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Yesterday I read this story from the Boston Herald about Bobby Farara having to get baseball hats

made from a store. I think it was called the shop in South Boston because

the budget cuts or the I'm sorry the budget gap the budget issues in Boston had led to the

South Boston varsity baseball team not getting their hats. Those weren't able to make the cut I guess.

And City Counselor Aaron Murphy brought this up today while pushing for a BPS financial audit

that was blocked by the way by counselor Sharon Durkin who's a close ally of mayor Michelle Wu.

And I wanted to read you this from Aaron Murphy. So we passed a resolution declaring a day for

Cardi B in Boston. But when it comes to asking serious questions about city finances or

ensuring student athletes have the basic equipment and support they need those efforts are blocked

before they can even be heard. We should be embarrassed by that. Joining me now so you can hear it

from her own mouth is Aaron Murphy. City Counselor thank you so much for coming on.

Please share your frustrations on this matter with the listeners.

Yeah and thank you Grace for having me. So one news article said that you know sharing

pulled a power move I would have called Ike would refer to it as a bully move.

So I filed it a late file anything that comes in after 10 a.m. on Monday morning it can't make it

on the agenda in time. There's for open meeting rules so we often file things and we just have to

label them as an emergency late file. And in this case we heard on Tuesday that you know

salty residents were scrambling to step up because a baseball team was left to show up to a game

without baseball hat. So when Sharon blocked it we weren't even able to read the hearing order

into the record or debate it. She could have voted no but she didn't even want us to bring it up.

So it was very frustrating. And what is this deal with politicians in Massachusetts not wanting

people to know where their money is being spent like what would be the problem with this audit

and for people to get kind of a list of where their money is going and what it's being used on

and in some cases like what we saw with the baseball hats what it's not being used on.

Right we're not prioritizing things and even at the council level when I asked questions

last year I think we talked about how you know a request for information we call them RFIs when

we come in front of the different departments and we ask them specific budget questions.

There were over 300 questions that they just never even bought the answering. So oftentimes even

the power we supposedly have on the council when we ask departments direct questions and we just

have the athletics department in last week and they didn't want to answer a lot of our questions

either. So it's frustrating and I think we have to continue to share and thank you for this

opportunity to share out that to me it's just unacceptable. I filed two hearing orders. One was

an audit and the BPS and city budget because Monday afternoon we finally saw a letter from the

finance department in the city of Austin saying that you know we have some tough times ahead

and then also the audit committee wrote a letter with some concerns. So we know BPS is already

having a $55 million shortfall this year alone just to finish out this school year and we're

heading into budget fees and knowing that departments are going to have to make some deep cuts.

But we're spending what 100 and somewhat million probably 60 million at the low end for white

stadium but baseball teams aren't getting basic equipment I think it's a priority issue and a

management issue. It's obviously money somewhere we have a $1.7 billion dollar school budget.

We're not the bad news bears and I don't think we should expect school athletes and

each individual school to run like a youth sports program where we often rely on neighbors

and parents coaching and you know local restaurants and businesses donating that's the youth

sports and our neighborhoods not BPS athletics. To me it's two totally different things especially

when we're spending over $30,000 per student and we invest less than $100 of that in two athletics

per student so we need to prioritize that for sure. I should mention Aaron that the other city

counselor who you always seem to be on the same page whether most of the time I should say on the

same page with his Ed Flynn are there any other counselors who understand what you're where you're

coming from and are they not hearing from their constituents about these issues like why is it that

you guys are in this uphill battle when most of the things you're bringing up seem like pretty

common sense issues here this should be something that everyone can get on board with this hey we

have a problem we should have transparency we should understand why we can't fund or why we can't

buy baseball hats for the southehybe baseball team right because we obviously have different

