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I'm going to tell you why the Mike Evans news might be the best thing to happen at Tampa Bay.

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And you know what, Jaren?

I'm going to tell you why.

I think everyone said a saw that Mike Evans move coming a year ago.

And I'm Ryan LaVoy and I'm going to tell you why it's still ultimately a sad day for Tampa Bay.

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Like I said, I'm your host, Jaren.

We got a packed show for you today.

Mike Evans is heading off to San Francisco.

Then we're going to look at Tampa Bay's three agent moves that they've made so far today.

Then we have an update on Trade Hendrickson before we dive into our mock draft Monday.

This mock draft will be from CBS Sports as Tom for Nelly.

So we'll tell you who he has Tampa Bay selecting.

And if we agree with it or disagree.

But let's dive into the Mike Evans move.

As things started unfolding today, obviously the K.O.T. move happened pretty quick.

And I remember reading like if it was either probably going to be Kate or Mike is kind of how it was going to come down to.

But with the K.O.T. move, then you had the game well moved.

And he had the, and it's a loony move.

And it's like, oh boy, this isn't sound good for Mike Evans to return to Tampa Bay.

And I will say, you know, obviously he's an all time great buck.

He's going to, he's on the Mount Rushmore, in my opinion, of a Tampa Bay Buccaneer all time.

I mean, he's just had a stellar career.

And it's going to be weird seeing him play somewhere else.

It's kind of kind of feel like I'm sure it felt like for San Francisco fans when Jerry Rice left to play elsewhere.

Patriots fans when Tom Brady went to play elsewhere.

Like it's going to be weird.

But the reason why I said I think it's ultimately going to be best for them is obviously Mike is still a very good wide receiver.

And then let's not say he's, he's not, but he did, he did get injured last year.

And so you have to take that into account.

And he does bring a, um, an asset to the team.

We're not sure if they have, especially with the red zone targets and things like that.

But on the flip side.

And we've, we've talked about this on past shows.

Tampa Bay had so many holes, especially defensively on the team.

That I don't know if they were going to be able to fill most of those and re-sign Mike Evans.

It almost was one of those things that you had to either re-sign them.

And fill a couple holes or you had to say, man, I love you, Mike, but we got to fill these holes.

You know, he also only signed for what 14 million a year or three years from San Francisco and some people will be like, hey, that would have been worth doing it.

And there's fairness to that.

But, you know, the last thing I will say, the kind of weird thing about this.

We were going through the four criteria that he laid out.

We never really considered San Francisco a part of that.

But they do check every box that he labeled.

Yeah, you know, I think Jiren first on those criteria.

I mean, it was a little disappointing to think about a commitment to Brock party over Baker Mayfield.

Now, it's not as simple as that because it's the Kyle Shanahan angle more than it is anything.

But, you know, I think that when it comes down to it and reason why I said it's a sad day.

Look, it doesn't mean it can't, you know, the box can't build something that that wins them the division in 2026.

It doesn't mean that they can't figure out how to have a decent free agency.

And I think they've made a couple good moves which we'll talk about later.

But it's always going to be a sad day when the face of your franchise for the last decade plus is on the move.

I mean, like, that's just the reality.

And that's the, that's the business side of it too.

I don't blame Mike Evans and outs.

I hope he has a tremendous time in San Francisco.

I think though that this is more of not a slap in the face like Mike is not unfair to do this.

But it's a slap in the face to the Bucks for an office that thinks that this team is in good position right now.

I think that when you're looking at a three for 42 million dollar deal, I'm a hundred percent confident the Bucks are willing to offer that.

There's not a shadow of that on my mind.

There was reports and figures out there crazily enough from people I trust reporting like the Greg almonds of the world that were insinuating that

someone had made a 27 million dollar offer.

Maybe it was just for one year.

We don't know it might have been in the Browns.

It might have been a team not in position.

But even if that was bending the truth a little bit, I mean the initial reporting on the San Fran deal was three for 60 and that I can believe.

And so look, I think that money was not an issue here.

This is a indictment of Tampa's roster situation.

I think to some degree it's an indictment of the coaching staff.

I think the back going back to the Atlanta game and thinking about him going down the tunnel saying third and 28.

I think that moment is what birth this.

I think the frustration that this was all headed in the wrong direction was born out of that.

And so I don't blame Mike Evans and ounce like I said.

That doesn't mean it's not incredibly sad and frustrating.

This is also the reality from those players.

It's why it's so cherished and so awesome when it can work out for an entire career.

You should not give up the fact that Lavante David today tomorrow sometime in the future is only deciding between bucks and retiring like that's going to either culminate his career.

And one more season in Tampa or it's already been culminated like those things should be cherished and celebrate because there's so hard to achieve.

And so that's what makes it so sad and the last thing to that makes it sad is that.

You know Mike Evans had a streak of consistency that a okay was a record breaking streak to start a career tied the record overall.

And then be despite all the frustrating times Tampa had as a unit to start his career the first half of his career.

It's Mike Glennon and it's Jamest Winston and it's McCown and it's just these guys that are not good NFL quarterbacks he's still putting up the numbers.

He's still he's not complaining how many wide receivers are sitting through five or six years of that and not wanting out because that list is very few and far between.

So he was such a likable guy from the word go and look again he deserves to finish this how he wants.

