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We have some big news right now, Senator Mark Wayne-Mullen is being grilled by Republican
Rand Paul in a stunning display during the Senate hearing for the confirmation of Mark Wayne-Mullen
to be the next Department of Homeland Security Secretary to replace Christy Knote.
And well, a lot of senators are skeptical. They're skeptical of denomination,
they're skeptical of Mark Wayne-Mullen, especially given the fact that in the past,
Mark Wayne-Mullen has exhibited extremely aggressive tendencies as a senator.
And he's being grilled by Democrats and by Republicans. And the hearing, at least right now,
isn't going too well for him. I have the latest for you. I'm watching it so that you don't have
to make sure to like, comment, share, and subscribe. The more you like, the more people see.
Subscribe to my sub-stack, click the link below to support my work. At the end of this, I'll also
have an interview with Congressman Gabe Amo about this hearing, along with other things,
including TSA and more. So right now, Senator Rand Paul is ripping Mark Wayne-Mullen a new one.
And he began by going after Mark Wayne-Mullen personally, take a listen to this.
Jim's led to an infection in the space between my lung and chest wall. I spent a week in the hospital
having the infection in the village every six hours through a chest tube. Recently, Senator Mullen,
if you have time to listen, you were confronted by constituents that were angry because you voted
against my amendment to stop all funding for refugee welfare programs. Instead of explaining your
vote to continue these welfare programs for refugees, you decided to transfer the blame.
You told the media that I was a freaking snake and that you completely understood why I had been
assaulted. I was shocked that it would justify and celebrate this violent assault. It caused me
so much pain in my family, so much pain. I just wonder if someone who applauds violence against
their political opponents is the right person to lead an agency that has struggled to accept limits
to the proper use of force. Being confronted by your constituents.
Senator Mullen, your constituents are justifiably upset with you. By now, most of America knows that
the Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota stole over $9 billion. Instead of defending your vote,
you took to continue the vote to continue these refugee welfare programs. You chose to lash out at me.
You went on to brag that you had already told me to my face that you completely understood and
approved of the assault. Well, that's a lie. You got a chance today. You can either continue to lie
or you can correct the record. You have never had the courage to look me in the eye and tell me
that the assault was justified. So today, you'll have your chance. Today, I'll give you that chance
to clear the record. Tell it to my face. If that's what you believe, tell it to me today. Tell the
world why you believe I deserve to be assaulted from behind, have six ribs broken and a damage
lung. Tell me to my face why you think I deserved it. And while you're at it, explain to the American
public why they should trust a man with anger issues to set the proper example for ICE and
Border Patrol agents. Explain to the American public how a man who has no regrets about
brawling in a Senate committee can set a proper example for over 250,000 men and women who work at
the Department of Homeland Security. Pretty stunning from a Republican senator, but he didn't stop
there because if you recall, last year, Mark Wayne Mullen went after the teamsters president
went after him. I mean, it threatened to have a duel on the Senate floor. Take a listen to what
Rand Paul grilled Mark Wayne Mullen on today. In the days after the fight, you did many interviews
in which you justified the violence as historically justified by precedents, such as caning and
dueling. Is it today your opinion that the caning of Charles Sumner was not only justified but
argues still for resolving our political differences with violence? What I was simple to point
out is some of the rules that still apply to this body. For instance, dueling with two consenting
adults is still there. I was pointing out what is still legal for 170 years. There's no precedent
for legal dueling, even then they fled the country. Do you realize that the man that beat
Charles Sumner with a cane, he beat him till he was unconscious. You know why no senators intervened
because he's friend how to gun on the other senators and he kept beating him and beating him until
he crushed his skull. That's what you're insinuating is the precedent of the Senate and that's what
you live by. That is a very, very dangerous sentiment. Pretty stunning that Mark Wayne Mullen is
admitting that he that dueling to him is okay as long as there are two consenting adults and as
the Republican Senator Rand Paul notes that's been illegal. But there was another revealing moment
this morning that I want you to know about. It's when Senator Hassan asked Mark Wayne Mullen whether
or not he would reject an illegal order from the precedent take a listen.
