Brian Posehn – The Big Bang of Bert Kibbler

0:00TALKY'S CHERICO BABY TALKY'S CHERICO TALKY'S CHERICO BABY TALKY'S BABY TALKY'S BABY Alright, welcome to talk his Jericho to the part of Thunder and Rock and Roll and let's see what Duff McKagan has for us this fine Friday with the highly anticipated Duff McKagan Joke! WEEK Chris Jericho Duff McKagan here, hope you're doing well and everybody out there is doing well Listen, this old guy, just outside of Dublin, goes into a new bar Barthenders there, it's the middle of the day, there's nobody there Old guy says, I'll have three points Barthenders says, three points, you want one at a time? No, three points All the same time, three points Barthenders, well if I bring you one at a time, they're going to be fresher No, three points Okay, bartender, brism, three points, the old guy drinks them down

1:00Leaves, next day comes in, three points Okay, you want three points, bring them three points Does this every day for a week, finally the bartenders after a week says, look I know you've been coming in here, three points all the same time But I'm just want to try to convince you, if I bring them to you one at a time, they're going to be fresher I pull them from the tap, you know No, it's not that, I have two brothers, they live abroad And I drink two points for them and one for myself and then I'm gone Bartender says, okay, sure, sure, sure, bring them three points The guy comes in for another week every day, same time, nobody's there, three points One day he comes in, I'll have two points The bartender says, oh no, to himself One of his brothers, something happened to one of his brothers He's got no like this guy And he's taking interest in his life and he brings two points over And he goes, I'm sorry, there's something happening to one of your brothers Oh no, they're still fine, they're abroad, you know I quit drinking

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4:00And why the internet apparently thinks Brian Poussain is responsible for starting all the Nickelback hate Plus you know we're talking metal Bay Area Thrash with Talika Talking about Aaron Mead and Sabre Thrush and Thrax And the concept that actually brought Brian to tears is a fellow Metalhead So here we go, Brian Poussain returns right here right now to talk is Jericho Alright, so here with Brian Poussain And we haven't seen each other in person in a while But I'm driving in Hollywood a couple of weeks ago Kind of down Sunset Strip Area And here on the billboard Stuart Fales to save the universe, Brian Poussain on the billboard You finally made it Dude, in Hollywood It's so crazy I've been banging around for a while So it's not lost on me, it's really cool It is cool, it's funny because you know in this day and age with you know social media and all the platforms and everything

5:06Still seeing your face on an old school billboard You got to pull over and take the picture of it right? Oh we did, I went by myself, well with my wife and she was loving it And then I went with the whole cast too And we took a picture of the four of us next to it And the best was it dude jogging by, it was so LA I was like I'm loving the show man and it was just like it is so perfect So let's talk about this Like you mentioned you have been banging around for a while And you've done a lot of great stuff but it's like this show here You're one of the featured kind of lead cast members in a lot of ways Yeah, the main four They're down the call sheet It was very surreal And you know I feel totally blessed and just like I think it's better actually my wife and I were talking about it that I did Work so hard to get here because it's I wouldn't say I feel like earned it but it feels great And if I was in my 20s or 30s I might not appreciate it

6:10Get it, appreciate it as much Yeah, you know Yes, one of those things I always analyze a friend of mine was in the NHL for years His name is Theron Flurry And he played for the Calgary Flames and he won a Stanley Cup in his very first season when he was 18 years old And then never won another Stanley Cup again He's just like I just thought that's how it was You just won a Stanley Cup and you just keep winning them But if you work as hard like you mentioned to get to the Stanley Cup You probably appreciate it so much more Yeah, absolutely So talk about this kind of how this show came to be Because you're playing the same character that you played in Big Bang Theory Yeah, so you know it's a proper spin-off but it's unlike most spin-offs It's totally different from the original show It's not at all you know we didn't it's not in front of a live audience Well people used to think that the old show Big Bang Theory had a laugh track But that wasn't true that was Okay Knows like 200 people that were stoked to be there every week

