Breaking Down The Alien Agenda - David Icke | DEBRIEFED ep. 81

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David Hike.

A British author, researcher and speaker who's challenged mainstream views for over three

decades.

Born in 1952 in Lester, England, he began as a professional footballer then became a prominent

BBC sports broadcaster and journalist.

In the early 1990s, he'd left the mainstream media after a now famous TV appearance where

he was widely mocked for his emerging views on reality and power.

Let me say this, they're laughing at you, they're not laughing with you.

Fine.

He is since authored more than 20 books, including The Biggest Secret, exploring theories

of reptilian shapeshifters, interdimensional beings influencing humanity, and a reincarnation

cycle trapping souls in illusion.

Once dismissed, many of his warnings about global control and hidden agendas have gained

new attention as recent revelations and events unfold.

And at 73, he still remains a very provocative voice.

To sit down, strap yourselves in, and for the next few hours, I ask that you suspend

your disbelief as we welcome David Hike.

David, thank you so much for joining me and thank you for inviting me here.

Pleasure.

A lot of things I want to talk about today.

There's a few conversations, first of all, I think that talking to you in the current

climate and the current situation of the world is quite fitting and it feels like you're

through what we're seeing and all the alternative media that's come out and just people being

open to this idea of the subconscious or the unconscious or consciousness in general.

It feels like you're being more and more vindicated throughout this portion of history.

How do you feel about that?

Yeah, well, I remember when I started out, consciously started out in 1990 and in the years

that followed, I mean, I couldn't generate any interest in any of this stuff.

I couldn't generate interest in the fact that a few people were running the world and

there weren't people who thought were running the world.

I couldn't generate interest in the whole idea of consciousness like who are we, where

are we, what is this place?

When I look at it now, 36 years later, well, I know people say, people aren't

waking up fast enough.

Well, okay, I'll go with that.

But they should have been with me in 1990.

I mean, to me, this is DreamLine now because there are so many people who would have waved

this whole stuff away before and said ridiculous, crazy, who are now beginning to look and

say, well, maybe it's not so crazy.

So it's great in that sense.

But, you know, do you feel a sense of vindication?

Well, vindication in the sense of what I've talked about and what I've said is the plan

for humanity has turned out to be increasingly true as being for a long time now.

But it is also frustrating because I've seen people come into the alternative media, which

didn't exist when I started out, just a few desperate individuals, you know, handing

out leaflets, no internet as we know it now.

They've come in and they've basically taken it over.

And they've taken it over in terms of algorithmic promotion because the algorithms now are

absolutely bottom line if you want to get information out.

Because if the algorithms are suppressing you, what's called shadow banning, then it

doesn't matter how many people follow your page, say on X, you will not have vast numbers

of those people seeing what you post unless they go to your page and actually look at

you individually.

And what this kind of hijack has done is come in and stop the what should be the constant

expansion of questions about everything.

Tell you what I mean.

So you come in and you say the conspiracy is politics and finance and the system.

It's the world of the scene, that's it.

And so what you're doing with people that go with that is they may have been there before

and now they've done there.

But they're still in a box because it might be a slightly bigger box, but it's still a box

because they're not going beyond it.

It's like, oh, everything's here.

And if you notice now so much of what is put out as the in the conspiracy arena is like

going round and round so I can edit in the river.

The edit, the river is flowing past, knowledge, potential knowledge inside all that stuff.

But you go in round and round, basically repeating the same stuff.

And I've always worked and it served me very well on the principle of what's attributed

to Socrates, the ancient Greece philosopher, philosopher, which is to know is to know you

know nothing or put another way wisdom is knowing how little we know.

Because what that does is you always know and this really is one of, I guess one of the

few things that can't be challenged that whatever we know or think we know, there's always

more to know.

And once you put a lock and a block upon that expansion into okay, I think I've got

this.

But what don't I know?

You are creating this Eddie and you're stopping the expansion of awareness into those areas

not only to understand the scale of human control, but that's where the answers lie.

They don't lie here.

I mean, what do you do?

You're going to vote for party A. Yeah, okay, so you don't like what they've done.

No, or don't.

So how would I get rid of them?

We have to vote for party B, okay.

I mean, they're doing pretty much the same.

I don't get rid of them or you've got party A again.

And this is the Eddie round and round and round.

And so I've always worked on the premise of whatever I know, there's always more to know.

And that has taken me on an extraordinary journey from in the early 90s uncovering this

what I call global cult, this global network of secret societies that are driving world

events, fiercely compartmentalized, it's the inner circle, it's really doing the driving.

And then it, my next question was, okay, so when did this start?

Because obviously it didn't start five minutes ago or 50 years ago and you start to look

back and you get comfortably back into a room and Babylon and Egypt and all that stuff.

And you realize actually that this has been going on all through this period of what we

call history or what we think is history.

And so then the next question you ask when you're saying, okay, what don't I know is what's

the common factor that has spanned this period of time where people have been born into

this cult, if you like, they have played a part in advancing its control.

And then they've died.

And then other people or their own consciousness has come back and it's gone on to present

day.

What is the force that spanned that whole period?

And what I have found is that when you ask the big questions, you get the big answers.

When you keep asking questions and you really want to know the answers, it's not just an

add-on, you really want to know.

As I understand it, I've understood it more and more as this period has gone on.

We are interacting with the quantum level, if you like, of reality.

And we are creating a feedback loop between our perceptions of reality, including our

questions of reality and the quantum level of energy, that level of all possibility,

all potential, waiting to manifest.

How do we manifest it with our perceptions of reality?

What you believe, you perceive, what you perceive, you experience.

And so by continually asking these big questions, like, okay, so what is this force that

that spans this whole period?

And suddenly, the synchronicity, and I know young Karl Young talked about synchronicity,

but what is synchronicity?

Synchronicity, if you break it down, is our interaction with all possibility, with all potential.

And so people talk about prayer when they're praying for help from God.

Yeah, but is it God that's delivering, or is it you that's delivering by the focus of

attention that you're giving to your interaction with this quantum level of all possibility?

So what I've been experiencing through these years, when I've asked the big questions

and the next question, the answers have come.

And they've come through synchronicity, walking into people, documents, books, personal experiences,

and so on, that are being like handing the puzzle pieces in a jigsaw.

That's actually pretty much in the order necessary to see where they go.

And so what this is just to finish, what this is done, it's taken me from those that run

the world, and not people seem to be running the world, it's all happening in the shadows.

To what then happened in the mid 1990s, where this whole non-human aspect of the human control

came in, that's the force that spans these generations from another dimension of reality.

And on to the nature of reality itself, which includes, I have long concluded,

like about the turn of the millennium, that this is actually a, this reality is the equivalent

of a vastly advanced virtual reality computer game.

And we are being manipulated to stay within its, its orbit of control.

A lot unpacked there, that's, you know, there's so many teachings and so many books and so many philosophers

that all, you know, point to some semblance of this being the reality that we're interacting with,

even, you know, quantum physics and sort of, if you look into simulation theory,

and it all kind of plays within this a little bit.

But what you're, I guess, suggesting is that there is a controller on the other end of this.

And that controller, you know, might have some type of personal gain through doing this.

Whatever that gain like be, whether that's, you know, we talk about loose, like, you know,

Robert Monroe's sort of teachings, or whether we talk about just keeping everything in a lower vibration

for, you know, whatever, whatever personal appeal that might offer them.

I want to go back to in the mid 90s, you met with a Zulu Shem and Crado Moodwa.

Yeah, that was very late 1990s.

Yeah, and, you know, six-hour interview, it was, I watched the whole thing, it was really interesting

because not only does he mention the sort of the shittari, I think, which are like essentially reptilians

by the same definition or reptile-like beings, but also these other beings that were sort of like

Nordics, like these tall blondes that would have the ability to sort of disappear.

Yeah, he was still about the grays.

And the grays as well.

And I thought that was really interesting because you don't often hear sort of a comprehensive,

sort of, I guess, picture based on all of these different species and what the role is,

but he kind of had a really comprehensive explanation for all of this.

How much has his teachings and his stories?

How much has that impacted how you see the phenomenon, not as much as you would think,

because the relationship with myself and Crado was one of, he would tell me the ancient stories

of Africa and the Zulu legends and the Zulu accounts.

And I would tell him, well, I'd learned in the modern world, and the extraordinary thing was,

is why we got on so well, is we tell it, we told the same story, because by the time I came across

Crado Mutwa when I was speaking in South Africa, I'd already concluded that there was a reptilian

non-human level of human control that this global cult of secret societies, but certainly it's

in a core, was basically the vehicle within our reality, which is only a band of frequency,

for imposing upon humans the agenda that was coming from this other reality, what people

call the astral reality. And so I'd concluded many of the things that he told me about,

but what he did, which added massively to it, was confirm that the ancient stories were telling

the same story that I was covering, like when I was in America during the 1990s, I mean, I was

talking to nobody. I was supposed to be on a speaking tour. Well, that was great, but I was

speaking to chairs, not people most of the time. But what was happening then is I was meeting

all these different people, whistleblowers, people, formerly of the military, people who

experienced UFOs and stuff. And they were telling me all this stuff, they told me about the

reptilian. So not just them, I was getting this from members of the public, I remember there was a

period in what need be 1996, when I was speaking to noboga night after night in different places.

And in a period of 15 days, I met 12 separate people who told me the same story of how they'd

seen, this is synchronicity, how they'd seen some want to appear to be human who shifted into a

reptilian form. So by the time I met Crado, this was starting to become clear in my mind, but what

he added was the phenomenal knowledge he had of the ancient legends and the ancient accounts.

And also, of course, he talked about his own abduction by what appeared to be gray entities,

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I think where it gets so complicated with all of this stuff is that,

you know, you have this idea of an overarching agenda. But then individually, there are hundreds

of thousands of cases. And all of these cases have a variant amount of interactions.

