Bride Of Charlie: The Lost Years... | Episode 5

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, the players are now in place.

You know who the cast of characters are.

It is definitely time for us to begin pulling it all together for you on a neat timeline.

Erica's missing years.

Where is she?

She in Eastern Europe.

Why was she ever in Eastern Europe?

Also, is it possible that Laurie, her mom was in Afghanistan?

Is Laurie actually a direct descendant of Vince Lombardi?

I actually think she is.

Also, we've got Tyler Boyer out in Romania now too.

What exactly goes on in Romania?

What goes on in Eastern Europe?

What is everybody doing there?

We have a lot to unpack today, so let's jump right in.

Welcome back to Bride of Charlie.

We have nothing to hide.

Okay, so we left you guys off at Tesaract, right?

Erica's at Tesaract, formerly the looking glass school.

I cannot get enough of that.

What goes on in Arizona?

Now at the time, of course, this was a brand new concept.

Tesaract charter schools, private companies coming into run schools, better, it's going

to be funded with obviously government budgets, but they are going to do it better and

produce better results.

Tesaract, we have learned, is backed financially by the Bush family, the Walton family,

a model that's been designed by psychologists, alongside Dr. Franspastine.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Or maybe better questions, what could possibly go right with this cast of characters?

Now I had alluded to you that Dr. Jerry conducts a lot of research.

They had to give her her own research center, gender clinic, gender center, for the beehive,

by the way, under the guise of exploring issues related to feminism and gender studies,

Jerry Fransvay travels.

She travels abroad a lot, and particularly, in particular, pardon, she travels to Eastern

Europe.

With a team to research gender issues in 1990, take a look at this.

Wow.

According to Fransvay, the final big project of the semester, this is at Radford, will

be taking a group of students to Eastern Europe.

We will research the expectations of men and women as work life and day-to-day life change

after the wall came down.

Really?

Imagine your kid goes to the school and the teacher is going, we're going to go

at 1990 to Eastern Europe after the wall came down.

The fall of the Berlin wall, you're just going to jump right in there.

Do you understand what happened after that?

Chaos.

That's what happened.

Chaos and carnage.

Again, why would you take students there to research gender issues?

Do we think that gender issues are ranking high in the minds of those Eastern Europeans?

For clarity, as soon as the Berlin wall fell, the intra-Eastern European wars began,

right?

The Yugoslav wars, bloody brutal.

That began same year, August of 1990, when Fransvay is going out there, Dr. Fransvay

is going out there, so I have to ask myself, what is she actually doing?

Let me enter this into the conversation.

Are you guys aware of how many children go missing during times of war?

From all that chaos, how many kids are trafficked during the fog of war?

Now I know this because one of my best friends in college was Romanian.

She grew up with real gypsies, grabbing children off the street.

She would tell me a story about how she was almost trafficked when she was a child, and

it makes you wonder where exactly when they are taking these children, where exactly

are they taking these children to?

How could that go unnoticed?

I still will feel the sway about Dr. Fransvay.

I will state this unequivocally.

I don't think Dr. Jerry Fransvay, who is a verifiable fraud, was there in Eastern Europe

researching gender issues.

May she rest in peace?

But that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

I should also mention that Tessaract had a principle, should actually climb a ladder

at Tessaract, while Erica was a student who had very strong military ties, a woman named

Nancy Gerard, and Nancy Gerard Hall.

She will become.

Nancy was a military brat.

Her father was Colonel Paul Tracy Gerard, who was a member of the Scottish right, a lot

of that going on, a lot of free masonry going on at Fort Levinworth, Kansas, out in Kansas.

He was a part of the Blue Masonic Lodge in Galesburg, Illinois as well.

He was also the chief military law enforcement officer at the Seventh Army in Europe.

In Germany, Stuttgart, Germany, in the 1950s, maybe he knows where Jean-Michel Traugnaut

went.

Maybe they crossed paths.

I don't know.

The point is, as not the only military tie, Nancy's brother Paul Tracy Gerard Jr. would

follow in his father's footsteps.

He was a major in the military in 1977, and I'm sure he continued climbing the ranks

after that, because he was also a member of a military honor society known as Scabbard

and Blade.

That's not it.

Also, her first husband, Stephen Edward Sample, he comes from a long line of military

men himself.

He was a second lieutenant in the Air Force when they married.

So that's Nancy.

She's in charge of the curriculum and much more over at Tesaract.

Now I think it's fair to wonder to speculate whether or not she approached that job with

military precision.

Anyway, let's jump back into our Erica Kirk timelines so we can look at all of this

cleanly.

Okay.

Let's start in 1988.

We know Erica is born on either November 20th or November 22nd, depending on who's

telling the story, who's the clerk.

We don't know.

In 1990, Dr. Jerry Fransvay, and I want to mention this about Dr. Fransvay, I don't know

if she is still married to Kent.

Because we can't find marriage records between Laurie and Kent, but we also could not

locate divorce records between Dr. Jerry Fransvay and Kent.

So I'm just going to put that out there.

But what we do know is 1990, she's going to start conducting research in Eastern Europe.

1991, we've already shown you this.

Erica will attend a private daycare.

That's at the Walnut Corner in Cincinnati, Ohio, which is in a corporate business building

that's owned by child care visions.

We have that photo for you, which was taken Halloween 1991, Erica is on the brink of her

third birthday.

In 1994, Erica is attending Saint Ursula Villa for kindergarten.

That's in 1994, 1995, 1995, Erica is attending the Tesaract school down in Paradise Valley.

That's going to be from her 1995 to 1996 school year.

And her parents, Kent and Laurie allegedly get married that year.

In Marblehead, Massachusetts, although we cannot find a single shred of documentation,

that verifies that.

Does it mean it doesn't exist?

It just means that we haven't come across it and neither have any of our sleuths, and

our sleuths are usually pretty good at that.

96, she is still at the Tesaract school, 98.

She is also at the Tesaract school.

That's the 98 to 99 school year, Erica is in the third grade.

And this is when Laurie and Kent will file for divorce in Cincinnati.

We'll note that Kent is living already in Arizona, and Laurie is listed as living in Cincinnati,

at least if their divorce stocks are to be believed.

Now we should discuss 1999, okay?

Because I was sort of under the impression I indicated to you guys that Erica might have

been enrolled at St. Ursula Villa back up in Ohio from 1999 to 2002, but we stand corrected

on that.

That's not accurate.

People who attended during those years up in Ohio at St. Ursula Villa, they emailed us,

they went through their yearbooks and they said that she is not featured in those yearbooks.

So we don't have Erica from 2000 until 2002.

Now it's possible that she went to a different nearby school in Scottsdale.

So I'm going to put it out again, the little APB here.

If you went to school with Erica Fronzefei anywhere in the United States from the years

2000 to 2002, we would like to hear from you, okay?

We'd like to hear from you.

Now, what we can confirm, and this is where it gets pretty interesting, is that around

this time you will call American men and women are being shipped out to Afghanistan, nobody

really knows why, but operation and during freedom is going to begin.

Don't ask me how or why, if Saudis allegedly drove planes into the World Trade Center,

why are we immediately a couple of weeks later on October 7th, 2001 sending people to

Afghanistan?

It's very confusing.

None of it makes any sense.

Don't try to understand corruption, okay?

It's very dizzying.

But that's what happens operation and during freedom begins, and we should note that

Erica's mother or company, E3Tech, is going to be used for this operation.

That's according to its current website, okay?

E3Tech has a website, and on its website, it tells us that they participate in operation

and during freedom.

And not only that, because don't forget, Lori at some point falls and bumps her head,

and she's Steve Jobs, she takes a Tesla, I don't know, she's just a tech genius, she

is even going to eventually win an award for her contributions to operation and during

freedom.

Did Erica go overseas with her mother during those years, maybe in 2001?

I don't even know if Lori went overseas during those years, I'm just telling you that

according to their own website, E3Tech, they were staged an award for whatever they

were doing for that operation.

We'll leave that open-ended, because we truly do not know.

Okay, so let's get back into our timeline.

Let's take a look at 1999, and we don't know where Erica is for that school year, but

that's going to be the year that Lori files a lot of different companies, corporations,

December 1st, 1999, with the help of Rick and Donna Erpenbeck.

She forms virtual registration, international incorporated, again, indicating that she's

going to be doing some work overseas.

She also forms in telemet, the incorporated on September 24th.

Lori Frantzfe also is going to form in telemet, international incorporated of Delaware on

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Okay, she's getting ready to do business.

Go to year 2000, Tesaract School goes bankrupt, millions are apparently missing.

You don't know where Erica is that year, but you can see for profit, for which drive to

run public schools, it's gone and it just has a full blown meltdown and that ends that.

In 2001, as I mentioned to you, we got 9-11, we have Operation and During Freedom and

Lori's E3 tech company is going to be used for that operation.

2002, we have no idea which school Erica went to, we'd like to find out.

In 2003, Lori Fronsfei forms another in telemet company.

This one is in telemet of Arizona, LLC.

Okay.

She forms that on January 9th.

2005, we've gone over this, now we can document Erica.

She is at Notre Dame, she is playing basketball, she also is in the pageant world.

She wins first, runner up of the National America Miss Arizona pageants, but the most crucial

part of 2005 is what Lori Fronsfei is doing because people have pointed this out, but

there is a relic that shows you that she received money from the government.

I met Laboratories, she's listed in the House Bill budget, she's receiving money from

the Department of Homeland Securities.

I met Laboratories perhaps, we could not find formation docs for that, but we could, maybe

we can assume that that's related to in telemet because she's starting all, it's in telemet

Arizona, in telemet, in telemet, it could be, that could be shortened from in telemet

Laboratories.

Okay, what is she doing for them?

