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We'll talk about the Celtics' defensive strategy, but let's just dive into this game.
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The big overarching story is the Celtics got the best game yet from the Jays.
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Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, has started with Jason Tatum playing really, really well.
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Early on, he scored the first, I think five points.
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He just looked great.
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And then Jalen Brown took over from there.
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In the first quarter, it was Tatum hit three of five from three scored nine points, but
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So Brown did everything right in the first quarter, actually did everything right in this
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I thought he's been playing extraordinarily well lately.
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And after the game, he explained, they were staying home on the shooters.
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They were paying the shooters a lot of respect.
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They didn't want the warriors, because they're so short-handed, especially, are playing
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The way they're going to win is limit you from three and bomb away from three on their
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side and try to beat you with math.
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And so they stayed home on shooters and just encouraged Jalen to just attack and take
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This is the second time the Warriors and Celtics has been some version of, all right, Jalen,
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what do you got for us?
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And the first time it was we're going to let him shoot.
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That was what last season two seasons ago, one last season.
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And then early last season, right?
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And then this time it's just like, we're just going to stay home on the shooters and you
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You do what you got to do.
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And he drops 19 in the first quarter.
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So the overall combined night from Jalen and Jason is 56 combined points.
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They had 16 combined rebounds, seven assists, they had three steals combined.
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So it was for Jalen and Jason, I mean, obviously limited sample, but the best, absolute best
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they've we've seen them play at the same time.
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And it's a little scary, it should be a little scary for the league, right?
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That this is happening already.
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This is already we're talking about Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown combining for 56.
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That's not supposed to be happening yet.
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And I know I've been saying this already, maybe for those of you who are with me every
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day, Monday through Friday, you every dayers, you might be sick of me saying this, but maybe
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not because it's Jason Tatum and he's back and how is he back?
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How is he doing this?
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Jalen has been phenomenal, he's expanding his game.
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I like that he scored 32 in this game and had a well-rounded game, efficient 11 for 20 overall,
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one of four from three, but nine of nine from the line.
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He got on the offensive boards and grabbed a couple of those.
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He just did some of everything.
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I like that after 19 points in the first quarter, he didn't force it.
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He didn't go and say, oh, maybe I'm on, you know, on my way to a 50 piece or a 60 piece
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and try to force something or 80, but he just played with himself, gave the game when
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it needed as something Joe Mozilla loves to say nowadays and is really just playing his
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best basketball right now.
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And Jason, obviously he's playing his best basketball because he's only played, what's
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I've lost count, but he keeps looking better and better.
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I'm not supposed to be talking about these guys combining for 56 yet.
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That was something that maybe, maybe it happened at the end of April, maybe, maybe it happened
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in the playoffs, possibly, to be talking about it now, this early in the process, I don't
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know if you're going to get sick of it, I'm not going to get sick of it by saying I just
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continue to be just amazed at the progress.
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But to watch these two kind of work off of one another, to see the shot falling for Jason
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Tatum, but also the defense, also the passing, the play, the ball movement, it was great
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Part of the reason why Jalen got going was Jason was attacking and drawing two and drawing
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And he got him a couple of open looks and that's just something they're going to get
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It's not fair for the rest of the league to have, okay, well, Jalen now has Jason Tatum
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And Jason is going to have Jalen has Jalen to get him going.
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So this is something that I didn't think I'd see until, honestly, the beginning of next
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So it was great to see that the, the jays were able to play this well, this soon Tatum,
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seven of 15 shooting, five of 11 from three, five of six from the free throw line.
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That free throw, the free throws are going to be the thing that tell us that he's truly
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It's taking six, seven, eight, nine, then you're, you're looking at, oh, okay, Tatum, Tatum
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is, is, is getting closer to Jason Tatum again, because if he's drawing the contact, getting
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and ones, that, that's going to be the, the Jason Tatum that's, that's like, oh, oh,
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oh, he's, that guy's back now, I can't, that might happen on Friday night, it might happen
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on Sunday for all I know.
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I wouldn't expect it.
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I wouldn't have normally expected it, but here we are.
