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bad questions later on in the show, but on the heels of Anton Frandell's NHL debut, we thought
it would be a perfect day to welcome our favorite NHL analyst, Steve Peters. Hi, buddy. How are you?
I'm doing really well. Coming off a big Chicago Blackhawk win last night with one of the youngest
teams ever assembled and things are good. Yes. Before we dive into the video, we dive into the
breakdown. I know you watch the I think you watch the entire game to prepare for this segment.
And you know, you know, you keep an eye on the Hawks from a distance. When you saw what you saw
last night, what were your takeaways generally about the Blackhawks and their growth since we started
chatting together? You know, it's funny because I saw a headline and I apologize because I don't
know where it came from. So somebody did some reporting and I don't remember. But it said,
is Blackhawks giving up clearly they have in Chicago when I was really disappointed in that.
And I'm not quite sure what the message was trying to be sent there. This is a team that
finished last year or 61 points. They're on projected right now at 77 points, which is a 15 point
increase with just minor tinkering to their roster. It's absolutely amazing. You're talking about
where this team is in the rebuild. They're the second youngest team in hockey right now just behind.
You know, who were they behind? See, I did all this research. Second youngest team.
Hand Montreal. No, Montreal, just slightly behind. Youngest team in the West. Utah is 14th
young as Seattle's 19th and I'm 20th, San Jose 21st. These are teams that are two and three years
ahead of where Chicago is it? Everybody this year, I'll say that Jay, everybody's been saying,
oh, look at San Jose. They're making a push for the playoffs. Look at what Celebrini's doing. Look
at their three points ahead of Chicago. But Dard missed 13 games. Do you think they would be three
points better if they didn't miss those 13 games? Celebrini missed none.
You take the best player away from San Jose for 13 games. Guess what they are. So Chicago's
taking leaps and bounds and the roster you look at, if I'm a Chicago fan and I look through this
roster last night, last night's roster 13 players under 24 years old. Like this future right now
is phenomenally bright for Chicago. Well, the thing about San Jose is that people don't take
into account that the Pacific sucks. Yeah. We're also true. This was published last night.
NHL goal differential this season by division. Atlantic division is plus 88. The central's plus 31.
The Metro's plus three. The Pacific is minus 122 as a division in goal differential. It's trash.
The Pacific sucks. Counter McDabby the other day called it a pillow fight. And did we forget
that the Hawks beat the living hell out of the sharks like three weeks ago?
Do we just forget that that happened? What gets me PD is it's all narrative-based, right? You
come into the season. You're like, oh, man, the vibes are high in San Jose and Mechman Celebrini is
awesome. And don't get me wrong. Mechman Celebrini is awesome. He is a studies way ahead of schedule.
He could seriously win the heart trophy this year if they make the playoffs. That's great.
But to say that the sharks are here and the Hawks are here is just not accurate.
It's you're just not paying attention. No, and I think that's what you you have to take away
as a Chicago fan. And I know this is hard because I spent so much time in Arizona on teams that
struggled near the bottom of the standings. This season honestly couldn't have worked out
much better because you're still looking at getting a very high traffic, but you also made strides.
It wasn't like everybody in that locker room is going, oh gosh, I can't wait for the season to be
over. They're not because they're still getting guys opportunities to play. They're getting guys
opportunities to get minutes to get better. This team is so far from where they were a season to go.
I know they're not playing competitive playoff games right now. I know they're not, but they're
still getting another draft pick to add to this young very, very talented roster that can be fixed
with a few more, a few more veteran players. I don't think they're there yet, though. I don't think
they're ready to spend that money. Night's been absolutely lights out and bedard. A guy that I was
tougher on and I know I had to come on the show and apologize about the Celebrini. He's different
than Celebrini. He's a different player and you look at what he's done this season in his third
season there. Good thing happened when he is on the ice. You and I talked about the power play
before this, but the power place is getting into the zone better because of one player. I mean,
it's kind of a dark. The power play puck movement. It's kind of a dark offensive things are happening
because of kind of a dark like he is the offensive driver for this team and to see the steps he's
taking this season, not just not just offensively in his numbers are better than they were a season
ago, but I think he's becoming the leader and you see a guy that that's really put the work
with Don plays at both ends of the ice and it's trying to drag his team into the fight. I think
there's so many positive signs right now for Chicago aside from the standings and you have to
look past that you've got to look what's the future like. Well, you mentioned the idea that like,
you know, you don't want guys checking out just because they're not playing important games, but
they're playing teams that are in playoff races and they're playing teams that are going out
there knowing they need those two points against a team that on paper. Those teams should be like
Islanders needed those two points last night. They didn't get it. The game tomorrow is against
the flyers. Flyers are not out of the playoffs and in the east. They're still in that chase. So
each game for the Hawks opponent seems like it's always coming down to like either a team that's
trying to improve their positioning in the playoffs or fight for their lives and for the most part
aside from the Colorado game recently. The Hawks have like raised their game to meet those
those teams playing in those in those levels and to do it, especially post trade deadline with how
many young players they have like that's what those young guys are are that's the those atmospheres
where they can learn a lot of those lessons of like what it takes to win high level games like that
and I think last night with Fran Dell. He wasn't perfect, but there were still moments where it's just
against the team that's pushing, especially in that third period. Like this is as Blaschle said,
like it's kind of like that learn by throwing them into the fire and kind of see where where he's at.
Yeah, and I think you're going to see more of that on the stretch. You talked about that. I've
got a game with Evanton. You got Philly and Alphia tomorrow. Teams that these placement
in the playoffs are very important in these last 10 games. You're going to find out. Hey,
and for these young guys, you're going to find out it ramps up like the physicality ramps up.
The pace ramps up. This is a different game. And I think when this many young players in the lineup,
playing teams that are fighting for their playoff lives like Philly tomorrow and the islanders
last night, you're finding out what this really takes, what this really means. Like this is a step
faster and Fran Dell is playing in a faster league, but more intensely get all of these guys are
getting their first taste of, man, this is this is fast and this is what we need to do if we're going
to finally make the playoffs after our long drought. But but I think when you looked at last year,
by this time of the year, it's like, we're out of this. Like we're we've got players in this roster,
they're just trying to get through. We're not trying to compete for roster spots. It was just
get through the season. Now you've got young guys that are that are fighting their way and they're
having fun. And I think that's very evident too. When you get all these young guys together,
coming into the lead together, going up together, maturing together in the national hockey league,
I think you're seeing them having fun. That is going to be so important when they're through the
rebuild that you have a tight group that is trying to win together. I get excited when I look
at what's going on with Chicago Blackhacks and I know it's hard to see it. But you look at what's
at the back end, you look at the goal tender that's 24 years old, they can clearly lead this team.