In 2006, we know Erica is going to win the National American Miss Teen Pageant.

She gets that chance to travel and to meet Senator John Kyle.

She also is going to present plans for what nobody knows to rep JD Hayworth and she gets

involved in charity, Andrea's closet, Andrea's closet, which is going to work with the hospital

in Winslow.

We showed you this article, this truly is the best version we could find.

I know it's very smudged, but I wanted to point out to you that somebody emailed me about

this article, Erica sort of tells the story, received an interesting email because we showed

you this article and in this article, I can, I'm going to read for you what it actually

states.

Again, this is Erica speaking.

She says, quote, Winslow has so much character.

We love stopping here and then the writer continues she and her family have come through

Winslow many times on their way to basketball games around the state that she plays in.

The email we received came from a very credible person.

I will leave it at that.

I'm going to protect this person's identity.

They said, that is BS.

That is BS.

They explained to me something I didn't know, maybe you did.

But in the state of Arizona, 80% of the population lives in Maricopa County and the person went

on to say, I'm very familiar with basketball.

I can tell you that's at most because of the way that they structured doing teams and

traveling teams, Erica would at most, if she played for all four years of high school

because Winslow was located three hours, three hours outside of Scottsdale, she would

have only gone to Winslow two times.

So this is just, her mother is involved in this, immediately flagging this as weird.

How did she get involved with this hospital elsewhere?

She says that she also loves to do charity work abroad.

That would imply Erica has already been abroad, right?

She's already been abroad.

So was she with Lori?

Did Lori and her travel to do some stuff with the military?

It's a fair assumption or it's a fair question rather.

They haven't answered our earlier questions.

So probably no chance that they're going to give us clear answers on this either.

We can jump back into our timeline to relevant portions in 2007.

We know she graduates from Notre Dame Prep.

She is Miss America teen.

She begins playing basketball at Regis University.

Marie's AZ Tech International Incorporated is going to be canceled for lack of a tax

filing, but don't worry, she's going to bring it back soon.

We can essentially now jump back into the timeline into 2008 because that's where we really

left off.

Erica's missing.

She's locked away like Cinderella.

She's reading her Bible.

She's only seeing her pastor while at Regis University for that 2007, 2008, school year,

I should mention Erica was majoring in business administration.

That was her major.

That record, that relic of her is still available on the Regis player bio.

It tells us what she was doing, majoring in business administration.

We can assume while she's locked away the following year, or this is a kind assumption that

she continued her studies online, but in the future, she's going to edit and say that

she majored in political science from the beginning.

That's not true.

What we do know for certain is that it's going to take Erica five years to graduate college.

And for some reason, in this year of 2008, worry is going to receive a lot of money from

the Army National Guard.

I met laboratories, again, associated with Lori Fronsfei, is going, the National Army National

Guard, pardon me, is going to have to disclose that they gave $2.4 million to I met laboratories.

Take a look at that.

J3, J6, that's got to do with like cyber security, cyber operations.

So Erica already, her mother, via her mother, who she claims raised her as a single mom,

she didn't, unless maybe her mindset, it was the single mom because Erica was over on

a base with her mother.

But we now know that during this year, this crucial year where Erica is missing, her mother

is going to wind up having received $2.4 million.

I mean, this woman, from a model to a secretary, to now she's getting all this money or tech,

it's interesting.

Let's jump into 2009 because it's a most crucial year.

Things are going to start to get spicy, okay?

So remember, going into this, Lori's already working with the United States military.

She's receiving millions.

Do not forget that.

In 2009, Lori Fronsfei is going to establish everyday heroes like you in April.

In her filing, she will claim that it is a faith-based organization that is raising funds

and developing programs for vulnerable children, okay?

They publish this on initially on July 2nd of 2009.

Okay.

Lori seems a bit busy.

She's already working with the government.

She's maybe in Afghanistan or at least creating tech, what's going to be using Afghanistan

and now, wow, this hero is jumping in and going, I'm going to help vulnerable children.

Why does that make me uncomfortable?

Do I have a right to feel uncomfortable about that?

Do you guys feel uncomfortable about that?

Maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe I'm wrong.

But I think I know about Lori.

I don't love it.

And in October, the same year, right after she established this, it is announced that the

Romanian government has agreed to allow America to set up a military base along the black

sea.

Now, that's the first time things are crazy.

Erica is going to make the claim, by the way, on a future podcast entitled Free Thinkors

Only, that shortly after they established this charity, everyday heroes like you, she's

going to go to China to help women who were sex trafficked, so to be clear.

She established this in 2009.

Her mother established this in 2009.

Where did Erica go to China in 2009?

I want you to listen to Erica in her own words.

Take a listen.

I decided to create something called everyday heroes like you where we're able to, originally,

it was focused on bringing funds and awareness to various grassroots organizations that were

in specific communities that would be able to have volunteers that are transparent with

their funds that are actually doing what they're saying they're doing, instead of just

having 70% of the funds go to admin and only 30% towards the cause.

