BREAKING: Massive Blow To Censorship In Missouri V. Biden Ruling - LIVE Exclusive With Health Researcher Nicholas Hulscher

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going to keep an eye on all of the chats and bring some of the best comments and questions. We've

got a lot to get to today. I'm so thrilled. I have been wanting to interview Nicholas Hulture

for almost a year. And the only thing holding me back was just the fact that I'm so busy,

he's so busy. And remembering to make contact and getting the interview set up, I do that all

myself. And it was just one of those things. I'm so glad we were finally able to connect.

Nicholas Hulture has been doing some amazing work in broad reporting on medical freedom in general,

the legalities of medical freedom, the news about medical freedom. And then also mechanisms of

harm relating to COVID-19 shots, sickness in America and abroad, but also healing as well. So

he is one of the most researched voices out there. He has a great resume, very young guy. And of

course, he's working with one of our faves, Dr. Peter McCullough and McCullough Foundation. And so

we have a great interview with Nick Hulcher. He's going to be in about 10 minutes right here on

the SJ Show. We're going to have about 40 minutes with Nicholas. Big headline today, massive,

massive ruling. In terms of the case, Missouri V Biden, if you remember, Dr. Aaron Carriotti,

has been on the Shannon Joy Show many times. He had a case against government censorship regarding

medical freedom and speech about medicine and science. They had a great ruling. This is from

quote from Nicholas Hulcher. This is a historic win for free speech. And what we're looking at is a

consent degree in Missouri V Biden. It now bars the CDC, CISA, and the US Surgeon General from

coercing social media platforms to suppress protected speech for at least the next decade.

So there's a little caveat there, which we'll ask Nicholas about. But nonetheless, this is a

huge ruling. We also have a landmark bill, a piece of legislation coming out of Congress that we're

going to ask Nicholas about relating liability protection for pharmaceutical corporations. This is

one that we are going to watch. We're also going to talk about some pretty nasty judge rulings

ripping away the discussion point at the ASIP meeting about vaccine injury in general. We also

have a judge ruling against some of the revisions to the childhood vaccine schedule that were put in

place by Bobby Kennedy Jr.'s HHS and another judge's ruling that is taking apart any protections

being put in place for children protecting them against gender affirming care. So there are some

there's some good news and some bad news. We're going to look at all of that with Nicholas Hulcher

and also even more importantly, what is making us sick today in the United States of America and

abroad? And what is healing? We're going to go deep into Ivermectin Bendizal and Mem Bendizal,

also hydroxychloroquine as mechanisms of healing for all sorts of reactions and adverse events,

adverse effects from the COVID shots and even in treating cancers, which is something that we all

went into great detail over the weekend with Dr. or I'm sorry with William Macus in his amazing

presentation at our summit for truth and wellness. So we're going to be asking Nicholas about

all of that in just about seven minutes after that interview. We have a very special interview.

I pre-recorded this week with a new guest on the Shannon Joy Show. His name is Dr. Alejandro Diaz

and very concerning news about a resurgence of tuberculosis in the United States of America

and abroad. And much of it has to do with the degraded immune health as millions, billions of people

took COVID shots. One of the greatest negative impacts of those shots have been a generally

degraded immune system. This is now making people more vulnerable to some of the nastiest viruses

out there. We're going to talk about that with Dr. Alejandro Diaz in a pre-recorded interview.

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shiftgold and PCM and associates, Dom Palano. So without further ado, I want to bring in our

very special guest. Man, Nicholas Holcher, I have been wanting to interview you for such a long time.

I think that it's unbelievable. It's taken so long for us to become connected. You are doing

such important work at such a young age. I'm so impressed by you in so many ways. Welcome to

the Shannon Joy Show for the first time. I am absolutely sure that it will not be the last time.

How are you doing today? Oh, thanks for having me. I'm very happy to be on your show. I'm a big fan.

Oh gosh, Nicholas, let me just give everyone your bio first. And then we're going to start big

picture and then we're going to whittle everything down and this very important conversation.

Nicholas Holcher is an epidemiologist and a McCullough Foundation fellow. So he graduated from

the University of Michigan School of Public Health where he earned his Masters in Public Health.

It's an MPH. It's a degree with a specialization in epidemiology in April of 2024.

He then, after graduating, linked up with one of our favorites, Dr. Peter McCullough,

working with him and the McCullough Foundation as a researcher and a publisher of some of the most

important scientific and medical research in the world. And he has already contributed in so

many ways. He's been the lead author in multiple papers, one is autopsy findings in cases of

fatal COVID-19 vaccine induced myocarditis and a systematic review of autopsy findings

in deaths after COVID-19 vaccination. Very important in terms of mechanisms of harm among others.

And he's just done phenomenal, phenomenal work. Nicholas, how did you get hooked up? You have a

great story about how you got hooked up with the McCullough Foundation and Dr. Peter McCullough

to begin with. You actually displayed courage at a very young age. People were telling you,

you're going to lose your career. You would never work in this industry if you took this path into

medical truth and actually publishing good research and scrutinizing the bad research.

Why don't we start with your story there? Because I want the audience to get to know you

and how you got started into all of this. Yeah, I'll begin at the University of Michigan.

Well, actually, before I went to University of Michigan for a master of public health and epidemiology,

I was already aware that something was very wrong with the public health system and vaccinations.

In fact, in eighth grade, I wrote a paper on the link between vaccines and autism.

So, yeah, so I've always had large suspicions. And then obviously, 2020 hit and I was like,

all right, something's wrong. This is pre-planned and it was an absolute travesty.

So, I wanted to make an actual difference. And so, I graduated from my undergrad

University, Oakland University. And then I went straight into epidemiology at University of Michigan.

And so, at that school, I needed an internship. And so, I emailed every single professor,

like probably 50 of them. Half of them didn't respond. And the other half said no.

One said yes, but it took about a month. So, while I was waiting for a yes, I said,

you know what, screw it. I'm going to email Dr. McCullough, you know, I was a huge fan of his,

and I thought maybe he would have some research I could do. And he did. He responded in five minutes.

Wow. Oh my gosh. That was a systematic review of autopsie findings and deaths

after COVID-19 vaccination. So, I was doing that research, looking at the deaths after the shots

at the center of University of Michigan. And I was warned by professors, you know, behind closed

doors. I would have no career if I continued to do that research with Dr. McCullough,

but I proceeded anyways. And I'm very glad I did. In fact, if I listened to them,

I'm pretty sure I would actually have no career. Wow. That's amazing. Such wisdom at such a young

age. You must have great parents. I mean, how did you, I mean, eighth grade, that's amazing.

You must have had some type of environment of freedom of thought and good old-fashioned common sense,

you know, surrounding you to be so aware at such a young age.

Yeah, I'll tell you, I definitely did have or still do have great parents for sure. Yeah,

they played a big role in kind of helping me navigate to the path that I've been on now. So,

you know, very thankful for them. But yeah, you know, I was always kind of scavenging the internet,

you know, as a kid high school and an undergrad on these, you know, so-called conspiracy sites.

Some of you may remember, you know, these weird forms, like once called like God-like

productions, you know, that's all we had back then. Right. So we went on the, I would go on those

forms and kind of read things that, you know, we're not being reported by any mainstream media

organization. So I, you know, begin to realize that something was very wrong in the world.

Right. Well, one of the most consistent themes of 2020 and beyond is that the conspiracy theory

very quickly becomes the conspiracy fact. And it has accelerated over the past few years.

We have a lot to get to today, Nicholas. I'd like to start with some of the legal battles that

are being fought and some of the recent developments, judges ruling on certain cases that are kind

of ripping away the very meager, meager wins that we have achieved at HHS, which does not surprise me.

But let's start with the good news. You reported, and this is linked in the show notes of the

Shannon Joy Show today on a major victory for against censorship and for medical freedom and truth

out of the Missouri, the Biden case. What are your thoughts on that? If you could give us the nuts

and bolts on that ruling and what it means for freedom of speech, but also freedom of speech

regarding public health in particular. Yes. Yes. This, this recent ruling on the Missouri

versus Biden landmark case is, it is a big win. It's actually a huge win. You know, we haven't

gotten many wins in recent weeks, months and years. But this is a win. This is a win. So basically,

this case was brought forth because it was confirmed and later confirmed through discovery that

the Biden administration, along with the CDC and a few other federal agencies, the US Surgeon

General's Office, they have actually, you know, threatened coerced, etc. social media companies,

X, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, you know, meta, they coerced them to censor free speech,

particularly during COVID and for the COVID vaccines, you know, alternative treatments.

So the federal agencies literally went in and said, listen, you guys got to take it down or,

you know, we're going to cut off funding, you know, we're going to do all sorts of bad things.

So this case, now it reached this end stage. It took a few years. Wow. And so the final

ruling is that now the federal government, CDC, Surgeon General, they are banned for at least

10 years to restrict or threaten social media companies to censor free speech. So, you know, now,

if another, you know, pandemic comes or another dangerous shot gets rolled out, the government will

not be allowed to coerce these companies to censor us anymore. So it's a big win.

That's extraordinary news. And interestingly enough, I see you, Mr.

Worthless, eater on the live chat on rumble. And his question, Nicholas, is Shannon. No YouTube

today, usually we live stream on every platform. And we typically live stream on YouTube every day.

But we don't live stream on YouTube when we are discussing public health or vaccines or

turbo cancers or any of those topics because we will get hit with censorship. They'll take down

the show and they'll ban me for two weeks. So despite the door opening in some areas over at

YouTube, they still are censoring. I wonder, Nicholas, if this ruling could potentially impact

that area of censorship? We hope it does. We hope it does because you're right. YouTube is still

very hostile towards people giving alternative viewpoints, particularly when it comes to

vaccines. And so, you know, it's still very worrisome. But hopefully now this case with this ruling,

you know, maybe they will start to completely reverse course on that and realize that, you know,

now they're in the minority. And you know, it's absolutely ridiculous to still be censoring at

this point in time. You know, and honestly, the other social media companies do appear to still

exert forms of censorship. And again, people raising concerns about vaccines. Well, not

obvious censorship, but algorithmic censorship, where they basically will just suppress your posts

and not let it reach a wide audience. Absolutely. I absolutely agree. That's great news. In

other news, another, and by the way, Nicholas writes and reports under focal points as part of

the McCullough Foundation. And he also is on Twitter as well. So please follow him on

sub-stack and follow him on Twitter to support all of his efforts. We'll get those handles up for

you in just a moment. You recently reported another very, I mean, I'm very, very interested in

following this case, a new piece of legislation that seeks to remove the liability protection

from vaccine manufacturers and pharmaceutical corporations. That was released. I think just

a few weeks ago, can you explain the nature of that bill and how important that will be

to beginning to establish here in this country a new era of medical freedom, basic medical freedom.

It comes with holding corporations responsible for the damages they cause when they inject humans.

And until that is that is situated and addressed, it's going to be very difficult to continue

to go for medical freedom because the billions will continue to roll into these final companies

and they can continue the censorship and the coercion and the lies and the deceit and all of the

things. So this liability protection is absolutely critical and it's built in the infrastructure of our

laws. Our federal laws, Nicholas, can you explain what this bill is seeks to do and what we can do to

help push its cause? Yes, yes. This bill is absolutely massive. But we have to remember, we have

two bills. Now, two recent bills were introduced that both target different aspects of vaccine liability

and they're both need to pass to actually protect public health because our children have not been

getting protected by these vaccine makers. So the first one is by Senator Rand Paul. It's the end

of vaccine carve out act. I believe representative Gosar is involved in that as well as many other

people. And what this bill would do is it would end the childhood vaccine liability shield through

the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act where they that act gave these vaccine makers

full liability protection for injuries that shots like the MMR vaccine and all the other vaccines

cause, you know, the pneumococcal shots and all these shots, you know, if they injure a child,

if they give them brain damage, autism, if they, you know, give them a Guillain-Barré syndrome or

seizures, they don't face any penalties. And so they don't have to roll out properly tested products

currently. And that's why since 1986, since they passed this act, we went from about, you know, like 12

doses now up to 72 doses by age 18. That's right. Yeah, they don't face any liability. So this

bill by Senator Rand Paul would strip that away. They wouldn't, they would be forced to finally

test their vaccines because right now, not one of the childhood vaccines currently recommended by

the CDC was licensed based on a double blind placebo controlled trial. Not one they tested against

another vaccine that also wasn't placebo tested. So it's all untested garbage. This has to

pass. But then the second bill is absolutely huge for the COVID shots. The second bill is called

the liable act introduced by representative chip Roy. The liable act let injured Americans be

legally empowered. Which is a very fitting name would strip away prep act liability

Let's go. Let's go with the emergency countermeasures. It would strip that away. And so basically what

that means is these mRNA injections, how they've injured millions of people, disabled millions,

and killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands in America alone. You know, all those injured people

would then be able to sue Pfizer and Moderna. They would go bankrupt. There's no way they would be

of the handle the title wave of lawsuits with that prep act liability shield stripped away. So

both of these bills have to pass. Now, if I'm not mistaken, the liable act introduced by chip Roy,

Tom Massey has signed on, I believe, as a co-sponsor. And also Rokana. Am I am I incorrect in that?

Is Rokana involved in one of these bills? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Okay. I'm not sure.

Okay. I need to look into that because I did see something. There was a report somewhere.

I remember my eyebrows went up because Rokana was in support. It might have been the liable act.

And if you guys, Annie, if you could maybe check on that quickly in production and see if that's

the case and the point being, we often get people who are like, that's never going to happen or

it's never going to pass or Democrats are never going to get on it. Rokana is a Democrat from

California. And he has worked very closely on certain pieces of legislation with Tom Massey,

particularly the legislation to release the the Epstein files. They've been a very powerful

bipartisan duo in terms of Epstein justice. And so I would love to see. I hope there are conversations

happening with Rokana and a certain segment of the Democrat party because if they could do it

with the Epstein files, you could really begin to see an opportunity for pieces of legislation

that are very basic common sense. All right. This is holding corporations, pharmaceutical corporations

liable for damages when their products may men kill. That is such a basic concept necklace,

right? It's so basic. And I think a lot of people could get behind this. Yes. It's very basic. We

need bipartisan support for this. There's no reason why people should not support protecting

innocent people from large corporations that operate like criminal enterprises, right? There

should be full bipartisan support. Anybody who doesn't support these bills is clearly either

captured or receiving money from these enterprises. Right. Right. Well, so there's the good news.

There is good news out there. Anything that you've seen, Nicholas, in terms of uptake of childhood

vaccines, adult vaccines, COVID shots in general, because that's always one of the areas where I find

great hope, even if things are moving slowly. I love seeing the polling. I love seeing the surveys

coming out of Americans saying, you know, 80 to 90% of them are not getting COVID shots anymore.

You're the numbers, guys. You're guy. You're the research guy. What have you seen that gives you

hope about the culture in general? People, normies, people who are not embedded in all this research,

but are kind of getting snippets of it and changing their perceptions and their habits as a result.

Are you seeing anything that gives you hope there? Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of hope. In fact,

we are the majority now. We are the majority. Yes. A recent res music survey came out a few months

ago. This is representative of American voters. It is credible. And they found 56% of Americans now

believe that the COVID shots have resulted in mass deaths and significant number of deaths.

Wow. Yeah. And so, and then we also see the vaccine uptake is tanking. At least with the COVID

shots, it has tanked years ago. It stays at about 15 to 20% of the population is still under mass

psychosis. It will be difficult to get them out of that as they destroy their health, unfortunately.

But yeah, it's the tide is turning. The tide really is turning. Now we need to see the legislation

passed to have actionable things happen. As recently, unfortunately, that rogue judge that

basically reversed all progress of the past year. Yeah. No, very good, very good stuff. Let's get

to the bad news now, because there's bad news too. So recently, we've had a couple judges. We've

had a very, very meager success within HHS. Unfortunately, Robert Malone actually just stepped down.