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The Celtics put up 120 points, and part of that is bench production, Peyton Pritchard,
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19 points, great to see him, excuse me, I'm getting all choked up over Peyton Pritchard's
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shot being back, eight of 16, three of seven from three.
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He went through some struggles recently, and you start hearing people like, oh, Jason
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comes back and Peyton starts struggling, and, excuse me, that might be some, somewhat
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the case, but the, even if it was because Jason came back, that was never anything to worry
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I never even brought it up as a real talking point because you had to give it time to
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Jason, Jason getting up to full speed certainly is a priority for the Celtics, and there
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may have to be a little bit of shifting from the normal game plan to, let's just, let's
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just make sure that Tatum is getting up to speed here.
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Maybe it's play calls, maybe it's distribution of the minutes when he plays, when he sits,
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but I honestly, I think that might be an antiquated notion at this point.
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There's going to be some of it here and there, but the acclimation period, reacclimation
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period, the reentry into the Celtics rotation, the growing pains have, I think, started to,
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you're starting to get past those.
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So Pritchard is back, hitting his shots.
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The chemistry with the Miish Keta looks good.
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Tatum and Keta have figured out a little bit of a flow, so that's good.
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Shout out to Keta, who was in foul trouble, this wasn't exactly his most dominant game
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or anything like that, but, you know, 8.7 rebounds, three offensive rebounds.
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You did get a steal.
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The chemistry between him and Tatum is a good kind of sign of progression between these
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And it shows how quickly, how smart these guys are because of how quickly they're able
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to get everything in place, everything together.
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Pritchard finding his shot and getting back up to speed is great.
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He led the team plus 25, so inside, outside, everything he had everything working in this
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Luca Garza was great, six of 10 overall, one of two from three.
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Why does it feel like he hit more than one three pointer in this game?
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He was really good.
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And it was great to hear him talk about the way everybody kind of rallied around him
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after the Vouchavitch trade and said, hey, stay ready.
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We're going to need you.
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You've been great for us.
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We're going to need you again.
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And that's just the testament to what this team really is.
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I'll probably talk about that more in future podcasts, but it's just a testament.
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Why are they so ahead of the curve?
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Why are they exceeding expectations?
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Why did Steve Kerr before the game say, I'm blown away by these Celtics?
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It's because of this locker room and how good they are and how they just trust each
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other and respect one another.
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And that's what fuels guys like Luca Garza.
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Who is a self starter, a self motivator, but it's been great for him.
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It's been great for him to hear these guys how they rallied around him.
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And here he is, 15 points, seven rebounds, four offensive rebounds, a great night, three
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And poking the ball away from Dream on Green, posting up.
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That's incredible to see.
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So great night for the Jays, the best night for the Jays, great contributions off the bench.
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Baylor Shireman was good.
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The defensive game plan was let Dream on shoot.
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Let's get into more of the individual stuff and the game plan will do that when we come
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Other individual players here that I thought had nice productions, I talk about Baylor
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has been able to do a little bit of everything and he gets that 24 and a half minutes, even
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though he scores three points, the three pointer that he hit was big.
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That was the one after a steal.
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It was kind of a crazy play and he finished that, the three, you get the thumbs up from
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I love that he went in there and dove for a loose ball, even with that fractured thumb.
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He's grabbing at it, but he was in there doing his thing.
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Okay, nothing special.
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That's the other guy that I need to talk about.
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Derek White, coming off of, by the way, a nice little appearance on the tonight show, Jimmy
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That was good to see.
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Nice to see Dwight getting some love there.
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11.6 assists, three steals and a block, so four stocks for him.
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So not a ton of shots, but didn't need them.
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Obviously, they won by 21 and they put up 120 points.
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But giving the game what it needs, Joe Mizzula, trademark Joe Mizzula, the beginning of
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the fourth quarter, the steals, where the defense was really what kind of held off the
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warriors and he had a shame that the foul kind of negated the play because he had that
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great move, that spin and finish.
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But anyway, he was really good.
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Fourth quarter, Derek White, just whatever happens in the first three quarters.
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Fourth quarter, Derek White is just a beast.