Like you said, a lot of them have classic displays of being taken from your bedroom at night,

being you had these things performed on you, these specific procedures. You meet a few entities

on board. They show you the end of the world to give you a tour of the ship and they bring you back.

And it's like this kind of, but within that, you have a varying degree of some of them felt like

they were benevolent. Some of them felt like they were malevolent. Some of them felt like they

were hurting me others. And so there's this varying degree of what seems like agendas behind,

you know, these altercations. How do you sort of, I guess, what do you make of all of that?

Does it all fall under the same umbrella? Or are there different species interacting with us?

Or is this all just part of the same control system? Well, I think in the end, it's part of the same

control system. And I think that you can equate a lot of these abduction experiences in the way

you've described. You know, there are common themes to them. But there can be a bit different

here and there, but there's common themes to near death experiences. When the body dies,

ceases, I would say, to decode this simulation reality. And you find yourself in another dimension

of reality with completely different, quote, laws of physics. And it's all the tunnel and the light

and the life review. I mean, they are absolutely classic. I've listened and read so many of these

accounts over the years, the near death. But I've also talked to many people who have had these

abduction experiences. And I'm not sure you can necessarily put them all in one box.

It's not something where everyone has exactly the same experience. But there are very compelling

common themes. And you know, in this sequence of unfolding awareness through, okay, so what don't I

know? It took me eventually into the understanding that this human reality, like I say, just a

band of frequency is actually ultimately being manipulated from another level within this

matrix simulation that we call the astral dimension. And that that astral dimension is where

at least the great majority of these so-called extraterrestrials are in terms of the reptilians

and other and other types. And I remember, again, what's happened in my life is I've reached

conclusions from various research I've done. And I thought, okay, I think this is what's going on.

And then something will come along and give you a massive confirmation of, yeah, that's on the ball.

So I eventually came across Robert Monroe, the Monroe Institute, to develop the

ability to project his consciousness into the astral dimension. The gateway process.

Of course, yeah, the gateway process and also how the US military got involved, their psychological

area, and did this study of the gateway process and the projection into the astral.

And what hit me was that the astral travelers, if you like, in the study,

came across so many reptilian entities in the astral. They gave them the collective name of the

alligator. And that was like, well, that's what I concluded that these

entities were coming from the astral. So once you

or put it another way, if you don't research this vast range of subjects that may not seem

to have any connection, you're never going to get the picture. And the key one

to understand everything is the nature of reality and the nature of the eye, the real eye,

not the human body eye, it's just an experience. I mean, consciousness, the infinite eternal eye.

But also the fact that we are in a a a a a a band of frequency. And even within this

band of frequency, the human sight can only see a tiny, tiny, ridiculously narrow

smear of it called visible light. And so if if you don't look at the nature of reality

and of course, if if you're looking at your schools and your education system and your media and

what have you where most people get their information from, therefore their perception of reality,

I don't talk about this stuff. You know, orthodox science is the the the the point of reference

that the media and education takes it takes it point of reference from in terms of reality.

But when you really are willing to break out of the box and explore beyond the limitations of

orthodoxy, you so many questions suddenly become answered like, you know, I've said many times

one thing that children should be told at the earliest time that they can grasp it is that when

they look through their eyes, they're not seeing everything in the space that they're looking at.

They're only seeing a tiny band of frequency visible light. And therefore, you know,

there is this this this impose sense of normal that you get from the education system and

the media, etc. It's it's it's not just a a perceptual prison in the the wider sense.

It's a perceptual prison about the very reality that we're experiencing. For instance,

the norm is that people just accept is normal is that when you look through your eyes, you're seeing

everything in the space you're looking at. You're seeing everything in the space. Oh yeah,

of course I am. You're okay. So where's the Wi-Fi then? Where's the Wi-Fi? You see,

but you can't see it can you? No, you can't because you can only see a narrow band of frequency.

So for instance, people say what honestly, mate, I'm standing there and this UFO appeared out

of nowhere and then it just disappeared into nowhere or people say I woke up and there was this

entity at the end of the bed just appeared and then it disappeared and of course normal goes

what you want, mate? That's ridiculous. That's impossible. Control of the sense of the possible

is one of the greatest forms of human perceptual control. This is why we have orthodox science

here and no further. But what's happening of course is something enters visible light suddenly

to the observer they've seen it come out of nowhere. It leaves the visible light, changes its

frequency, bang its disappear into nowhere and these things can be perfectly explainable

but only when you get into the deeper levels of the nature of reality and the system doesn't want

you to do that. If you are a religious follower and you've got this religious story,

don't matter what religion it is, or basically the same, you've got this religious story.

If you go beyond the religious story, first of all you're perceived as a blasphemer,

but if you start to explore what's called the hidden knowledge, well what is another word for

hidden occult? So suddenly you are dabbling in the occult. No no no no you're dabbling in hidden

knowledge which can be used for horrific things and it is or it can be used to say as free. It's

just hidden knowledge but religion says if you go into the occult that's the devil. Now orthodox

science which is another religion by the way, scientism, yeah scientism exactly it is. So it says

this is the story, this is the orthodox science story about reality and if you go there you're a

pseudo-scientist or you are dabbling in the paranormal and they put power in front of normal

because they are seeking to describe a phenomena or phenomena that happens that they can't

explain from the orthodox. It's magic to them. Yeah so if I can't explain it it can't be happening,

that's the orthodox science mindset. It's easier to blame your own perception.

Yeah exactly but what you what you've therefore got, you've got people like Professor Richard

Dawkins who was at Oxford University who's written all these books at lambasting religion.

Okay that's fine but you're you're the high priest of your own made because you are limiting

exploration into all possibility and all potential in the same way that religions are by calling

the occult and you know those that want to know the truth they don't want to a round of applause

or a statue they just want to know what's going on, what this reality is and how it's controlled

and to what end. Then they're the ones that are willing to go there and outside the boxes and

of course when you go there as I well know you're going to get massive really cool condemnation,

you're going to be mad and bad and and all the other labels that are given to you but

if you care about what's happening rather than what people think of you then you'll go anyway

and that's the only the only way we're really going to uncover what's going on is to have no

limit to what we will explore in the very you know sense of wisdom is knowing our little we know

so you're going to keep asking that question okay so what don't I know and when you do that it

takes you into some far out areas you will know it takes you some far out areas very very quickly

and people think you're crazy but as we talked about at the start of our chat here

you can you you can have a choice you can go with the world go with the norms because you fear what

other people might say if you don't or you can go your own way and if what you say has validity

the world will come to you right and that's um that's what's been happening and the world has come

towards me for the simple reason that events in the world have started to happen that have

um made people question the version of the world they had before things that you've you know

foretold in a lot of the senses um I want to get back to discussing this interdimensional control

system because I think that's a big pill for a lot of people to contemplate and to ponder on

you know because there are so many different schools of thought whether they're sort of this

entity or this force has benevolent neutral or malevolent like there are all these different

different schools of thought but in the sense of this reptilian force that you've talked about

uh and that you've written about so many times how do you reconcile the non-physical aspect of it

with these physical encounters what is that is this itself instantiating in our own physical to

control our decisions is it like what's the point of this because I've heard the same stories

I've had a lot of people come to me as well and saying yeah I was you know I saw this person they

in their words phase shifted and transformed into like some lizard and looked at them I was frozen

and fear I couldn't move and then they kind of chuckled and walked away and like these really

bizarre terrifying stories that I'd be frightened of if they happened to me I fail to see how the two

are sort of cooperating okay this could take a while that how I'll keep it as as brief as I can

because there's so many aspects that need to be dot connected to make sense of it all

first of all let's start with this um when people think about heaven are I'm going to heaven

they look up right it's not like that these dimensions of reality share the same space

but they're on different wavelengths and just like radio and television stations they share

the same space but they're on different wavelengths and therefore they don't interfere with each other

unless they're close on the dial and there's a level of this astral dimension that is very close

to this one and and there can be interference which is where you see things like ghosts and these

other paranormal things so there's first of all what is this matrix and what's really

become very clear to me is the years have gone on is just how this explosion of technological

advancement of computers and AI and on virtual reality games and stuff how that is absolutely mirroring

the way we interact with the matrix because what I'm saying this simulation is

is an interactive field of information so it can be so well symbolized by Wi-Fi in a computer

so if I said to people who knew nothing about computers and nothing about Wi-Fi

that in this room was a field of information which if you get the right kit you can tap into it

and it will take that information and it will put it on the screen in a completely different

version to how it that information exists in the in the Wi-Fi field people would look at me and go

you're fricking mad me where is it I can't see it well actually you can't see it because you can

hardly see anything make visible light is so tiny it's a joke I don't think that's an accident

and but if I said it to people now who know about computers know about Wi-Fi they go oh yeah

yeah I know about that Wi-Fi computer see everyone knows that everyone knows that yeah but what's

the difference between you're mad me and all you know about that knowledge that's all it is

and it's a wonderful example of how if you suppress knowledge you suppress perception of the

possible right so we've got this field of information and it's interactive it is affecting us

but we are like posting on the internet our perceptions affect it which is why they want to keep

us asleep because then we're not expanding our awareness and impacting on the field so in the

next question is okay so how do we interact with that field of information and I say that

this and I've been saying this since the 1990s that the human body is a biological computer

a biological software and you know we we have this idea that the biological is natural and the

technological is human made but how do we know that what what you have to do to know that is to have

something that is unquestionably unimpeachably natural to compare it with we don't have that

we think we have that but we don't and I know from researching these these people over these

cultists over you know all the decades they don't treat the biological as natural they treat it

as an advanced form of technology which I say the body is so you've got the body which is

the desktop computer fantastically more advanced and you've got the Wi-Fi field of the matrix

and we are decoding like a computer that information into a totally different form that we

experience as a physical reality apparently physical reality it's not really and so I'm saying

that the the the body is a biological computer that's decoded the matrix now

if I said that to most people they'd say that's crazy how can this be a computer it's a body

okay so when's the last time you thought about breathing only when you were out of breath

you know do you stop and say okay hold a hold a second just stop the conversation a second