7:10You know especially as that show went on People would plan trips from the Midwest to come out and go to tapings of that show And see it yeah And then ours is we're more like a film like we shoot Right And an episode takes like eight days to shoot the whole thing And you know we're on different sets every day And you know there was like a lot of physicality Which I wasn't prepared for at this age Like it's like you have to say in the action star now Yeah man we had to run we ran in every episode I was on Wires one episode I wore a bald cap and the one last night was we did a matrix thing So we had to be in those pods And they had to build a pod for my big ass which was even You like nine feet tall in the pod Yeah Yeah So it's much more it seems like it's got the science fiction elements Like we mentioned it's almost like a star wars type of a field Or game of thrones or something like that

8:10Yeah exactly Or like a Marvel show And the way they pitched it to me was Well I had never really talked to our show writer Chuck Laurie You know he's always seemed too busy for me to you know the rest When I was just a you know a guest star on the old show And I did 15 episodes of the old show But I still never felt like I could talk to anybody there I was always like you know I felt like the low guy on the totem pole And just you know do my bit and leave And so when he called Chuck Laurie called me like two and a half years ago saying You know I got this spin off idea I was totally blown away like my wife had to get me to pick up the phone Because I'm like Chuck Laurie's on my phone And she's like you should probably answer it Idiot You're one of those rare guys and I say this in the ultimate of compliment It's like you play the same type of guy in every role that you play

9:13But it always works but it's always like here's Brian Poussin And it's like now you're in just shoot me and now you're in sign field And now you're in big bang and Stewart I mean it's great how you've been able to do that You created one guy that's got the market for anybody that needs a guy like this I like to think that they're slightly different each character But yeah I get what you're saying no it does seem like I'm getting to be me in most of these parts Right getting to be you exactly Yeah yeah It's crazy I feel really lucky and that I've been able to you know And on so many shows that I respect and but to finally get one where we're you know me and these other three people are the stars It's been because we're all kind of the same way we're all you know with the Right Lauren's the youngest among us but the other two guys are right around my age And have been in LA as long as I have and like we've known each other Kevin did like 50 or so episodes of the old show

10:13Or maybe even more Right But yeah it's so cool So when they're pitching the concept of the show you mentioned them when you finally pick up the phone When Chuck Lori's there is he explaining to you that it's going to be different from what you guys are used to with the big bang They didn't really like you know I keep I don't like to I don't want to throw them under the bus but no we were not really prepared Well when we started to read the scripts we kind of had to figure it out on our own like Yeah And we started a text chain really early the other three actors and where we're going like holy crap Look at what we're doing but Chuck never said he just said you know it's a multiverse show He had kind of gone into that he goes it's not like the old show you know you're going to be in different universes And then once I heard the title Stuart fails to save the universe I was like and that's we deliver on that title every week Every universe we go through we ruin And it's it's a lot like Rick and Morty really Okay Rick and Morty kind of every place they go is worse after they leave

11:16Right right right So it's kind of like that you know there's a lot of similarities with that show But live action obviously So but it's like it's like a different scenario every week that you guys kind of go into different universes sort of a thing Yeah the first the first week we were in post-apocalyptic the second week was a AI universe where all our thoughts are controlled or you know You can't speak your mind and that kind of thing and we have these little buzzers on the back of our necks And that was super fun to play with and then the third week was Bert was magic my character Science there was no science in that world it was all magic It was a magic universe and I got to destroy Will Wheaton which is a dream of mine so Yeah, yeah, it was super fun and then last night was the Insane Asylum Week And every week that was something totally different and so fun as actors to play with so different from any job I've ever done

12:19You know Right well like I said just mentioned we're seeing it in the trailer of you running and you know there's an explosion behind you And it's very much the action hero era of your career Yes Like I won't say how old I am but Holder mature You're more mature More well-seasoned is this the best term you know Yeah, yes, yes sure All right football is back baby and prize picks is a killer deal for you if you download the app and use my code Jericho And if you win your first five dollar lineup you get a hundred and fifty bucks instantly in line ups I just started using prize picks for football and it's making the games even more fun because now I'm following What my guys are doing like Kyler Murray I mean that's one of my guys this year he's got to come up big for me I hope so he just joined Minnesota after spending his first seven years in Arizona So my wife and my son and I are hoping for big things And I'm thinking this dude is something to prove is the entire team of Minnesota does

