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Okay, so obviously I know this is locked on Giants and there's plenty of Giants to talk

about and it does connect to the Giants with one Logan Web, but we have to talk about

this World Baseball Classic Blunder that's going on with Mark Derosa, specifically because

Mark Derosa, if you remember, was at some point in the writing to be the Giants manager.

Now, we don't know how deep things got.

His name gets thrown around a decent bit, even though he's mostly on MLB network, but

because he does stuff with Team USA and he has been around obviously the pro game for

a very, very long time, his name always gets thrown around when there are job openings

and it did get thrown around as far as the Giants are concerned.

And Mark Derosa is in hot water, all right, because the, I almost said the Giants, because

the Team USA, they lose to Italy to give up eight runs as they lose to the Italians.

I did not see this coming from team Italy, you know, we know about the Dominican Republic,

we know about Venezuela, we know about some of these other teams.

I did not put enough respect on Italy's name.

And clearly neither did Team USA as they weren't sure what the rules were.

Mark Derosa in an MLB video that has since been taken down from MLB network.

He went on MLB network and he's basically talking about how their ticket is already punched

to the quarterfinals and they want to get some guys some work and nobody says anything

on the broadcast and I don't necessarily think it's their job to say anything.

But he goes through the next 24 hours and even prior to the Italy game says that they were

enjoying themselves the night before and guys are dragging a bit.

So it's a horrible look for Mark Derosa because their ticket is not already punched.

And if Italy does not beat Mexico, the Giants will be getting Logan Webb back because Team

USA will be out of it.

So here's the quick tie breaker scenario from the World Baseball Classic, Italy wins

versus Mexico, Italy and USA, advanced to the quarterfinals, Mexico wins versus Italy

and scores five or more runs, Mexico and USA, advanced to the quarterfinals, Mexico wins

versus Italy and scores four or less runs, Mexico and Italy advance to the quarterfinals.

So clearly there's still a number of ways for the Americans to get in, all right?

It's not over yet.

But this is a horrible look for Team USA.

It's a horrible look for a team and organization.

A lot of people have been questioning how seriously they took it to our school bull who's

up to make a bajillion dollar so we understand that.

But he says, oh, you know, I'm going to focus on what I got going on with the Tigers

and I didn't realize how much this was going to hurt me to walk away from this.

You had Bryce Harper saying, well, this isn't the Olympics and I'd love for baseball to

get back in the Olympics and I'd also would love for baseball to get back in the Olympics.

And then you put the cherry on top with Mark DeRosa not knowing the rules, literally, of

the tournament and going out there, putting out a lineup that didn't make a bit of

sense for the scenario.

And a lot of people are having think pieces on it.

It's a bad look for USA.

It's a bad look for that organization, that program, everything that they have put into

this from Aaron Judge and his pump up speech that didn't really seem to pump up a lot

of people that was going a bit viral.

So it's complete mess and with all that being said, USA can still win the whole thing.

They could still go out there with some lucky breaks, right?

I just read you the scenarios and win the whole thing.

They still have enough talent to win the whole thing.

I wanted to maybe take a little bit, just a little bit of heat off Mark DeRosa.

And that's because we've talked about this before when it comes to managers and a lot of

people, I said this on social media, a lot of people didn't want to hear it and I understand

that.

But we don't necessarily know how much managers are doing these days.

Now I will say this with Mark DeRosa.

He did work team USA and coach team and manage team USA.

The last road baseball classics, so that's why people are saying, well, he should know

the rules.

But I will say this in a lot of these scenarios, these guys are doing so much.

We don't know how many managers these days even make the lineups, right?

So the bug starts with him.

Don't get me wrong, but there's a huge possibility to me that somebody may be confirmed with

him.

Yeah, you're good.

You're good.

You're good.

Because if that didn't happen, that's insane, right?

I think nobody in that building knew what was going on.

And unless Mark DeRosa was in there saying, hey, I did this before, we're good guys.

We got our three wins unless that happened.

And it's very possible that it happened, but we don't know.

My thought process is nobody knew what was going on.

He did a whole interview.

They went through the whole day.

He did two interviews because he did the pregame presser after he did the MLB network

hit.

And nobody thought to double check what was going on.

Or which is this is possible or somebody out there said, hey, we just need three wins

and we're good.

Mark DeRosa doesn't double check it.

And now because he is the head of the snake, he's not going to go out there in front of

the media and say, well, my assistant coach told me that we were good.

Number one, because he would still doesn't, doesn't help to throw anybody under the bus.

And number two, it doesn't help him because everybody would say, well, you're the manager,

right?

