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Hey everybody, it is Tim Miller here with my buddies.
Andrew Egger, author of our morning shots newsletter, JVL,
author of the Triad newsletter, and editor, extraordinaire.
We're here to discuss Christy Nome's defenestration.
Christy Nome is out as the head of the Department
of Homeland Security.
The announcement has come as this is one
from Donald Trump on social media.
He's bleeding this, and he's bleeding it wild.
Christy Nome is on stage in Nashville at some conference.
Right now.
Yeah, we're out there.
It's gonna pull it up and watch that.
So you know that Christy Nome's been fired.
She doesn't know we would presume that she's been fired.
Maybe she's just keeping a straight face.
There's no other way for her to do that.
How would you know the difference, Tim?
I'm gonna read the pose from Donald Trump.
I'm pleased to announce that highly respected
United States Senator from the Great State of Oklahoma,
Mark Wayne Mullin will become United States Secretary
of Homeland Security, effective March 31.
The current secretary, Christy Nome, who served us well
and has had numerous inspectacular affairs.
I'm sorry, results, especially on the border.
We'll be moving to special envoy
for the shield of the Americas.
Blah blah blah.
They are gonna be announcing at Saturday in Dural.
She thanks Christy.
He thanks Christy for her service at Homeland.
So there we go.
You've seen this coming for a bit now.
Why don't we give us our initial thoughts?
Andrew, I noticed in the slack, me and JBL being negative
and always looking for ways things could get worse.
I think are not overwhelmed.
I guess I don't wanna speak for JBL, I'll speak next.
I'll speak for myself.
I'm not overwhelmed that things are gonna get much better
with this, but you had posted that you think
that it is certain that her successor
will be better than her.
So let's hear.
That's what I said.
That's exactly what I said.
It is an absolute guarantee.
Please write me letters when the eventual successor,
Mark Wayne Mullen, the Senator from Oklahoma,
turns out to be a nightmare.
You can hold me personally accountable.
No, I did not say this.
I did say that I do think that she has been uniquely bad
in some respects.
I mean, she is a force multiplier for obviously
what Trump has wanted all along at the border,
but she has added a lot of her own personal spin
in ways that have been particularly embarrassing
for the country and particularly hard on the people
who are getting the brunt of all of this stuff,
the way that she and Corey Lewandowski have run,
ICE operations have been always with one eye
on sort of throwing a lot of red meat content
to the megabase in terms of slick, sizzle, real video
of people marching onto deportation planes in chains
and ICE agents scuffling with protesters in the street
and, you know, Pepperspring.
And all these sorts of things have been,
have been not out of character with the way
that Trump has wanted all this to go,
but a lot of it has flown just as a practical matter
out of Nome and Lewandowski and the specific strategy
that they have wanted to implement.
And honestly, like to bolster her personal brand,
which is part of what's so funny about this
is like that is ultimately the thing,
not the, not any of ICE's, you know, horrible outrages
that we've seen in recent months,
but the thing that finally reporting suggests
got Trump to finally say, you know,
this is not the person for us, is the fact that,
she was in the Senate this week and a senator,
you know, John Kennedy, a Republican senator asked,
what's the deal with all those, you know,
the millions and millions and millions of dollars,
DHS is spending running these ads
that like make you look like the architect
of this deportation regime.
And she said, well, you know, you know,
the president thinks those ads are great,
he signed off on them, Donald Trump hears about this,
he says, I absolutely did not sign off on those ads.
What's going on here?
And that appears to have been ultimately the thing
that that broke it for.
Yeah, so not, not the murder of two American citizens.
That wasn't what broke it for Christie, you know,
but testifying that Donald Trump was involved
with something that he doesn't want to be associated
with, that makes that make sense.
Correct.
JBL point to you for people,
because folks are just kind of gathering in here,
the breaking news that Christie, you know,
has been fired as Secretary of Homeland Security.
And it happened either right before right as she began speaking,
that's her speaking to the Sergeant Benevolent Association,
major cities conference in Nashville.
And, you know, Trump loves to humiliate.
He loves to humiliate.
And whether or not she's in the dark right now,
as we point and laugh for whether or not she heard right
before she came on, it is a humiliation,
ritual either way for Christie, you know,
and we have to at least enjoy that element of it.
JBL, what's your top takeaway?
It's delicious and it is unlikely.
Here's my top takeaway, honestly,
because I think Homeland Security is unlikely to get better.
And we can talk about that a little more
because that's substance.