So really just focusing on making sure there was a home for transparent organizations that

people could learn about, be getting involved with.

But from there, it kind of grew into something more global.

I was living in China and doing a lot of work with the victims from sex trafficking and

then began to phase that into working with the Marine Corps and the Army and then was able

to work with an orphanage in Romania.

So she's clear there.

The heroes comes first.

She goes and she's working with sex trafficking victims in China.

Then she gets this partnership with the Marines and then she goes out and establishes the Romanian

Angels project.

That's what she says then, don't hold Erica to being consistent.

They'll drive yourself crazy.

But we're still in 2009 who knows what's real if that wanted to play it.

What we do know is that Erica shouldn't be in Colorado anymore, even by her own standards

which she says I was there for my first two years of school, once in 2009, she should

not be in Colorado anymore and yet she is going to compete in November for Miss Colorado

2010.

So you compete in the November before.

So you wear the crown for the following year.

So she competes in 2009 for Miss Colorado and she places fourth runner up.

How did she qualify to compete is one of my questions.

Now I'll have you guys know you'll see I added a note here that 2009 that the Romanian

government agreeing to allow America to sub military base.

That's when you start to see Jeffrey Epstein beginning to procure women from Romania per

his emails that are now available.

He's going to instantly get his hands over into Romania.

Look he's offering here is information for the girl from Romania who will receive $10,000.

There have been headlines about how often he refers to Romania throughout his emails.

There is no question.

This headline reads several Romanian women named and newly released Epstein Epstein case

files.

I'll add here also at the number one university that he seems to be involved with is Arizona

state university which Erica will eventually graduate from the purposes of right now.

Just know that Jeffrey Epstein we have emails going back to 2009 right when this base gets

established.

And suddenly he is interested in procuring models from Romania.

Okay.

Lock my into your mind because 2010 is going to get crazy.

This is the year of an Erica will claim that she went to Loyola Meramount in her junior

year of college.

So that's going to be from fall 2009 spring 2010 about we can find her in a yearbook or

graduation list.

No person has come forward yet and said that they remember attending class with her.

But she also could have attended classes online.

I would assume given the amount of travel that she keeps indicating that she probably

did it take a lot of classes online.

So just wanted to show you that this is when she is supposed to be at Loyola Meramount.

On January 6th of this year Jerry Fronsfei creates an LLC called Luminarius with her daughter.

The one that she had when she was 14 Deborah Hemsol she's going to follow Mommy's footsteps

from the very beginning getting into psychology.

It's another charter school company.

Okay.

Now in my mind what I think about charter schools and I had received an article that was written

about the corruption particularly of charter schools in Arizona.

You have to or I had to ask myself what what are they doing with these charter schools?

What would be the benefit of having these charter schools?

Well, while you being in charge of schools you could create records for anybody.

Actually, you would literally be able if you wanted to and you had some people who were

maybe illegal and you needed to get them into school pretty quickly in elementary school

it would be good to control a fleet of charter schools.

I'm not saying that's the case Luminarius group, but I'm finding this theme to be interesting

of charter schools.

And again, you can look up many articles about the corruption of the particularly charter

schools in Arizona, which begins with Tesaract and now it continues to move.

It's an interesting story in November of 2010.

This is where we find Erica filming November Renaissance and they eventually put up a

trailer on Kickstarter.

She in particular is working with a lot of actors, directors, people involved in this

project are affiliated with Fort La Chica and Sierra Vista, like that is an intel base.

How did Erica get this role?

How did this happen?

How was she doing this in addition to her studies?

Maybe she, that's why she takes a year longer to graduate.

I'm not sure, but I'm certainly interested in the fact that this movie, which never came

out, was about corporate espionage spice going into a corporate company, working on behalf

of a global government.

That is a little too on the nose for me.

And again, by this time Erica already has military connections via her mother.

Of course her mother based, by the way, I'm going to assume if you're doing tech and

you're creating tech for the DHS, you're not just doing this from like your basements.

Is that a fair assumption?

I don't know.

We also know that in 2010, Erica forms an LLC with her then boyfriend Tyler Sandford.

It's called Table 4 LLC.

Tyler Sandford will be featured down the line as the actor in her my kind of crazy music

video.

That's just going to film in 2013.

I should also mention that he is a catcher for the Los Angeles, Los Angeles Angels.

Like I've said too many times, Erica is always dating people that have some level of fame

as you will see.

This is the first person.

At the end of 2007, or I should rather say this combination in 2010, pardon me, is crucial

that I about to explain to you.

Laurie suddenly reinstates member, AZ Tech International Incorporated, first gets into a

little bit of trouble because they're not filing other tax returns.

But then Laurie moves to reinstate that in 2010, AZ Tech International, it's back on the

table.

Well, for the first time that year, the Black Sea Rotational Force 10 goes out to Romania

and they established the Miehl, Kogel Nischo, Chono.

I hope I'm saying the right Kogel Nischo, no, probably not air base in Romania.