Let's start with the question I have asked every one of the president's nominees.
If directed by the president to take an action that would break the law, would you follow the law
or follow the president's direction? Senator thank you for the questions and thank you for the
concerns. First of all I've enjoyed working with you on several different issues. We've had
very blunt conversations. To answer your question the president would never ask me to do that.
Well certainly every day Americans who have served on juries would disagree with you about that
and the example he has set calls into question that answer. He would have answered. So that's
the latest right now. I spoke with Congressman Gabe Almo about this, the long lines at TSA and
much more. So I want you to listen to that. Let me know what you think. Like, comment, share,
and subscribe. Here's my interview with the Congressman. Super excited today to be joining my
Congressman Gabe Almo from Rhode Island. Now Congressman I got to jump right in. A lot of folks are
concerned. TSA way times are sometimes in the hour is for them. They have to get to airports.
Early TSA agents are working unpaid right now. What is the status regarding the partial government
shutdown? How long will folks feel the pain of this shutdown? Look people are going to continue
to feel pain because Donald Trump and Congressional Republicans are choosing to have this be the way
that we're traveling right now. They would much rather have ICE and CBP continued their terror
and the creation of fear in communities across America rather than compensate the hard working
public employees who are at TSA, the Coast Guard, and so many important functions like FEMA. We had
a major storm in Rhode Island. This should be the priority, but instead, Trump wants ICE to
reign and create terror in communities. So I've seen a proposal. I think most of us have seen
something released that says things like we will codify the non deportation of U.S. citizens.
That's insane. That's already not a thing that you're allowed to do. So until they end
the roaming patrols until they change policy, these some practices have better training.
Get rid of the damn masks. We cannot allow the status quo of ICE to persist.
And so the question for the administration is clear. Do you care about the hard working
public employees, the travelers moving about for work, spring breaks, all of the things that
are happening for Americans? Or do you care more about ICE? This is a choice. And I think they're
answering us, but you're seeing my colleagues and the House of Representatives, Republicans,
feel the heat. That's why they released their weak proposal, but we have to be
more vocal and more committed about the chaos that they're treating. So in fact, today,
House Democrats are launching a discharge petition to fund all of the parts of DHS except for
the CBP and ICE. So every Republican who cares, who's running their mouth, should sign this
discharge petition, get it to the floor and make sure that we pay these employees and we get
those critical functions of DHS that are causing to the support that they need.
Right now, Senator Mark Wayne-Mullen is having a hearing to possibly be confirmed as
Christie Nome's replacement at DHS. Do you support Senator Mullen to be the next secretary of DHS?
I don't see how he's any more qualified than the last unqualified person to do the job.
And it seems like he's going to be a puppet of Donald Trump. No fierce independence, no
management abilities that we've seen thus far. I think he's most widely known for trying to start
fights with union leaders and hearings. I don't think those are the skill sets that we need
for this job that is about keeping the homeland safe. DHS has been littered with unprofessional,
unqualified people, grifters like Corey Lewandowski, the teenager that they put in charge
of domestic violence extremism. We need serious people. This is a serious time, the cyber threats
that exist, the threats to the homeland. I do a lot of work around preventing issues at
houses of worship. I support and lead a letter on the non-profit security grant program. In fact,
I've requested a billion dollars for that program so that people at synagogues and mosques, churches
don't have the fear of your worshiping, of participating in the community activities like we saw
last weekend Michigan. So we need to have serious people doing serious work. I'm not sure he's a
serious person, but we'll see it. Well, you talk about threats to the homeland and I think that's
a big concern a lot of Americans have right now because you do have a department shutdown. You do
have less folks working at airports. You have a war overseas right now. What do you say to someone
who says, I don't want to fly. I don't want to get on the airport. I don't want to go to a house
of worship right now. I'm terrified. Yeah, well, we cannot ever let fear or terrorism win. And I know
that is sort of a phrase that has been bandied about, but part of what the destabilizing impact
of terrorism is meant to be is to put a chilling effect on all that we do in our lives. This is why
as public servants, we have to empower those who protect. And I would say to the average American
citizen, the average Rhode Islander, I would say, look, go about your life. And then I will say to
the people who work in my space, let's do our jobs, right? Too often in this Congress,
congressional Republicans have said, you know, we're going to let go and let Trump. That's unacceptable.
