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Fox lose 31 to the avalanche in Colorado. The only goal comes from counterbidard sound familiar. Yes, it is starting to sound very familiar to us.

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But here's where I want to start. Someone anyone. Please aside from counterbidard and Tyler Bertuzzi. Put a puck in a net. Somebody else has to step up and add some offense here. I'm sorry. Like it can't be those two guys every night. And that's what it's been lately.

Yeah, tonight individual scoring chances for for counterbidard on eight individual chances for for Tyler Bertuzzi. Individual scoring chances. All of them individual height danger chances for Tyler Bertuzzi.

Oliver Moore had three really McCay have had two. And then a bunch of ones, including McCay of doc or cops. Or I'm not a cave crevier. Doc tickets in green Berkowski, Tevo, Donato, so on and so forth.

So you were you were heavy on the.

Bedard Bertuzzi opportunities and I'd venture a guess that a lot of those happened on the power play or at least some of them.

Yeah, I mean, they need more out of the group as a whole. We talked about that on the pregame show with regards to Berkowski still being the third highest score as far as total points go on.

But the gap between him and Bertuzzi and Bedard at number two and number one on the list is widening. And I mean, yes, you need more from your from your depth group. That's for certain.

But as we also said on the pregame show like this, this game, even though the block Hawks scored first over the totality of the 60 minutes went exactly as you probably expected it to you're going to get outplayed outshot outscored against the abs. And it's just what fashion was it going to happen. So you want more from those depth guys.

You're just not you're just not getting it right now. And it's two games back from the break. You got to get you got to get your legs and they seem to find them for a bit in the third period, but you're just chasing the game too much.

You said, you know, you need more from your from your depth scoring. You need more from your not from your scoring period.

You count on Frank Nasar and you're about to start paying Frank Nasar as a top six score. You count on table, terrifying to put the puck in the net every now and again.

You even you paid Ryan Denado a lot of money because he scored 31 goals last year. And we can get into deployment. We can get into usage. We can get into all that and we're going to.

But two shot attempts for Ryan Denado. Jason Dickinson two miss shots. He hit the post on the first shift. That was great.

Um, table one shot attempt. And that's with a lot of power plays. Frank Nasar one shot attempt. These guys are invisible. And look, this is the Colorado avalanche. I understand that. And I'm not going to.

There's no need to get overly upset about what was ultimately they lost three to one, but it was an empty net or it was a one goal game against the best team in hockey and maybe the best regular season team we've seen in a few years.

They're absolutely a juggernaut the avalanche despite their awful power play, which I really don't understand.

Someone no need to step up. And I keep hearing about these crises of confidence from Burakowski and maybe Nasar or whatever.

Well, that's what the coaching staff's job is to do is to coach these guys out of these crisis of confidence as they're having.

And let's start with Burakowski because twice in this game, a game where you manage, I think the final was 15 shots.

15 shots on goal was the final shot, Tally for the Hawks. He botched a three on one in the first period.

He botched a four on two in the second, in the third period towards the end of the game. And you saw him after he made the mistake head down, stick on the knees, shaking his head, skating over to the bench, hanging his head on the back.

Even Andre Burakowski understands he should not be on the top line right now.

You can't preach accountability. You can't preach, earn it, earn it, earn it. Kevin Corchinsky, you're only playing eight minutes a night because you didn't earn it at practice.

When Andre Burakowski has been peddling down his leg for two months, he's got one assist in 15 games.

Where is the accountability there? And you could say, well, you know, we look at the analytics and it shows you played a really good game.

Great. That's wonderful. Go put up solid analytics on the fourth line and give somebody else a shot called Nicholas up here to put a puck in a net.

Because if all these guys have their confidence so shattered after a three week Olympic break.

Get it together. Let's go. Come on. Like have some swag. You guys are NHL players. You're paid accordingly.

Andre Burakowski is a multi Stanley cup winner. Get your head out of your ass and bear down and play hard and score.

I'm so tired of like, well, you know, they're lacking confidence right now. Fine. If you're 19, 20 years old, I get it.

Andre Burakowski's 30 freaking years old figure it out.

Yeah, I mean, it comes down to execution for these guys.

You you play your way out of a lot of the confidence issues that you have. And sometimes it's, yeah, that happens.

Yeah, I mean, sometimes it's when it comes down to the coaching staff, as you're saying, the idea of putting a guy in a position to, you know, thrive rather than survive is is important.

And I think that that's, you know, that's where the accountability comes in. So if you have a guy that's not executing and is making turnovers, clearly making bad plays.

It has to then be reflected in like until you figure it out with a limited role because we can't keep having you cost us possession cost us scoring chances, anything like that.

Like you have to you have to make those changes and towards the end of the season or towards the end of the schedule leading up to the break.

Burakowski was down. He was down on the on the third line. And we were like, hey, like that's actual accountability. But then when we got to practice of the break and coming out of it now, he's been back at that, at that top spot.

And I'd imagine for Blasio, the thought process is the green Badard Burakowski group had previously brought some success. So he thought, let's, let's work on some things in the mini training camp. Let's go back to that group and see if it can figure itself out.

And through two games, I would say, Pedard's been good. Ryan, he's been great. Ryan Green has been good. He's benefited from, from the break. And Burakowski has been the guy that he was going into the break, which is an issue. So I would really hope. And I'm not optimistic for it to happen.

In back to back games, but I would really hope that there would be some sort of roster tweak that reflects how this, how some of these players have, have started coming back from the break.

Burakowski specifically, like it just, it hasn't been good from him. So I, I mean, I don't know what they do with him moving forward. You can't keep rolling him out there on the power play.

