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If you're doing something because it makes you feel good and you feel like it enhances
0:04
your natural beauty or whatever you want to embody, then do it. If it makes you feel happy.
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But for some of these girls that were messaging me, Sean, it was because they felt pressured.
0:12
Because they felt like they had to be like other girls. And the only reason I feel like I need it
0:17
is because society's telling me, oh, you're almost 30. Of course you need Botox all the girls have.
0:22
Especially in your industry. Exactly. But no, for me, right now that's not the right thing,
0:26
because I would only be doing it because society is telling me to do it.
0:30
Okay, guys got Caitlin Sinclair here. She just spoke this morning about Maha. How was the conversation?
0:41
You said it was packed. Packed to the momentum in this Maha movement is incredible. So
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I the personal health journey. And I'll tell you and your listeners, I've been in this
0:52
MAGA world conservative movement for six, seven years now, worked in media, Trump campaign.
0:59
I just kind of shifted over to the Maha side because of my health story last year when this
1:04
all came into the national stage. And it was actually Charlie that asked me last year,
1:08
can you share your health story at one of our events on stage? And I was like, I don't think anyone's
1:14
going to care. But sure, instead of talking about my journey as a conservative, I'll tell my
1:18
health story. I could I was blown away. I could not believe how many people related came up to me,
1:26
message me afterwards saying, not only did it mean so much to them, but I was sharing something
1:29
so personal, but they related. So that's kind of what we spoke about today, right? Just being
1:36
don't underestimate how powerful your one voice is. And this health movement, it is affected so
1:42
many people to be able to have these conversations that for I was having, like seven years ago,
1:49
talking about what's in our water, natural deodorant, I was called like a crazy,
1:54
like yeah, exactly. People thought I was crazy. And now to have these conversations on a national
1:59
scale, it's so powerful, so full circle for me, but it was not just me, everyone in the room had a
2:05
story. So the speech went amazing. I'm so excited for where this movement's headed.
2:10
Times are changing. I feel like people really value health now. Yeah, it's like, okay, health is
2:15
the new wealth, right? If you have time, you are spending it at the gym.
2:23
Saunas, the sober curiosity movement, all of this is blowing up wellness social clubs
2:31
everywhere. I live in New York and you spending time on the weekends at a bar, for example,
2:37
is like so passe. The new cool thing to do, the new way to show that you're an affluent person
2:43
is actually investing in your health, having the cold plunge, the sauna in your home. So this
2:48
really is the future. And I'll tell you, I was fortunate enough to travel with Charlie
2:53
across his college campuses last year. And the media wants to tell us that young people are lazy,
2:58
they're disenfranchised, they don't care. No, the young people actually care so much about their
3:03
health. And you know, it's been so amazing to witness as a female is the women, the women reclaiming
3:10
agency over their health, asking about hormonal birth control. What the heck am I putting in my
3:15
body? It's just these norms that we've been told questioning our medical institutions. I think
3:22
if COVID taught us anything, it's that having blind trust in our health care system is the actual
3:27
dangerous part that silence is dangerous, asking questions is actually what we should be doing. So
3:33
it's like this beautiful revolution that's not only about health, but it's like the spiritual awakening
3:39
that we're having. I can see that. And the young people on college campuses, they're all about it,
3:43
they're all in, they want answers, they're trying to make healthier decisions, they're trying to
3:48
have families, they're actually asking why is my generation more sick, anxious, more depressed,
3:56
suffering from higher levels of metabolic dysfunction, autoimmune conditions, infertility
4:02
than any of the previous generations, what the heck is going on. So we're finally bringing those
4:07
questions to a national stage. And it's really the younger cohort of voters that cares the most,
4:12
actually. Yeah, the infertility one scares me a lot. It's insane. People in their 20s.
