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Ryan is on the phone today for our first day follow-up
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and he's getting ghosted by Morgan.
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So in a few minutes we'll call her
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and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him
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and maybe get him a second date.
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How long has it been since you heard from Morgan?
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Not long about six days,
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but definitely long enough to answer a text that just says,
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hey, I had fun with you.
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Did you try to reach out to her a couple times?
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Or was that the only one you left it there?
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hey, I had a really good time,
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and let's get together next week.
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We talked at the end of after dinner last week,
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so I don't know if it's just kind of weird.
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Tell us about the date.
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It was actually like,
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it was like we kind of skipped over any kind of,
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like an awkward phase.
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We just sort of clicked.
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We went to this little Italian restaurant,
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that the exposed brick,
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just a really nice, nice little spot.
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I love those places.
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It was kind of, kind of,
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sleepy and split a bottle of red,
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ordered too much pasta,
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You know, at the end it kissed,
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and it was like real.
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It wasn't like, you know,
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It was, it was like,
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there's something here,
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at least I thought there was.
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Okay, walk us through how that happened.
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Did you lean in and grab her cheek?
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Did she lean in and you just turned your head?
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Like, how did it go down?
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I walked her, I walked her back to her car,
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it just, we locked eyes,
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and it just felt natural.
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Well, why do you think you're getting ghosted then?
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I mean, like I said,
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things, things seems cool.
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I mean, the only thing I could think is,
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this place, the Italian place,
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it's, they're like known for their bread,
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she had been there before,
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and was obsessed with the bread.
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caught and fresh right out of the oven,
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and so she was telling me a story,
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and it was kind of funny,
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and I was taking a sip of my water,
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it was only a few drops,
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it seemed like she had looked past it,
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but maybe it's the bread,
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And you didn't get her new bread?
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Maybe that's why, because,
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there was more bread,
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obviously, but yeah.
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I'm just trying to think about anything
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that could have gone wrong,
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or anything that would have been weird or off,
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or anything like that.
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you're excited to eat,
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Okay, and that's the only thing you can think of.
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Did you say she wanted to see you again?
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Yeah, yeah, like I said,
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you know, there was a vibe,
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like I said at the end there,
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lean against the parking meter afterward,
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I know that you knew.
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like, you know that it was nice.
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like, if there was some kind of moment,
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like, did your teeth touch?
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No, nothing crazy like that.
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Ryan is on the phone,
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and he's getting ghosted by Morgan,
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so we're about to call her
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and see if she'll tell us why.
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and maybe get him a second date
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if he still wants one.
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But before we do that,
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Ryan, why don't you break down
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your situation for us real quick?
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I went out with this girl, Morgan,
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and took her to dinner.
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We had a really good time.
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I accidentally spent on her bread.
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I hope that has nothing to do with this one.
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we got along really, really well,
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and I walked her back to her car,
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and then nothing crickets, you know?
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Bread is not a euphemism.
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He makes it spit on the floor.
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I'm going to say that line.
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It wasn't code for anything.
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All right, Ryan, are you ready for us to call her?
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Yeah, yeah, let's get her on the line.
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I'm curious if you want to see what's going on.
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Hi, I'm I speak to Morgan, please.
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Hey, Morgan, how are you?
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This is a radio show.
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It's called the Jubal Show.
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Hi, Morgan, I'm Nina.
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And my name is Jubal, how are you?
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Well, hi, there's LavaVeeo.
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Have you ever listened to the show before?
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You know what we're seeing?
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I'm seeing some things in there.
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Hey, we're listening to the show before?
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I feel like I shouldn't say no.
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Well, you're doing a lot of podcasts.
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Congratulations, John.
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We'll check it out some time, but we're calling you today because we actually got an email
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So we do a segment on the show.
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It's called the first date follow-up.
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That's where if you go out on the date with someone and then you go stem, that person can
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email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. Is there anybody that
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you're ghosting that you think would email us?
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I, yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm shocked that it would be so important that they would
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call on you and see your patients. I, I can't think of them. That's flattering.
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Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm talking about Ryan.
