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Burn the Script with Jo Lein

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In this episode, host Mike Caldwell sits down with Jo Lane, an educator support and instructional coach with 16 years of experience, who is currently a principal coach based in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Jo shares insights from her new book, Burn the Script: How Great Coaches Disrupt Thinking and Transform Practice, released May 19th.

The conversation dives deep into the concept of "mental fossils" — the ingrained beliefs and behavioral scripts educators develop from past professional experiences that often hold them back from growth. Jo breaks down how beliefs are anchored by three factors: skill, identity, and value, and explains why simply teaching a skill isn't enough to change behavior if underlying beliefs aren't addressed.


Show Notes:

Substack: EduCoach by Jo Lein

LinkedIn: Jo Lein

Book: Burn the Script: How Great Coaches Disrupt Mindsets and Transform Practice

Instagram/TikTok: @educoachbyjo


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