BONUS: Turning down Kanye, and other times former BET exec Debra Lee said "no"

We're bringing you a bonus special episode from our Women Rule summit in Los Angeles, where POLITICO editor Carrie Budoff Brown sat down with former BET chair and CEO Debra Lee earlier this week. Lee opens up about her political involvement, the art of saying "no," and BET Networks' transformation from a music video channel to what it is today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices