment

that the SEC is good at flipping basketball.

Now I'll give it to you, Lisa.

Since you're one of the teams that can win it all alongside Houston.

I think Arizona and Houston have really, really good draws to at least make it to the

elite eight.

Ideally, if I'm Arizona, I don't love the Wisconsin part of it, but like you can't really

complain that much.

I think the two and three, I don't think Purdue and Gonzaga are particularly great for Arizona

as for Houston.

I felt like Houston got among the best draws as there were and Houston is one of those

teams that's as bankable as you can have.

Houston, you can book them to the sweet 16 just about every year.

From then on, I don't hate their dry.

They're ill in a way, North Carolina, VCU.

I don't mind it at all.

I'm with Harcarran.

There's just as a huge college basketball nerd.

I am so excited for the St. Mary's versus Texas A&M game because one team literally presses

every single possession and the other takes the clock to 28 every possession.

It's going to be very, very interesting to see who can control tempo and the weird part

is usually the team that's in the extreme pressing.

It's usually the under athletic team.

It's usually the mid major, this time it's the high major doing it to the mid major and

so that's really, really particularly interesting to me.

That's the last seven or eight years of West Virginia basketball.

We started out press Virginia.

Now we're about 60 possessions a game under Ross Hodge.

We've seen the entire gamut of what that all is that you're going to be seeing that one

game, but obviously moving on to Arizona really quick.

I think you guys, most people will consider to be the favorites of the tournament.

The draw really doesn't matter in this case either.

I wouldn't imagine Long Island.

I mean, what's the spread in this game?

Probably bigger than 23, I'm imagining.

I haven't even gotten there yet, but all I know about Long Island thus far before digging

in super deep is Rod Strickland's The Head Coach.

If the main guy that people know is the coach, it's probably a good sign that Arizona

is in good shape, but the other part is they're going from Long Island, New York to San

Diego to play that game.

I don't know how they're feeling about that, but Arizona's case, I felt very good about

the eight nine matchups as well.

Utah State, I live in Utah, I've seen Utah State plenty of times, and they're a team

that I think is good, but they lack one critical factor when you play Arizona as you need

to tremendous size, and they're small.

Villanova's center is about 6'8", so I don't think when you have Mo Kreeboss and those

guys looming around the basket that Arizona is terribly worried in their first couple,

so I like the path of the sweet 16, and once you get to the sweet 16, you got to play

good ball.

And Arizona, to me, is the favorite.

ESPN and all those brackets have duke at 27% in Arizona at like 18 as the most popular,

but if you watch these selection shows, all the people are taking Arizona and the team

that was taking a lot last year was Florida, and it's not necessarily always a great

thing to be picked widely, and there's expectation, but Arizona is as bankable as there is, because

in the games they've been healthy this season, they haven't lost.

Like the two games they've lost, Koa Pete was severely limited, and Koa Pete, you could

argue the third best player on the team, and many thought he would be the best player

on the team, so Arizona's strength is just how many great players they have on a team

that can step up when one's missing, but when they're fully healthy and whole, there

are really hard to beat.

Phil, as a player on the team, and top 30 player in the country, we got eight teams in

the tournament.

Would you consider it a disappointment if only four of the eight made it to the sweet

16?

I'll speak first.

I don't, I don't think so.

I actually would be interested to hear what somebody who's not in the tournament thought

on that, though, because part of my thing is like, I do think there's kind of a gap

where they want to draw it at Iowa State, or Kansas, and the rest of the conference.

I would put tech and be where you'll above that pre-injuries, but the injuries obviously

limited them, and like, they're just seem to be a pretty sizable gap within the conference.

Now, that top part of the conference can win the whole thing, whether it's Iowa State,

Houston, Arizona, like I do think they're that good, but I do think that there is kind

of a line in the sand there, post-Ritchie Saunders and JT Topp and injuries that's hard

to ignore.

I think Texas Tech, at least a reasonable path is why I brought that up.

I would be slightly disappointed if we didn't get four of the eight teams in the sweet 16.

Maybe not the elite eight, right?

That might be asking for too much, but my personal opinion, yes, the big 12 seems needs

to send a message here.

You're right.

We've probably only got two, three teams that legitimately can win it all, but I think

numerically, just like last year, if you get eight teams in, you've got to get at least

four of those to the sweet 16 to give the big 12 that credence and respect level that

we deserve, in my opinion.

Because it doesn't really get two teams in the sweet 16, everyone's going to talk about

how the big 12s overrated and people need to stop talking, but it'll be the exact opposite.