The back six, man, they're they're so young on the back end and they're talented. They're fast.
They can defend. They've got some size. All of the tools you need are there and it is different
than a lot of these teams. We talked about Philly and I'm sorry to keep around. But the fiddle
of here flyers are a team right now that that there's still trying to fight for a playoffs, but
their five points out they think they're around it. But what are they? When you look at the roster,
they've got no depth on the middle of the ice. They've got nowhere to go. They've got a few guys
coming up, but they're on that purgatory in your Rangers. Do they're not a rebuild? I don't know
what the Rangers are. At least when you look at the Blackhacks, you go, I get it. You're young,
you're skilled. You're talented up the middle of the ice. You got good defenders and you got a
good goalie. I think you can see the future is finally there and that's what's so hard to do
through these rebills is see where the future ends. This is so close, so close to playing meaningful
games this time of year that I think fans can finally taste it. I think that's what we've kind of
as as difficult as it's been with the rebuild is like you commend Kyle Davidson for at least saying
I have this plan and we're going with this plans rather than flip flopping or just kind of going
by the seat of your pants. Like he's come in with it and it's just like we're going to go this route
and this is the route that's going to get us there and he's committed to it. Yeah.
And I think that's evident because I've been involved and we've said this before in the Arizona
priorities with with John Chica's our general manager on a team that was not quite ready to win,
not quite ready and done through their rebuild, but they give up first round picks for Taylor Hall.
Give up first round picks for Derek Stepon. Nice players, really, really good players. They just
weren't ready to be on a team that wasn't quite ready to make the playoffs and you wasted
future draft picks for immediate success that just didn't happen. Is that flash in the pen? Yes,
they went to the 2020 bubble playoffs, but when Taylor Hall left to the end of season, it's over
and you lost the draft picks. Chicago's not doing that. They're sticking with it. This is the plan.
This is what we're trying to. Yes, you have players like Ryan Denado. I think you need. I think you
need that veteran presence and I think they need more. I think they do need some pedigree in that
locker room next summer. I really think it's important. Maybe not a player that's on a top six
role for Chicago because I think they've got guys that need that ice time. I think you need a guy
that's been there, like at least in the conference finals somewhere or maybe want to cup somebody that's
been through the locker room that knows what the war is about so that they can pull these guys into
it. And I think that's the next piece that that Chicago Blackhawk team needs. Well, you've got.
So you've got Bertuzzi for two more after this. You've got table for one. You've got Denado for
three after this one. Maybe you bring back Mac Grizzlyk for a low deal to be your seventh
defenseman, but he seems pretty comfortable going with the young guys they got now. And at some
point, Kevin Corchinsky is going to need a chance. I've sort of been in the mind that you if you can
go find a 23 to 26 year old established stud like a Robertson, like a nice like Robert Thomas or
someone else who maybe we're not even thinking of. I think that makes more sense and just going to
find another guy to plug into your bottom six somewhere for because I don't know. I feel like
we were all concerned when they traded the whole leadership group full, you know, Dickinson Murphy
within two days of each other. Like, what are they going to do? And they've responded really well.
And I think these young guys have sort of jumped at the opportunity to say, this is ours. This is us
now. It's our time. We are going to take this over. Kind of but ours got an Anna sweater.
Bertuzzi's got the other one. There's a bunch of guys that you could probably see as captains or
alternate captains next year like Alex Flasick, maybe in Frank Nasar, who knows.
Um, I don't know. I don't know if I'm ready to add more old guys for the sake of it because I
really like the way that the young guys have to be clear a very small sample size with no stakes.
Are they out of the playoff race mathematically? No, but we all know it's not going to happen.
So I don't know that that's kind of where I'm at at this point. Yeah, if you can get a player like
Robert Thomas that that's got a contract going for four more years, like either you can keep
beyond a single season. And I mean, even if you have a guy that's got this plus one, I don't
think that's good enough. I don't think Davidson can give up assets for a rental. And I don't
mean a yearly rental, but I mean, even a guy with under two years, Robert Thomas to me, okay,
you got four years left on your deal. It's a little over eight million. I know the money works.
I'm okay with that. I think that's totally fine because I think that fits inside the window
of when I think this team is going to be making their run to the playoffs. I do. But you have to watch
out for giving up any assets that can be part of that big rebuild when you're finally ready to,
hey, we're ready to win the cup again. Not just make the playoffs, not just finished in eighth,
ninth or tenth, but we're ready to finish in one, two, three, four. And that's the hard part for
Kyle Davidson is now is weighing that what are the assets I'm going to have to give up to get a
rejection Robertson, Robert Thomas, because it's going to be a haul. Like you're going to have to
give something really good up to get those. And I know there's a lot of young assets there. And I
know Kevin Kurchinsky is a namely product. There's only so many young defensemen that can play.
So maybe there are some opportunities to get rid of some of those assets. But that's the fear I have.
Is that short term? Hey, we can make the playoffs next year if we have a Robert Thomas. Yeah,
dude, you're not ready yet, though. You're still not ready to compete with Colorado. You're not.
And the teams that are really vying for a cup this year and next year. So let's just wait. Hold
those assets and see if they can mature to be the next Robert Thomas, the next, the next,
you know, Robertson. That's where I get concerned about it out of team trying to make it just a
little bit too quick. I agree that you want to be able to make sure that if you're giving things
up like that, like those high priced assets, it's for stuff that or it's for someone that is
in the longer term. But let's say in the in the case of Robert Thomas, like as we're talking about
these guys playing important games, like a player that can give you those, give you that edge to
a couple of these games that we've seen go to overtime or shootouts, you know, games that they lose
late in the third period, stuff like that. Wouldn't having a guy over, let's say, the course of
what four years is as he's got left, being someone that could put them over the hump to win some
of those games and put them in those moments where their winning games is also valuable rather than
seeing necessarily having to wait those extra two years to say, well, then this guy is now
completely part of the window of contention. Yeah, I get that too, but you also have to look at
fits and Robert Thomas up the middle of the ice. What is the future of the Chicago Black House
up the middle of the ice? Is it Frontel? Is it Bidard Naysar? Like that's where I think you're
looking at your top three centers. If that's your top three centers two years from now. Yeah,
I think that's what is Robert Thomas somebody slide over the wing maybe, maybe, but I think what
Chicago's with their counting on is all these young players up the middle of the ice is going to
make them a powerhouse because I said that I have hardies that you need middle of the ice.