It was announced that Dr. Robert Malone has stepped down from his position at ASIP. And

you know, the COVID shots are still in the market. The vaccine injured are still being ignored

and gaslit. The childhood vaccine schedule was reduced from 90 shots to like 78 shots,

which was not good enough to begin with, but a judge just ripped that away,

ruling against somehow the ability to change the recommendations for the childhood schedule.

ASIP was set to conduct the very first of its kind, a Q&A or a meeting or a forum

that was addressing the vaccine injured, humans who have been debilitated by childhood vaccines,

adult vaccines, COVID vaccines in general. They were to open up that discussion through ASIP that

was supposed to happen this week or next week. And apparently, somehow a judge gets to say they

can't have a meeting. I don't really know how that works, but that was another ruling. And then

a third ruling by a judge. And you know, as a political analyst who has done this for 12 years

with the Republicans, big, big promises, meager, meager results, and then the meager results get

ripped away by judges. Rinse and repeat. So this is not new to me. In fact, I think the Republicans,

at least in the presidency, are glad about this because it allows them to continue on with their

agendas and then blame the judges for ripping them away. But that's just my political analysis on

this. But even in the area of protecting children from gender-affirming care, which is barbaric

and horrifying, even that was ripped away again by a judge. Those three in context, in context,

Nicholas, what are your thoughts on those rulings? And have I articulated them properly?

Or am I missing something here? Now, you have articulated that perfectly. Recent weeks,

basically, Maha and the new HHS administration has been destroyed on all progress of the past year

has literally been reversed by these radical judges that literally, you know, they don't have any

public health expertise, you know, they're not scientists or physicians, but yet they

they acted like they could just change everything back to how it was. And so we'll go through the first,

the first ruling was by Judge Brian Murphy. What he did was he ruled on a lawsuit filed by the

American Academy of Pediatrics, which wanted to stop all the changes to the vaccine schedules

and the judge ruled in favor of AAP, despite the fact that AAP is facing a federal rico lawsuit

for running a decades-long racketeering operation for vaccine safety fraud.

Oh, wow. Would you mind, would you mind just, I mean, tell me about that. That's fascinating.

Yes. Children's health defensive legal team did file a federal racketeering influence

and corrupt organization's ex Rico lawsuit against the American Academy of Pediatrics because

for the past many decades, all of the recommendations they've issued that, you know, that they've

issued to doctors and other organizations and even federal recommendations. They haven't been

based on actual safety data. We have to remember they started to recommend 72 doses by AAP.

There's not one study testing these in full combination. None looking at long-term neurodevelopmental

outcomes are chronic disease. And yet they said there was completely safe anyway. So they were

just lying. Wow. You know, pulling things out of thin air while at the same time, this is key

receiving money from the vaccine makers themselves to issue these recommendations. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Make this up. Okay. Now, where is that case? What what stage is that case in and in which court?

Do you know off hands? I know it's a lot. I don't know. I don't know exactly the court off hand. I

do know it was filed about a month or so ago. Okay. So, you know, it has not it has not progressed

as far as I'm aware yet. But, you know, we hope it ends up reaching a discovery phase where,

you know, we can see what this enterprise has been up to in recent decades. They don't want us

getting to discovery necklace. That would be a very, very bad thing, I think for them.

Sorry, I cut you off on the judges. So, continue on with the judges ripping away some of the

the meager gains that we'd made three HHS. I was just interested in that Rico case because

I'm going to be watching that one now for sure. Yes. Yes. So,

HHS in the past year has done, you know, multiple things in the ACIP committee. So, what they did was

they shrunkly recommended childhood vaccine schedule from about 80 doses to age 18 down to over

30 doses by age 18. And so, they reduced the number of vaccine types from 17 down to 11.

Just, just, you know, universal recommendations. So, they did that. And then ACIP, you know, since last

summer, they have, and obviously RFK fired all the old ACIP members because they were captured

by pharmaceutical interests and replaced them with a new panel. And this new panel did stop

universal recommendations for newborn infants getting hepatitis B shots and as well as a few

other things. And so, all of that happened. And then this federal judge Brian Murphy comes in

and strikes it all down. He reversed the vaccine schedule back to 72 doses by age 18. Yeah.

One guy. Yeah. One guy. One guy just decides that's crazy. He did that. And then he also

disbanded the ACIP committee. And so now it's been thrown into chaos. And, you know, it's

non-functional now. They can't even meet and reversed all of the votes that they held in the

past year. So that means hepatitis B shot recommendations for literal newborn infants that's

now back on the table, thanks to this judge. So we're now in a very bad situation. I haven't seen

any, you know, talk or press conference of this from HHS. All we've actually seen was, you know,

a statement by, you know, the, you know, some spokesperson at HHS, but, you know, it seems like

we're just taking it. It seems like they're just taking it not doing anything. There's been, yeah.

They are, Nicholas. They are. And I won't speak for you. I'll speak for myself. This was one of the

reasons that we advocated that Bobby Kennedy Jr. as the head of HHS not go through ACIP in order

to get some of these things done. A lot of this could be done just through his leadership,

especially in terms of the COVID shots, ending the declaration of emergency, right, which then gave,

which turned all of this into a military operation and determined that vaccines were countermeasures,

another reason that people were not able to get any type of justice for their injuries.

So this was something that we were very, very loudly advocating against. Of course, our,

this, you know, fell on deaf ears myself, Dr. Mary Talley-Boden, Sasha Latapoba, Dr. Naomi Wolf.

I mean, all of us were, in fact, I believe we, we formed petitions. We were open letters.

We did all the things. We went to mainstream news media. And it was exactly for this reason,

because when you, when you narrow it into this one committee that shouldn't be in charge of

anything anyway, then you get into the system and you can have a judge pull it away.

Bobby Kennedy Jr. has not said anything about this. And, and I have been told by people very

close to have had conversations with him that it's over, basically that think it's over, that

we're going to have to come from the outside end. There will be no movement from HHS whatsoever

on any of the agendas of Maha or the medical freedom movement that it is now everything in

anything from outside. And so I'm sorry that we've wasted a year and a half on this. I really

am. We didn't have to waste a year and a half on this, putting all of our eggs in the HHS basket,

which is really frustrating. It's interesting that the winds that we're talking about are coming

largely from outside of Washington, D.C., except for maybe that legislation. But I don't want to

put you on the spot there, Nicholas, because you're not, you know, you don't advocate politically,

but I will just say in terms of my analysis, this is why I always say, do not go into the belly

of the beast. We need to be advocating from the outside in parallel institutions, refusal to

comply. Everything but the kitchen sink, state pieces of legislation, local legislation,

lawsuits, every type of lawsuits, whether it's international or, or, you know, at the, at the

county level or at the state level, but, you know, we spent way too much time in my opinion,

begging and hoping and praying that Bobby is going to save us. And I think that was a mistake

of the movement. And I think it's coming to fruition now as we see what these judges are doing.

So that's just my thought on that. You can comment if you want, but you don't have to.

Well, you know, honestly, you're a hundred percent accurate. That's exactly, you know,

what's happening at this point in time. We put too much faith into one man. We thought things

were going to drastically change. And now here we are a year later. And we're back to where we were.

So, you know, it's very disappointing. They're not even talking about vaccines anymore. They've

been instructed not to by, you know, probably some individuals in the executive branch. And,

and now they're just talking about food. And, you know, if they remember, you know, obviously,

yeah, food's important. But so is the six million, you know, infants, six month olds and children

getting gene transfer injections. Right. We, you know, they don't talk about that. And so, yeah,

I'm very, very disappointed. And one more thing is not just vaccines. We have to remember a

month ago that executive order ramping up glyphosate production and giving the manufacturer's

liability protection. It's just ridiculous. Right. Right. Not only are they not removing liability

protection from the pharmaceutical companies, they are expanding it to the chemical companies

and the tech companies and the AI companies, which is insane. It's just unbelievable, unbelievable.

But the good news is in the culture. And, and that's really what I'm, I'm hearing. Like,

we might not be getting the wins in Washington, DC, but we are getting the wins outside of

Washington, DC. And I think those wins are going to be the ones that are the most meaningful.

