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ordinary. It bet 365 Hawks lose 4-3 in Minnesota to the wild, blowing a 3-0 lead, a 3-1,

third period lead, they go 0-5 on the power play. They are 0-0 for their last 22 over the last 8

games and they have not beaten the wild in their last 18 games. Since December 15th, 2019,

per our buddy Charlie Vermeliodis, other than that, long time ago. Yeah, just a very, very frustrating

game and it's not all terrible. They did play probably their best 40 minutes in some time here,

but you've got to hold on those last 20s and look, if you go over 5 on the power play,

you have no excuse winning a game. You should not have an opportunity to do that because

especially getting one in overtime and let's start actually in overtime, which is maybe counterproductive,

but we're going to do it anyway. Before you get that power play with 156 to go in the overtime

period, the Hawks had 0 attack mentality, 0. They had the puck in their own zone, they're skating

at half speed and then in the wild were saying, okay, cool, if you're going to play this way,

we're just going to attack you and take the puck away. That's actually what led to Matt Boulding's

penalty is he was being aggressive to a laxed asical Alex Vlasik, but you get the power play,

you get six shots on all you doke convert. That is the story of the game. Yeah, that's where it falls

apart. When you get out to a three nothing lead and you get out to a fast lead in the first period,

that's exactly what you want to have happen in any game, but especially on road. You needed

to have a start like that and we talked about it in the second intermission video we did for

sunny side. That's exactly what you wanted from this team, especially after the way that they've

played in the last couple of games against some really tough opponents. There have been those

flashes and the last game against the Panthers. They had some of those flashes, but then it just

fell apart. Again, tonight, if you could win a hockey game with 40 good minutes, this team would be

in a playoffs right now. Closing out games or starting games has been tough. Part of that is

talent-based. Part of that is maturity on the roster and a lot of still learning how to close

games is going to be something that this team continues to do, especially for a lot of the guys

that are going to be counted on to shoulder the load. It's going to be the young players move

forward, but that's not to excuse the veterans still have the ability to step up and lead when

they need to. In the overtime, not playing with the urgency of, hey, let's go out and get these

two points, getting to overtime. Not losing a regulation was a blessing the way that they were

closing out that game. You get to overtime, play with a little urgency. Go out there and

earn that second point that you should have had in the first place. Then you have the power play

in overtime and granted, they got a ton of chances. They did push once they got to that point,

but again, it's just, I don't know, it just seems like the power play doesn't seem like it's a

problem once they get set up, but it takes 50% of seemingly each power play just to get set up,

which is extremely frustrating. Yeah, if you're cutting every power play on half, you're not

giving yourself a chance to score it. Look, you're right. It's unfortunate that the wild scored,

17, 59 into the third period on a net front scramble where a puck just got away. The Hawks had

played a solid game, and I was even going to comment in the third, the wild make it 32,

336 into the third or 356 into the third. I was expecting the Hawks to fall back and not attack

and just wait to lose and they really didn't. They drew two penalties during that. They were

aggressive. They were attacking. They were putting shots on net. They did not back off in the third.

They score a lake goal. And then it's not even like you're going to lose games. You're going to

win games. I think overall, they played a solid game in this one, but they must find an answer

on the power play because yes, this team is young, but it's not just young guys making mistakes

in the power play. I don't know why the zone entry is such a mind crippling concept for this team.

If you watch the NHL night tonight, what 90% 85% of teams in league use that slingshot entry,

the dropback entry, but they're what I noticed in this one and maybe you agree is whoever the puck

carrier is, they're barely getting it over the blue line. And then they're either passing the puck

vertically or behind them. They've got to get into the zone. If they're going to carry in and then

drops to the point, they've got to do it deeper into the zone. They can't do it. The second

the puck clears the blue line because if you if your pass is off by a couple inches, it's offside

and you're back the other way trying to retrieve it again. It seems like these little

these little minuscule fixes, which change a lot of things, but for whatever reason,

they can't figure it out. They just cannot get out of their own way on these power plays. It is

so frustrating. It is the difference between winning and losing for this team too often. Look,

the penalty kills been outstanding. They only had one pet power play to kill today and they did.

So that's great. So that's kept them in games. But man, you're up three one. You get five power

plays. This should be for an average NHL team. This would be a five one win with those opportunities.

You'd think. I mean, look, if you you have five power play opportunities, I think league

average is like about 20%. So most teams, if you get five, you get five opportunities, you get one

goal. And that would have been the difference in tonight's game if they were playing up to league

average. I think the problem is twofold. One, it's execution of what they're what they're

supposed to do with how they're set up on the power play. It's the drop pass that then you try

and create momentum from the back end generating that speed through the middle of the ice into the

offensive zone. And then once it is into the puck carrier's hands or on his stick, rather.

And they cross the blue line. The play is to make a pass to one of your teammates either to

usually to the near boards. And then they go back across the ice or sometimes they chip it into

the guy who who originally carried the puck in into the zone because that's the person who has

the speed. Maybe they they, you know, a given go kind of thing so that they can go and chase it.

So that's that's what they're supposed to be doing, right? And the execution on the zone entry.

We saw it a bunch tonight. We've seen it in this old for 22 stretch. We've seen it at different

points throughout the entire season. It's not just isolated to the last couple of games.

But the guy carrying the puck gets the puck stripped. And then it goes back the other way.

You have to chase it and reset or like you were saying, they get it in the zone. But that first pass

is easily read by the defender. And they poke it out and they have to go back and retrieve it.

And we're doing the same thing again. I think when you when you have this kind of stretch going on,

and we've heard it from Blaschle. We've heard it from the players being more predictable to each

other, being more predictable in their system and being able to to simplify their game to get back

to the basics so that, you know, you can reestablish your foundation of play and then progress

forward from there. It it applies across the board, whether it's five on five, power play,

penalty kill, whatever it is. With this power play, it seems like the execution of the zone entry

is the problem. Blaschle has said himself the zone entries are the problem.

When you go through this kind of stretch, I think you have to just look at the execution of the

system that you that you put in place and say it's it's it's not working. They're not executing.

How do we bring back a little bit of simplicity, bring back a little bit of confidence on the power

play? And for me, for this team for the guys that are on the power play units, they have speed.

They have enough speed and ability to go in and chase a puck down and win a win a battle.