But that kind of endearment knowing that that position as above many others has a lot of guys wanting to cause drama or wanting to to find greener pastors knowing he was not like that.

And knowing that he was a part of the teams that did figure out success in Tampa again he's a legend he's a Hall of Famer.

And when you have those things in place it just makes it a sad day for the crew.

Well all good things must come to an end you can see the frustration in Mike this season I think the last two seasons has been a little banged up they actually had to force it.

For some of all to even keep the street going I think there's some things that Mike realizes that everything is runs its course and I don't think he trusts that Tampa Bay.

It's going to make the necessary moves or has what it takes to get as far as the 49ers did so as they mentioned it wasn't about money and I think Mike peeked out he was at his peak he absolutely peeked out in Tampa.

And now when he when they were using the term new challenge I saw it more as a new opportunity new challenge this doesn't make sense when you've been on the same team.

So if you go new challenge at another team we're just looking at an opportunity where San Francisco made the most sense I think James Yarko actually probably said San Fran was an option a week ago or so when I was saying Buffalo or whoever Kansas City and you know it was going to be a good weather team that could pay him let's face it San Fran doesn't have a number one guy really on the outside tight ends banged up.

They're successful Brock party I mean is he as good as Baker I don't know it's up for debate you'll have to give up that 13 possibly though and and I just see Mike wanting to go out with having the best seasons of his career in the last three years of his career.

And San Fran was knocking on the door this year I mean Tampa didn't make the playoffs they had a complete debacle and even when he came back he was only the feature receiver for one game and he wasn't getting the targets I also think Mike looked at that receiver room he looked at Zach Robinson you know he looked at everything I was going on and saying well.

For what he wants and what Tampa Tampa wants probably doesn't make sense and so the the genius in Jason like is that he's a silent assassin meaning you'll think he's thinking one thing and he'll make a completely different move.

The foreshadowing that I said in the opening in the opening is when they drafted a mecca in the first round last year they weren't expecting him to come and replace Mike right away but they had an idea once Mike signed that two year deal two years ago then you draft the receiver the next year.

What what Jason was trying to do was say hey even if we lose Mike already got a first round or last year's draft who actually shows some flashes of being pretty good and so that entire room when you look at it for what Mike's money was going to be as compared to what they need I think Tampa Bay and Mike mutually parted ways thinking that's what was best for Mike and what was best financially for the bucks obviously they wanted to keep him.

But you kind of knew that if you were going to sign Mike and Kate was going to go so it's not like they chose Kate over Mike it was I just think Mike looked at everything from the locker room new coordinator I mean how many coordinators has this guy played for in his 12 year career so far how many eight six I don't know but at the same time I think he wanted to go somewhere that he felt like they had a chance to win.

Very competitive division now now if he's a different maker to take them over the top against the Super Bowl champs and and those pesky rams we'll see but I think it was the right move I think it was a smart move and I and I actually think it's going to work out for both parties.

Yeah I agree with that I think it is going to work out for both parties and I agree with Ryan I can't blame Mike for making that move to San Francisco and I don't think it's as simple I saw a lot of people say this is an indictment on Baker and Zach Robinson and and to your point Ryan.

Kyle Shanahan if he's not the top offense of mine and football it's him or Sean McVeigh it's one of the two and that's not a knock to say like I trust this guy more than Zach Robinson and Baker to Mark's discredit Baker and party I would put in the same tier I kind of I said Baker before is in that 12 to 17 range.

Heard he's one of those two and it just depends on how you feel about they're both kind of in that same ring we've seen them both play really high MVP level we've also seen them both play pretty bad and so they're almost the same quarterback you're kind of just kind of picking your poison with that if anything this is an indictment on Todd bowls one and two if Mike Evans felt like they could make the necessary improvements to be a Super Bowl container this year.

Not in a year or two and this is something I think I talked about you know last Wednesday's or last Monday's where I said I don't know and I said it earlier to I don't know if they can sign Mike Evans and fill all the holes that they need to fill defensively to be a contender right now the only way I could have seen when I talk about back then but Mike Evans returning was.

If they could convince him hey we'll fill most of those and be a contender this year but next year is the year that we will really film and then we'll take off but Mike might not have wanted to wait that long you know he might only have one season and I think ultimately there was too many holes to fill which is Jason lights fault and Todd bowls was fault by the way they drafted by the way they've done for agency the by the way they developed it's their fault that Mike Evans said.

I don't think you can be can you can fix that overnight and I don't have enough time to wait for you.

Yeah and I think that he was always he and his agent were saying something very interesting the whole time which I think meant two things one for why Mike wanted him something personally more out of the the next couple of years and also why he kind of feels like he hasn't done anything wrong by the box which I agree with.

Is that he kept on he said a couple different times or through his agent that the wide receiver room wasn't a great place and what I think he meant by that was one you know maybe if things go poorly next year and this kind of mark is talking about maybe I'm not the future wide receiver maybe I'm not quite getting to lead the show in the way that I was at time throughout most of his career obviously really his whole career.

And then also to well that wide receiver room when I leave it it's going to be fine so I'm not going to be the reason that you guys don't have the success or do have the success in other words I'm leaving this wide receiver room in a place where you shouldn't in my opinion miss me too much but there's other holes on the team which I see being too problematic for me to stay.