4:17
People in their 20s. So having this conversation with my girlfriend last week, and about how many men
4:22
are having to take things like Viagra? Yeah. In their down point. Yeah, look, what's going on? This
4:30
was not happening a decade ago. Yeah. Like our parents generation was not suffering from these
4:35
insane levels of infertility. And it sounds fringe and cliché to talk about this, but it
4:42
truly is the inflammation, right? And I think for the first time, our generation's finally saying,
4:47
no, we're not just accepting these levels of chronic anxiety, depression, and inflammation as,
4:53
oh, that's just the norm. That's just part of getting older, right? It's not. And I think it's
4:59
amazing how social media has played a role in this make America healthy again space, the wellness
5:05
space in general. I asked earlier in the room, I said, how many of you trust a influencer or wellness
5:12
person that you follow on X or Instagram over a physician that you would go to in your local
5:17
hometown? And almost everybody in the room raised their hand. There is like a plethora of
5:22
information that we are getting from wellness influencers. It is such a tight knit community that
5:28
people, it's people that really care, right? Yeah. These are politicians. It's not a right or left
5:34
issue. It's good people that have most likely been through something their own dark odyssey when
5:39
it comes to health. And they want to just share the information. Yeah. It's an interesting question
5:44
because you'll see videos of Paul Saladino at the grocery store or trying to help you out. You'll
5:47
see him at the gym. So you kind of build this trust with him. Right. He's genuinely trying to help
5:51
you, right? But you don't see your doctor making those same videos or you don't see actually a lot of
5:56
doctors are unhealthy. If you look at the studies there. Yeah. And one of the conversations we've
6:03
been having with the Maha team that I'm a part of is it's not the doctor's fault, right? It's
6:09
it's the system that has taught them backwards. There's no requirements for physicians to take a
6:16
nutrition class. Sean, how do we get there? Yeah. Like you don't you want to go to a doctor that
6:21
doesn't understand what you're putting in your body is actually affecting everything about your
6:25
organs or inflammation, your skin, your anxiety, your infertility. Yeah.
6:30
And look at our food pyramid. How backwards is our food pyramid? Why are we not updating that?
6:35
So there's there's so many questions as to how we can tear back the system. How we can actually
6:44
add firepower under these doctors that want to help. And it's not all of their fault. I come from
6:49
a family of physicians. It's not their fault. This is what they've been taught. The medical schools
6:54
don't provide more than a week about learning the food pyramid, even teaching about
7:00
diet and nutrition and all of that and and getting back to this ancestral way of living,
7:05
which you mentioned Paul earlier, someone like him as a great wellness influencer talks about all
7:11
the time, getting back to Whole Foods and how our ancestors lived, getting out in the sun,
7:16
not injecting to the women, all of this Botox every single month and caring so much about your
7:23
outward appearance and focusing on the wrong things. This movement has ways to go, but
7:30
think about how much headway we've already made just from people posting things online. And now
7:35
having that one disruptor, Secretary Kennedy, that's in office, thanks to Donald Trump, of course,
7:41
that's making some great headways with with the farmers. He just announced seven billion dollars
7:47
going to regenerative farming, which is the future, right? Food supply. What's what's in our food supply?
7:53
Why is all why are why are young people basically allergic to air? Everyone is gluten free,
7:59
nut free, can't even step outside, right? Can have alcohol. People are so curious and we love that,
8:06
but our young people can drink anymore because they're so unhealthy that they can't handle the
8:11
extra level of inflammation. That wasn't happening with our parent generation and our grandparents
8:15
generation. They were like chain smoking, doing whatever they wanted, right? When we were in school,
8:20
maybe one kid had a peanut allergy, exactly. Like peanut butter allergy, whatever. Now people are
8:25
allergic to strawberries, blueberries, like it's crazy. And it's so hard for the young moms.
8:32
And this is what I think this movement is all about, right? I think both sides right now,
8:36
the left and the right are whining. They're like, what are the women? What happened to the women?