I mean as an at large city counselor I represent every resident from the city of Boston so district

counselors obviously have a different base and have a different advocacy but at the end of the day

when all of us say we care about students and we care about our school funding and we do value

athletics and art and theater but then when it comes to a conversation or a vote on let's make

sure we're funding it they don't step up is frustrating so they say one thing so they don't

take a political hit when they go back into their neighborhoods but when it comes to what we're

doing in the council where we actually can make a change and you know change some policies or

call out departments especially here the athletics department should make sure that any

varsity team in the city of Boston no matter what sport it is no wonder what neighborhood

what school they're coming from should have basic equipment fields to practice and play on

transportation to get to games that's not asking too much in my opinion Aaron I wonder and I

talked a little bit about this yesterday when I first I was blown away by the story in the Boston

Harold that you know just it just about Bobby for our having to like run out onto the field of the

last minute and bring these hats and God bless him for doing it and he doesn't have he doesn't have

a career in political office because and this is of course no offense to you because you're an

exception but he gets too much done too quickly I don't think it would be allowed um I have to say

though when I'm feeling I'm hearing also that there is now pushback right to the school or the

coach you know unfortunate way because anytime a teacher wants to we had a hearing on the school

buses 200 million dollars a year but when teachers want to share their frustration that they

sit some days for hours after school with kids you know in wheelchairs and special knee kids

not getting picked up but then they're reprimanded because that's a system where we have to be

and I take my role as an elected official I'm willing to speak up but I know for many people

it can be politically brisky and they don't always do that so chairs to bobby and others

and the community who stepped up and in this case we should be spending the money that we

already have allocated we already have a 1.7 billion dollar school budget

there seems to be a trend and and I'm noticing this with politicians all across the country but

I want you to speak to it here in Boston where we have a lot of people who want to talk about

big ideas or you know big causes or things that are trending on social media that might generate

buzz and they seem almost bored or disinterested yeah and they feel good and they get a lot of validation

but they seem less interested in kind of the minutia and I'm not calling the baseball hats

minutia but they don't seem as interested in things that used to be the bread and butter of what

your local politicians dealt with yeah and it's what the charter states that we have a

strong mayoral system but we have 13 city councilors nine of them come from you know neighborhoods

who can get more in the weeds on development and individual situations and in my case is four of

us at large and our role is checks and balances but also to deliver make sure every resident no

matter where they live no matter what their means are that they're they're getting connected to

basic city services and many times in the agenda yesterday showed it we talked a long time

about a Cardi B day because I think I don't even know what she sings but I think she's having

a concert tonight so we declare Cardi B day in the city of Boston or we talked about the Senegal

independence which all valid conversations but not during the Wednesday council meeting in my

opinion we should not be dictating you know what foreign policy that's congress that's not city council

and if you want to talk about the nuts and bolts colleagues will block you because they know

I mean what is she what we're sharing trying to hide why don't we want to at least talk about

there are baseball teams there are kids showing up to fields without uniforms that should be on

the top of every councilist list of things to talk about and get to the bottom of

yeah if you're just tuning into the city councilor Aaron Murphy and Ed Flynn are calling to

take a closer look at the finances at the city finances the Boston public school finances

and this is amid obviously the budget gap of more than 100 million dollars and it was

objective these two late file orders were objected by councilor Sharon Durkin you just mentioned

this and her her reasoning for I want to read you this from the Boston Harold it said

Durkin who passed on stating why she was objecting to the late file matters when given the opportunity

to do so during the meeting said through a spokesperson afterwards that she didn't see them as

warranting emergency action by the council is that why you think she ejected to this conversation

about auditing this pending and that's just semantics so her council rules you have to call it

an emergency so it doesn't violate open meeting law to file anything after noon on Monday because

it's a 48 hour law that the agenda has to be public to the so if you file it late it won't show

up on the agenda Monday at noon but we can all agree and vote to allow it to come to the floor

which we do often and in this case like I told you the the the the hats for the school baseball team

we found out on Tuesday obviously things happen between Monday at 10 a.m. when our deadline is to

file and Wednesday at noon and then the letter from the finance office that shared that were have

combined hundred million dollars shortfall came on Monday afternoon so both of these were not

out of the realm they were very reasonable hearing orders that clearly there were good reasons why

we couldn't file them in time so they were emergency only because you have to use that language for

them to even be considered for the clerk to allow them to be read into the record but Sharon blocked

it before the clerk could even read them into the record she didn't even allow it to for the council

to take a vote to see what our colleagues thought if these should be heard at this meeting so she

decided like I said I didn't see it as a power move I thought as a bully move she could have allowed

the council to vote and then hear from myself and Ed and then decide where they wanted to go with it

but she blocked it from the start I have one last question for you I'm speaking with city council