Yeah and and I just think like for Mike when you start getting entered as an older player it starts to kind of stay in the back of your mind like in your subconscious like I'm on my way out but I banged up this year I you know I it's been a lot of changes they need to make more changes and you get a new coordinator and I know he comes from the tree and all of that but.

That point of Kyle going to link up with Kyle Shanahan they're going to figure out how to get Mike off because they can't run the ball with McCaffrey and then you know kiddos get some self together you know he's always been a problem but they don't have a guy and this is the first time in Brock party's career.

Since he's been out there and saying friend that he's going to have a big six five number one target like a big dude that can get it I know Debo sanals was more of a you know tweener and little running back a little gadget guy but at the same time Mike is a big threat and if he's healthy and he gets out there he could set it off and I will say to Brock parties demise a little bit is when Brian greasy left you know my former teammate always shout out my teammates he was brought it was the one.

That kind of got Brock party going a couple years ago in San Fran and then Brian step down and it wasn't the same guy.

And let's just be talk about reality reality of it is if they don't have the collapse they had with all the issues they have defensively if they don't have that collapse Mike is probably still a buck right now instead of deciding to go somewhere else.

I come next the bucks did make several free agency moves let's talk about that come on next.

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Our book's going back from one of our other segment of the book's watch are not quite the last segment this year.

I just reminded us extra content with you twice week Mondays and Wednesday nights at 9 PM Eastern time doesn't take anything away from the great work that James does and I know he was putting in the work today I was keeping up with.

Different stuff he was posting even on social media so.

Make sure you still follow him but Tampa Bay it wasn't overall just horrible day I mean it was still probably a doom and gloom type day but.

They didn't make several moves so Tampa Bay resigned K dot in which you know just a week you know did not look like that was going to happen and that's when the Kenyans a deep stuff start popping up even more that.

Possibly wasn't going to be back ought was going to be back then they signed Alex and Zaloni from the Detroit Lions and they kind of the shocker was the kin of game will move at running back because it wasn't really a name we heard.

Very often when it came to Tampa Tyler out here was kind of the one that we heard the most which I think you went to Arizona I think is what I saw but.

Ultimately that's the three that they either resigned or signed Alex and Zaloni again he's also another guy that we didn't hear a lot as a possible addition to the linebacker room.

The Kobe Dean was one that we heard quite a bit and then I think he went to the Raiders and so ultimately missed out on him but.

As long as a guy that you know 95 tackles this year two and a half sacks just two years ago in 20 actually in 22 and 23 he had over 125 tackles both seasons.

He's he was the leader of the Detroit defense he was even a captain for Detroit and they've had some good units out there now the negative is he's about to be in his year 32 season 30 is age being 32 and so that's kind of at least a worry a little bit but.

He's going to bring a lot of experience in and he's a very capable player for sure.

Yeah Jerry and I mean I think that you know with Alex and Zaloni I think this is the best move the bucks made today and it's certainly filled the biggest position of need now with the

bottom situation will get to that in a second I think that you know with the money that Evans did actually sign for I do think both of those guys were attainable but there was definitely some cap linkage there to where it would be tough to make them both work and and do the work you need to do on the defensive side of the ball.

I think Alex and Zaloni who is going to be such an upgrade at the bare minimum over Straussi Dennis his ability and past coverage is going to be very important he is a three down line backer he is a veteran that I think they're going to be able to use and and either position a good bit.

You know ironically we had you know done free agent list in the last couple of weeks and I was the other pirate team it was the Raiders that kind of signed the two guys I was eyeing the most in the Kobe Dean and and Kueh Walker but you know I think that you know you mentioned the age part of it too.

I think that they I'd like to think that they're hedging a little bit on they still don't know the Bonte David decision that either way I think either way return or not they're going to be drafting a linebacker pretty early in the draft as early as the second round and I think that whether David is back whether

Zaloni gives you two good years or not you know that guy that they draft is going to be starting sooner rather than later so I don't think it changes their draft thoughts on linebackers and the second to third fourth round etc.

So I like the Anzaloni move a good bit because that's an instant upgrade at a starting position.

The Kenneth Gainwell one was as you said Jared not on my radar at all and you know two years 14 million for him.

It ended up being about a million and a half to two million more total in the two years and Tyler Algier but it's clear the bucks were looking for the direct replacement to Rashad White.

They wanted a pass catcher they wanted a third down back and they did not care about the power aspect that Algier bring or brought and you know we linked him because he was

because he worked under Zach Robinson maybe Zach Robinson didn't like that was his number two back I mean that that's always possible to your coordinator you're not controlling your roster but you know I liked Algier a lot but I think with Gainwell's pass catch acumen.

They are absolutely going to be able to use him in a variety of ways that way and he did have a thousand scrimmage yards last season so you know the seven million per year you have to get used to a little bit because you were paying Rashad White and Sean Tucker on rookie deals so they weren't making that.

But at the same time I think that Gainwell is a guy that you know right in the prime of his career has not been overworked and should be available to you and be able to give you a different nuance that that Bucky Irving is not necessarily going to be as equipped to do.

There are three ways to go shopping in NFL there's the draft there's free agency and there's trading so I think today what the bucks did I think they filled some holes I think they kind of put you know Alex was probably the best move cave he had already been there you know last four years yeah he's had he's had a few drops but you know he caught the game when the touchdown is the ramps.

And he got 20 million guarantee out of 30 so I mean and he's a pretty adequate pass blocker too so they didn't I don't think they wanted to spend a lot of money at tight in because of the wide receiver room obviously and they were losing Mike.