If we got four or five teams in, I do think that it does help with the national image

of the big 12 to go alongside winning the crown in the NIT, huh?

Yeah, I mean, when you look at it too, I mean, you're talking about really good basketball

teams at the top of the big 12 and Arizona, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Texas, Texas,

Tech, and BYU all have a path there.

And I mean, you've got the best player in the country at BYU, Texas, Tech has probably

been one of the most stable programs in college basketball for five years, Kansas is

Kansas.

Iowa State obviously has one of the bigger matchup problems issues and how do you say

it's last saying my chill of it's your how do you say it's like I can never say it right.

And I mean, he's a matchup problem every week.

And then he's so good.

You don't have to get his name right.

Everybody knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Right.

Is it some on chill a bit?

Is that how you say it?

I think there's a seal of it somewhere in there.

Yeah, it's something like that.

It's tough to say.

And then I would say this too, guards are, you know, March guards are important.

They miss folks at UCF could be a problem for some teams, especially with very little

problems or very little time to prepare for them because he truly one of the tougher matchup

problems in the league in my opinion.

So it's going to be interesting to see what happens in this tournament up next.

We got to talk a little bit about this too.

There was something that was put out that put the talked about the spending in college sports

and Indiana way up there at $32 million.

Some of the big 12 teams a little bit more manageable.

Are we the most efficient big 12 that can be?

And then Parker's got something he wants to bring up too.

We're going to talk about that right off the break.

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It's segment to let's crack open this do and obviously we're going to get to a topic

that I thought was interesting today.

We're talking about efficiency Matt Brown put out an article today talking about spending

and some some teams are spending a lot of money guys Indiana spent 32 million dollars

Tennessee spent 23 million dollars Arizona is at 22 million dollars Texas is at 22 you

cons at 21 but for the most part what I noticed about this article and what this tracks

is everything but NIL basically right so everything but NILs included so that is a kind

of a big caveat but I would say this you look at some of the over spending for some

of these teams I mean what are these teams doing what is Indiana doing now you take out

eight million from Mike Woodson and that buy out so they're not as far ahead of everybody

as you would think but far and away the biggest flop and all of basketball football and

not football but basketball this year has got to be the Indiana Hoosiers I mean how do

you spend that much money not even make the tournament it's incredible you talk about

the best staff this also counts recruiting as well so we're talking about freshmen I

mean how do you do it Arizona good job 22 million dollars spent well man leap what do you

say well the answer to the Indiana one is they should have hired Ben McCollum but that's

a side danger because if they had Ben McCollum and and signety they might win both each

year because McCollum's unbelievable and I like I was team as one player and it's Ben

it starts and the rest of the team I'm not trying to be dismissive of them but you love

to watch the game and see see any player be like oh yeah like he's decent nope it's just

Ben it starts and they're they're in the tournament and they've got a chance when they first

game but to the question my Arizona I think a lot of it has been poured into basketball obviously

football did a good job but like I think there's a clear hierarchy to a lot of these schools

and some of them tried to mix and match and say like yeah we're going to dip just this

much into football this much into basketball and it ends up putting a lot of weight and

pressure on one of the programs or the other and it ends up costing the other program

like if if you were to be a football school I think it's makes more sense to prioritize

football and in Arizona's case I think basketball will always be the bigger draw I mean obviously

football may cost more because you're paying more players you're paying for different

stuff but like in terms of basketball spending Arizona is going to be in the top

echelon always and in the in the football spending I think they'll be in the mid tier and

that's why you expect Arizona to be a championship contender basketball and you're pleasantly surprised

by them being a good team in football a team that had had an outside chance of getting to

the big 12 title obviously didn't but they were they were 9 and 3 in the regular season

that's a good season and would you like to better absolutely but the year before your

four and eight so that was that was great but basketball is always going to be number one

like Parker Parker and Calvin Samson had the whole talk talk about like oh we're poor

relatively speaking compared to non big 12 but they're going to prioritize basketball

enough to get five stars and to me there's that's a a hierarchy of spending of an athletic

department that I think makes sense. We're poor but Paul tell us exactly where Houston

comes in this whole spiel because I got a good feeling about it about 14 and a half million

man really good job from Houston obviously and very well spent there too I mean you're

talking about both sports and not really surprised I mean you guys have had to do more with

less for a while now coming into the big 12 and you're not getting a full share so it's

not surprised right I mean when do you guys start getting a full share is it next year?