And give him those opportunities if the play is the way to continue to be less than, less than ideal. You just, you can't do it. And it's not just him like the, across the board, there's, there's got to be some better plays.

Better execution. And then that's, that's what's going to get this group.

Out of the, the confidence slump, Conor Baudard shouldn't be feeling any confidence slump. He's been great coming out of the, out of the break.

The rest has been really good for him. Spencer Knight has had two good games that he's just served better from. He was really good today.

But other than that, like there really hasn't been, you know, Bertuzzi. Yeah, I'd say behind Baudard. He's been probably the best skater that they've had coming out of the break in these last two games. But the rest of the group has got to be able to, to, to pull their weight.

And you wander to like, you know, Nasar arrives on the scene plays really well starts to seal him season playing really well.

And now you wonder if the league where they said, okay, young player, you know, whatever. Now that he's made a name for himself a little bit, teams are starting to prepare for him.

They're starting to know that he's a guy you got to keep an eye on. He's a guy that will burn you if you don't stop him.

So teams have adjusted. They started planning for Frank Nasar. And really since then, he hasn't really been able to generate much on his own. And look, if, if Conor Baudard in him aren't lying, mates.

You know, he's going to need some help too. He needs some people on his line that can help him get some points, but he has to adjust. And again, this is where your coaching staff comes in.

This is where your development staff comes in. You've got to get to these guys and, and, and, you know, say here, okay, you came in. You are effective because you use your speed.

You are playing with confidence. You were playing fast. We know you went through a couple injuries, but you look tentatively.

You're being checked easily more easily than you were early in your career. And look, maybe part of that is Frank Nasar getting, well, he's been heard a lot though. He got heard of Michigan.

Right. So it's not like he's never dealt with an injury before. I just, I don't know where this is coming from from him, because I looked at the guy like Nasar and said, that's guy whose confidence will never be shaken.

And when you watch him play, he is not the same guy.

Yeah, I think there's, I think there is a, a difference between the confidence that you have in yourself and in your head, and a, and a confidence that translates on the ice, when you're, when you're fighting against it on the ice, like that's the physical side of the game that you're fighting against, which is half the battle.

Because if you, if you feel good mentally, you go out there and you're not executing, like you can feel good. You'd be like, I'm going to get the next one. And then you go out and you don't do it.

Like that's, that's one thing.

So I think for this group, it just comes down to limiting those mistakes, so that you get the physical flow of the game can match what we've seen from some of these guys where they have that self confidence.

So they have that belief in themselves. And I think that that is important to still tap into as you go through the struggles.

Because eventually you work yourself out of it, but it comes down to actually coming down to the execution of plays and, you know, making passes connect being in the right position.

You know, reading the plays properly. And, you know, sometimes it's, if a guy is struggling, you know, with puck possession, fumbling pucks, anything like that.

Sometimes it's just to snap them out of it. It's, it's a big hit or something like that. Like feeling like, okay, I'm affecting the game in a different way.

And I can, I can be, you know, effective. If I'm not scoring, at least I'm, you know, winning puck battles, or I'm, or I'm being physical in front of the net, or I'm, I'm positionally in the right spot to break up a play.

Like it's got to be something like that that can make those small snowballs go right in the right direction.

I've just not seen it from this group.

No, it's, it's real frustrating. Just for the record, by the way, a lot of people saying like, it's Colorado. What did you expect?

We're, we're, we know we're, we're talking more big picture here because it hasn't been just tonight since the offense has been struggling.

If you go back and look at the game logs of some of these players that they are counting on for offense, young or old, you can see that the offense has been dried up for a long, long time.

We're not just talking about today. A lot of people talking about Kyle Davison in the chat as well. We'll get to some of that. First, we're going to nominate our game day men's health and game puck nominees.

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Or visit gamedaychio.com to find locations closest to you. I think the two obvious ones are kind of a dart and Spencer Knight. You want to throw anybody else out there?

Uh, honestly, not really. Yeah, there's not really anyone that jumps off the page. I wasn't, uh, I wasn't impressed by too many other guys.

Um, tonight, I mean, I could, I could throw out Tyler Bertuzzi. Cause again, um, it seems like him and Baudard are the guys that you count on the most.

Six shots and count on the most. So two block shots. Sure. I will throw them out there. Sure. All right.

I think Jason Dickinson did survive literally being shot out of a cannon. He did. Um, he's had a rough enough day. It's not, uh, it's not involved him in this. Let's super Tuesday, Baudard and Spencer Knight.

And we'll tell you that Baudard one in about 45. It'll be one of those two. All right. We're going to hit the break zone for the first time. We come back. We'll get a little big picture here.

I do want to address some of the Kyle Davids and comments. Cause we're all not insane. That next on CHG Black OX.

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And from our buddy, a lion eye Mick G asking if Kyle Davidson is on the hot seat or is it next year basically said is Davidson on the hot seat next year.

I do believe for the first time next year is when he should start feeling some fair pressure.

Because you've got your first draft, you should, which was nazar, corchinsky, etc. You need to start seeing some tangible real results at the NHL level from those guys. And I think we've seen those from nazar to some extent, not from corchinsky.

And I also think it's important to see what happens this off season. Like you're going to have to get to the cap floor, which is going to be a challenge with all these entry level contracts you have.

Are you willing to move some of these picks for some help because this team needs help. And you heard, you mentioned it last show, fray nazar and counterpart.

After that big win over the blues early in the year, we're ready to win now. We don't want to wait. We're ready to win now. We want to win now. And they have hung around and they've stayed in the conversation for, you know, into January for the most part.