I think that there is a smidge.

And I know it's not a major league baseball team, but just a maybe a little bit of picking

and choosing as far as Mark DeRosa is concerned, because we just don't necessarily know how much

he's doing, right?

I know it's not team USA, but I can't tell you how many times I had a head coach at every

level I played at, whether it's college, whether it was high school, some of all, whatever

it was, when it was time to talk about the structure of the tournament, right?

They would look towards the assistant coach and say, what is it?

We got to win one or two.

They didn't know.

They did not know.

So I'm not giving Mark DeRosa a pass.

He should have known the rules.

But in so many of these situations, somebody got to know the rules and nobody did.

Heck, even MLB network, not calling them after after they get on air.

When you do a hit, right, you're on with the guys for a little bit prior to and after.

So the hit ends, they say, thank you.

They go to break.

There was no conversation.

Hey, Mark, you might want to double check that.

So nobody knew nobody knew and Mark DeRosa, he's the face.

He's the manager.

He's going to have to wear all this and it's an awful look for him.

But I'm telling you, it would not surprise me if somebody in that clubhouse gave him that

information and it's on him to double check.

Now, it's very possible.

He himself said, no, no, no, guys, we're good.

I did this before.

That's very possible.

We don't know.

But he is having a very rough day.

There are people saying that he should be fired right now, which isn't going to happen,

especially if they're out of the tournament as of tonight.

If Italy doesn't get it done, I saw they had an injury to one of their starters.

So if Italy doesn't get it done, you won't have to fire them because the USA team will be

done.

Okay.

And on top of that, people are even saying if Mark DeRosa wants a job in Major League

Baseball as a manager, that's out the window.

So you talk about putting yourself in a bad situation for really no reason at all.

That's what Mark DeRosa did.

And I'm telling you right now, it doesn't really matter if somebody gave him that information.

If there was an assistant coach, whatever it was, it doesn't matter.

He's going to have to fall in the sword.

He should have, I guess, triple-checked it.

But guys, it's just for me, the idea of Mark DeRosa on the internet searching, double-checking

what the rules are, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, right?

Well, he should have went home and triple-checked.

That's a huge coaching staff, right?

So I think it's more of an indictment on the whole staff, on the whole operation versus

just Mark DeRosa, unless, and I'll say it one more time, he was running around in the

clubhouse in the dugout, saying, we're good.

On top of that, I didn't even bring up the good time.

I know they said that.

They were dragging.

They essentially celebrated clinching on some level, even if it was minor.

They celebrated clinching.

Nobody thought to double-check.

I know it's going to fall on Mark DeRosa, but nobody thought, hey, are we sure we're

in?

Nobody did that on that staff?

This isn't college.

This isn't junior college.

This isn't high school.

This isn't summer ball.

This is team USA.

And nobody double-checked that.

That's odd to me.

And as much as it's on Mark DeRosa, and he's going to get, if this is a blame pie, he's

going to get, I don't know, 80, 70, 80 percent of the blame, a lot of people want to give

him 100.

I can't give him 100 because it's that staff.

I can't give him all of the blame.

I'll give him most of it, but I can't give him all the blame unless it comes out.

And he came out after the game and said, I misunderstood or misspoke or whatever it

was.

He kind of said two things at once.

But again, you went out there after you, I guess, misspoke and still put out that line

up.

And Bryce Harper was not in it.

And Paul Goldschmidt was in it against a righty.

And he has a terrible split.

Just none of it made sense.

So I'm giving him majority of the blame.

I cannot give him 100 because that staff is a staff that somebody on that on that staff

has to double-check that has to PR somebody.

You're doing hits on MLB network.

So I think it's just a colossal failure.

They could say when the whole thing, but if they don't, it's a colossal failure up

and down.

The gross is going to get all the blame.

He's the face.

He's the manager.

That's what comes with it.

If they win, Mark the Ross is the man.

Maybe he gets a job as a manager in Major League Baseball, but doesn't look like that's

going to happen now.

Does not look that like that's going to happen now, which is just a fascinating zero to

a hundred real quick because just a couple of days ago, they were beating Team Mexico.

And this thing was often running.

Now, I do recall, I do recall the broadcast, somebody said, well, they didn't say it on

the broadcast.

I recall watching the Mexico USA game and somebody saying they'll need to beat Italy in order

to advance.

I remember that straight up.

So I do remember somebody saying that towards the end of the game, but clearly nobody else

heard that.

At least nobody else associated with Team USA Baseball.

So Mark DeRosa, man, oh man, rough go for you, man.

I guess you should have been on Google.