We've seen it. We've seen it here and there when, you know, when they get frustrated that they've

tried to enter the zone three times and it's been stopped that someone will just throw it in.

And then they go and get it. So I it's Mike Volucci runs the power play. I have to imagine he's

forgotten more hockey than I'll ever know. But to me, it would it would seem like that would be

what I would do. I would say, look, we need to get back to getting getting the puck in possession

when when we have the power when we have a power play because when you set up and have possession,

they're generating chances. So go simplify it. Have your first play be the dump in and chase. I

said it on the pre game show. Like when their power play is struggling, you can simplify it.

We've talked about it before. You don't have to play the fanciest hockey to get wins.

Nope. Look at every wild goal tonight. Yeah. It's it's it's a lot more fun to watch when you're

doing that, but you're not good enough to do that. So you have to play a simpler style. You have

to simplify things. You have to make things more vanilla and less, you know, chocolate. Sure.

Rocky road. Sure. Oh, this fish food. There you go. Chloe. Good job. Bubble gum. By the way, Chloe, fish is a

band. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's spelled that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I got that. Sorry.

We're talking hockey. No, that's okay. Just bring me into it and then just put me. You know what?

I did. I like to tell you, um, but to your point on the power play, yes, simplify it. Yes,

dump it in. But when they do that, part of the, like when they get frustrated and say,

effort, I'm throwing it around the boards and someone's got to go get it. The problem with that is

there's four black hawks standing on the blue line motionless with their thumbs in their butts.

Because they're expecting something to walk into the zone. So no one is in motion to retrieve.

So it's got to be we are abandoning carrying into the zone for now. Everyone is moving up the

ice with speed. We're getting the puck deep and someone is going and getting the damn puck.

Because right now, sure, sure, if you are married to this slingshot power play,

there's got to be more than one person in motion to make it work because you can't kind of

darken weave in, stick handle, head fake, everything you want to do and then put a drop pass on

someone it's standing still. It's incredibly easy to predict and defend because the wild are

just as happy to have therefore guys standing there to blue line two sand. All right, you're going

to stick handle through eight people. Right. Four of your own and four of us. Good luck. And we're

just going to stick our sticks out and allow and not allow it. It's a lot of legs and sticks and

extremities to have to. Yeah, exactly. It's a matter of a percent. It's percentages. Yeah.

You're not going to get the disc through, you know, 36 combined feet of person. It's just

not going to happen. Like it's just not, it's, it's a poor strategy. And again, if you are

insistent on doing it that way, the puck carrier has to continue into the zone, not immediately

ditch the puck when the very, very tip of the puck reaches the blue line. They're moving it

immediately. And it's not going to work. It's not going to work. It is so incredibly frustrating.

All right. Well, we've got to give out game pucks.

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Yeah. I'll give one. Can I give out two? There's no rules here.

There's no rules here. I'm going to give one to

table, Tara Vinen, getting the goal on his first shift back. Yeah. Welcome back. Welcome back,

table. Boom, boom, boom. The other puck, I'm going to give to the black hawks moms who got the team

fired up before the game. Nick Flino's aunt, Nick Flino's aunt, and I think it was Frank

Nazar's mom and Oliver Tuesday's mom. They did the lineup and everything pretty lively. So that's

a lot of fun. So yeah, I'm going to give it to the moms and mentors and table, Tara Vinen.

I'm going to give mine a counterpart, despite the mishandle on the shootout and a couple mishandles

on the power play kind of a dart in 2350 at eight shots on goal in 11 shot attempts. Not for

lack of trying. I also had two hits. Good. Including a big one behind the net, behind the wild,

that were a chase down rebound or a dump in camera, where it was and delivered a check to take the

puck away. He needs to clean up. We've been talking about this since his return. Some of the bad

habits he's had over the last over the first two years of trying to stick handle through everybody

win one versus three. So those aren't working. He's trying to do a lot, but a line of an assist

and 11 shot attempts, including eight shots on goal. More often than not, he's going to have

multiple point games with that kind of an output. And I don't know how that late shot did not get

through. I, yeah, I don't know if it hit. I think it's kind of a dart had a half of a goal for

every goalie's knob. He hit. So to speak, he probably have what 10 more like it seems like. Yeah,

it's he has some of the worst luck. Just the infractions of inches that he misses shots by his.

Yeah, it's crazy. But I mean, I still don't doubt his ability because he has that ability to

shoot the puck the way that most guys can't and be able to try and pick corners that others

wouldn't be able to have the angle on. I trust that those will start falling for him because it's

it's it's all learning process. And I see a lot of people saying celebrity and blah, blah, blah,

that's the shirt, which is fine. There's the celebrity is a great player. The darts.

It's the same that Kyle Davidson skipped over back on celebrity. It didn't draft him. Yeah,

with the second pick. Um, it's not available when they've paid. Uh, but I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

counters going to be just fine. I'm not, I'm, I'm really not worried about him. Um, because we've

seen it. We've seen it this season. And you know, he's, he's had injuries that he's dealt with and

come back from and maybe he's still not 100%. That could definitely be a, uh, a factor playing,

playing in here, but we're one week from the Olympic break. And he's not going to the Olympics.

I can't, I can't, I don't know what you're looking at. Just read the, read the, read the top of the

chat. What? Okay. I have whatever. Um, I don't want to be around anymore. So we're late for the

breaks. Yeah, what was my point? I don't know. Connor is going to be fine, guys. I just need,

he's going to get a break with the Olympics. He's not going with, uh, Hill rest up. Everyone's

going to feel rested except table, uh, and it'll be fine. Holy Lord. Okay. Uh, I'm going to go have a

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All right, we're back on CHGO Blackhawks and I only had two minutes so I can get the whole bottle

down, but it was a pretty good effort. I mean, you got about 80% of it. Yeah, no,

counter-designing time and a rock for you guys. It'll be right. Yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah,

look, I think so so obviously we're all frustrated about the result and how we got here.

But I think you know, you want to zoom out a bit the last four games, right? Tampa, Florida,

Carolina and Minnesota. Those are all teams that should be in the playoffs. I know the Panthers

aren't right now, but yeah, I'm not counting them out of anything. But those are all really

stacked talented teams, much more talented than the Blackhawks. And in a roundabout way,

you got four out of eight points in that stretch should have been five, I think tonight.