Erin Murphy and my question for you is this Boston's chief financial officer Ashley Groffenberger

has said when asked about the 48.4 million dollar budget gap that

overspending on snow removal due to two major winter storms and public safety over time are

contributing to that budget gap do you have any comments on that especially about the snow removal

because it's a big conversation yeah why are we throwing our first responders to make it seem like

they're the fault for budget shortfall I think we have a spending problem and there's also the issue

of the snow I've lived through what 56 winters here in Boston yes we had two snowstorms I wouldn't

call it Amageddon I wouldn't compare it to 2015 I think we have our public's works and we have

equipment and we were prepared to deal with it did we spend overtime of course but we should

have budgeted knowing that any winter can give us two storms it wasn't on reason it wasn't a

crazy winter in my opinion it was cold it was long but we should have budgeted knowing that

it's very reasonable to have two major storms in one winter and if they're afraid of the overtime

budget we have FIFA and we have tall ships and we have a lot of you know 250 events coming to

the city of Boston and myself and council of playing keep raising that yesterday we did file it

was on time so it didn't need to be blocked but a police staffing hearing order to make sure because

we know never mind morale is down lots of police retiring that we need to make sure we continue

to train so that we can offset the need for so much overtime many police don't want to take all

the overtime that they're forced to take well I'm speaking with city councilor at large Aaron

Murphy I appreciate your time counselor and keep up the good work I know that you're I know that

you and Ed Flynn have plenty plenty of work to do here and you're not getting any help for most

of the people that are your co-workers I guess but I we appreciate it and I know the people

know I appreciate it yeah and I'll just say one last thing quickly um yes when Sharon said she

didn't see it as an emergency I think that's embarrassing that a city councilor wouldn't think that

youth sports not having basic equipment isn't an emergency are that a city having a hundred

million dollar budget shortfall where our number one role on the council is financial oversight

and making sure that the budget is balanced and we're not going over so we need the information to

be able to make the decisions and have the you know appropriate information to make good choices

going forward make sure that city services continue to be delivered and we're not laying off city

workers absolutely well said thank you yeah thank you I appreciate the time I hope you come

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well welcome back everyone to the grace curly show thank you for tuning in today thanks for

voting in our poll question inks for your texts we appreciate it all trump gave a speech last night

laying out more plans for ranting in two to three weeks if there's not a deal then we're

going to send the Iranian leadership back to the stone ages the reason I don't like the sound of

that Taylor and it's not because it's not because I'm not in support of taking out this regime it's

not because I'm not in support of all of the bombing that's been going on and taking out their

nuclear capabilities it's more so that the two to three weeks and then we will do something I don't

and I'm hoping I'm hoping that's misdirection and I actually I if I had to bet on it I would say it

is misdirection where when he says two to three weeks I don't think he's giving them two to three

weeks of this of this and that's what we've usually been thinking but I've with every deadline that

has been proposed with this conflict he's kind of stuck to it you know Marco Cleveland from the

Federalist has this long thread I actually would encourage people to check it out but she had this

the retailer that I think is pretty strong which is if you go based off the truth social that I

think and forgive me here my my days are blurring together a little bit but I think he put it out

yesterday morning that there was a deal that he was coming to and that's when the markets were

reacting really positively they thought that the there was a wind down of the swore that he was

talking to ahead of the new regime that he thinks is a lot more a lot less radicalized

and I'm wondering if last night and this is what Margot Cleveland put put out there today I'm

wondering if this speech last night was originally intended to be a speech about this deal that had

been reached and then at the last minute it fell through yet again and so then he had to change it

to you know we're going to give them two more weeks but but I know and I've been saying this the

whole time every time he comes out and says something about negotiations or ceasefire or talks

my instinct is to say something big is about to happen because we have seen that move from Trump

before we have seen him kind of deploy that strategy so I I still think that's a possibility