I guess you should have been triple checking everything while you guys were popping whatever

you were popping and enjoying clinching.

And that's the other thing too.

What are you doing celebrating clinching the quarter final, right?

You're the favorite.

You in Japan, the two favorites to win the whole thing.

What are you doing?

I understand.

And that we've got into that in baseball as well.

Oh, well, you clinch after you get a playoff spot, then you clinch each round because it's

a really long season.

And I'll go back and forth with people on that.

This is the world baseball classic is like two weeks.

What are you doing?

Celebrating that.

I don't understand that.

And I love to celebrate.

I'll celebrate anything.

But I don't really understand why you're celebrating clinching the quarter final.

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Clinch going to the final.

I mean, that would be even different.

This am I final, but the quarter final, that's a done deal.

You want to know the biggest odds on USA getting to the quarter final?

Pretty high, pretty high.

So I don't really know what the heck they were doing.

They should have been, everybody should have been on Google themselves double checking

everything.

And that's what I don't understand about this.

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balling out for the Giants.

He is a former top prospect pushing for a bullpen spot in his second stint.

This is from Alex Pavlovich, a few days after hitting 99 miles per hour in his first

cactus league game, so everybody is just throwing 99 now.

Everybody is just throwing 99 now for the Giants.

I mean, this is incredible, right?

This is incredible.

Giants pitcher Caleb Killian stood at his locker and smiled.

I woke up feeling good that day, Killian said, apparently that has been the case all spring.

Killian has seen his stock rise as much as anyone over the past three weeks showing the

kind of velocity that this bullpen is mostly lacking.

Next week, manager Tony Vitello mentioned Killian and fellow right-hander Gregory Santos

as non-Rosser invitees who had put themselves in the conversation.

Both are former Giants who have returned.

In Killian's case, he's back five years after he was sent to the Chicago Cubs alongside

with Outfield Prospect, Alexander Canario, and a blockbuster deal that brought Chris

Bryant to San Francisco and helped 107 win team, narrowly win the NOS.

A former eight-round pick, Killian had dominated AA Richmond, making him a key part of that

deal.

It's not something I was expecting at the time, Killian said.

It was kind of a whirlwind and a little overwhelming at the time, but it helped me in my career.

Killian made his debut with the Cubs a year later and briefly appeared in the big leagues

each of the next two seasons.

The numbers weren't there.

28 earn rents and 20 walks and 27 and a third innings, and he also dealt with some poor

injury luck.

A right shoulder strain, a sideline Killian for half of the 2024 season.

In 2025, it was a last strain, and he pitched just 15 and two-thirds innings in the minors.

When Killian hit free agency, he met with teams over Zoom.

The Giants were the last team he talked with, and he didn't need to learn much.

He was part of the same draft class as Grant McCray, Tyler Fitzgerald, and Trevor McDonald,

who has played with many of the current members of the clubhouse in the minors.

He also had some familiarity with director of Major League coaching, Frank Anderson, who

worked with two of his coaches.

The staff was the number one reason I returned, Killian said, I just believed in them.

I love all the new guys who came in.

The Giants have a reputation for keeping pictures healthy, and for Killian, that's the

key.

He appeared in just 27 games the past two seasons across all levels.

We know with those guests, the question is, can he stay healthy?

So far it's been smooth sailing, and Killian has looked like a different guy than the one

who struggled for the cubs.

The early 99 miles per hour fastball wasn't a mirage.

He had 99.2 last Friday, and has shown a firm fastball in every spring appearance.

In five and a third innings, he has allowed just one run and five strikeouts to one walk.

I think the goal is to stay in the bullpen and just let it rip in there, Killian said

of the increased velocity.

Killian was traded at a time when the Giants had a historically good bullpen, and returned

to an organization that doesn't have many clear answers in the late innings.

He needs several pictures to break through this spring.

On Friday, Killian gave up his first run of the spring, but the rally included two infield

singles.

Vitello pushed Killian to a second inning, which surprised the right hander.

The staff wanted to see how his stuff would react to extra work, a sign of how seriously

they are taking Killian as a candidate for the opening day roster.

Vitello said he liked the way it looked, and he continues to be impressed by the 28-year-olds

demeanor on the mound.

He always has got a good heart rate, Vitello said.

I think he has a good feel for what's going on when he's out there.

My question is this, who isn't throwing 99 miles per hour on the Giants right now?

Who isn't throwing high 90s on the Giants right now?

That's my question, because it seems like everybody is balling out right now, at least from

a velocity standpoint.

You got to make sure you get guys out, but this is great stuff to hear about Caleb Killian.