You can see that here, Marines, sailors and sailors of the Black Sea Rotational Force

2010 officially kicked off their three month engagement in the Black Sea region in a ceremony

that Romania's Miehl, Kogel Nischo, no airfield on May 17th.

Now what's incredibly interesting, and we're going to get more into that in tomorrow's

episode is in particular, a lot of those people are coming from Reno, Nevada, of all places,

coming from Reno, Nevada.

They are, they are the banner that they're using.

They're allegedly there because they're going to promote regional stability.

We have a way with words, I will say, in the last regional stability, spreading democracy.

The reality is that Colonel Otto Buscher is going to be accused of running a brothel and

a human trafficking ring from 2010, the very year that this was established all the way

through 2015.

Yes, Erica, we'll come into contact with Colonel Otto Buscher.

We're not going to focus on that today because the more important thing I'd like to introduce

to you is Tyler Boyer.

Tyler Boyer in 2010, just when this gets established is going to make an appearance in Romania

to work with the Romanian Parliament.

I'm sorry.

What?

He's going to stay approximately from May through to the end of the summer.

This is the exact same time frame at the Black Sea Rotational Force 10 is going to be there,

and here is the proof.

Somebody had vestaged me very early on, it was at the bottom of my inbox and I was saying

I know that he went to Romania and was trying to figure out what he was doing and they were

like, oh, I actually talked to him about that, they were super friendly about it, I talked

to him about that.

And here is the conversation.

Tyler writes, I went to Romania to do some work with the Senator in the Parliament there.

And then he says, and he was friends, meaning the Senator Romania was friends with this guy

that owned a modeling agency and took me to the beach that's going to be in Constantin,

just so you know, for four days and legit slept collectively like 10 hours.

The person says, oh, I was up a lake and they were there, no, it's just talking about.

And then Tyler says, but yeah, these girls were crazy and I got completely Romanian sloshed

and it got very interesting.

Ha ha, this is the Tyler, I know everybody knows who Tyler is.

By the way, pretty sure Tyler was married in 2010, check the records, I think he was married

was his first wife in 2010 and also isn't he LDS, doesn't that mean he's not supposed

to be drinking?

Oh, who cares?

It's all for appearance.

Is anyways, super Christian company, who cares what they're actually doing?

Let's continue.

Tyler says they had this homemade whiskey that was like, I can't explain it, but yeah,

the girls were wow, both of them.

Ha ha ha ha.

I don't know.

He's a sexual demon.

It's like crazy.

I mean, there's just so much out there.

It's crazy.

Anyways, he says the person said, I knew a few girls from there, homemade whiskey makes

a person frisky.

I think that's in a song.

And Tyler responds, ha ha, that's probably the cause and effect statement of the night

and I can drink a lot so I don't pass out or get weird or anything.

Ha, okay, okay, we can come out of that.

What was he doing?

Who was the person in Romanian parliament that he was there to see?

And what was the name of the modeling agency?

I am dying to know because it's going to get real interesting now, right?

Erika just can't remember.

She can't remember how she knows them.

She can't remember how she met him.

She said to me, maybe it was through a senator, specifically that she said to me in person.

She said it might have been through a senator.

I think it could have been through a senator.

I think it definitely could have been through a senator, honestly.

The vibes are vibe in here.

I find that you both have a little something to do with what's going on in Romania as soon

as soon as we get there, as soon as America gets there and established as a base, just

going to become pretty much anonymous if you speak to Romanians with trafficking models

in Romania.

Do you know Jeffrey Epstein, Tyler?

Did you guys come across each other because he was dealing with miles of Romania too?

We got to figure out if you guys don't mind, I know this is a, I know they're just carrying

on Charlie's legacy, everybody griefs differently, and it might not be the time to ask, I'd really

like to know what model agency that Romanian Parliament member was working with that Tyler

had a fun night out with and it's a good place to pause before we bring Erika to Romania.

That'll be in tomorrow's episode.

We're going to take a brief break and I'm going to give you an interesting update about

her uncle, Rick.

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I just have to know what Tyler was doing in Romania.

Don't you guys just want to know what he was doing?

I'm dying to know.

It's like the one piece of her life.

Erica can't remember how she met Tyler Boyer.

It's crazy.

And the person that introduced you to your husband.

I feel like you and Lori and Tyler go back back way back.

You know what I'm saying?

I feel like you guys have known each other for like since at least 2010.

If I'm being honest, I think you knew the far and the worst and I think you knew the

Boyers.

That's, I'd actually go back further.

I think you guys maybe even knew each other since Afghanistan, but I'm going to wait until

tomorrow to introduce that and call you guys maybe even could have known each other.

I mean, just dancing around each other there in Arizona, I'll get involved in the same

stuff, charter schools, and then you and Tyler are going to graduate in the same year.

It's also crazy.

I need to know.

Tell me what happens?

What happened with turning point USA?

Just knew got lucky around pilgrimage, I guess, and there Charlie was at the airport in

Israel.

