Buzz Back in Miami? Should Bam Adebayo Be the Heat's No. 1 Option?

With half the world praising Bam and Bio for his historic 83 point outing,

and the other half grabbing their ethical pitchforks,

we look ahead to how Bam's big night might change things for the heat moving forward.

Wes, does 83 points change how Eric Spolster runs his offense?

It depends, our team's going to be triple teaming Bam going forward.

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A ton to get to today, we're still dealing with the fallout of Bam and Bio's historic 83 point

night from Tuesday nights, win over the wizards.

And we didn't get a chance to touch on this on our post game show or in our bonus episode,

covering a bunch of different kind of bases on all of this stuff.

But after the game, both Bam and Bio and Eric Spolster referenced a recent quote from Dwayne Wade,

Dwayne Wade had Shaquille O'Neal on his podcast recently and Wade made the remark that there's

not a buzz around the Miami Heat within the city of Miami. And it was something that the team

itself took issue with and might have actually spurred on this 83 point performance by Bam

at a Bio. I want to play for you Dwayne Wade's quote. And then I'm going to share with you

what Bam at a Bio and Eric Spolster had to say directly to Dwayne Wade after the 83 point night.

Let's start with Dwayne's quote says this. I'm on the other side. The city needs to be

walking up. It's not it's not a live number. You know when we was here, but it was buzzing in these

streets. We've been here the last couple of days. There's an ain't none buzzing outside.

And then that all I have to go home really. Bro, I'm going, I'm leaving. I'm leaving too.

I thought about to stay here. I'm getting out of here. There's no energy here. This city deserves

and needs a person that can bring that energy here and take it over. There's nobody, no one's here.

He would take me to that standpoint of that buzz and that energy. When he came,

he changed the entire, the culture here shifted. When Brian and Ken, so I felt it alive and I

felt it buzzing. Then I was out. I've been out here the last couple of days. I'm sleepy.

I've been in the house smoking hooker right here. I'm sleeping. Big break spot.

I mean, before I play for you, the sound from Bam and Spowe David, we haven't even talked about

that clip since it came out. When you hear Dwayne say something like they need somebody. He says

somebody specifically to come in the way that Dwayne did, the way that Shaq did, the way that

LeBron did and provided type of energy to the city of Miami around the Miami Heat organization.

Your response is what? Agree. Absolutely. I've been covering the team for the last few years.

We know what the response for the fan base has been. Even the run to the finals, not that long ago,

a run to the finals that was historic in its own context, improbable, very rare.

There are so many teams that have failed to make the playoffs in recent years for long stretches

that have gone into full tanking and rebuilding mode that have taken over almost decades

in order to complete and have yielded very little results. That buzz was great, but it's worn off.

That was years ago. Since then, a lot of fans have just looked at the product on the court and

been kind of home about it. I think the last time there was any kind of real emotional attachment

to this team was during the days leading up to the trade of Jimmy Butler. That was, again,

you have to consider the peripheral fan, not the hardcore fans, and even the fans that are listening

to the show, of which we get plenty of vitriol. But I'm saying that the peripheral fan that

hears about the Miami Heat, what are they going to say? Everybody that asked me that has any kind

of passing interest in basketball, what about the heat this year? They don't know. They don't care.

There's nothing of excitement there to kind of generate any focal point. You can't really pin

point any one specific thing that you're going to talk about. He's like, you know what? Andrew Wiggins

really raises the floor for this team. What's there to talk about? So I totally understand that

perspective from Dwayne Wade and Shaquille Neal and Dwayne's right. I mean, you were there. You

know what it was like when Shaq was acquired by this team. Miami went from a team that had been

really good and had created this reputation patterned after Pat Riley and his connected, you know,

blue collar roots, et cetera, to be this tough mean team that was always in these great playoff

battles against the New York Knicks. And then they were not. There was a couple of years where

they were really abysmal. And of course, then they draft Dwayne Wade and he gives them some promise.