You want to win a cup, you better be good down the middle of the ice, not good, you better be great
and you better have an elite player which they have, but you better have a guy that can can play
both ends of the ice with some pace. They've got that in Naysar and I don't know what Frontel's
going to be yet. Maybe I know they got a slide that it in the wing, but I tell you what, they
sure like to have those three guys one, two, three rolling out every single line up the middle of
the ice. And maybe that's why I don't know if Thomas might not be the right fit right now.
Maybe yes. I like Robert Thomas, but keeping Ryan Robert Thomas has been playing on a St. Louis
team that's not going to make the playoffs this year and they barely made it last year, so he's
been there. So be careful. I just I think he could help this team, but I just don't know if that's
the right move right now. All right, we are a little blade for the break zone. We'll continue this
conversation on the other side of the break. We're also going to get to PD's detailed breakdown
of Frontel's debut. Stick around. Hit that like button. We'll talk you in a few minutes on CHGO Black
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prohibited. All right, we're back on CHGO black hocks with Steve Peters, a one final thought on
adding to this roster or not. In your opinion, Ben NHL coaching says before, what is the value of a
young team just getting some playoff exposure? You know, getting into the playoffs,
knowing they're not going to win a Stanley Cup, but just experiencing that. How far can that go
into teams overall development? I think it's incredibly important. We talked about playing important
games late in the season. I think that's that's step number one is you have to play games that are
meaningful. So you get that playoff and you're seeing it now across this league every single night
teams ramping it up playing playoff style hockey, but the playoffs are different. It's different for
everybody. And I'm talking from the the first line senator to the equipment manager. Like it's
it's a different animal. The way you prepare is different. The way you grind it out for two,
three, four days playing the same team. It's so much different. I think it's incredibly important.
Your stays in the hotel are different. How you prepare for your games are different. You need to see
because it is different. It's you'll see the first round of the NHL playoffs to me are the best
playoffs in all of sport. I think you see the scratching claw and fighting physicality that really
picks up. So I think it is important. And I think teams need to go through that. And we've seen
that, you know, with teams that have won the Stanley Cup, they get in, they get beat up a little
bit, and then they're out. But look out because they're coming back strong. And I think this is a
team that that will be fighting for a playoffs spot next season. I know people when we put that
out, people are crazy. Chicago. Yeah, I really believe that. I think next year when we're talking in
March next year, this is a team is playing important games. They're not this season. And we didn't
think they would be, but I think next year they are going to be this year's San Jose and a
Heim and they're going to be that team. They go, gosh, there are flashes. This is getting close.
I think it's important. And I think it's a step in winning and getting all the way and finally
getting to the Stanley Cup finals again for Chicago fans. It's just crazy to things. They're
10 points from the last wildcard spot, which is far. We can be wrong. But they had lost
Padarda, Nazar for a month at the same time. And are there three or four more wins in there
with those guys? Probably. I mean, and then you're right there. You got 13 overtime and shootout
losses. If half of those go the other way, that's you add six points. You're at 73. You're one
point back of the Kings, what I think are three points back of the world. What I think this can
lead us nicely into the front L thing too, because now you've got a guy who can play with Bedard,
who is not on his level, but close to it. Where you're not close on the power of way passing
to Ryan Denato or Nick Felino or whoever it's Anton Frontel. And next year is Roman Cancer
of who lead led the K H L in goals this year. Or it's maybe you get Kevin McKenna or I've
R. Stenberg and you plug them in right away. And now you've got just talent rising up where
for three quarters of the season, you're like, all right, he's on the power play because who
else is really going to do it? Now you've got genuine power play weapons aside from counter Bedard.
And those one goal losses become wins or overtime losses, right? So it's just those little
additions that can make such a massive difference. And I really do feel like, and Kyle Davidson said
this too. Boy, like if we had not lost Bedard in Frank for a month, you wonder what we'd be right
now. I think that's what they overlapped too. Yeah. I do too. And that's what we're talking about
the improvement. And I think that's why this is so important. This team, when you lose to your
best player for a month, I don't care for them. And if you lose me, David for a month, it's a
problem. And for Chicago, even more so because they rely so heavily on counterbirds. Yeah, I do
think they scratch out four more points, five, six more points, which puts them in the same
conversation as we were saying with the thrill of your flyers and the San Jose Sharks teams that
are fighting for that spot. This has been a positive year. And I think what would really be
something a good exercise to do is go back a year, go back to CHG a year, a year ago right now
when you're in the last 10 games of the season and see what your shows are about. You know,
are you guys drafting your favorite candy bar by now? I don't know. Like it's you were done. You
were out of it. You were grumpy and you were angry when you showed up. Now you go, gosh,
look at this. We're exciting. We're fun. We're competing. We have an opportunities on the
power play. And we look like we might be actually able to compete for a playoff spot. So
year makes a little bit of difference. We don't next year. And it's just another step forward
with night carrying the load again, the defense with more experience. And that's where I think
you need the most experiences on the back end, because I think that's the hardest where you have
to get the reads and the rush reads right. So I think that's where you're really going to see this
take a step forward again next year. All right. Should we get to let's do it the frondel without any
further ado? Let's bring on PD's breakdown of frondel. Anything you want to set up here before
we hit play? I do really quick, because I think this is important. And I know you I'm running
along and you guys are getting grumpy, but but the truth is a kid's 18 and it's game one. He's
playing center ice somewhere else. He's playing in a different league on a different part of the
planet, pump the brakes on everything that he did last night. When when you would put a new
player into the lineup and I'll specifically bring up Clayton Keller when Clayton Keller came
in the lineup right for playing college at BU. He was an incredibly small physically. And he just
he went in that first game. We played St. Louis Blues and St. Louis physical strong Reeves was still
there. And I'm not kidding. Keller did nothing. Literally nothing. I don't even know if he had a shot
on goal. It was that lackluster. And we sat as a coaching group watching his shifts over and we go,
oh my gosh, look how good he dumped the puck in from the red line. We're just finding anything to
grab on to for this young player. And I'm like, dude, the kid shouldn't he looks like he's in a high
school. And that's all I'm trying to say is Clayton Keller now has the franchise records in two
different franchises for points by a player in a season. And that first game I'm not
if he's not in special. It was literally didn't know it was on the ice. So anything above that is
a huge step forward. So keep all of those things in mind when you're watching a player like
front out, he is 18 years old. So let's go to the video. All right. I heard up Steven.