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And you now have the luxury of 11 points from Derek White.
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That's, I think the net effect of Jason and Jalen being so good now that Derek having
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a, okay, eight shots.
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The problem eight shots is fine because somebody else is stepping up at Peyton.
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You got, you know, Luca, those guys are doing, you know, when they're doing that thing,
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then Derek is just like, you know what, I'm just going to dish it out, you know, that
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Or I'm going to play defense.
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I'm going to start the offense and just kind of space and occupy a defender and if somebody
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wants to hug up on me, then by all means, you guys go ahead and drive.
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So you know, a nice little game from Derek White, defensively, the Celtics, it seemed
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like they were just going to let Dremond shoot as often as he wanted.
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And when Dremond is, well, Christophe took 13 shots, then Dremond took 12 and Dremond
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is your second leading shot taker.
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That's not his job.
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He was three of seven from three, which is, is good, but the, the misses, the allowance,
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the go ahead, go ahead, take, take whatever shots you want Dremond, go for it.
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That just throws the, the offense for the Warriors off and they, they were missing so many
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Obviously no curry, no, who else is there?
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I know Jimmy Butler, obviously.
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The other curry, both curries are out.
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No al-Horfer, no Moses Moody.
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So there weren't a lot of options for the Warriors.
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The last thing you want to do is have Dremond turn into an assist machine.
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He did have five, but you don't want to have a seven, eight, nine assist night for, for
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You end up getting killed.
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It was already bad enough to hear all the gushing over Pat Spencer and those guys and, you
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know, some of the contributions they were getting.
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You don't want Dremond to turn into a facilitator and making everybody better and, and taking
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away the opportunity to, to pull away.
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The Celtics got up by 26 and then they fell behind, they, they, they gave up most of it
19:11
or some, a lot of it, they got down to, I think the game got down to eight or six
19:16
at one point, but they were never really, really in any trouble.
19:21
And I just feel like they didn't have to overextend themselves.
19:29
It was interesting at the beginning of the game that they started Jason Tatum on
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Chris Stops, Pursingus.
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It's a, you know, a great, a great play, a great decision because it allowed Namiish
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cater to Rome and, you know, Nami got a couple of, well, one block off of that.
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But a couple of challenges of shots off of that.
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So I thought that was a good defensive strategy.
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Going back to Jason Tatum, now that I mentioned KP, I thought the, the drive that he had
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on Pursingus, which was, I want to say in the third quarter, maybe, they, you know,
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the drive, I think he started driving right, crossover, finish on the left hand side.
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And, you know, he taps KP on the butt and he goes out back to the bench.
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He gives it like a, whoo, you know what I mean?
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Like that kind of, I can't believe I just pulled that move off.
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That's a great sign.
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That might have been the best move of the night just because it was Tatum and he got
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Jason has now driven past Wemba Niyama and past Christoph Pursingus.
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He's taking the tallest dudes in the league off the dribble and finishing.
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So that was, that was a great play.
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So good, good defensive strategy.
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Very, you know, very few options for the Warriors and Joe just kind of said, we're not
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going to let those few options go too crazy on us.
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So they, they just did a good job defensively here.
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Kristoff's forzingus was back.
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They did a nice video tributes.
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He said he wasn't going to cry.
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He didn't cry, but you could tell he was feeling good.
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He's an emotional guy.
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Maybe he was fighting back the tears.
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Nice tribute for KP.
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He was only here for a couple of seasons, but it was in a very impactful couple of seasons
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and sell this guy what they needed.
25:34
And he said before the game, you know, it's been a tough year, but he says he's healthy
25:40
So whatever it was, I don't know, Steve Kerr said it wasn't.
25:44
Whatever they said it was and who knows, it's so mysterious.
25:48
But whatever it was, it's gone now, apparently, KP feels fine.
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He said he's kind of like a renewed love for the game, which is great.
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That's what you need.
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And so it was good to see him out there for a while.
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It looked like, oh no, he might actually be having a revenge game here.
