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In 1972, Bill Cosby was recording a stand-up comedy album in the San Francisco Bay Area,

a live performance at the Circle Star Theatre in San Carlos, California. The album,

it would go on to be one of his best sellers, another notch in the career.

That was already making him one of the most beloved entertainers in America at the time.

That same night, that exact same night, a woman named Donna Motsinger woke up alone in her home

with her clothes gone, knowing she'd been drugged and assaulted by the man who would just put her

in a limousine a few hours earlier. One night, two things happened. One became a cultural artifact

that people bought, played in their living rooms, and laughed at four years. Some still do.

The other became a secret, Donna Motsinger carried for over 50 years.

Until a jury in Santa Monica, California finally heard it.

And order Bill Cosby to pay her $59.25 million.

Let's talk about how we got here, because the path is as important as the destination.

And as we do, your thoughts in the comment section on Substack and YouTube links are in the

description. Donna Motsinger was in her early 30s in 1972. She was working as a server at the

Trident, a well-known restaurant in Sossolito, California. She had a nine-year-old son. She was

living her life. Bill Cosby started coming into that restaurant regularly while he was in town

for his recording sessions, not once, not twice. He came back repeatedly over the course of that

week. He was friendly, charming. He's Bill Cosby. Of course he was. That's the whole point.

He eventually invited her to attend his comedy show. He sent a limousine to pick her up.

I wouldn't pause on that for a second. Excuse me, because the details, if how Cosby

allegedly operated, matter a great deal to understanding what he did and why so many women never

said anything. This was an impulsive. This was an accidental. It took time, repeated contact,

and deliberate effect to build enough familiarity than an invitation like that felt normal, safe,

even. And once Donna Motsinger was in that car, according to her testimony, in the lawsuit filed

in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Cosby gave her a glass of wine and two pills. She believed

were aspirin. You know, like every great first date starts here. Have some pills.

She started feeling sick backstage. She went in and on a consciousness, the last thing she

remembered were flashes of light. She woke up at home, clothes gone underwear on. She knew what

had happened. And she said nothing for decades. Here's where the story becomes about more than one

woman because it was never about just one woman. At least 60 women have come forward over the years

of the allegations against Bill Cosby. Sixty. And when you read through their accounts,

a pattern emerges that's almost mechanically consistent, access cultivated through charm

and celebrity. Alcohol introduced, pills described as something innocuous, consciousness lost,

assault occurred while the woman was incapacitated. The specifics changed. The structure

doesn't. And Motsinger's trial to other accusers testified to establish exactly that pattern. One

of them was Victoria Valentina, a former Playboy model. Now 82 years old. She says that in 1969,

she met Cosby at a restaurant while she was in the middle of grieving her six-year-old son had

recently drowned. She was in that kind of pain. The kind that leaves a person raw and unguarded.

And she says that is when Cosby convinced her to swallow two pills. He then drove her to a nearby

office and assaulted her. Well, she was too immobilized to fight back. That's the accusation.

I mean, just take a second with that. She was bearing her child. And according to her testimony,

that's when he moved in. It's doing picture page on the side, picture page, picture page,

doing the Cosby kids, doing the albums. What other shows were going on at that time? He's a

celebrity. He is someone that America is loving. He's breaking barriers at this moment in time.

He is not a man that you're going to want to try and pull down because people are going to call

you crazy and horrible. And what are you doing? This man is moving mountains. How dare you say some

story like that? He's this lovable, wonderful character. And look, he's going to feel so hurt.

And this is how they are able to do it. This is how he's able to pull off this facade forever.

This is a man who was so calculated in the way that he did things of managing his image

and his facade as this friendly, lovable, I am the most harmless, safe person you could possibly

imagine. It wasn't just sitcoms where he's the dad. It wasn't just comedy albums where he's

the lovable friend that is hilarious. He also went into children's television.

Children's books. I got one right here. This from 1999. He's marketing himself all the way into

the 2000s. Still, as I knew it, I lived this era. But if you didn't, this man had decades of

pretending to be something he wasn't all the way down to children's books. This is a series

called Little Bill, Books for Beginning Raiders. And if you're reading the title,

you're exactly right. It says what it says, Bill Cosby, the worst day of my life.

Scholastic put it out. My future mother-in-law picked this up the other day at a thrift store.