And you know, I look at that and I'm like, if you had told me before they played these four

games that you'd come away with four points, I'd be like, okay, two and two. That's I'm cool with

that. If there's some over times in there, whatever. And I think the way that you've seen them play

in some of these games, four certain stretches is encouraging. And I think we're as much as we

all want to be instantly gratified with, you know, the young players being here, oh, they should be

superstars right away. It takes time and this team is not even close to what it's going to be

or what it's supposed to be. We're going into, you know, another trade deadline where the Blackhawks

are going to be sellers, regardless of position. I think Kyle Davidson has said that and is going

to be sticking to his plan and everything. So, you know, it's going to open up more opportunities

for younger players to get into the lineup as we get into the final stretch of this season.

Whether that's Anton Frandel or Nick Lardis coming back Kevin Kurchinsky, Ethan Del Mastro,

Sam Renzell, all having opportunities. We might see Sasha Boa there.

Potentially AJ Spellis, the American actor, like all these guys could have opportunities to

finish the regular season in Chicago if their seasons line up and everything. And like,

that's going to be the excitement. And then it's going to be a new kind of a reset of like what

the expectations should be because if you're adding more of these young guys in, yes, we're all

excited for them, but it's still going to take time. Like each one of these young players has a

different path that they're on and development is not linear and they need these lessons and these

times to grow their NHL game. And by the time we go into next season, it's going to be your

four of Conor Boudard. That's going to look like a different player than your three does and your

three looks like a much different player than your one and your two. The same can be said for

what's going to be Frank Nazar and Oliver Moore and even Alex Vlasik to an extent. And why

Kaiser's a much different player this year than he was last year. And Adam Levsinov is going to go

through development and all that. So it's trying to zoom out a bit from the frustrations of this

game or this week as it's gone on. There's still a lot that is untapped with this team. And

being where they're at right now in the standings, you know, the wild card is fallen out of reach,

even if it if you didn't think it was, you know, in the first place, it's still further away.

But the fact that you're above 50 points and it's not the final 10 games of the season is a big

improvement. And the fact that you're on nearly an 80 point pace when you haven't touched 70 points

in a few years is a big improvement and improvement beyond what I think a lot of people expected

the hawks to do this year. Yeah, I don't look, I want to be clear. I don't think we need to like

put the Paul over the black hawk season right now. I think that this was a a overall solid

game for them against a really good team. Blow lead bad power play bad overtime approach bad.

Yet they got a point like they were right there with one of the best teams in the league. We saw

some quotes rolling in here from Jeff Flashal. He says, quote, this is a V event.

Pope, quote, when you take the emotion out of it, which is obviously comma, we're frustrated.

The chances we tracked were 23 14 us. You're going to win that game 98% of the time. We just didn't

win it tonight. I thought that's the best we've played in a while to be honest. And I think he's

right. That's why the power play is so frustrating because you feel like if you could just get

back to being average, just get back to being average. If you're winning another game per week,

one game per week for the rest of the season, would there maybe eight weeks left?

Right. Give or take with the Olympic break. So with 16 more points, right? Like that's a

that's a big difference. And I really feel like that is what you look at the games they played

recently. A power play goal in some of those is the difference between win and loss. Yeah. And

that's like, I think when when we see people and it's not everybody, but when we see the

sky is falling, fire, everybody, all these prospects are buss. It's not translating for us because

we have seen, as you mentioned, these guys go toe to toe with the best teams and hockey lately.

Right. And the results haven't been great. And you know, that 40 game looks a hell of a lot worse

than the score was. It was a three one loss for all intents and purposes, right? They score an empty

netter. Yeah. Yeah. And then they get a and then they get a garbage timeable, right? So you

lose two one to the lightning who have won their last 700 games. You beat the hurricane.

You just shoot out in which you went over on the power play, obviously. Right. So, you know,

it's, they're there. They are hanging in and competing with teams that last year and two

years ago and three years ago and five years ago, they would not be hanging games with there. They

are in that messy blob of the middle of the Western conference. And let's be frank, when you lose

kind of a dart in Frank Nezar and the two of them for about a month combined, you're going to fall

behind and even with that, they're six points out of a power play spot. If I was to say to you,

playoff spot, thank you, power plays on my mind. Can't imagine why. If I said that to you,

on week one of this season that, hey, January 27th, the hawks will have a dart in these are

miss a month and are going to be six points out. Everyone in this chat, everyone watching this,

listening to this one said, you are insane. There is no way that's going to be the case.

And you would take it. Of course you would take it. It's just, it's just the, it's just the path

to get here. It has, it has been frustrating because it hasn't been the, it hasn't felt like,

oh, the plucky hawks are sticking around and all that. I think it's because they got off to

the start that they did. I think myself included. You know, it was, it was a thought of it's like,

oh, man, like maybe they're beyond a corner in the rebuild and development process that no one

expected them to be. And it still has to be a, it's, it's an 82 game season. There's a lot of

ups and downs and the way that they've gotten here with some of these stretches has been, has been

frustrating, but yeah, I think as you said, like in the bigger picture and the grander scheme of

things where they're at right now is, is well above expectation and honestly feels a head of

schedule with some of these players where they're at. Oliver Moore could have been a guy that played

the entire season in Rockford. Ryan Green was supposed to start the season in Rockford and he's

played the entire season in NHL. What we saw from Nick Lardis was really promising and, and he'll

be back. I don't doubt that at all. And we've seen growth from Adam Levchenov from the start of

season to this year. Like he's, he's a different player and he's getting, you know, better and it's not

a straight rocket to the moon of development. It's, it's, it's ups and downs. So I think you want to,

you want to be able to, you know, see it in the standings more often where you're getting points

and getting wins that you feel like you deserve. But that again, it's just something that comes with

time and maturity for a lot of these guys is figuring out the ways to close out games and the ways

to not let one bad thing turn into two turn into three. And some guys have been through that now and

you'd hope that those instances continue to lessen as time goes on. Yeah. All right. We got to hit

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All right, we're back on CHG. Blackhawks. If you missed it, it is the

Felineau bowl. And we have team Nick Lino face off. And yes, thank you with the Felineau face off.