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But it was just a nice, it was nice to see him back that moment with Tatum, him, KP with
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Baylor Shireman kind of like squeezing his arm to be like, oh, you put some muscle on
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That was a nice fun moment for him.
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And yeah, it was just good to see him back.
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It was also good to see Robert Parrish in the house.
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Obviously, if you missed the Robert Parrish interview, I got him on Sunday.
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So we talked to him on Sunday.
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It was a great conversation about his book, The Chief, a lot of non-basketball talk.
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Because the whole point of the book is letting you in on the person that Robert Parrish is.
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But he was there, he talked to the media before the game.
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He was at the game.
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Big standing ovation.
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Really nice to see.
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He got to talk to Jason Tatum.
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Jaylen Brown said he didn't talk to him.
27:08
I think Robert Parrish might stick around this week.
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He's got book signings all week long.
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So there's one Thursday.
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I think Thursday one is in Nashua and the Friday one is in Wellesley.
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And I think it's going to be at the game this weekend.
27:28
So Jaylen is going to have a chance to meet him.
27:32
These are guys that could be back at some point.
27:37
Although Jaylen was funny.
27:41
Because after the game, he said, you know, he was asked about being in Robert Parrish's
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Robert Parrish is 70, I think he's 71 now.
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So Jaylen very clearly is not thinking that far along.
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He turns 30 before next season.
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So he's not really thinking about 40 plus years away.
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But side note, I can just speak as a person who's lived more than 40.
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More than 50 years, it goes by fast, Jaylen.
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It goes by really fast, faster than you want it to.
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But the funniest thing is he said, you know, I want to say, you never know what's going
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But I want to say that once I'm gone, you'll never see me again.
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And which is an interesting, he's such an interesting dude that, you know, you'll never
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And you know, Gary Washburn asked him, like, is it going to be, so it's, you think it's
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going to be fade to black after you retire?
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And he's like, yeah, you never know.
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But that's, yeah, he just wants to disappear and never be back and never be back around
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Boston and all of that.
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He just wants to go.
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And it makes perfect sense for, for Jaylen.
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That's kind of, seems like the type of person that he is.
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He's going to experience the world.
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He's going to be thankful for his time in Boston.
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He's going to, he'll probably come back and visit the neighborhood unexpectedly from
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But I don't think he's going to be coming back to the arena.
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Then again, I say that now, he's going to, they're going to retire his number.
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So he'll be back to retire his number.
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Like, that's definitely happening.
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Jaylen Brown's, like, no one else is wearing the number seven, right?
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That Jason Taylor, no one else is wearing zero.
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So those, they're going to have to be back for those moments.
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Jaylen is going to have to come back for that.
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But I don't know if he's going to want to come back, he's going to miss it, right?
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Everybody, everybody who's played basketball misses it.
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You want to go back and soak up the love.
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You want to remember what it's like.
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You can't tell me that Jaylen is just going to be, you know, off around the world and
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just, okay, that there's never going to be another crowd of 19, 20,000 people standing
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up and cheering for you, you think, you're just going to be okay with that?
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I don't know, man, that's, that's a, that's a hell of a drug, man, the, the, the adulation
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That's, you can say it now because you're in it, and I feel like I'm talking directly
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to Jaylen, but not that he listens to this at all, but you can say it now because it's
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aggrined and you're going through everything and ups and downs of everything, but you're
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retired in your 30s, you're 50, you're 60, you come around, you're going to be like,
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no, man, I miss, I miss the crowd, I miss the love, and you'll find a reason, you'll
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find a reason to come back, they'll find a way.
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There's always going to be some honoring of the championship team.
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So, you know, in 2034, 2044, they're going to, they're going to want to honor these teams.
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I don't think Jaylen's just going to, you know, dip and be like, no, you guys celebrate
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Come on, you're going to celebrate with your teammates, you're going to soak up the love
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every once in a while, he'll be back.
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He may not be back, but it's good to see chief and it's good that, you know, these guys
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do appreciate the legend, you know, and seeing these legends come back and, you know,
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appreciating what the guys did before them because they set the tone.
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You don't get paid when you get paid if it wasn't for these guys, people like Robert
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