She knew it was going to make me go, oh my God.

But I mean, this is how insidious he was with his image.

How could the man who is making children's literature, he's the friendly,

there isn't, there is not in current American culture.

A single human being, I would say, that has the image or the reputation that Bill Cosby had in

the 1980s and 90s. I can't think of one. There's plenty of people who are respected,

but not as well-known as well-respected and revered, I would say. Reveared is a word that describes

how Bill Cosby was looked at. I can't think of anybody that I can think of plenty of people who

kind of fit that mold, but none who were at the level to which he was at one period in time.

We're just the insinuation that he would have done something like that would just be met with

scoffs. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. No way. Here, let's go to the book

mobile and get a book. Oh, you want to get to Bill Cosby? One, isn't he funny? Look at that.

This is a great book. I mean, this is, it was a machine. It was a machine that manufactured

an image that everybody believed that allowed him to be the biggest monster in the room.

This woman is literally bearing her child.

And in Bill's mind, fresh meat. She's vulnerable. This will be easy. That's how he's thinking.

That's a predator's think. You look for the vulnerable, the most influential,

and they go for that. Can we become a master at it? He of course denies his allegations, says he's

going to fight them. And I'm sure he will fight all of this shit until the day he's dead, which I'm

sure is not far away. And eventually, he'll be up to an estate to settle the shit and he'll be

long gone. But we'll still be able to learn about the worst day of his life, right?

I wonder what the worst day of his life is actually about.

We get toothpaste on his nose. I mean, it's a kid's book. So it looks like he's putting on

clothes he doesn't like wearing and misses the busts or something. But surprisingly,

there's not accusations of asmiss conduct in this book. The worst day of Bill's life,

60 women came after me today and accused me of drugging them. And yeah, that's not in this

elastic version of the book. Of course, the thing we get from everybody, why didn't these

women say something sooner? That question gets asked a lot and it always irritates the living

shit out of me. And every victim who's ever existed because the answer is right in front of us.

This was Bill Cosby by 1972. He was already a household name already beloved already powerful.

Donna Motsinger was a restaurant server, a woman who was in her 30s with a nine year old son.

Who do you think people were going to believe? What room did a woman have in 1972 to walk into a

police station and accuse one of America's most beloved entertainers of drugging and assaulting her?

The answer is none. And Cosby understood that, built on it, counted on it,

allegedly. Let's just assume there were allegedly ends every sentence here, so I have to say it

every goddamn time, okay? What makes this case even harder to sit with is what came out during

the trial. In closing arguments, Motsinger's attorney played excerpts from a videotape deposition

in which Cosby under oath acknowledged obtaining a prescription for quay ludes at a poker game with

a physician, huh? How nice. He renewed that prescription seven times. He stated that his intention

and obtaining them was to give the drug to women he was pursuing sexually. This is just how he did

things. I don't think he even thought anything was wrong with it. I think Bill honestly is more

upset that the game changed on him. At the game he was playing, that the society around him,

which allowed him to play it, I think he's mad all of that changed. And the perception changed,

and the reality changed, and he didn't change. And he's wondering why now, because he thought,

I'm playing by the rules of the game. I got all this power. I'm doing this. This is

because now I'm bad for this. Yes, you are, Bill, because you had a moral failure.

Not every, not every male, although we're learning, unfortunately, I think a giant percentage,

a higher percentage than not from this period of time gave into those options.

By the way, to them, it was presented as options. I don't think a lot of these,

this is no way excusing it, but I'm just telling you the mindset at the time. Go watch mad men,

go watch anything of the era. It does not excuse it, but if you're trying to understand the context

to which these people operated in, they didn't think anything was wrong with their activity.

And it was being backed up in their own groups and their own, you know, you have the

atmosphere today. I mean, there was a version of that back then, rich, powerful men together at a bar,

basically saying, yeah, we can do this. And there wasn't anybody. There wasn't, there wasn't

necessarily advocacy groups or anywhere near the level that we have today standing up and speaking

out going, this is horrible. This is insane. We can't do this. There was a 1,000% different atmosphere.

And this shit went well on to the 80s, into the 90s. I mean, it slowly changed.

But at the time when this shit was going down,

it almost feels like a different species of human beings to a certain extent.

