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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Sandra Daley.

Founder of Destiny Executive Enterprise D Inc., joins Money Making Conversations Masterclass to share insights on entrepreneurship, cybersecurity, and personal growth. As the leader of one of the fastest-growing global IT companies in the USA, she focuses on helping individuals, institutions, and governments elevate their brands.

🔑 Key Themes & Highlights

  1. Entrepreneurship & Business Growth

    • Sandra's company specializes in IT solutions, cybersecurity, and digital transformation.
    • She emphasizes the importance of strategic planning, branding, and scaling businesses effectively.
    • Her firm helps companies increase their brand visibility and market positioning by 10 times through innovative strategies.
  2. Background & Personal Journey

    • Originally from Antigua, Caribbean, Sandra migrated to the U.S. at age 15.
    • Her career path shifted from law and aviation to computer science and cybersecurity after mentors recognized her strengths in STEM fields.
    • She worked for aerospace companies before launching her own IT firm.
  3. Book: Delete@

    • The book guides readers through reprogramming negative thinking, breaking repetitive cycles, and embracing intentional growth.
    • Sandra overcame language barriers and self-doubt to write the book despite grammar challenges.
    • The key message: Delete negativity and replace it with actionable steps toward success.
  4. Cybersecurity & Digital Protection

    • Sandra shares tips for protecting personal data, avoiding scams, and securing digital devices.
    • Encourages individuals to utilize security features on phones, download protection apps, and use services like LifeLock.
    • Advises against clicking suspicious links or engaging with unknown digital sources.
  5. Mindset & Overcoming Fear

    • She discusses the toxic mind loop—how repeating negative thoughts can hinder success.
    • Emphasizes the power of mentorship, faith, and self-awareness in breaking harmful mental habits.
    • Encourages resetting daily routines, reprogramming thought patterns, and embracing a fearless mindset.

📘 Resources & Contact Information
Sandra’s work and book are available through:
🔗 Website: https://deenterprise.com/
🔗 Social Media: @SandraDaley

 

 

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Until one day, a group of stewardesses spark a revolution that reshapes America. Come to The Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In February of 2024, celebrated illustrator and children's book author, Patreon Mathers and her husband Michael, mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they had died by suicide. Dear Hunnies, this is goodbye. By the time you get the shalliter of both Petra and I will be dead. Just stop Wonderland. Why did they do it? What did it do to the people they left behind? Listen to death of an artist on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my show. I'm Richa McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass. When we encourage people to stop reading other people's success stories and start planning your own. Now, you don't want to miss an episode, so please take a moment right now to follow or subscribe

to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. It's free. You can follow me on I Heart Radio app, Spotify, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts. New Money Making Conversations Masterclass episodes drop daily. I want to keep you on alert because my guests provide tips on how you can uplift your community, improve your financial planning, motivation or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur. Now let's get this podcast started. My guest is the founder of Destiny Executive Enterprise, de-incorporated. He is one of the fastest growing global IT companies in the USA. The mission is to help individuals, institutions and governments to explore all possible options evolved to the next level and ultimately elevate their brand by 10 times. On the show today, we were also discussing her background and new book, Delete That. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass Sandra Daley. How you doing Sandra? I am doing excellent today.

Thank you for having me. Okay. Got to hear that out the way because I hear a nice little accent there Sandra. Where are you from originally? Oh wow. Your good workshop is I informed the little island in Antigua, named Antigua in the Caribbean. Oh great. So how long have you been in the States? Will you born there and you lived here? Give me some history there. Give me some history. Oh wow. I was born and raised in the Caribbean till I was about 15. And you know, it's everybody's dream to come to America. Right. My mom migrated and brought all her children. I'm educated in the US from high school all the way to college. And I've been here since I was 15. Miss Daley, life is full of challenges and writing this book Delete That. The personal challenges that you had to confront and order the right of book like Did Delete That. Will you able to overcome them and how did you do those challenges as they were put forth in you throughout your whole life? You know, born and raised in the Caribbean, even though it was British rule, we didn't

English was in my first language. So even when I was in school and we were taught English on the playground at lunchtime, I was speaking what they call Pac-Wah, broken English. English is not my favorite subject. And one of the things, one of the challenges, the people who know me and know me well like my husband and their friends. And like you wrote a book because they know I have tools, I have grammar issues, I have all manner of things over, put things away, say things, but I didn't let it stop me. And when I heard in my spirit, Delete That, and I deleted it, I heard God say I want you to write a book, Delete That, and I kind of like what? So the people who are watching me, I want you to know you may hear me and I'm passionate because I'm living this and I'm going through this, but I had to overcome my own fear of grammar and writing a book and does anybody want to hear it?