I I'm just eating something I've just got to focus and and digest it no just digest it

digest it the body is making and tinkering little changes all the time you go into a hot room

it will it will impact on the body to to meet that challenge of a hot room if you're going to

a cold place the opposite will happen and what I'm saying is that there is also going through

the body psychological programs they are behavioral programs they are reaction programs for instance

an area at the back of the the brain called the reptilian brain full enough when I don't think it's

funny I think it's appropriate and or they are complex as some scientists call it

and and from that we get fight or flight we get the survival instinct these are psychological

responses so there's a psychological aspect to the biological computer but we are consciousness

ultimately we are a state of awareness a state of being aware the question is how aware how how

far do we expand out into this field of consciousness the matrix has been created to make sure

we don't go very far and ideally that the biological computer program will dictate our behavior

responses what have you and you know you can you can sit quietly and you can listen to the chatter

going through your your head you can you can listen to the the the chatter that's constantly going the

white noise chatter of oh you know she said this to me I'd say this to where and I said that to her

and I'm glad I said that and all this chatter is going on all the time but you can observe it you

can observe the chatter the question is what's observing it consciousness the real you is observing the

chatter watch the chatter it's the program playing out right so then I I looked at how mainstream science

explains how we experience reality how we basically interact with reality and it's through the

five senses overwhelmingly and what what we're doing the five senses is they are interacting with a

frequency field I say the frequency field of information the matrix and if you go

massively beyond in frequency terms beyond the walls of the matrix you enter infinite reality

and that's when you start to see the real thing going on because you're starting to tap in with

something outside of the matrix and that's what we call awakening true awakening is when we we

expand awareness of consciousness to tap into that level of knowledge awareness insight that

is beyond the matrix frequency walls and so we are tapping in through the five senses to this

matrix information frequency system the five senses turn that frequency information into electrical

information they communicate it to the brain and there's different parts of the brain that

specialise in the different senses and the brain then forms a sense of reality and I'm talking now

but there's no words passing between us what's passing between us is a vibrational field generated

by my vocal cords it's picked up by your hearing senses and mine it's turned into electrical

information it's sent to the brain and the brain then decodes it into the words we think we're

hearing so so even even even even we are communicating now with it with a but through a vibrational

field and all the senses work like this and if you then take what that really means

is that although we're sitting here and it appears that we have are sitting in an external reality

reality only exists in here doesn't exist out here it seems to be but it doesn't

and so once you then realize that there is no physical there is only energy and consciousness

of different vibrational frequencies for instance I'm sitting here now and I can see a wall I can

see cameras I can see a light I can see the books and a cabinet and everything in between

those forms appears to me appears to everyone to be empty space so what is form Einstein said this

among other people it's energy that has been condensed to a slow enough vibration

to be picked up by visible light within the visible light frequency band therefore we can see it

everything else between the form appears to be empty space it's not empty it's it's full of energy

but it's at a frequency that's outside of visible light so it appears to us to be

to be empty space so when you then ask the question so how come we're experiencing apparently a

physical world what is it you then realize and more and more scientists are now mainstream scientists

are beginning to really see this that actually we're living in a holographic reality that's going on

in here and when you see the advancement now in our world of holographics I mean there's a in the

the east of London there's a show going on all the time of Abba Abba when they were younger in

their prime and they're all holograms and holographics is becoming more and more prevalent you see

people like Elvis as a hologram doing a duet on the stage with a a living Celine Dion for instance

that you can see on the internet so we're moving more and more as technology advances

to the very reality that we're experiencing so if you go on the internet and you

put in on a video platform worse than the effect of people going crazy with

virtual reality games you see them they're in a room like this and it's you know it's just a normal

room then the senses are decoding the matrix into this reality then they put the headset

even more so with the the gloves and the hearing senses you're tricking your sensors and yeah

and in literally seconds their complete sense of reality is taken over especially as they

become more and more sophisticated and you know people that develop these virtual reality games

they're saying it won't be long before you won't be able to know the difference between

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but what you see is this extraordinary capturing immediately of the sense of reality the sense

of perception of people when they put the headset on and you know I used some of these clips

in in my talks and you know you you have people whether that there's a woman in in one clip

and she's standing in a room for you know quite a lot of people in it someone's holding her

hand or arm and saying it's okay it's okay you're in a room it's just a game she is gone

because to her it ain't a game right and so now imagine

because what you can do in with a virtual reality game is you can go

just a game but if your biological computer is constantly decoding the matrix and delivering to you

a sense of reality which you can interact with and override with consciousness but otherwise

the the biological computer is is running your life then from the moment consciousness enters the

body in say in the womb right the way through until the the body ceases to function

you're being fed the equivalent of having a headset on your entire life not only that everyone else

you're interacting with has got a headset on I think there's a very good chance you're going to

believe that the reality that you are being you're having delivered is real and then you look at

death what is death well we don't die we can't die when I say the eye consciousness

but the vehicle the biological computer at some point ceases to function when it ceases to

function it ceases to decode the matrix and deliver this reality to you and you are then freed

to enter probably the reality you were always in all along in terms of consciousness and that's

that's this astral reality or beyond it and you you were experiencing something that's totally

bloody different to anything you've experienced before or you you think you've never experienced it

before and that's where the sort of samsara's wheel comes in yeah yeah in all of them and then

you're on the wheel of samsara's the buddies call it yeah back into this back into this reality

on the basis of crossing the river of forgetfulness and learning lessons to to evolve which is

a total scam so this this is something really interesting that I want to touch on because I think

this particularly this subject of the afterlife and why we're here reincarnation you know these are

subjects that I think are the oldest things that we've been talking about this is what religions

are made of it is our greatest fear it is the deepest question that humans have you know there's

a lot of contention I want to get back to the reptilian stuff a little bit later because they do

have a lot of questions there about the physical nature of it and the metaphysical nature of it but

since we're on this what I'm saying what I'm saying on that subject is there is no physical so we're

talking about physicality right but I mean like our perception of physical yeah another dimension

but the only difference between the other dimension and what we call physicality is the frequency that

they inhabit yeah that it's resonating on and you know it's my view that you can change that

frequency right I mean in many ways you know you look at these astral travelers you know Robert

Monroe etc. who could project his consciousness into another reality he's he's basically

projecting himself into another reality within the frequency band of that reality that's

basically in reverse what these reptilian entities are doing they're able to move between

dimensions so do you think there is a because I mean are you familiar with the Lissurda files this

this interview that happened in like the early 2000s allegedly and Sweden between a man and a

woman who you know claims to be reptilian she across that yeah yeah and so she she I mean there's a lot

of information there and it's quite interesting because as you gather a lot of this information it

seems to corroborate like what she's been saying which is you know just interesting data points

but she does talk about having like you know this control system that they're working with

governments are not unlike what you've been talking about as well but also that there are these

like colonies underneath like Asia that exists I do think that's I think I think you know when

people say you know are they physical or are they not physical I would say well actually all

of the above but they're here yeah some some are I'm sure they're within the earth operating within

the frequency band that of our frequency band human frequency band and but I say that

the real point of reference the real point of control is actually in this other dimension why

are they here then what's the point of being here you think well I mean they're not you know they're

not necessarily all involved in in manipulation I mean you know just because of things reptilian

doesn't mean it's it's you know you know evil in it's in its own sense in and of itself I'm

I'm just saying that this this other dimensional level is but I do think that they are

interacting with the human quote elite and human science and all that stuff within these

very deep dumps or deep underground military bases all around the world which

tend I would say from what I can gather to open out into areas where these reptilians are

you know when you when you look at these these underground bases and you talk to people like I

did a lot in the 90s I was traveling America who bid in those bases you need a higher security

clearance the lower you go down to the point where some were explaining to me how you are weighed

in and weighed out to make sure that when you come out you you're not carrying anything you didn't

take in and and the deeper you go the more extreme it becomes until you you're into these

you know cage children and why have you and you know on iconic where we are now iconic.com

we've had people on former military people who've talked about interacting with reptilians in

and grays in these underground working alongside they're working alongside them yeah

but what I'm saying is that the real point of control is coming from this this this astral

dimension and I'm not saying that all reptilian entities are you know by their very nature of

being reptilian kind of horrible but I the ones I'm talking about and ones I'm exposing who are

you know generating this agenda and it's not it's not only reptilian it's multiple but reptilian

seems to be a dominant form I say they are deeply deeply deeply unpleasant but the other thing is

if if I whether I'm human or whether I'm not human my behavior is dictated by my

consciousness my state of awareness that dictates it right and the the key to this whole matrix

for me this simulation is the consciousness that's behind it not you know entities for their one

level of it but what is the consciousness that's dominating and impacting upon the awareness and

thus the behavior of those entities what's the consciousness that's impacting upon the behavior

and awareness of this global cult especially it's in a in a circles and I tell you what I

always look for when I've been researching all any all this I'm looking for patterns of agreement

it's easy to find patterns of disagreement but what are the patterns of agreement what are the

patterns of agreement between people organizations religions ancient stories

that would in many other areas disagree but what do they agree on and one of the things they

agree on very demonstrably is that this reality is being manipulated from the unseen

uh you could talk about satan and the demons in Christianity talk about satan and the the gin

in Islam you talk about um the archons uh Greek for rulers and uh the demi-erge or um the

Yoda Bayoff in in the Nostek belief system and you know in these other areas like the Zulu arena

the Scientology yeah they they're talking they're talking about the same phenomenon

they just give it different names of course they are because they're different you know belief

systems they're different um cultures so they'll give them different names but they're talking

about that I would strongly suggest the same uh the same entities so for me if you look at

um the classic symbol of this global cult which is the like on the dollar bill and the

reverse and the great seal of the United States the all seeing eye and the pyramid what I'm saying

is that all seeing eye is the consciousness that's driving this um you like I say the

