
About this episode
Chad is back, this time in Mallorca, with Rebecca Carr who just dropped a Molotov cocktail on traditional recruiting.
This isn’t “optimize your ATS” talk—this is burn it down and rebuild with AI agents running the show. SmartRecruiters went from “just another platform” to SAP’s shiny new weapon, and Rebecca’s here to explain how betting big on AI turned a commodity into a category killer.
We dig into:
Why ATS platforms are living on borrowed time
How AI agents will replace interfaces with conversations
The real reason candidates don’t trust hiring tech (hint: black box BS)
Why most companies are stuck in Frankenstein tech stacks they’re too scared to leave
And how SAP is using SmartRecruiters as a test lab for the future of work
Rebecca also pulls back the curtain on leadership—making hard calls, killing distractions, and why playing it safe is the fastest way to get left behind.
Bottom line: if your hiring strategy still looks like 2015… you’re already screwed.
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