You have something that you're put here to do and you're fearful because it goes at the very weakness you're trying to hide and overcome that nobody. I said, get up and do it. I did it. Delete That, not delete that negativity on your mind. Take your time. Ain't nobody running and rushing you. Start today. Awesome. We still got that accent. You rocking. You're rocking. Now, you know, always like the stem is a big thing in the world, especially people of color. And you have a global IT company that's your building. Tell me how did you get into that particular stem area and what I'm and the company that you're developing? Wow. My education, my background, you know, always wanted to be a lawyer. Then I wanted to be a pilot. But when I got to school, I wanted to be all these things. But when I got into college, I was good with math and science. And I had a dear teacher on when my husband is from a military Marine Corps.

We were stationed in Buford, South Carolina. And I went to the technical college of the low country there. And I had a math teacher that saw my skills and said, you know, there's a new scene forming computer science. I think you'll be good in that. But start with electrical science first. So I started with electrical science. And then I migrated to computer science. And I've worked for various aerospace companies found my niche and never looked back and ended up inside of security. And while I was working, I was moving light and helping other businesses with their item. That's how I landed over starting my own company. You know what I like throughout your misdali common sense? Oh, yes. You got a lot of it. I've got a lot of people out there don't have the common sense to just understand. This is how you should do it. But a lot of people want to have that lottery mentality. They put too much weight in religion, which I'm saying.

God has to have faith, but you got to work. Got to have a plan. Got to have a budget. Why do people keep making these same mistakes and how can we help them? It's just human nature, you know, even in the womb when it's time to come out, you know, how we press forward. Right. And just who we are. But even the Bible tells us faith without works is that. And the Bible speaks a lot about wisdom, having wisdom, not only wisdom, but getting an understanding. I think a lot of us is walking, I think maybe too gullible or too greedy. Right. It's been eight to man. So we don't listen. We don't get the right information and then when we get the information, we don't get right understanding. And then the last thing I would say is mentors, you know, listening to people have gone before you and learned some their mistakes. And I've just believed too much in the water or the cool aid we done mixed files. I'm still wondering. I. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money making conversations.

Masterclass. Now I need for you to do me a favor. Right now, follow or subscribe to money making conversation. It's free. And you can find it on the iHeartRadio app, Spotify, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Please do me that favor. Follow or subscribe, money making conversations. Welcome back to money making conversation. Masterclass hosted by me, Rashan McDonald. Let's get back into it. Yeah, drinking too much. Cool. They can't be bad for your teeth and your diet. Cyber security. I am telling you right now, I get so many emails, I get so many texts. How can I protect myself? You and the world of cybersecurity. Are you in the corporate world or can you talk to everyday listeners like me who just tied up people just bugging us and how can we avoid scams? The first thing you want to do is understand the device that's in your hand.

And I would say the device that you use your hands to, which is your phone. There are a lot of security features on the phone that you can actually go in and turn off. So it would help. That's your first line of defense. As said, the second line of defense is watch where you go. Meaning digitally, the sites, the things you download on your phone. There are a lot of apps you can actually put on your phone to help an extra barrier of security. And if you don't know, because many people really don't know too lazy to know or take the time, they are free apps and services out there that they can go and get their name removed off of the internet or add that extra barrier of security. As a limited 20 dollars a month, you can download an app or get a service, a 90 service, service security to help protect even life lock is one service that you can use. But there are many more that need, I mean, we go on the internet for everything.

I call it YouTube, what they call it, the University of YouTube. You can learn almost anything on YouTube to protect yourself. But we want it. You know, we go on the for recipes and gossip, but there's much more on it to help you and with the question you ask. Well, she is the queen of common sense. She's my guest Sandra Daly. She is the founder of Destiny, Destiny, executive enterprise D Inc. is the fastest growing global IT company in the USA. Their mission is to help individuals, institution and government governments to explore all possible options, basically building a brand 10 times. And I was just going to lay you queen of common sense because I love talking to people who just break it down to a point where everybody understands it. Your book delete that. Let me just give a quick summary to everybody. The books walks through complete inner reprogramming to identify areas of living on autopilot, which a lot of people do. They do it in relationships. They do it with their own personal structure.