But at linebacker I think what they set themselves up for was I think David comes back I think Angeloni gets in there he mixes it mixes it mix it up.

And then you draft a rookie to replace David I mean Lavante David for the next season and then you get it Angeloni and that rookie draft pick in 27 out there together the thing I like about Alex is that he plays well in space I mean you know to be six three 230 pounds or whatever it is like he moves well he had nine past deflections he has interceptions under his belt he plays the run well plays with a lot of fun.

So I think that's a good move and and for the money that they paid him I mean they didn't break the bank so Jason likes trying to stay within his budget he's trying to get the most bang for his buck as far as best player available to fill a knee and then as far as game well you know interesting man you know he's he kind of reminds me of Bucky a little bit you also have to remember to that.

Bucky missed a significant amount of time so to replace the Rishaw White yes but I actually think it's an upgrade I mean I thought Rishaw White did fairly good he thinks he's a number one running back and maybe he is a game well already proved it and so he you know he he's a very interesting player because you know I was he was with the Eagles spend some time with the stillers it was a team MVP he had a thousand plus yards total offense I would have like to see more rush yards out of him.

But he catches the ball well out of the backfield I mean Aaron Rogers checked the ball down to game well often and he makes people miss it's something about these five nine running backs that's starting to come into play when you I don't know I don't know if it was the Kenneth Walker type thing but those five nine two hundred pounds receivers who can catch past block and run the ball I think are what these offense of coordinators are looking for but the Bucks read the game.

But the Bucks really want to get a running back in the draft or ever going to do it out of free agency and remember they want to spend a lot because they kind of have their offense set like their hand their their deck of cards are pretty set and if you get a guy like Kenny then like you add another weapon to the offense you go with a two back systems probably 60 40 you know 70 30 to kind of start off with as far as Bucky versus game well but

game well proved that he could play and and and so I didn't see a running back coming in free agency I was thinking more draft and they still made draft or a running back but if you look at you get a tight in so you so you keep your tight in you add a running back you you feel avoid that linebacker now the Bucks are really looking at okay what are they going to do at edge russard now you kind of know that that pick in the first round is going to be an edge russard I think you I think this kind of setting it up that way

for shadowing a little bit and then they're going to go linebacker and then they're going to go corner their first four picks on this draft could be straight defense that's a fill in the rest of those gaps and it probably should now I mean given what we saw last year and I will say this you know it was kind of funny

because for shot white wasn't necessarily viewed this way but I actually really liked it when they used him in the passing game especially on screens and stuff I felt like he always turned it into something positive and then obviously you lose that

and I know it was a different offense a system but look at what Zach Robinson did with running backs in the passing game now I know it's beach on Robinson and he might be the best running back in the NFL

but he had a hundred and three targets seventy nine receptions and eight hundred and twenty yards last year.

Can't game was one of the best receiving backs in the league and so being able to use him and that aspect and that also makes it where and I know Bucky is improving as a pass catcher and improving that part of his game

but it makes it where Bucky who now somewhat has an injury history you don't have to make him do everything let him just worry about the running back part what can game well come in and kind of be that that Swiss Army knife that does it all for you

and I think that is going to be a really good compliment to the team and to your point Marcus you can play in both at the same time if you wanted to and make them both receiving threat especially with you losing mic if you want to throw in something else like you could do that as well with both of them

Angeloni we talked about his you know Marcus mentioned he could wear the green dot be the leader of the defense and kind of captain the defense and I didn't want to ask you Marcus when you bring in a guy that for five years in a row was

Voting captain by his team so obviously he's a high character guy what does that add to a team obviously we know what Angeloni is going to bring as a player on the field is one of the best cover linebackers out there you have a ton of tackles but what about bringing a guy that's really good on the field but now another leader and another really good locker room guy especially when you have a young defense and you're probably going to be drafting some more defensive guys

anyway so bring more young guys onto the team what does that bring to the team it brings respect it brings credibility and and actually a winning pedigree I know Detroit didn't do as well last year but a couple years ago Detroit was on fire and Alex was writing the middle of all of that a few years younger obviously about turn 32 but you get a guy that you know in that locker room that's going to that some other people around him already know about him

like when you get a player that's already had some success that's joining your team and you know he's feeling a need let's face it he but he brings past coverage and so if I see a struggle with that like Alex can drop in zone he can play man he can cover tight ends for the most part so when you when you put him next tool of on tape David who's going to be the captain of that defense then he can be your lieutenant and so that's that's that's what you get out of a guy.

Like signing Alex where you're going to get production and I also think top bulls is going to find a way with find a way to blitz Alex and get him in that backfield to get some tackles for loss remember what bulls said at the combine or whenever he said it he wants bigger players he thinks the defense need to get bigger so you immediately go to a six three Mike slash will linebacker next to a KG veteran and then you go get you a hot shot rookie you know

the bucks only had two linebackers under contract going into this situation so I mean everybody probably is applauding Jason for at least that move on defense as far as getting a linebacker I know some people might have one of the corner seeing that Dean went to Pittsburgh but at the same time that they got young corners so they can get another one but I just think when you bring you know the interesting thing is Alex wanted to go to Tampa.

Like I think he turned down more money to go play for Tampa maybe it's a top bulls thing maybe he likes their scheme but he knows he can he can be an elixir to some of their problems.