It, to me, is fitting.
And I think it's important for people to look at Christie
now and so they understand what it is they're signing up for.
This woman has dedicated her entire,
like the last decade plus of her life
to climbing into Donald Trump's shadow.
She's done everything he has for her.
She may have broken the law for him in addition to humiliating him.
Even before she had this out, she ran those ads
about how great he was doing.
This like, this South Dakota was running out.
I'm gonna put him on the, you know, Mount Rushmore
and that stuff.
And her thanks for that is that he absolutely humiliates her.
There are ways to do this perfectly normally, right?
Do it on a Friday afternoon with how you let her announce
that she, she's, you know, talked with the president
and she's stepping back.
She's got more time to that.
No time with her is with her special advisors.
And, but he doesn't do that.
He waits till she's on stage to announce this.
And I did have a question because he,
he announces that she's moving into his other role.
I do wonder if he's going to do that.
He's his other role.
I do wonder if he got her buy-in beforehand.
Good for me.
Or if he just is saying she's doing this
and now she can't even say no to it, right?
So she can't even, like she actually has to do
this other job now that he said.
Special envoy for the shield of the America.
Yeah, it's a, so, you know, like if you're signing up
for Trump, like you, you should understand
that this is what you're signing up for.
Yeah, this is reminiscent for me of the tarmac firing
of my former boss, Ryan Sprey.
Yes.
And, you know, in that case,
that showed like the cowardly nature of Trump
who has this year fired element.
He doesn't like to actually fire people.
You know, it's those kind of reminiscent of in the debates,
like you would insult jobs wife on stage
and then off stage back, how are you doing buddy?
Like this just trumps just a non-confrontational nature
when actually faced with a threat, kind of like the,
when the bird, when the eagle is next to him,
he gets scared, a little bird's coming for him.
And on the right situation,
Ryan's told me this, that he was like,
he had called Trump, they're on the phone together
and they were like planning something like 20 minutes
before, you know, like while he's in the car
waiting to get on the plane.
And they finish the call, you know,
it's like another call and he gets off to get on the plane
and it's like, no, sorry, you don't need to get on the plane,
Trump just fired you by tweet.
And it's like, they were literally just talking
his chief of staff, he wouldn't do it.
So I don't think you can put it past him,
how embarrassing it is.
Andrew referenced the video that put the exchange
from the hearing that put the final nail in the coffin
for Chris, you know, why don't we watch that?
We've got the video of John Kennedy,
my senator questioning her about how they're spending
their money on ads.
The president approved ahead of time,
you spending $220 million running TV ads
across the country in which you are featured prominently.
Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes,
did it correct?
Did the president work with OMB?
Yes.
He did.
Yes.
Okay.
And one thing, Senator, I think would be helpful
to know is how effective that communications has been
that not overwhelmingly.
In your name recognition, I mean, I personally just,
I mean, to me, it puts the president
in a terribly awkward spot.
And I just, I'm not saying you're not telling the truth,
it's just hard for me to believe, you know.
I mean, president, as I do that you said Mr. President,
here's some ads I've cut and I'm gonna spend $220 million
running them that he would have agreed to that.
It's crazy.
Like this is always, I was JBL, you're always on this
that it's like, you know, the, it can never be
the head of the gang that was wrong.
You know, he's always, like wrong is always done by him.
He's never done wrong.
And I just want to read it up.
Tom Redd Stalin only knew.
Yeah, exactly.
He would never have allowed this to,
he would never have put me in the gulag.
But this, I mean, this is the Cardinal Sin
from Trump's perspective.
We have seen this over and over and over again.
He doesn't care if you kill people.
He doesn't care if you steal or attempt to have a coup.
The one unforgivable thing is making money off of him.
Yeah.
And the way he views this, the federal budget is his money.
That belongs to Donald Trump and Donald Trump's family.
If you are spending that money to get something over for yourself,
you know, to get your beak wet,
then you're stealing from him.
And he doesn't count on it's that.
That's right.
And because it isn't really the spending.
I mean, maybe that matters to Kennedy,
but I just want to pull this up.
I mean, her spending was profligate and insane.
And it's not, and I think that this is more about
the front to Trump as JBL says,
not like any sort of fiscal responsibility.
I just want to read through some of these line items.
220 million for the ad campaign,
including some subcontract to that was,
maybe a sub subcontract was to affirm
that was our old spokesperson, Trisha McLaughlin's husband
was involved in 172 million for the private jets.