Or you could kind of squint your eyes and see them fighting for a playoff spot. It needs to be longer than that next year. They need to be in it. And.

So I do think there will be some pressure on him next year. However, people calling for his job or people saying they should, they should move on from him.

It makes me feel like you're not truly paying attention because realistically.

You've got a dart. You've gotten nazar in court and, you know, corchinsky, Lev Shinov is here struggling, of course, but he's 20 years old. Let's give him some time before we pull the plug on that.

But you guys are getting some results, but you've got.

Frontel the number three overall pick on the way probably this year. You've got a bunch more first round picks that haven't even turned pro yet.

And the pipeline. You're going to have another year of out of more nickel artists who we all liked this year came up and made an impact. So until these guys arrive.

And, you know, show what they are. And we're not going to have a full answer on all these guys for a few years. But until they arrive and show what they've got, it's, it is really difficult to make a call on, on, on Davidson, because this he did a full scorched earth rebuild.

So until the top lottery picks arrive and you see what they have, look, that's what you were going for. You were going to get the idea of a full blown rebuild is to get as many lottery picks as you can and draft them and draft them and draft them.

And then eventually they arrive at the NHL until they arrive at the NHL. It is hard to give a fair judgment to Kyle Davidson.

Yeah, when he took over and we went into the rebuild, it had to be a multi year process to restock the prospect system, which had been, you know, take ripped apart and failed in the in the previous regime.

And then, you know, you, you go through a couple draft classes, you restock that and then those guys eventually get to the NHL. And then at, at a certain point, you got to be able to find those moves and those players that allow you to add to the team beyond just the drafts because really no team is built strictly through draft picks.

And we've really only seen those moves from Davidson free agent signings trades that have been not moves that you would say are like, you know, flag in the ground kind of like this is a big move for the future.

Really, the only one has been Spencer night making making the move to trade Seth Jones to get a first round pick and night like that was, that was that one.

The Bertuzzi signing, I think we all kind of, you know, scoffed at first, but that's been a success and who knows how long it'll run.

He's got this, this year and next year.

He's got next year and the year after still on his contract.

So we'll see how that all, how about I'll translate. But you look at his draft classes. His first one was the court, Chinsky, Nazar, Renzel first round. He also added Ryan Green in there.

And those four guys were in the line up tonight and none of those guys have played over 100 games in the NHL. His next draft class was obviously bedard. He's at 195 games, but also all over more.

And Nick Lardis Roman cancer of was in that draft class.

Those are all guys that either have played in the NHL or basically next season will all be on the roster.

Go to the next draft class, Lev Chinop, Boaveir, Venacker, three first round picks, mustard, spell, sea, pridum.

All those guys are on the cusp of playing professionally. So, and then you had last year of draft class with Fran Dell and so on and so forth.

So you have a lot of those players that you've used to replenish the prospect system, have a lot of future cornerstone-esque pieces, you still have to find out what those guys are.

The only one that you're sure of is bedard and that was that was an easy one.

I don't think you could have expected anybody besides bedard to step in to professional hockey and be ready to go right away.

And even bedard wasn't like this version. This is your three years.

This is your three of him looking like this version of himself. So even stepping on the ice right away.

Like he was he was really good. It's really exciting for a guy we knew is generational for three years before he was even drafted.

Yeah, it took him three years to get to this level.

Right. So, yeah, I think as far as that phase of things, like it's still undetermined.

And eventually, yeah, wins and losses success on the ice is what needs to matter and that that time is coming soon.

But there's there's a couple different phases of a rebuild that is going the way that it has for the for the Black Hawks where they had to strip the team of what it used to be.

And move forward with a completely new group of guys like that's not overnight process.

No, so I and look, we've had this discussion on team times about Davidson and the rebuild and the process and patience and all that stuff.

And I get it. I get it from a fan perspective of I want to turn on my TV and I want to watch a winning hockey team. I get it.

It's it is hard to be a Black Hawks fan.

And in the last 16 years have experienced the success and the players that we have as Black Hawks fans and then have the the come down from that the playoff drought as it were.

And have to go through seeing the ends of the careers of all those guys that brought that success 16 years ago.

And not really have anything to reload right away. You didn't really have the infrastructure set up to where you could continue you could continue that type of success with the guys you had in house you had to restart.

So this is restarting that process and that Black Hawks team that had success 16 years ago also went through a process that took time to get those players into the system.

And get them acclimated to the NHL and get them to a place where they were successful NHLers and it wasn't overnight.

No, it's not and it is I think that we said this before to the the bedard arrival so early in the rebuild I think amp double a lot of people to expect immediate success.

I just think that you're getting what I'm saying is going to be pressure on him next year. I'll say this is a qualifier.

If he's not already signed an extension, he's going to. He's not getting fired. It's not happening. So if you're a hawks fan thinking that, you know, at the end of this year, Danny words is going to say I've seen enough and fire him. Absolutely not.

That's that's not happening because Danny words signed off on this rebuild to and understands the stuff we're telling you about is the reserves are on the way.

And you might see many of them this season yet. So he's going to get an extension because his contract is expiring after this year. He will get an extension if he again if he is not already signed and it just hasn't become public.

And he's going to get at least a couple more seasons to see this thing through. But I do think you're going to start to hear some chatter.

If Nazar doesn't finish this season strong. If you don't see Kevin Kortzinski make a turn at all. That's his first traffic. He's going to be tied to that one for a long time.

And you traded a lot to get those guys, right?

You got to start getting some results here at the NHL level and look, no one is saying that next year they need to be Stanley Cup contenders by any means.