You saw him and mom said go up to him.

She's a pusher, right?

Lori's a pusher.

I always thought it was so strange how you never mentioned it that I was at the airport

with Charlie.

I thought that was so weird.

You never said that.

I saw Charlie with Candace because we were actually together for that trip.

So interesting.

Anyway, so it's a tangled, tangled web that we weave Erica, fun little update for you guys

on Uncle Rick.

I would argue that he's a fraud or actually, I wouldn't argue it.

It's not my opinion.

That was the bar's opinion.

Remember, I told you he lost his legal license in 2009 and I wasn't sure.

What or why or how I did know that his father, Tony, I'd be stood upon him some of that

money, but he was like, look, I don't know how this happened or how it got here.

Well, they're actually, it was very detailed article, our article about how he lost his

license.

And I'd like to share that information with you.

We learned the reason.

Rick is the movement that is mentioned throughout this article.

I'm just going to clear this up for you.

The first reason that his legal license was removed is because he didn't pay his dues.

Okay, my best guess is the reason he stopped paying his dues in Kentucky was that he was

hoping that they would stop their investigation into him, but they didn't.

We learned that in 2007, they then opened an investigation into him for the following

reasons.

Reason number one is because while employed by the Bank of Corbin to perform title searches

on certain properties, Rick didn't inform the bank that other mortgages already existed

on those properties.

So they were issuing loans to multiple people for the same property, right?

This means a failure to disclose this information resulted in the Bank of Corbin issuing loans

on four of the properties that were already encumbered by pre-existing mortgages.

Banks just loans, loans, loans, loans, loans, and it's going to this one property.

Just so you guys are clear, this is exactly what led to the financial crisis.

You ever was in the movie, the big short, this is what happened.

Okay, we continue the second reason is that Bill transferred 50% of the stock that he owned

in B&G Holdings LLC, and that's Bill, his brother, the one who goes present for years.

Well, we learned that Bill transferred 50% of that stock to an LLC called Bill Erpenbeck

Children LLC and Rick managed that LLC.

So Rick's brother, Bill, made the transfer, this goes on without any consideration and

while Rick was indebted to several leading institutions, because he stole money from

people.

And then that went to an LLC controlled by his brother, Rick.

And by the way, while they were going through bankruptcy court trying to find money and

how this happens after they steal from middle class people and poor people, they make

all, where's the money and people lose their homes, and well, then these people go into

bankruptcy court and Bill's like, I don't know where the money is.

Well, actually, in this case, the money was in an LLC controlled by Rick.

So that's what happens.

Rick ended up not only with Tony's money, but he also ended up with a good portion of

Bill's money as well.

Cool.

Thirdly, Rick prepared a deed transferring property to a woman named Anita Andrews, but

apparently he did not record that deed with the county and the deed wasn't actually

signed by Anita Andrews.

That's weird.

And he then quickly transferred that same property to his mother and father.

So this kind of feels like this is the deed fraud, there's some sort of fraud going on

with property.

So I don't know about you guys.

But I'm feeling really weird about the fact that he's the witness on these crazy divorce

docs.

I'm feeling weird.

Why, but you're not vibing.

Ultimately, Rick was found guilty.

That's why he had his license suspended, but only within the state of Kentucky in August

of 2009.

But and here is the kicker they found that his actions did not rise to the level of criminality,

just professional negligence.

It's amazing.

It is amazing what wealthy people, what wealthy criminals get away with, right?

So because you just imagine the people whose entire lives got ruined because they believed

in this company, they gave their money, they're doing more, whatever it is.

And then banks are going under their entire life savings have been depleted.

And we just look at the characters involved.

And he's like working at Universal.

You in more LLCs with Lori, Lori's working with the government.

Like I said, there's no bar to entry when you're with the gang.

You know what I mean?

The people that are running things doesn't matter.

They write the laws.

They'll read the laws that they want to read the laws.

And this was professionally not okay.

You committed no crimes here.

He just was negligence professionally, but let you get to many parking tickets.

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Let's go places.

You go to jail.

Let you speed.

If you're just speeding a little bit too quick on the freeway, all right, straight to jail.

Never get your life back.

Oh, you've got a record now.

You were smoking a joint.

You got a record.

Hunter Biden, you're smoking crack down the freeway.

Recording yourself.

You hand in your own laptop.

He's like, you know, I'm like, well, you know what we fly in high and we can do whatever

we want.

He's good.

He's never going to see a day in prison.

This won't let you know.

These are the people that roll over us.

Anyways, enjoy your time at Universal Studios.

In other news, Blake Neff is obviously demented.

I don't know what's wrong with this person.

I don't know if he's, he might be Jewish.

I don't even know because like, I don't, that's, I hope he's Jewish.

I hope he's Jewish because or I don't know what's going on here.