I love stories like this when you can kind of boomerang and come back home and figure

things out.

You know, work even better the next time around.

So great to see and great to hear about Caleb Killian, and we are hoping that he is exactly

who he has been throughout the spring, because as we know, you can't necessarily take everything

that these guys are doing, apples to apples are oranges to oranges, but it's a dang good

start for the former top prospect.

One more segment with you, speaking of boomerang in the return of the PAN, of the return of Pablo

Sandoval, but just how exactly will he be helping the Giants this go around?

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knowing his love for the game and confidence that he could probably always swing a bat

with authority.

We might never hear the panda utter the R word, which is perfectly okay for giants fans

in their minds.

Santaval will forever be hitting three home runs in a world series game catching foul

pop ups to clinch epic game seven wins and crushing pitches over his head or at his

ankles for opposite field doubles.

But Santaval who played the past two seasons for the independence that in island fairy

hawks is admitting for the first time that it might finally be time to hang them up with

his home and family in Miami and his fifth child born two months ago a boy named Samuel

he has obvious off your priorities at a certain age you step back Santaval said Monday after

reporting to Scottsdale Stadium for a week long stint as a giant guest instructor a welcome

site for players and coaches who embrace his presence and fans who snagged his autograph.

I have to decide with my wife and family.

I have been blessed and grateful to be able to play baseball, but I want to spend time

with my family.

You're thankful for the opportunity to pass the torch to the young guys.

Santaval 39 has played pro ball every year since he was 17 years old in the 2004 Arizona

Ricky League after signing as a 16 year old out of Venezuela, but he said he won't play

this year.

One of his sons Liam is nine and playing ball himself Pablo can't wait to get home and

be there for him.

The first he'll be working with other kids in the Giants camp.

He's hoping to visit the minor league facility and get a look at the organization's top young

talent, including Luis Hernandez, the 17 year old Venezuelan shortstop who signed with

the Giants in January, the crown jewel of the latest international free agent class who

received a $5 million bonus.

It's one of the things I want to tell the young guys because it's the place you want to

be.

What you work for and when you get the opportunity, you keep working hard to keep chasing

your dreams.

Santaval said some of the young guys when they get the signing bonus, they stop dreaming.

The thing I've been seeing with Luis, he's a young guy with a great baseball IQ and the

way he plays the game at that age playing with mature guys, guys playing in a higher league

and handling things the way he's handled them, he's special.

It was a different world when Santaval turned pro, not just because he received a signing

bonus of only 75 K, but also because he didn't have the luxury of being around the state

of the art Felipe Alu Academy, which opened in 2016 in the Dominican houses all the Giants

Latin prospects and surrounds them with top end coaches and trainers, many of the support

staffers.

So he goes up to talk about Santaval and how tough it has been or how tough it was for

him on the way up.

But now he's, you know, on the other side and looking to really help the younger Giants

out there, figure out their way and get exactly where Pablo Santaval was in his career.

Over the years, the Giants ceremoniously invited players back to San Francisco to retire

as a giant from JT Snow to Ryan Vogelsock to Sergio Romo asked if he'd like such treatment.

Santaval flashed a wide smile and said, you never know.

In other words, absolutely yes.

It's a golden opportunity for the Giants and their marketing team to give Santaval one

more day, something they love to do for him, Tim Lenticum and Madison Bumgarner.

Once either of those guys agree to such a thing.

For now, Santaval is perfectly content in Giants camp at three time World Series champion

wearing his familiar 48 jersey and preaching the good word about playing hard and chasing

dreams.

That's just a great story, man.

Great stuff from John Shay.

So Pablo is helping out with the Giants, a guest instructor for now and obviously, you

know, he's going to get back to Miami and do whatever he needs to do, which is family

just be a family man, be there for his nine year old who's starting to do his thing and

play some baseball.

So I just wanted to throw that out there because I saw floating around and I got a chance

to read it myself last night.

Great stuff from John Shay of the SF standard.

He's always right on the money with this stuff and I think Pablo can really help some of

these guys, you know, going through what he went through and seeing how things have flipped.

I think there are some players out there that can maybe be a bit bitter.

You know, well, I didn't get to have this or I didn't get to do that and Pablo has

not taken that approach.

You know, he's happy for these kids and what they're going to be able to accomplish and

honestly, Pablo is part of that with the success that he had and other Venezuelan players.

It makes organizations want to commit and to invest even more in these facilities and

in these, you know, countries where they have things set up.

So great stuff all around and Pablo going to be a huge help at least for the time being

for some of the young players.

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