And those wins are going to be coming, Nicholas, from, uh, from Nicholas organizations,

like the McCullough Foundation and, and your publication. You guys are doing groundbreaking

research. I, I can't even keep up with the papers and the studies and all of the work that you

are, you guys are doing that is underscoring so many of the horror stories that we saw in the

rollout of the COVID shots to begin with. And, you know, what parents have seen in terms of the

childhood schedule for their kids. So I, I want to go through some of the work that, that you have

done in the, the papers of, um, most importance, because there are a lot. Can you look at, you know,

the, the year or two, the two years that you have been in this situation or in this position with

McCullough Foundation conducting research? Can you point to some of the most important studies and

findings that you think are going to be really underscore and support real movement in the culture

and legally that, that you've looked at? Because I, I think that I'd, I'd like to give you, um,

free reign there to kind of tell us what you think is most important, what you think is going to

be most meaningful for people in terms of medical freedom and also protecting their bodies.

Yes, yes, there's so many, so many, you know, studies we could pick to go through that are absolutely,

you know, uh, um, earth shattering to say the least that never gets any mainstream coverage,

even though it should. And I guess, you know, we could start with the COVID shots, child shots,

or, you know, we can go into cancer. We're now doing some cancer research. Uh, what do you want

to start with? Let's focus on cancer because we are just a couple days out of my fourth annual

summit for truth and wellness. And we welcomed Dr, or we keep saying doctoration it. We welcome

William Mackenzie's almost going to be a doctor. He has his medical license approved in the state

of Florida. He is exiled. He's in, you know, in the US, um, evading the Canadian health officials

who want to put him in prison for two years. Um, but, but William is, he presented for an hour and

a half on, I mean, the case studies, the work that he's doing, uh, thousands of patients just

absolutely astounding in terms of cancer. Um, one of the worst adverse impacts of the COVID shots

has been what we now know as turbo cancer. So not only did they suppress the use of ibermectin

to treat COVID, they, uh, you know, push people into the COVID shots, which then, in terms of

mechanisms of harm, you can maybe speak to that, uh, accelerated cancers. And there's research

on that that you have uncovered. Uh, but they are now also trying to suppress the use of ivermectin,

fembendazole, fembend, uh, uh, fembendazole and other generic drugs in the treatment despite

what we're now seeing, uh, case studies and even new reports coming out. So let's focus on cancers.

Let's, um, let's narrow in there. We can, I'll have you on again. We'll do, we'll do the COVID shots

in other mechanisms of harm and also the childhood schedule on another date. I think that cancer

is a really great place for us to narrow in here because of the, because of the, the recent summit.

So why don't you go, um, why don't we start with what you have found in terms of, uh, the COVID

shots and cancers, particularly turbo cancers? Yes. So there, I mean, the, the evidence is now

undeniable. There's actually over a hundred peer reviewed studies now that indicate the MR and

A injections can induce cancer via 17 distinct mechanisms. In fact, CDC data now indicates CDC

death record mortality data from the CDC wonder database indicates the COVID-19 vaccination

program is one of the largest carcinogenic exposures in history. And so that's how serious this is.

There's been about a hundred and thirty six thousand excess cancer deaths in the US since the

vaccines rolled out in 2021. So it's accelerating the cancers, increasing mortality from cancer.

But also there's been two population studies with 8.7 million people combined in them and both

of them combined found that the COVID shots increased the risk of seven major cancers ranging from

bladder breasts and colorectal to stomach cancer and thyroid cancer. Um, so, and these were

vaccinated versus unvaccinated. And so the vaccinated are suffering way higher rates of cancers.

And then we have the mechanistic evidence that we have published at the McCullough Foundation. We

have identified an instance of genomic integration of MR and A vaccine genetic material in a stage

for bladder cancer patient. We found a segment of the DNA plasma spike expression cassette

fused into her chromosome 19 in her tumor DNA. Oh my god. So yeah, we believe that's a mechanism.

This, this DNA contamination is getting into the genome. Insertional mutagenesis causing

widespread havoc and uncontrolled cell growth. And then we have another paper where we identified

that the COVID shots turn off tumor suppressor genes P53 and Braca and thousands of other genes

to the gene expressions become completely thrown into chaos after these shots. We compared vaccine

injured people to a healthy control group pre COVID and literally genes related to mitochondrial

function, immune function and cancer surveillance with thrown into chaos. And so it's affecting

all sorts of things. And then we can keep going down the mechanisms of how they induce cancer.

You know, another one is hyper inflammation. Cancer is love to grow in inflammatory environments

as well as, you know, there's just, there's just so many things. And, you know, we can't really

keep track of it. But for sure, we know that these shots are indeed carcinogenic.

Have you found anything in terms of the number of shots versus the instances of cancers or

turbo cancers? And also, what percentage, or is there any information on what percentage of people

who who had COVID shots actually, you know, experienced these type of cancers? Is it 10%, 20%,

50%, I mean, any information or research there in terms of the those percentages?

We don't know exactly the percentage of individuals who were vaccinated that will develop cancer.

But we have, you know, risk estimates of how much your, you know, odds will increase of

developing cancer ranges from about 20% to 60% and it increases your risk of overall cancer

hospitalization by about 25%. And that was based on those two studies with 8 million people.

So it does increase the risk there, but there is a study and this is particularly important is,

is it doesn't just appear to induce cancers, but actually accelerate them. And so a study looked

at in pancreatic cancer patients and stage four pancreatic cancer patients and it literally

cut the time left to live in half. So it cut their survival time in half and it doubled their

death risk. So it's, it's making the cancers worse. That's why we see higher cancer mortality.

Hmm. Hence the term turbo cancer, which is now a reality in the US and it's absolutely

tragic and it's because of the shots, the COVID shots. So interesting, Nicholas, that the people

who coerced and forced the shots onto an unsuspecting public poison them, the people who did that

are the same people who are now desperately trying to suppress any discussion of cures because

the good news, this is terrible news that you have just presented here on the show horrible news.

But the very, very good news is that there are, are very effective. It appears

low cost ways to treat cancers alongside of typical cancer treatments in the use of

substances like ivermectin, fembendazole, membendazole, hydroxychloroquine, and other

natural, more natural protocols. And a lot of this work is being done like the actual in the field

work of, of the, of, you know, creating the protocols and, you know, deploying them through people

like William Maccus on your end, Nicholas, I'm seeing all of the research, like research pouring in

on, on these types of treatments. Can you overview these treatments? And then also speak to

the persecution and the attempt to suppress this in the US, in the same way they tried to suppress

the use of ivermectin to treat COVID. They are now trying to suppress the use of ivermectin

among others to treat cancers and it's disgusting in my mind, your thoughts.

Yes, yes. So first it's important to remember, the Soviet scientists discovered that anti-paracidics

had anti-cancer effects in the 1950s and that was literally classified by the CIA for about

50 years and then they declassified in 2011. So we were set back, you know, half a century of

research on these compounds. We would have been much further along at this point if they hadn't

chose to bury that information. But regardless, independent scientists have advanced it,

particularly recently, not only now in humans, but in the pre-clinical study. So in the pre-clinical

studies, ivermectin, membendazole and fenbendazole do exert about, or over, 12 anti-cancer mechanisms,

including targeting cancer stem cells, as well as interfering with cancer cell signaling,

disrupting what's called micro tubules in these developing cancer cells. And so when they expose

these anti-paracidics to cancers in the test tube, it stops the growth and it shrinks them.

But then you move on to animals and it does the same thing in animals. They test these compounds

and it halts the tumor growth in many cancer types. It's back to over 12 cancer types that

have shown effects on. And then yeah, we get to the human evidence. There's been very sparse

human evidence so far. There has been a few trials, very small trials that have reported improvements.