Nostek's call it Yoda Bayoff or the demi-erge and it's the devil or it's satan or it's uh the

demi-erge or yeah you know all these different names I say that is a state of consciousness

and it's created a hierarchy which starts out in the astral where you have your your archons and

your demons and all that stuff astral entities and it comes down into the human

world through this global cult point being that the consciousness is expressed all the way down

and this consciousness is it's not psychopathic it's fricking super psychopathic it's a state of

a consciousness state of chaos upheaval schism and it's interesting when you you look at the different

cultures and how they describe this consciousness this fate god if you like um it comes down to words

like the foolish one and stuff like that it's not it's it's it's it's it's crazy but if it doesn't

matter if it's crazy I mean a psychopath can be crazy but it'll still manipulate you especially

if the psychopath knows what you don't know which is the dynamic between this uh structure I'm talking

about this let's call it this yelder Bayoff consciousness structure and and and and humanity in

general it's to keep them in ignorant of what they know therefore you can be you can be a moron

if you like but you can still manipulate because you know what they don't know and keeping

that dynamic is absolutely vital so um and you can so program people to believe this sense of

normal that I'm talking about but when people come along and say uh and cover what it was going on

here and say to people I think I know my own experience you say to people this is what they're

doing and this is how they're doing it they go mad man you're crazy because you've got to keep

the target population in ignorance of what you know otherwise you lose control the system fails

yeah so what what what what I'm the way this I'm saying this structure plays out is the overall

driver of the whole structure is this consciousness which is super psychopathic and if you look at

what's called the hair test of um psychopathy named after the guy who invented it

there's a series of traits and if you have enough of them they know you are officially a psychopath

well right up there is lack of empathy not being able to put yourself in the feelings of those

you're affecting and and a deletion of compassion now you look at this structure of control

and what you're looking at right the way down the structure whether it's this our

contact force in the astral or whether it the way it plays out into the human world in this

global cult you are looking at super psychopaths we're speaking now at a time when the United States

and uh Israel are still bombing the shit out of Iran and they're not bombing the shit out of the

mullers alone they're doing it out of the the population and so you know the the the Americans

although you know that they they've tried to uh to change the subject but it's been very very

plainly proved that they bombed a school on the first day of the conflict and killed enormous

numbers of kids now you cannot have any measure of empathy and do that

because I call empathy the failed safe mechanism of human behavior so um if if I can feel

what I'm making you feel then that's going to affect my what I'll do and how I'll treat you

if I have no ability to feel empathy or compassion there are no limits on what I will do

and therefore as I've exposed for 30 years now you have satanism doing these people satanism

doing sacrifice of children to the gods why we can come to um they they they they're they're

abusing kids they're sexually abusing kids they're violently abusing kids

you cannot do that if you have a smear of empathy you have to be deleted of it and so what you

have is this consciousness this state of consciousness super psychopathic empathy deleted compassion

deleted consciousness is the driver of this um hierarchical structure coming down into the human

world and that's why they do what they do and the the role of this global cult is to impose upon

humanity the agenda coming from the astral and and that agenda is for um constant ramping up

not least now through technology uh the control of humans until this is what we're looking in the

face of now um the fusion of humans with artificial intelligence so artificial intelligence becomes

the human mind and once it becomes the human mind i.e that becomes the human mind um then we're

not going to be asking questions like who am I where am I what is this place who's running this

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moment the critical mass the separation from god the the moment of this is the point right

it's another controversial thing i don't care um you know the religious god

i don't think people realize what they're actually um worshipping um they're worshipping the matrix

god thinking it's the god that they think is uh something else if you go if you go beyond the

the the walls the frequency walls of this simulation which compare with infinity is fricking tiny

grain of sand in a desert um but if you go beyond it you start tapping into it you're tapping

in to that level of awareness um that is beyond the the manipulation that for me is we if you

want to call it god i i don't use the word god but call it what you like that is is the real

level of expanded awareness so there is a beyond yeah oh yeah absolutely this is tiny um beyond

the control yeah i mean yeah there is a beyond beyond the control system oh absolutely the the

control system this simulation is tiny compared with infinity well what isn't but so you

you're tapping into that and what religion has done is um and i think i absolutely no doubt

over after all these years religion and the different religions have been created specifically as

uh perception no blinder prison cells right you go beyond what islam tells you you're an

infidel or you go beyond what christianity tells you you're a blasphemer and so on and all

they're all bloody same right to keep your people in the box and once you've got people in different

boxes unquestioning rigid belief systems then you've got the perfect scenario for the most

essential thing of the few controlling them any which is divide and rule we're seeing that in a

round out so uh you you you you have this um this god the people think they're worshiping now

when you look at the the um again official science uh break down of the traits of the reptilian

brain um it's uh also includes worship worship is uh an aspect of the reptilian brain um uh

fight or flight uh fear is a fear is a massive aspect of the human brain what are we told we

told to fear god well you're a fear god for no no god wants fearing once you get beyond the matrix

this infinite uh uh uh uh reality this infinite conscious it doesn't want to be bloody worshiped

what does it want to be worshiped but for reasons we can come to this fate god consciousness

absolutely wants to be worshiped and for me what what what we've got is a uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

double whammy setup whereby people are perceiving the negative force as the devil or satan or

y'all to bail off right okay but they're worshiping another guys another disguise of the same force

and they're calling it god this this matrix this simulation is all about duality it's not about

unity it's about duality and what they want all the time is to set up dualities so you can have

good and evil you can have god and the devil they're all dualities and uh dualities are like an

electrical circuit you know you need two polarities and then you you you're your circuits set up

and this polarity is everywhere I mean Islam is a polarity to Christianity Islam is a polarity to

Judaism over the years Judaism has been a polarity to Christianity and so on and so forth

is dualities everywhere in this society because that's how the matrix works and so we um I would say

that you've got people fearing the devil and it's the occult don't go there and you've got people

fearing god and but they're actually the same entity it's all but it's been set up and it's been

set up for one simple reason the many many other reasons but one major reason and that is to um

vampire low vibrational energy that we give off in uh states of emotion and states of thought

and so if you are this schismatic chaotic state of consciousness

you cannot absorb the frequency coming off people this is mainstream science we we give off

frequencies all the time we we call them vibes we've got bad vibes off in yeah well because they're

giving off a frequency which you can feel um and and so you have um you you have this emotion and this

the these thought patterns that go off in the in the in the in the uh the uh the way of frequency

but if if you are feeling joy and love and harmony and balance and peace that is not a frequency

that a chaotic state of consciousness can absorb it needs a frequency that relates to its state

of frequency and that relates to fear it relates to um conflict war suffering deprivation all of

these things so what you've got is this consciousness in its state of being that feeds off human energy

and this um hierarchy of entities and down into the human world the global cult

their job is to generate events in human perception human reality that stimulate and trigger

those low vibrational um states of being uh so so so loose is always uh as uh um

Robert Monroe called it is always um on tap and of course um

you look through what what is known human history or what we think is known human history

what do you see first of all the few have always controlled them any and secondly it's

it's endless war deprivation suffering and what have you and look around the world today

and the depiction of that fear is often a reptile like yeah uh physical being like you have

you know the Naga but Quetzal Quadal you have all these different you know instantiations of

even Carl Jung you'd mentioned Carl Jung his universal archetype for fear was the snake yeah

you know and you know it leads me to believe that like the psychological image we have of fear

is just being projected in a physical manner much like everything we witness today it isn't

necessarily a reptile that we're seeing but we're seeing what we perceive fear to be

in some of these senses yeah um you know we we go back to this you know what you believe you

perceive what you perceive your experience um then anything becomes possible in terms of

how we manifest reality in relation to our perception of reality you know I mean it's like again

you know if you if you look back um in terms of uh ancients they talked about fairies to

talked about the little people and now it's a psychological perception in the more modern world

yeah we talk about we've had airships in the end of the 1800s you know or cities floating before

we could conceive of a flying saucer these were instantiations of things that we could relate to

yeah and I think um that uh they in these entities in the in the astral um they could they

can manifest any way they they want they're using we kind of with the subconscious yeah we yeah

we can perceive them in any way that they want to project right and and I guess you know um

as as you move through what we call time what we call time um and things change then the way

you're projecting yourselves will change um as well in the way that people will then

literally decode you into a sense of reality interesting um you know talking about

luci and and this sort of yeah I don't even know what to call it whether it's whatever sustenance

this negative vibration brings to this control this negative control system um you know there are

also stories are you familiar with dr. Michael Newton yes yes yes and so he's you know he is books

journey of souls was you know the famous one and there you know other derivatives of that same

study where you know he spoke to a lot of people being hypnotically regressed into not only

past lives but what seems to be something that he'd map out this life between life thing yeah yeah

where you know you would come back you would then remember oh my gosh uh how how vain I was in this life

and you'd kind of come to and and then go through these like you said these life lessons uh you

would learn about the next incarnation and sort of sit at these read-throughs and choose your next life

before you were sent back down and you know he had thousands I think he did up to five thousand

individual sessions throughout his lifetime yeah how do you how do you make sense of that is that

two part of some trickery that we're being given well yeah I mean okay so again on this sequence

of okay so what's the next thing that I don't know and one side concluded just after the turn

of the millennium I've been thinking about it for years before but really was big cross my line

that um sure of it that this is a a simulated reality um uh that the when I started

understanding that actually this simulation has other levels was when I thought okay so

