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It's Friday on DGS.

Get ready to wrap up the week.

Dave will be back next week.

Rachel Zimmerman, Andrew Stolz, Kevin Wheeler with you here until five o'clock.

Actually, 455 to be specific.

Because we got more sports tonight.

We got the Cardinals tonight on KMLX.

So busy sports day.

What a great performance for the Billikens, man.

Yeah, that's exciting.

Biggest comeback in school history.

They were down 21.

They ended up winning the game.

Being down 21 was pretty surprising.

But obviously the historic comeback keeps them alive in the A-10 tournament.

Pretty, I mean, it's up to me.

They feel like a lock for the big dance in selection Sunday, of course, is this Sunday.

And Josh Schertz today also got a big contract extension.

There'd been a lot of rumors that some other schools were going to try to poach him and take him somewhere else.

And the Billikens got that done.

They're keeping their coach.

They're moving out of the A-10 tournament.

And I think we'll be talking about dancing in the NCAA tournament.

Once we come back here on Monday as well.

So as I mentioned, busy sports day on KMLX.

We won't be talking sports all along.

When I've Bernie Mickless in 230, talk some cards in Billikens.

Alvin Reed's going to join us later.

George Mayhe, Dave Murray, of course.

You hang out with us till five.

We'll get you to the weekend.

I have a dream about it.

I try to add TGS again, Dave, back on Monday.

And the rest of the career we're all hanging out taking you into the weekend.

I forgot to mention too that tonight is the continuation of the World Baseball Classic as well.

The United States taking on Canada tonight.

And this is the elimination round now.

So it's Winter Go Home, one game at a time.

So this is the quarter finals.

Yeah, the semis.

Sunday and then obviously the championship game coming up next week.

And then everybody's back to their respective big league teams to get ready for the start of the regular season,

which is now only 13 days away.

So there you go.

A lot of things going on in the World Sports Day.

Obviously, we won't be doing that the whole time.

We will talk about all that with Bernie, though.

Are we better than Canada?

Yes.

The United States is favorite.

They were the favorite coming in in Vegas.

There were just some difficulties.

They just had the one lane game where they didn't really show up because we had questions about whether or not they actually knew they needed to win.

And they're all still saying they knew and nobody acted like it.

The manager sure set a couple of things that makes you wonder.

But I guess, you know, it's over now because they advanced.

Now people are going to let it go because of that, but it was still pretty weird.

It definitely shouldn't have been like that.

A lot to do today.

And obviously, you know, we got all kinds of good stuff.

I mentioned Bernie.

We'll talk sports with us.

We'll go all over the place with Alvin Reed.

We'll talk food with George May.

He going into the weekend.

And then obviously Dave Murray is going to tell us if the roller coaster ride is still on schedule.

Because it sure seems like it is.

It's been nuts.

Does this guy does?

I know we talked about Dave brings it up all the time.

Davis is very much impacted by the weather.

Sonny or cloudy or, you know, the temperature swings.

How about you guys?

Is it hits you much?

Yeah.

I mean, I start to really miss the sun.

And, you know, just I feel like I'm in overall like a brighter, happier mood whenever it's sunny and nice outside.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It bothers me more now than it used to.

It never used to bother me.

And I still love a good cloudy day.

But when it's like nothing but clouds for like a week.

Yeah, more.

I'm such a, you guys know, I'm such a weirdo.

That it, the only stuff that ever impacts me is if it's going to like mess up my plans.

You know what I mean?

Like if it's going to rain and I got to sit all day and wait to see or coach, we got to turn them at this weekend and see.

Oh, are we going to play at one or two or four?

Like that stuff I hate.

I hate when the roads get messed up from rain or snow.

And I, you know, the extra heat is always a bit too much.

But it's always about that practical thing.

I don't, it doesn't, it doesn't hit me where I'm like happier that the sun is out.

Or glue me because the sun's not out.

It's definitely more of like, what is it going to do to my life today?

So when I take the dogs for a walk, I'm going to freeze my ass off because it's windy and cold.

