Brian & Morgan: Ghosted Over Dinner… But Was It the Bread or Something Way Worse?

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Ryan is on the phone today for our first day follow-up

and he's getting ghosted by Morgan.

So in a few minutes we'll call her

and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him

and maybe get him a second date.

How long has it been since you heard from Morgan?

Not long about six days,

but definitely long enough to answer a text that just says,

hey, I had fun with you.

Did you try to reach out to her a couple times?

Or was that the only one you left it there?

No, I just said,

hey, I had a really good time,

and let's get together next week.

We talked at the end of after dinner last week,

so I don't know if it's just kind of weird.

That's all.

Tell us about the date.

Well, it was nice.

It was really nice.

It was actually like,

it was like we kind of skipped over any kind of,

like an awkward phase.

We just sort of clicked.

We went to this little Italian restaurant,

very, very classic,

a hole in the wall,

that the exposed brick,

just a really nice, nice little spot.

It was cool.

It was chill.

I love those places.

Yeah.

It was kind of, kind of,

sleepy and split a bottle of red,

ordered too much pasta,

and it was nice.

You know, at the end it kissed,

and it was like real.

It was like a real,

it was a real kiss.

It wasn't like, you know,

see you later.

It was, it was like,

there's something here,

at least I thought there was.

Okay, walk us through how that happened.

Did you lean in and grab her cheek?

Did she lean in and you just turned your head?

Like, how did it go down?

I walked her, I walked her back to her car,

and you know,

it just, we locked eyes,

and it just felt natural.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, why do you think you're getting ghosted then?

I'm not sure.

I mean, like I said,

things, things seems cool.

I mean, the only thing I could think is,

this place, the Italian place,

it's, they're like known for their bread,

and apparently she,

she had been there before,

and was obsessed with the bread.

They bring it like,

caught and fresh right out of the oven,

and so she was telling me a story,

and it was kind of funny,

and I was taking a sip of my water,

and I like laughed,

and I kind of,

I hit the bread,

but it was like,

it was whatever,

it was only a few drops,

or you know,

it seemed like she had looked past it,

but maybe it's the bread,

I don't know.

And you didn't get her new bread?

Maybe that's why, because,

oh, we got,

we got,

there was a lot,

there was more bread,

obviously, but yeah.

I'm just trying to think about anything

that could have gone wrong,

or anything that would have been weird or off,

or anything like that.

Yeah,

spinning on bread,

you're excited to eat,

it is kind of like,

oops.

Okay, and that's the only thing you can think of.

Yeah.

Did you say she wanted to see you again?

Yeah, yeah, like I said,

you know, there was a vibe,

it was,

it was cool,

like,

like I said at the end there,

there was,

you know,

there was a real

kiss,

like,

I had to, like,

lean against the parking meter afterward,

just to...

Was it bad?

Like,

I know that you knew.

I don't know,

like, you know that it was nice.

I'm just wondering,

like, if there was some kind of moment,

like, did your teeth touch?

Are you sorry?

No, nothing crazy like that.

No.

Ryan is on the phone,

and he's getting ghosted by Morgan,

so we're about to call her

and see if she'll tell us why.

She's ghosting him,

and maybe get him a second date

if he still wants one.

But before we do that,

Ryan, why don't you break down

your situation for us real quick?

I went out with this girl, Morgan,

and took her to dinner.

We had a really good time.

I accidentally spent on her bread.

I hope that has nothing to do with this one.

And I don't know,

we got along really, really well,

and I walked her back to her car,

and we kissed,

and then nothing crickets, you know?

Okay.

Bread is not a euphemism.

He makes it spit on the floor.

I'm going to say that line.

It wasn't code for anything.

All right, Ryan, are you ready for us to call her?

Yeah, yeah, let's get her on the line.

I'm curious if you want to see what's going on.

Okay, here we go.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello.

Hi, I'm I speak to Morgan, please.

Is this you?

Hey, Morgan, how are you?

This is a radio show.

It's called the Jubal Show.

Hi, Morgan, I'm Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria.

And my name is Jubal, how are you?

Well, hi, there's LavaVeeo.

Hey, yeah.

Have you ever listened to the show before?

Yeah, I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

You know what we're seeing?

I do.

I'm seeing some things in there.

I do.

Hey, we're listening to the show before?

I feel like I shouldn't say no.

You're not.

I'm sorry.

All right.

Well, you're doing a lot of podcasts.

Okay.

Great.

Congratulations, John.