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Two and a half million for gold detailed ice vehicle.
She thought Trump would like that.
It would be gold on it.
Another six figures for Mustangs
and for some tricked-out ice trucks.
Not exactly a doge-type operation over there.
Can I say one more thing on the Kennedy element of this?
Because this has been a fascinating thing to me.
One of the big through-line Trump critiques of Joe Biden
was this idea that his staff was really running the show.
He didn't know what was going on.
He wasn't calling the shots.
This looks to me very much like a Trump world version
of that exact same thing.
Chris Dino has had so many enemies
that she has made all throughout this administration.
There are constantly leaks coming out of DHS,
especially in the wake of Minneapolis
basically trying to scapegoat her as like the prime mover
of everything bad that's ever happened at DHS
in this first year of Trump too.
And then in addition to that,
she made a real enemy of Stephen Miller
as this was all coming out
because she tried to voice it all off on him.
And had reporting in Axios
basically saying, I was only ever doing anything.
Stephen Miller told me to do here.
And so when you see a line like this from Kennedy,
Kennedy is not some loose cannon.
Kennedy is not some like Heterodox Republican in there.
He is an administration ally.
He is doing this in some respect
to lay the predicate for this in the administration.
But it does not appear as though he was doing this
as a predicate like that Trump himself had put him up to it,
right?
Because he is creating the video content
that Trump is going to see.
Trump is going to react to with this kind of hostility
and then Trump is going to pull the plug.
So it's like, it's like this bizarre thing
where the White House is planning this with Kennedy
in order to like trick Donald Trump-
Okay, Faith.
Can I ask you guys to play in secret too?
Because I looked at this and I couldn't tell you why.
But to me, I thought, oh, Stephen Miller did this.
This whole thing was choreographed
from Stephen Miller's office.
They went to Kennedy.
They set Kennedy up for the, you know, you do this.
He is how you phrase it.
This is the question.
Then we'll get it in front of the big guy
and then we'll drop the hammer.
This just felt like a Stephen Miller operation to me.
Is that crazy?
No, I don't think so.
And Stephen Miller has always operated this way, you know?
I mean, say what you want about Stephen Miller
and I've said all the worst things in the world.
He is behind the scenes of an excellent operator.
You know, and he works Javanka.
You know, like Ivanka was like this, you know,
a person I was trying to put the softer face
on Trump 1.0 and Stephen Miller was the hammer
and yet he's still like stayed in her good graces, right?
Like he, he does this.
He works both sides of the street.
I'm a couple of the Q&As we have from our commenters
on Sub-Second Super Chat.
Kevin Harrington asked if, is this being perjury for her?
Can we go after her for perjury?
If Trump didn't approve the answer?
I don't think that's very likely.
I'm like, I bet Pam Bonney's gonna look seriously into that.
I bet she will as well.
Are we gonna have, here's another question.
We're gonna have a special election in Oklahoma.
That's from Andrew Hartley.
I, yes, is obviously the answer to that.
I think that it's not as if that really adds another seat
to the table for Democrats, Oklahoma's still Oklahoma.
But the timing, I can, it's notable
that Trump picked a senator in this sense, right?
It's like he has very narrow major.
He doesn't fucking care about Congress.
Like the Congress people to him are just like other characters
in his show that he can just move around the set
because if you are a traditional president
and you were like trying to think about
how you're gonna get your agenda passed
and you're too coming into the midterms,
like you wouldn't want another vacancy in the narrow Senate
where you're giving more power to Lisa Murkowski
and Susan Collins.
I just think that goes to show just how far away
we are from that kind of traditional type of politics.
Like Trump just, like Congress is really just an ornament
over there that can be used or abused for his own means.
Like what are they gonna have to vote on?
Well, he's a gender.
Funding for the Iran War and funding
for Merik Lane Mullins DHS.
Are we gonna have to vote on either of those things?
I don't know.
This was another interesting thing, by the way,
that was coming out of the Kennedy hearing
is this is some reporting Sam Stein had
that there was some chatter among Democrats
that Republicans were floating this as like the trade.
Like, well, what if we got Kristi Nome
would that shake you guys loose on DHS funding?
And as we have discussed, that would be an insane trade
for Democrats to take.
Democrats have given no indication that they want to
or that they find that plausible at all.
They're sticking to their guns on DHS funding.
But it does kind of add another interesting layer to this.
Like maybe some of these Republicans were hearing
that something like this was coming
and they're like, maybe we can kill two birds with one stone.