The one thing I want to add before we go on to trade Hendrickson is that the tied in deal for Kate oughting because I saw you know some people being a little skittish about it because Kate oughting is kind of the league average tied in seeing the three year 30 million dollar figure 20 guaranteed well you know you think to yourself with no context is that an overpay he's actually going to be tied for 15th amongst NFL tight ends in salary so he's going to be paid right in the middle of NFL tight ends and also if you're wondering in the Isaiah likely

the contract was the three for 40 so you're about 10 million $10 million off the three years there so just wanted to do the financial figures say Kate oughting is kind of going to be paid appropriately I know it's not sexy to say you've got a league average guy at a position but he's being paid accordingly.

And according to OTC he was projected at making 9.97 million a year so he's 30,000 overpayed.

Real quick I know we have to go to a break but Marcus when you do players know that stuff when a guy is coming in it's been a captain for a while at another place is that something that they know and care about or is it just hey we want to see what you're like here.

Yeah they they know and some people will welcome it and some people may be scoff at it but looking at what the books went through last year I think they looked at Alex and some of the players are probably saying we needed this guy.

Because if a Vante goes down or he's not playing well or he's older then you've got survivability after getting beat on third and six when there's a little spot right behind him and he's not looking up receivers.

This is a guy that can get them off the field and so that's so so they know about Alex they played like they played them the boxes play have played Detroit last couple of years so you got to understand he's no stranger.

You know when you put the tape on and I think when guys see an impact player coming then especially the starters they actually welcome that.

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I have a bug squad back for another segment of the box squad show so probably the biggest fish still left in the free agency market is trade Hendrickson I'll you although you can argue some other pieces.

But there was a point earlier on Monday that it seemingly was down to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Dallas Cowboys for trade Hendrickson now shortly after that the Dallas Cowboys trade for Rashon Gary and that kind of put some doubt into it although there are some reports that I read.

I said that Dallas isn't technically out of the trade Hendrickson sweepstakes but this obviously would make it a little tougher for them.

But then I started thinking about it and I feel like Brian win horse with the win when he did the double fingers up where what is Philly doing because yeah it's exactly right because Philly continues to be very aggressive in and for agency in the offseason except for this year.

And they're losing a lot of pieces that they typically would resign Jalen Phillips in one we mentioned Nicobie Dean earlier reblaking ship even gets out of town to go to Houston.

Almost like they're trying to make a run here at trade Hendrickson.

Don't tell me that cheering it needs to be just Bucks and Cowboys Cowboys got their ratio Gary and the Bucks move on because here's the thing we talked about good value or appropriate value in the last segment with the free signings.

But the tendency is to think and it's not an unfair one well that's just same old Bucks just hunting value hunting value not getting the star players markets on multiple occasions as told us about and I 100% agree there's not a lot of premium players in Tampa and certainly not defense inside the ball right now well that's what the Bucks are lacking that's what they need they need one of those and.

And you know we've talked about you know what you would pay to these guys well you know Max Trosby off the board now some of these other guys that we didn't talk about as much on the show the Jalen Phillips of the world as you mentioned Jalen and and quiddy pays of the world they're gone they're off the table even one of the couple the older guys like Cleal Mac gone off the table so.

So I think your last chance to get a clear upgrade over what I keep saying is Yaya Diabi because that's that's my point Yaya Diabi is a really solid number two.

If you don't do better than that this off season you're going to have the same problems next year if you can get someone better than Yaya Diabi then you have the realistic expectation to improve and get a more defined and consistent pass rush and so.

That to me now is Tray Hendrickson and he's probably somewhere in the in between the Cleal Mac Jalen Phillips quiddy pay so quiddy pay was 16 million a year on the three year 48 Jalen Phillips was the four for 120 at 30 million I would think that somewhere between the 18 the 28 million range somewhere in there is going to be or Tray Hendrickson lands and I mean you just had a situation where.

You don't pay my heavens that kind of money and you spent in the aggregate you know just on a one year basis the 10 million for ought and then a year the seven million for gain will the eight and a half for and so that's about 25 and a half million that's just one simple restructure they already had almost that much in cap space so.

So you're another restructure or two away from being able to have the trade Hendrickson money which I we know the box have been willing to do that they will bend the cap and we know that so.

The Hendrickson thing is that this is the type of player the least eases the pain a little bit of losing your franchise stalwart of the last 12 years on the offensive side of all you know doesn't mean that now the box can go.

You know get the ring size fitted but it does give you a realistic expectation for that defense that says okay you got a insolony and now you got a big time pass rusher and Hendrickson now i'm starting to have some acquisition of talent now I start to see.

How the box don't even need a huge schematic poll to already be improved they just improve the personnel without relying on development or drafting or scheme or anything like that so.

I think the Hendrickson thing I mean you always hate to say someone or bust and free agency but the level of edge rusher is going to go so much further down if you don't get Hendrickson and then you'd be gambling in the draft which again I think they still need to draft somebody there.

But does that give you the return investment now probably not.

And I really think like this trade Hendrickson thing I think it has some legs like they didn't spend a lot of money on the three guys from the last segment and I think if they really want to really get serious I think trade Hendrickson even at his age would would be.

Even if you pay them I mean he's his ticket is going to be up there now I mean I mean that's the thing see I think that's a higher odds of getting something out of.