And it's team Nick versus team Marcus. So we had Chloe have some fun on Photoshop because we said

they don't really look alike. So I wondered if Nick Felineau had Marcus's hair. And Marcus had

Nick's non hair. Would they look the same? And the answer is still no. We love you Nick,

but Marcus is more chancellor. But Nick does look good with the, with the blog. He is a little

zestier. And our own Patrick Norton said that Nick Felineau has a little bit of lance bass in

him with the blonde, with the blonde hair there. And I kind of agree. I can see that. So well.

It does look good on him. It will. Like the ball doesn't fit on Marcus, but the hair fits on

Nick. I do want to shout out though. It is very solid Photoshop work. You did some good

blending around the temples and forehead area. Yeah, you really wouldn't know from this picture

that Nick Felineau and Marcus Felineau have flip-flop hair. Well, I didn't, I could have made the

Marcus look a little bit better with the ball, but I wanted to make sure that it was

Nick's actual head. If he wanted to, he could rock the ball. He's just, he's a little more

tanned. I have a bit of a man crush on Marcus Felineau. If it's not obvious, it's, it's, it's,

it's like, when I have a man crush, it's like, man, I would like to look like that guy.

You know what I mean? It's not like an active attraction, but it's like, damn,

it must be cool to look like that. It's just a zestiness. Yeah. What's it like to be attractive?

Let us know in a chat. Yes. I would love to know. What is that like?

That's a, please. I have never known. Please enlighten us.

All right. So let's give this a like if you're attracted.

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Can you, let's do some super chats. I saw we had a big one here.

Thank you. It's from Adrian. Another 50 bucks from Adrian. Thank you very much, Adrian. We

appreciate you. Tough loss. Lots of missed opportunities against a really good team. This is not

a great formula. That said, I love the new lines. And that leads us in nicely to the top line.

Nazar Baudard-Tarovinen at five on five, 16 shot attempts for six against shots for 11 to three.

Expect a goals 1.36 to 0.46. How about scoring chances? 9 to 3. High dinger chances, 6 to 1.

And if you've been wondering what difference table tarivine and makes, that is it.

Because you could put Nazar and Baudard out there with Oliver Moore or Nick Lardis or insert

forward not named William McCabe or table tarivine in here. And they're going to get,

they're going to probably break even most nights on possession. When you've got table out there,

who is a really good, very subtle, smart defender, that's when you're going to see that line put

up gaudy numbers like they did tonight. Yeah. And he's a guy that can distribute the puck really

well. That's part of that hockey IQ or the mind for the game to see it the way that he does.

He's definitely got the ability to get the puck to those guys in ways that some other players

aren't able to do so. So I think that's an element that he brings that line. And we've for a while

talked about table playing with Baudard and only seeing it for a handful of games last season.

And Baudard playing with Nazar and only seeing it for a little bit last season as well. And now it

feels like you have Baudard's game evolved from last year. Nazar's game has evolved from last year.

Table is who he is at this point in his career. But it just feels like it's a better timing for

the fit for those guys to work out. And they got the goal on the first shift of the of the game

together for them. So that was that was good. A very untabeled like goal crashing the net. But hey,

sometimes that's what you need to do to score. And then yeah, like I just think like, you know,

you mentioned it earlier, Baudard had eight shots on goal. Like they were they were creating

they were active. They were the three forwards on the ice in the overtime with the power play

opportunity as well. So I'm excited to see a little bit more of that because this was a really

good performance. So the definitely going to run it back against Pittsburgh and let it bring

let it breathe for a little bit without Brian Rost who got suspended for three games.

The F is a Brian Rost. Don't do that again. Last time you tweeted that he had a million points

against the Hawks. Hey, James. James does aren't real. So I don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, slight NHL national aside, Patrick Kane tied a Mike Modano tonight. I'm not that for

the all-time leading US score. He will break that record soon. And we all discuss it thusly.

And the William Nealander flips off the camera thing. Is there a less important story in the world?

Who cares? You can why is this like finger gate? Excuse you. My favorite documentary.

Week you you and the NHL can get the same amount of fine now for giving someone brain damage

as you can for an obscene gesture at all the horror. I can't believe that the stupid league has

gotten to this point. And the discourse about it like, well, Richard, not representative of

hockey. Shut up. So terrible. Grow up. Cry me a river. The we'll take William Nealander. Yeah.

If Toronto, if Toronto, you can't tolerate the sake of willing. I'll take him ten times out of ten.

Well, someone's got to be next now. Now the Mitch Marners gone because he ruined everything up here.

Yeah. Now it's now it's so William Nealander's turn again.

Some of the Maple Leafs blow up and rebuild is going to be fascinating.

I was going to say, oh, and now the fact that the Department of Player Safety is going to handle

off-ice disciplinary actions. What could go wrong? Because they've been doing such a great job at their

their tasks and job before. Let's give them more. Like, not only does George Parris need to work more,

he's doing so great. And the one thing he's asked to do already now give him more on his plate.

I'm sure he's he's thrilled to have to do more work instead of just handing out BS fines and

no, you know, suspensions and non suspensions and all this crap. Yeah, it's it's so stupid.

All right, a couple other super chats we've got here too. We have a correction from Will Co-Lassa.

He says, obviously, Betsy doesn't need to be sent down. Just jokes, guys. We're all frustrated.

Didn't mean to drive you to drink, Jay. Thank you. It's too late. No, I actually did not drink any of this.

But will the fact that we thought you might be serious?

Kind of indicates you never know the tenor after box losses in this room. Sometimes. So we have

heard Dumber probably tonight. Um, Curtis, they're here every show. Curtis says, uh,

oh, they're not the only here doing losses. That's true. Uh, Curtis says two dollars would love

to see Padard and Nazar say it together. I agree. And I think they will for some time. Yeah.

Well, I want to Frank's shootout move was really sick. It would have been cool if it's like

dollars one in the net. Yeah. And he had also beat any of that between the like shot today too.

And Padard set him up really nice. It was just a little too deep in to get any real good shot

attempt off Frank Nazar is going to be fine. Imagine having the amount of skill to where you're like,

oh, shoot, I don't have an angle at this shot. Let me go between my legs and just try and go

bar down with it in almost four game within three foot of the net. Three feet of the net is crazy.

If I try to do that in a barely game, I tear my groin. Uh, Mr. E, Mr. E, Mr.

E 46 says lifelong Hawks fan in Minnesota. Why does it seem like the Hawks have replaced their

best versus the wild? It's because they don't. It's a great class. What did I say 18 straight?