Yeah, I hope this works. We're going to see. So it's going to start off. He this is in transition
is he's going up there. It's in a good defensive position. They create a turnover. He's quick on
pucks. And instead of dumping the puck in or giving the puck to bedard, he uses his eyes. He sees
the vision pulls the puck back. There's a really good play with two experienced Islander defenders
that gets him his first assists in the national hockey again from the defensive zone.
Quick on transaction gets up the play has to move his body completely around to pull this puck
in. Then he dumps the puck in. And he's first on the puck. And he's first on the forecheck.
He didn't turn the puck over at the blue line. They were able to keep the puck in offensive.
He has a great dump play. Here's a power play. Looks to the inside. But as the defender stick to the
inside opens up the lane to Bertuzzi makes a great play. They're able to find the back door to
bedard. Great play on the power play. Here he is again. Transition again.
Feet moving up the ice looks and goes, Hey, I got to slow down if I'm going to hit this open lane.
Slow down. Doesn't speed up. Slow down. Look how close that puck is to getting him another one of
his five shot attempts on the night. Here he is again off of a turnover. Goes back the other way.
Comes back hard. And I want to use back check on this. He could go to the puck, which most young
players do. He doesn't. He takes the wide lane. But he takes that player all the way to the net.
Stick on stick. Denies the play defensively. It's an outstanding play for another
eight, another great play defensively. Stick on puck is the puck comes over the blue line.
Stick on puck gets it up to bedard. Doesn't quit. Goes up on the play. And again,
all the way up on this wide line and another good shot on that. He's able to get a buy that
defender for another good shot on net. And I know these are just simple examples.
But but he he tied Conor Bredard for most shot attempts by a forward in that game last night.
So he wasn't just good. He was very good for an 18 year old. Now are there mistakes? Yeah,
there were. There were some defensive zone reads that I blame on him playing wing versus center
that I think he was just a little confused. He didn't know the system. They haven't had time to
practice minor, minor mistakes. Like they weren't throwing the puck up the middle of the ice for a
two on o break way. It didn't happen. Like to have that poise and that maturity at 18 in his first
game, thoroughly impressed and on the road and against the team fighting for a playoff spot.
So I know you guys are probably throw this on the other video that we go a lot deeper on
front L and another video we made. Yeah, I think when you when you look at that and you look at
the game that he played like, yes, it is very very important to note that he's that was literally
a morning skate, which you can't really accomplish much in a morning skate. Systematically or
anything like that. First time playing with that with that group and probably got a little bit
of a video session, a little bit of just like catch up on, you know, from Blasho and the coaches
have me like, this is how we want to play structurally things like that. But it's all happening very
fast. He admitted how fast the day and the experience was. But it just kind of seems like, especially
in a game like that for a player like that, it's like instinctual. Like how can I instinctually play
hockey that I that is going to help this group and maybe not try and do too much, but just kind of
rely on the player that I am and the skill set that I am. And I think when you see that from him and
the way that he's been profiled as a player and what we saw in Sweden, it just kind of seems like
he's a guy that's going to once he gets time to practice and gets more reps and gets more time
with the coaching staff. He's going to be a guy that fits that mold of what Jeff Blasho has been
preaching about like the winning hockey, quote unquote, that he wants this group to play. And
it's what we saw kind of a dart kind of change in his game and commit to more in year three and,
you know, Frank Nazar's taken, taken steps that way. And it just seems like Frontel's instincts
lean more towards that style of play already. Yeah. And I think the important thing you pointed
out there is his instincts and when instincts take over for a player like Frontel who can generate
offense and I know they want him to be a strong two way player, but you could see where the brain
turned off and he just played is when they were on the offensive side of the puck. And he could
find those open areas. He could make a good pass. And even that dump play where he dumps and
chases the puck. When you put them on the offensive side, it was just in sick go play. And I think
on the defensive side of the puck, he had to think because you're so used to playing center,
which is a different animal, especially in Europe when you're playing on bigger ice surfaces,
he had to think and I think it showed. I think there was a few times in the offensive zone,
where I think he made some slower decisions and maybe some of the wrong decisions. But again,
different position, not knowing the system and at the pace he was playing at. So I think the instincts
offensively really, really came through in game number one. I mean, some of those simple passes.
And there's another couple of other really simple little plays that you go, wow, that was a really
good little play. That's where instinct, instinct turns, turns, turns over. But I think what will
happen, no matter how much you spend on video with coaches and he will for the next two weeks,
just spend a lot of time on video, nothing is going to be like a game situations with that speed.
So this is a great time for him to be here to learn when it's not high stakes. Hey, we got to
make the playoffs. I think what you want for a player like Frontel is the instincts that he's
seeing offensively to be just as easy and natural without thinking on the defensive side of the
puck. And I really believe that's going to happen whether he's on the wing or in the middle of
the ice is yet to be seen. But I do think those things will just be instinctual as he gets more
time on ice. Awesome stuff. As always, PD and is a little surprise for our diehards. Today at 4 p.m.
We are going to publish at all CHGO.com a 20 minute video breakdown on I and town front L's
debut. Yes, video moving and everything. We can't do that on YouTube or any copyright violations.
But for CHGO diehards, it'll be tweeted out and blue skyed out at four o'clock. You'll be
able to access and just go to the website. It'll be there. You can watch a 20 minute breakdown
of Frontel's debut. Great stuff, man. We appreciate the hustle. We always appreciate you. I'm getting
texts from people saying PD is my favorite recurring guest. We have at CHGO. And I agree with that.
So thank you so much, man. I know it's a lot of work you do for us. And we greatly appreciate it.
Thanks. I love it here. And again, I just I want to finish off with first. I really like you guys.