The money that you put into him versus drafting the first round rookie and expecting him to come in and dominate I mean even if people get drafted in the first round based off potential what they think you're going to be not what you've done.

And let's talk about what what trade has done trade 17 and a half sacks and 23 17 and a half regular season and 24 he was second in for you know defensive player of the year 14 sacks and 21 13 and a half and 20.

I mean this guy wants to win and he can flat out play I mean he can get busy but all he knock is we know he missed a handful of games his passes so you want to spend that type of money on a used car well like me I bought a 2020 escalator you know it drives well it looks good and have a lot of too many miles on it and it didn't cost me that much now if I went for 26 then I'll be doing more shows than this.

You know I'm riding clean and I think that the bucks that they need to probably finally put some money behind somebody and I just see I think trade Hendrickson is better than every edge in the draft.

You drive for the future it's a need but you cannot expect him to whoever they pick let's say they pick someone in the first round to come in and be a 17 and a half sack guy and and so you so you put out as a linebacker you bring Lavante back you got y'all y'all you got Vita and then you put trade out there paying and let him know we need you to do what you did or if not more up and Cincinnati.

And so I think they're talking they're talking and to your point Jerry I think Philly's talking to they're just playing possum they didn't really make a lot of noise and really they've been you know obviously they resigned a big detacle and he got his money a lot of money as my fact but ever since Brandon Graham you know kind of step down you know they they've been missing something at that edge too and Philly you know I you know Brandon grams of Michigan guy and we

sack the quarterback you talk about could he pay you talk about all these other guys you talk about D lineman and NFL you're going to talk Michigan so Brandon grams gone a couple years now Philly needs to reload trade Hendrickson's looking around thinking do you want to go to a Super Bowl champion it's tight team maybe or do you want to go to someone who thinks that they should be in the Super Bowl as in Tampa so I think Hendrickson would would check a lot of boxes for Tampa Bay before the draft.

Yeah it would check a ton of boxes I think that the addition of Hendrickson and then obviously the Anzaloni move at linebacker and this is a team that maybe not Super Bowl contender but they're up there I mean they're one of the best in the NFC but it also it's making a sign like Hendrickson now it opens you up to be more flexible when it comes to the draft I mean right now I think we would all agree.

They have to get an edd rusher in the first round but if you get Hendrickson you could go edd rusher and have a younger guy but you don't have to go one of the start corners that are in this draft if you would like to do another corner out there or you know a safety falls into your lap.

You know Caleb Downs ends up falling you can go you might even go down even if the edd rusher is there but but you can go something like that and then now you're really fixing your team or you know there's a guy that James has mentioned Pierre Woods you know maybe he's available and you go defensive tackle in this draft and get more depth there so it makes you way more flexible with this draft that you could go linebacker which they might still go linebacker even with the Anzaloni move.

Um and again adding a trade Hendrickson because you have to show the because right now the fans a lot of the fans are upset with the Mike Evans move a lot of I've seen a lot of people upset now there's some that are like hey you know screw him if he's not a buck and so be it but a lot of people are upset that Jason light and talk bowls let Mike Evans get away.

You want to immediately get your fan base back on board go get a trade Hendrickson because then you could say yeah I know we didn't end up paying Mike Evans and keeping him but the reason we didn't pay him is because we had all these things that we had to fix and because we didn't pay Mike Evans we were able to sign anzaloni to what we signed into we were able to sign trade Hendrickson as well we're able to sign you know whoever else they end up bringing in can't game well right now.

If you want to get the fans back on your side then you need to bring in a guy like trade Hendrickson or at least be one of those teams that is always mentioned going after him and I know some people are going to be upset like hey if you don't get him it doesn't matter but we need Tampa to be in these conversations.

Well to oversimplify it you know it's like you're mean you mean to tell me that one of the most consistent past rushers of the last half decade wants to go to your team has publicly said he'd like to go to your team and that's arguably your biggest need on the entire football team and you're going to say no I'm good you know like that that is I get that there's cat math I get there's other considerations but just simplifying it.

He's a really good player at a position you really need and he wants to be there I should I don't just don't think they should over complicate this and I agree with that and and and this to be honest this is a maker break year for the books for a lot of people and I mean and you're talking on Baker doesn't have an extension yet he's going to get paid this year to know if there's something out.

Uh you got some lineman that are going to be out of there this this team could look different and it already started with Mike Evans and you're right Ryan you know you see a lot of people upset about the Mike Evans move but you can kind of fix that real quick if you get a premier edge rusher you know something at everybody was lacking I mean everybody knows that this team needs and let's fake face Mike Evans wasn't out there the entire season last year and and and he wasn't the same guy.

I didn't have the same season where we all need to move on from that it was good while I last it and like I said it's going to work out for both parties but I think if trade Hendrix and goes to another team in the NFC and he ends up sack and Baker four times in the first round of the playoffs then some heads are really going to roll so you got to understand like sometimes you sometimes you sign a guy just so you don't have to play against them and and so you have to understand like you're right.

This could be the biggest need on that team and then you can still even draft another one in the in the in the fourth round now but if they piece this up like you said Jen if they piece this upright and get trade that immediately checks some boxes like as far as a now they could get fancy in the draft now now now they can kind of go best player available or get that corner.

As you mentioned in the first round now and still get a line going to go linebacker corner it's however you want to do it if you sign straight that's going to give them a lot of flexibility.