It's, uh, the, the wild are 17 oh and one in their last 18 games against the Hawks. That's why

it knows more to the super chat there too. That's crazy. Uh, he said just like they do against the

blues. Ah, yes. Yes. Well, I feel like they, they don't, oh, it feels like they don't take them

seriously. Oh, no, I, I mean, they've beaten the blues since, since COVID. It's a good game today.

Like, let's make them one. They should have won the game. I, I don't even like

it is by definition a blown lead. But this didn't feel like a game where

they had a lead in Minnesota that's like turned on the gas and the Hawks could do nothing to stop it.

That just wasn't the case. The wild got two goals on the doorstep, net front and scramble.

So those are going to happen. Do you want to be stronger in front of the net? Yes. But those

pucks were kind of pinballing around everywhere and this happened to get sticks on them. So those

are hard to defend. Um, so yes, it is a blown lead. But again, the 60 minute effort, just like Jeff

Flash will said, was, was not really a huge issue. We're going to hear from Jeff Flash on

Freynas are hearing a little bit too as Chloe gets them ready to go. Yeah, I, I think the, uh,

was the Erickson at goal was the one at the deflected puck right in front. I mean,

that's a big guy in Joel Erickson at against Wyatt Kaiser who no disrespect to him. He's a scrappy

guy. He's a battler, but I'm going to pick Joel Erickson at to win that strength for strength.

But it's also in real time. I, where's the pocket trying to find that you're trying to type it? It's

not an easy play. Yeah. Um, especially. Yeah, especially Kaiser. I think had his

back to the shot. So like, he really doesn't really have a good sense of where that puck is.

He's just trying to tie up a stick at that point. Um, but yeah, I mean, like, like, we,

we talk about like trying to simplify things. And I know the, the play on that goal was a pretty

nice, you know, skating exhibition by Quinn Hughes, but it was a puck on that with traffic and,

and scrambles and rebounds and deflections happen. And, and I think like when you're

getting to a point where sometimes offense is, is your offense can be struggling this,

as we've seen with this team this entire season, is keeping it simple can all, can

usually lead to rewards. So the wild were able to do it in their, in their comeback effort tonight.

All right. We have, uh, Frank Nays, our post came. Can you just queue up the screen without a playing?

Like, if you just, can you show that screen? It's like a very ominous looking for Nays in the thumbnail.

We can see, well, you'll see the first, uh, you'll see the first moment. Just watch the first

second very closely. But how does field come on the short side of it? I mean, you could guess,

right? It stinks. But, um, no, I really liked our game tonight. Um, you know, just got to stick

with it throughout the whole game. And, you know, if we have a lead like that, continue to add

on to it. So I'm just working on it. Did you guys get away from the game at any point?

Like, did it, was there a stretch where you can guys point to and say, oh, that's what we did it?

Honestly, I don't think we got away from the game. I think, uh, just some, like,

sloppiness with the block or some decisions. But like, really honestly, I thought, I thought we

played a great game. And, uh, yeah. How did you feel like your line works tonight? It seemed

like you guys were generating lots of chances. I thought we played really well. Yeah, I think, um,

um, no, it's easy to play with. Two guys is a smart and skilled as them. And, um, maybe I had a

ton of shots. I was just looking at it like, I think we had the other seven shots. So, um,

a lot of great chances. Um, just get a, no, execute on that. So what's the power play? What would,

what do you think could be fixed or change to, to spark something? It's certainly been a tough stretch.

Um, I don't know. That's a good question. If I knew that one, I think.

We five for five. Does it become mental after a while? You start like thinking about the fact

that you haven't scored a power play in a while and then it makes it even harder.

I see. No, I think it's, we're going out there every time, like, trying to score. It's not like we

don't believe in ourselves or have, have any doubt about ourselves. It's, you know, we're going out

there full belief that, you know, we're gonna be able to score. And sometimes it just doesn't go

your way. So it's, you know, that's, that's life. And, um, you gotta work your way out of it and,

and dig yourself out of the mud and, and just keep going. That's shoot up move. It seemed like

you did everything you wanted to do on it. Yeah. Well, I got it through the right angle. It goes.

I know. Um, yeah, just right through the crease. I kind of feel like the way it's been for you

get all these great chances. You're making them happen and you just kind of come up here. Yeah. Um,

like I said, that could be life sometimes, but, uh, gotta get up and punch in the balls back. So,

that's it. Frank, this is a family show. That is a Frank Nazar courtesy of the Black

Hawks. We're going to hear from Jeff Flashle coming up after the break. Last chance to get your votes

in for our men's, uh, game day, men's health game pucks. We'll get that in. We also have not gone to

the friendhouse for a while. Collie, do you have time to get us a friendhouse graphic? All right,

we'll do that also in the show. Any more super chats? We'll knock out and send one or break. Yeah,

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All right. We are back on CHCO black box. I want to shout out calling for the awesome Photoshop work.

Well, that's not it. That's very good.

I mean, the the resemblance is uncanny between evil Frank and evil Kermit. That's pretty good.

That's for Lord Kermit. Really well done, Chloe. Thank you very much. That's fine.

We have a good question from Phillip who says, Jay and Mario, please ask Jeff about the power play

next time you talk to him. Dude, how have we never thought of this?

That's it. Hey, guys, I'm going to put it in my notes app. Ask Jeff about about power play.

Send tweet. There you go. Yeah. Well, we'll do we'll do that. We'll do that, Phillip.

Let's hear from Jeff Flash. We'll do that. Maybe he was asked about the power play.

Be sure to see the black box. That didn't seem like a collapse.

No, I was a three. Yeah, I mean, it's three nothing leads. It's, you know, a little bit unfortunate.

At the end of the night, when you take the emotion out of it, which is obviously

frustrated, you know, the chances we had between 23 and 14, not sure. You're going to win that game

98% of the time. We just didn't win it tonight. But I think the, you know, the thing you have

to do is, you know, I thought that's the best we played in a while to be honest with you.

So you got to go back and repeat, you know, you got to do it and get him Pittsburgh. We can't

feel sorry for ourselves because, you know, we ended up giving up a late lead loss in the

shooter. We got to learn from it and be ready to play similar on Thursday. Similar. It's kind

of a similar story in the home game against them. Yeah, it's played pretty well. Yeah, yeah, you

know, I was again, you know, probably and I thought in a second, we fed their rush a little bit,

momentum, you know, couple kind of immature moments. You know, I still think we're growing the

maturity of our game and in a couple of immature moments in a second. I thought in the third,

maybe that's just particular to the last goal. We got a little bit softer their gap,

allowed them to gain the line. Other than that, I was happy with a lot of things that we did.