But you know, it was a good team with a nice young star player or a player on the rise, not even a

star. There was Shaquille Neal. There was buzz immediately. It was, oh, this guy's special. We

haven't seen anything quite like this here as a rookie in Miami. In Miami, maybe there were some

buzzer. Hey, that Dwayne Wade kid. Pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. That's about it. I mean, it wasn't like

people. And then Shaq came and we've talked about that. That's changed the organization

in the Bronx 2010. And that was Beatle Mania, right? Yeah. That's what I would argue. You just

said, what what what would happen for there to be any buzz around this team? I would argue for

most teams trading to end of bench role players rotation, barely rotation guys for an all-star,

like Norm Powell. There would be enough to give a lot of organization some buzz. But to your point,

David, not this one, not this one that's used to those two guys sitting in those chairs,

talking about the other guy who might be the greatest player of all time, right? The standard

that they brought here is way, I mean, we're talking about such a high bar in terms of overall,

not just as a basketball players. And those are three of the greatest ones to ever do it.

But from celebrity and star power too, I mean, look at Dwayne Wade in his post NBA career now.

I mean, he's an absolute celebrity. LeBron is obviously is iconic as Michael Jordan almost.

And then obviously Shaq, we know about his success. So, you know, I do think that it's a little

funny for those guys to sit there and talk about. There's no buzz because they I don't know that

there's ever been any kind of buzz like Dwayne Wade and LeBron James teaming up in 2010 like that's

an impossible standard, right? No, we're not here in 2006. I mean, Shaq is the busiest of the

buzz guys, right? I've your stories all the time about Shaq, Shaq Killaniel can't walk around in any

city because people are just coming up to him non-stop asking for autographs and pictures. So,

I do, but I do think the overall point that Dwayne is making is a fair one. There is no buzz.

And I would say that the genesis of the lack of buzz, I don't think there was much buzz even,

you know, we talked about the 2023 finals run. There was no buzz before that playoffs.

You know, they were a play in team again. Yeah. And you and I, I mean, that was one of the most

miserable regular seasons. I remember covering because they were coming off of 2022 where they're

the number one city in the East take the Boston Celtics to seven games and then they just sort of

fall flat on their face and stumble to the playing tournament afterwards. And it was right there

that you could kind of sense that Jimmy Butler didn't really care about the regular season anymore

and that there was a sort of a wayward team that needed this extra star and couldn't get it.

And then in the summer of 2023, after the buzz of that finals run, and that was very exciting.

But right after that, it kind of, the wind comes out of the sales because of the failure to land

Daniel and Lillard. And at that point, everything became about getting a star player.

Everything about the Miami Heat. You just said the number one thing people ask you about the

heat is what's going on with the heat. The number one thing I get is when are we going to trade

for a star? It doesn't matter what this team does on a basketball court. It doesn't matter

who it doesn't matter if they trade for an all star like Norm Powell until they get a superstar

at that level of a bronze shack D Wade there and they win a championship or competing with the

champion. There is going not there is not going to be that kind of buzz that D Wade and Shaquille

and Neil are sitting there and talking about. And that's why it makes us bam at a bio game so

interesting because he did a thing that none of those guys have ever even come close to doing

in scoring 83 points. That is a type of thing that only a superstar historically could or ever

has done. And now BAM at a bio has done it. And I do think it's interesting to see whether or not

that creates some buzz. I want to quickly play the reaction from BAM and Eric Spulster

after Tuesday night's game. So they both referenced Dwayne Wade specifically here.

I don't know what he's trying to do actually like I don't know if he's trying to like roll us up

or like he got to understand we went through COVID it's a different time.

But all that said I feel like it's a lot of buzz tonight not only here but in association.