Maybe we can shake some Democrats loose on this,
while Donald Trump shifts, no.
But I guess that moment has kind of happened.
Yeah, and I guess actually, I'm correct.
I'm we're doing this live.
I guess Kevin stick to a point, a temporary person.
Also, that's also interesting politically.
Because he's been like the one governor,
Republican governor, Trump has butted heads with.
This stick has spoken out against Trump.
So again, you're kind of leaving this in his hands.
He could appoint somebody, at least temporarily,
that is not with Trump on DHS,
because stick isn't with Trump on DHS.
So that's not weird.
Can I give you one weird perk of that?
You know, the governor will appoint a replacement,
and then the replacement can't be the one
who runs this fall.
It's the whoever gets replaced is barred
from being the actual candidate, I don't remember.
Bullwork Republican, David Holtz,
the only good Republican mayor in the country
in the air bubble of the city.
Put it in there.
Put it in there.
Okay, let's do a little more shot in Florida.
The only reason Kristi Nome is on the screen
for new viewers coming to live stream
is for shot in Florida.
So we should all point to laugh and smile and enjoy.
She either was told right before she walked out
that she was being fired, or you know, and she doesn't.
Either way, very delicious.
She said she's so mad tonight, isn't she?
Like, she'll privately keep the smile plastered on
because she can't move her face,
but the time she gets home,
which is her own quarry.
Adults coming out.
I mean, they're gonna, she'll look like this,
and she might even, I don't know, shoot another dog.
Watch out, Corey.
Protect the crown jewels tonight.
Hegging happening tonight.
You don't know where she's going.
I wanna play another video in the spirit of shot in Florida
then we'll do more real political analysis.
And this was, some of you guys have seen it,
but we all enjoy it so much.
Let's just watch it one more time.
So the Democratic Congress woman from.
Can't tell Tim, is that feed of her frozen?
Great question.
Another joke.
Literally.
But literally, I had to stop and look at it for a second.
No, I saw a head move down here.
No, that's just her face.
Congresswoman from Los Angeles questioning
Christie about her relationship with her special boy,
Corey Londowsky.
Had sexual relations with Corey Londowsky.
Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down
in peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today.
Reclaiming one thing that I would tell you
is that he is a special government employee
who works for the White House.
There are thousands of them in the federal government.
So reclaiming as an advisor.
It has no authority to be questioned.
It is a joke.
I was a little upset we couldn't show the full screen
that it's Jared Moskowitz over her life shoulder,
left shoulder, and he has a justice for cricket pin on,
which is very, very cute for Jared Moskowitz,
good as to him.
So that's a tough week for her.
Her husband was in the audience there
as she's getting quizzed about her special
employee and then she's fired the next day.
That's a bad week.
Andrew, have you had a week that bad?
I have only had a week that bad
because all the stuff I want to write about
gets keeps getting pushed back
by having to write repeatedly about Christie.
No, but that's okay.
It's important stuff that's happening in the news.
Let's talk about anthropic.
It is amazing.
I mean, like the Democrats in this house hearing,
they went around and around on this yesterday with her.
And it was really, really good
because of course she has denied this affair
in the past.
She can't deny it up there.
She'll purge herself, right?
So, I mean, I guess that didn't really matter
so much with the Trump approval business.
But, but, but, you know, so she has to talk around,
I can't believe that you would pedal.
I think you would traffic in this disgusting tabloid garbage.
I can't believe how badly you think of conservative women.
I mean, it really was kind of a masterclass
in putting her on the spot up there.
Quick walk off there.
That was the defendant straight
at Department of Homeland Security,
Secretary Kristi, you know, I'm leaving the stage
to find out that she's been fired.
Let's do a little real business here.
At the top, Andrew made the case
for why Mark William Mullin must be an improvement
over Kristi, you know, because she was so awful.
Let's hear the counter case.
JVL, do you want to give that or reject me too?
I mean, up to you.
You go first.
You're the host.
You're just gonna be mad.
I didn't say this.
If I had asked you,
Andrew, to find a United States Senator
with the exact same IQ as Kristi now,
would Mark William Mullin, would he have been your first choice?
Because I think it'd be close,
like he would be in your top three picks
because he is not a smart man.
No, he's just not a smart man.
So we're gonna get somebody who is not smart,
who is utterly unprincipled and lies constantly,
who has said terrible things
about recently deceased American citizens
who died at the hand of their government,
who is fully and wholly committed to the Trump regime
who himself has threatened violence against witnesses,
testifying before the United States Senate
as he was sitting there and challenged people to a fist fight.
