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All right.
Welcome back to by order of the faithful survivor edition.
Wells Adams here alongside Dolores Catania.
And we're welcoming me in Kim Sprout and Wolf,
who we had on the last episode.
Just kind of talking about her experience as a two-time survivor.
And now let's go and start recapping episode five from season 50s.
Just right off the bat, Kim, are you enjoying this?
Or is it a little PTSD from the last time you were on survivor?
No, I have healed up nicely.
I've been to a lot of housing.
And initially it was PTSD.
I took a break.
And now I'm watching again.
I'm really enjoying it.
We're back at the Vantoo Tribe after they voted out.
Mike White.
You know, in the last episode you were talking about one of the things that you are not sure
if the audience or the younger audience cares about is having celebrities on vis-a-vis the
Zach Brown kind of cameo.
Mike White kind of lives in this dual world where he is the celebrity,
but also like a tried and true survivor guy.
Or were you happy to see him back or sad to see him go?
Both.
So happy to see Mike White back.
I think he's so fun to watch.
He's an incredible character on the show.
I think it brings this really fun dynamic.
I had already looked at my husband and said, oh, how many survivor people do you think are trying
to think about how they could position themselves for a white lotus cameo before they ever
even mentioned the Aussie was.
And then so sad to see him go.
But I do think it was a smart vote out.
I think he was very strategic in a really good spot.
And everyone loved him.
Yeah.
So lovable.
What's not to love?
I mean, so funny.
I think he went a little hard there.
I think he could have chilled out.
It was an early play, I think, for him to go after his own alliance.
Yeah.
I feel like he recognized that he had an advantage in the fact that everyone wanted to be
on his show and that ended up kind of hurting him because I think he played a little loose and fast.
One person that was very upset about the move is Aussie throwing this mini tantrum because he was left out of the vote.
A similar situation happened to him in the past season with his number one ally and John.
Is a survivor PTSD like real?
Or is this just a storyline for the show or this is just him being able to leverage kind of like feeling screwed over
and being able to use that going forward with everyone on his tribe?
I thought they did a really good job of like paralleling those two scenes and like the juxtaposition of that.
Is I think it's real?
Is it real like, you know, war zone PTSD?
Probably not, but in a sense that like, relationally, you know, you've been through like a bad breakup.
You find yourself in a situation with a trigger and that feels very real.
I think survivor, I would put that, you know, in line there.
I'm interested to see people freak out on survivor.
I don't know sometimes that that's an intentional choice if they think that, you know, they're going to create type of a dynamic by freaking out.
I always felt like not to freak out, you know, like I would feel freaking out on the inside but then choose to like put forth the part of myself that I wanted to show everyone.
It's always interesting me when I feel like people actually lose it out there because I don't feel like I ever did, you know, in front of everyone else.
Maybe in hiding in the leaves, you know, crying.
But I didn't ever like put that camera forward or tribe forward.
So I kind of felt like that was just, you know, he was a little bit out of control.
Well, that's a skill that you have not everyone can do that.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I mean, I felt like that was a real, and I do, and everyone kept saying this very much understood.
It's such a bad feeling to go sit out there and think you know what's about to happen and then realize.
And this happened to me and winners at worst several times.
Like I was like, OK, I'm 100% out.
Like I am not a part of this.
They're all talking and they are not talking to me.
And that is such a frustrating feeling.
It's paranoia too. It happens on my show too.
I think it happens on all the reality shows.
It breeds paranoia, no matter where you are, especially a game show more than anything.
And it feels like betrayal, you know, of course, even in real life.
It's something about it.
Like you would in real life, like cut these people out of your life or set a healthy boundary.
But you can't because you're stuck on an island with them and you're playing a reality, you know, you're on a game show.
So.
Do you think that Ozzy kind of regretted his freak out the next day?
Because you know, the next morning you see him meditating and he's trying to clear his mind.
And is this, you know, heart to heart with Christian?
Like do you think you had like a little bit of remorse from what you did?
And he was trying to mend some fences?
Absolutely.
But that was interesting to see that energy shift, you know, I don't know if you all noticed this.
I felt like Christian was really groveling the entire remainder of the episode.
Every time you see him, he's like, everybody agree?
You know, it just felt like he was like overcompensating and trying so hard.
Like he was aware that he had put himself on the outs.
I think he made a move too quickly too.
Yeah.
Over at Seal of the Tribe, Swap has made things very interesting for them.
There are four original Caleb members, Jonathan Charlie, Camilla, and Dee.
So they had the majority.
I thought this was funny.