But we need to start seeing some progress. And let's be we saw some this year. We have seen significant progress this year.

This team is going to finish with more points than they have in the last few seasons. And I know that that's a low bar to cross. But that's the that's the progress we've seen.

And the team has gotten younger year after year to year because of the guys that he's brought in. Right. And because of the direction the organization is going.

And it's going to get younger. That's the thing is next year's team is going to be probably younger because you're losing Flino, you're losing Dickinson, you're losing Murphy. And even if you fill in some.

You might lose that try is. Yeah, those are all those are all guys that are 30 or older. And you're going to replace them with very likely.

19 year old. And maybe another 21 year old. And another 21 year old. And like, yeah, like you're you're taking, you know, four roster spots and you're taking 40 years of combined age off of the roster.

Right. And even if you're going to be young, some vets, you hope they're not in their late 30s.

Yeah. You know, it's and I'm just I think that I think the pressure will start on him next year. If you think he's getting fired this year next, you're crazy. But I think you're going to start seeing a little bit of smoke.

If next year is like this year, there will start to be some smoker on Kyle Davidson. And I would think it's somewhat fair. And I would say.

And we don't need to have this discussion because we're up on the break. But if you if you fire Kyle Davidson in the middle of at not even the middle at the.

In the in the first few steps of a rebuild.

You very likely set the timeline backwards because you probably if you're if you're firing Kyle Davidson because you don't like how the rebuild is going.

Or you don't want to be in a rebuild anymore. You bring in somebody who's going to not operate in a rebuild mindset or not operate in the same way with the same players.

So they're going to go through the process of moving those players or trying to completely fix every you probably set the process back because

it's just not the league is not set up to trade and sign and buy your way out of problems.

No. So the teams that do that never succeed or yeah.

Like I think of one team you're like, oh man, all season champions that have gone on the win anything.

You can't do it. You can't do it in a one season process or an overnight process.

No. All right. We're going to hit the brakes on again. Hit that like button for us.

Let's get on to get back to this game a little bit because I do want to talk about what we've seen differently in the power play.

The last couple games because it has actually looked semi competent.

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Jeff Flash will spoke after the game.

They're probably on a plane right now to Utah.

What's here at the hawks head coach had to say after the three one loss in Colorado.

This courtesy of the black hawks seems like Conor has been producing so much these two games and just not enough offense for other guys.

Yeah, we need more depth scoring for sure.

I think we were close to having a lot of chances and we just didn't quite handle the puck rate.

We could have had probably three or four three on ones and we just kind of miss handled them.

That's just one of those things.

It's hard to use nothing you can do.

They're not trying to not handle them.

They just miss handled them.

I thought there was opportunities for offense there that we just didn't we're unable to take advantage of.

Overall, you can like last 25 games or so the offense has been a little bit down in what it was.

Is like overall is that a concern?

I mean, I know like last game there were a lot of chances and obviously opportunities tonight.

Yeah, we're just overall kind of thought on producing and creating more offense.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, we want to create more for sure.

I mean, I think we're at a spot where we got to get better at both sides of it.

You know, we want to create more.

We want to give up a little bit less.

I think we've done a better job over the last couple of games coming out of the break of bending but not breaking defensively.

You know, we've done a good job with that.

You know, even against a high-powered team night.

We certainly got some chances and Spencer was good, but I also thought we did a good job bending not breaking.

But we exited our own cleaner out of these own, which is a positive.

I just we do have to find a way to produce more more offense, more chances.

Like I said, some of it just, you know, comes down to execution.

Some of it comes down to, you know, we've got offensive guys that can produce.

They're probably not feeling it right now.

So we've got to get their confidence going.

And, you know, you've got to ultimately earn your confidence.

So they're going to have to grind through it here and find a way to feel good about themselves or the puck.

You mentioned Herakowski and, like, how he'd been good up until that team game stretched before the break.

What do you thought of his play coming out of the break?

And, like, is there any thoughts of trying someone else there with Tom?

I would say he let us in plus minus differentiation last game scoring chance plus minus differentiation led the team.

And I think he's probably going to be, you know, I can't, I don't know where he's going to fall tonight.

You know, at the end of the day, your game is kind of a result of how much you gave creative or so much you gave up.

You know, so he'll stay, he'll stay with Betsy tomorrow and we'll keep evaluating everything.

Do you want to present the courtiers' key to kind of focus over the game or today to give us timing over that?

Yeah, I mean, that's just the way it is, right?

Like, you're kind of trying to put them in spots to succeed.

And this is a hard team to, you know, to do that against because, you know, when McKinnon or that Nelson line come out,

like, that's those are, those are, you know, real, real top, top lines.

And so we're trying to put them in position to succeed.

And you have all those penalty kills and he's not, you know, one of our top two killers on that left side.

So, you know, I thought he played better as a game in the long.

I thought he got a little bit more ice time as a game in the long.

I thought he did a decent job.

He wins, wins out.

Sick.

Sick.

Yeah, right before the game.

All right.

There you go.

Looks like Andre Berkowski will stay on the top line tomorrow because his plus minus chances are the best on the team.

One assist in 15 games.

Make it make sense.

I don't, I don't, I don't know.

I have really, I really don't know.

And look, you can say, who's another option?

I don't know.

But somebody can surely, if their plus minus generation is so outstanding, can generate an assist.

Over the last, it's 10 games now without a point.

One assist in 15.

And 10 games without a point.

Yeah, he had a 33% coursey four.

I'll manage in this game.

25% shots four percentage in this game.

I mean, but he's on the line with the dart.