Yeah so we'll start in the it will we'll have it I guess the July 1st is the data

whatever right so that's one of the things start that was part of the agreement coming

in I guess should say and now my understanding was that when Houston and their group of

four schools came into the big 12 none of them had previously been in a power conference

since that was part of the agreement whereas the pack 12 schools had like well we were in

power conference kind of arguments so they didn't have it and it was also agreed upon

you later I don't know if they'd done it quite that way had things happen the other way

around but also I don't know if Houston would have been included but been the other around

so I'm not going to hate it either look I I will say I think that you've seen Houston

make great strides doing more with less and I don't mean to go back to you know when

people said in the 80s and 90s and when the big 12 broke off from the S as I was conference

and left Houston out or whatever but there was a fear like what if Houston got that oil

money involved in their athletic program because of all the talent in Houston and all

of that and we're obviously a far cry from that potatoes just but a man right but I think

there is a momentum shift happening whether it's Dr. Couture at the top new AD Chris Pesman

like I think it goes all the way around and so I'm feeling good about it you mentioned

however many million dollars that has to be like the best per win between football and basketball

combined out imagine in the country yeah it was up there I don't have it right in front

of me anymore I think it was it was it was it was definitely I think it mentioned one

of the best in the country I do remember that there was so there's a lot of data there

I should I would highly suggest the article if you know Matt Brown is it does a great

job just so you guys know what's Virginia's at 10.77 million that ad gives us about 566

K per win which is not the worst but it's not the best we're about you know middle of

package but you know obviously we're ramping up spending now with with rim baker and company

saying hey look West Virginia we're committed to being the top funding tier the big 12 that's not

going to come and you know that report won't happen until this coming year based off of this

come this year so and same thing with Oklahoma State when you guys spent seven million dollars on

one quarterback that doesn't even count in this and that's a big part of this is an IELD isn't

really being counted and you know and to some extent like when you look at some of these

universities that are private you can you can FOIA all you want but sometimes you're just not

going to get the information and that's why a lot of these big 12 teams weren't listed in this

but it was alluded to that most big 12 teams were in that 11 to 16 17 million dollar range you know

so I mean usually it's a big 10 or an SEC school if it's 18 or above 20 or above so it's interesting

but what are your thoughts on on Oklahoma State how they've done with spending obviously you're

going to have to probably count some of what gundies offsetting and all that too right um I mean

we had one win this previous season and not very many more than year before if you're talking

about return on investment um if Houston might have the best in the country when it comes to wins

per how much you spent we might be the worst definitely in the big 12 I will say this though

there has been a massive investment there seemed to be some reluctancy from some donors to

participate heavily under my gundie now that we've got Roz Murdy and Eric Morse those those

individuals that were supposedly waiting in the wings they have clearly stepped up you mentioned

the seven and a half million we're paying to the quarterback we're taking care of of Caleb Hawkins

Wyatt Young we've got some defensive dudes that were we're definitely taking care of I think

Oklahoma State is going to be viewed in a significantly different light after this upcoming season

but until now basketball has been trending the right way but not great football has been

absolutely abysmal so I think we spent fine we just spent the money on the wrong people right

there's a difference between being able to spend money and being able to allocate the funds

towards the right dudes last year we probably spent roughly in the same category as Houston probably

in the 15-ish range and we we didn't pay for the right guys we're paying for the right guys now and

we've got donors that seemingly are are flooding the the campus with more dollars including basketball

right there's a lot of conversations about NIL and basketball and still are going up to 10

mill next year so I imagine that we're going to be much more competitive in both sports moving forward

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is what I'm probably could have said Parker you brought something up to me right before the show

we'll pivot really quick football scoop does have some predictions on when total

sure the big 12 but I actually think yours is kind of cool what were you talking about actually

think it's kind of cool listen Houston we just talked about doing well given the finance situation

bet MGM which is I guess another outlet out there that does sports things posted an interesting

list on social media and it compared who has the most successful basketball and football coaches

the revenue sports right and I got to ask where y'all at where are y'all at Houston comes at number

two Alabama one Tennessee three Oregon four Louisville five Virginia six Miami seven Florida eight

we're the only big 12 reps guys where y'all been well mark my words give it a couple of years

let Eric Morris get rolling because David Taylor is already the other part of that equation