Yeah for sure and another thing and we've said this before when they decided to bring Todd back you don't keep Todd bowls and not give him the defensive guys he needs to have to be successful otherwise why why did you keep him why didn't you move on from it would make no sense to do that.

And so obviously Hendrickson would be a big play when it comes to that also on the other hand and I don't know if he would do this or not but there's not a lot of free agent especially top tier free agents that feels like layups but this one kind of does feel like a layup for Tampa Bay and it's possible because he wants to be in Tampa maybe he does take one year less than he would have if he went to Dallas or takes you know five million less or 10 million less to play in Tampa because he wants to be there.

So you might even be able to get him for cheap but regardless you're going to have to pay him you got to play like that you're going to have to pay him for sure.

I tell it next we're going to do our mock draft Monday who does Tom Fernelli from CPS courts have Tampa Bay taking we'll talk about that next.

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Another PM Eastern time it doesn't take anything away from what James does he does great work Monday through Friday again he was hard at work today especially with all this free agency chaos going on but.

So CBS sports is Tom Fernelli put out his latest mock draft i say latest it took place actually on on the four so about five days ago but.

So this is before a lot of these free agency moves happen still with that being said he has Tampa Bay taking TJ Parker the edge from Clemson he said the production didn't always match the traits during his time at Clemson.

But TJ Parker would add another body to a Tampa pass rush that could use more help i've been a big fan of TJ Parker i've said it many times i i think.

Because of how high on him i am i wouldn't mind taking him at 15 with that being said because of where he's usually mocked.

This seems like a perfect trade down get some more draft capital later even if it's a 5 6 7 gram pick whatever trade down a little bit and then take a guy like this but i am very high on TJ Parker because i think the potential is outrageous you just have to unleash it consistently.

Yeah and i think in that article it's again Tom Fernelli mentions that that's that TJ is technically it's 49th rated prospect which again insinuates if you're just and it never goes this way but if you're just insinuating value then he's still 30 plus picks away from being slaughtered where Tom Fernelli actually sees him.

You know but i think that also is an emphasis and even though it was a few days ago it's aging perfectly that's the biggest remaining need right now.

Now again as you guys said if they go get an edge that they like and it changes their draft process maybe they do shift the corner i can't necessarily see linebacker even if levante david informs them as soon as this shows off that that he's retiring.

Because linebackers in the first round are a little bit more of a stretch they're not like running backs but they're also not your guys pass rushing and protecting the passer and catching the ball and throwing the ball.

So you know you can have some debate on the narrative of linebackers in the top half of the first round but i would also say that guys like Jacob Rodriguez should be there in the second round and i think that he could end up being the best linebacker in the class.

So you know i think that ultimately this is a pretty good mock where you know the all the mocks in the last two weeks who've had Kenyans the Deek of Oregon you can just kind of rip those up put them in the trash take it out go recycle it i mean whatever you want to do with it because the box who just paid Kate oughten you know.

League average starting money are not now going to spend a first round pick on the Deek so i think that this is pretty much what the box will have determined how badly i mean what happens next up next week or so a free agency but how badly do they need the edge can they do they have two or three prospects they're happy enough with to where they can trade from 15 to 25 15 to 29 even i mean even trade the first round pick all together but get a first round pick in next year's draft you know that kind of thing.

That you're trying to accomplish when you trade down you know that that goes into how many do you actually like on the edge and what do you think your rival GMs are going to do what are what are they need up because you're not living in a vacuum if you really like T.J. Parker but you think he's going to be there in the 30s or late 20s but then you think that someone else really loves them to well they might trade in at 22 21 20 whatever.

Or and go swipe them up anyway so there's always that cat and mouse that exists in every draft so really the question is what do the bucks do the next few days with their current roster on the edge and then how badly does that need translate for you a month and a half later when you're ending up drafting and you might need someone in the first round and i hope that does not attack Marcus whatever that whatever that was.

I mean yes that's what good that's good technique for for DB great technique.

I'll tell you what man T.J. Parker I mean I obviously he's not the most elite guy in in in the draft so to take him at 15 that's awfully high I mean but at the same token like when you break his game down 64 260 he has an NFL length that they really really like.

And and and he really dominated I think more so in 2024 than he did in 25 I mean this year he had 11 sacks about 20 tackles for loss and the thing I like is that he's productive and disruptive before six fumbles you know he has an upper body strength to you know take some guys down and then when you have those long arms you can like reaching grad people like from a couple yards away it's called a long arm tackle.

I think he sets the edge well as as a good run defender he knows you know where he fits which gap he's supposed to be in he uses his hands and and so I you know I I.

I think there's some merit to getting him later I mean if that's where he lands meaning in Tampa Bay I don't think it'll be at that high of a pick but you know he's lacking some things to like you know at the point of attack sometimes he he's he's not he doesn't strike you.

The way you would always want to see and then every now and then he kind of gets out of his run lane whenever he kind of gets kicked out I think he spills the ball well and you know he's he just doesn't allow you as far as his pursuit you know chasing tackles from the backside because he he's a short strider to be a taller guy but I think he needs to also develop some more past rush moves I mean this isn't you know when you get to the NFL that's grown man.