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14:25Yeah, well, I mean we can't control how it's how it's viewed it's a weird thing But it's not that different from you know shooting streaming to shooting the old school way Yeah, I mean this show is different if we didn't have all the post production Because that's the strangest thing about this show is we shot it in January or we finished in January But it had so much post production sitcoms are not like that sit the turnaround is like a week or two weeks Right the weirdest thing is like they're still Nielsen ratings and that kind of thing It's really hard to know like how many people are seeing it So you kind of just right with streaming you kind of it literally feels like everything's just kind of pushed out there And you hope people find it and you hope people have HBO Max and check it out It's interesting because our show with AW Dynamite is on HBO Max as well Right, but you never know what the ratings are like they never tell you So like you mentioned is there a million people watching is there 20 we don't know

15:27Well, we just we just heard we're getting we're doing a season two I think I can announce that here so yeah, I think they're gonna be come out officially But like we had no idea but I was kind of basing it on what my social media response was So how many people were on my Instagram and just already in the last month Like I have so many new people following me so most of the responses were positive I try not to read stuff about that especially right yeah It's probably gonna be the most L.A. thing I've ever said but my therapist told me to stop reading What people say about me Ain't that the truth though? So L.A. but yeah, but it's true We cook well for every positive I'm sure you do this with wrestling too Oh man For every guy that loves you you probably focus on the dude who really really hates you Especially when I'm live when I go out when I'm doing stand up

16:28I don't know why my brain does this but I will find the person in the room who likes me the least I'll look at them I'll look at their arms crossed I'll look at them shaking their head like that wasn't funny You know and then they get in they don't get in my head because I'm a pro But the fact that I even let them live in my brain at all says something What you got to be careful now Absolutely you can't be going and reading the comments because they will drag you down Yes, you can't let that shit get to you ever but some people do especially when you've been around for a while because there's always going to be people like Oh, this guy's back again. He was washed up and just shoot me or whatever I can't Right right right Let's talk about how you first ended up coming to L.A. Because you did have a real interesting start with Mr. Show And that group of comedians that you all kind of came out at the same time And all of you have become big stars and still working regularly all these years later

17:30Yeah, I mean that that whole thing is just crazy and I think Bob and David every day for you know I owe so much to those guys but that was just making comedy with my friend and then you know we happen to get an HBO show But it was I moved to L.A. to act and to write fell in with those guys I knew David Cross through stand up he was coming to San Francisco all the time in the early 90s And we had like you know a really cool scene up there so everybody was coming in it you know just to hang in SF Right Two sets and then go have the best Chinese food you've ever had in your life And you know it was a fun city to hang out and so that was like a big thing and we met through there And then I met Odin Kirk right after I moved L.A. Do you remember the old Virgin records? Yes You're a music guy I used to go I used to love that old Virgin records on sunset Yes And I met him in there and friends ever since and it's so crazy that we're all you know 40 years later

18:35Right right right Did you think that Odin Kirk was going to become I mean he never think but I mean just he's done so much From the acting side of things serious acting it's it's kind of great to see his transition Yes I'm the guy I'm the guy that always believed in him I'm his biggest fan for real Right Bob's like the funniest smartest dude I've ever worked with by far You know in comedy a lot of people throw around genius and I I've only worked with one genius and that was him Really Yeah he's like the smartest dude in the room and plus he's done it for so long Like already when he was on Mr. Show he had already done SNL so he knew how sketch has worked and he knew What he wanted to accomplish in sketch writing and so I learned so much from him He was like you know a dumbass kid with an attitude I thought I was the funniest dude in the room And he proved to me that he was the funniest guy in the room and the smartest dude and I'm still learning stuff from him

19:39He's been like the bigger supporter of this too of like because he knows how lucky you can be if you you know you hit something this way in your career You know he did that with better call Saul and you know now he's doing action movies His reaction movies out now and that's so crazy I never thought that would happen When this started to come together for me he was like congrats man and you know coming from him that it couldn't have meant more Did you start doing stand-up before you came to LA and to write? So yeah so I started stand-up this really aged me 1987 in Sacramento, California A tiny bar called the Metro bar in grill it was an abacement of a dance club of all things So there would be like Susie and the banshee is playing really loudly while we're in abacement doing you know dick jokes It was really crazy that's where I started and moved to San Francisco