8:41
Why didn't they show up to vote? And the answer, in my opinion, my humble opinion, is because you
8:46
did not meet the women where they are right now. The young mothers where they are, which is in the
8:51
kitchen, in the doctor's offices, trying to find healthy lunches for their kids, meet them where
8:57
they are, which is maha. You want the midterms? What maha on the ballot? And the women will deliver
9:03
you midterms. This is what young moms care about. This is what the women care about. We're trying to
9:09
figure out why our skin's breaking out all the time, why our hair is shedding, what's going on with
9:13
our menstrual cycles, why our lives and bodies are consistently unraveling. And I don't think
9:20
enough of, in these general elections, these candidates were focused on that, right? So we have
9:25
this one disruptor in office. And I think there's ways to go. But a lot of these conversations are
9:32
new for people. People are really scared of this movement. It's overwhelming for that person that's
9:38
just getting started, just figuring out, okay, I need to learn how to read labels or let me maybe switch
9:43
out my shampoo or my deodorant to a natural one or organic tampons or maybe let me look at what my
9:50
kids are eating for lunch and their school cafeterias are not necessarily the best and healthy food
9:56
for my kids. So for those new folks that are just, there's this new technology floating around that
10:02
people cannot stop talking about. It's called the light system. Before you roll your eyes, it's not
10:06
some gadget you strap on or supplement that promises the world. Every once in a while, I come across
10:11
something that actually stops me in my tracks and the light system is one of those things. This isn't
10:16
a supplement, it's not a biohack, it's a full-on energy environment built to help your mind and
10:20
body synchronize, recharge and operate at a higher level. It uses light patterns, color frequencies,
10:26
and coherent energy fields, all the stuff that your body naturally responds to to create a
10:30
coherent, energetic field around you. People are saying they feel more clear, more centered,
10:34
more alive in their environment and honestly the science behind it is fascinating. As I've seen
10:39
a lot of wellness tech, but the numbers coming out on this new study of the light system are actually
10:44
insane. Researchers measured human chic cells before and after sitting in front of the system
10:49
and get this. A 30-minute session boosted cellular conductivity by 61%, the study even showed
10:55
increased conductivity in isolated DNA, which is associated with stronger structure and better
11:01
repair pathways. The result, more clarity, more balance and more alignment. You could say $500
11:06
now if you go to the lightsystems.com and use discount code Sean. Getting involved or just starting
11:10
to ask questions, I would say don't get overwhelmed. Just baby steps, baby information, and the good
11:16
news is the information is actually online. We're not being canceled and censored like we were five
11:22
years ago. You can kind of YouTube anything these days and get the information. You can actually
11:28
ask chat GPT, how do I detox from a vaccine and you can actually get that information. Yeah,
11:34
that's cool. I just threw my blood work in there. Give me a lot of advice. Yeah, that's great.
11:39
I mean, obviously still run it by a licensed doctor too, but the going to a physician and the old
11:47
school way that the traditional way that we're used to doing and bringing blood work, they miss
11:53
everything. From someone that lived through this broken medical system, I can tell you, it's so
12:00
disheartening when you are trusting this institution to give you answers and instead you walk away
12:06
with confusion, heartbreak and more suffering. Blood work is one of those things, for example,
12:12
like your thyroid. Yeah. And that's so big for the women. They are not taking into consideration
12:18
the conversion of that D3 and I think it's like T3, T3 and T4. Yeah, so your thyroid T3, T4,
12:25
there's a conversion there. And a traditional medical doctor is just looking at the total thyroid
12:30
number and they're like, check, check. They just look at that little range, right? They're in the range,
12:36
they're in the range, cholesterol is another one of those. Yep. Make butter healthy again, right?
12:41
Bring butter back. I love butter. All of these fats are actually good for us. You need saturated fats,
12:46
you need something like an avocado in your diet. And for so long, my family, for example,
12:51
like our cholesterol is off the charts according to these doctors, they look at me like, oh my god,
12:57
you're going to have a heart attack. And it's like, no, you're just looking at that range,
13:00
you're taking my blood work and you're just looking at a range and checking off a box.
13:04
They pay you to normal range, but American range, unhealthy people. And using something like
13:10
ChasGVT, which I'm not against, or going to a holistic doctor, a naturopathic doctor,
13:16
they're able to go way deeper into that. Okay, let's break this down further. Is your thyroid
13:21
converting properly? And if it's not, okay, what do we need to put you on as a supplement?
13:27
Is your cholesterol levels too high? Or are you just consuming healthy fats that are actually
13:33
helping your metabolism and helping young people with something like metabolic dysfunction?
13:39
So there's a lot of, I guess there's a lot of different ways to read blood work. And I think
13:44
we're finally realizing the traditional style of reading blood work doesn't actually get us the
13:49
information that's helpful. They also don't measure a lot of stuff on like regular blood work.
13:54
You have to like specifically ask your insurance to like, you have to beg your insurance
13:59
companies to like get what you actually want. It's crazy. I, at 18, I was like a freshman or
14:06
sophomore in college and my body just started to unravel. I just started to fall apart.
14:12
From there, I was traveling the entire country to go to these world-renowned institutions
14:18
that we hear about all the time, Cleveland Clinic, Mayo Clinic, specialists after specialists.