I'm I'm banned from a lot of countries now but um before that I was I traveled widely

in since 1990 I um I'm I must have been to six-year-old countries in in my life um

and what you see increasingly in the west now is that most people aren't having a good time

um in Africa and South America Central America in Asia that they're they're trying to survive

another day or another week or whatever um in very challenging circumstances what does that

produce ladies and gentlemen oh loose um and so my thought was okay I can I can get that

consciousness could be manipulated into this reality once but when you when the body ceases to

function and you're released from this reality um why the hell would you come back because most

people will not have had a good time and they'd think well this is a shitty place I'm not going

me back here but they do because by that time I was totally convinced that reincarnation is real

though I have a different explanation for it and what I I see again and again lessons in these

near death experiences yeah now this is an interesting thing with a near death experience

because you you you want to notice when the ones you've you've read that uh where they talk about

the fact that they were told that they have to go back because they have another they have a mission

on earth that this never freaking explained at least most of the time uh and and if you pass this

threshold which is symbolized in various ways you can't go back the river of forgetfulness and now

they do come back to tell their story so what's on the other side of the threshold that if they

pass into it they can't come back in this life uh and and I don't think that's anything like what

near death experiences I've led to believe um uh is is what this is all about when should get

when should get into this this wheel of samsar and start to come back because if you are feeding

of human energy consciousness basically um then if people are leaving and going shit I ain't

going back there then you're going to run out of people but they but they don't and and the reason

is this reincarnation cycle and what I found interesting when I've looked at these near death

experiences is how the dynamic of uh perception is the same as it is here right because most people

they will um look to authority to tell them what to do to tell them what to think

they'll look at scientists to tell them what to think about reality doctors tell them what to

think about health and all this stuff all the system even in the afterlife yeah they looked at

but then when you follow these near death experiences um this is an interesting thing

where they leave the body and they say I've never felt love like it it was blissful

and you go but you believe in reincarnation now oh yeah so why why is it new to you

it's because as I've talked to um people who have this memory it's very again very compelling

common themes they have a kind of retained memory of coming into this reality and passing through

some kind of very powerful electromagnetic field which basically makes their mind a blank

sheet of paper when they come in so when they leave the body that state of awareness is still there

that's why they say I'd never felt anything like experience anything like it before because to their

mind they haven't yeah but then they then they go up the the toilet and and what um what appears

uh again and again um first of all we're prepared in this reality to symbolize or equate the

light with God so when we leave the body it's like there's a light I'm going to the light it's

God um you'll see um as they describe spirit guides um loved ones sometimes um yeah they will

see their religious hero if they're religious they'll see elders people in long gowns and

with with long beards and what's that all about oh because we're prepared here to perceive wisdom

as uh wisdomed old people you know like you know um with beards and what have you

and and and and cloaks and so what when you listen and watch these new death experiences

they are mesmerized by authority in the astral as they're mesmerized by authority here it's like

I know nothing so I've got to look to an authority figure to tell me what's going on to tell me

what to think and if your consciousness has been wiped on the way in and he's still wiped

on the way out then you are going to look to authority figures aren't you and that's

why it's so important in my view anyway that um we we understand the nature of the trap

while we're still in a human a human body so that when we leave we don't fall for the don't fall

for the game and that you know the Buddhists have this um belief that the the the the best opportunity

of getting out of the matrix what I call the matrix it into infinity is immediately after you leave

the body and the other thing interesting is they say that what what you have to do is um beyond the

wheel of samsara learning but only these lessons but when you reach a state of enlightenment

you can get out of the wheel of samsara what is a state of enlightenment it's expanded awareness

it's a self identity with the true i consciousness infinite infinite consciousness and uh an end

to self identification thus perception with the phantom self i which is either i'm a human we're not

we're having a human experience briefly or the the soul i in the astral whatever you lose that you

you go beyond it you realize that you're just a state of awareness ultimately infinite awareness

and that changes your frequency state that the matrix can't hold you anymore this is the way i'm i see it

and uh if you stay within the matrix perceptual realm which is either i am human or i am a soul uh who

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there's um a book by an author called Lawrence our Spencer uh and in this book he apparently

he speaks to uh through letters to this lady named Matilda McElroy who claims that she had

interactions with the being in part of the Roswell crash and that this being imparted all this

knowledge on to her yeah I've seen that yeah about this being sort of a prison planet yeah uh

that that uh this is like the the place where they send all the you know the worst sort of

souls or or consciousness you know beings too um in order to keep them sort of imprisoned here

um this I this guy also turned out to be you know a Scientologist yeah yeah I don't I don't go with

that yeah I think I think people have been trapped here um but there are some similar themes

yeah they're all similar themes but I think they've been trapped here by um once you enter

this matrix it's like putting the headset on right here's being tracked your perceptions

start to be uh overwhelmed by um by being basically hijacked and hijacked in a way that lowers

your frequency and and and you you you you're within the walls of the matrix the frequency

walls of the matrix and it's the awakening process most importantly in my view the self identity

awakening from I am human I am ethalon the checkout build driving the bus to I am all that is has

been and ever can be having a brief human experience that is a completely different uh frequency

that you are operating on because as you expand your self identity you're expanding your your

frequency you're expanding your consciousness deeper and deeper into the field and that's

what we call awakening and if you um if you self identify with being human or self identify with

the wheel of samsara but to learn lessons you'll stay within the matrix that's my view anyway

do you think you're ever coming back only by choice by choice yeah and um I can't wait I can't

work out mate why I chose this one but that's the question very good reason for it you've

probably come back a few times not just the ones right yeah well the idea the thing is uh

we have a perception of reality based on the matrix constantly feeding us a sense of reality

but when you're outside of the matrix your sense of reality is totally different so you'll

you'll see that people are trapped in in our souls are trapped within this um this this fake reality

and you also realize that going in for a human life and coming out is not that it's not that

it's there is no time anyway it's just an illusion as well but a illusion of the matrix of the

simulation but um the the time we're here which in our perception is like three school years and

ten or whatever when you're outside the matrix it's it's it's not even that so the decision to

to to to come in and try to make a difference my not being that being looks very different out

there than it does here like you're going why did I bother like you know so you so you think

you would come back in in terms of like in what capacity to just keep helping people and getting

them to realize they're in a matrix and sort of expand their awareness so that way to I guess that's

the idea I mean when I when I look at my life that that that seems to have been a reason I came

at this time because you know um I I went through my life until um 1990 and then uh or hell broke

loose um my life completely changed and the synchronicity of my life completely changed um and

it it's very clear that for whatever reason I've come to do this um and uh whether I would come

back well I guess I guess you'd look at it and you go is it worth it you know is there a chance

you know if you got you if you if you've got um AI human fusion and AI is telling people what to

think well I mean I don't know maybe I maybe it's time for a rethink don't you think they would

prevent you from coming back I don't think they can really no um you know the thing is you know

people say um where's where's God or whatever you know why isn't God intervening but

you know we we are a in a um in in such a frequency um a low frequency feel that anything that comes

in would be affected by that feel so the the the the challenges for us to awaken and therefore

frequency a frequency expand to connect with what people call God um but it's it's not the religion

God it's it's a state of all possibility a state of all potential which which we we are constantly

on a an infinite journey of exploring forever forever um interacting with all possibility

with our perception of possibility and and experiencing what that manifests um it's um

what we're in is such a limited a limited place that's designed to be limited um but we can

we can go beyond it we don't have to be uh we don't have to submit to that limitation we just um

are constantly giving a story that that says limitation is is is is is is is is is is the nature of

of life um for instance um what are the laws of physics they're the they're the laws encoded in

the matrix you know if you if you're if you're putting together a computer game um the creator of

the game is encoding into the game the limits of of the game and how the game is played and what

you can do and what you can't do and this that's playing out through the biological computer

but uh with consciousness which is ultimately limitless in its potential if it just remembers

its true nature i can override that process you can you can you can make things um happen that um

that the laws of physics are supposed to prevent for instance you know

when you when you expand your awareness through expanding your self identity and you start

tapping into that infinity of awareness and possibility beyond the matrix the matrix itself by

its very nature is a field of limited possibility so while we're interacting only with the the matrix

we are interacting with a sense of limited possibility thus we appear to have limited

potential to do things but once you tap into that uh reality that literally infinite

possibility infinite potential that beyond the matrix uh field then the only

limit you have on what you can manifest is what you can imagine manifest manifesting and on

that subject of imagination there was a fantastic um comedian called Bill Hicks um uh who comes

from the southern states of america originally he died i think he was the age of 33 um in the 1990s far

too early because he took a lot of substances right and as a result of that he had experiences he

realized that what an illusion this was and he said this this this this wonderful quote that he used

to say at the end um of his um of his shows uh fucking remember it now he used to say um life is

like a ride in an amusement park and when you go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful

our minds are the ride goes up and down round and round it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly

colored and it's very loud and it's fun for a while but some have been on the ride for a long time

and they're big into question is this real or is this just the ride on others i remember that

they come back to us and they say hey don't be afraid ever because this is just a ride

and we kill those people shut him up i've got a lot of invested in this ride shut him up

look at my furrow's a worry and my big bank account this has to be real it's just a ride

but we always kill those good guys to try to tell us that and let the demons run a muck

but it doesn't matter because it's just a ride and we can change it anytime we want

no job no savings of money just a choice right now between fear and love and another great line he

said he talked about we are the imagination of ourselves and if i could in capture capture encapsulate

the the the conspiracy in one line it is to hijack humanity's imagination of itself

because if you can hijack our imagination of ourselves our perception of self you hijack our

interaction with the field and what we manifest so little me manifests a life of little me not

because you are little me you are all that is has been and ever can be having a brief human experience

but your perception of little me will give you a little me experience in life

and that's what they want they want that they want us in a limited state of awareness a limited

state of imagination and thus a limited state of experiential manifestation it seems like it's

some type of because if i was a programmer making a video game i would want the video game i would

you know you you'd stress test it you would have to to make it optimal you would have to introduce

viruses you would have to introduce chaos introduce variables that are out of your control because

the end user who's going to be playing it wants to have a seamless experience and so in order to

get there it's really valuable to introduce chaos and have these things happen do you think that

that might be why we're being introduced with you know chaotic events and and why this is so hard

and so difficult and full of all of these negative things i couldn't that just be a way of

stress testing reality for whatever's next like is is that not a possibility that because we do

learn from trials you know it's we don't learn when everything goes according to plan and when we

have all the possibilities of manifestation at our fingertips we learn from when we don't and

and you know we have to walk through the mud arduously to to get something and that's where we feel

feel fulfilled and and so isn't the isn't the idea that not necessarily the lessons but that

this is hard on purpose for a good reason and not just for about is that a possibility that you

entertain well that that's what the whole reincarnation cycle is supposed to be about i don't

buy that at all and you know we are an expression of all that is has been an ever can be

and so if you if you hold your attention and self identity in a myopia of self identity like i'm

a human or i'm just a soul and i've learned lessons then it seems a certain way you think oh yeah