20:41Well moved LA broke my back and then moved back in with my mom and restarted with the I'm gonna get serious about stand-up comedy And so I moved to San Francisco in early 90s and that's when I met Pat Naswald and all those guys And then that's when I hooked up with the Mr. Show guys and moved to LA in 94 never left No when you see you broke your back was that figuratively or literally? Oh no dude I had a really crazy thing in my early 20s I Day drinking and stupidity and I jumped off a lifeguard tower I was living down in Long Beach and it'd been trashed We drank like I think it was like 14 hours and it was two in the morning I'd been going since noon Went to this lifeguard tower with a couple of buddies We were drinking up on the lifeguard tower with a backpack full of beers And then we jumped off the tower and I landed wrong did a compressed fracture my L3 vertibray

21:44Paralyzed I was paralyzed for 10 days Wow yeah wow And then lived in Oswald for three months and then had to rehab on my own because I didn't have insurance Oh my gosh Yeah I was in an old folks home because I was living out the state basically and it was pretty depressing And my mom came and got me once I was able to walk again and had to teach myself to walk again with a wheelchair And it was brutal and I made like a calendar I won't get too depressing but it was like can't wait to get out of this place It was literally the only person who was ever going to walk again I was in a spinal cord injury place And I was the only patient that was going to walk and then I went to an old folks home to do my rehab and recovery And then I moved back to Sonoma kind of started over when I worked at a record store again and did the whole thing Doing stand up at night and kind of get back on my feet and got another car and like restarted life

22:50That's crazy because 10 days paralyzed usually if you don't have your faculties back within a day or two that means you're done Yeah they didn't know what was going to happen my mom passed out and broke her hand because these doctors told her your kids probably not going to walk again And she was in Northern California while I'm in LA in Oswald also Oh my gosh Totally helpless and I was raised by single mom so she yeah that was my only parent But you got you got through it obviously got through like yeah, yeah, and it was one of those things I was laying there just miserable going Man I got a second chance and I have to do this the right way so when I started stand up again I drink occasionally but not like yeah, I've never done anything stupid again since then you know that's If you live if you live through something like that it's a good it's a big wake up call for you know that'll shake you up G'day I'm Justin Wolffers host of the platypus economics podcast if there's one thing I've learned from a career teaching economics

23:54It's that your life is shaped by economic currents you'll never see a single price tag can explain things a thousand experts can't People who understand economics they make better decisions in their careers their finances their relationships and their communities And I want that for you listen to and follow platypus economics available now wherever you get your podcasts Do you find like with your interesting look I mean you mentioned a tall you are and just kind of the vibe that you have Did that help you when you first came into Hollywood and help you in stand up or did it did it hinder you it helped definitely I mean the fact that I had a character you look right I didn't even move here to act I moved here to write really I was That's what drew me to stand up but I love performing but my favorite part is the Joe Kraft hang and I'm a nerd And I'm nerdy about that kind of I'm nerdy about comedy and that was the first thing and like I moved here to write comedy

24:54I was working on an MTV show they put me on as a performer too and I was like oh this is cool but with no like hey I'm going to be a sitcom star I never never ever thought like that you know and then the first audition I got it was I had just done it was 94 95 And remember that show empty nest yes, so this casting woman I didn't know how any of that worked my manager I already had a manager at the time and he's still my manager which is crazy yeah but he's like hey this casting woman just saw you Where I meant the improv backstage and she comes back and goes hey I work on the show empty nest can you come in tomorrow in audition for this part And I said yeah absolutely and I went in and it went well and then she goes hey what do you do in tomorrow and I go well this show But the way she put it I was like you know I'm quick it seems like you're asking me to do this show and she goes yeah and you know and I

25:59I didn't even know anything about it like the first time I went on the sitcom set I was hanging out with the extras And the background people and then we started to run the scene and I've got dialogue and they're like dude you're not a background person I go I guess I don't know They're like you're an actor man you've got lines go stand over there don't sit with us I had no idea on how anything worked and in the fact that I got like my first audition and then booked it Yeah that's the rare thing that's a real thing so many people would kill me for that right let me throw this at you though I'm looking at your career Filmography here within the course of like three years you're on friends everybody loves Raymond news radio sign felt Yeah I mean come on man that's a crazy run and this is just very early in your career Yeah that felt cool I mean yeah I did almost every 90 sitcom there's a few that I didn't you know I'll have like people go hey were you on Drew Carey