14:23
And my story is very similar to a lot of Americans. No answers, medication after medication,
14:29
antibiotic after antibiotic, which we know is destroys your gut lining. And when that didn't work,
14:35
invasive surgeries, which led to two of my organs being permanently removed.
14:40
Oh, yeah. I was a full victim to our broken system, which is why I'm so passionate.
14:46
My God. I was treated like a guinea pig. Not one of these specialists ever stopped to say,
14:52
why is this young woman's body suddenly attacking itself? No one looked at me as a whole person.
14:58
And so it was then we're not only did all of this, of course, change my body.
15:04
And my anatomy, quite frankly, but it changed my view on the medical system, on medicine as a whole,
15:11
on womenhood. Why is women's health so underresearch and underfunded? Why are we pretending that women
15:19
are the same as men? Why am I being treated the same way that you would treat a male? Because
15:24
we're not the same. And I think that's actually part of what this movement has shown over the past
15:30
few months, right? In the past year, across the wellness space, if you follow any of these podcasts,
15:35
this entire national conversation, there's a term that people are using and it's women returning
15:42
to divine femininity. And what does that mean, right? I think it means returning to how our ancestors
15:49
used to live and teaching young females that strength and softness can coexist. And look at the
15:59
girl boss movement that's gone today. So divine femininity, I think, is part of making America healthy
16:07
again. I agree. Divine masculinity, having men return to their roles as a provider, as being that
16:14
strong person, the anchor for the female to lean on, we need to return to these gender roles. I
16:20
think it's really all part of the health and wellness culture and the spiritual awakening that I
16:26
alluded to earlier. And I know that some of this sounds cuckoo to some of those folks that have
16:31
no idea what we're talking about. And they're new to this space. But it's so important. And so now,
16:38
when I share my story, I have hundreds of young people coming up to me like, this is what I'm
16:43
going through. And another part of the conversation is, do you recommend I only treat myself holistically?
16:49
And my answer is no, because for me, I think everyone has a gut feeling, right? You need to sit
16:55
with yourself. You need to tune into those gut feelings. And what we've learned, if anything,
16:59
from COVID, is that there's no one-size-fits-all approach. So holistic medicine works for a lot of
17:06
people. Cancer patients, for example, juicing works really well for them. They need to kill off those
17:13
poisonous cells or lack of a better word and recalibrate their entire system. But for someone with
17:19
Crohn's or ulcerative colitis, having raw vegetables and raw juice might not be the best thing
17:24
for them. So in this space, it's easy to get lost in the information, the plethora of information,
17:30
and then people telling you, do this, because this is what works for me. Doesn't work for everyone.
17:35
You still have to tune into your gut and do your own research. And I'm a recovering vegan.
17:41
I recover. But I don't shame. I don't believe in shaming when it comes to this space either,
17:46
because again, there's not a one-size-fits-all approach when it comes to health. So what works for you
17:51
will not work for your boyfriend or your husband. The cold plunging stuff, the carnivore diet,
17:58
that works really well for the men. It doesn't work that well for the women. So actually,
18:02
when you're trying to make babies or you're ovulating, do not get in that cold plunge,
18:06
do not try to compete with your husband. Same with fasting for women, I heard.
18:10
Yeah, the intermittent fasting. I was doing that for a while. And so what it does is it spikes your
18:15
cortisol for women. And it's really hard, once your body's in that fight or flight mode,
18:20
it's really hard to actually get back down to it. But again, for women, you need to be tracking
18:26
your cycle. There are certain points in your cycle, like when you're menstruating or when you're
18:30
ovulating, that you should not be doing that. But in your follicular phase, for example, you might
18:35
have more energy and you can do that. Or when you're ovulating, you actually feel like you can
18:40
work out harder. And you're craving different food. There's just so much that goes into these
18:46
things. And I think for so long, we pretended that women were men and we are all built the same.
18:52
And talking about our broken medical institution, right, that's how we were treated. That's how I
18:56
was treated. Like just another number and not a whole body. And it's so sad to see some of these
19:03
institutions that we just blindly trust. That's how they treat you. So I think the revolution
19:10
is starting and people are demanding better health and better health care and better answers
19:17
and the truth. And this movement has such incredible people that are so willing and open to
19:21
share the information. So I'm just happy about that. Absolutely. You're getting thousands of
19:26
messages from women. What are the biggest health issues you're seeing from women right now?