I've got I've got to experience these things to to evolve that that's the whole story of the world

samsara but if you if you expand your awareness deeper and deeper into the infinite field to the

point where you become what i call infinite awareness in awareness of itself you have the

awareness that you are all awareness so i'm with you i'm right i'm with you there yeah what is

but i mean for for the entities that are controlling it right what is that so like what why are they

doing it is what i'm saying is like does is loose like food to them or always yeah or is it

something like they're just sort of stress testing this reality in order for some other you know

agenda that they might have for this reality like what is the purpose of them creating

these negative interactions or feeding off like how do they feed off is it is actual food

or is it energy it's literally energy you know um on that on that subject in in the early

1990s long time ago now when i was putting together this global cult that is now breaking news

i realized that people i was looking at and investigating were taking part

both in and this is the early 1990s in satanic ritual including human sacrifice ritual often

children and um what um we um we now call pedophilia what we call it then but pedophilia so it's

the the whole foundation of this um cult in the human realm is pedophilia and satanism and so

the question i had was obviously what okay what why the loose thing would come and explain it

but i did then look at the ancients um and how they were sacrificing um people to the gods

for um a gift to the gods and then you realize that you know we talk about pantheons of gods so you

have the Greek pantheon and the uh the Egyptian pantheon and the Roman pantheon but what you find

is that all these different ancient societies are what i'd pantheons of gods i mean in Hinduism

they still do is thousands of them um and so what i kind of realized was these gods that they

were doing the sacrifices to in what we call the ancient world were the same gods same entities

astral entities that they are they're doing now these but the difference is it was acceptable then

to do it openly and now it's not so it's done in secret and i've talked to satanists all over the

world and uh who some of which have um experienced some of these major bloody rituals in low

voling these elite people and they tell the same story of um how these uh these people the satanists

are interacting with this astral dimension and they are conducting the ritual to generate

maximum terror in the victim because the terror is a very powerful low vibrational energy

and uh you know if i look at you now and you're in an emotional state i can see from your facial

expressions in your body language you're in an emotional state but i can't see the energy coming

off you i'm saying that's got it's going into the astral right they can see it they so these

entities are overseeing these these rituals and they're feeding off that energy coming off the

victim this is the gift to the gods that the ancients talked about and the the the body has this

response to terror that puts an adrenaline in the blood and that's adrenochrome these people

drink and you know these satanists or former satanists have told me you know when they drink this

this adrenochrome it's like it's like it's like it's a drug it's like an elixir it gives them a

high you know and um these the all these uh stories about what goes on in Washington with adrenochrome

and why have you uh both parties so you think luci is is these sort of interdimensional beings version

of adrenochrome it is how they get high yeah well yeah but it's also a form of sustenance

right so that's here keeps the lights on yeah so if you um if you're getting empowerment

mm-hmm from this well i mean think of the first world war second world war what's going on in

Iran as we speak what's gone on since october the seventh in in in gaza look at all the suffering

look at all the fear or look at all the anxiety and and depression that the encompassed

compasses the planet and uh you see the amount of this energy that there is to to empower them

and then they kind of recycle that power back in in a form of control and uh so um the more that

we fall into these low vibrational states and if you're in Iran now you're going to fall into a

low vibrational state right the the the the more you we're empowering them but we don't have to

and there's a counter to that the counter that you propose is is just like quite the opposite

is spread empathy and yeah sort of expand your awareness and also to um or just to not come back

to not um not just talk about um being expanded awareness and self identifying conceptually as

expanded awareness but to live it to not identify with being human to to to to know that what

we call human is an experience it's not you and what that tends to do certainly happen to me

and happen to people as we've been through it as well is you take um a step back and you start

to observe the world rather than getting pulled into the drama because all the time

what's happening is our attention energy flows where attention goes our attention is being

hijacked and it's being hijacked by drama look at this always in that terrible oh my god oh what

about that oh my god all the time Trump is a drama queen extraordinaire you turn on the internet

what's the silly sod done today so it's all drama all surrounding Trump is drama perfect uh um

frontman for them um but but when you um you start to self not just self identify but live the

fact that you are consciousness not the human that's the vehicle accident experience you are the

consciousness having the experience you you start to observe and you take because the first

thing that happens when you get into a emotional state you should stop thinking straight but if

if you just become the observer doesn't mean you don't care no no and it doesn't mean you're not

taking it all in you're taking it in better than ever before because the drama's not taking away

your ability to think straight but you're observing it you're taking in the information but you

not getting pulled in emotionally hmm you're not getting pulled in emotionally in the same way so

you're not uh being driven by you're not being loose driven by the drama you you're observing it

and it it you you find an equilibrium even in the face of madness that you didn't have before

and that that's uh that's it i tell you that's a great place to be do you um like i've had

half a dozen out of body experiences in the last few years uh through meditation yeah um where

i'll be honest as a magician i didn't really believe in these things prior to having them myself i

i've loosened dreamed before and i thought that's what people might be experiencing

until i had it happen and i knew it was much much different uh objectively different than a

loosened dream um and it kind of changed my perception of what reality was you know seeing

myself lying there and and kind of you know being very terrified at what i was experiencing um

it's since threw me down this path of meditation what where i meditate daily and i

i try to keep up with it is have you ever had some type of experience some type of out of body

experience or uh event that would have sort of rocked your world in that same way

well the a couple of things um first of all just very quickly because you'd mentioned it um

what i've just described is like having a lucid dream you know you know when you you have a dream

and you are in the dream you you get emotional and and your your mind is responding to the dream

but you know you have these other dreams where you're in a dream but you know it's a dream

now your emotions are not the same because you're observing the dream because you know it's a dream

and that's basically what i'm talking about you're observing this reality you know it's a dream

um and therefore it doesn't pull you in like if you believe the dream is real but anyway um well in

i was writing a book um in uh uh 2002 about 9-11 it was called um

um Alice in Wonderland in the World Trade Center disaster and i i i said to my you know my friends um

if if i'm going to go on on beyond this i i've got to somehow get out there and not get out

there in some dream but get out there in in some way that i i'm consciously aware that uh

where i am and just after that i got an invitation to go to the rainforest in Brazil to take

Ayahuasca and i could have taken it four times i took it twice first night was um was

interesting enough about two hours i was in this other state of awareness uh but you know

kind of a mild other state of awareness in the the next night um that took more and for five hours

this voice took a female form was explaining to me about the nature of reality

uh was extraordinary and after it i had recall of it and i came back to Britain and started looking

a you know various scientific disciplines to um to see if it kind of kind of matched up

and i realized that these different scientists at difference it's that only freaking talk to

each other i've already sussed a lot of it but they don't talk to each other this has got a bit

that's got a bit that's got a bit and that's stuff um and the other thing that uh so so in that

five hours i i basically um was given chatroom verse on the illusory nature of this reality

was this a familiar voice um not really but it was very powerful was it stern no no it's very loving

very um very pleasant i mean it opened up it said um um we're going to take you

to where you come from so you can better understand where you are that was the opening line

and it took me to this uh well it sort of opened up this extraordinary

sight of if if i can describe something as black but brilliant it was brilliant blackness it was

extraordinary and it was it this this voice was saying this is the infinite it's this is basically

all possibility right it's that level which i now call infinite awareness and awareness of itself

and um that's where you come from and that's where you'll return to and uh

uh then it started explaining how um we we get trapped in this perceptual trap of believing we're not

that when we are it was confirming what you had already yeah we would already thought we already

the conclusion you'd already come to yeah well there was a lot there was a lot more in that five

hours than i concluded up to that point there was uh and anyway the other thing is that whenever

i've tried to meditate i've fallen asleep right that's okay but what happened immediately

after this kicked off in 1990 um when i went through some extraordinary experiences um of a paranormal

nature is that i would then start having still have them now absolutely coma sleeps um often in

the middle of the day actually not at not at night i do have coma sleeps at night but but the most

powerful ones for some reason of during the day um i'll just be come overwhelmed by tiredness

out of nowhere and i have to lie down and and maybe maybe it'll be an hour i'll be asleep but

when i wake up it can be half an hour before i fully wake up that's how deep it is i'll tell you

a funny story i was in a hotel um well no i'm not relatively recently maybe maybe two years ago

and and i'm in a coma sleep right and the fire alarm went off the fire alarm went off

and and and there's somebody with me who said it was unbelievable because it was so fricking

loud this fire alarm and everyone's running rushing to move and get downstairs and you don't move

you're totally uh like gone and what what happened eventually is the fire alarm stopped

and uh it was a false alarm but i slept all the way through it and i didn't wake up to the next

morning right um so this this is how deep these things are the point i'm saying this

relationship question is that when i wake up i know something you think it's like a download

yeah it happens it's like i know something i don't know at that point what i know

sure i know i know something and then it just filters through to the conscious mind and you

with insights and yeah what have you you know that's interesting because i've always said that