27:04I'm like no that's the one I wasn't on smart ask yeah do you remember those like let's talk about let's say friends and signfield The biggest shows of all time at that time and even to this day Who's your thoughts about that friends I had nightmares before I went in really Yeah so I got the part I feel like I auditioned for that when a lot of those shows I started to get because they would write stuff for me Or like news radio they wrote apart for me and Bob and David to come in so we got we got to do a lot of that through Mr. Show And that's how a lot of the writers on different sitcoms knew who I was was through Mr. Show because that became a show that every Hollywood guy watched and wish they were done you know Right right but with friends I don't remember how I got there but I remember having in pasta syndrome I was freaking out that I was gonna forget my lines and I had a dream that I got on stage and just completely blanked

28:08Once I got there it was nothing like that once I got there I had confidence but but they at home sitting in my apartment I was like oh dude Right you could fuck this up easily but in reality I had three lines and I nailed them and you know and it had fun doing it Signedfeld was one where I had to jump through whoop a little more it was my third audition for them Are you a signfeld fan? Yes sir So you remember when they had the doppelgangers when when Kramer had a guy that looked like so I auditioned for Kramer Look alike or Kramer doppelganger because it was a Superman thing it was Bizarre Bizarre world yeah so I went out for Bizarre Kramer didn't get it but Jerry was always in the room on those auditions Which was so rare like the mostly it would be the show runner but not really the star of the show in the auditions ever And he was always in those auditions

29:08Just thing Yeah super cool and he like talked to me during those he was like hey you're a comedian right It was so off-putting because no one ever does that you like you just go in and do your thing They're like robots you can barely get any response Yes You have no idea like sometimes I'll be talking to my agent on the phone going I have no fucking idea if I did good or bad Or I have no idea and there you always knew how you went how you did And I always did well and that one he goes hey we love you you may not get this but keep coming And that was like the cool one of the coolest things anybody at that level ever ever said to me And that kept me going sure you feel like you're in a vacuum you have no idea if you're funny or not till you get those parts Till you book something you don't know I know exactly how you feel the last part that I got is actually a pretty good part When I did the audition same as what you just said I walked out of like well I'm not getting that one

30:12There's no way like there was zero reaction just like thank you and you're like well okay So to get that sort of feedback especially from Jerry himself Yeah and I already looked up to him you know like our standup was so different but he's one of the guts Sure of course Undeniable you have to give it up to that guy and especially then he was the king of TV in the 90s And it was the final season once I finally booked it That was the third audition I went in on and it went really well And then it showed up on the set and he was so cool They always overshot and he told me that so I shot a couple of scenes that were never shown on the show But he goes we love you you might get some stuff cut and even that like no one ever tells you Mm-hmm It was very cool whenever I hear people like shit talk about that guy I'm like that was not my experience Like my experience with him is he was like a straight-up dude very very cool and very respectful to other comedians

31:16I'm remembering the part that you did was it was a Kramer and I was like Mickey And the age of one of you guys had to play a disease or something was Yes so we were getting extra money such a scumbag plot Yeah but I mean his plots were always so funny But his scam was him and the little guy Danny Woodburn was the actor's name Yeah Those two guys read NYU with med students pretending that they had ailments for the med students to guess what was wrong with them And then he had gone a rea and he wanted to switch Kramer wanted to switch with me and he goes what's yours and I go doctor left to sponge in me That's my line that made it but I had a couple of scenes That's great man but still once again to say that you're on all those shows what's that? Just getting to be on those shows yeah it was so cool So what was kind of like your first big break besides obviously Mr. Show is the one but that was kind of more behind the scenes with some of the sketches

32:17But then you do a lot of the of the sitcoms of what was the one that you finally broke through and thought this is my big break here? Just getting to do as many just shoot me as I did Right In the late 90s that was a big one whenever you do guest stars on these sitcoms They'll always say or at least to me you know they'll go hey we'd love to have you back You know and I'm always like yeah sure See you then Yeah I'll count on it I'll be sitting by the phone And because most of the time it's an empty thing and but that was one where they said hey man We'll have you back and the same with same with big bang big bang when I did the first one It wasn't even named Bert he was just some weird dude that worked at Caltech But we just shoot me they started writing more and Actually knew the writers back then and that was a fun gig and me and spade out of blast and You know I felt like part of the family on that one that was and to get to start as a you know a walk on and then to get to do