If this is just like a social disorder, whatever it is, they're obviously watching

every minute of the series and despite everything that we have presented, despite the questions

that we sent them ahead of the series that were then forwarded to a lawyer for no reason,

I had my producer Ashley said questions and they're like forwarded to a lawyer and

a lawyer right back off snippy.

We'd like to know the answer to some of these questions.

We're saying a lot here, right?

So gang ties, we don't know.

In the past, obviously Vince Lombardi is that her grandpa, I don't know, is that Laurie's

mother?

Is Laurie even Erica's mother?

Erica's weird little Tesseract school, fraud following Laurie, money disappearing everywhere

they go.

But there was only one thing that Blake Neff could not bear.

He couldn't bear it.

He put his foot down last night and he issued a full throw to a statement.

He did not care.

He came for me hard because no one comes for Shabbat Shalom.

No one comes for Erica Shabbat Shalom.

I remember yesterday I was joking about Shabbat Shalom, daddy's home, throw down the phone,

look at what turning point, what Blake actually authored.

This is not a joke, okay?

He could not bear me ridiculing Erica over Shabbat Shalom.

This is what he wrote on X.

I have avoided commenting on most of what can someone's claims are at the past few months.

Her last episode contains such a blatant untruth about Charlie's daily life that I

feel compelled to correct it.

In this episode, Candace Owens aggressively ridicules Erica for using the phrase Shabbat

Shalom and suggests that Charlie's last book stop in the name of God about the value

of observing the Sabbath is a fabrication to make Charlie appear more pro-Jewish and

pro-Israel than he really was.

It is very revealing that Candace would fixate on this as it immediately reveals unfamiliarity

with Charlie's behavior for the entire period that I knew him.

Charlie was observing his evangelical Christian version of Shabbat.

I can't even read this whole thing.

It's absurd.

You can come out of that because it is just absurd.

It is so absurd.

I can't even believe that he's authoring this.

First off, Blake, I could show you text messages that turning your phone off on Saturday.

I was doing first and telling Charlie he should do before anybody.

As soon as I met George, that became a thing.

I'm aware he turned his phone off on Saturdays.

That's been going on.

I did it first.

I've been watching this whole story, Spine.

What we're making fun of is that being the first thing that you hit on tour, or the idea

that he finished this book that this was his legacy.

It's pretty obvious here that you guys are trying to make us just remind us of how much

Charlie loves Israel.

BB Netanyahu came out within 48 hours to remind us of how much Charlie loved Israel.

We're aware of the sign up and it failed, but that this would be the thing that you broke

your sign on.

Like, oh, everything canister is saying, how dare she just count the fact that Charlie,

I just want to be clear, Charlie loved dreidel dreidel dreidel dreidel, he made it out of clay.

He'd spin it.

He'd play.

He loved Lotka's enough is enough.

They're delicious.

They're crunchy and they're salty.

And we will not stand for canister say this.

I'm sorry, Blake.

I'd like to apologize.

Shabbat Shalom.

Daddy's home.

He threw in his phone.

He cleared that up.

Charlie's phone was off on Saturdays.

Bro was like a rapper.

Slide didn't like usher.

Daddy's home.

Shabbat Shalom.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Erica.

I'm sorry, Blake.

I will never do this again.

We'll be back after.

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This is to be clear, I do love latkes, they are delicious, they're very, very good, and

they are salty, so there's that.

We can meet in the middle of, like, you better be Jewish, if I find out you're not Jewish,

you're in so much trouble.

Anyway, top comments from yesterday's episode, Angus Wright's, Imagine if Candace died

in a week later, there was a stranger sitting in her chair telling us she never believed

Brigitte was a man, and she loved Israel.

That's what happened to Charlie.

So well said, it's just upside downland, it's just so crazy, and like, do they even like

him?

Was he really just a means to an end?

I'm wondering, blame it on a black star, writes, I wonder if Erica is learning new things

about herself from this series.

I think Erica hits reset every morning, and I think the Erica, yesterday is not the

Erica today, and will not be the same Erica as tomorrow.

There's something about, she's just an autopilot, anyway, remind you guys if you want to support

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Okay, getting into some of your comments from today's episode, Fasted Wright's Day of

Prayer for the Epstein Victims is set for July 4th.

Father and heaven bless these victims, they are scared, silenced, and alone, we will declare

our independence from these evil monsters running our world, and Jesus name, please amen

crisis king.

Yes, pray.

It means something, guys, I am telling you, you can feel it, the energy is shifting.

There's an awareness, like there has never been an awareness before.

We couldn't even discuss these topics, the probability of these sort of dynamics happening

globally.

If it was a few years ago, you would sound like you were a crazy person, and we're now

able to discuss these prospects because people are pursuing independent voices, and people

are considering how we got here.

I would also really like to say, as I have said many times before, get your kids out of school.

If you are able to do so, I just have had a very strong sense that you need to pull your

kids out of public schools.

There's just a lot of bad stuff happening right now.

I'll leave it at that.

Rachel, Jen, Newseck writes, it's my birthday.