Look at five on five.

He led the team and scoring chances for one in zero.

And that's 100%.

Him, Grizzly can fling out.

But fling on the top line then.

Yeah, I just, I don't know.

I don't, I don't see it.

I don't see it.

I don't get it.

Whoop smack on the mic.

Yeah, you, there's, you have options to, to change it.

I, my, my, it's, it's, I guess it's our eyes and perception of what we're watching and what we're seeing.

Yeah, analytically versus what an NHL head coach is watching and, and seeing analytically.

I mean, I want to put like, you're there.

You've got the best seat in the house, man.

You missing just fumbled Andre Berkowski in the third period showed you.

He's like, I don't know what to do.

I would, I'm broken right now.

Take me off the ice, please.

I would absolutely give some run to somebody else.

Bertuzzi.

Donato.

Davo.

Somebody I'd be, I'd be fine changing that up and, and, and trying something else.

What's the worst thing that can happen?

One assist in 15 games.

No, no, are they going to lose?

I don't know.

Um, yeah, it's.

And, and, and like, I, like I get the like creating chances.

Like that's.

You can have a guy that creates chances.

But how many chances don't even get a chance to be created because of, of, as he said there.

And that's not tracked.

Yeah.

Unless it's, unless it's, unless it's a giveaway.

Which is a giveaway is also a, a very relative stat.

And if you do it on the road, they're more likely to credit that as a takeaway.

Cause giveaways and takeaways.

If you look at the end of the game at the statute, they're not the same.

Yeah.

It's, oh, he took that is opposed to, oh, he coughed that up.

And the home scoring is always, almost always going to tip that towards the home player.

I, I don't know.

I just, look, I still believe that he, there's a good player in them.

We have in Burakowski.

We have seen him be good this year.

He is.

Yeah, he is still the team.

He was a core, but better version.

Better version of, of himself.

And he just hasn't been that guy for a while.

The guy is begging you to take him out.

He is begging you.

He is showing you with his body language that he is not feeling good about his game.

And if you want to keep him on the power play, fine.

Maybe we've had Ryan Denato play on the fourth line and the power play.

Right.

Yeah.

Maybe that's what, maybe that's what can get his confidence back is.

Look, you play him 13, 14 minutes on the third line or something.

Hopefully he finds his way out of it.

You play him with defensively responsible guys.

So the mistakes don't seem so glaring.

That's one of the power play starts to feel better about things.

He's not looking at the game log of 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0.

Right.

Like, and okay, I'm back.

I feel better.

Right.

Let me get back out there.

Great.

Great.

At his best.

When Andre Burakowski is playing at the level that got him the contract he got,

he is a top six player.

He's effective.

We said early in the year.

He is probably the best consistent line made that, that, uh,

played with.

And I think that's true.

He's just currently broken.

And just if, if something isn't working, you don't just keep rolling it out until it starts

working because he doesn't do that with anyone else.

That's the thing is it's, it's, it's not, it's, it seems like it's only Andre Burakowski.

The, the rules that apply to 28 don't allow, don't, you know, don't apply to anybody else on the team.

Yeah.

And as a teammate, that's got to be frustrating.

And look, I don't think guys are behind the scenes like, God, this guy sucks.

He's really causing his games.

No one's really playing that great aside from the dart.

No.

But like, it's got to be frustrating.

And look, I think when Conor Burakowski said after the game against Nashville,

when he was asked about Ryan Green, he kind of threw Burakowski's name in there,

because he probably knows that Burakowski isn't feeling great about his game right now.

And he's trying to help him along a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, those, those guys are going to prop up their teammates no matter what.

Like, that's, that's, that's like a hockey player thing.

Like, they're going to, and yeah, to your point, especially if a guy, you know,

maybe feels like he's struggling, having a teammate prop you up in that, in that sense,

can, can, can help for sure.

But, yeah, I mean, I just, I, we've, we've seen, not, you know, we, we've seen this,

accountability thing play out before we've seen the, the veteran versus young guy thing play out before.

I just, I, I just think as far as like on ice, play, like you said, the body language is, is pretty evident.

Like, and Blaschle too, has talked about body language and how he, how he sees that from other players.

And yeah, I just, I just, I just feel like they're, they're going to go into tomorrow's game.

Very likely the same lineup.

We'll see if Sam Renzell is healthy, um, solder, bloom, will start.

But, yeah, I just, I, I feel like you, you have enough of, you know, a pile of evidence from the games leading into the break,

and the two games leading coming out of the break, that you can, you can go back and look and be like, yeah, man, like,

I, we had some rest time, we had some time to work on some things.

And it's, it's not like, you're still doing the same stuff.

Well, I was able to react to that and, and, and, and operate in that system.

The power play looks better.

There's no doubt about that.

The zone entry has been better.

And as we said all along, even when the power play was over a million, um, that once they got set up, it was okay.

But by the time they got set up, they were gas because they were chasing the puck for a minute 20 before they can get the puck into the zone.

They've been getting in better.

They scored a power play goal in two consecutive games since the break.

He mentioned the defensive breakouts, which I, I agree with him.

I think they have been better at even strengths.

Um, you know, either from along the, the backboards of the wall, or through the neutral zone, overall, they're making better decisions and executing better.

But then there's a mishandle, or it's like just off the mark a little bit.

So we are seeing incremental little improvements.

And like everyone has said in the chat,

it is hard to judge how your young team is doing against the Colorado avalanche.

It's not really a fair comparison.

So tomorrow against Utah will be a better idea than Cooper will be a better idea of what these things actually are looking like and turning into.