I always liked the comedy in any reality show and Rick Farks multiple times.
He steps on a duck.
He says, as they were walking through the jungle, we were wondering this last weekend on a scale of one to ten.
I think we're in day 10 or 11 on a scale of one to ten.
How bad are you smelling at this point?
Bad.
Bad.
I think it's like the 13-year-old boy in you that's still there that loves the fart stuff.
Yeah.
God.
No jokes.
No, everybody smells horrible.
But I will say, and I still have my bags in my garage and giants at blocks in a Tupperware.
I open them up that smell, you know, and it's been 15 years.
But it's like the overarching smell of campfire, I will say.
Like it's fire on top of just gross.
So you can tell by the way that the production team is like, you know, they've got their bandanas up when they come around us.
I think it's like animals.
Didn't somebody put something on their beer to smell?
We had it.
Yes.
Who was it?
They put, they put carmex on their mustache.
That's it.
Carmex.
I love this smell.
Carmex.
That's a great idea.
I've ever come back.
I'll put it on my mustache that I grow while I'm there.
Yeah.
All right.
Last question.
Did you guys have a toothbrush?
No, but we do take little bamboo sticks at the end as many times as you can.
And then you start using it and it gets kind of soft and fuzzy.
And I will say, I went back from survivor, went to my dentist the week I got back and they were like, wow, your teeth look great.
And they didn't know I had gone.
And so I think in some ways, you know, the lack of probably what you're not eating in combination of being bored and sitting around for hours of the bamboo stick, you know, you can take pretty.
Yeah.
Kim, I don't know that I can do this.
I honestly, I swear to, I don't think I can do it.
It's awful.
It's absolutely awful.
Whatever you're imagining to be in so much worse, I promise.
Yeah.
And humiliating in every way.
I tell all my friends, I'm like, I'm watching survivor.
They don't even have soap.
It's so bad.
I'm obsessed.
I can't, I don't understand.
Like after like a week, I don't know how you do it.
Probably not.
I, as a young person, like I, when I went older, women my age would say to me, have no interest would never do it.
And I thought that was shocking because I felt like I had won the lottery just to go.
But now I get why people would not want to go.
But $1 million is a lot of money.
Yeah.
It's six eight, you know, like 600 after taxes.
Maybe it's not that great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is the truth worth the squeeze you have to decide.
I think 600 is pretty good.
Sure.
I think you're getting the 600 should go obviously.
Yeah, for sure.
Do you guys get paid episodically though?
Like for every episode, you make it through, you make some more money.
I didn't know.
And like halfway in the rest of the cast who had read the contract started talking about that.
Oh, you didn't read the contract.
If you die, you know, it was just like sign, sign, sign.
Yes.
So at some point, I guess it's merged.
You make like 20.
It was for our season, like $2,500 every tribal, you know, which accumulates.
I think runner up gets like 100 something.
Third place is like 80 something, you know, kind of on a lighting scale.
It's what they're paying some of these, you know, celebrities.
Celebrations.
Celebrations.
An appearance fee, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Not enough.
Not enough.
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Coach is boasting about his new and improved social game.
And his knowledge about Japanese folklore.
He's dubbed himself tide walker.
He goes through things.
Yes.
Instead of crushing that.
If he's walking around the obstacles instead of over them.
Yeah.
And so this is like a vast difference between his other persona,
which is the dragon warrior.
This thing guy.
It's the same.
I got to be honest with you.
So, you know, he goes and he starts nighting people.
Right?
He nights Colby.
What does he have the stone bell?
Oh, yeah.
Monk goes to Joe.
I would think I would be like,
who do you think you are?
No, that's what it is.
It's like this.
Nightingale.
Like, Kim, is he like this in real life?
Do you have you met him?
I have never met him.
I have never met coach in real life.
You know, I think this is a perfect example of like Joe.
Number one was very touched.
And I think honored to receive the, you know,
the title of the month.
And I think I was really meaningful to him.
And so, you know, whatever dynamic happened there.
And then watching Colby, who was very tickled,
I think you could tell and kind of thought it was funny.
But it was, you know, savvy enough to not laugh about it
in front of coach or Joe.
I am not nice about a lot of things.
And I would be like, listen, Corn Ball.
Joan, I probably wouldn't do well.
But they would have voted you out next.
Besides not eating.
I would have been like, you know, I am known.
I can play the game.
I could definitely play the game.
And I would have had to like it.
But it wouldn't have been easy.
What would your nickname would have been?
I don't know what mine would have been.
Gosh, I have no idea what coach would nickname me.