I just don't see and you know somebody texted in they were like oh this is what we always hear

from builders two to three weeks so we just need two more months it'll be pro it'll be the project

will be complete and I know that's kind of a joke right like if you do a renovation on your house

whatever timeline they give you add on like two or three months but in the case of Trump nobody

wants this to be on schedule and nobody's obsessed with things being on schedule or being

ahead of schedule more than Trump and that does give me a lot of um confidence is that however

antsy I am to see these things happen and happen quickly I know that he's that time's a million you

know like I know that it's almost like Taylor when you have someone when you go to a restaurant

with someone right and there's something that's not right like the the drinks aren't right or the

drinks haven't come out yet or your the service isn't great and you know your personality is to be

annoyed about it but kind of just sit back but then you have that one friend who doesn't have that

personality and who gets up and it's like where's our server I'm gonna go find them you know like

this is ridiculous and you just think oh I'm so glad that they're doing what I want to see done

but I didn't want to be the one to do it that's oftentimes how I feel about Trump it's like whatever

we're feeling here whatever I'm feeling from behind the mic doing this radio show of like well I

hope two to three weeks I hope that they they start making some moves before then he's already

chomping at the bit for this to be over and so that actually is a good thing because it's like

if you feel like you're not patient for this stuff he's less patient than you are do you get what I'm

saying yeah absolutely he wants he wants a good resolution obviously and he wants it quickly as

he promised this was going to be a quick in and out kind of surgical tactical operation um

yeah things come up that take a little bit longer uh people don't submit as soon as you'd like

them to but they're also dealing with a lot of change over there and establishing who's in charge

and I I think there was a hope on the president's behalf and a lot of the American people that the

people of Iran would take this opportunity and revolt against the iatola and the leadership

in a much larger fashion um I think maybe the timing on that wasn't exactly right because they

were doing that before we struck and I don't know maybe they're sitting back saying well America's

doing all the work for us what do we need to do um I think they were looking for more of that

reaction but I don't we'll see we'll see yeah a lot of this stuff is waiting to see and people are

commenting that there's you know panic over the markets it's overblown I never jump on that

I'm never going to panic over at the stock market I just think you have to this is the name of the

game if you're someone who's freaked out about a short downturn um and we know there are people

like that because there have been people like that throughout this entire administration there

have been people like that with um with the tariffs and I remember hearing from those people as

well so I don't really listen to that noise but I will say that I just I hope that the two to three

week talk is I think there's going to be a lot of things that happened before I don't think it's

two weeks of like hey wait and see whatever I hope they keep making progress and they keep doing

what they've been doing so far I think they will um I wanted to mention we have this report that

Pam Bondy it's official she's out as a g she's going back to Florida she was told yesterday

before this speech that we're talking about and Trump actually put out a true social about it

Taylor has offered to read this he gave me a few options now this is what's really cool about Taylor

is it's like going to an ice cream shop he's like what flavor do you want you know how would you

like this made he said to me would you rather me do it as Trump as when he the poo or as Mark

Levin those are kind of his three strongest impressions I'm going to choose to just because it

is Trump's true social it only seems right Pam Bondy is a great American patriot and a loyal friend

who faithfully served as my attorney general over the past year Pam did a tremendous job overseeing

a massive crackdown in crime across our country with murders plummeting to their lowest level since 1900

we love Pam and she'll be transitioning to a much needed and important new job in the private

sector to be announced at a date in the near future and our deputy attorney general and a very

talented and respected legal mind Todd Blatch will be stepping in to serve as acting attorney general

thank you for your attention to this matter president Donald J. Trump

now could you just very quickly give me um whose reaction to that true social oh bother this is

most troubling news I was hoping crime in the hundred acre wood would plummet a bit further

somebody storm my honey this morning also who was a fan of Pam Bondy okay good and we we have to

figure out where all these characters side in this hypothetical world created by the one and only