too about meditation which is you know for people who again this is not something i was into

prior to and i always thought i was bad at it because i'd also fall asleep which i learned to

just kind of embrace if i fall asleep i fall asleep it's yeah yeah um but what i found was really

interesting is that i can go into a room that is absent of any stimulant completely dark no phones

no books no light and i come out of that room knowing more than i did when i walked in yeah yeah

you tell me where that comes from well i think what happens is you um your consciousness expands

and it taps in to those levels that are beyond the matrix and therefore you're tapping into a

an awareness that is overwhelmingly not available here and and the idea is that from that

from that understanding through that connection you then communicate it in in in in this reality

that's been going on now since 1990 with me i've had some extraordinary coma sleeves

that like i say it can take half an hour to wake up but you you know you you know you

open your eyes and you you realize you're waking up but it's another half an hour before you can

actually get up and you feel like during those times that's when you're having some type of

download yeah it just feel like a download yeah you think your memory is being purposely wiped

during that time like maybe you did have a very vivid sort of experience that uh yeah quite

yeah quite possible i mean i do i i i i have a vivid dreams but the the um the most powerful

the most powerful exchange of information i feel is is in these coma sleeves definitely

one thing that i did want to get back to however it was some of these cases

because i find them really fascinating as much as i'm fascinated by the otherworldly sort of

you know transcendental reality and and this this illusory sort of dimension that we're a part of

and i i think i'm you know i'm there i think it's really interesting i'm also equally as fascinated

with like encounters with physical beings i think it's just the the storyteller in me is it's

just really attracted to this uh can you tell me of some some of these stories that were given to

you or maybe even personal encounters that put you a little bit more over the edge with oh this

is an actual physical phenomenon we're dealing with in terms of these beings uh sort of interacting

with people do you have any story that comes to mind well i mean the the thing that's um really

uh got me on the road of um there is no physical in terms of these entities was um was shape shifting

um i like i say i was in 1996 i went to america i've been to america before but this was the first time

on to to these subjects and um i um i was traveling around talking to nobody but

i was meeting people and it like i say in in fifteen days i met twelve different people

that told me about the shape shifting phenomena and then it started because the way i work

is when something comes to me that is like new or far out i um unless my previous research has

shown me that actually it's not it's nonsense i'll i'll i won't dismiss it i'll put it on the back

burner as i say and i'll just let it um simmer away and i'll see if anything else comes what it did

over and over again i've talked to so many people over the years who've had this shape shifting

experience and again you you come back to normal normal perception and that's impossible you can't

go from a physical um human to a physical non-human and and you know um no one agrees with that

more than me you can't but the point is it's not physical so if if i'm looking at you

um because these these entities they seem to have a dual information field hybrids

they have a human field and they have a non-human field and

absolutely for obvious reasons within our reality it's the human field that is presented at the world

so if if you if you're a hybrid and you've got a non-human field when i look at you i am decoding your

human field um so if um you you are as i am a field of information and i am decoding that

field like Wi-Fi in a computer into a visual and apparently physical but really holographic

reality and if that non-human field stays in the background then that's what i see

but there are there are times certainly this has been explained to me so many times in the rituals

in the in the satanic rituals where they go fricking crazy and so on um then there there is this shift

and um it's been explained to me not least by um people have experienced it how um they've seen people

including members of the British Royal family by the way um shift from a human into a non-human

form like a reptilian form in the ritual especially when all the the the the blood and and

gaw is is going on it's like they that that is that that generates this shift and and also

when um people are in a high emotional state there can be a there can be a shift i tell you a story um

that was told to me by um it was in Canada actually where was i speaking um

um vankuva uh and i did this talk and i was introduced the the whole reptilian stuff and stuff and

and the the guy organized it said i i want you to talk to this lady afterwards because

she's got an interesting story and she was like a business woman a power dressing business woman

who you know ran a company and everything and she told me of a story where she um had this

boyfriend and she said he was nice enough but he had a dark side and he knew he had a dark side

he said uh she said and what happened was um they came into the bedroom one night to have sex like

and she said your book the biggest secret which came out in 1997 was on the shelf next to the bed

and he saw it and he went eight eight shit basically uh about how ridiculous it was that she was

reading crap like that right so anyway they start having sex and she's telling me this story and she's

shaking actually visibly shaking what she's telling me the story and she said she had a uh

she put a hand on on on these back he's lower back while he's kind of on top of my life

and she said i felt me hand push away she said i looked over this shoulder he said and he

he he sprouted a fricking tail right so she screamed through him off the bed and he's a reptilian

now but then it quickly just reverted to human and she threw him out of the house

and stories like that have been told to me or all over the world

and what's what they what they're doing is when when the the the non-human field becomes the dominant one

you start reading that you start decoding that so to the observer someone has gone from a

a solid human body to a solid non-human body that's not what's happened it's all going on in

the decoding systems of the observer and thus you're not shifting from solid to solid you're

shifting from energetic field to energetic field which we are decoding into the appearance of a

solid field becoming a solid field have you ever met someone who you suspected to be non-human

or a few times really yeah a few times it's um i it's just my view i think there there are

well i've the major players in this global cult i say their hybrids the royal families i say

are hybrids and you know when they they talk about

um

royalty interbreeding with itself an aristocracy breeding into breeding with itself

why is it that royal bloodlines have always been perceived as special why have they

been perceived as as having a right to rule the divine right to rule um i think it's because

they are um human reptilian hybrids or human non-human hybrids anyway and i think the

British royal family are i've talked to enough people um who've had interactions with them

to um convince me that's absolutely the case the Dutch royal family i mean cruel deer don't start

me um so um and and what happened eventually is that um humanity reached a state of maturity where

it started to reject rule by human uh sorry royal dictat and royal inheritance and then they

brought in politics and politics is just another way for people to give their power away to the

control system um this you know you vote for this party you vote for that party you vote for that

party you vote for that party and so the wheel of um or the eddie goes on going around um basically

if we united put it down the fault lines of divide and rule and realize that we have a common threat

and we need to come together well it will be over because there's not enough of them compare with

with totally population but we don't do that because we're divided and ruled and

not least politically and through religion and and and why have you and so you have a um

you have this situation where um the few rule um now its politicians on behalf of those

deep in the shadows but for a long time still in this country of course and in your country too

Canada you you have this royal family where they incessantly interbreed with each other

and when and when the um the the royalty started to fade because people rejected it and

and the these bloodlines these hybrids went into politics and they went into the dark suit

professions of of finance and what have you and all these um eastern what they call them eastern

seaboard families um who marry not for love often but for genetics and they have their

love on the side just like um now King Charles um married princess Diana for genetics

but had um the the the lady now the queen um going on um all along the at the same time because

that's that's where he wanted to be not with Diana and fully enough um it was um when would it be

1997 um 97 98 after Diana died in the Paris tunnel the pont down the tunnel in Paris um

I was invited to the house of lords in in in in London houses of parliament to um to speak with

a few people very few people handful of people lords and like you know who were kind of more open

and there was a lady there and she started talking about Diana and Diana's um accident shall we

say wasn't and afterwards I said to her how do you know all that she said well my friend was

Diana's best friend for nine years right she said I think she'll talk to you so um maybe a week

later we met I've still got the conversation on a real to real audio tape somewhere

and um by this time I'd had that experience of the the 15 days and the 12 people that told me

in different parts of America about this their shape shifting experience and anyway and one

of other things that happened as well but I hadn't told her I said nothing about I'd not

produced a book about it or anything at the time I and said a word to this lady and uh she

starts talking uh she was her best friend for nine years or one of her best friends and she was

uh like an alternative healer she used to work at something called the whole clinic um new regions

park in London Diana used to go to her right and actually she told me one one thing that um what

what this lady called friendly people at MI5 used to leave messages at her clinic to be given to

Diana when she came all very sort of tissues and one of the messages was that um that she was um

they were planning to kill her in a car accident nowhere yeah there was yep absolutely

and her her butler later it was named borough his name was uh then said that um she told him the

same right and but I got it from this this lady so um anyway where she's talking and

well you know she told me about Jimmy Savile the mega pedophile who was in the inner circle of the

British Royal family and um he was put in their well-known um by a guy called Lord Mt. Baton who

was a known pedophile a mentor to Prince Philip and Prince Charles and Jimmy Savile

sees why he was allowed to do what he did all those decades was a procurer of children for the

Richard famous and here he is in the bosom of the British Royal family just extraordinary stuff

anyway um she's chatting away and going on and stuff and and uh then she told me that the Diana

used to uh call the the used to call the British Royal family um the lizards and the reptiles

uh she used to say they're not human right and so I played the idiot because I'd all this stuff

I'd started coming across all this stuff I played the idiot I said what do you mean reptiles

what are you talking about and she said you know the Royal family are are hybrids they're part

unit part reptilian right and she told me the story and um she said it's interesting she said

it even even a lot a lot of the people a lot of the followers you know even quite close to them

have no idea who they are right and um I've come across other people because what I'm doing all

the time is trying to cross reference what one person's told me to other people until

and um I've come across people who've been at rituals with the Royal family and how they've

shapeshifted and um I quote in the in um the biggest secret um how this lady this nine-year

friend of Diana describes um the royals uh the queen um and um the queen mother who was

supposed to be the nation's grandmother who were to lovely lady oh god she was she she gave

evil a bad name that woman um she described what they looked like in them in their shapeshifted

state and they're reptilian state and I've come across other people have taken part in their rituals and um

described the same thing uh how um how they watched the queen uh in the adrenal chrome stage go

absolutely frickin wild start ripping at the flesh of the the sacrifice um so you know and again

a different parts of the world I've talked to other people who've taken part in these rituals and

it's the same kind of story um and what they're doing in the rituals is interacting with this other

dimensional force this this this pantheon of gods if you like just as the ancients were