We don't think like him.
Well, what would your nickname be?
I do a Kimbo slice.
I don't know.
I don't have a Japanese tied walker nickname.
I think if you have a mob name.
Yeah.
I would just be, I would be like really annoyed by it.
I'd be like, like the disgruntled traveler.
What do you call Kim the wolf?
The hungry disgruntled traveler.
I'm hungry.
And I'm annoyed that you're not.
I've seen you angry before.
I do think it's such a part of survivor is like putting up with these eccentric personalities.
Because that's why they're casted.
That's why they're there.
My first season was full of like the most eccentric personalities.
There were all these conversations that I thought were nuts.
And I am like a eye contact, you know, laugh at a inappropriate time type of a person.
And so I think that's one of the hardest parts is just like avoiding all the pitfalls.
Because it's a perfect like Charlie and Rizzo.
This is a great example to me of this exact thing.
Something that, you know, should not have been, you know, what it was for Charlie,
this fixation on this comment that Rizzo made.
And he made it in passing and conversation.
You could tell they were like around the campfire chatting it up.
And that was such a bad misstep on Rizzo to share that information.
Something like not honorably receiving your name from coach can literally get you, you know,
ousted at the next tribal.
So you just have to navigate all those little social moments so carefully.
Let's talk about Charlie and Rizzo.
Charlie wakes up Rizzo who's sleeping in a boat to crack a dawn.
Charlie lies and claims Jonathan acted like he knew about Rizzo's idol.
So he told Jonathan about it.
Rizzo begins operation, bad blood in honor of Charlie's love for Taylor Swift.
Little does he know we're supposed to be talking about Billy Eilish, not Taylor Swift.
Anyways, he recruits D to vote out Charlie next.
He kind of starts this whole operation to get Charlie out.
You know, you said that Rizzo kind of misstep by saying that kind of thing in passing around the fire.
But I almost feel like Charlie has made the misstep knowing what happens going forward with this whole thing.
Yeah, what is your thought on these two relationships and how it's going to look going forward?
Like you said, obviously Charlie, like I don't know how many times they had him say that in the confessional that he was so upset that Rizzo had voted out as number one instead of voting for the best player.
I don't particularly see, you know, a great problem with that.
You know, it's like I think that that's kind of a, you know, an honorable survivor mentality is like I'm going to vote for the person at the end of the day that I thought played the best game.
So that was so interesting to me, his fixation.
And I think that hints back to like the PTSD from his first experience, his first season.
Moving forward, this leaves Jonathan in a super interesting position, right?
I thought I was needing to watch what D and Camille did really because they chose Rizzo and three over this, you know, original alliance.
And so now you've got Jonathan floating, you've got Rick floating, Christian and Rick kind of go together.
I just think this really solidified kind of how these two groups are going to sort of break out at the merge, leaving, you know, and then you've got Ozzy and three.
So just watching how all these people are going to come back together, that was a clear severing of a relationship between D and Jonathan and that original alliance from their first try, right?
Like that was, that was a break.
Yeah, I agree.
That will go back.
Yeah.
Well, we get to the immunity challenge, Jeff reveals that only one tribe will receive immunity.
It seemed like everyone kind of knew this was coming.
You guys have a sense of like, this is me the one where there's a bloodbath at the end of this episode.
I could not remember a particular time where that happened with me.
But yeah, it definitely seemed like it was something that they were kind of like anticipating or waiting on and we're not shocked.
My wonder is is like, hey, we got to, we got to get someone that's not in Vatu to get kicked off this show.
Because it seems like no matter what they do, they're always just going.
Right.
Because like, one of their numbers are depleted.
They've gotten rid of a lot of like, they're really strong players for challenge.
And it seemed like, it seemed like a, a, a producer real thing of like,
okay, we got to figure out a way to get someone from Kalo or Sila out with Vatu, which ends up happening.
At, at this point in the game, we kind of talked about it last episode with you, but like, these challenges,
they're physically demanding, but I can't imagine how physically they demanding they are when you haven't had like,
any calories in your body.
Like, I imagine in the middle of these things, like, sometimes if I haven't eaten like, today and I go do a workout,
I'm like, oh, I bloodshed her, it's really low. I'm struggling with it.
When you're doing these challenges, are you like, I might pass out.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Interestingly enough, I think it is like what you're talking about is just thinking about, you know,
I try to work out three or four days a week when I get there.
Sometimes I feel awesome and sometimes I feel horrible and I want to quit in the middle and walk out
and like pretend that something happened at work that I have to go deal with because I can't imagine finishing it.