Steve Lutz could be a guy but if you're talking about combinations I'm a little upset that they

only included those two particular sports because I think Penn State would even have an argument

if you looked at kale Sanderson and if Matt Campbell is successful they could probably be on this list as

well let's let's not dismiss the man sport of wrestling ladies and gentlemen because David Taylor

would be up there after Eric Morris gets this thing rolling the possibility of Arizona being on

this list intrigues me you give your guy one more you're on the football side of things Tommy Lloyd

would be an easy ad yeah I was thinking that the Brett Brennan going four and eight in the first

year and kind of just a transitional year really hampered the chances here but Tommy Lloyd through

five years of being a head coach has broken the record for most wins in five years uh he's

crushing it so I think Tommy Lloyd's obviously going to be on here and I'm not uh saying he didn't

inherit a great crop of talent like they came in with a one seed level talent he got coach

the year he got coach the year this year in the big 12 so they got talent uh Brett Brennan I

think this year's a prove it year because they're four and eight then nine and four and I think

you know you got Fafita one more time I think the the bar is at least seven wins I think they should

be aiming to be an eight or nine win team and if you can exceed that then you have a great season

they're certainly on this my big takeaway was why is Alabama there Kaelin DeBoer has been like

an underwhelming football guy and oats you know they've had one one seed year they made one final

four as a four seed and then each year they've they've been like oh you know top two preseason they

have so much talent five stars money spent for transfers and they're a four seed again like

four seed again guys I think that's absolutely insane that they're number one on that graphic that's

also why MGM is hot garbage and we use uh independent they've got as many they got more guys kicked at a

school uh then they have final fours that's never good percentages I think I think hallways

officially have a school at this point um look I also he is playing in the game on uh on

Thursday Friday that's ludicrous he had pounds plural and as bad anyway um I I I want to ask

look we can all have our respective hats on say why we think our people should be real quick we're

talking about some win totals here in the in the big 12 because I think when you look at next year

what they're predicting from what you know they've got Texas Tech at 11 and a half which is

crazy why you and Utah at eight and a half Arizona Houston Kansas State at seven and a half

Arizona State Baylor Oklahoma State and TCO six and a half Cincinnati Iowa State Kansas

UCF West Virginia at five and a half and then Deon Sanders is at four and a half yeah they're just

Deon Sanders now and all seriousness though what do your guys take away from your specific team and

what they've got going on there six and a half is reasonable I have no reason to talk disparaging

disparagingly on it do I think why young Caleb Hawkins Drew Mesta maker or should account for more

yes but after one win season I think six and a half spare I'll cut leaf off I think that honestly

Houston's a little undersold there I understand that they had a fairly friendly schedule last year

their schedule next year is not a whole lot less friendly they have at Oregon State at home they play

Southern they play Georgia Southern those are non-conference games you get obviously have to go to tech

you have to go to Utah I think another tough one they got at some point Morgan times a tough

place to play and I will know I don't know as much about them as you would probably tell me more

about them next year two manhand Kansas those tough places to play but like last year this team went

10 and three they went half the games are just listed you're looking at another 10-ish win season

you know I think that that's a pretty strong yeah I mean I I feel pretty good but Houston

going in next year given the way their portal class shook out the recruiting class of Keeshaan

obviously I'm feeling all right feeling all right I think that's a low number for us what about

the player I think that the numbers pretty spot on I mean just a couple of moments ago I had said

that like it's a maker break year it's a prove a year for Brennan and the boys but I said seven

is kind of like the level of like okay like you got to get seven to maintain momentum but I

but I kind of expect more than that because you bring back the offensive player of the year

and in no if I feel sorry excuse me the I would should have been the offensive player of the year

in my opinion and he ended up being the quarterback of the year because he was first to

my quarterback and if you were to tell me that you get that back and you retain all your coordinators

offensive defensive keep the coaches in system I feel like you're bound to go up the only

thing that would be a question is how well do you replace the defensive backs that made Arizona

such a volunteer defense by the end of the season where their turnover ratio was such a positive

so I think there is room for regression but I just think having Fafita if he's healthy

allows you to be at seven at a baseline and I think if you're anything better than seven you're

pretty pleased I think obviously at Arizona fans that listen to it would be like oh we should be

better but I think it's realistic to say like eight wins is pretty good even if nine was the number

last year because Arizona started one in three in conference rattle off a bunch and I think they

had a fairly friendly schedule with a couple wins that you know weren't like if you picked before

the season you're probably not saying they win because it came off for eight but also they have a tough

schedule coming in eight wins and a bit of beyond I'm happy what about you tall you know yeah real

quick here I'll say you know obviously for West Virginia you could go either way on it I think

personally I mean as a home or I'll say five and a half is probably just a little bit low