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Mm-hmm. Do you mind telling us why you're ghosting Ryan?
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Yeah. Uh, sure. Why not? Um, okay. So Ryan, I went on the date. It was good. It was
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a good day. It really great time. And I decided I want to see him again. And I don't feel
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bad about it. So that's like, I can tell you why. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I want to know.
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Okay. So I got home. I looked in the mirror and I realized that a huge piece of lettuce
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in my taste. She's like, like fully in the front of my teeth. And he said nothing. And
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that the deal breaker for me. Okay. So why is that a deal breaker? I mean, I can see how
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it's kind of embarrassing. And it's not awesome to see when you get home from a date.
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But why is that something that you're just calling it good on?
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Oh, can you imagine like we're talking for hours. We're flirting. I'm smiling at him
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and telling him stories. We're gazing into each other's eyes across a candle like
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table. And the whole time I've let it to my teeth. And he didn't help me. Like for me,
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that's just like not the kind of person I hang out with. I want to hang out with someone
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who's going to tell me about lettuce in my teeth. What if he didn't see it?
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Then he's blind. That's not possible. And if he really, really didn't, then he's not
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observant and I still don't want to deal with someone like that. But I find it really
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hard to believe he didn't see it. I know it sounds silly, but I get you, girl.
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I get like that in the studio some time. I noticed I have food in my teeth and jubilant
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Victoria didn't tell me. Hey, man, we didn't see that. Yeah, there's a lot of times I don't see it.
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Okay. So maybe we can see it.
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Hey, Morgan, that's Ryan. He's actually on the phone listing and wants to talk to you by the
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one. Hey, uh, I'm sorry. This is about lettuce in your teeth. Yeah. Oh my god. Well, so, but
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hold on. You're telling me one story. It's not a random flip up. That's a violation of my trust.
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It indicates who you are. You're like bearing your soul to me. I'm supposed to stop you and
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be like, Hey, your mouth looks like a compost bin. Oh, gosh.
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Yes, because one of your knockouts out by that problem. And two, yes, you're supposed to have
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some inside so they don't make a fool of themselves. I don't know what else you're keeping from me.
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I don't want to move forward. This is like some sort of a test or something.
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Yeah, China. No, yeah, hold on. Are you saying you're saying you knew you had food in your teeth
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and and waiting for me to change something? Yeah, it's a perfect test. The real ones will say
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something. They care enough to say something. They're not trying to be night. I don't want
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them to be nice to me. I want someone to be real with me. You put the food in your teeth on
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purpose. Yeah, yeah. Oh, this is. That is first of all, that is so manipulative. I don't
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really even know what to say. That's, you know what? I'm the perfect. Look, when
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you remind you, we're talking about this on the radio show. So I feel like my assessment of
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you is correct. I cannot believe this is happening. Second of all, I do this on every gate
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and it hasn't failed me. You know what? I put a little bit of like a leaf, a little bit of something
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deliberately leave it there. If they call it out, they pass. If you let me walk around,
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you can just say, hey, Morgan, your teeth look like a salad bar. We'd be going out.
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Yeah, I feel like we've been planning we can get away. I think you really seriously need
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therapy and a toothpick. I feel like it's a reflection of your character. You can say that
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I'm insane. But knowing that you left me like that for hours, it feels like the whole thing
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was fake and it's very embarrassing for me. Cool. Well, next time I'll carry dental floss and
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one of those little bibs they give you when you're getting your teeth cleaned.
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There's not going to be a next time because I'm carrying dental floss is about being honest
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to my face. Are you sure Morgan? Do you want another day with Ryan? We'll pay for it.
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No, no, I think I think I'm good because you're telling me you're running psychological experiments
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on the menu, go to dinner with. You're I'm good. This is
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I'm like, you can see the bottom of this. It's a new kind of test.
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The thing is I would never do that to you. I would have your back. So you can see it as a
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manipulation, but it's sort of like it's a right of passage. It tells me what I need to know.
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I'm not a manipulative person in general. So you think you're fake. You're fake with me.
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Good luck. Sorry, Ryan and Morgan, thank you very much.
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Thank you. I've been too lucky.
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