And this guy, who by the way,
John Fetterman already said he's going to vote for, confirm.
This guy is gonna be running DHS.
I was a little concerned that they would put somebody
who is highly competent but quiet in the job
and that it would be like what has happened in Minneapolis
where home and came in and changed tactics
and basically the same sort of stuff is happening,
but they've tried to smooth it over and pretend
that they've retreated.
I think that's not the case.
Yeah, I am.
I mean, he is kind of the man Christy
in some ways of Corey Lundesky was bisexual.
He could just stay, you know,
because they have a lot of similarities.
I want to put a little more meat on your butt in there.
Can I first contest a one quick thing there?
Sure, about the man Christy.
I just think that he does not have this psycho belief
that he's gonna be able to run for president,
which is unlike Christy, you know,
I'm Christy, you know, him has thought
she'd be a 28 contender.
And he's driven a lot of this stuff.
I sort of put a little more meat on the bone of J.V.L.'s point,
just like let's look at the record of what Moana said.
After the killing of Alex Prety,
it was on Fox, he called it Prety, not the killer,
but the dead, the deceased, a deranged individual
who joined the protest to quote cause massive damage
with a loaded pistol and an extra mag
that was completely loaded,
he blamed the Democrats for that.
After an egg good died, he said the fact is
that Renée Good was interfering with police activity.
There's no question about that right now.
They had the right to defend themselves.
On the DHS funding shutdown,
he said it was all political theater,
he said it was for it, he's for the masks.
So, you know, he hasn't showed an inch of daylight,
like at least John Kennedy,
we don't know if it was Stephen Miller,
you know, with his hand going up John Kennedy's butt,
like moving him like a puppet there,
and whether he was doing Stephen Miller's dirty work
or whether he really just doesn't like Christine L.
Evidence on the latter is that a couple of times
John Kennedy has been like the administration's
way out over their skis on this, right?
So, he named John Kennedy,
whose boobish in his own way to run DHS,
she'd be like, okay, like that's a sign that like,
you know, they're not going to Tim Miller's preferred
immigration enforcement policy,
but at least they're gonna put somebody in
who understands that there are excesses.
There's no evidence that Mullen believes
that there are excesses.
And on top of that, here's my other thing,
that I'd be interested in your push back to this, Andrew,
is Mullen's gonna have more money to work with than Nome did.
Like, even if they don't pass this budget, like,
you know, it takes a while for them to,
you know, get all the funding,
disperse all the funding, you know,
recruit the individuals, assuming he won't be spending
as much money as Christy Nome was on her makeup kit,
and all the other stuff that she was doing.
So like, it's not as if, you know,
some of this is like kind of happening on its own.
Like there's, there is a inertia to this,
that like the agents of the DHS
are gonna be all out there in the streets.
And Mark Mullen doesn't seem like the kind of person
that's gonna want to dial that back,
but that would be my argument for it not giving much money.
And let me, let me add one more thing.
At least Christy Nome had Corey Lewandowski,
who had a private relationship with Trump on his own,
which-
Papa Dickey.
Which could have possibly given her
a smidge of independence from a Stephen Miller.
Mark Mullen, I keep saying McMullen, I don't know why,
Mark Mullen.
It's fine here.
Actually, I kinda wanna keep doing it.
Mark Mullen has no independent standing.
And so he enters in the totally subservient position
to Miller, and so he will not have the ability
to like go behind Miller's back and say,
like Mr. President, I really think this is not a great idea
for you or anything like.
He's just gonna have to do literally everything
that Miller tells him to do.
I think that's true.
I think that's true.
And I also think that every piece of reporting
that we have seen about the way DHS has been run
under Christy Nome is that Corey Lewandowski did not need
permission from Stephen Miller or Donald Trump
to be like a tyrant and a psycho
and to go on constant purges of people who he thought were,
not sufficiently loyal to Trump.
I think that there genuinely is a faction in DHS
that thinks they are out over their skis,
that thinks that the Minneapolis was a humongous blunder.
There was so much reporting going to conservative outlets
from people close to the top echelons of even ICE,
like Administrator Todd Lyons, guys around him who are like,
this is crazy, we can't do this anymore.
It's gonna be a disaster, it's been a disaster
and Christy Nome is like kind of behind it all.
Now don't get me wrong.
I do not think that anybody should look at this news
and be like, oh, thank God, that's over,
mission accomplished.