Um, yeah, Winnipeg was a Tuesday.

Yeah.

So there have been some.

It's okay.

There have been some improvements since the, since the break.

They haven't gotten results from him yet.

And that's the frustrating part.

Uh, I want, we got to talk about Kortzinski too, who Sam Renzell sick, um, came into the game played 756.

Uh, Kortzinski came in for Renzell, by the way, 756 of ice time had to hit, uh, credit with three giveaways, a takeaway and a block shot.

He was on the ice so little that it's, it's almost impossible to glean too much from his game.

Yeah.

I saw a really nice takeaway from him.

Uh, in the third period made, made a nice little play to take the puck away and then clear it, uh, you know, advanced the puck through the, uh, neutral zone.

Um, but there's just not, it's just, they're so little.

That he was on the ice center.

It's not a ton of evaluate.

Yeah, I, I think you need to, um, give him more of a look if you're going to figure out what you got them.

Um, I, I think if you have a player, uh, if you have a situation where player comes in, comes to the ring before the game doesn't think that they're playing and then has to prepare as you are playing.

Sometimes that can be a challenge.

Um, so you don't throw, uh, as we said in the pregame, you don't throw them to the wolves and play them 20 minutes against the avalanche in a game that he wasn't thinking he was going to play.

Yeah. Um, but I mean, that's, I mean, that's, that's professional hockey. You got to be ready to go.

Um, but, you know, looking, trying to, trying to glean something from it while he was on the ice at all strengths eight minutes, 24 seconds.

Um, he was outchanced, outshot, but expected goals for with him on the ice point one, expected goals against point one, too.

Hey, so jump to 24. Look at that. Not, not far away in the expected goals for and against, uh, category. Yeah. I think for as little as it was. Um, but yeah, I mean, I, I think, and I'm not, I'm not expecting him, like I said, like, unless Renzels, whatever's making him feel sick, lasts into tomorrow.

I'm not expecting Kortzinski to be in just based off of how Blaschold kind of seemed, um, talking about him, like, even pregame, where he was just like, yeah, you know, working on his, you know, working on his game, being, being here with the NHL group is a positive, um, talking about like development isn't just plain.

You gotta play at some point. So I'm still thinking that the plan is, you know, maybe not necessarily having to give him a bunch of minutes until, you know, we have a Murphy trade.

Yeah. Um, but still, like, I, I think because he's here, the anticipation is just like, well, play him. Like, he's here, play him. Like, that's what we want to do with all the guys, the young guys. Um, but I think it's, you know, the time has come in. This was an opportunity to give him more minutes, but I understand can understand the reason for Blaschold not giving him a ton of those minutes.

Plus you had, um, you're trying to stay in the game, you know, you were trying to defend as much as you could. And even if fortunes, he had been in a streak of playing, you know, 13, 14 minutes a night, this game in particular, where you're protecting a lead, you're trying to keep the game tied, you know, he's probably not going to get a ton of ice time anyway.

Right. Up more, even maybe down more Kevin Kurchensky will play a little bit more, a couple of super chats. I want to make sure we get to before we wrap up the show, one from Madhouse Meek, who says, can you guys explain the Kurchensky situation, a HL things, he's an all-star, but played five minutes. How do we know if he doesn't play feel bad for him? I don't know. Thanks. It's what we're just talking about.

But as we said in a pregame show, if you missed it, he's, he's just got to get more of a look here. He's an RFA. He needs a new contract. I don't think there's any fear of him, unless they treat him, leaving the organization. I don't think you're going to just walk away from him, but he is an important piece of this rebuild and they need an answer on him because it changes draft plans. It changes draft strategy, because as we, as we've said before, what was an organizational depth and defense.

They're all here now, except for Ethan Del Maestro. All the defensemen you see as NHLers in the future, aside from, you know, stage hardening maybe, come be down the road, maybe NHLers, Thai Henry, maybe down the road. But none of those guys seem to me to have ever been the prospect level of the guys that are here now. So if Kurchensky is not a guy, you think you're going to be able to count on and things are going to be part of things.

You might have to draft the defenseman earlier than you want.

Yeah, and I mean, the rebuild part of the rebuild plan and the reason you have so many picks for so many years is that you want to have those players that you can cycle through.

So if you have a ton of defensemen that are now playing professionally or the majority of them are playing professionally and they're a lot of the guys that you expect to be part of the group, that's all well and good.

You also need to have the next guys up kind of mentality. So if you, if you have a guy that's not fitting that bill, or you don't have anybody that you feel like you can reload with down the road, you have to find somebody like that.

I'm not saying necessarily it's this draft class, you know, getting Keaton Vera offer or whoever as a first priority, but you have to think about it eventually if those guys that you've kind of banked on.

Either a don't pan out or be like you have six defensemen that are all under 26 or whatever, it's just like, okay, you can roll with that for a bit.

But you still need to have more options and you also need to know who of that six is going to be legitimately a top air guy.

And I think that's obviously on the table for left and off.

Aside from that, I don't know.

We're trading players for a guy who's not draft eligible.

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So shout out to the troops.

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Adam Lowry for a veteran defenseman.

A little old, but has grit.

Uh, that's the thing that was like you, you've got to answer your questions here about these young guys.

You have to look.

Okay.

And I'm answering is why are the Winnipeg Jets trading their captain who's not washed?

I mean, that's my first question.

Yeah.

I think it's all.

It's, I think I heard, uh, Elliott Freeman talking about this too, where there is a little bit of a belief in Winnipeg where they're like, this was a weird year.

There's no need for us to panic and completely blow this thing up.