They die. It's a knock off diet. They eat and have it. That can be autopilot. Repeating the same negative patterns. Speaking of reacting in ways that contradict the life you're trying to build. Listening to me, people, am I talking to you? Because she's about to talk to you. Sabotaging your progress and shrinking beneath the weight of your past. Not all relationship. Regretting things you've done in the past. This is what we're talking about. Am I on the right page with you, Miss David? You are so on the right page. And the way you end it is where we start. We regret and then repeat. Let me tell you. There's a saying that if you don't learn from history, we're doomed to repeat it. So the past has its place. But we're here in the present and we have a future to go look forward to. So why not secure that? But learn from the past. And what I said, people regret what they're repeating. And the point of the book is to not only my journey, but to help people learn how to

put everything in its place. A place for everything and everything in its place. The past of its place, within our end of the present, and it's never too late to turn the page, never. But people won't turn that page. They'll just stand there and they'll feel they try to gain sympathy about mistakes they may or fear of change. I think it's a lack of understanding. You know, most people really don't listen. I want to cousin that telling me, listen, Sandra, people know when they're wrong. South-ellen people when they're wrong, people know when they're wrong. You have to show them how to come out and make a turn. And it got to allow you to turn at any time. But we ask people, we at Laidzie, my friend, we don't want to do the work. And the number one work is to look at yourself, something that's in everyone and everybody

else, and look at yourself of why you are repeating what you keep regretting. You preach it that day. And then you know, here's the front of everybody. I don't get what I'm saying. You can't act in. The more you get fired up, the more you back in the island, the more you get to you. I came over without 15. You there, now, girl, you guys up and keep preaching. Because the comments say you preach and you make me feel comfortable. I want you to feel comfortable. Let's get back on the book, delete that, because I want people to understand the value of this book. Can negative thinking really begin in the womb? Yes, it can. And let me tell you, this book is full of research because I just been, I'm a born again believer, but I just didn't want by, by the verses. I want people to know that even in the world, they have recognized that negativity can

start in the womb. And then lots of research that says that what the baby here, what they listen to, one of the first organs, and we should say that's developed is the brain. The power center of that baby. And there are lots of research that show that when positive or positivity, the baby comes out already knowing the mother's voice, knowing the father's voice, the baby could come out already having issues and thoughts in the womb. So when you want to delete a lot of things, there are things that we need to trace and track on these negative patterns. And sometimes you have to go back to where you were cooked, where you were baked, the environment you were in before you breed your first breath into this universe. I think that's important. I know in high school, I was, did a report on, you know, drug addicted babies. You know, babies who came out because of the toxic drug used by the parents or the mom.

And that impacted the child physically. There's a known fact that people who are depressed can naturally live a shorter life. It impacts their heart. So naturally, me, if you're, if the carrier and also the person who is impacting the carrier of the child, that lifestyle can create a multiple of somber, distant, franchise life for the child who's in the womb, when the child comes out, that child can react naturally to what it has been experiencing. That's what you're saying, correct? Yeah. And most, most people, this thing is so ingrained in the soul that most people don't even know there's a genesis to their behavior. There is something that has happened. There are ways that things are passed on in the genes. Have you ever seen a son or daughter act like they're dead and they're dead? Right, right, right. It already passed down. So we have genes, things that passed on in your genes. These people, things that come down in your bloodline, right?

You see that cycle in your auntie, in your, on your, your mom, and your dad. And when it's like mother like daughter, like father, like son, this thing is deep. It's not normal. But we chewed it like it's normal. They're things that we do as coping mechanism and don't realize that we are harming ourselves. And that's why this book delete that. It's not just delete that. It's not you have to do the research. You have to treat at the take time and find out why do I behave the way I do. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money making conversations, masterclass. Welcome back to money making conversation, masterclass hosted by me, Roshan McDonnell. Money making conversation, masterclass continues online at moneymakingconversations.com. And follow money making conversation, masterclass on Facebook, X, and Instagram. Because really delete that, we're talking about you, but also the people you're hanging

with. Sometimes your coworkers, where you live. But let's start with you first before we start pointing out other people as the prop. That toxic mind loop that you can get into. Tell us about that that talk that you discussed in your book, delete that. I'm talking with Sandra Daley, that's D-A-L-E-Y, daily, you know, miscomensants. That's the queen of common sense on my show money making conversation, masterclass. Let's talk about that toxic loop. You're so wise. You know what they say, a bird of feather, block together, and they're protruded about and say, how can two walk and let me agree? It starts with you. You there's an agreement first with you and it's what is in your mind. How you think about yourself, how you think about the world, how you show up every day. But that is just the symptom of what's really underneath. What we really need to do to get rid of this toxic mind loop is to examine our thoughts.