What was considered acceptable behavior or boys will be boys or mentally whatever the

fuck you want to say, whatever stupid platitude there is. It literally kind of started and ended

right there. I know it's like, that's horrible. It's wrong. You're right. It is. It's horrible,

but it is where it was. And I'm not saying it like that's just the way it is. Some things will

never change. That's just the way it is. Now, I'm saying that's the way it was.

And he can't change history. We can all scream and we can say, yeah, we sure should have been

and thank God, you know, things have changed. And they have. Is it perfect? No. But are we

in 1972? No. We're not in 1972 anymore. Thank God.

But if you're really trying to get back behind

how these people are thinking, because I don't think they're necessarily sitting there,

you know, around a cauldron. How can we do this today? I just, this is how

and what's really shocking about it is Bill Cosby was a powerful man. He had

celebrity. He had a, you know, on the surface, a very powerful and positive personality.

Such as America's dad. People loved him. Why he felt he needed to drug women to begin with.

It's like kind of insane out of the gate. It's like, you don't need any, you have the magic of you

of people wanting to be near you. People wanting to have relationships with you.

Why are you drugging people and taking their autonomy, their control away?

I think the answer that ultimately comes down to, well, he liked control. He liked absolute control.

But it really is insane, isn't it? When you really, if you really look like why,

like this, this just, like if you want to be a celebrity and go out and sleep with a bunch of people,

he had the power to do it without drugs, without drugging anyone.

But somehow he felt like that was, that was required.

His story, you know, it could have been so different. It could have been, yeah, he was,

he slept around a lot, and a lot of people have stories of, yes, I had an affair with Bill Cosby

back then. And people could look back at as they look back on, on prior relationships that

didn't involve coercive control. I mean, I think we can all, we all have lives if we've lived

a little bit. We can all look back on relationships, small, short, one-night stands, whatever you

want to say, and that we're not coercively controlled. Hopefully most of us have never lived a life

like that and go, yeah, you know, like, yeah, that was, it was sort of fair. It was, I don't know,

fair, but it was, it was, it was a relationship. It was a, whatever you want to call it, you know,

in a positive way where it's positive for both partners.

It could have been that. It could have been, look back on his, well, when I was younger, yes,

yes, we had our moments together and in both parties can look back going, yes, that happened.

And, and it was lovely in both parties, but it's like, no, he drugged her, like, yep, he drugged

me and it was horrible. Like, it didn't have to be that. Why? Why? Why are you getting pushed, like, what the

I just,

creating problems where there doesn't need to be problems, really.

I mean, there's a lot that you can go into, I guess, into the psychology of Bill Cosby.

Is it, is it, was he that insecure? Was he that?

Was he lacking that much, for a man who exuded so much confidence? Was he that

lacking confidence in that part of his life and in his sexual world that he thought the only

way to do that was by having a drug to zombie-like partner? I mean, is that

who the hell does that? I mean, I know the answer to it, like, rapists and Bill Cosby,

allegedly, but I mean, I'm trying to wrap my mind around something. I don't think I'll have

a really, really, truly wrap it around because I think either you think that way or you don't.

And so Bill gets the drugs at the party or he gets the prescription for the drugs and he

goes for an actual pharmacy to fill the prescription. And then when asked whether a woman who

received a quailude from him was capable of giving consent, he said he did not know, he simply

did not know. So Bill, it appears you know what you're doing. So you're tearing pretty well.

That's not an allegation from a plaintiff that's not a claim from a prosecutor. That's Bill Cosby

on tape in his own words. I wasn't a best-selling album. It was a deposition explaining what he was

doing with sedatives who he intended to give them to an acknowledging that he never stopped to

consider whether those women could meaningfully agree to anything. He admits to doing this stuff.

The thing is now when women come out and accuse him in court, he'll just deny he doesn't want to

give them money out. But he's already admitted like this is his modality. This is what he does.

So here's a person who says you did this to them, Bill.

Picture page, picture page.

Look up, picture page, if you're not right, I'm talking about.

Done a modcing or didn't wait until 2023 to try to hold Bill Cosby accountable. That part

of the story deserves to be said out loud. Back in 2005, when Andrea Constran filed a civil

lawsuit against Cosby for a separate alleged assault, more than a dozen women agreed to come

forward as witnesses. Monsinger was one of them. She appeared in those proceedings anonymously

listed in court documents as Jane Doe number eight. She was prepared to go through this publicly

on record almost 20 years ago. Constran ultimately reached a private settlement. The case resolved

quietly and Cosby walked. Then in 2018, he was criminally convicted in Pennsylvania,

three counts of aggravated indecent assault against Constran.