33:2020 or 30 however many I did was pretty cool So that was the that was the big and then also the Sarah's government program like having a comedy central show that I was one of the stars of although you know it was Sarah carrying the weight but I got to play whenever pals But Sarah was also involved with with Mr. Show as well she was kind of in that gang with you guys wasn't she was yeah for sure and then Pat Noswald and I had written a pilot for comedy central with her too many years ago way before even the Sarah's government show So when you're writing if just to talk quickly about Mr. Show again when you're writing the sketches for that does it get competitive in the room with the other guys And how do you get your I mean it's like SNL I'm sure how do you get your sketch approved to be on the show So I've been told from other people that worked with me that I was the squeaky wheel and I think that's how like you got to be the most vocal

34:23You got to be fighting all the time for your sketches like I said I learned from Bob on how to write or how to be a more productive writer Because some of the things you can do is you can shoot somebody's sketch down you can go wow that sucked after they read it right yeah But you're not being productive when you do that so the way to do it you got to learn to be critical in a helpful way you know so if you go hey man I didn't really get that but what if you did this you know so I see you kind of learn your way around the room of you got to have constructive criticism But then also have a way out you know to go well if you're gonna say that sucked right what if we did this that would this make this better you know what I mean so you got to learn to look at things better and be more helpful really Because it's not helpful to just go that stupid your idea is shitty Yeah, I learned that even from from Vince McMahon and debit it yeah, don't say it sucks and not have an alternative right go in there with like how about that's one idea how about this idea okay

35:35And that's kind of how you can kind of work together in the team scenario because yeah telling some of the things sucks Then really help anybody no and I learned that I mean I would make enemies and be the guy in the room but then I learned You know eventually it was really young when I first did that show but I feel like if I was on a show now as a writer I would handle it so differently because of Bob and you know what I learned as a self-proclaimed nerd Actually, there's another kind of an action scenario when you're in the Mandalorian as the pilot which I remember seeing there he is as the saying is there too you're everywhere That must have been a cool one though to be on that show absolutely and to be a Star Wars fan My whole life and then dick well there was years that I wasn't a Star Wars fan because I'm that kind of nerd you know the critical kind of shit Yeah, so but they won me back and then also I love the Mandalorian so to be part of the world that I actually like it was super fun

36:38So I had a sign and non disclosure thing my favorite part of it was I did it about six months before it aired maybe more maybe longer And when it aired I hadn't told anybody because I was told not to you know so my wife knew I was in it my son knew I was in it We went to the premiere and that that was really cool for him that's still one of the coolest things I ever did you know in his eyes Right I don't know if you know this but they say that I'm responsible for all the Nickelback hatred if you look on Reddit Why because I was the first guy to shit on them on tough crowd on calling Quins old comedy central show So I made fun of them before anybody so I'm even in the Nickelback documentary they mentioned they show me you know they go American comedian started Shitty got us and then they show my dumb face so my son most proud things for him is that I shit on Nickelback and I was in the Mandalorian

37:40But none of my friends none of my friends knew till it aired and it aired and everybody was watching it so all my friends that night was blowing up my phone going dude how'd you get that you know yeah It was so cool my my claim to fame for my son is that I was on hot ones Oh and that's Snoop Dogg follows me on Instagram so that's how my cool like yeah right right right It's like those random things yeah it's not even big bang or the thing or you know the fact that you were the champ Nothing you're nothing yeah don't record on the wall don't care yes oh wow yeah that's all you thumbs up yeah that's hilarious I love the fact that you can take the credit for for the Nickelback shit on you still do a lot of stand up Consider yourself to be a stand up first and foremost even in this day yeah because that's where I started and I wouldn't have gotten anything if I hadn't first gotten the balls to get on stage and Sacramento and a little club and to say I'm good at this I can do this It takes a lot of false confidence right it'll be it'll be 40 years this year that I've been doing since I've started telling jokes and I still get nervous I still love it I still love coming up with a bit