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think some of that's happening with what we're seeing in the Epstein files and yeah definitely

is that an extension of that or is that yeah directly yeah definitely i'm a million behavior

the thing about the Epstein files i used i in in in in my books uh i wrote a book called

the perception deception which includes massive research about the very detailed research

about the raw family and Jimmy Savile and all this stuff and i described Savile as a gateway to

the cesspit in the sense that you know this stuff then i that this satanism and pedophilia this

all are also about energy vampiring that is um is the foundation it's like the cement that holds

this global cult together um but it's done in enormous secrecy for obvious reasons and it's

fiercely compartmentalized so most people in the secret societies have no idea this is happening

but every now and again there's examples that come to light that are kind of gateways

to the cesspit if you go deeper and through it uh you enter the the whole story and Jimmy Savile

was a very much a gateway to the cesspit but the Epstein thing is too um you know people say

that the Epstein network was the biggest pedophile network um in the world no it wasn't no it wasn't

it was one aspect of the global web that actually has come to light just like the sabral thing did

and uh so um they will have been into all that stuff um just as the

sabral and the raw family were uh and uh but what what the Epstein files have done

those we've seen so far anyway and Trump's in this to up to his neck um is

take away some of the the layers of collective programming that would normally go

what no chance that's not happening but because they're of the nature of the

files and the emails and the interactions it's taken away a lot of that resistance

so more and more people are looking at it and going well actually it does look like it's real

you know and going yeah yeah David was right yeah well yeah that's well that's that's been

that's been a good thing in the sense that they will then look at other stuff that I'm saying and

go well maybe that's not as crazy either you know and you and you start because you know

I'm not um someone who wants to be a leader who wants to be someone you know standing there saying

you know this is what we must do and you must follow me I'm not interested in that crap

I'm just interested in putting out information that people wouldn't normally get

and saying you make of it what you will what's happened is events in the world have got people to

look at it the information in another light because it's so confirmatory of what I was saying

long ago and they were dismissing and and and ridiculing me for so um it's very interesting times

and about where it goes but we are in a we are in a bit of a race because you know

I said about Trump when he was running in the election campaign I got so much shit from

MAGA and MAGA supporters and Trump supporters for saying look he's a con man he's a fraud he's

having you on it's not going to be like that he's telling what you want to hear one of the things I

said was a um he's he's not going to be what you think he is and two while he's trashing

the present system he's going to be facilitating the rapid expansion of the AI digital control system

so what you have with Trump from the start is um he's surrounded by the AI oligarchs by musk by

Peter Teal by Mark Andreessen by David Sacks by Sam Altman by Larry Ellison all these people

I mean his vice president is pretty much friends with all these people. Oh yeah well I mean

Peter Teal of Palantir has funded JD Vance's basically entire career and and you know it was

interesting when in the in the run up to the Republican convention that nominated Trump to run

in the election um what 2024 there was a series of people that were mentioned in the papers for

his probably vice presidential running mate and soon as I saw the word JD Vance I said well it's

going to be him it's going to be him he's Teal's Teal's apologise he's going to be him so he's come

in and he's doing two things Trump and he's being totally misread by what's left of MAGA they are

looking first of all at um they're saying he's trashing the globalists he's bringing the system

down well yes he is but not for reasons you think the the um the cult has this process of what I

call creative destruction it's um I also call it the totalitarian tiptoe where you started A and

you know you're going to Z but you know if you're going too big a leaps then people might look up

and say what's going on so you go as fast as you can but not too fast that you alert too many

people um and so you go in a sequence you'll create a system and then when it served you in that

period you'll trash it and you'll create another system and and each um system in the sequence gets

more and more extreme so if you pick it up at the start of the 20th century um you had a certain

world and it was a cult world but it was it was there were so many more points of decision-making

you then have the First World War the end of the First World War the world is completely different

you had the the Versailles Peace Conference and they they basically carved up the world you then

followed that with um the great depression and so the economic system was being trashed immediately

at the edge of the Second World War and the status quo again was trashed during the First Second World

War and then you at the end of the Second World War you had all these um global bodies you at the

United Nations formed uh you had um the Bretton Woods Agreement the IMF the World Bank etc etc

also the CIA and yes exactly you know the the the the CIA as we know it appeared um after the

Second World War and and uh so the the the the the the world I was born in 1952

at what seven years after the war and pretty much from the day I was born to relatively recently

you've had a certain system in place now where they want to go is uh a completely different um

ultimately control system based on artificial intelligence and and the digital system

and if you have a status quo and it's not moving you can't replace it with anything so you have

to trash the status quo that's what they did with the two wars and the great depression you have to

trash the status quo so the new system can replace it and this is why Trump has been trashing the

old system with wars and the tariffs and or mayhem uh and he's going to go on doing it until

perhaps um teal to um JD events takes over and then um around him at the very same time that he's

trashing the old system is this AI oligarch um circle of wagons and if you remember you know

I was I was saying that you know when he comes in this AI is going to start flying

and it was two days after his inauguration that that Larry Ellison uh was wheeled out

and Sam Altman to announce this up to five hundred billion dollar um stargate project for um

funny name the the the AI data centers etc and it's gone on ever since now Trump's really

pushing the 6g which is a massive turning point in all this it's a pivotal moment 6g um 5g we

already have of course um and the idea is that they create a hive mind basically they have um

a they're creating a technologically generated uh global electromagnetic field

through the towers yes in all the cities and towns but crucially because you can't

have a global field without it low orbit satellites 11,000 I think uh space x are up there now and

it's um it's like 50,000 Jeff Bezos is um is is is is coming along uh behind as well

and uh the idea is that you create a technologically generated electromagnetic field through

which the frequencies can be sent to be picked up by the human mind to um to to basically create

essentially dictated hive mind this is this is what the AI human fusion is really all about

and um in in in my latest book the road map I quote a a Chinese whistleblower who this is some

years ago now that he said this where he's saying that in China they have already connected

technological electromagnetic fields carrying information with the human electromagnetic field

that has made the the humans a perception dictated by the by the technological field so they

they've basically behaved the way the field told them to behave because of this connection

but how much more powerful if you have a receiver in the body to receive the frequencies

and that's what I'd say the covid fake vaccine was um and is it's um I've been in touch um over the

last few years with scientists and uh doctors real ones who have been um following the self-replicating

technology in the blood of people um who've been vaccinated although you know many people

haven't now uh because it's coming from other sources and they've seen under the electron

microscopes and stuff these self-replicating systems you know the there are videos where you can

see them and it includes something called graphene oxide graphene oxide is a relatively new substance

graphene that um has two um major traits in relation to what I'm talking about one is it's a

superconductor of electricity and if it gets in the brain it changes the way the brain processes

information and it also amplifies the electromagnetic field so if you come into contact with

electromagnetic field the effect will be amplified if you've got graphene in the body

and the idea is that they create this um technological hive mind um which can be centrally

dictated whereby um they can tell you what to think and you know you've got people like Ray Kurzweil

at um Google the Google futurist as they call him who is a big fan of him is is Bill Gates at

somebody is and uh he's um he's written several books I've got some at home where he's one of the

pneumo pneumo no people about AI and where it's going and he said little while ago now some years

ago that by 2030 humans will be connected to AI via the cloud uh the cloud is this electromagnetic

field etc uh and once that connection is made um AI will do more and more of human thinking these

are his words until human thinking as we know it is negligible or deleted basically and that's

where it's going and and that's why um if you look at it there's so many diversions because

at the moment you've got the war in Iran and you you've had all these drama diversions of Trump

you're first uh yeah oh yeah that too that because that's good this is going to be a big year for

for that uh 2026 with the the Spielberg film coming out in June disclosure day

but all these diversions including you know to be fair you know the the shooting of Charlie Kerg

it's taken a lot of attention away um into in the other directions and all the time this

incessant expansion of AI that goes on and the thing is this global cult um does not have borders

it does not have countries um it's borderless it works globally and so um what they've done this

is a real kind of psychological ruse and you're hearing it more and more from the Trump administration

um America has to win the race to be that dominant country in AI because look at China

China we've got to beat the Chinese and they they turn they turned it into a sporting event

you know oh you know we've got kind of regulation no because we've got to beat China

the DOE even tweeted about it um the DOE tweeted uh the the the race to AI is going to be the

next Manhattan project yeah from the Department of Energy which I think is a terrifying that they

would tweet that out and be you don't talk about it if it's like the Manhattan Project which is

no but kind of silly the other thing is um that there is a fantastic number of research papers

that have been put together by an amalgamation of the Chinese and America

so they're not in a race it's global cult so just as America is uh oh we've got to win the race

against the Chinese Chinese saying we've got to win the race against the Americans but actually

it's a global agenda and and what is happening in China and America and Europe to the same

Britain uh Russia just the same is that a global um AI control system is being put into place

and that that's what's happening and and the more that people's attention could be

diverted into whatever drama they come up with next the the more they'll be left on

challenge to complete the job if you had one message to to the people in the shadows

the people running things the people behind the people what would you say to them if you had a

direct line what would what one message would you like to impart with them well I'm not sure

we're making a difference because um because they're absolutely mad they're bonkers so what would

you say if they're brilliant at manipulating human perception but they're basically bonkers

because they're an expression of this bonkers consciousness the the what I would say is um

basically how how how long do you do you do you think this is going to go on I mean this is going

to be for eternity I mean what what are you doing you know you're beyond here is this infinity

of um all possibility to explore these this this infinity of other realities and what have you

of immensely various kinds and you're stuck in this one manipulating human energy for your own

survival and um I mean what is the point of just doing this for the rest of eternity I mean you know

wait the hell up and and see that no one's more imprisoned in this matrix than you you know

we can we can choose to awaken and get out of it you can't unless you wake up and um my god

there's a long way to go before that's going to happen David I thank you so much thank you

I really appreciate it been a pleasure thank you thank you

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