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What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles.
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When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and his criminal empire, there is no doubt that it stretched
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around the globe and some of those locations are a lot more well known than others.
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And one of the areas where Jeffrey Epstein and his buddy Jean-Luc Brunel were most active
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is down in Central and South America.
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And now we have girls coming out from Brazil and other areas talking about what they went
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When they were recruited by Jeffrey Epstein and his criminal empire, and when it comes
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to South America and Central America, I think there's a whole last story that still
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hasn't been uncovered.
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And I think a lot of the women from this area are going to start coming forward and talking
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about what happened.
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And in this article in fact, we're going to hear from an Epstein survivor, a woman named
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Amanda Ungaro, who says that she saw miners sitting on Jeffrey Epstein's lap and alleges
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that a modeling agent tried to place drugs in her bag on a 2002 flight from Paris to New
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This article was published by O. Globo and the headline, Brazilian X model describes Epstein
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There were about 30 girls, beautiful and very young.
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This article was authored by Natasha Robero.
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Natasha Ungaro was 17 when she boarded Jeffrey Epstein's private jet known as Lolita Express
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on a flight from Paris to New York in June of 2002.
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At the time, the financiers' crimes were not yet public, and the first accusations would
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emerge in 2005, incorrect.
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Remember the first accusations came from Maria Farmer in 1996.
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Now those accusations were not public at the time, so that much is true.
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But we have to make sure that we keep the record straight.
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There is so much going on here, there's so much to keep in line, so much to keep in order.
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That we have to make sure that even the little facts are lined up, right?
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We'll leave the bullshitting and the nonsense.
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To people like Candice Owens and Ian Carroll in an interview with O. Globo, the former
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model described scenes aboard the aircraft that she said reflected the vulnerability of
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very young girls, many of them between 14 and 16.
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And remember the deposition that we went through from Mrs. Vazquez, where she was talking
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about all these girls from Central and South America that were being brought through
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MC squared and then being abused in places like New York.
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This all leads right back to that, right?
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And it corroborates what she was saying.
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There were about 30 girls on the plane.
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I found it very strange.
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On Garo had said, they looked more like students than models, beautiful and very young.
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But not with the model profile, well that's because they weren't models.
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What Bruno would do is he'd go through the countryside and places like Brazil, little
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villages, whatever, and then offer these girls and their parents a whole bunch of money.
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Hey, let your daughter come to America, become a model, and you guys are going to be rich.
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But the reality is a lot of these girls will come to America and they never got any modeling
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Instead, they were abused, they were kept hostage basically, and they were left at
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the mercy of Jeffrey Epstein and Jean-Luc Bruno.
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And I think evidence like this just goes directly to that point and I think considering all
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the circumstantial evidence that we have, it's rather obvious what was going on when
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it comes to Epstein and South America.
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On Garo, now 41, spoke to O. Globo after returning to Brazil following her deportation from
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the United States, where she had lived from 2002 to 2025.
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Originally from Laundrina in southern Brazil, she accused the father of her son, Italian
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businessman, Paulo Zampoli, of using his influence in Washington to trigger her arrest
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by U.S. immigration authorities amid an ongoing custody dispute over their 15-year-old
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Well, isn't that name familiar?
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Isn't that the man that people have said, hooked up Melania and Donald Trump?
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Funny that his name's involved here too, huh?
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I know, though, I know, just another coincidence, right?
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Zampoli, who was in a nearly two-decade relationship with Angaro, currently serves as special
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envoy for global partnerships in the Trump administration and is a long-time associate
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of Donald Trump, and his name appears dozens of times in documents related to the Epstein
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case released by the U.S. Department of Justice.
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He founded the modeling agency ID Models, which Epstein frequently visited in New York and
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the two attempted to acquire elite model management in 2004.
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Imagine having all these Epstein and Jason people in your administration if you were the
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president of the United States.
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That sounds like something out of like a movie, right, or a book.
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But unfortunately, that shit's reality.
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And when Thomas Massey talks about this being the Epstein administration, that's what he
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There's so many people that were adjacent to Epstein, so many people that were in business
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with Epstein that are now part of this administration, that it's apt.
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And it's certainly a fitting title.
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Angaro boarded Epstein's plane accompanied by her then-agent French modeling scout Jean-Luc
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She had recently changed representation in France, leaving Ford models, designed with
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Karen models in Paris.
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Brunel, she said, invited her onto the jet, telling her they would be traveling at the
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invitation of a friend and his wife.
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In New York, the final destination, Angaro was scheduled to attend her first casting in
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I was scared when I saw all those girls I thought were am I, she recalled.
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Her discomfort did not go unnoticed.