And then there has been, yeah, Dr. William Mackis did publish that case series of three stage four

cancer patients that went into either near remission or complete remission after taking the

fenbendazole protocol. Now, this is very big. We are currently working on a paper looking at

human cancer outcomes and those who took ivermectin and membendazole. And the preliminary results

are absolutely shocking. And we hope to get this out within the next week or so,

this which, you know, finally give us some human data. And I want people to know, you know,

also on this paper is the chair of the president's cancer panel, Dr. Harvey Reesh. So, you know,

it's a very serious paper. Wow. And I think it's going to change things quite drastically in this realm.

I'll just say, you know, many patients did report that their cancer has disappeared. So, you know,

stay tuned for that. And yeah, it's a very, very big thing. We got to start, you know, finding ways

to stop these cancers as now more and more people are becoming diagnosed with them, particularly at

young ages. It really is astonishing. And to meet so many of the cancer patients and people suffering

from cancer at the summit, Nicholas, there were people who flew in from all over the country

to meet William. And to thank him, cancers in remission, cancers, tumors shrinking,

the diligence that he practiced in terms of, you know, really documenting these case studies

and then publishing it on his sub-stack, right? I mean, these are clients who have agreed

for him to, you know, publish the results, their emails, and the protocols that were deployed.

And, you know, one of the things he did say was that it's still short term, right? We need to see,

we need to see if, you know, if this is happening in year one and year two, we need to see what's

happening in three, five, 10, 15, you know, so there's always a caution there. But yeah, this 12

anti-cancer mechanisms. And it's, it's very exciting to see this go mainstream. And I believe it

is going mainstream. I think that this is going to change so much. And it's why they're fighting so

viciously against any progress here, I believe. Yeah, yeah, they're fighting viciously against this,

what's called the chemo cartel. Oh, yeah, they don't, they don't want any other alternative

treatments as they rake in the cash of, you know, deploying treatments with very low

clinical benefit rates that are not helping. In fact, I don't mean, perhaps in some cases,

not only shortening survival, but if it does improve it by maybe a month or two as their entire

body shuts down from the cytotoxic agents. So yeah, and then it's like thousands upon thousands

of dollars per treatment. They got to come in very frequently and pay that cash for that

treatment. And so, you know, they don't want to get away from that for something that is cheap,

extremely cheap and unpatentable. And so yeah, it's very, very important that we start to

identify these alternative things. But one last thing I've remarked in Mambendez, all these

compounds are very safe in humans. You know, obviously, you know, if you take too much, it's toxic.

But it appears to be safer than even Tylenol. I mean, it's not like you're taking, you know,

heavy drugs that are going to result in, you know, acute toxicity at standard doses. Now,

it's been shown to be very safe. Well, and this also threatens the new deployment of mRNA

technologies and cancer vaccines, right? Like this is where all of these bastards are moving,

right? They inject us, poison us, and then sell us the cure, which is also toxic and rinse and repeat.

But there are how many, you know, in development mRNA, you know, cancer

vaccines that they would like to deploy to fix the crisis that they created. So, you know, in

terms of what you said about the typical cancer, I mean, chemo radiation, William spent some time

discussing another mechanism of some of these combinations of generic drugs in terms of helping

the body deal with and heal from the destructive nature of chemotherapy and radiation. It, you know,

in his observational study, there were many who fared much, much better with that traditional

cancer treatment while also using a combination of the Ivermectin, Phamendazole, Membendazole,

and they didn't have the horrible side effects that you see consistent, it consistently with

some of those treatments. Have you seen anything in the research from your perspective on that?

Yeah, I've seen one very promising thing that people take and it's actually had human

clinical randomized trials already is actually high dose vitamin C, a recent randomized trial found

in stage 4, I believe, pancreatic cancer patients. Though there are both, both groups were taking chemo,

one group only had chemo, the other group had chemo, and IV vitamin C about 75 grams a few times

a week. The group that received the vitamin C had literally lived twice as long, so they had

doubled, doubled survival time, they had less side effects from the chemo, and they had better

outcomes. That's a very big one for sure that appears to be able to counteract those toxic side effects

of chemo while at the same time exerting its own anti-cancer mechanisms. Amazing, amazing,

we do not have, we've just about run out of time, Nicholas, and I'm really bummed about that

because I really could talk to you for another hour or two hours, and I would like to actually do

this again in a couple of weeks, if you have the time to do it, I'd like you to come in regularly.

I want to talk about the childhood schedule, I want to talk about the COVID shots and other

mechanisms of harm and cures because this is part of the parallel institution, this is part of

us winning from the outside in, like getting this information out to the culture as much as we

possibly can. So we have a few minutes left if you'd like to wrap up, if there's anything I didn't

ask you that you think is really important, that you want to let the audience know about an area

that we didn't include in our discussion. This is now your opportunity to just tell everyone

what you think is really important, and of course, let everyone know how they can support you,

get in touch with you, and make sure that your work continues through the McCullough Foundation,

that would be great. Yes, there's one big breaking story that actually came out, I believe yesterday,

Senator Ron Johnson's office just sent out a press release, and they actually identified

that the Biden administration was intentionally hiding and changing words of stroke risks

after the COVID shots. So they were aware of a significant stroke safety signal from the shots,

and they did not alert anybody, they didn't alert the public, they kept it buried.

Wow, so that's very, very criminal, right? How many people got these shots when they had

these safety signals? We also know they hit the myocarditis signals that already came out in a

center hearing, but now they hit the stroke signals too. So there's something needs to be done,

there needs to be accountability, and yeah, you can follow me on X at NIC Holshur and substack vfocalpoints.com

and also Instagram and Facebook, you can find me there as well.

All right, and tell Dr. Peter McCullough, I said hi.

Definitely. He's going to be in in a couple weeks, you're doing such great work, and I'm just so glad

that you're working with him, really an amazing collaboration, and I'm a huge fan. So keep up

that great work, and I'll have you in as much as we can so that we can continue to bring people

the good news, right? The bad news about what was done to us, but the good news regarding how

we are fighting back, and we are helping each other to heal from what was done to us. You are

right at the center point of that, and I want to thank you. Thank you for having me. I'd love to

be back. Okay, amazing, amazing. All right, guys, Nicholas Holshur, he's going to be a regular on

the SJ show. I'm just telling you right now. I hope I don't bother him too much, but I just amazing,

amazing work that he is doing. I'm not surprised that he is working with and under the guidance

of Dr. Peter McCullough, not surprised in the least. In fact, Dr. Peter McCullough will be with us.

I just booked him this morning. I want to say two weeks from now, if I'm not mistaken, we're going

to have so much to talk about. So we are going to welcome Dr. Peter McCullough into the joy virtual

studio in just a couple of weeks. Such great information. The focal points is the website,

and he's on Nicholas's obviously on Substack and Twitter, which is where he does most of his

work. And yeah, he's just great. A fantastic young man. I agree with you. CJP Rumble,

can you believe that he just graduated from not undergrad, but his post-grad two years ago,

two years ago. So it just gives me so much hope, so much hope. So we're going to go to a quick break.

When we come back, we're going to go right into a pre-recorded interview that I did with a very,

very special guest. His name is Dr. Alejandro Diaz, and he is with the wellness company. He is

talking about tuberculosis. So once again, what is the theme here? They poisoned Americans

through the rollout of the COVID shots and operation warp speed in a million different ways.

But one of the most basic ways was the suppression of the human immune system. In a variety of ways,

we'll talk with Nicholas about that on another show, I'm sure. Now that suppression of our immune

systems is contributing to the rise in infectious diseases and horrifyingly tuberculosis is one of

them. We're going to talk about tuberculosis outbreaks here in the U.S., and we're seeing them

across the globe. And the way that Dr. Diaz describes this, if you were to compare, say,

tuberculosis with the flu, it's like the flu is a poodle, and tuberculosis is like a rabid

rotwiler. Like it's a horrifying disease, and people need to understand it, not so that you're

afraid, but so that you can protect yourself and your kids. And so we're going to be talking about

that in that very special, special sequence that we're going to run after the break. Again,

our sponsors at the Wellness Company, helping us understand what the threats are out there,

but then also providing so many ways for people to heal. So we're very thankful for the folks over

at the Wellness Company for sponsoring this, and we're going to go to that interview. And then

I will come back after the interview. We will close up the show right after. So I will be back

with you guys in just about a little less than a half an hour, but without further ado,

we're going to go to break. And then we'll go right into that interview.