19:32
Autoimmune condition autoimmune autoimmune. So autoimmune is really just your body attacking
19:37
itself. Inflammation and Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, lupus. The other main question
19:46
women ask me a lot is what is your take on? I had a few girls message me for Miami last week saying
19:53
I live in Miami. There's a lot of girls down here that are getting BBLs, a lot of plastic surgery,
19:59
a lot of Botox filler. As a young girl, what like what is your advice or do you think that that's
20:06
ever allowed? And I actually have to really think about that because I mean, I really try to eat
20:12
healthy. I'm really into health and fitness and taking care of my body and I have to for my own
20:17
health conditions. But I'm also a girl that wears makeup and I get my nails done. And it's not
20:22
any of none of that is natural stuff. So I think if you're doing something because it makes you
20:29
feel good and you feel like it enhances your natural beauty or however whatever you want to
20:34
embody, right? Then do it. If it makes you feel happy. But for some of these girls that were
20:39
messaging me, Sean, it was because they felt pressured. Because they felt like they had to be
20:45
like other girls. And I think once a week, my boyfriend rolls his eyes because once a week,
20:49
now I ask him, do I need Botox? Should I get Botox? Look at these lines. I'm on TV every day.
20:55
Is this weird? I don't have Botox and I have smile lines and forehead lines. Kind of a lot.
21:00
Look at this. And I realized that when these girls are reaching out to me,
21:05
wait, the fact that I have to keep asking him, should I get Botox? And the only reason I feel
21:10
like I need it is because society's telling me, oh, you're almost 30. Of course, you need Botox.
21:15
All the girls, especially in your industry. Exactly. But no, for me, right now, that's not the
21:21
right thing because I would only be doing it because society is telling me to do it. But,
21:25
you know, I've gotten filler before. I'm not going to lie. It makes me feel good about myself and
21:30
my look. Like I said, I get my nails done. I wear real makeup, not that natural stuff, self-tanner,
21:35
all of that because it makes me feel good. And so that's really my answer. Don't feel pressure
21:39
because of the other women that you're around or whatever industry you're in or because society
21:44
tells you to because Instagram makes you feel like you have to have a filter on it all times.
21:49
Do what's right for you individually. That makes you feel good. I do see that from woman. I think
21:54
a lot of them, especially the younger ones, their values on their, their looks in their opinion,
21:59
right? So they'll like compare themselves to the hottest girl and their stupid girl or whatever.
22:03
It's really hard. And you know what? Obviously, social media has been a, played a large role in that.
22:08
Yeah. And it's crazy to me for these young kids. Like when you and I were younger or maybe in
22:14
high school, we have maybe had Instagram, but it wasn't anything like it is now. Yeah.
22:20
None of this chronically living online for these young kids. I've, someone's had this me recently
22:26
and I was mind blown because I haven't thought about it like that. Not only do they know who like
22:31
the hottest or most good looking person is in their class, they know who the hottest person is
22:37
in their entire city and their entire state. Like the young guys can name you like who the,
22:43
because of social media. That's crazy. And so then you have a number of girls looking
22:49
as whoever this like hot, the hottest girl is and they feel like they have to be exactly like them
22:54
and the ozempic culture right now. The Kardashian filters. It's, it's really tough. It's really tough
23:00
to navigate. And again, I'm not big on shaming. So I don't want to shame, you know, Ariana Grande
23:06
for being extra skinny right now. If that's what works for her and that's maybe her natural body,
23:12
who cares? But it's the online, the living chronically online in a highly curated world makes it
23:19
really, really hard for young girls to say true to themselves. Absolutely. And I think just overall
23:24
we need better role models. We need better role models for these young girls and the young
23:29
men to look up to to say I'm going to run my own race. I'm going to beat to my own drum. And
23:35
just because someone else is doing something and ozempic and Moderna will work for them doesn't
23:40
mean that I'm going to feel pressured to do that to my own body to get the Botox and to adhere to
23:45
that highly curated culture, you know, or pale and it's been a pleasure. I'm from Jersey. So I
23:50
think we get along because of the East Coast. But where could people find you? I know you're
23:54
launching a show next year, right? Yes. So in the new year, it's been a long time coming. It's
23:59
going to be in partnership with Newsweek, my own podcast. And so I love any tips from you. But
24:05
everyone will be able to get it wherever they get their podcasts. And you can follow me right
24:09
now at Caitlinson Claire. Awesome. Check her out guys. See you next time.
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