More about that.

Yeah, that seasonal effective disorder though.

No, it's real.

Absolutely, man.

It's, I mean, nobody really, I mean, you kind of in people you instinctively knew it for a long time because you would see that way that people were affected by it.

But it's actually, yeah, it's actually a thing.

And it's one of those deals to me, like this time of year, you feel like you're on the yo-yo getting yanked around because you get to get the teas like we had earlier this week.

Even today, you know, these next couple days are going to be nice, right?

I mean, it's supposed to be around 60 to day tomorrow and maybe warmer than that on Sunday.

And then we get punched in the face for a couple of days.

Yeah.

Sloppy snowflakes.

Hamster sized.

Perhaps.

Are we, are we still going with the hamster sized?

Did he say that yesterday?

I couldn't remember.

Um, I don't remember if the hamster size came up during these segments.

All right.

I'm going to have to ask about the hamsters today.

It came up during the recorded forecast.

Okay.

Okay.

So he did use that yesterday anyway.

I do.

I just don't remember it from here because obviously I don't remember every word that comes through my ear, but my ears.

I don't say earballs.

Hmm.

What?

What the whole world is that?

Man.

How are you guys doing?

I still, you still got the coughs going here and there.

That's fine.

I'm feeling a lot better.

Like are you feeling better though?

Because you guys are like lighter.

You're not, you know, it's, you don't seem like you want to take a nap.

Yeah.

I mean, on the ear.

I have a lot more energy.

I still don't have like a ton of energy, but I have a lot more energy.

So I'm feeling good.

I think tomorrow I might like try to work out or something.

Nice.

Nice.

Yeah, we're that.

That was, that was really kind of the same thing that Dave had for a long time.

Yeah.

Similar idea.

I mean, I don't know that it's the same exact thing, but the same kind of impact where it was days of coughing.

You know, a little bit of a drag for a little bit, for a little while.

I don't even know if I want to say it out loud, but so far I've missed everything.

For the winter.

Now I'm going to get, now I'm going to get it though.

Here's what happened.

I'm going to get one of those May colds where it's like nice out, but you feel like garbage.

Yeah.

And somehow that makes it worse.

Yeah.

That's what's going to happen.

I'm going to get something really stupid because I said, not because I said that, but just because I've gotten, I've dodged so many bullets so far.

Yeah.

I kind of felt like that's what happened to me too because it's just caught up to you.

Yeah.

I had had like one small thing back in like September.

It was just a couple days of not feeling so great.

And then I'm like, man, I'm really getting off easy this year.

And then I got sick.

But now feeling feeling much better.

Well, go to sleep says Dave wore the virus down before he passed it on to you guys.

Not that we know that anything got passed around.

Yeah.

I don't know because I don't even know if Andrew and I like had the same thing necessarily.

No, that's true.

And you guys are never happened to be sick at the same time.

So you guys are almost never in the same room at work.

Like how much of the day are you actually in the same room?

We lunch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So half an hour maybe.

Yeah.

Out of a five or six hour day.

Sure.

You know, reduce those odds a little bit.

Yeah.

Of course, I say that and I'm in the room with Dave and Rachel for four straight hours.

And I've been in the room with Andrew, you know, literally what 10 feet away.

Oh, so I think we found the person who spread it.

Oh, well, you know, is that kind of like the one who smelt it?

Maybe.

The one that moved around gave it to everybody.

I could have been one of what do they call that when you could be you could be the like the source of a contingent,

but not actually be sick.

There's a name for that.

Typhoid Mary.

No, I think she famously that is what happened to Typhoid Mary.

You're right.

I thought she also had Typhoid.

I think she might have, but I don't think it like affected her.

It was something like that.

Like either she had immunity, but was still able to pass it along.

It was something like that.

You guys think we have another plague coming soon.

Well, I hope it's not.

Yeah.

I hope that's not me.

That would suck.

It's okay.

We're we're through it anyway.

Like now that it's over, I'm like that wasn't so bad.