And that's we we got to meet each other through the all city network. And I love the work that you
guys do and the passion that you guys bring for this Black Hawk team. And I just want you guys to
know too, man, it's real. And they're going to be there. They're the good days are ahead for
Chicago Black Hawks and their fans. Well, we love to get you on one more time before the season ends
to revisit, uh, Renzo and left. Sean, we did it late last year. Like to have you revisit it.
Maybe for the last week of the year because it's been the big talking point this year. Uh,
and let people know where to find your other stuff. Yeah, I kept finding us. Peter's hockey on Twitter
and inside the coaches room on YouTube. And there's going to be a lot of stuff coming up with the
playoffs coming on what to look for and a lot of playoff previews as this chase to the sound like
up goes on. Awesome. We appreciate it, man. Thanks so much. Thanks guys.
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Xfinity. Imagine that. Big takeaway from talking with PD about this hawks team and
Frontel and everything. The point he made about think back to this time last year and how we felt
about the team and the direction and all that stuff. Of course I call them losers. That's the
Utah game. You suck. You're uncoachable. It was bad. It was a different coach. There's a big
lot of just a lot of change from from this time last year to now and you had you know
Alec Martinez and Pat Maroon going through their swan song with with the hawks and you know we
were kind of figuring out what do they do with Donato and then it was you know Rinsel showed up
and Moore showed up at the same time and really those final 10 games really just felt like oh
like a rejuvenated kind of sense of like oh we're excited again because that's right the rebuild
the young players here they are and Sam Rinsel you know showed up with with with a big introduction
to the NHL playing 25 minutes a night and nine games and Oliver Moore put up a couple of points
and you know his speed was evident and now it just feels like again we're kind of going through
that rotation again with the arrival of Frontel and Sasha Bavaire likely making his debut tomorrow
and we're getting that like kind of rejuvenation of the energy and the excitement to have
Frontel have the performance he didn't his first game I know it's just one game there's a lot of
excitement a lot of adrenaline from the player and all that but it it feeds into the fan base and
it really does kind of put in the perspective like how many times we've gone through that like
cycle of like like this sucks this is terrible and wait all these kids are taking steps and it's
great and well it sucks and it's terrible but it's just it's all part of that like roller coaster
for the rebuild and you know Frontel's game last night was was a lot of fun to watch
and he did some good things in it the maturity is what stood out to me and PD kind of highlighted
that and he does also in the video it's going to drop in about a half hour here we're just the
the poise and the decision making and whenever you talk to a young player and you ask them like
okay you know you made your debut or you're in your first month like what's the big difference
between this and college this in junior this in Europe whatever they all say it's the speed of the
game and what they mean by that is yes the skaters are faster but also just the processing
which everything needs to happen of like oh man defenders are on me right away I don't have time
to sit here and you know math my decision I gotta move move move move move move and there are so
many times in the course of that game where he just made the right decision and PD highlighted one
where the instinct for a young player is to go chase the puck yeah but he instead located covered
the man the right winger and he went over there and tied up the second preventative golden scoring
chance for the outliers and it's a one goal win so those little plays that happened during the
course of 60 minutes might not seem like much at the time but in a one goal game they make all the
difference in the world and to see look and who you know maybe next game the adrenaline wares
off a little bit and we see a little bit of a step down wouldn't be the biggest shock in the
world but to see compared it to Clayton Keller. Clayton Keller is a really really good player
and looked lost in his first game and and look I think we could be honest to you about like
counterpart was picking up points early but there was a lot to be desired in his game his
rookie year yeah there were as many highlight moments as there were you know bad plays or
frustrated moments right and front up we'll have those two but to see him come out at 18 years old
with the poise and confidence he had it was really impressive and we were impressed by
just we played his press conference from the morning screen how just very calm level headed
asking all the questions used being asked in a thoughtful way and wasn't just trying to get it
over with just really mature beyond his years I think he's that physically I think he's that
mentally so to imagine what he's going to look like when he's 23 24 years old as an NHL player
is very exciting yeah definitely that is the big takeaway presented by Xfinity imagine that
here's a note from the NHL edge stats the NHL fantasy group and Pete Jensen
the Pete Jensen yes although in a small sample size frondelle ranks in the 99th percentile
among forwards in average shot speed 73.9 miles per hour in his debut much higher than the NHL
average at the position of 53.1 okay so there you go that's very interesting yeah I mean
we know that his shot is a is a weapon yeah so getting it off and getting it off fast
is is good to see now is he going to have every shot be 75 miles power plus probably yes
but having those open looks gets you excited for like we were kind of mentioning like what he can do
like on the power play and like how he can utilize that in the NHL and continue for it to be a
well I mentioned last night how you were seeing goalies react to his shot the way they did two
batards yeah well that was on me really really quickly kind of going back and and watching the
20 minute video we're going to publish it for from PD like you saw that a couple times where the
goal he was just oh it just happened to hit me yeah all right comes that you fast yeah
mailback time we ready yeah let's do it 20 minutes of mail back can we get through all the mail
bags in 20 minutes we cannot it usually takes us about a whole show to get through two so we will
try to go through quickly but we're bad at it so dealers choice I'm going in no particular orders this
is a good one all right secret Asian man what do you think about the fronds for a nickname well
the kids get that nickname the only fun ones on the team are turbo and pickle we got that answer
last night Chloe has no idea who the funds is yeah no clue no idea she's 24 like she's getting up
there so yeah I don't I don't think the fronds it's going to be like frondier something probably it's
going to be you know yeah I think frond I think fronds I think fronds will be what it is I think
is what it should be it's it's easy rolls off the rolls off the tongue you know what else there's
something with like no that one weren't I take it back never mind I'll say I can't be deli because
that's dumbass and they're just not going to put that much thought into it they just they don't
like sit around dreaming of nicknames it's just whatever whatever happens like I've never heard
anyone called classic pickle they call them glass these well yeah that's a I've never heard a team
may call him pickle no they're called they did they calm turbo yeah for two because it's because it's
funny because it's like because he is not it's like the character in zootopia names flash it's the
sloth yeah yeah I think it's going to be fronzy or something like that that'd be my guess we'll find
out soon all right that was quick let's get another one look at us get that from this one from
that's crazy question if Blaschle slash Kyle Davidson gave Lucas Reiko as many chances as they
gave Berkowski do you believe things may have gone differently yes he wasn't great but I didn't