They're not getting rid of it.

Um, I think I don't think the Jets are going to be a team that goes full fire sale.

Um,

but I, to me, if you're bringing a veteran, it's got to be a needle mover.

It's got to be someone that certainly improves your team.

No, I'm not saying Adam Lowry doesn't make them better, but I'm saying like a significant jump.

He's big.

He is big.

They need size.

He's 32.

Big.

I look at him, Lowry.

There's no doubt about it.

Yeah, I would like Adam Lowry.

Um, a few years ago would have really liked it.

That would have been great.

Yeah.

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Do we have that question teed up there?

The one about the avalanche we talked about if in five years could the hawks be like the avalanche.

Uh, yes, from Kevin Hanon says,

you'll think we will ever in the next five years be like the Colorado avalanche.

I mean, five years.

The avalanche are really, really a juggernaut like best team and hockey.

You have, um, you have a landascar.

It's been in McCarr.

It's that's three guys that have a all the fame resume.

You have you have three guys that will be in the conversation for Colorado avalanche Mount Rushmore.

At least.

Yes.

Um, it's only four on there.

It's so sackic.

Nature's.

Fortburg.

Wow.

McKinishkin.

You had ranting in for a while.

Like this, that it would require.

The height of the avalanche.

Um, would require.

A lot of these young guys that were that we're talking about in five years.

Being, let's say, dark, be 25.

Um, you know, nays, naysars, 26.

Levchenov is 25 in five years.

Like these are, that would be guys in their primes.

You, you, you, you hope that these prime players are guys that are in the conversation as top of the NHL as they're at their position.

And looking at some of them now besides Bidard, you might have a hard time seeing that.

But these are again, now bring it back to present day.

These are guys in their 20s.

Just now in their 20s.

Can't buy a beer yet.

And, uh, like it, it maturity development takes time.

And, you know, Bidard, like we said, took two seasons of him to kind of figure out how to be more effective in the NHL.

And we're, we're seeing it with the rest of this group, these young players.

So, you know, a few seasons of turnover like that.

Then, yeah, maybe we're talking about a team that's, uh, you know, pretty competitive.

Are they going to be best team in the league in five years?

I think that that's optimistic thinking.

Be wonderful.

They should be a wonderful cup contender.

It would be wonderful if you have mid 20s of naysar, Levchenov, Bidard, Frandel, go down the list.

And they're all hidden on every cylinder that you want.

If you have that, then yeah, you have one of the likelihood, one of the best teams in the league.

Well, that's the, you know, that's always the gamble with a rebuild is how many of these lottery tickets are going to hit.

And if you want to talk about the avalanche, you want to talk about the black hawks cup teams.

It was hit after hit after hit and camberker and hit after hit after hit.

Right.

Right.

But like, and you were hitting in rounds that don't even exist anymore with Dustin Buflin.

And, you know, you were able to sign Mary and hosted like everything kind of came together.

And you look at, I always think about the San Jose sharks that align with the hawks.

Like that team probably should have won a couple cups.

Those connox teams probably should have won a couple cups.

They were everything worked out.

The sedans are Hall of Famers.

They built a really good team.

Joe Pavellski, great.

They traded for Joe Thornton.

They had everything they needed to win a cup and didn't do it.

It doesn't mean the approach wasn't right.

It doesn't mean that the rebuild didn't work.

If you want to call it that, it just means that they ran into a couple of teams that were unstoppable.

The Anaheim ducks should have probably had at least another cup that they could have had in their run with the, you know, the Getslav and the Perry group.

And I know that they did win a cup in 07 with those two guys, but they were rookies.

And you know, think about that 2015 Western conference final.

How good that team was like, yeah, like there was a lot of really good.

There have been a lot of really good teams.

That have that have fallen short.

That the Bruins dynasty of the mid 20 of the 2010s had one cup in three trips.

Right.

Like it's hard.

It's hard to do.

Can you scroll a little bit?

There was a question I saw, but I forgot about it already.

Oh, Black Hawk Bob said the I talk is really the second worst team in the HL.

So that's promising.

Everyone aside from Lardis is here.

Yeah, they were supposed to this season for the I talk was supposed to include Ryan Green.

It was supposed to include more of Oliver more.

Yes.

Nick Lardis.

Like, you know, they traded Alan, but Alan Kurchinsky.

Don't master.

Like, yeah, more of those guys.

Yeah, I'm not.

I know it's disappointing to see them in the position that they're in.

But the guys that they were going to lean on for a lot of that, you know, youth and that skill are here in Chicago.

Yeah.

So it's a little bit different.

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A lot of negative today.

Understandably, but man, but dark since the break has been two games, but he has been two games to goals.

Awesome.

Yeah.

There was a couple instances where in both games, we just kind of like weave through traffic.

Was able to stick handle through some pretty decent checkers that play off the face off today, where he kind of like delayed.

And then took the puck in and walked in on blackwood.

I wasn't able to score, but just an incredible individual effort.

He looks really, really good.

I'm so pleased because we were worried.

Like, because came back from the injury, didn't quite look like the same guy heading into the break.

And it was one of the things to watch in the in the last 25 here.

If you listen to our mini pod and boy, he has been outstanding through two games.

And it's not just the goals like he had in this game.

Three shots and five more shot attempts.

So eight total shot attempts.

Really, really good face off for a struggle for him today.

Four and 11.

So four out of 15 for a dot.

But other than that, it was really, really good.

So that's good.

Excited about counterbredard.

Everyone else will see.

Yeah, you should be.

You should be excited about him.

Yeah, I mean, like we said, like the rest was needed.