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Welcome back everyone to the Shannon Joy show. And today we have a very special guest for the very

first time in the joy virtual studio. Dr Alejandro Diaz, he is the chief pediatric officer are

the chief of pediatric medicine over at the wellness company, amazing sponsor of the Shannon Joy show.

His sub stack is Diaz MD at sub stack dot com entitled bio politics. And we're going to talk to

Dr Diaz today about infectious disease about tuberculosis in particular. One of those very scary

terms, very scary diseases that we thought had been eradicated years and years ago. Well, unmitigated

immigration and mass migration into the interior of the United States of America over the past 10

years has now upped the resurgence of tuberculosis among children and others. And it's something that we

need to pay attention to. Dr Diaz, thank you so much for being with us today. Welcome. This is the

first time you've been on the show. I'm really glad to have you. How are you doing today?

Shannon, thank you so much for having the other show. Of course, of course. Well, let's talk first about

just, you know, your history is the first time the audience has met you. Obviously, you're working

with an amazing organization, the wellness company. So many of those docs have been regulars on

the Shannon Joy show, Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Drew Pinsky, very dear friends of this show in the

audience. Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got involved in the work

that you're doing today. And then we'll get into health and wellness, right? Talking about tuberculosis,

but then also talking about how we can protect ourselves and make sure that our immune systems

are healthy, our children's immune systems are healthy and functioning and give people a lot of

great information that they can use to protect themselves and their families. But, you know, first

a little bit about yourself. I'd love to learn more about you and your history. Sure. Thank you so

much. So I am Dr Alejandro Leyes. I was born and raised in Mexico, but I've been traveling all

over the world, practicing medicine, training and medicine with different fields. So first,

I'm an MD and then I did pediatrics and then allergy, immunology, and then overseas in Belgium,

pediatric gastroenterology. And then I work in immigration medicine for so many years,

traveling virtually all over the world, understanding my migration medicine. And I used to work in one

of the largest and busiest centers in the world when it comes to, you know, screening migrants.

And so I do a lot of global health. One of my, well, and most, most and foremost, I married,

I've seen, I have four beautiful boys. Wow. And I just love to help people. I just love to help

people. Yes. Probably my, I'm sorry, my, my collective fame is that I predicted the pandemic

that I call the COVID operation for a national radio. And so that's pretty much me.

Yeah. So you knew that this was coming and we know that the fear and the propaganda around,

you know, deadly infectious diseases. I mean, it's rampant. And people can get quite frightened

was way overblown during COVID. It was manipulated. And obviously we know, I mean, it led to

lockdowns and forced masking and the rollout of the deadly shots as a mitigation effort.

And we want to avoid that, right? We want to avoid the fear. We want to avoid the panic around

infectious diseases. And we want to have a healthy population. So that the government can never

lock us down again or use a pandemic or the fear of a pandemic to lock us down. This is why,

why, you know, keeping an eye on our health, making sure these immune systems are super healthy

and functioning is so incredibly important. Doesn't mean that there aren't infectious diseases

out there that can cause some harm. And today we want to talk about tuberculosis with Dr. Diaz

because no one else is talking about it. And as I mentioned, it is resurging in the US because of

immigration. And it's largely unreported. What have you found in the substack, the quiet

resurgence of tuberculosis is the title of a piece that you just recently wrote. And we have linked

that into the show notes of the Shannon Joy show. If you would all like to take a look. But you say

unprecedented migration flows are shaping the epidemiology of tuberculosis and emerging

diseases. And you go into a detailed report on this. What have you found? And why should people

be concerned? Yes. So, so first of all, Shannon, one of the things that I would like to share with

your audience is that if you ask virtually any doctor in the United States specifically,

and you ask them about, ask them about tuberculosis, chances are they will say we don't know anything

about it. Wow. Different reasons. Not because they're careless is because the medical system,

you know, they have been put tuberculosis as a relic, something in the past, something that

it's already in control. And it is not. That's the inconvenient truth. So, let me tell you about

what is tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is a highly contagious disease that it's caused by

Michael bacterium tuberculosis, which is an intracellular microorganism that has a thick

lipid-rich cell wall. Okay. And it's most of the time it's trans, well, virtually all the time,

it's transmitted through respiratory droplets, respiratory microparticular. Okay. It's highly

contagious. It's been in humanity for thousands of years, probably in medical, you know, in medical

history books up to 9,000 years. And it's, you know, widespread all over the world,

specifically in Southeast Asia, some places in Africa, that Africa, and even in the United States.

So, that's the description of tuberculosis. The signs and symptoms of tuberculosis are very

unique. And those are chronic cuff for over three weeks, fever, night sweats, malaise, the patient

doesn't feel well, good way, they don't have appetite, and they look bad. But that's like in the

late stages of the disease. Okay. When it comes to streaking is that since doctors, they don't have

it under the radar, they will never suspect, they will never suspect tuberculosis. But if we think

about it, those are exactly, pretty much exactly the same signs and symptoms of COVID. Interesting.

Yeah. So, what happened during COVID, Shannon? What happened during COVID? It was mass formation

psychosis for three to four years. Yeah. Everything, every single patient that comes into the ER,

that comes into the office visit or so on and so forth, everything was labeled as COVID, not even

influenza. Right. And you imagine how many cases of undetected tuberculosis were on those ERs,

on those hospital rooms and office visits, because everything was labeled COVID.

Right. That's right. Yeah. So, that's when it gets very tricky. Are there efforts to

informed doctors or screen for tuberculosis in the US today? I mean, you mentioned in your

piece here that we are seeing cases increasing numbers of cases of tuberculosis in the US.

Can you talk about migration, immigration and what we're seeing on the interior and, you know,

how we can get a handle on that and understand, you know, how to diagnose it. And then of course,

how to treat and even more importantly, how to prevent it. Right. Like at the end of the day,

we want to make sure that that there are preventative measures out there. But what are you seeing

here in the US that alarms you? Very important question. So I would like to divide this in four main

pillars. Okay. Public health disruption. And we will go through it. Migration over crowding,

drug resistance and immune suppression. What I mean by public health disruption, it's exactly what

happened during the hysteria and the mass formation during the COVID operation. What happened?

Everything was labeled COVID. Everybody, everybody who was cupping and had fever and feel ill

and so on and so forth, it was labeled as COVID. So what happened was the major programs for tuberculosis

detection and treatment that were shut down. Wow. Okay. Can you imagine did delay and the backlog

of early diagnosis for tuberculosis in the United States? And then what happened in the last five

years? Obviously that stopped when President Trump started, you know, started into the administration.

But before that, there are estimations that 11 million people

cross unauthorized the southern border, maybe they're coming from high burden tuberculosis

countries. And the vast majority of them, they weren't they weren't the screen for tuberculosis.

Can you imagine that? We have that. And then drug resistance, we have been seeing worldwide

an increase of drug resistance for tuberculosis. That's an additional component. And an additional

component, which is the fort pillar of it, it's immune suppression. What it's immune suppression,

a weakening of the immune system. What happened after what they called vaccines? I never call

them vaccines. I'm an immunologist, vaccinologist. I call them toxic, injectable products of experimentation,

the so-called vaccines. Right. So we have an immense amount of people who took those

jabs worldwide. But let's talk about the United States. And their immune system, it's weakened.

Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. We take into account that we have in the United States. This is

public health, pure public health. We have in the United States approximately 40 million patients

with diabetes. Diabetes, by definition, it's an immunological disease that their immune system

it's weakened. So if we put all these four main pillars into account, and what's going on right

now in the United States, we have the perfect storm to start seeing an increase in diagnosis

of tuberculosis. The challenge here is that not many doctors, they don't know how to scream

for tuberculosis because they haven't seen probably not even one single case. They can remember

their subjects and their microbiology and pathology during medical school, but that was many years

ago. They haven't seen a natural case of tuberculosis. So patients, and that is when it gets

tricky. So we have to empower our public health system. Well, people have to be asking their doctors

about this and understanding what it is. What makes tuberculosis different than

you know, a cold, a flu, some of the other diseases that we see out there, is it deadly or

is it impacting different age groups? Is it more dangerous for certain age groups? I mean,

what is your concern about the lack of understanding your knowledge about

increasing occurrence of tuberculosis in the country? How would that manifest in terms of

the population and the potential for real harm to their bodies? That's a great question, Shannon,

and let me put it this way. What concerns me about tuberculosis is, and let's make a

historic perspective. Up until this day, tuberculosis is still the number one killer

when it comes for infectious diseases. Really? It has been the number one killer of communicable

diseases since the history of mankind. Even today. Even today, worldwide. If we talk about

worldwide, it's highly contagious. If it's not treated, patients can die.

Now, estimates that approximately 13 million Americans, these are CDC data.

13 million Americans right now have LTBI, which what is LTBI latent tuberculosis infection.

That means that the micro-bacterium, it's already there in their lungs, just waiting for something

a dent in the suppression in the immune system to pick it up and start the disease.

That size of the problem is the one that we have, but we need capable physicians to do

the right diagnosis and to think about tuberculosis. If you don't think about something,

chances are you will not find it. One of the telltale signs of tuberculosis is a

chronic, consistent cough over multiple weeks. That's how it gets started. You mentioned malaise

and a fever. What would you say at this point? Let's move into what people can do to protect

themselves and to protect their immune systems. God forbid, they do have tuberculosis. How do you

go about getting screened for it or getting that diagnosis? What would you recommend to

people watching today about how to know if they have it and then how to treat it effectively

and with impact? Then from there, we'll move on to preventative. You are focusing on

damaged immune systems because of the rollout of the COVID shots. People are still dealing with

mRNA, the spike protein, all of the damage that has been done to their immune systems. This now

is going to make the more vulnerable to everything. Cancer, strokes, heart attacks, but also things

like tuberculosis. As you mentioned, tuberculosis is a rot-wiler with rabies compared to something

like the flu. We have to take it seriously. Diagnosis and treatment, what should people be on the

lookout for? Should they notice these symptoms? What should they be saying to their doctors if they

experience them? Well, the thing is that if you have a patient, if you're a doctor or you're a patient

and you're experiencing this constellation of signs and symptoms like fever,

chronic cough more than three weeks, malaise, you don't feel well, you don't have appetite,

you're losing weight and you're having nice sweats. Definitely, you have to go and see the doctor.

If you're traveling abroad, if you're going to different high burden countries for business

or pleasure, whatever, those are continuing factors that we have to take into account. But most

specifically, we have to doctors, they have to be aware that this tendencies of everything that

it's happening right now and just look at the main major airports in the United States right now

with the TSA staff problems and so on and so forth. We have four to five hours. I mean,

that's overcrowding places. People will be coughing, we'll be talking, we'll be spending

a extending amount of time. So it's just contributing factors that they're just aligning for that

tuberculosis, the micro bacteria to rise in our public health community. So it's just a matter of

not to create fear on anybody just to create awareness that we are having this and I am

predicted, predicted that if we don't do something about it, we will start to see a rise not only

in tuberculosis, but other communicable diseases because the we can have the immune system.

So what would you say in terms of prevention? We still need to fly. We still need to engage in society.

We still need to gather in groups. We know that isolation, lockdown shutdowns, masking, forced

jabbing, none of that works. None of that will help to to tamp this down. The best thing that people

can do in my opinion is to number one, not be afraid, but number two, engage in preventative measures

in making sure that their immune systems are healthy and working. I mean, from my perspective,

I'll never get another shot ever in my life. That is the number one thing I think I can do to

protect my immune system and the immune systems of my children. Lots of sunlight, lots of fresh air,

feet in the ground, a good night's sleep every night. Those are the baselines, but they're probably

supplements that people can take to. I'm not sure if there are certain things that they've crafted

at wellness company that can help people with immune support and making sure especially people

who may have taken the shot or who may have taken multiple shots. So in terms of prevention,

in addition to those things, what kind of products and supplements are out there that people can maybe

think about to help them get started on repairing and really helping their immune system get ready to

battle anything that is thrown their way, whether it's tuberculosis or the flu or the common colds

or pneumonia. What would you recommend? Well, basically, Shannon, you mentioned them all.

That's exactly the right thing to do. Do your grounding,

properly sleep, good hydration, your supplementation from scene to vitamin C, vitamin D to your

supplements, positive thinking, positive thoughts. Do not be afraid because that thing was

unfortunately one of them, the fear was more deadliest than the virus itself during COVID.

And I told that vividly all over the places where I was speaking that we do not have to be afraid.

So that's a very good, that that is very good. And you know, try to stay as healthy as

as you can. And we will be able to feel better. Right. Well, so the spike support helps to break down,

right? People who are COVID vaccine spike injured, that's one of the wellness products. It's Peter

McCullough's product that I think is really important to consider if you have taken COVID shots

or if your loved one has taken COVID shots, I think that's the baseline to begin to clear the body

of, you know, people who have taken the shots. And then, yeah, I am vitamin D is one. I live in

New York state with a lot of cloud cover. Right now, we are in the March doldrums. And when I tell

you, the sun has not peaked out in like 10 days. And I looked at the forecast for next week. And we

have another 10 days of zero sun, zero sun. So if you live in the Northeast, vitamin D is one of my

absolute staples and wellness company has great formulations for vitamin D and for zinc. By the way,

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They have all sorts of formulations at wellness company that you guys can take a look at.

For your D for your zinc spike support, that type of thing. What are your favorites? What do you

think is like, if people are going to look at a supplement, what do you think is like the baseline?

I mean, for me, D has been really important. But are there any other formulations that you think

are just the most important in terms of getting started? Because there are lots of supplements out

there. A million different things that people can take. And sometimes it's confusing to people.

That is true. Talking from the wellness company perspective, definitely my favorite because of

obvious circumstances, what happened with the COVID operation and the toxic injectable products

and the spike protein and so on and so forth. That's the on and spike detox. That's an

amazing product, all natural. A lot of research behind it, you know, formulated by the great doctor

Peter McCalla. Love him. Love him. In history. And it's just an amazing, amazing, other amazing

product. It's a component by Dr. Victory is a shield. So we have a lot of different

products that people can try. And but bottom line, we need more healthy people. We need to have

positive thinking. We have to eat right to sleep better to get sunlight, to do grounding to,

you know, just just create a healthier community. That's exactly what we need.

Absolutely. What is the mechanism of, what is the mechanism of, of, you know, for the ultimate

spike detox in terms of like the ingredients? Do you have an understanding of how that works

within the body to break apart the spike and kind of cleanse the body from that poisoning?

And how long does it take? I know, I think I've seen in some cases, you need to be on it for

somewhat of an extended period of time, depending on how many shots that you got. But can you

talk about how that works and the science behind it? Because I'm, I think it's very interesting.

And I know a lot of people love that product, but I'd love to hear more about that and how it,

how it works in the, in those who had the COVID shots. First of all, these are 100% in natural

products. There's chemicals. There are no alkaline. There's no drugs. There's, it's 100%. They

they have any nature for thousands of years. We're talking about bromeline. We're talking about black

pepper, you know, grapefruit and, you know, so many other nato kinase, I mean, that being for

thousands of years in Japan, people have taken it. And it just helped to break down that spike protein

that creates this inflammation that is the host that in the ACE, the ACE receptors. And it's

just creating clotting problems. Myocarditis, paracarditis, circulatory problems. Yeah.

Even we're starting to see a rise in cancers like never before. We're starting to see what we call

the terrible cancers, not only in the general population, but in very young, very young patients.

We're starting to see that we haven't seen any, I mean, I've been a doctor for 35 years,

and I haven't seen anything like this. I talked to doctors all over the world on a weekly basis.