feel like he was given much of a run with the top six and the five-ish years he was here with the
team as what Berky has this year I can we I'm done talking about Lucas Reiko I will answer this
question but like guys he was given a lot of opportunities and no coach is going to say
we've been telling you to do xyz for five years and you've not done it for five years
here play in the first line that's just not how the NHL works it's just not yeah the Hawks
couldn't figure it out with Reiko the conucks gave up on him after what like three weeks it wasn't
a long time and now he scores in Providence and he has a goal for the Bruins at about hit a
stanchion and bounce in front of him like and it's and now the Bruins think they've found they've
unlocked Lucas Reiko I guarantee you they have not he is going to have a very very six six set
whoop whoop well John McDonnell would have fired me for that um we'll have a very successful
career in Europe he will go to Europe and be a superstar and make a lot of money and play for a
long time he just is not an NHL player he and Andre Berikovsky by the way was a key part of two
Stanley Cup teams and until this incredibly horrible slump he's in track record he was a team's
leaning score for a good part of this season or third second or third leaning score for a good
part of this season right now is he fourth I think is he's still he's still fourth as he's
the little third he might still be third um yeah I mean Reiko had a lot of opportunities uh he's
uh oh wait no he's down to fifth now um Reiko had a lot of opportunities over the years that he was
in Chicago and I yeah I just think it just didn't materialize and you could say like oh like
you know they buried him on the fourth line is this we saw that with how they were handling
Nick Lardis and Nick Lardis did what the coaches wanted him to do right and you know got rewarded
with like hey you know what you did with what we asked so we're going to have you move up a little
bit that's that's kind of how how it works and you know with Berikovsky there's a track record
there as you mentioned there's a track record of success in different roles and with different
styles of players so they're going with that now that you have someone who you can look at and say
well that's someone we can replace them with and it's going to make the team better and it's part
of the long-term future yeah it was an easy no-brainer move to put Frandel in in that spot even though
as much we were worried that it wasn't going to happen it eventually did um and now Berikovsky is
going to be put into a spot where uh you don't have to force him into the lineup and force him into
situations to try and fix something it might actually now work on that line with Denado and McKayev
to get him maybe just even just out of the slump maybe he gets a goal or an assist or you know
just just stacks good games where it's not turnover turnover turnover turnover turnover turnover
and then that can be just good for him mentally which can help him physically as he plays
I think that he is way better suited as a depth score and now this opportunity to become just
that long as he scores yes um I don't know it's weird the whole thing with Berikovsky is weird
the coaching thing with him is weird uh skidmark pointing out that Lucas Freikovsky is the only
player he's ever seen sorry skidmarked a third no offense to the first and second skidmarked
not to be confused he says is the only player Rikkels the only player I saw skated into the corner
on a breakaway yes he did do that yes he did do that um I know people really like Lucas Freikov he's
a really nice kid we were all very much rooting for him his success in Chicago would have been
excellent he's a skill he's a very skilled player yes yes but just sometimes the most skilled
players just don't work out there and there's been players drafted higher than him
nail yacapov comes to mind as a guy who was a can't miss NHL superstar that it just never
panned out Kirby doc the jury's out on him right like it's just yeah some guys just for whatever
reason it doesn't work out and I think Lucas Freikov might be one of those guys picked in the middle
of the first round felt like somewhat stretchy when Bowman took him there maybe three or four spots
earlier than you'd expect nothing drastic nothing fireable but just you know it's a crapshoot
and someone asked earlier do you have too many prospects right now to the hawks have too many
prospects you don't know how what they're going to be and guys you think are going to be great might
not be technically yes and then you're going to get your Louis creviers who like oh my god right what
the hell we can't take this guy off the ice you know so it's it things are that's the beauty
of a rebuild is there's so much to play out yet even though all of your top prospects are
basically in the NHL right now pretty much aside from Kevin Kortzinski and pretty much until the
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the 14th says the black hawks aren't just loaded with young players prospects they're also stock
piled they've also stock piled series draft capital with four first round picks and five seconds
over the next two drafts but yes believe that's correct looking at this year specifically who
would you target with both the hawks own pick and the florida pick assuming that it is not
pushed to 2027 which right now florida would be drafting if the lottery plays out yep the way it is
right now if it was chalk florida's picking twelfth hawks would get that pick question can
you use personally i'd lean towards size and skills someone like six foot two center Caleb
melhotra with our pick and six foot four winger oscar hemming with the florida pick curious how you
approach balancing upside positional need and size with these assets i have to be perfectly honest
with you i have not done enough draft research yet i can't i can't honestly answer that question for
you i can tell you boy like at the top i've our sendberg would be my number one pick if the hawks got
the number one pick um beyond that yeah there's guys that like vio biorka i like a lot but he's
another small forward but at some point you had to dismiss like how many conversations if we had
just look at Montreal about you can't take this guy is too small cold coffee old discord is 45th
goal of the year he could lead the league and goals and and lean Hudson is a stud already right and
the the reason they fell so far in the draft was because all well they're way too small
is vio biork that kind of a guy i don't know but all i know is every time i see him play i'm like who's
that oh that's biork again right making a good play like that that he stands out on tape so that's
a guy i've sort of circled just from watching a world juniors and stuff but i am not entrenched
enough to to give you anything about middle round first round picks yet i'm just being honest at the
top of the draft for me uh if you're number one i go with sendberg if you're one or two take your
pick of whoever's left between sendberg and mccana um if you're at you know we kind of have the
conversation a little bit last night if you land three four five are you that enamored with one
of the defenseman read or carols or veroff that you use that pick and and and take the defenseman
um or do you you use that as potential trade bait or could you make a case that one of those
forwards beyond those defenseman you can throw Albert smits into that conversation as well i like
that's another guy who said out to me and he's a big guy we know Kyle davidson likes big defenseman
but do you if you're three or four but you feel like
we're you know do we need the defenseman could we go forward do you reach on a on a guy like
melhotra who i really like and you continue that stretch of drafting brantford bulldogs um you could
you could do that too um but that's a that's if you if you're three or four or five
i'm okay with taking the one of those defenseman me too because you've got the covers bear
defensively even though all your prospects are playing right yes but beyond that having more
guys that that could be like look we we really like Ethan del masro and we really like we crevian we
really like you know kevin corchinsky but if your top four right now is vlasik lefchenov rinzel kaiser