And I feel like, same way, it's that weird thing where even though you don't have calories and I'm sure it's on a different scale,
sometimes you feel great and sometimes you feel like you are going to fall in the sand and you can't even walk, you know,
out of scene, you know.
Like for me, I remember 14 days was where I really felt the hunger hit.
Leading up to that, I kind of felt like my body was using its reserves.
But I remember around 14 days, around two weeks, I was like, wow, like I'm dizzy when I stand out.
My blood pressure is really low.
I think there was a challenge where, you know, they check you with medical before and after.
My blood pressure was so low that they were like arguing if we could compete in this challenge
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So the physical part of it is such a such an important part.
Like watching Joe and they were like, Joe's gassed and he was, you know, I'm talking about when he was coming through
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So that just shows you, you know, what they're up against.
But the sand digging is the worst and you don't even have to dig in the sand.
It's like a real day on a good day on a good day.
Yeah. And it feels horrible when you have to do it out there.
We just feel like, I mean, if you don't win these challenges in the beginning,
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And how do you even turn that around?
You just have to, it's almost that look at this point are real grit.
Yeah. I do think getting on like a challenge run or like on a reward run
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Kalo ends up winning.
That means Cila and Batu are going to be going to travel council
in the evening.
Over at Cila, Rizzo isn't bummed.
They're going to tribal, which is funny.
He has three.
And Dee, he just needs to lock in Camilla.
And then he tells Camilla this lie
that Kyle said, you know,
she was his closest ally in season 48.
And he told him to work with her.
She's not really sure to believe that,
which I think was smart.
Like looking back.
So if, you know, obviously Rizzo and Camilla are watching this back.
Do you think that Camilla is like, you dirty dog.
Like annoyed today that he lied about that then?
Absolutely.
The question is, did he tell her when it was over
and did she already know her?
Is she finding out when she's watching it?
I feel like I've been on both sides of that.
But I felt like he had her initially.
And then I think he oversold it just to hear he repeated it.
Like one or two too many times.
That doesn't surprise me with him.
Yeah.
Like I feel like when he initially just kind of casually mentioned it.
I was like, oh, that's good.
But then he just like, it was too much.
So I think the time when you're lying,
you make it a bigger deal.
Right?
Yeah.
But she's so smart.
Yeah.
That's what I love about her.
I feel like there's the savviness to her.
But I still think I think that the direction she went was smart.
Charlie tries to beat Rizzo to the punch by telling Camilla
about the Billie Eilish idol.
This is when I was like, she's very smart because she was like,
oh, my God.
Like she played it off.
Like she hadn't heard this information before.
But Charlie's too late for her.
Which is interesting because she knows that.
She knows that Rizzo's lying about the Kyle thing.
And then she knows that Charlie's too late in telling.
So it ends up going that she's siding with Rizzo in that.
Do you think that that was the right play to kind of like team up
with Rizzo instead of Charlie at that moment?
It's an interesting thing.
You're pointing out that it's like often in survival.
I feel like it's between two bad choices.
Like two people they don't trust.
You know, I think in my season, I found an idol and I had to give half of it to someone.
And there was no one I wanted to give it to.
Both were going to be a bad choice.
I'm, you know, you're weighing out.
I don't trust this person.
I know why I don't trust this person.
I know why I was glad she voted out Rizzo.
I feel like there's this temptation.
And I think the other tribe may have made this mistake to vote out Angelina,
which just sort of felt like a nothing vote.
That was like an easy vote.
I feel like at this point, every vote you have to be thinking about something more strategic.
And I do feel like Camilla chose something strategically in siding with Rizzo instead of the Charlie Jonathan.
And, you know, and kind of the trajectory that would have sent her on.
Yeah.
You would have done the same.
I think it was a play.
I think it was a big play, you know, that D and Camilla made that swap.
So will it work out for them or will it bite them in the ass, you know, TBD?
I got a feeling that Rizzo played his hand a little too early.
And like, he's next to go after Charlie.
You think that?
Yeah, that's where my money's at.
You're usually good.
Well, speaking of Christians, I agree with you.
I'm amazing.
He's still on my TV screen.
But like, you know, they decide to make the most obvious vote yet, right?
They're finally going to get Angelina out, even though they do a bunch of exposition to like,
it might be Christian.
It might be Aussie or whatever.
I think we all kind of knew it was, it was Angelina.
But we have to talk about this kind of like.
This riff between Christian and Aussie.
You know, Christians, paranoid, he thinks Aussie may be trying to disarm entirely.