Taylor Cormier on a very serious note here I got to read this story out of New York two stories

actually I tease this earlier in the show and wouldn't you know I'm actually coming back to

something I tease who would have thought I want to start with this heart wrenching heart wrenching

update a seventh month old seven months seven month old girl was shot dead in her stroller by a

stray bullet while walking with her parents in Brooklyn with cops now looking for a pair of

moped riding thugs this is from the New York Post sources said the tauts mom heard the shots

rushed her daughter into a nearby bodega for shelter and then looked down at the stroller in

saw blood there's actually footage of this it's in the New York Post it is so so awful um the tragic

the tragedy continues the the youngster was rushed by ambulance to a hospital she was pronounced

dead and it says here that the two suspected gunmen sped off with a person of interest now in custody

and a massive manhunt for the second suspect underway the police started coming in this is from

a witness the police started coming in there was so much chaos I heard the beep once I heard the

beep I knew it was flatlining and the baby was gone that was um from a witness who was at the scene

as the taut was brought to the hospital chilling surveillance photos show the shooter firing from

the back of the moped while the driver speeds away now that's one horrible story out of Brooklyn

and I wanted to give you all an update on the case of Jonathan Diller who was the NYPD hero

father husband who was killed it says an explosive verdict was reached Wednesday night in the

slaying of hero NYPD cop Jonathan Diller with the jury acquitting the shooter of the top charge

of first degree murder and settling on manslaughter guy Rivera was the one who fatally shot the officer

and outside a cell phone store in Queens two years ago and this was huge I remember a Taylor

not only because of just the tragic nature of it and being so heartbroken for his wife

but also because I believe and I've been talking a little bit about Dave Portney recently

he raised a tremendous amount of money for the widow in this case and it got a lot of attention on

the news um he was convicted on all lesser charges including aggravated manslaughter attempted

murder of Diller's partner in weapons reps cops were investigating a suspicious vehicle when

Rivera shot Diller and had a gun pointed at a police sergeant's chest when another officer at

the scene shot and wounded the goon that would be Guy Rivera authority said with the drama captured

on heart-shopping body cam footage and I just wanted to read some of the quotes here okay from

the killers I'm sorry from Guy Rivera's lawyer during his closing arguments defense attorney

Jamal Johnson claimed that Rivera didn't intend to shoot and kill Diller he tried to swage her

away from the top charge by insisting that the prosecution failed to establish beyond a reasonable

doubt that his client meant to kill Diller which is required for a murder conviction he said Diller's

partner allegedly reached into the vehicle before the gunfire to grab Rivera's firearm and

argued that the ensuing struggle caused the gun to accidentally discharge now I was reading all

of that and that I can totally buy as far as his defense you know that's right you're you're there

to defend this person you're this is a plausible way clearly worked with the jury but listen to

these quotes okay from the defense attorney he also tried to turn the tables by blaming the other

cops at the scene for Diller shooting death all of the command response team officers in this case

they are invested Johnson told the jury they have a motive to lie you see this is what happens when

you're stopping people and you're doing it in a dishonest way and we're going to speak the truth

here today he added this is how detailed we have to be in our fight for justice now the prosecutor

in this case Kazinsky ripped the defenses claim that Rivera a career criminal with 21 prior bus

was the victim of a police cover up and you know he tried his best to decimate that

that argument but the fact that you're looking at these cops and you're saying oh they're invested

in this well yeah well Jonathan Diller was killed now leaves behind a wife and kids but beyond that

they have a motive to lie the cops have a motive to lie how about the guy who's on trial

for shooting at officers and killing one of them you don't think he has a motive to lie

and I know this is just what lawyers do but I was reading the story I'm like I just the world is so

crazy everything so backwards and when I was reading this story I was reminded a lot of the

story of Nicholas O'Malley who's now going through this very intense trial and he's being

criticized in Monday morning quarterback for shooting a man who had car jacked a woman and we

haven't seen the body can't put a jet but it seems like he was trying to mope mope this officer in

his partner down and he was definitely acting aggressively towards the cops and at one point