You know I know that that clip has been floating around out there but Dwayne said there's not

a buzz about the Miami Heat. Well you know we feel a certain way about that you know Dwayne is

one of our own so I love you Dwayne but that also serves as motivation you know to all of us but

again more so to BAM than probably anyone and Tyler you know they've been in this program

and all of a sudden you know that competitive will it can manifest itself in a bunch of

different ways and in this way it just became a moment in history in this league and there will

be a buzz you know about the heat now you know we'll wake up tomorrow.

I want to talk about that clip David whether or not there is a buzz now around the Miami Heat.

Plus what do they do about this going forward? Do they need to change the offense? Is this a spark

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on heat dot super cast calm and become a true every day or they've right before we went to the

break there I played for you bams response and suppose response to dwayne wade calling them out

for a lack of buzz in the city they'm going out of their way to talk about that

I'm gonna ask this question somewhat facetiously but I do think it's a good jumping off point

for me the next part of this conversation is bant dwayne wade gets so much credit for so much

of the heat success over the years does he also get credit for bams 83 point game at least somewhat

absolutely not I don't think bam had that even in the back of his mind I was he was approaching

the matchup on Tuesday versus the wizards I don't think he was thinking about it I think he

was just asked about it specifically in the post game interview and did you respond to it as

they're exposed to it but you know I it's a good talking point like again I mean I'm not surprised

by what dwayne said and I think it's a valid point to bring up now if he's talking about

something more along the transactional nature of things like if the team was successful and again

with basketball with such a long season 82 games think about think about the Florida Panthers

this is another example I know that fans here in South Florida will talk about the Panthers

but they don't really talk about the Panthers it's not the same thing as a you know the 17 game

NFL season or whatever it's it's different with every loss or win in the NFL

your week is defined for you you know I I didn't remember that as a football fan like you know

Sunday comes around your team loses you don't get over that hangover until Wednesday and then

you can start looking ahead to the next couple days it's like this very weird cycle where if you

lose on Sunday the next three days suck and then you kind of start building your way out of it

of the hope that your weekend will turns around and I think there was buzz about the Miami Hurricanes

I think because again that's a football season a short and season in the games matter more

more and then with the Florida Panthers they've won a championship but the buzz doesn't really

build around that team until the post season and so for the heat it's no different like they

haven't accomplished anything like they're the six seeds of a seed or competing for the fifth seed

I mean it's what's there to be excited about so I think the transactional nature of the NBA

has really changed the way that fans kind of interact with basketball in general they kind of

look at it a little differently the 82 games don't matter as much on a night-to-night basis

unless you have a historic performance from what we saw from band-by you need the Hollywood celebrity

aspect of it right going back to LeBron de Wade and Shaq those guys were must watch television

every single night they made the regular season matter because you never knew what was going to happen

what kind of crazy highlight do you wait or LeBron we're going to put together what kind of not

seeing somebody like Shaquille O'Neill for the first time here in 2006 the size of his celebrity on

on your basketball court we never seen anything quite like that so that they made it they made

these Miami Heat games all 82 of them must watch TV Bams not gonna score 83 points every single night

I don't know that Bams is must watch TV but I'll tell you this you're gonna watch the next one

right you're gonna watch the next one to just see what he's gonna do and how you respond to this

as something that we'll talk about here in a little bit I did want to ask you this other question

though because I do think that you know I talked to a lot of people in you know the hours since

this has all happened and over at Lockdown NBA Daily Matt Moore and Hayes my co-host there

both said that this is more like a blip and just sort of a thing that goes on the resume

than anything that's like a tangible sort of turning point for BAM out of bio and I don't know

that that's true nobody really knows it is true we can discuss it we can debate it whatever

I do wonder though if what we saw from BAM and not just with the 83 points but you know these

averaging 25 points per game since the all star break we've talked a lot about the evolving

aspects of his offensive game the fact that he has been more aggressive over the last couple of

months that he is basically averaging 22 and 10 over the last two months and you know we made his

all NBA case before the 83 point game like this is a guy who I feel like taking the leap might

sound strong but he's definitely leveling up in some regard and I do wonder should Spode change

the offense now to maximize and emphasize BAM out of bio more because right now for the season he's

third on the team and usage rate behind Norm Pal and Tyler Hero this is very much a perimeter oriented

offense Spode talked about this after the game last night how BAM has found his place in the offense

and is more comfortable than he's ever been in the offense and I do think that has that's

definitely true and I think we're seeing some of the fruits of that again even before this 83 point

night so I wonder like is it time to maximize BAM is it time to turn him into the number one

option of this offense for better or for worse no absolutely no I think we had this discussion before