if you get a more talented player that you put in your top four and you say okay well now rinzel's
on the third line yeah he should he should be higher your player is kaiser and rinzel is your third
pair like okay you know i hate to always go back and and talk about the dynasty but it was great
nicles jomerson on two-thirds of nhl teams is a top pair defenseman but he was a second pair guy
here because of how many good players you had so i think there's a case to be made for one of those
defenseman in that in that spot beyond the top two there's also a case to be made to use it as a
trade piece if florida's pick ends up being the hawks pick meaning it's outside the top ten
i they're not making the playoffs um i really like uh add navatni i again like i i think
is that the sum of yad navatni nhl legend i don't uh i forget i looked this up before i can't
for i can't remember fits at the answers yes or no um i hate it but i like these kids of players
a group watching i i like his his profile fits like a kyle davidson like aggressive forward
size scoring touch like it really feels like a guy that can be like that like nestressel vennacker
bovair style a player um who gives you a little bit of that in the in the forwards group so
um that's a guy that i'm looking at like mid rounds if it's twelve
maybe it's a stretch i do like as uh heisenberg mentioned the question ask her how many
two that's of he's a solid guy like if you have a big forward that's got scoring ability and skill
it's never bad to have those guys i also like beagle bork yeah they have a lot of a lot a lot of options
so i think of vigo from ghost plusters oh yeah a lot of meme opportunities right there oh yeah
vigo and biork this the iselandic singer boom it does itself all right what do we got next this one
from max m says uh with how well some of the more unheralded prospects have played the season
kaiser and green especially what would it take for the media and fans to recalibrate expectations
for what they could become as players why it sure seems like he could be a top-parent guy
and although green's points don't reflect his usage he definitely looks like he'll play in this league
for a long time and yet i keep seeing fans and media lowering exportation for these guys green
is a third or a fourth liner in a long term maybe not he's only 22 and why it's only 23 i i think
when you're hearing those comparisons they're followed by on a cup contender on a cup contender
as the team continuously gets better yes if we're talking about the black hawks competing for
sanley cups i love ryan green ryan green has been my biggest surprise of this year i love his game
seems like a great dude i am all in at number 20 but ideally that is a third line on a cup
winning team why a kaiser is he one of the hawks best defenseman right now yeah there's no doubt
about it but he is not a top-parent defenseman on a contender if you went if you looked at every playoff
team in his league why a kaiser is not on a top pair for any of those teams it's not a knock on him
but could why a kaiser be this generation's necklace jomerson maybe i i love his play he's really smart
he is great with the puck good with the outlet passes you know kind of like having another coach
on the ice i really like why a kaiser but i think what the question was for max was why are people
downplaying it it's not downplaying it it's slotting them correctly for when this becomes a
time to win the cup where do these guys slot right yeah as as you're talking about adding frondel
and adding cancer of um you you slot ryan green probably down and and it's just it's not it's not
to say that he is a lesser player it's just some of those guys just have higher ceilings higher
higher skill that was right and like could ryan green be like a brand in sod where it's just like
he's not the highest skilled guy but he might play really well with some other top guys sod played
with tays and hosa really well yeah at times played with kane and shaw um but you would never say like
he was the best guy on that line could ryan green be like that um potential career high
we when he went to columbus he had uh fifty more prominent roles two years in a row yeah
but i think yeah i don't know if he'll ever get there but i just i just mean like 30s or 40s short
yeah i just mean like a guy that can play above his weight because he matches well uh you know with
the brain side of hockey and the skill set like he can match up and play with bedard and frondel
and and hold his own and not just be like oh they're just they're putting some plug up there like
no like it's it's a guy that skill set can be valuable across the lineup but on a more consistent
basis as all this talent reaches the lineup in theory more or less his consistent spot in the
lineup is going to be that middle or bottom six roll which is fine really good players play those
roles yeah absolutely all right what else we got see them have a few more
uh fee fee fee fee for 25 so obviously a huge if here if the hawks went in the lottery do you
think the hawks get very aggressive and go get a proven sud forward or two knives are
robberton to launch themselves firmly into the playoff hunt few in the lottery make the pick
yeah i think if you win it you're picking yes because i think that you could probably say
stember and makenna for sure torpedoes and has the ceiling to become better than those guys
so yeah you do that and you could plug them in right away and you know they're going to be
good right away are they going to be fully realized no kind of a dart wasn't fully realized right
away but he was immediately your best player even with a junior plus list i love game
just on talent alone so i would take them but i think as we were saying you're talking three four
five that becomes a very enticing pick for uh a teamy be training with i think getting two of those
guys is that would be great i think it's a little far fetched because then you're kind of blowing
up your rebuild you'd have to if you're getting robberton and or knives you're moving on i mean
if you're getting both that's a lot you're losing you're making ones and they make one of those
deals i don't think and that's even if cal davidson does that i i get zero indication cal davidson
is taking all this capital and all these prospects that even we might view them as surplus
and throwing 12 assets out in two trades to get let's say knives and robbertomis or something
like i don't see him doing that whatsoever and i had a uh someone who is pretty plugged in
tell me that they were in on the uh Matthew nice thing at the deadline but the leaves one
of the option of and that was a no go for the hawks which i agree with i think if we're talking
about who is a potential top pair guy in this team he was on mind he's on mind too so they're
there they're sniffing around but that's what the leaves are looking for that's what the stars
will be looking for that's what the blues will be looking for only Brendan shanahan then getting
the way right but but if you add if you're saying you know what we're not going to give you
the left job of how about the number three pick how about the number four pick plus a couple
prospects yeah you could or how about four and eleven and a prospect you really like not named one
of these three or four guys you designated you could do that then you're talking all right
got time for one more let's do one more yeah let's go over time yeah we're going to hit over time
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press a little button first we got to hit the button press the button it's official yeah yeah
yes I have a question is that is the overtime graphic the same for all shows it is yeah so they have
the goal horn too yeah it's just like a stone baller but that's fine um Charlie the big guy
says when you guys are in the press box for home games do you talk strategy on who watches what
or who during the game is funny are you folks naturally and hockey and let the game dictate the
narrative be yeah the second the second part of it yeah there is very little a useful conversation
between the three of us during a game it's usually what kind of soup do they have today
who is bare handed the governor is mark bursivan here or not yeah yeah no yeah I there are times when