So bad for our idea.

But in the thick of it, I was telling you wheels.

I'm like, it just makes me think of like every day.

I'm sick.

Why am I not in the best mood ever?

Like, you're still right.

Life is so wonderful.

I don't feel like trash.

I'm not sick.

Why am I not in the best mood ever?

I'm like, you're still right.

Life is so wonderful.

I don't feel like trash.

We knew the truth he lives on my block.

And he drives an arrow.

When I'm a walk and I start.

I'm gonna be on a Friday.

We'll get back to full normal on Monday.

We'll be back and I can't wait for the stories, man.

I can't wait to hear the description of the game between Dominican and Venezuela.

It sounds like it was from from what Dave told us in our group chat.

And what Tom Ackerman told us in the sports boys chat.

Sounds like it was pretty amazing.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

And it's always funny.

It's like, if Dave were just like at home this week, it would feel different.

But he was also like having this.

Doing cool things.

Yeah.

So it's like, we were damn chewing.

Yeah.

Well, he's doing all the fun things.

We're not doing.

He's going out to nice dinners.

He's going to ball games every day.

And then of course gets the big ball game on Wednesday night.

I played golf with Ricky Horton and John Tudor.

Not that any of that's cool.

All right.

It's really cool.

We'll have good story time.

It's going to be DG.

That's what I say all the time.

Well, I have good story time on Monday.

Let's have Razor's Edge.

What do you got today, Rich?

Okay.

When I talk about teachers because for whatever reason, my TikTok algorithm has been showing

the videos of teachers just basically complaining about their jobs, which I don't blame them.

I think it's probably harder than ever to be a teacher.

And some of the comments on these videos I'm presuming from parents are so wild.

So I saw a video last night of this young teacher.

She's probably like 26, 27.

And she was like, hey, just so you know, as a kindergarten teacher, I should not be the first person

teaching your child how to write their name.

Right.

They should be learning that at home.

And then we can work on letters outside of their name here at school.

But like this is just something you should be hands on with in teaching your child how to write their own name.

It weighs so much of my time.

And some of these kids have like long, unique names or like they're spelled, you know, just different than like...

Right, right.

There are different spellings of...

Yes.

It's like mom and dad wanted to have be fun.

And it's like, that's great.

But it's like, then it's a burden on me to like keep all this stuff straight.

And the...

I could not believe the comments.

People were like, um, that's your job.

What else are they paying you for?

No, it's not their job.

I shouldn't have to do this.

And it's like, wait, wait, wait.

In what universe, when you're talking about your child's development, does it seem like a good look to say,

I shouldn't have to do this.

I mean, that tells you how lazy you are.

Insane.

It makes you wonder like, well, why do you have a child?

If you don't want...

If you don't think you should be responsible for helping them learn like anything

because writing your name is kind of step one.

Yeah.

I mean, really.

And again, we're not talking about special needs.

We're not talking about any special circumstances.

No.

Just talking about the norm.

Yeah.

Just a regular child.

Um, I mean, I would, but I would venture to say like, even if there are special needs, you could still try to teach them a little something at all.

Yes.

I mean, like the timing might be different by age.

Right.

But all the while, regardless of of your child's capabilities, you're the one.

You're the one.

You're the boss, the CEO, the one in charge.

And you need to do the initial steps.

You need to be the one that teaches reading.

And because I think about it this way, if a teacher has to take the time to constantly help the couple of kids whose parents wouldn't put in the work to teach them how to spell their name,

you're now taking time away from the rest of the class.

Absolutely.

So that takes away.

And again, maybe it's only a couple of seconds here and there, but if it's every day and it's not just one thing, it becomes...

If it's one thing there, if it's, you can't spell your name, well, what else is it?

Right.

And what else am I going to have to slow the class down for?

Because you're not doing your job at home as a parent.

I know.

It was just, I could not believe the number of comments and the diversity of people saying, like, but that's your job.

That's your...

Why are you on here complaining?

That's what you're paid to do.

Like, yeah, it is her job to help your child learn.