I would like to see us up into that six and a half or seven and a half box um reason is it's like

you know and especially you know I've spoken to a lot of people in camp here uh this is start

of the spring and West Virginia's offensive line as a chance to be elite this year they went

spent right around four million dollars on the offensive line alone they've got the best freshman

I think offensive lineman in the big 12 in Kevin Brown who broke every single record this

offseason in the weight room coming in luckily Penn State lost that kid we are so lucky to get a

kid of this caliber like I said coming into this I think he'll be the Jordan seat in West Virginia

I think he's that good um he's probably going to start it's going to be hard to keep him off the

field and that's included in West Virginia went out and got six starters from the portal from other

places two all conference guys you know one guy that started the last seven games of the year

at Kansas State and had a well heck of a run that we gave 500 500 K2 um you know and that's not

including the incumbent the people that were already here last year so yeah I do think and then

you bring in Rick trick it the best offensive line coach one of the two or three best of the last

30 years he's put over 40 guys in the NFL he won a national championship was saving he won a national

championship with Jim bow and now he reunites with Rich Rod where he's had a top five rushing offense

three of the last three years in college football two of those with Rich Rod one without Rich Rod

because he's just the best offensive line coach more one of the best out there so I think offensively

we're going to be really good my cockins junior early reports on him are very good um you know

he's a four three kid and you when you get Rich Rod a four three quarter quarterback that can

run four three with the leading rusher from last year and camcook who was started at TCU he's

now at West Virginia he who had 1600 rushing yards last year 1900 from scrimmage I think we're

going to have an elite offense our defense I don't know I think there are some holes there we

get to fix and that's the reason I'm not totally over the moon for us right now to be honest I think

we're going to have a year to jump it's similar to Houston's but I don't think we're going to be

as good as Houston's was I think we'll probably be closer to seven maybe eight or four lucky I'm trying

to keep it reasonable there but our offense is in position to be really good next year I really

believe that so look up at West Virginia as far as a little bit of a sleeper I think I think we

could all agree Michael Hawkins junior has a ton of talent but I'm going to give you something a

piece of wisdom to hold on to for the rest of your life Paul you ready you can't never trust

a sooner man so you're you're getting all excited for nothing he's gonna let you down I guarantee it

well we've got Scotty Fox you know what I mean like that's a heck of a battle going on um and

there's no guarantee that he beats out Scotty who had just thrown into the fire as a true freshman

last year so um don't want to keep you guys too much longer but um what did you say about

them local homestead cowboys there I didn't I did you did you talk about that yeah I said it was

fair I think that's right you didn't say much okay all right well I guess we're all we're on

agreement then uh anybody else on this list just egregious really quick though before we go like

is 11 and a half like is that really where Texas Tech is at is that the bar for them right now

towards their spending I mean they spent like it right I can tell you this as a betan man I love

tech I think they have a really good chance to win the big 12 again 11 and a half is a lot of

game yeah I'm not taking the over on that bat no no way no way no way yeah I mean they lose at least one

and more than down nope I'm stunned they're not on that list of best coaches of basketball and football I

mean that's a great way from there's 11 and a half for football and gramma castle just had you

any elite eight and in year two uh what was that even year one now I was year two is like yeah how

how are you not on that list and someone or and as a back to uh 11 wins and basketball he any

any in Macass and Macasson lost his best player reigning coach player of the year and still has

them as a 60 or whatever that five six whatever yeah and it's like okay you're a crazy real

Baker stat 16 like if we if we really quickly bring something up like I'm big 12 gets four in

the sweet 16 because I think Arizona Houston Iowa State should be in the sweet 16 like their

paths a ton and then I think one of BYU Texas tech or Kansas can make it like I think St. John's

will beat Kansas I'll just be up front about that but like it's not it's not crazy to say Kansas

can win that one I think BYU can beat Gonzaga should they beat a Texas or NC State I think Texas

tech will beat Akron and will beat Alabama because Alabama doesn't guard um and so like you got six

chances to make the sweet 16 in my opinion like I'm not trying to be disparaging to UCF or TCU TCU

obviously got Duke at if they can be Oklahoma State I think UCLA is a tough draw for UCF but like

you got six chance to make the sweet 16 I think they should have three in the elite eight Iowa State's

got a little more tenuous there but I really expect Arizona and Houston both to be in the lead eight

and I've got both my bracket in the final four at a baby leave all right guys thank you all so much

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