I think it was even last year going into the season we had heard about BAM's expanding range and

it was going to be more of an arsenal and it looked legitimate in the preseason and I remember

as we were making arable predictions for the upcoming season I think I said that you know BAM would

be in the MVP consideration obviously that didn't work out that right the season kind of tanked

and you know that we've had this discussion before like BAM has added to his games specifically

with a three point shot it was the one thing kind of keeping him from being part of that conversation

but I think the book is out I mean similarly to the conversations we've had about Taylor Rezier like

BAM is who he is the 83 point night I think is a blip and that's perfectly fine because it's a

historic blip you know I don't know if it's the same context as say Tony delts 50 point game or

anything like that like a Corey Brewer's 50 point game those are different players I think those

are even lesser role players than than BAM at bio but 83 points is completely different and I

think it was just a perfect storm kind of converging to lead to that explosion no Tyler here

no nor pal in the lineup think about how that would have changed with both of them had been out there

the fact that it's a really bad wizard's team that didn't have a legitimate option to defend

whether it was Alex Skaar or Alex Skaar excuse me or Buchi Vitch or Anthony Gill or anybody else like

they didn't have an option there and so BAM took advantage he was hot shooting at first

just an incredible burst in speed and athleticism to be able to get past any primary defender and

you know the wizards are a disinterested bland team and they couldn't defend them very well

and then not until late in the game when they decide maybe we should try a little bit because

we've got a little bit of private stake here did it seem like they had any kind of ability to

even challenge what BAM was able to do and even then it really wasn't that much and so I don't

know I I don't think that Eric Spolstrom should change what has worked I mean okay I want to push

back right there I'm gonna jump in because has it worked this team yes it's worked I mean

it's mostly been a playing team right okay but they've won five games in a row okay they've won six

games in a row but they've mostly been a playing team and by the way like as we talked about they've

won six games in a row because BAM has been playing really well and and specifically over this last

stretch I don't know I do think that there's you said that we've seen this before and we've

been down this road before and that's absolutely true we've definitely had these conversations before

I would say the difference between the last few times that we've had these conversations every

other time we've had this conversation and this time is we've actually seen some of the stuff

that has been talked about right there's a very big difference of BAM taking 23s and a pink

and white game versus doing it the way he's doing it now he's got his next three pointer that he

makes is going to tie the total amount of threes that he's made in his first eight seasons combined

all right that number is 102 he's already made 101 threes this year that's not talking about it

and telling you you're going to work that's doing it right I mean BAM a year ago couldn't have

scored 83 points in a game I don't care if what kind of Washington wizard's team he was playing

that this never would have happened and I do think that he's capable of doing more than he's ever

done before offensively now what does that look like I don't think he suddenly becomes

Kobe Bryant offensively right like that's not what we're talking about here but like I said

third in usage on the heat behind Powell and hero I think you can make the argument that based on

how he's played and his status on this team as a 10,000 point score or only the second one in

heat history maybe he should just be the number one option now maybe he they should try it right

because like I said you've been a middling team when with this perimeter oriented kind of thing

for a long time maybe you just try giving the ball to BAM more and empowering him or he might have

just deserved it he's 65th in the NBA in usage right like he's got the same usage rate as R.J.