That's not the country and the system that we believe in. They elected us, our voters,
our constituents to do work. And so we have to do that where I say, I'm going to continue to
compel my Republican colleagues to step up to the plate and protect our constituents across this
country. Now, something your colleagues have said publicly is that Christy Nome is leaving the
Department of Homeland Security, but that doesn't mean accountability for Christy Nome is over.
Some folks have said suggests a criminal charges for perjury. Others have suggested impeachment
so that she can't hold office again, potentially running for Senate and South Dakota. Where are you
on that issue? Do you believe that Christy Nome should be held accountable more? And if so, what does
that look like? Look, there should be a day of reckoning for every Trump administration official
who carried out their functions for self enrichment and that created danger for the American people.
So what it looks like, I think we've got a lot of places in Congress to navigate that, you know,
we've got oversight committee, we've got the Homeland Security Committee, but we have to have
hearings and robust hearings. When we're in the majority, that's not just so that we can have
gavils so that we can use gavils to compel people to show up. And not just those at the top,
the folks that may not be in the headlines, you know, I bring up Cory Lewandowski because this
is a guy who was known to transact. If you wanted something done at DHS, they said call core,
give a contract to his company. So there should be no safe harbor for these Trump administration
officials. There are consequences. And I hope that those having their jobs now see that there are
consequences and see, well, I better be on my best behavior. I better actually do the work and
serve the American people because I will have to show up in Congress and we will have them in front
of us giving us answers, providing accountability. So I think that's the first step. But I also think
that we should certainly look at the whole ecosystem that is benefiting from the terrible actions
of these officials and, you know, remind folks that if you're an enabler, you're part of the
problem too. That's corporate America. That's, you know, that's folks beyond the greed and the
corruption has got to stop. Well, Congressman, before I let you go, I got to ask you two, those
watching a lot of them are saying, well, why am I going to give Democrats power right now?
Honestly, it doesn't seem like they're doing much. So if you get power tomorrow, let's say,
where you in November, January, whenever, what's the first thing that you plan on? Do whether it's
launching an investigation or pushing a piece of legislation, what's the objective? What are the
American people need to know? Look, the first thing that I want to work on is addressing issue number
one. And that's the cost of living that Americans are dealing with, right? Because the
distraction and the chaos and the confusion and all the challenges brought forth by the Trump
administration all takes these public officials off the ball of the real important things that the
American people want us to address. And so my first priority would be addressing the high cost
of health care. Health care in many ways for so many families for so many individuals is the
beginning, middle, and the end, right? Because if you aren't healthy, you can't go to work. You can't
take carrier kids. Your other expense is to sort of subsumed by this. So I want to work to help
people afford their health coverage. That's an issue number one. But then we have to look more broadly
because the profiteering that we see from the Trump administration across the board, refusing to
hold to account the major issues around the high costs of grocery, so around the high cost of
energy, right? The fossil fuel industry, the benefits greatly from Trump's in action. Remember,
when he ran, he said, your rich, I'm going to make you richer. We have to look at all of these
things that impact people's ability to afford their lives. Because at the end of the day, to your
question, if you're a voter and you're thinking about, oh, you're going to pick next November,
I hope the question revolves from who's going to make my life better?
And that's what we get ahead in this country is that you have a system where people work hard,
they play by the rules, and we help them get to better life in all measures of the way that we
evaluate that from your cost or your ability to have a roof over your head for your kids to have
opportunities for career or college. That's what people want. They don't want wars of choice,
and they don't want endless corruption and enrichment of the few. And so that's what I'm going to
focus on. Congressman, thank you for taking a few minutes. Hey folks, thanks so much for watching.
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