I was seeing one power play go change, just things and that's keeping the attention for it.

Yeah, no doubt. I thought it was better. I will say that. Like, I thought we had more chances.

You know, I think we've walked away from other days where I just didn't feel as dangerous at all.

And I thought we had a good number of chances, you know, but when you have, I think we had five and

you have a four and three and over time, a full too many. You've got to find a way to score. So

those are differences and winning the losing games. And so, you know, we got to get that thing back

going at a good level. Like it has been at different times this year. But I do think, you know,

from a process standpoint, we're going to look and we're going to say, you know, we've got to get

six chances on the power play. Well, if you have six chances on the power play for a night,

you're doing good things. We just got again, find a way to repeat that.

What did you think of the first line? Actually, I thought, I thought that it was a good line.

It was a good line. You know, I thought, I thought, Betsy and Frank, I haven't seen them play lots

together. I thought they were really good together. I thought they, you know, they showed a lot of

skill. They kind of fed each other in good spots. They, they had a lot of chances. Obviously,

scored with turbo. So I thought that was a real dynamic line. I thought Dickies line again was

one of our best lines. So, you know, that's, that's good step in the right direction.

Crazy amount of shootouts lately. Is overtime just different than it used to be?

That's an interesting question. I started to see that read a lot, you know,

day to the day and overtime, the reality is usually you got to give a little chance to get a

big chance. You're not going to coach that way, you know, but, but I don't know, is it different?

I don't know. I sum up, some of her over times have felt like it's gone back and forth, but it's

almost like you need a mistake to happen for it to go back and forth. You know, and unfortunately,

when we, I mean, we made a mistake, they didn't capitalize. We couldn't like kind of transition

back. Otherwise, it kind of gets that going back and forth. So, um, yeah, you know, is it,

guys better at defending maybe, maybe? Oh, someone beat us to it and ask about the power play.

Damn. Next time. I was, it's interesting that he said that he thought it was better. And he's

right. It's, I mean, it generated six chances by there in house metrics, and that should be

enough to get a goal. You would think on. Was it on, he's saying of the five power plays six,

six like legit scoring chances were generated. Okay. Now you, so that's one per power play.

You'd probably want a few more than that because this is tracking 1.2 six shots on goal, six

scoring chances. Um, I thought they, okay, I thought they, I thought they said that they had six

shots on the overtime power play had six shots on goal. That's what I thought. But I don't think they

qualify as scoring chances necessarily. Okay. Um, the other thing that's interesting. And I think

kind of true is that he said like to get a chance in overtime, you kind of have to give one up

because you allow the other team to get a shot on goal. Another guy is going to crash. You get

the puck and you're four on two the other way. Um, or three on two the other way rather. Uh,

so one one or yeah, right. You're going to get an odd man rush. So that was an interesting. I never,

any kind of said like we're not going to tell him this, but uh, that's true. That is something I

noticed is over the sense of three on three started. Yeah. I mean, think about anytime, you know,

a game is in overtime has gotten to those chances. It's you go one way and oh, there's a save. And

now they go back the other way and lose like that's usually how the game gets broken open. Um,

I don't think that should deter you though from, you know, trying to be the team to try and

create the first chance without having to give up the first chance like, you know, playing with

urgency, like I would, I would like them to kind of have the mentality of just like, well, we don't,

if we don't feel like you're in a position where you have to try and counter attack, be the

be the aggressor. Uh, I just, I just think that part of that is can, can come with confidence too.

If you're not feeling confident, your urgency and your aggression and your attack mentality can

take a hit, but um, I think in a game like this where you, you had the three nothing lead at one

point and you get to overtime like you, that's a moment where you got to kind of, you know,

between the end of the regulation and overtime period, um, find a way to kind of, you know,

shake it off, buck up and get out there and, and feel like it's a new game when you go to overtime

because it is three on three. It's a different type of like the hawk should be like designed to be

great in overtime. With the skill they have up front, I mean, counterfeit art to be in overtime,

cheat code. You know, you think, yeah, and I think it'll come, but I, you know, I'm surprised

or not better at the three on three. Yeah. Well, I mean, most of their best players that you would

put out there at three on three are, they're young guys, they're, they're rookies, you know, um,

so it's, it's kind of like learning to play in that environment, but you only learn by experience.

So, um, yeah, I think, I think eventually this team, I saw someone in the chat earlier,

it was like, I miss one, you know, overtime meant it was Taze Kane and Keith and I was just like,

yeah, well, the, the plan is that it gets there. Three Hall Famers would be wonderful. The plan

is that, you know, at some point, when overtime gets here and it's bedard, nays our

Alevcionov, it feels the same or, you know, throw out whoever you want, but art and

Grinzel and Frontel or whatever, like it's, it's, you want to get to that point where

the three guys you have out there, you're like, oh man, this is a, this is danger zone for the other

team. I will as if this night wasn't crappy enough. There was some news from Rockford.

Tonight Drew Kameso left the game with an upper body injury and did not return. So we had a

wait to see what's going on with Drew Kameso. Fortunately, the Hawks have a million goalies.

Oh, yeah, they didn't just trade one. Oh, right. Yeah. Has he played, he's not played for San Jose,

hasn't he? No, he went to the, I think he went to the Barracuda. Barracuda. Yeah, we're

in for a while. We're talking about a few, we're saying, we're forgotten him. Yeah. Yeah, that's

not great. I saw his loss tonight. So that's tough. Hopefully it's nothing serious.

Because you don't want anyone to be injured long term, but he's been getting a lot of time down

there. So it'll be, it'll be a burgeonoy time again for the, for the ice hogs and, yeah, hopefully,

hopefully Drew's not out long and who knows? I mean, he's played a decent amount and he's played

pretty well at times this season. I know this recent stretch, he's been kind of been up and down,

but I think it's, you know, almost time for him to get more of a more than a one and done

opportunity up in the NHL. I'd be more than happy if it's, you know, post trade deadline or something.