He calls Aussie a polypussy pants.
Where did that come from?
But yeah, I mean, it's.
It's pretty great.
So tell us what you think that this.
This relationship between Aussie and Christians is going to end up as because to me,
it seems like it's just going down one road, which is going to putting out your, your flame.
I think Aussie and Christian end up on different alliances at the merge.
I feel like Aussie goes back with Suri and I feel like Christian goes back with Devons.
And I feel like Emily and some of these people end up in the middle.
I feel like they're going to end up on different sides of the coin, obviously.
I thought it was shocking that Christian gave him his shot in the dark.
But I feel like that showed how on the outs Christian felt because he would not have done that if he thought he had the upper hand.
So I think that was his sort of like Hail Mary.
I'd rather give this up and potentially solidify my spot in this tribe.
Then, you know, have a one and six chance at staying tonight.
The last rebel council, you know, Sheila arrives.
Charlie gets voted out.
And I have to say.
I actually appreciated Charlie's response because everyone that's been voted out thus far has been like.
Good game, guys. Good game.
Here's a blanket.
Oh, my God.
Like, you know, go ahead and win, win everything.
And finally, someone was like, I screwed over.
And it's showing that emotion.
I wanted to see that.
I'm really sorry.
I'll be angry.
I feel like we know you're angry.
The exits feel so premeditated where they've like, okay, this is what I'm going to do if I get voted out.
I'm going to do this really classy thing.
I never, I mean, when I got voted out, I was like, fun, real fun, y'all, like a kid.
You know, it's like, I didn't even have time to prepare for it.
It's just like whatever popped out of my mouth.
And I looked back and I'm like, what a dumb thing to say.
But I appreciate at least that you're getting like a raw real reaction from someone who wanted that fun.
Yeah.
And the tease for next week, we see that the tribes are merging.
Do you think that these boomerangs are finally going to start coming into play?
I think so.
They kind of have to, right?
Right.
There's three idols.
There's three people that boomerang to these idols to these people.
Like, it's all going to have to kind of shake up.
And I think at this point, probably everyone knows about almost everyone's idols.
I mean, that information has been shared really, you know, fluidly.
It seems like amongst these tribes.
So I think that's going to have an impact for sure on what happens at the merge.
Last question.
If you could like prognosticate who's one person that you think might make it to the end and who's one person that's going to be going home very soon.
Okay.
I'll go D to the end.
Okay.
I'm going to go Christian going home very soon.
I agree with both of those things.
I agree.
100%.
Kim, thank you so much for coming on my order.
The faithfuls.
You're the best.
Tell us about the HGTV show again and where people can find you on social.
April 13th.
Rock the block on HGTV.
Chelsea and I my like OG Alliance.
We're going to tackle home renovation together.
You can find me.
Kim Sprodlin Wolf on Instagram or just in San Antonio.
If you want to come say hi.
Okay.
Thanks.
Good luck with everything.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Bye.
Thank you.
She's lovely.
I have a lot of respect for people that go on reality shows and are able to pivot and continue working in television in kind of a different.
Have a new and aspect and good for her being able to kind of pivot over to the HGTV thing.
One, those are hard jobs to get to their very cool jobs to get.
And three, you have to actually be very talented to go do those things.
So that's really cool.
I feel like it's part luck.
It's like catching lightning in a bottle to be able to stay on and do it and get your like she got what everybody wants her own show.
Like that's it.
Yeah.
That's like the the winner there.
So I can't wait to see it.
I love what she's doing.
So maybe I could get her to my house.
I'd love that.
Yeah.
Last question for you, Dolores.
You know, as someone who is on TV, but I'm sure like appreciates watching reality TV in terms of characters.
Who's your favorite character on this show?
Right now.
Yeah.
It's between Christian and Rizzo.
Yeah.
I don't want to see either one of them go.
Yeah.
I want to punch coach in the face.
Yeah.
It's so funny.
You said a coach annoys me too.
He just annoys me.
He's a great guy.
But he's got this air about him.
Like, I'm the coach.
You know, I don't understand it.
But, but you know, I love Rizzo, like the puppy.
I, you know, how he is.
I like Rick because he wears a suit and tie.
Hi.
That's ridiculous.
But he's got like a thing.
I think that's, that's cool.
Anyways, this is a lot of fun.
We'll be recapping episode six next week.
If you guys aren't following us on social media, please do app by order of the faithful's DM us any questions, concerns or future guests you'd like us to have.
And we'll see you all again very soon.
Delores.
I love you.
Love you.
See you guys.
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