Also I have two questions to Charlie date anyone else before Erica.

I had alluded to the fact that Charlie did have one person that he was very, very, very,

very into before Erica, and that's why it was L.O.L.

Larius, one turning point PR, tried to push out this narrative, and Charlie were a thing.

I was so his win-win, you have no idea.

I actually became very close with that young lady because I felt like it was just me texting

her all the time because Charlie would ask me, what should I text, what should I, you know,

what should I say, or whatever, Charlie really was like a kid brother to me.

So you answer the answer to that question is yes, one person, but yeah, then in America,

that's the answer.

The second question that you have, also happy birthday, Rachel, I didn't say happy birthday.

Do you know if Erica still has her kids?

I saw some posts about Charlie's parents taking them.

Thank you, Candace.

You are amazing.

There's no truth to that.

Erica definitively still has her kids.

UT, Gramshar writes, thank you, Candace for simply being you.

We are very thankful for your courage, your faith, and your drive to find the truth in

all things, to continually ask questions, anyone who has attacked you for doing what Charlie

would say to do, owes you an apology, go max.

I will not hold my breath for an apology.

I might have been interested in an apology.

I just want to get to the truth, and we're getting closer to the truth.

And getting into Romania and bringing these pieces together and establishing the characters

and the narrative was all just sort of necessary steps that we had to take.

Tremendous.

Thank you to our little team in there who trust me.

We've been working hard, everybody has been working really hard researching, in fact,

working, and also enduring a lot of emails on top of everything.

So, and also thank you to everybody out there as we get closer to being finished with

this series.

It was only supposed to be three episodes, but because they posted Savannah's baby,

I was like, oh, no, you're getting a whole extra week.

You don't post infants on the internet.

You just don't post infants on the internet.

And then I added another episode because somebody called the Skyler and left a message.

So this is how I play.

We can go a whole year.

I can do a whole year.

Brigitte got a season two because she sued me.

Brigitte was supposed to just be an episode and then she sent me a threat and she got a

season.

And then she sent me a lawsuit and she got a second season.

So, and, you know, that's where I'm at right now.

Gracie Liu writes, I would be so blessed to have a friend like you that said, how did

Erica Kirk scam a genius like Charlie?

The more I hear her past interviews, the dumber she sounds.

I don't get it.

Shake it in my head.

This stuff with men and women is biblical.

You go to Genesis.

I mean, it's not, this is not about an IQ of people saying, Charlie was a genius.

How could he hire people around him IQ and EQ are totally different things?

And on the topic of women, I, Charlie was a genius.

He just wasn't a genius in the topic of women.

Don't be ridiculous.

And you grow to trust people.

People forget how young Charlie was.

So even in terms of who was around him, you make mistakes.

We are all human.

It doesn't matter how genius you are, interpersonal relationships, that's an entirely different

dynamic.

I have been friends with people and those friendships have fallen apart.

I would say I have a pretty high emotional, I have a high EQ definitively and sometimes

you get it wrong.

This is all normal stuff.

And so, I think people keep going, well, he was so brilliant, he was so brilliant.

And then he sees a girl and things change and you're no longer thinking clearly and

emotions get into the mix.

We've all been there before.

We have all been there before.

So I do think, well, I know for a fact, you didn't know a lot of these things about

Erica because I was there.

And I'm finding this stuff out.

He definitively did not know.

He thought it was all organic.

And I have my questions about that.

Tyler Boyer.

He's an important guy, important guy, Tyler Boyer, drinking in Romania, enjoying the models,

the ladies who was the person in Romanian parliament and he went out to see, how does that

happen?

Tyler was in college.

Who set that up?

Could it have been a foreign's worth or close with that family, aren't you?

They were in office.

Hmm.

I'll keep digging, see what we come up with.

Sarah Phillips writes, can someone please tell me why the LLCs and charities by Erica and

her mom sound exactly like the fraud that Doge and Elon uncovered in the government?

That'd be great if Elon could go ahead and finish that Doge for Charlie.

I'd like that Doge to be finished.

I'd like to know what it was that Charlie was concerned about seven days before that

we're supposed to believe he just did for funsies.

It's not the story that I've been told by people that are more intimately involved.

I was turning point USA.

And since nothing they say is true, I am under under no illusions when it comes to the

people that are in charge now, Erica among them.

Danny writes, they all act in bad faith literally.

That is correct.

So I just wanted to show you that.

I've been saying for a while about that.

That is not even, if you thought that that message revealed him, you don't know Tyler

Boyer.

And that is the first thing that registered to me as suspicious is Erica is keeping people

that I know are corrupt, that I know are liars, that I know are sexual deviants.

So what's actually driving that?

And I think the answer is prior existing relationships, military relationships, actually, that's

the story that I'm telling.

And I think tomorrow you will see even more how plausible that is, how plausible it is.

They all kind of knew each other before.

And then surrounded Charlie like a November Renaissance.

We'll leave it at that you guys, we'll see you tomorrow.

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