You know, if Arvid Satterbloom doesn't have a stretch of really good games, I'd be fine with

Drew commas coming up here. So we got you could carry three goalies and just get him, get him into

the rotation and just do it for a bit and whatever, but I think it's getting close to time to figure

out what he's got in the NHL, especially since he's due a second contract. Exactly. All right,

before we wrap up, let's, let's go to the Fred House. We haven't done that in a while. I just want

to hear the song. All right, our featured Fred boy on the Fred, about Fred House on Madison. I

can talk was Connor Bedard, one of his eight shots on full 2350 of ice time. We talked about

how well that line played. If you missed it, they had a scoring chance advantage of nine to three

at five on five and a six to one high danger, chance advantage at five on five as well. So

really, really solid line night for the line of Nazar, Teravine and Bedard and Bedard with eight

shots of his own. Those are the kind of lines you want to see from Connor Bedard every night is

five or more shots, double digit shot attempts. That is a four mil for success for him. Yep.

So if I mean with the shot that he has, if he's shooting at that volume, they're going to start falling

100 percent. All right, we are going to be back tomorrow. What? Game day pucks. Oh, yeah,

the game day puck. I knew I forgot something. Do we have a winner? Who's the winner? I hope we

have a winner. Did you throw in slack? I didn't see it. No, I didn't. The winner is the moms.

Hey, the moms are the ones. All right. Well, can you can you play the video? I sent

I sent you a video in slack earlier. Yeah. To no, well, to the to the black hawks.

It's from the black hawks social media account. Yeah, I don't know if it can you just play it or

do you got to do the whole thing with the crediting? All right, well, go to the hawks social account

on Twitter. They posted the video of Nick Filippo's ants doing the lineup. It was pretty awesome.

Yeah, it's fun when they are able to have trips like this. I know in the pregame,

Mark Lazarus, I think, was joking with Jeff Blaschal about, you know, oh, you did the mom's trip

in January going to Minnesota and Pittsburgh. Why did you enjoy it? Give them the short end of

the stick or whatever, but yeah, I mean, it's it's always fun. I know for these guys to have

opportunities like this to be on road trips with with family with, you know, they do the moms trip,

the dads trip, the what moms and mentors, dads and mentors, you know, they it's how they how they

phrase it, but yeah, just really cool. I know each trip has its own vibe. Yes, from the from the guys.

But it's it's really fun to see them have this time. So unfortunately, they couldn't give them a

win on game one. Hopefully they do in game two. All right, better father, better husband,

better man. Go to game day, men's health, visit game day CHCO.com to find locations closest to you.

Like black hawks moms are game puck winners and a little fun fact here before we go. Did you know

the Tyler Bertuzzi, the Bertuzzi name comes from his mother. His father's name is Adrian

Gedgy and his brothers, Evan and Matthew Gedgy have that name. So Tyler kept Bertuzzi for hockey

purposes. Business which was smart. All right, we're going to wrap things up. What now? Let's

well, let's go to overtime. All right. So if you're watching on any of the fast channels,

go to all CHGO.com to finish wrapping up the show. We've had a number of questions in the chat that

aren't hockey related. Jay, you were missing from the pregame show. Yes, I was. I just wanted you

quit your job and went back to 6.70 for a day. And people want to know about that. So if you

would have wanted to enlighten everyone of the afternoon, you had back a trip. It was a six hour,

a seven hour. Yeah, seven hour tribute to the late Terry borers who passed away this weekend.

I worked, I worked at the score for 23 years. So obviously a lot of overlap with Terry and

Chris Tanahill and Mitch Rosen and Matt Spiegel asked me if I would come in and produce the show today.

I had never expecting that to happen. It wasn't even on my radar that would even be a thing I could

do. But it was very cool to be back in my old executive producer chair, but I got to say I've

got a ton of compliments on the show today. I didn't do any of it. It was all Chris Tanahill. I

was just there to sort of ride sidecar help him manage everything. Also, I'm, you know, a lot of

the producers there now are younger and weren't there for Terry. So they wanted someone there who

had an experience with Terry and knew some of the old guests we'd be calling having on the show.

But all the credit for how great that broadcast went goes to Chris Tanahill and Matt Spiegel.

I know Spiegel was very nervous about wanting to do a great job and he absolutely delivered on it.

Chris Tanahill is the best in the business. Just booked every segment, every guess I was just

there to facilitate, but it was a huge honor just to be asked. And Terry is a guy that I loved

and that everybody loved at the score. And we saw nothing but positive feedback about

the show today. And rightfully so, I mean, Terry was a beloved figure in town. And if you don't,

if you're too young to remember the Bores and Bernstein show, fortunately for you,

like all their great moments are on YouTube. I don't know. There's there's a couple people. I know

Kid Cairo is one of them, but there's a bunch of people that have just over time saved their

favorite segments and have posted them to YouTube. So you can just get in a wormhole. There's like

playlist made of them, like yelling at stupid callers or making Chris Ranjan the updates,

like crack off to the point where he can't do the update or just really funny segments.

And it wasn't just the funny stuff. It was the serious stuff, too, like the Penn

States candle. They locked it on that. And they, you know, Bernstein especially got death threats

about it because Penn State fans didn't want to hear anything bad said about Joe Paterno.

You know, so when it came time to be serious, no one did it better than those guys.

They are groundbreakers. Terry made the jump from the newspaper to sports radio. When that was

a very, very risky move. Right decision for him. It paid off big time. I just, you know, I cannot

be happier. We got to talk to Terry's widow Carol right before he went on the air. And she was

very emotional and very happy. We were able to do it. And shout out to Mitch Rosen for

allowing Dan Bernstein to come in and do an hour and a half on the back end. No questions asked.

Dan was great. He also did a really good job on his own podcasts.

Unfiltered. So if you want to hear some of that is great. And Terry was actually on

doing filtered podcasts a couple of months ago. And you could tell that he was not

doing great. Terry's a guy that's been through a lot of health issues. I said actually on the

air today that I think him and my dad had a lot in common in that way where it was just

ailment after ailment after ailment. And your body just gets tired of fighting after a while.

And you totally understand it. So a little bit of relief that Terry is not

suffering anymore after everything he's been through. But it was great to be back for one day.

It's really funny to go in there and it's like, wow, it's like nothing changed. You know,

it's the same people and you're like, oh my god, I knew everybody there for the most part. And

just right back in my old seat, it was very cool. And it's like Ryan a bike. So I very much enjoyed it.