And I especially do not think that Senate Democrats
should feel that way when it comes to this fight
over DHS funding.
But I do think that you can look at the way
that things have gone in the past year
and just like look at the way that the labor department
has been run, I don't know.
We're like, look at just any sort of like median,
even like Pete Hegseth's defense department,
where like he is constantly imposing lunatic stuff,
but like at least the sort of operation has been allowed
to run in sort of a professional way further down
and imagine a future where maybe DHS looks
a little bit more like that outside of the personal ambitions
of Christy Nome and the like true tyranny
of Corey Lewandowski.
I could totally be wrong, but that's what that's the way.
I agree with you, there is a faction at the top of it.
I worry that like the middle and lower level
of the people implementing them this way.
Oh yeah.
That's the barren thing too.
So I think that's different than military
in that sense.
The point that you make the most compelling to me,
is I do think that Christy felt like
performative sadism kind of benefited her politically
and maybe Mark Wayne Mullen won't feel
as passionately about that.
You mentioned Democrats in the confirmation.
I think this is kind of obvious,
so we don't have to spend that much time on it,
but there's no reason to think
that he will have trouble being confirmed, right?
And I think all of the Republicans
will support him and John Fetterman.
And so I think, well, Fetterman,
oh look at that.
John Fetterman's already said he's going to confirm him.
Yeah, can I ask a question for you guys,
just as per matter of politics.
Should any Democrat vote to confirm this guy?
Oh, because I mean, maybe I'm just a crazy person,
but as a purely as a matter of politics,
I think that any Democrat who votes to confirm this guy
owns everything that happens under HHS
for the next year or whatever.
Yes.
And like you would be an insane person.
This is John Fetterman basically saying
I'm not running for a election.
It is. And this is a thing.
It goes back to the period during the Trump one transition
where there were some Democrats,
I think a lot of people were like so shook by what happened.
And it's just like Jesus, like if people are going to vote
in fascism because our border policies are so bad,
like we need to make some changes.
And like it's show that we're going to meet them
in the middle on stuff, right?
And the result of that was the Lake and Riley Act,
which got passed with some Democratic votes
and a Kristi-no confirmation.
Let me pull this up where there were seven Democrats
for five abstentions.
Fetterman, Maggie Hassan, Tim Cain,
what are you doing, Tim Cain?
Andy Kim, Gary Peters, Jean Shaheen, Alyssa Slocke.
So I think that's down to one, this time seven down to one.
And I think that the Lake and Riley Act,
I didn't pull that up,
but whatever the number of senators voted for that was,
that would be down to one or two as well.
And I think that there was a theory of the case
that was not totally irrational,
but that was just kind of wrong, right?
That was like we need to meet them in the middle
on immigration because immigration's been so bad for us.
I think people that made that that did not contemplate
how bad the Trump immigration regime would be
and how much people wouldn't like that either.
And so they were kind of moderating on the wrong thing.
Sort of like the instinct was not wrong,
but like the execution was very wrong.
I think it seems like the Democrats have mostly learned
from that besides Fetterman.
I don't know, Andrew, what are you gonna say about that?
The next time a Democrat is elected president,
they should absolutely have in the back of their mind
the ways that Joe Biden's specific executive failures
sort of set the table on immigration for all this stuff fine.
They should not think that they have like carte blanche
to replicate his immigration policy, sure.
But that has nothing to do with this moment.
That has nothing to do with the fights
that are going on right now in the Senate
over whether they're gonna give money to this agency
as it has been sort of operationalized by this president.
As you mentioned, Tim, like all of the sort of meat heads
that they have swollen the ranks of ice
and a border patrol with in the last six months
with minimal training and then put them out on the streets.
I mean, they should and to their credit,
everything we're seeing right now
is that they are being very sanguine
about what they need to do here.
They're holding the line and they have not shown any weakness
and even all the people,
even all the Democrats who eventually voted
and the last shutdown are totally in a block here
about these demands and that is as it should be.
All right, I wanna show a couple
other of Mark Wayne Mullin clips
for people to just get a sense of who's coming in.
And we'll go to your questions, your super chats,
your comments on sub-stack
and then I've got a little treat for everybody at the end.
So let's pull up whatever we got of Mark Wayne,
the highlight reel.
The tough guy act and the Senate hearings.
You know where to find me,
any place, any time, cowboy.
So this is a time, this is a place.
You wanna run your mouth?
We can be to consenting adults, we can finish it here.
Okay, that's fine, perfect.