Nicholas O'Malley says to him I'm gonna shoot you almost as a like pleading for him to please stop

what you're doing because I'm going to be forced to shoot you and that's what ended up happening the

guy lost his life the guy died and now Nicholas O'Malley is public enemy number one and thankfully

the cops they all showed up all his fellow officers showed up to support him and defend him I think

it was 50 people showed up to to the trial at least on the first day um but I keep seeing these

stories and I'm like it's a wild thing when the aggressors when the when the bad actors who

were shooting at the cops whether they succeeded kill the cop or whether we just have to think maybe

they would have they become the victims either way they're the person they're the aggrieved party I

guess in the eyes of the law it's like in the case of dealer that person guy Rivera shot dealer and

killed him and he's still supposed to be getting the sympathy here and in the case of Nicholas O'Malley

Nicholas O'Malley you know didn't die he didn't get shot he didn't get run over but because he

defended himself or because he he made a decision a split second decision to stop this guy before

that could happen he's also the bad guy and I'm telling you guys you know this is stuff you already

know but I just didn't we have didn't we just cover a police involved shooting earlier this week

or last week where a cop said the same thing like I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot you but it's it's not

like he wants to that's that's just the warning that he's giving yes and after we covered that

someone did texted and said that's exactly what this cop was trying to get through to this person

is like please do not please listen please just listen to the cops so then they don't have to make

that split second decision but what's crazy is the cops try to warn people hey if you don't stop

if you don't put your hands up if you don't if you don't stop this behavior I'm going to shoot you

they don't stop the behavior in some cases in the case of Nicholas home alley that's from what

I've read that's what happened it escalates in the case of Renee good it escalates and the cops

bear all of the blame and then they become best case scenario they get they they don't get convicted

oh no I will say this best case scenario they don't get convicted worst case scenario they don't

do anything and they die and when they die by the way they don't get a lot of sympathy from the

social justice warriors they don't get a lot of sympathy from the progressive left you're not a lot

of tears for these cops who are leaving their families without husbands and fathers and sons

and all that it's and sometimes wives it's just it's just it's infuriating and I know there's

plenty of stuff out there about cops especially here in Massachusetts and corruption and and I get

that but I'm gonna back the blue because these men and women are they're doing a really hard

job I mean I just started this off by reading a story about a seventh month old in Brooklyn who

was shot dead in a drive-by shooting and this is what these cops whether it's in Massachusetts or

New York or dealing with and it would be nice if we had their backs once in a while we'll be right

back we got more to discuss on the other side

welcome back everyone thank you for tuning in I got to mention this too we're talking about

backing the blue we're talking about these officers and the tremendous stress that they are under

and then the peanut gallery after the fact saying well when that guy who hijacked a woman was in his

vehicle and you know driving erratically and not listening to your orders couldn't you have just

shot out the tire or when Renee good you know turned her car to do a three-point turn couldn't

you just gotten out of the way they don't really get the support that they deserve in those critical

situations and I was talking to someone the other day I think it was on on a on a TV hit and they

said that defunding ice which is becoming a more popular slogan for the left at least they think

it's popular is the new defund the police and defund the police backfired in a major way for

Democrats in the past in the last election between Trump and Kamala Harris and I'm curious if

they're going to keep up this energy with ice I'm curious if they're going to continue to

support abolishing that's the term they use a lot abolishing the men and women who are trying

to clean up the disaster that was brought in under Joe Biden and on that front I do have an

update and this comes from Virginia the governor of Virginia Abigail Spamberger who's been making

a lot of waves for her huge huge back flips over the last month they have decided to repeal an

executive order requiring state law enforcement cooperation with ice to tears so that's your

update on the moderate Democrats I'll see you all tomorrow how he carts his shoot him in the