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Brunel, who, according to Justice Department Files, acted as a recruiter for Epstein,
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sought to reassure and letter to the owner of the plane.
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Let me introduce you to Jeffrey Epstein, he said, talk about being led to the belly of
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Instead of dumb and dumber, Brunel and Epstein were scummy and scummy-er.
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I mean, these two dudes together were an absolute nightmare, and the fact that Brunel
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was allowed to get away with that bullshit for as long as he did is unbelievable to me.
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So many people came out and talked about Jean-Luc Brunel and the kind of piece of shitty
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he was for years, and nobody did shit about it.
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In fact, over there in France, they just ignored it all, but there were plenty of people
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who had a lot to say about what Jean-Luc Brunel was up to.
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Epstein approached Angaro, asked her her age, and where she was from.
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Soon after, Glein Maxwell, his longtime associate, you mean co-conspirator, right?
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Fellow child abuser and bipedal serpent, Maxwell joined the interaction.
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When told Angaro was Brazilian, Maxwell reacted enthusiastically.
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Oh, how nice that you're from Brazil.
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I bet Maxwell acted like that.
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We all know that Maxwell has never met a vulnerable girl or woman
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that she didn't want to abuse.
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Angaro said that she kept to herself throughout the flight
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and did not interact with other passengers.
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Still, she noticed that many of the girls appeared familiar with Epstein.
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Unfortunately, that was the whole point.
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And they're not even talking about it yet, but it's going to come out eventually
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that these girls were being sent Epstein's house to live with them.
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We're talking about 14, 15, 16 year old girls at the townhouse on a rotating basis,
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being brought in through the pipeline that was set up by Jean-Luc Bernel.
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And these girls were being brought to Epstein's mansion,
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the townhouse for him to do with as he pleases.
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And all of that stuff is going to come out eventually.
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And I think with the drip we're seeing here, it won't be long.
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Some of them sat on his lap, stayed close, playing around, she said,
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adding that Maxwell also seemed at ease.
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It felt like they already knew each other.
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It didn't seem like a group of strangers meeting for the first time.
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Those people hadn't just met, like I had.
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At one point, she said that Epstein and Maxwell went to the back of the plain,
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accompanied by some of the girls.
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She didn't see them again, for the remainder of the flight.
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Well, I wonder why.
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I wonder why she didn't see them.
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What do you think they were doing back there?
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Talking about cabbage-patched kids?
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Maybe talking about the latest Pokemon cards?
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We know those sick degenerate bastards were doing back there.
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The unease persisted.
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On Garo said that she asked Brunel who the girls were and who the man
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who had introduced himself as the jet owner was.
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He said that it was just a friend and that the girls were models.
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She said, I was 17 and shy.
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If it were today, I would question everything.
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But at the time, I didn't.
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I didn't even know who Jeffrey Epstein was.
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And you know what, we can't expect a 17-year-old girl from Brazil to know the deal, right?
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All these other adults out around the pilots,
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Epstein's assistants, Epstein's friends, they all know better.
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So they should have stepped up.
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When the plane landed in the United States,
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on Garo and Brunel were among the first to get off.
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But before that, she said she experienced another disturbing episode.
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Seated across from her on a sofa, separated by a small table,
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Brunel tossed what appeared to be a small object order,
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a package wrapped and transparent plastic.
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Put this in your bag, he told her.
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On Garo said she asked what it was, Brunel insisted.
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When she refused again, he threw the package toward her once more.
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His persistence, she said, made her suspect what it was.
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I realized right away that it was probably drug, she said, and I said no way, not in my bag.
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And that is pretty interesting considering the DEA investigation that we know has been shelved,
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so was Brunel and his associates bringing drugs in as well, very possible, very, very possible.
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All I wanted was to get off that plane.
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On Garo said, I didn't feel comfortable, I knew something was wrong.
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I just didn't know what, at the time, it never crossed my mind that it could have involved abuse.
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For years, Jeffrey Epstein was seen as a well-connected finance here,
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who catered to billionaire clients and moved among politicians and celebrities.
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That image began to unravel in 2006, when he was accused of sexually abusing miners in
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Palm Beach, Florida. Despite multiple allegations, he was initially charged with a lesser
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offense of soliciting prostitution, a decision that drew criticism and led the FBI to open the
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federal investigation. At that time, of on Garo's flight in 2002, however,
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none of those allegations had yet surfaced. So look, it's just another story to add to the pile.
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And when you add all this evidence up and you look at it closely, there is zero doubt
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that Jeffrey Epstein and his network were super active down in South and Central America.
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And considering all that, the only question left is just how far did the abuse go?
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