38:53I love when a joke hits me and I'm like oh shit that's two minutes or that's five minutes of comedy you know yeah yeah it's so fun still so yeah it's my favorite part sitcom acting I love all the other crazy things I've gotten to do you know the my fake metal band and I love all that stuff but when it comes down to it Writing jokes is still the big joy you know it's so much obviously stand up so much in delivery too and you have such a great delivery Because once again you play the character of Brian Pissain the real you turned up to a thousand but that's a delivery that no one else has fair You have created a stand up character for yourself though absolutely but I think yeah that's one thing you find on stage when you're young Well you know it's about being more yourself because when you're first young you don't know you're just writing jokes and you don't know your voice or what's the funniest part about you yet and you kind of find that

39:54Right just through getting up and banging around You mentioned your fake metal band I know obviously you're very much involved in flying the flag for metal You even did this show before I think we did the classic album clash right it was a master yes yes yes What got you attracted to heavy metal back then and to this day why you love it so much as do I It was hard rock and heavy metal you know it's just you can identify with this well I got lucky man like I grew up in like the perfect time to be a metalhead too where like things were changing in the early 80s it was going from bands like Judas Priest to a Metallica and I was in on that Right I was reading the fanzines and living in the Bay Area and aware that all all this stuff was changing but before that late 70s I was a kiss fan I could have gone like in the disco and in crap music because I was so you know I was 9 and 10 years old when I first got into kiss

41:00You're so changeable then you know like anything could send you off in a direction you know what I mean when you're that age Impressionable yes impressionable and I remember getting a Sean Cassidy record for Christmas So my mom got it because she just went you know I was already into kiss but she went to the record store and said hey what's popular this year Yeah so I get that for Christmas and my cousin who is a year and a half older than me he got Led Zeppelin's physical graffiti And you know the double vinyl and we didn't even open my Sean Cassidy because he was like dude that's that's weak that's lame Let's not listen to that so we went to my grandma's turntable on Christmas and listen to Led Zeppelin's physical graffiti and then when I got home Listen to my I returned my Sean Cassidy record to the record store and got in through the outdoor on cassette

42:02And so that was it Led Zeppelin was my second band after kiss and then once I got into Led Zeppelin it was on Scott, ACDC, I went to hell all that stuff And then Van Halen and so by the early 80s I was already like a Michael Shanker fan I was into accept and Raven all that stuff and triumph and rush then Metallica You know and killers are still one of the records where I was like oh okay yeah that's what I love making the step from Van Halen to killers you know was like it's a leap Yeah because it was quite a bit heavier even lyrical content was so different was not about partying and girls and beautiful girls It's about murders in the room or yeah and when you first hear that shit rap child you know Yes, man, yeah, but that's cool that you grew up in the Bay Area right when Thrash was taking flight

43:05Yeah, I feel real lucky for that too and then but I also liked I liked a lot of the sunset strip bands too that I think you like Yeah, I mean I heard dock and it was like holy shit At the same time I liked Metallica, but I also like George Lynch guitar solos and shit was like I didn't know that I could only like one Nobody had told me that yet like you can't like thrashing then also like you know mainstream sunset strip I hate the term glam rock Because that's not exactly what that was glam rock is more no more hand my rocks and you know you know your shit Well glam rock to me is early 70s bowing slaves right right exactly yeah, but people throw those terms around and yeah, they don't know exactly there You know you and I know our shit. So that's right. That's right. Did you did you go to any early Metallica gigs or ecstasy they root these in and all those places I did yeah, so I went I saw violence. I said death angel. I went I suffered bitten test demand

44:08Mid-mid-late 80s I got into all that stuff and it was right there like you could go to the army and Oakland and see test demand Yeah, their shows are insane. Right. I only went to one Ruthies. I was sort of the tale. I was sort of late for that it was like right at the end of that. Was it cool for you as your career started to expand? Cause I know it has for me and you get to meet and become friends with you know some of the bands that you listen to and liked and now they're just your buds. It's kind of cool when you can get over the hump of oh my gosh, it's so and so and realize that it's just the dude with a cool job like you have where I have. Yeah, well now now it's been so long, but yeah when that first happened it was super weird to go wait now I know Chuck Billy I used to just look at that dude from you know the back of the crowd going he's a metal god and now he's my friend It's super surreal and I am friends with most of those guys now and like the first big one was anthrax yeah where I was such an insane anthrax fan because they had a sense of humor of the big four they were the most like me like they wore jams and they were high tops.