we'll say like hey I I notice xyz or something like that um and then that you know conversation will
trickle into the show but uh no it's not like a pre-planned you know just like the show we don't
really pre-plan what we're gonna talk about no not all the time we're getting better at it but yeah
I just think uh yeah I think we we let the game play out and react to it what else is there to do
melt them we got the pepe silva board up all right secret agent man says is there any concern that
there aren't enough spots available in the pro roster then when some of the prospects had the
college they go the dominant james root and choose to become for agents I mean it's certainly
a possibility it's a possibility but I mean if you're if you have so many good prospects that
some prospects don't think that they're gonna get to the NHL with you that just means you have a
lot of good prospects and I like Dominic I like Dominic james and how he developed in college and
he got a great opportunity with Tampa and hey look he got into the NHL with Tampa good for him um
but I just think yeah I just think at some point you will have too many guys and that's when you do
use a surplus of prospects and picks for uh for trades and we this might be a summer where that
happens uh false profit as is press box food even good yes I will say the press box itself is pretty
limited it's popcorn chips uh suit the soup de jure which is a soup of the day um brownies cookies
sandwiches salad yeah like slug they'll have fruit and veggies and sometimes it's it's pretty good
I can't have most of it because of the sandwiches and like pasta salads and stuff
sprinkle gluten on everything just yeah mario got a little shaker but they've got M&M peanuts
M&M's Reese's Pieces gummy worms gummy bears chocolate cover pretzels which was a new edition
that I enjoyed that very much those um and then the meal in the in the press room they'll do a
media meal best deal in town by the way Steven you should come to a game with us uh eleven dollars
eleven dollars and you get to fill your to go container to your hearts content I think if you
took two they wouldn't stop you that was just like seven eleven where you could bring any size
container what there's always like a good couple veggies like you know steam carrots or broccoli
or whatever uh potatoes there's always like um what they had like that uh the other night they had
mustard uh grilled chicken was great so the other night they had barbecue ribs which were really
good yeah they had uh cheddar grits yep which were really good uh they had like uh grilled like
grilled potatoes grilled carrots um they've done like build your own build your taco build your
own Italian beef Italian beef station salad bar which you know you pass by um I get a salad every
game I feel that little top left container potato salad doesn't count they've got a I hate
potato so they've got a really nice like a like a Italian pasta salad too that's yeah yeah they
did and they've done in a low taste uh corn yeah for no the United really good like the media meal
is the best eleven dollars you'll ever spend because it's good food it's a ton of it and it's
it's uh levy that does all their catering which is legit great it's legit very good all right I'll
get credential all right get yourself a credential and come coming out with us come come have a meal
Patrick says if it isn't steak Steven doesn't care I mean you did say ribs you have eat the ribs
they've had some good yeah they said they've had good ribs the the the stone mustard the stone
ground mustard um john chicken was is really good they've done um oh what's the Italian dish
chicken catchatory yeah really good like it's yeah it's solid it's really nice it's we're spoiled
all right this is a first round never made it to the end of the mailbag questions in one show
we've done it we did it thank god for overtime all right uh sam says overall projection for
western playoffs in 2627 anyone fall off hard similar projections for this year cold take you
talk continues to improve hot take father time comes for Dallas and they barely make it or don't so
someone in the chat asked a question earlier it might have been Fubar totale saying uh who is
going to fall off for the hawks to jump over next year every year there is a team that no one
expects to make a jump and there is a team that no one expects to suck look no further than the
Maple Leafs this year well I'm sure some people would expect no one expect them to be well look at
it a disaster look at the jets president's trophy last year not going to make probably not going
to make the playoffs this year uh I mean the blues were in the playoffs last year the Florida Panthers
the uh Detroit Red Wings who are probably not going to make the playoffs how about the penguins
whoever was calling the worst team in hockey they're third in the metro devils and capitals were in
the playoffs last year they're not getting in this year yeah um how about the Sabers right
Columbus Columbus was like down with the hawks then they fire their coach and now they're they're
you know uh second in their division like it's it's it you never know how things will shake out
what teams are going to go on runs what teams are going to fall off a cliff you don't know who's
going to get injured um it's really hard to predict I feel confident saying that Colorado Dallas
and Minnesota will probably still be they'll be up at the top of the central division um Utah I
agree with uh with Sam I think they're going to continue to just they're they're a team that
I think the hawks are trying to blueprint and kind of follow their path um I think Anaheim is
going to still be pretty good I wonder about Nashville um yeah they I don't know about the Kings
I don't know about the Kraken I don't know which direction Winnipeg's going Calgary's not getting
better Vancouver's not getting better oilers what are these lit written all over them see how long
they hold on um it's a bad culture it feels like yeah I just I feel like there will be teams for
the hawks to to take advantage of and look like like we were kind of saying uh with with PD um
couple a couple bounces go your way and you you know 13 overtime and shoot out losses could be seven
and and you turn a couple of those into wins you add a couple points and you would be ahead
of Calgary and St. Louis and potentially San Jose and you're not talking about like oh how are
they going to jump all these teams like couple bounces man and and hockey is a crazy sport like that
so I think as this team gets better you'll you'll be surprised that as to which teams um they could
uh you know they could we prog so to say and it's it's always cyclical like
what are the hawks of the 2010s we thought we were in in store for a 15-year run and it was
seven years yeah and and ended with a splat yes very very quickly all right we're going to wrap
things up uh our diehards the video is posted right now at allchio.com 20-minute video breakdown
from PD on Anton Frontel's debut we will also send that link into our diehards only discord
so i will look for it there as well become a diehard use our code hawks 36 dollars for the year
and yes that includes the free t-shirt and all the uh kutra malt that go along with being a chio
diehard lots of french today de jour and de jour what's this guy talking about i don't know
anno domini scroll up Stephen what's this guy talking about well i said soup de jour which is
and he's saying de de jure i don't know what that is does he got any other comments i don't think so
i haven't seen that person before oh there yeah what's he saying bye right uh jeer by right according
the law all right oh okay i'm talking about soup soup of the law super the law super the law super the law
hey if you're going to the uh torrent and sirens game tonight in rosemot pw h o i'll be there should be
a good time say hello if you're looking for tickets go to game time get some of its support women's
hockey in chicago so we get women's hockey in chicago turn out games at seven we will we are j maybe
depending on who you believe no comment talk to you tomorrow five thirty pregame for the debut of
Sasha boi there on the chicago black hawks talk to you uh then
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