That's grown man football so it's not like you're playing against a 19 year old at North care of it at NC State has a red shirt freshman or 20 year old that's that's in their learning and and you know so but also think too there was another guy I think Kendrick Faulk is a guy that would I could throw in my my back drive Monday he's the edge out of all Auburn so you know I mean he's a guy that I that I think he's you.

I think he's young he doesn't turn 21 until September he's a good run defender strong hands you know he has a high upside as a past rusher and I think he's productive and disruptive as well this engages in this this disrupts you know when he makes past rush moves but I don't know only thing about Kendrick is he's six six 276 and he can actually grow into an interior guy.

So if it's sort of the books go with it with a detackle at some point I think Kendrick would would would be that but TJ Parker I think that's a that's a tall order to take him at 15 unless those other guys go in front of him and what I mean by other guys you know talking about the usual suspects you talk about bang Bailey.

You know I just mentioned Faulk you got Peter Woods cash house so you know you got our Mason Thomas so there's some options there is it I don't think that if the bucks do go that route they are going to get a quality player but I think they need to get it right.

Yeah so TJ Parker is an interesting one because coming into this season every projection had him as a top five pick then he they changed defensive coordinators it's a kind of different scheme than what he will originally grew up in and he had the down here and now people aren't sure where he will fall.

And I feel bad because I was literally about to talk about this guy and then you just talk about how much you liked him Marcus but I was going to talk about how I'm not as high on Celtic fall who I've seen.

Now I still like to talk into your point Marcus he's very young that's the thing about culture because he's very young and raw and Ryan you can talk about him even more because you cover Auburn so you can talk about me more but he's very young and raw now.

He has ten sacks in three seasons and two sacks this past season on a really pretty good defensive Auburn this last year.

The thing about Celtic I think he's more of a project so I would take him later on and TJ Parker is a guy that I think I do like more than him.

I even like TJ Parker more than a keen mesador who a lot of people are now it's for the opposite reason of of Celtic because a keen is twenty five or whatever he is he's a very old prospect.

TJ but with all that being said it doesn't matter how high I'm on him what matters is what other teams are on him to Ryan's point there might be a lot of teams that don't see him as a first round pick well then that's great for you to trade down Tampa.

But on the flip side there's a team that's picks right behind you or true spots behind you that might have him as their top edge on the board and then you do have to take him at fifteen.

So all depends on what the teams behind him figure out and grade him at but Ryan question you about Celtic fork because I do see him a lot of times going to Tampa at fifteen.

I feel like he is the classic he is six six like Marcus said he's a freak athlete he's very long and he's just kind of getting drafted over that potential whether rather than the actual production I know he was what second team all SEC I think this past year but if you look at his numbers not a ton of production.

Yeah and the weird thing is so I kind of envision him more as a four three defensive end or if you're talking three four more of the Logan Hall defensive lineman position not the out edge as a kind of a just pure past pressure I think he's more of an every down lineman not on the nose but just an every down lineman so because you're right the production wasn't wasn't there.

From a sac standpoint but they like the technique and you mentioned he is young and he was good from day one in Auburn to I mean he really was as a freshman already getting reps and and and winning that job so I just think that positionally he's probably not a buck scheme fit unless they are really wanting to replace go ahead and replace Logan Hall or you know they're worried about collage of cancer cancies health

because cancies I think is really darn good when he's out there but he's just not been out there a ton these first few seasons so I think fuck will be a really good player I just don't think that's exactly what the box are trying to do with their schematics and with their truly higher position because they have to get the production part you know like they've got guys that are doing the little things well in the interior you know because even cancies may not wow you with a huge bit of production a huge line.

It's kind of statistics but we can all see cancies really effective when he's in there and I think Keldrick will be that kind of player but I think the box needs someone the edge that is cleaning up with Viva and collage of cancies start in the middle there the ones actually getting the numbers outside with you know that's why y'all y'all had seven sacks or whatever it was this year and you know they they need the guy that actually gets home and benefits off the work that the middle of the lines doing so you don't see like high lead pass rush upside from him.

I do not I think that he would be a seven to ten sack guy tops and I get I think you're talking more about just what he's doing on a down the down rep to rep base is not necessarily anything overly flashy.

And I think the bucks need someone who can get home like that can defeat one on one blockers I mean you you as good as these offensive tackles are in the league you still need an edge rusher that can find a way.

To that you don't have to scheme him into sacks I mean earlier in the season they were sacking people by committee and and that obviously ran its course once people figured it out.

But when you have a guy that can completely change an entire game plan where you know like you know obviously miles gear just for example I mean he he's a he's a problem you know guys like Von Miller when they were young and Khalil Mac.

But if the bucks can find a way to get the production out of a out of that position it will upgrade some things on the back end and then it'll make those linebackers life a lot easy easier.

And my opinion just go sign tray Hendrix and then you'll have to make a call with an edge early on because I like armace and Thomas more than any of those guys I mentioned but he's clearly a second round pick due to size.

We did just get some breaking news Devon Lloyd has officially signed but he went to Carolina so that's another one you can mark off the board went to the Carolina Panthers.

All right that's going to do it for the buck squad show we'll be back Wednesday night officially the first day of free agency I know the tampering period is going on right now but officially the first day.

Of a crazy on Wednesday so we'll talk about a lot of these signings and more signings.

I bet tray Hendrix and news is dropped by then I bet Levon David news is dropped by then so we'll talk about all that on Wednesday but until next time fire the Kings.

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