45:25Yeah, but then they were wear shorts with it and that's how I dressed and you know and I would have an Exodus t-shirt with super colorful stupid shorts. Oh, they were also the first band that had the rap rock element first band. Absolutely, yeah. All guy first band that had a beard guy. I mean they think of all the things they started that's just a normal thing is nowadays. Well, right, but even seeing Scott wearing a public enemy t-shirt when I was into that and so many metalheads weren't so to see somebody else get into hip hop at the same time that I was into hip hop that's what made me like an anthrax fan for life. And the fact that they wrote lyrics about student kings on of course and judge dread and you know all that stuff I was like oh my god this band is for me. Yeah, they still read comic books and I love Metallica and obviously we you and I have talked about but anthrax I felt like I connected more because they were we had so many you know of the same likes.

46:25Yeah, seemed a little more accessible maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as we start to wind down Brian, I mean you've done so many cool things and. So many great parts was again being a working not just actor but comedian and and comic writer and and you musician and all these other things. What are some of your favorite projects? Maybe it's an acting role or maybe it's a book that you wrote a comic book that you feel that maybe didn't get the spotlight that some of your other other roles have. I wrote two comics last year for image one that some or people got into is about skateboarding in the 80s called grommets and if you haven't checked that out I really was happy with the way that came out the art was amazing but then also. It really nailed that feeling of being a misfit kid in the 80s and being the one kid wearing the red lightning shirt. I was that dude and so that that was a cool comic to have out in the world but I wrote this thing called rifters last year too that's slept on we made six issues and they didn't sell it on grommets did very well but rifters not so well and I hope people check it out it's time travel but mixed with like a dick wall food police procedural.

47:44During a covid I was watching a ton of dick wall shows you know like FBI and that kind of thing yeah and I love watching a dick wall show because when it ends you can yell dick wall. And my wife will get your idiot guilty is charged. Fair enough but yeah so I took these I took those two ideas of like what if you had time cops but they're kind of lower end time cops and they they're dealing with like influencers like going back and drawn dicks on Abraham Lincoln and stuff you know that kind of thing. That's great man. Last few questions for you what's your favorite thing what reprise in the birth character in Stewart almost saves the universe or fails to save you know the fact that he gets to do more the fact that it's not you know that I'm not just saying a joke and leaving that I get to carry the story it's just it's cool to be the star of something as opposed to a lesser walk on character and let Bert have his day and let geology rock geology he says yes yeah yeah who's your last question your your top three favorite metal bands.

48:55God number three is going to be hard it's made in Metallica and then let's go Sabbath. Alright yeah I mean you can't go wrong right you can't yeah yeah yeah you can go see Metallica this fear I am yeah and then I'm also psyched rush announced they're going to do this fear have they announced officially they've said that they yeah that they're circling that so yeah I want to see Metallica there but I saw rushed twice on this new tour and it is you know it like we're talking metal and they I've never considered them metal metal elements for sure I'm a massive rush. Yeah and getting to see those two guys talk about somebody in your career later in your career you know I think those guys thought they were done. Oh yeah and to see them you know having fun again I recommend it it's life affirming to go see rush live and to see them with this kick ass drummer and those two guys are in their senior years and they're having a blast every night and to see getty smiling

50:00and jumping around and were you at the forum. Yeah I went to the first night. I was there too. Oh sweet that show is amazing like I took my it took my son took my wife took my high school friend that we saw Grace under pressure together. That's great. So it was really great. The thing that I loved about it too though Brian was like you know last few tours prior to it's a neil passing. Getting his voice was getting a little bit thin fine no problem no it's done that he's back to be really. He sounds better than he did 12 years ago. I saw the last show they did at the forum when you know 12 years ago and and then see the first show again his voice sounded 100 times better it was insane. Yes the fact that he was having so much fun but then also like could hit those parts again I was just like oh my god I was tears like it was such a moving night for me and then I didn't have tickets for the third night but I immediately I got home that night and bought a ticket online to go see him again.

51:06And then see a totally new set list to that was yeah yeah well do this great talking to you man once again congratulations on always great to talk to you man. I'll put in yeah next time I go to the billboard on sunset I will take a selfie with it right on dude see it show sometimes too. Yeah absolutely man cheers Brian thanks.