That's the definition of being a teacher.

They have a curriculum.

Right.

To just completely throw up your hands and say, none of it's my responsibility.

It's all on you.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

You're damaging your child if that's your attitude.

Yeah.

In that same vein, I saw this article on Buzzfeed of kind of just polling different teachers across the country.

And they're talking about the everyday things that students don't seem to do for themselves anymore.

And of course, this isn't the rule.

What age can you say?

This is all across the board.

I got to say elementary schoolish.

Yeah.

I think we're focused on like early education.

Okay.

So younger kids, right?

So, I mean, obviously, there are plenty of kids who do this, but there are a large enough percentage of children out there not doing this.

That multiple people have said, this is what's going on.

So, three and four year olds, so pre-K, most of our kids cannot put on a jacket at all.

They won't even try.

They start throwing tantrums before even attempting, saying they can't do it.

It's too hard, et cetera.

Put on a jacket.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A kid should be able to do that.

And again, you know, it's bullying me.

It's guys.

It's not as easy as it seems because they do get frustrated.

It doesn't take long to put one arm in one and one arm in the other.

And they can figure that stuff out pretty good.

Well, the problem is, none of this is a reflection on the children.

The problem is, it's the parents going...

They don't have the patients.

Yeah, it's just easier for the parents to do it.

It's quicker for the parents to do it, so they're not teaching the kids.

The majority of students struggle to read a clock and lets it's digital.

That one, I'm a little more understanding of just because most clocks are digital now.

I don't know that I have a clock in my house that isn't digital.

Now, you know, when my kid was little, I'm not sure we did either.

That was, that was 28 years ago.

She's, she's almost 29.

So even then, I'm not sure we actually had a physical like count the hands clock in our house.

Maybe we did, but I don't remember it.

Right.

And I specifically remember learning to do that at school.

Okay.

Because I don't, I think we had a clock like that.

But most of the, there were plenty of digital clocks around.

Yeah.

I mean, the R's all had them, right?

Stoves and obviously phones.

You guys have been around long enough to have phones most of your life, right?

Since I was, yeah, like 20 years ago.

Yeah.

About a little over half.

Yeah.

Okay.

So one teacher says, I have been shocked by the number of second and third graders who can't tie their shoes.

That's a big deal.

When you're a little kid, it becomes like a right of passage to learn how to tie your own shoes.

And it is frustrating.

I remember being so frustrated by like, the bunnies goes in the hole and blah, blah.

I was so confused.

I didn't know it was going on.

I don't remember learning it that way.

I remember just like, here, you do this, this and this.

And I was like, oh, that's okay.

I'll try.

And then I probably failed a million times.

I remember being frustrated, but I was also like five years old, four years old.

And then I was able to figure it out.

There's a bit of a learning curve, but we got it figured out.

But again, I think this is another example of like, well, it's just easier if I tie it for them

or we just get them the Velcro schools forever.

Well, I mean, as long as you're presenting a situation that's not going to cause a problem in class,

that isn't going to make the teacher stop and tie the shoes of eight kids.

If you got slip-ons or you got Velcro's, I mean, at least you're providing a solution to this.

You still need to teach it.

But that's not something that should be taught in school.

Let's see here.

One teacher says, I just retired after spending decades teaching an intercourse at a university.

The reason I retired retired.

So university?

Yeah.

Cheating is the norm and accepted.

Critical thinking is out the door.

And the use of chat GPT is the typical way students answer questions or write something on assigned topics.

Yeah.

And again, just so crazy to think about.

Well, here's the thing, like, I'm not going to pretend like if chat GPT existed when I was in high school,

I wouldn't have been taking advantage of it.

Same.

Like, that's the things.

It's like, do we really expect this technology to exist?

And then these kids are just.

No, but that's the thing is.

They're going to go like, I'm pure of heart and I will be the only one writing my essay.

Like, no, they're probably all going to turn to this technology.

But the reason I wouldn't have done it is because my dad would have destroyed me.