I don't wanna do it now.
I'd love to do it right now.
We'll stain your butt up then.
You'll stain your butt up.
Oh hold it, oh, stop it.
Say you should never pull it.
No, no, sit down, sit down, okay.
You don't know, you're a United States senator.
Sit down, okay, sit down please.
All right.
Can I be smart?
Hold it, hold it.
And they've never loved Bernie more, honestly.
You know,
that exactly demonstrating the kind of judgment
that you'd look for in a position
of the importance of Department of Homeland Security.
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But I don't know.
Any other Mark Wayne thoughts?
It's not the only time by the way, he put up a video
where he kind of implied that if journalists
and Senate and Congress people could have duels,
maybe there'd be less fake news, he did that.
I think there was another fight threat.
So I don't know.
You know, he is a, it's not good.
Go ahead JVL.
Well, I'm just, so I was very interested
in the Mark Wayne as MMA champ idea.
So I went looking, I was like, I'd like to go see you know.
I know a little bit about MMA, like the sweet science.
And I could not find any video of him.
So I went digging like, so okay, what did he do?
So he fought three times
and something called the Extreme Fighting League.
This is in 2006 and 2007.
He fought the same guy, Clinton bonds in two of them
and another guy named Bobby Kelly.
And that, so he, I mean, this is not even like a D level UFC.
This is a, this is a very, very, very, very pro junior
grade semi pro.
It's like a guy who likes to scrap
and like did it three times for grand total of,
I'm just looking at the time, a grand total of under five minutes.
Or we spent under five minutes total in the cage.
Anyway, I mean, I'm kind of an MMA fighter at that bubble.
I've, I've had less than five minutes fighting.
Well, like never has so much been made of so little.
Yeah, good Lord.
Andrew, do you have something on that?
I've got a, I've got another interesting wrinkle
about his confirmation.
No, the only other interesting Mark Wayne Mullen fact
that I know is he's one of only a very small handful of people
with some Native American ancestry in Congress.
So, you know, he will, he will bring, he will bring,
he will bring an interesting perspective on heritage Americans
to the Department of Homeland Security.
No, bachelor's degree.
No, bachelor's degree.
No, that's a wee lot.
We've failed out of college.
Appreciate that, though.
That's, that's kind of the median Americans.
So we're looking for Mark Wayne Mullen is hearing.
Will happen at the Senate Homeland Security Committee.
This is kind of interesting.
Do you know how the chair is of that committee?
Andrew, quick quiz.
Rand Paul.
Now, Rand Paul and our queen have a little history.
Mullen called him a freaking snake
and then, and also express sympathies for the neighbor
who had attacked, physically attacked Rand Paul in 2017.
Let me read the full quote here, actually.
Bernie, once again, makes a cameo.
This is the new, the nominee for Secretary of Homeland Security,
Mark Wayne Mullen.
I respect Bernie Sanders because he's an open socialist.
And you know that he's a communist,
so you know what you're getting.
Rand Paul's a freaking snake
and I completely understand why his neighbor did what he did.
And I told him that to his face.
It stirred up people like Cheryl,
who don't know the backstory.
And then that night, Rand sends out a fun,
raising letter on it.
It's a gimmick.
So that's an interesting subplot of the confirmation.
I can see a little tree.
And he still gets confirmed anyway,
but you can see a trade where Rand is a no
and Federman is a yes.
Is the implication there?
Is the implication there that Rand Paul,
like famously, the most libertarian member
of like the entire US Senate is a secret communist?
Is that what I'm saying?
I think it's that he pretends to support Trump,
but he doesn't really support Trump.
I think that's right.
All right, let's go to your questions and comments
and chats and may I have the privilege
of asking the first question of you guys?
For sure.
What does this do to Christy 2028
and or Corey Lewandowski?
Corey Lewandowski, whenever he's been exiled
head before has always been a good soldier.
Yeah.
Christy 2028 was never happening.
That was happening only in her own head.
Corey is a survivor.
I mean, Corey was fired from the first campaign, came back.
He was exiled after he hit on one of Trump's top donors wives
at an addiction awareness fundraiser at a Benihana.
While drunk.
While drunk.
He was exiled for a while.
He Trump got back into Trump's good graces,
he ended up inside not only the Department of Homeland Security,
but inside the bedroom of the secretary.
So I know a bedroom.
Corey will find a way.
Corey will find a way.
And do anything to add to that or should go to the viewer.
No, it's just going to depend on how good of a job he does.