And I have something that I do. I call it the thought tracker. It is a quick little story. I was in my graduate program and I had this one professor and he was just picking on me. And I didn't know why. I did everything to ignore this man. I did that sit in the back and I like a person. I like to sit in the front page and I go in the back and I don't know where he called and I'm in front of him. He's one day I was sitting in the back and I was about a sick of this man. And I said to my say, he's such an idiot. And I heard it in my spirit. What made you an idiot assessor? And I tried to stop. I mean, what's up? I was no longer in the classroom. I had to look at Sandra. What it is that this man is doing that is landing on you, that is upset in you the way it is. That is causing you. And that started to think that man never disturbed. And I don't care when he could jump up and down in a clown's loop.

He never disturbed my spirit after that day because I removed the toxic mind loop of how I see things, how I see myself. It didn't matter if he was picking on me. I'm not going to put myself in a place to be affected by what he said. I have an education I need to get to. He's just a great keeper. After this semester, I won't see him no more. But it starts with me. Right. I'm going to follow that up because a lot of people will tell you, they'll stop you from pursuing your dreams because they have their level of doubt. And it's important, as you speak, that people understand your value, your values tremendous. And that's why you're on this show because you're motivating people understand that success starts and ends with you. If you don't start the car, the car won't drive. And so it means you have to put the key in, okay? Make sure you got gas in it. Since a lot of elements to driving that car, you've got to make sure you have wheels on it, you've got to make sure all that stuff you want.

And so, life is like that. Life is more than just waking up. You know, you got to prepare for the day. If you walk out the door, shocked, you know, where to write clothes, and that can start your whole day wrong. You know, so I love that toxic mind loop is stopping a lot of people right now from going to work happy. You know, going home, sitting there, car in the driveway, don't want to go in, don't want to deal with the kids, don't want to deal with their mates. Oh, don't want to go to church because they have issues right there with religion or issues with the people sitting next to them in church. And that toxic, I really want to stay on that a little bit because so many people, I just try to get people to the next step, Sandra. And there are small business owners out there. And entrepreneurs, that people who contact me all the time, but I can't help them. I can't mentor them because they're blocking themselves. Do you have any steps in your book? Do you have certain areas that you can go, look, if you get the book, you go here.

Yes, every chapter, and every sub chapter, when I did a cost, what is happening, it may not be your chapter, maybe two. Or maybe something that happened in the womb. Every chapter, I have activities and prayers and affirmation and that you can do to first identify where you are. See, when you read the book, you're going to go, that's me. Give your short little story. There's an exception in the book that call, since the angry all, since the mad all the time. Yeah. Sister mad all the time. Hey, man, can I get a man? I know that sister. I don't know. Okay. I don't know me. You got me laughing now. That in the next chapter should be angry brother. Fitz would you say Miss daily? Yes. So I don't call any names.

I just call our characters. And someone bought the book. She said she was led to go to the table of contents, whether she did it or since the mad all the time. And she said when she read it, she realized it was her and she would ask her, why am I not the time? My joy and my happiness is for short live. And she had activities. First, when you read the book, you identify yourself. You identify where you are. But I don't leave you there. I have activities of wisdom. Understand why you're the way or why you think the way you are. Why your presence and your past are intertwining and you can't seem to get over their prayers, their practical ways of overcoming things. So when you delete things, you don't repeat things. Talk about the rewiring process because there's too many people out there preventing themselves from reaching their dreams or their goals. Just a mindset and it doesn't come easy or cheap.