He would have taken everything I cared about and taken it away.

Yeah.

That's a good thing.

And I would have, and I would not have done it.

Look, we all get tempted when you're 16, 17 years old and you're like,

oh, I didn't want to study.

It's boring or that class is hard or whatever.

If I had done something like that that would have been considered cheating,

I would have lost every privilege I had for months and months on end.

And I knew that, which is why I didn't have done something like that.

I mean, that's where it's on parents.

Yeah.

I mean, I do understand when you're young, you don't always know.

By the time you're in college, you should have the common sense to understand.

You're there to learn the skills you're going to need to be a professional at something.

And the skills you're going to need to be able to pull as a professional at something

is not just searching AI because they could just use AI instead of you.

If that's the way you're going to approach it.

So the point there is not to just pass the class or get the grade.

You actually have to learn how to do things.

Because then when you get to work, you know how to accomplish things.

You know how to finish a process.

I don't know how many times.

Have you guys seen these same videos?

We've talked about it before.

I think of employers being like, yeah, people are always quitting

because they don't understand what the demands of actually doing work are.

You know, they don't understand that when I give them a task.

I saw this is a brief version of it.

I'm going to shorten it up.

But I saw an employer pointing out there since she was talking about taking the initiative.

So it's like, I gave this employee a task.

I said, hey, we need this paper work from our law firm or whatever it was.

From another company but was working on a project with this company.

Can you reach out to them on Monday and tell them we need it by the end of the week?

Right?

So that person sent an email to that other company.

And then on Wednesday, the boss checks back and says, hey, you got anything on that?

It's Wednesday.

We need that by Friday.

And the reply was, well, I emailed them on Monday and they haven't gotten back to me.

Well, this is what you're learning with shortcuts.

You're learning that you don't need to take extra steps to do anything.

Because what you should do there, I think we all would agree, right?

If you don't hear that day, follow up the next day.

And if you don't hear that day, maybe make a phone call as opposed to just sending an email.

Like you escalate to get what you need.

And you keep your bosses informed as you're doing that.

But when you built the habit of just, I'm going to ask my phone.

And it's going to do everything for me.

I haven't built the habit of just doing things.

That's why we got to do it.

I've been saying for a long time now.

Like I pretty much completely support the whole banning phones and school thing.

I just don't see how having a smartphone on you during class is adding to the experience at all.

It's not necessary.

It's actually, it's, it's really like holding kids back in a lot of ways, I think.

Because most kids aren't going to have the discipline to not look at it or to not use chat GPT

and all that stuff like Andrew and I were just saying, all right, let's do one more.

And then we'll go to break here.

Kindergarten teacher here.

Many kids come to kindergarten having never used crowns or pencils so that cannot or won't try to color trace draw or rights.

Really?

That makes me so sad.

How do you not like have your kids like coloring and things when they're little?

Are you just having them do it on the iPad?

They just have iPad now.

Yeah, but I mean like iPad baby.

You got to interact with the physical world, man.

I know this sounds ridiculous, but you're actually building chains of a long, like links of a long chain.

So when you're learning to do things, that can lead to other things, right?

You're teaching habit.

You're teaching how to move your fingers and manipulate things the way you want them to.

And you'll be delayed in that too.

Forget just the educational side of it.

I know.

It is a bummer and I just want to say like to all the great teachers out there, I am so sorry.

I wish things were different.

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On Friday, Dave will be back Monday, Rachel, Andrew, Kevin, all hanging out with you here.

We got Bernie McClus at 230.

Alvin Reed at three o'clock.

George May he at four o'clock.

And of course Dave Murray in his normal spot at three thirty today.

So pretty normal Friday as we go forward.

Guys, I spent a lot of the evening last night and it's not a real like big percentage of time, but it was quite a few tweets.

I was having some Twitter battles last night.

Fun ones though.

Like enough, I only do sports and stuff like that on Twitter.

I don't do anything serious because it's a waste of time.

But we're doing there was a lot of buzz in baseball about I won't get too deep into this because it's not really the point.