Based largely on deposition testimony and given in her civil case under what he believed

was an agreement with prosecutors that shielded him from criminal charges.

This is how Bill went away. And also how he got out. He was sentenced to three to ten years in

state prison. He served nearly three years. And in 2021, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court threw

out the conviction not because new evidence emerged, not because the jury got it wrong,

because the court found that Cosby had testified in the constant civil case after a prior

prosecutor led him to believe he had immunity from criminal prosecution and that using his own

testimony against him in a subsequent criminal trial was a constitutional violation.

The procedural agreement that had been designed to coax testimony out of him became the mechanism

that also set him free. Yes, Kubrickson done only in America. He walked out of that prison in

June of 2021. That is the system working exactly as designed and still producing an outcome that

fell to a lot of people like a punch in the stomach because it was. Donna Monsinger filed her lawsuit

in 2023. She was 84 years old. The case was made possible by a California law assigned by

Governor Gavin Newsom in 2022 that temporarily suspended the statute of limitations for older

s assault civil claims, creating a look back window that allowed accusers to bring suits that would

otherwise have been permanently time barred. Botsinger's case moved through the California court

system in roughly two and a half years from filing the verdict that is fast by any measure.

The trial lasted nearly two weeks in Santa Monica, the same courthouse where in 2022,

fellow accuser Judy Houth won a civil verdict against Cosby for an alleged assault at the Playboy

Mansion in 1975 when she was 16 years old. Cosby appealed that verdict then in January of this

year, just two months before this trial concluded he quietly withdrew that appeal. And Monsinger's trial

Cosby now 88 legally blind and reportedly insignificant financial decline did not testify. He is not

testified on his own defense in any of these proceedings. Criminal or civil is Attorney Jennifer

Bojene argued that the case rested on speculation. She pointed out that Monsinger acknowledged having

no direct memory of the assault itself against the malice suppression or fraud filing. Bojene argued

against punitive damages by noting that her client is an elderly homebound man who cannot leave

his house. The jury was not moved. They found Cosby libel for s assault and s battery of an

intoxicated person and they awarded Monsinger 17.5 million for past emotional suffering and 1.75

million for future suffering. Then in an afternoon session, they found that he had acted with

malice, suppression or fraud. The legal threshold required in California for punitive damages and

added 40 million dollars total 59.25 million dollars. Well, Donna Monsinger ever see that money

and expert witness estimated Cosby's net worth and approximately 128 million dollars. Cosby

disputes that figure in his own deposition of this case. He described his finances as having

gone down like a submarine with no murder reports indicate he has been selling off properties to

meet his bills. The appeal has already been announced to the gap between what a jury awards

and what a plaintiff actually collects is real and it is often significant. But Donna Monsinger

said something after the verdict that I think matters more than the number. The verdict is not

just about me. It's about finally being heard and holding Mr. Cosby accountable. I've carried the

weight of what happened to me for more than 50 years. It never goes away. Today, a jury saw the truth

and held him accountable and that means everything. She already tried his Jane Doe number eight in 2005,

20 years ago. She watched it go nowhere. She watched him get convicted in 2018 and walked

free in 2021 on a technicality born from his own legal strategy and then at 84 years old,

she walked into a Santa Monica courthouse and did it again. The criminal system gave Bill Cosby

his freedom back. Not because he proved he didn't do it, but because a prosecutor made a promise

two decades ago that the next prosecutor decided to ignore the civil system using a law that didn't

exist until three years ago. Just held him accountable to the tune of nearly 60 million dollars.

California had to rewrite its laws to get there. An 84 year old woman had to walk into a courtroom

and testify, but the worst night of her life, a night that 54 years ago also produced a best-selling

comedy album. She already tried once. She tried again. Victoria Valentino, who is grieving a drowned

child when she says he came for her and the woman who was Jane Doe number eight for 20 years before

she finally had a name on a verdict. If it took all of that, the change law more than a half a century.

Women in their 80s willing to go through it again, the question worth sitting with is this,

how many others are still waiting and how many gave up long before the law caught up.

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