Yeah.

We'll check it out some time, but we're calling you today because we actually got an email

about you.

Okay.

So we do a segment on the show.

It's called the first date follow-up.

That's where if you go out on the date with someone and then you go stem, that person can

email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. Is there anybody that

you're ghosting that you think would email us?

I, yeah, I think so. I mean, I'm shocked that it would be so important that they would

call on you and see your patients. I, I can't think of them. That's flattering.

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm talking about Ryan.

Mm-hmm. Do you mind telling us why you're ghosting Ryan?

Yeah. Uh, sure. Why not? Um, okay. So Ryan, I went on the date. It was good. It was

a good day. It really great time. And I decided I want to see him again. And I don't feel

bad about it. So that's like, I can tell you why. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I want to know.

Okay. So I got home. I looked in the mirror and I realized that a huge piece of lettuce

in my taste. She's like, like fully in the front of my teeth. And he said nothing. And

that the deal breaker for me. Okay. So why is that a deal breaker? I mean, I can see how

it's kind of embarrassing. And it's not awesome to see when you get home from a date.

But why is that something that you're just calling it good on?

Oh, can you imagine like we're talking for hours. We're flirting. I'm smiling at him

and telling him stories. We're gazing into each other's eyes across a candle like

table. And the whole time I've let it to my teeth. And he didn't help me. Like for me,

that's just like not the kind of person I hang out with. I want to hang out with someone

who's going to tell me about lettuce in my teeth. What if he didn't see it?

Then he's blind. That's not possible. And if he really, really didn't, then he's not

observant and I still don't want to deal with someone like that. But I find it really

hard to believe he didn't see it. I know it sounds silly, but I get you, girl.

I get like that in the studio some time. I noticed I have food in my teeth and jubilant

Victoria didn't tell me. Hey, man, we didn't see that. Yeah, there's a lot of times I don't see it.

Okay. So maybe we can see it.

Hey, Morgan, that's Ryan. He's actually on the phone listing and wants to talk to you by the

one. Hey, uh, I'm sorry. This is about lettuce in your teeth. Yeah. Oh my god. Well, so, but

hold on. You're telling me one story. It's not a random flip up. That's a violation of my trust.

It indicates who you are. You're like bearing your soul to me. I'm supposed to stop you and

be like, Hey, your mouth looks like a compost bin. Oh, gosh.

Yes, because one of your knockouts out by that problem. And two, yes, you're supposed to have

some inside so they don't make a fool of themselves. I don't know what else you're keeping from me.

I don't want to move forward. This is like some sort of a test or something.

Yeah, China. No, yeah, hold on. Are you saying you're saying you knew you had food in your teeth

and and waiting for me to change something? Yeah, it's a perfect test. The real ones will say

something. They care enough to say something. They're not trying to be night. I don't want

them to be nice to me. I want someone to be real with me. You put the food in your teeth on

purpose. Yeah, yeah. Oh, this is. That is first of all, that is so manipulative. I don't

really even know what to say. That's, you know what? I'm the perfect. Look, when

you remind you, we're talking about this on the radio show. So I feel like my assessment of

you is correct. I cannot believe this is happening. Second of all, I do this on every gate

and it hasn't failed me. You know what? I put a little bit of like a leaf, a little bit of something

deliberately leave it there. If they call it out, they pass. If you let me walk around,

you can just say, hey, Morgan, your teeth look like a salad bar. We'd be going out.

Yeah, I feel like we've been planning we can get away. I think you really seriously need

therapy and a toothpick. I feel like it's a reflection of your character. You can say that

I'm insane. But knowing that you left me like that for hours, it feels like the whole thing

was fake and it's very embarrassing for me. Cool. Well, next time I'll carry dental floss and

one of those little bibs they give you when you're getting your teeth cleaned.

There's not going to be a next time because I'm carrying dental floss is about being honest

to my face. Are you sure Morgan? Do you want another day with Ryan? We'll pay for it.

No, no, I think I think I'm good because you're telling me you're running psychological experiments

on the menu, go to dinner with. You're I'm good. This is

I'm like, you can see the bottom of this. It's a new kind of test.

The thing is I would never do that to you. I would have your back. So you can see it as a

manipulation, but it's sort of like it's a right of passage. It tells me what I need to know.

I'm not a manipulative person in general. So you think you're fake. You're fake with me.

Good luck. Sorry, Ryan and Morgan, thank you very much.

Thank you. I've been too lucky.

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