Rhonda tells me I should go back. Thanks Rhonda. Appreciate that. That's great.

Anyway, thank you for all the kind of words. There were some other questions that were not

me related. Sam took a break from Forting with Chloe to say, what's the best ramen spot in the

loop or near the loop? I got to tell you, high five ramen is the best I've ever had.

It's right there on Green Street. It has limited hours and limited seats, but

usually when places like that, it's it's it's like a speaking good. Oh my god. By the way, worth it. Yeah.

If you like hot food, do not, I'm telling you, I love hot food. It's spicy or it's spicy. Okay,

yes, do not think that you're a badass and go for their hottest. You will leave fire shooting

from your butt. So just if you're on the fence, go the go the less spicy route. But it is

absolutely phenomenal ramen. They've got this frozen drink. It's like a cherry slushy cocktail.

It is unbelievable. I might as well give out their address. Maybe they'll get in touch with

you and give me some free ramen. Yeah, I mean, it's it's at 1112 North Green Street. It is

actually, if you go to Green Street, Smoke Meets, which is on that cobblestone walk right there,

there's a tiny little unmarked door that has like a hand print on it. That is high five,

you had to kind of know it's there. You got to give it a high five. Yeah, it is an awesome,

awesome place. So that's my favorite. But I mean, you're in Chicago. That's going to be good.

It's a cuisine. I haven't really dove into is ramen. Real ramen. Not the 50 cent packets you

get at the store. And you know, I mean, that's that's all very, very good and got me through college.

But no, like the like the traditional around, it's just not I feel like it's something that I

would really like as long as they have rice noodles. They should, which they I think they would.

But just sometimes I've never been like, like, oh, we're going to go out to eat. Oh,

I'm going to go to a ramen. I should though. It always seems like it's, you know, noodles and

meat and veggies and just in a bowl. It is something over the last couple of years I've I've gotten

into because it is a little bit intimidating because like, I don't know what show you is. I

don't know what right. Yeah, if you don't know, yeah, but if you don't know what it is,

you're kind of scared to try it, but honestly, it is a it's soup. Yeah, yeah, it is soup with me

and noodles and it's it's absolutely amazing. I give it's high five. I get the Tom Katsu ramen,

which is pork and miso broth with sliced pork belly ramen noodle season egg black garlic oil. It's

great, but everything there is wonderful. But there's a lot of good. There's a lot of good ramen

places around. Um, but he was Tom actually suggested a place and see if I can I won't be able to find

it, but there's one not far from from here. I think it's called Nico. Um, not meko ranting. Oh,

just one K. Uh, I think is what it's called here on, uh, on Madison Street. Um, oh, yeah,

with it. It's got an art. It's the old Charlie's chili. Yeah. Actually, yeah. Yeah. Um, many years

ago, but yeah, I mean, it's always seems like there's a lot of our Y O T A. Oh, what am I thinking?

I have been there. It's a 13 11 11 31 West Madison. Yeah. And the one other one I was suggested

is Guro, G Y U R L ramen, 171 North Aberdeen. So there you go. And those are all in the West

Loop area. Yes. All wonderful places from what I understand. Okay. One more thing. Yes. In the

pregame show, Matt has meek said, he wants to give you guys this media book with a bunch of stats

from the 2015 cup season. So he's asking, how does he do it? I didn't see that. Uh, we can get

the address. We just give the address. Is that safe? I feel like you're doxing us right now. Yeah,

I just put it out. It's 1143 West Rendell Place. Yes. Yeah. A 60607. Is it code?

In Chicago, Illinois, 6767. No, it's not that it's not 67. It's 60607. It's a different number.

I will say too, by the way of our ramen. Don't just force it. It is the first time in my life. I

have had a hardware, software leg. Really? I like eggs. Hardware had it that way. It's because

damning Neil at the score, he's spring hard boiled eggs in. Yeah. And he would peel them in an

open them and the yolk would be like blue. That's a, that's a party fall. And it would smell weird.

And I'm like, I can't, you can't shell them on, on site. You got to do that at home.

So if it's soaking in ramen, I'm like, all right, it's pretty good. It's pretty damn good.

But I always, I was the same way. It was, it took me a long time and a lot of maturity and

adulthood to try hard boiled eggs in any fast, a facet, um, fashion, fashion in any fashion.

Um, but now I, I, I really like it. I won't still won't do deviled eggs because it's just,

and no, it's, it's pushing it for me, but a nice hard boiled egg, you shell it, you crack it

open, put a little salt on there. I'm a big texture person. Yeah. Like I, if I don't like the

texture, I can't eat it. So that, that's, that will be a whole, that'll be a hang up for me.

Yeah. But I'll try pretty much anything with enough nudging. Yeah. I just, I hate male.

And I know I'm mustard. Male and mustard. Yeah. I don't really like either separately,

but I like them together in a double day. Okay. There. I don't know though. All right. Anything else?

Can we get, could we just show the, uh, evil, evil, uh, Frank Nasar again before we go?

Because it just lights me. That's very good. Great job, Chloe. That right there is worth

hiring you from Denver. And then of course, uh, of course, we need to, we need to get a copy of that

for, uh, for next week and share it with his brother. That's good. Good stuff. Well, I'm trying

to think who we, I know you said Lance Bass trying to think what else, who else Nick looks like

with that hair. And I'm drawn a blank. Let's see it again. It's kind of, kind of like Bradley Cooper.

Oh, I see that. I can see that a little bit. I don't know. I don't know if I'm,

I feel solid about that comparison. I don't know. All I know is Marcus is definitely looking zesty.

So as Jay would say, Ryan Gosling. Oh, yeah. Only old. Ryan Gosling, but old. Yeah, I can see that.

Yes. Ryan Gosling is the same. He's just Ken. Ken. He was in, uh, what was that movie? Drive?

Drive. That's a good movie. That was a good one. Yeah. He's also in, uh, remember the Titans. He

was a liability at quarterback. 100%. That is. He's holding up a photo of Ryan Gosling from the

Notebook. Ryan Gosling. Definitely. That's like, well, you know, yep, he'll take that. 100%.

All right. Can we go home now? Any more random questions? Yeah. Malveg Monday. Let's go.

No, we're good. All right. We'll talk to you tomorrow at three on the CHG Black Hawks podcast. Thank.