Barrett and Toronto I do wonder what this would look like if he was closer to a 30% usage player

right now he's at about 26% 25% what if he was like a 30% usage player like Devon Booker and Phoenix

do you think BAM wants this because I don't and I don't I don't I think we've I think he's had

the opportunity to be this player he's been given those chances and I don't know

but now he's at the conference now he's at an 83 game I'm on I'm not playing game under his belt

and no I'm telling you this is what I talked about yesterday this changes somebody man

you have the most points scored since wilt in a game no I I think that fundamentally changes who

you can who you can be as a player absolutely not absolutely not I think you land a big deal in your

job uh you make the right pitch you you sail you sell the big whatever that you're got to sell

like those are great moments in whatever respective career you have that's not going to change

you now it's like oh I've got that big sell and now all of a sudden I'm going to change everything

and change my approach to everything I don't think it works that way I just I just told

I think BAM has had this opportunity BAM has always been confident BAM is always he's he knows

he's a star he's told me years ago before 83 points before a couple of all star selections before

run of the finals hell yeah I'm a hall of favor and at the time I remember talking to you about it

and thinking wow that's that's kind of bold and fans dismissing it completely but BAM has always

had that belief what's the difference now it's like yeah now he's got the big night to prove it

yeah I think that matters we've always he's gonna walk in his office and be like make me the man

not necessarily but I do think we could see BAM just be more aggressive because there's going

to be a confidence about him and that's the thing that we've been asking for all along we got

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do now and when I say now I mean now when the heat play the bucks on Thursday night what is this

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the Miami Heat play the Milwaukee Bucks tonight Thursday night it's the first game since

Bam out of bio's 83 point performance and I have to wonder what it look what do you do now

if you're Bam out of bio right Kobe scored 81 points in his next three games he scored more

than 30 in each of those games more than 40 in one of those games I don't this is so unprecedented

we've never seen a player who averaged 16 points per game for his career score 70 80 plus points

in a game I have no idea what this looks like for Bam also Tyler hero should be back they could

get some other rotation players back hopefully claw wear his back as we're recording this we don't

have the latest injury report but that's going to be a factor in this I do wonder though and going

back to the conversation we were just having David like if you're Bam I do think that there is

a little bit of everybody's told me to be aggressive all along and and I was and then this happened

and I know it's not that simple but I I can't help but wonder if you just don't walk with a little

bit more swagger in your step after that 83 point game and say like you know what let's

let's make me the number one I'm gonna reframe this for you David would you be okay with this

scenario that Miami sort of rebrands Bam as an offensive focal point because right now and we've

had this conversation before the label around Bam the conversation about Bam defensive anchor

culture carrier culture setter offense we don't talk about that with him really very much yeah

now we have to at least partly because he's got an 83 point game now you offense now becomes part

again the first line in Bam's retirement column when he eventually does leave basketball

is going to be the 83 point game not the defensive player and not not the all defensive teams

not the gold medals nothing 83 points now becomes the defining stat for Bam it's an offensive

stat unlike we've ever seen should they start rebranding him as an offensive focal point talking

about him more nudging him in that direction even if it means taking a step back defensively

now we've seen this for guys like Kauai right who was this defensive player of the year in San Antonio

then elevated his game slowly but surely turned into an offensive superstar goes to Toronto

absolutely explodes helps them win a chain I'm not saying Bam is going to turn into the next

Kauai I'm just saying we've kind of that's the closest thing I could think of in terms of

like just absolute stud defensively who worked diligently on their offensive game until they

became something more than what they had been drafted as and something that we didn't really see

coming that's what Bam is sort of done here already is there another stage of that though because

then now we see a Kauai taking that step back a little bit defensively still good defender but I

think nobody would say he's what he was at his peak San Antonio dancer player the year years

would you be okay with Bam shifting more of that energy towards the offensive end and becoming

the number one option on this heat team offensively even if it means taking a slight step step back

defensively yeah man that ship has sailed he's we're talking about year nine that's not a leap

you making year nine look at Kauai's career hell we've got an example much closer to home Jimmy