And he's he's come back from from the break.

And probably has a bit of a chip on his shoulder, whether he'll admit it or not.

And wants to go out there and prove.

To a lot of people that probably should have been him along, but he wasn't.

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They had a career comparison of Bidard and McKinnon through 195 NHL games today was Bidard's 196.

So Bidard 69 goals to McKinnon's 54.

113 assists to McKinnon's 86.

182 points to McKinnon's 140.

42 multipoint games to McKinnon's 33.

So I had an every category through 195 NHL games.

Counter Bidard and Nathan McKinnon had to head now.

They're very different players.

But I just think there was a little too.

I think over the last two years, when people were a little bit panicked about Bidard,

this is one of the players we reference all the time is those two head to head.

And Bidard has the edge through this point in his career or significant.

So Nathan, what you want to see?

Hinnon's rookie season.

He also played with Matt Dushane, Gabriel Landiskog, Ryan O'Reilly, Stasney, Eric Johnson, Tyson Berry,

decent players.

They're right.

Yeah, very good.

Rookie season.

His second season, he had most of those guys back.

He also had Jerome again, though, Alex Tangay.

Yeah, it's pretty good players.

Yeah.

So better than I will say teammate support goes to Nathan McKinnon over those first 100 or so.

What was it?

195, 195 games.

I'd give the teammate edge to Nathan McKinnon.

Just, I mean, just highlighting what Bidard has done with less than the supporting cast of some of the other.

Number one picks that have stepped into the league.

But that, I mean, that that comes down to how this rebuild has operated and in getting this guy right away, because as you'll know,

Nathan McKinnon wasn't the first piece of the rebuild that the average had.

Yes.

So it took some time for them to build up to what they became as Stanley Cup champions and one of the best teams in the league.

Spencer Knight was our runner up for the game puck today.

He was really, really good, really, really solid.

Looks like he worked a lot, not that his positioning was bad, but he is very rarely out of positions in the break.

Just looks very, very strong and confident in his crease.

Glovehand looks strong.

There was that there was a play where the abs overpassed a little bit where you kind of had to sprawl out and stick out the left pad.

Because it was, I think it was a three on one.

Still got a piece of it.

They overpassed, but shot right into his pad, but just kind of staying with everything.

Angles good. That's what you want to see.

And when you see a guy not having to make insanely spectacular saves to be nominated for our game puck and, you know, had this been a different result, probably a star of the game.

That tells you that's the Corey Crawford thing.

He's like, well, why is he never make diving saves because he doesn't have to.

He is square to the shooter, doesn't give up many rebounds.

That's what you want to see.

So, especially when it was great.

And why don't we hear what he had to say after the game today?

We got that.

Would you say that's the volume or shots you were expecting from a team like this?

I don't know.

I don't really go into expecting really because I think, you know,

a number of shots out there.

I think dictates certain things, but I don't always think it dictates, you know, what a goal he's nice like.

I mean, playing on the other side with Blackwood had to not face many shots.

And it's like kind of tough too. So, I don't know, I don't really think about it.

What do you see from the team in front of you today?

You know, I think we played a pretty mature game.

I just think that we just got to stick to our game plan for a full 60 and go with the ups and the flows of the game.

And also, they're a fantastic team, right?

Colorado has some of the best players in the world.

So, it's a good test.

And to be in a tight game with them, I think it's good for us to learn what it means to be in an NHL hockey game.

You know, it's like this time of year, guys, our teams are scraping for points and tight games.

So, I think it just shows like a lot of our younger guys.

I guess this is what applying the NHL is.

Yeah, it's tough to start. I guess the off the break, two losses here and just kind of knowing there.

Did you get my need?

Yeah, I don't really think about it.

I think we just, you kind of just, I don't know, I've never been someone that really focuses on standing stats.

Personally, I just try to come into every moment and just be present.

You know, whether it's going into a game in the middle of the game or after.

So, I just kind of look forward and see what we can do better.

All right, there's spent your night courtesy of the Hawks made a good point there that shot sign gold and always indicate a goalie's night.

The Hawks actually led the avalanche in a high danger score.

Chances nine to five at five on five, 11 to nine at all strengths.

So they did for the how lopsided the shot attempts were at five on five, 50 to 30 in favor of Colorado.

The high danger chances went to the Hawks and I'm trying to think back of.

Like hugely massively dangerous scoring chances he has had.

There were a couple, but it wasn't like despite all those shots against it wasn't like he was under siege tonight.

Yeah, it didn't feel like there were a lot of like scramble moments or where he had to have like a consecutive high danger shots like rebound rebound rebound.

Like he, I think they did a good job of being able to kind of control some of that around the net.

Yeah, I mean, he had a really solid game.

As we said, like this, this is that is having a guy that can keep you in games.

You have no business being in it's it's a guy that can steal you.

Wins sometimes steal you points sometimes like that's that's a huge confidence booster for this team or should be knowing that he's back there.

Most nights like like the question of Ken Spencer night be a starter in this league.

Shoulder the workload.

This season has given you the answer so far of like absolutely like no question.

That was for the avalanche were 3.18 he gave up to.

That is a really good game.

And it's I want to give the hawks like a little bit of credit to I know they were massively outshot.

They give up 35 shots between nine high danger chances.

That means they were controlling the front of the net well.

They were limiting, you know, in close looks.

So they played despite the result of the game.

They played a pretty solid game against the avalanche and we're right there until the end.

They just got to find some depth scoring that that's what we started the show with.

That's working to end it with hopefully it shows up tomorrow.

All right, we'll talk to everybody tomorrow.

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