You see what people don't realize on all of us. We don't come here alone. We're not here by ourselves and all of our thoughts don't belong to us. And so, but they sound like us. How many people got talked to and they don't even know what they say or something told me or the devil said something to them, a spirit and they don't even know the difference between their voice. We don't come here alone. So first, you must first identify that. It's a mindset. The same way it takes you to worry. You can then meditate and change your ways, but people lack understanding. So in the book, one of the things that I love both about chapter about rewiring your future, talks about the little steps you take everyday. Just little things, watching the way you speak, the minute you say something and it's shit. Now, I'm sure this, I know this has happened to you, even though you have a lifestyle

and a mindset of positivity. I know it took time, but I knew that there was a time in life when something negative happened. You got a early one, one at a time, a clock, something shit. You got bad news or something happened and tired. You have to switch yourself to say, hey, even though this happened to me, this is not my life. Hard tripling, calm my body. Most people get stuck there because the thoughts that don't belong to them, they accept it and run with it. And the minute you run with that thought, it now govern your behavior, it governs what you say, it govern what you speak and what you write and those things reinforce that mindset. So what you got to do? You're going to have to start thinking about stop being lazy, emotionally lazy. You know, I respect everything you've said because what happens is we don't wake up.

I don't know when I walk out the door with the traffic is going to be like, I don't know when I turn on the light, where that light's going to come on. Some nights, days I have turn to light, light didn't come on. Some day I have, we're going to have freeway and guess what? Traffic was ugly. I didn't get into road rage. I didn't arrive to work mad at the person because I just had a bad experience. I guess I learned how to reset myself. And I think that's an important word that people need to hold on to. Resetting your days, resetting your life, resetting your relationship. And what I also don't do, I'm a goal setter. I set goals. And so even though I drive from home to my office, I have goals. My goal is to get there. Now if my goal is halted by traffic or flat tire or the car doesn't start, I got to call a trippy lady, that means I have to reset it. And I think that's another one problem that people have on the regular bed, whether it's

politics, whether it's relationships, whether it's your children's parenting. All these things are impacting people on a daily basis. And when I came across your book, delete that, and I didn't know the personality was tied to this book. See, the interview and the book is like platinum right now. It's platinum. Thank you. You need to have an audio version of this book because your energy and your passion is double even though the book informs me and allows me to understand my mistakes. Because we all make mistakes, correct? Yes. Yes. I'm living it. The number one thing that I see that happens all of us, every human being is fear. Whenever you get angry, Richard, think about this. Whenever we get angry, there are two ways to go. You can go up or you can go down. Most of us when we're angry and we go down, the first place we shit is fear.

Fearful of something and fear cripple people. That's why we don't stop long enough to say, wait, something just shift. Something just shift in my day. What is it I'm afraid of? What am I? And I'm going to tell you this. I live it. I know it. I haven't found a study yet, but I know it. 99.9 of the things we fear don't even happen. But we spend so much time on it that we cripple thoughts. That's where most people live. Even when you set goals, you're educated, you know the scriptures. There's something still deep down inside of us just driving us and it's fear. Now imagine fear is here. We all get fearful. Even when angels short to people in the Bible, they say fear not because they're human. When you go up from fear, the first thing he is loved. Angels are all they scared. Fear not that. I'm just angel. I'm just angel. I'm just a child.

Fear is a beauty. I love her. She's the one and only. She's the queen of common sense. She's aka Sandra Daley, her book, the lead fat is a must read for everybody. Thank you for coming on Monday. May the conference take some hours to class, my friend. Thank you so much for having me and God bless you, sir. Keep up the good work. Thank you for listening to this episode. Now I need for you to do me a favor. Right now, you'll follow or subscribe to money making conversation. It's free. And you can find it on the I heart radio app, Spotify, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Please do me that favor. Follow or subscribe, money making conversations. Keep winning. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering the ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without

asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the US Open, which means the tennis world is about to lose its mind and I'm here for every second of it. Join me, Renee Stubbs on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast as I break it all down. The matches that matter, the drama that doesn't and the stories everyone's talking about. No cliches, no sugar coating, just host analysts from someone who's actually been there. Coco, looking real good, her surf looks so much smoother than it has in the past. I was really happy to see Iga back to what she looked like a couple of years ago when she was winning dominantly. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Michael and Perioli. I want to tell you about my new podcast Underground Zero. We're looking at the opportunity of a lifetime for us and the other families.

It's about the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks. What's in the tunnels? Go bars, silver ingots. It'll be worth half a billion. Starring Steve Sharibba, Rayabrutso, and me, Michael and Perioli. How far you prepared to go? Depends how far you are. Listen to Underground Zero on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome aboard season six of The Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. A beautiful woman smiles and hands you a scotch. But you have no idea just how messed up her job actually is. It was the most sexist job I think you could have. Until one day, a group of stewardesses spark a revolution that reshapes America. Listen to The Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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