Yes.
A special envoy to the shield of the America.
America's.
All right, this is nice to our boy, Andrew Hazlitz,
who's coming to shield of the America's
is a new competitor podcast, actually, to shield of the Republic.
Kristie LV, Kristie and Corey will be hosting
at versus Elliott and Eric.
It's kind of like how Dan Crenshaw is going to be my new
competitor in the podcast space.
Anybody that gets out of the administration, they try to come for us.
I don't think it's going to work.
Bradley asks, Pam, next.
No, she's fine.
She's doing what they want.
Sorry.
Hard to wait.
Hard to great.
Who do you have as a next?
There's a lot of controversy in the Secretary of Labor.
Have you been watching this story?
Yes.
It's a very sub story.
She is having, I think, a lesbian affair with her bodyguard.
And there's like, this is all allegedly.
I don't want to get sued.
And then there's some random expense.
So she has some random controversy.
Her husband has also been banned from the premises
because of supposed allegations of sexual harassment against
different labor department staff.
So it's all, it's a whole thing.
It is a lot of what happened at the Department of Labor.
Most transparent administration in America, I just put as a sleeper
for getting kicked out next is this headsets.
I don't think he's fine, but this war, man, you can imagine a situation
where he ends up being a fall guy, where Marco and JD both kind of positions
themselves to be like, hey, Mr. Trump, I was with you.
Yeah, I was with you.
So right, you know, we was going to be nice and clean,
but him over there, a clown.
So Marco wanted to do it.
JD didn't want to do it.
And so the compromise position for the two of them, if it goes wrong,
is, well, it was Hegseth's fault.
It was Hegseth's fault, right?
And Hegseth has been happy to be the face of the operation.
Like he has put himself forward into that role where the others have not,
and that will, if it goes badly, multiply.
We never close a loop.
A reago on it, let's go to the loop on how many demos we think we'll vote
to confirm Mullin won.
I really think it's won.
I'd put the over under one and a half.
I could see one other person.
Maybe I'd put the over under one and a half.
Let's see.
Grace G says she loves to see Christy go to sound, but all this means
it's the same brutal ice with better optics.
This is what JBL said is concerned.
I share that, but like, I don't know.
Mark Wade Mullin out in the streets threatening to fight some protesters.
The optics, I'm not sure the optics will be better.
I don't understand this reference, Jason, or JBL.
So I think it's for you.
Jason says Jack Swagger for DHS secretary.
I could see that Jack Swagger, former very mid WWE guy.
Kind of has a Mark Wayne feel about him, but blonde.
Vicki is happy to give the people of Minnesota credit for tossing them out.
We'll take it.
Oh, we'll give it to him.
Deserved.
Adam asked if Lewandowski is going to seduce Mullin now.
We're on the same page.
Hey, Mama, we already did that one.
And there we go.
One more Stephen.
How does Susan Collins vote?
Oh, she votes to confirm.
She'll confirm.
She'll vote to confirm.
Yeah.
She might express a little concern before she does so.
Okay, I think that's the livestream.
I do have, as mentioned, I do have the treat for everybody.
And you know, it's hard.
It's kind of a happy trail.
So Corey Lewandowski's brought us a lot of joy over the years and frequent viewers
of the channel know that I have particularly a favorite moment with Corey,
not the time that he hip-checked me with his horrible breasts in a debate spin room.
That did happen.
But the time that when he was out in the wilderness, I was trying to make some scratch
from his on cameo.
I was trying to help the mega youth with a little problem they had.
Let's watch Corey Lewandowski offering some fatherly advice to America's young.
Hey, this message is from Mickey.
Mickey, your daddy, Papa Dickey reached out to me and told me that you're a toilet training.
You must be a very special little boy.
But I hear that you're starting to use the big boy toilet.
So congratulations and you're doing a great job with your poopies.
Congratulations.
I know your mom is going to be so happy for you.
And I want to thank you in advance for being a Donald Trump supporter when you get older.
All the best from your daddy, Papa Dickey.
Well, Kristi Nome wasn't doing a great job with her poopies in the end.
And she's been asked to hit the road.
Any final thoughts from you guys?
Not that I can share this family podcast.
We've already made Andrew Blush Thrice.
So any more would be too much.
Thank you, everybody.
Subscribe to the feed.
Tell your friends.
You aren't getting coverage of this
demonstration like this on CNN.
I'll tell you that.
You know, you are not.
Okay.
So come, come where you're getting that straight.
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