Bollard like that was the guy who worked up his way from playing in Derek Rosa's shadow to

becoming a far far better player than Derek Rose ever was and that's something that you don't

really see but again that's a guy who went from 2.6 points per game in his rookie year to 20 points

per game in his fourth season Kauai went from eight points per game as a rookie to 22 points per game

in his fifth season like that's a whole different loop leap this is not a leap that's possible for

Bam and a bio he is who he's been and he's going to continue to be that player like you're asking me

specifically what I think is going to happen against Milwaukee bucks you know who I'm really curious

about Miles Turner I wonder what he's going to do because he's no Anthony Gill and we already know

there's a little bit of a rivalry between him and Bam and a bio and if you ask me right now and

I've been as big and vocal a supporter of what Bam and a bio has been and what he's capable of

doing I don't think he tops 25 against the Milwaukee bucks which you know kind of feeds the haters

and the critics all that much more but again you think Tyler is all of a sudden going to be like oh no

we're going to defer to Bam and a bio moving forward hell no that's not who he is

the beginning is have featured Bam lately right that that's been sort of a it planned thing like

let's get Bam involved early so I think we'll see that I agree yeah I do think there'll be a

little bit of from hero a little bit of more of a let's like let's just see what Bam's got like

is is this hot hand like basketball players sort of owe it to each other in that way and we

saw how happy all they were all were for Bam but I see your point and I can see it I definitely do

I was just I am curious though just to see what happens in this game against Milwaukee like how

many points does Bam have to score to make it so that people don't immediately just come back and

say see 40 plus I would go I was thinking like 30 but I think we're sort of in the same ballpark if

he scores 30 points it'll be like okay that was a really that was another great Bam game right

he's yeah he's he's always been a good score he's just always done all the little things first

of foremost but if he can share the full retaliatory hero and still push 35 to 40 points in my opinion

I think that kind of I think that kind of pushes back on the criticism a little bit and maybe

people will be like oh okay all right so maybe this has just always been in his bed and that's

just not what's been required of him with Miami Heat so I other than that though and again I

mean I think the Turner factor is really interesting you know Bobby Porter the honest facts are

two man yannis is a competitive MF or if he if he's playing in this game he's gonna come at Bam

and you know it right he's gonna try to block every single shot as that week side defender he's

gonna try to take it to make sure he's a high score for the game really interesting last thing

that I want to do here David the 83 point game I called the most improbable performance in NBA

history and I stand by it but I want to present to you three new stats that if these heat players

were to accomplish these stats which one of these would be the crazier stat and record to accomplish

okay so I just made these up what if Tyler hero becomes the third player since 1980 to grab 30

rebounds in a game will not will shack did it and Dwight Howard did it so Tyler hero third player

since 1980 to grab three rebounds in a game would that be crazier than Jaime Hawkeye's junior

breaking Clay's record for the most threes in a quarter at nine or Bam at a bio scoring 60 points

in another game at some point in his career which one of those three stats would be crazier to you

I think any NBA player almost any NBA player can can catch fire Clay obviously

a historic shooter but I'm more inclined to think that given opportunity and the right game

situation a lot of players I'm not going to go so far to diminish what he was able to accomplish

and say they think it matched that level of production but I think they could come pretty close

it would be as much of an aberration if it came from say Jaime who's not known as a three point

shooter wow that's an interesting one yeah Bam wasn't known as a score and he scored 83

and that's tough uh anything's possible yeah well the wizard zero they'll come into town at

least twice more right I think so the 60 point out they should try to break some crazy record every

time they play the wizards from now until the end of the season yeah let's make sure you get

Brian Keith absolutely fine you had a problem with that padding before just wait until four guys

are boxing out to make sure Tyler hero grabs his 29-3 bound in the hilarious yeah circa Westbrook's

MVP run we're Steven Adams's bucks that has to be the answer right hero hero becoming the third

players since 1980 to grab 30 rebounds a really good rebounder for as a guard but yeah I think it's

not that good not 30 rebounds plus no that's not gonna happen thanks for tuning in today to

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