But a lot of buzz in baseball about how demonstrative like the Dominican team is and how much they celebrate.

And there are people that always want people to be buttoned up in old school.

There's always that little kind of culture war within baseball, right?

So it's all that.

It's just us going back and forth on that.

Not a lot of anger, just a lot of disagreement and back and forth.

And one person and I'm not going to name them because it wasn't a mean.

It wasn't a nasty back and forth, but I was really confused by this.

And I want to know if you guys think I should be confused or if I'm missing something.

Because there was a back and forth that we had about this very topic.

And I sent the message to this guy and I said, hey, listen, if you're not fitting the category that I'm being critical of,

well, then the message is not about you.

And the response I got was, but you responded to me.

And I said, yeah, because you replied to something I put out there that wasn't directed at you.

Like you weren't tagged.

It wasn't at this person.

It was just me putting a thing out.

You reply.

So then there's back and forth.

It was almost like you singled me out, but I didn't.

You brought yourself into the conversation.

Then I didn't get nasty after that.

I was just like, but you called me on the phone and I answered.

That's what happened there.

Was that his first tweet to you?

No.

Okay.

So he replied and then you said, well, it doesn't apply to you.

It doesn't apply to you.

And then he's like, but you're talking to me.

Right.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So it started off.

There were a couple back and forth.

And another person was there.

He jumped in and two cents.

And again, I didn't mind that at all.

It was fun.

It was a good time of going back and forth with baseball fans on it last night.

And there were a few of us going back and forth.

And then that's when I said the thing about, hey, if what I said in the original message

doesn't apply to you, well, then I'm not talking about you.

If you're somewhere, if you have a different position, that's not what I'm talking about.

And he's like, but you responded to me.

Like, well, you jumped in.

Like if you, if somebody calls me and it's like somebody I know, I'm probably going to answer it.

Right.

I feel like if I don't answer it, I'm almost being a jackass.

I think some, and I don't know this person.

But I think sometimes people just get very riled up online.

I guess.

The point where they're like, oh, I got to say something back.

You were talking to me.

It's like they're like panicking or something that you have replied to them.

And they don't know what else to say.

So then it comes out like just strange.

But yeah, I was like, do you want me to just not respond?

Yeah, that's a weird back and forth.

Okay.

So I'm not, again, this person was, it was not a negate to me.

It wasn't an, and like a negative interaction.

It was just like, I was confused.

Because we were just doing a baseball thing back and forth.

And as, and then, and there was some confusion about who was saying, well, and I'm like, hold on.

Re, rewind to the first, the beginning.

The beginning is where I started.

And if that doesn't apply to you, fine.

Then it's not about you.

You don't have to worry about it.

I'm not being critical.

And then we can go from there.

And it was just like a, I don't know.

I know it's almost like a, you started it.

But, yeah.

But, but the nature of replying to a thread is you're jumping in.

Mm hmm.

And it's okay.

I, we put these things out there for like this on, like to, to go back and forth.

Because that's the fun.

That's where you can have conversations as opposed to just say a thing and then never respond

to reply to anyone that replies to you.

I also think it's important to keep in mind that a lot of people are just not operating

in good faith.

Especially on Twitter.

So you're obviously coming from a place where you're like, yeah, but if it doesn't apply

to you, then don't worry about it.

Yeah, that's not about you.

But if you're coming into that situation and not a great place and you're looking for conflict,

like you're just going to respond with more conflict.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's why I kind of just gave up on Twitter because trying to have conversations

with some folks, it's like, I feel like I'm a decent communicator.

And like, I genuinely, I want to get along with people.

I want to find common ground.

I want to find like something we can agree on.

But then over time, I just came to the realization.

I'm like, there are just a lot of people out there who have no interest in that.

They just want to keep it going.

I had a Johnny Buncha numbers person who had some anonymous name with like 17 numbers at

the end of it.

Reply to me with an insult and then block me so I couldn't reply back, which made me laugh.

Man, somebody's a snowflake.

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