And they're, they're, they're surprised that they're starting to see all this insanity in,

in the rise in turbo cancers and many other problems. It's horrifying. Horrifying the

turbo cancers. Every single day, I meet, I hear of a new friend or family member or colleague

who has come down with a turbo cancer. And even in the unvaccinated, which is quite

distressing, is that this is happening even in the unvaccinated communities, people who haven't

taken the shots, which really does lend a little bit of credibility to some of the studies

that we've seen regarding shedding. And so it now more than ever, it really, my audience knows

that I am very focused on, on immune health and protecting not only my immune system, but my,

my families as well. And you know, that's that a lot of that has to do with getting, you know,

the right mix of supplements. So really thankful for all the work that you have done.

And all the work that they've done over at the wellness company in terms of the research and

the development of really great products that, that inspire and put, help people protect themselves,

right, so that they don't have to be afraid of the next lurking disease around the,

the corner that's going to jump out and get them. They can know that their bodies are healthy

and that their immune systems are ready to take on whatever comes their way. So it's great to

meet you, Dr. Diaz. And everyone is sub stack is Diaz MD at sub stack dot com. It's entitled

biopolitics and you can check out his piece, the quiet resurgence of tuberculosis. We need to take

this seriously. This is a serious disease. And I'm glad that we were able to learn a little bit more

about it signs and symptoms. And anything else that you think the ever that the audience needs to

know about tuberculosis and how to protect themselves as a takeaway from our discussion before

before I let you go. We have about five minutes left. So anything else that you think is super important.

Well, things, things and times are very different than before. And my main concern right now,

worldwide, I travel all the time all over the world, you know, conferences and so on and so forth.

And this is one of the main things that I speak about biopolitics and I speak in in different

parliaments and so on and so forth is that we never had anything like like this COVID operation

before. Never. Never in history of mankind. Never. Right. And unfortunately, we have the toxic

injectable products in many people, 5.5 billion people to those japs at least one dose. And it's

a scientific fact that their immune system has been has been going through a severe depression.

Right. And unfortunately, we're going to start seeing this tremendous amount of different

rising come in a couple of diseases from missiles to tuberculosis to monkey box to

any other come in a couple of diseases and things along that line, tuber cancers and things

like that. So we just have to be in the best shapes of our lives. Absolutely. Because they will

use the they'll use and they love to use an outbreak of tuberculosis to lock us down. They

love to use an outbreak of measles to lock us down. Like and we just can't give that to them.

That's why to your point, like we've got to protect our our bodies and our immune systems.

I absolutely agree that things are going to get pretty dicey. You know, I forgot to mention this.

This changed my life. Dr. Peter McCullough speaking of Dr. Peter McCullough, who we need to have

on the show again, by the way, soon. Years ago, maybe two years ago, three years ago, I had him on

the show and we're talking about all of these things. And he mentioned to me a little homemade

solution that he created. He didn't create it, but he used and he shared the recipe. It's a

betadine or betadine. One part betadine to 10 parts of distilled water. Right. So a little solution.

And you would put it in like one of those old nasal sprays. And anytime he was in a big crowd,

he was traveling internationally. He's at the airport for five hours standing in a line,

like swollen glands, any hint of something happening. Right. He would take a few squirts of the

betadine in the water potion in the nostrils, both nostrils, a couple times a day for a few days.

And I took his advice. I made my own solution and I will tell you,

knocks everything out, everything. And now my entire family, they're like, Mom, you're crazy.

Mom, you're crazy. Mom, you're crazy. My husband, you're crazy. Now they know, I never get sick.

Ever, ever. I mean, I take my supplements. I make sure I have my, you know, my D and my Zinc every

day. And they see that I never get sick. And so now they're all obsessed with it. Even my college

age son has turned on all of his roommates and, you know, his teammates on his volleyball teams

do it when they need to perform and they can't miss a game or a practice. Like they just knock it

right out. Your thoughts on that because that was, that's been a game changer for me. I mean,

it's, it's crazy. But, you know, your thoughts on that because I, it's, it's so easy, but it works.

I've been a fan of the Dr. Peter McCallis since the beginning of the COVID operation.

We've been, we've came France and I admire him so much. It's working and everything.

And I agree one hundred percent. Those iodine polodine solutions that we also have

among other ingredients, natural ingredients of the wellness company.

Oh, you do? You have like a, oh, yeah. And they work incredible. All my kids, my wife, my

self-employed, we use it all the time. And we're very healthy.

Okay. I didn't know that wellness company had. Oh, geez. All right. That, get it. I mean,

the best. I mean, I make my own like little solution and it's, it's probably not nearly as,

as potent and effective as something that they make at wellness company. So, um, that's great.

If you don't want to make your own, just go to my website and, and grab it from the wellness

company. That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure to get to

know you. And I really appreciate all of your work. Um, and, um, we'll hope to have you on the show

again to talk about other aspects of health. But great job. And guys, make sure you follow him

on his sub stack Diaz MD at sub stack dot com. Also support the wellness company. They are amazing

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Really appreciate you. Thank you, Shannon. Thanks. Okay. And keep up the great work.

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Welcome back everyone to the final segment of the S.J. show. I hope that you learned a lot

from Dr Alejandro Diaz. He is such a great guy. Sorry, my phone's ringing. It's Naomi Wolf.

Love that girl so much. I'm going to silence it for now and I'll call her right back because I'm

live on air. But I hope you guys enjoyed that interview with Nick culture. I promise you we are

going to bring Nicholas back on the S.J. show. I see all of you on the live chat. It was blowing up.

He is extraordinary and his understanding of from the 40,000 foot vantage point of what is

happening in context of medical freedom. So whether it's it's political, legislative,

whether it's the lawsuits and the cases or the research, he is in understanding of all of it

and it makes him a really, really important person. So we are definitely going to have him on again.

So yeah, I hope you guys had enjoyed the show today and I have to wrap it up because we're already

at an hour and 45 minutes. The show is only supposed to be 90 minutes long, an hour and 30 minutes.

We went over today. So you got a little extra from the Shannon Joy show. But tomorrow it's going

to be fantastic. Luxurious. I have no guests. It's just going to be you and me. We're going to go

over the news of the day and other larger themes that I kind of want to talk to you about. So big

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you guys are fantastic. Great to see you. And yeah, Friday. Do not miss the show. Peter Schiff will

be with us live for at least an hour. And we're going to be talking about the pump and dump

Trump, the insider trading, all of the manipulation of the markets, the manipulation of gold and silver

markets was happening in the Shanghai exchange versus the comics exchange. There is so much going

on. And we need to understand what is happening with our finances because the S is going to hit

the fan. So big, big, big, big show with Peter Schiff on Friday, 12 p.m. Eastern time to 1.30 p.m.

Eastern time. I will be self producing. So we won't have all the fancy graphics. And we won't

have Annie, who is amazing, who produces the show. But I think I can figure it out. So Friday is

not behind paywall. Mark the Reagan. Yeah, I would never put Peter Schiff behind the paywall

ever, ever, ever, ever. So yeah, he's great. And tomorrow I'm going to overview a phenomenal,

phenomenal interview that I posted on my show notes yesterday about what's going on in the

golden silver markets from a Canadian. And he's a Canadian who is very well versed in mining.

The actual physical extraction of metals, primarily gold from the earth and the building of mines

and the building of mining companies. And I know that that Peter is really, really interested in

mining stocks. In fact, I just called Dom Palano, my financial advisor over at PCM and Associates.

And I said, let's have a conversation today about mining stocks because I'm very interested in

that. I think that I think that golden silver, I mean, long, long term. So five, 10, 15, 20 years

is going to be very, very important. And so yes, I would never, ever mark the Reagan put Peter

behind the paywall. Nobody puts Peter in a corner. Anyway, Ralph, the flying Dutchman, Annie is

amazing. Yes, she is. Thank you, Ralph, for being with us today. Right, exactly.

Gets our lily. Great to see you. Clones. Great to see you. Corona zone 77. Glad that you were with us

today on the Rumble live chat. You guys are amazing. We'll be back again tomorrow. So tomorrow,

we'll be here again, 12 PM Eastern time for another show. And I can't wait to meet up with you guys

again. So have a great afternoon. We'll be back tomorrow to do it all again right here on the

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