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This is back to Dave Haysho, brought to you by Campus Toucan.

This podcast, specializing in collegiate football players and their potential for future very far in the future

And he's in the NFL. I'm your host, my name is my coach, Corey P and today

We're going to be talking about the top of the freshman class. That's right the 2026 freshman class a.k.a

26 27 28 the 2029 and the fell draft class

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Putting his car by

Maybe he has no

No way

Also ring on special guests and our boss not co-wurst Austin they self was out of the conversation, but first

Not Corey with the news, but we are going over the competition and I'll tell you what it was a blood bad

You can look it up in the Wikipedia pages. It'll be between like it'll be between like the holocaust and like Russia

It was every single year we're all finally wonder two points this year was like 13 to 2 13 to 3

Yeah, you uh

You're too busy with your other stuff lately. You just uh, you're just going off too much vibes on these calls, I think

I should I should get bonus points for

What I know I'm not okay. Let's

Let's go over let's go over uh photo police can you out to Deek we put it at six foot three he came in at six foot three point one

So point for Corey. Whatever. Yes, go home in

Starb himself for a week straight went from 220 to 220 somehow and then he was just like physically unfit

Do you even do any drills? He just

He did was way in he'd know he did the bench press. Oh, yeah, he'd be adventurous. He's back with the bullies

Yeah

My kai lemon was over 190. I actually didn't bother looking at one of them. So if you can enlighten me

Uh, 193. I think he was anything. He looks lucky. I thought so

Yeah, yeah, I don't know about those interviews and stuff though, but I want to see a little zesty for me

Well, look at look at Caleb Williams. They were teammates. It's true. There you go. Yeah, just call it's just the culture maybe

Uh, Jardinium price 446 Corey gave the over on that I gave the under

I should have pulled up what he ran. What do you run? I'll pull them up really quick right now

All right, Jonah Coleman. We set it at 459. Didn't run. I said the over. I think I should get a point for that. I mean

I think I should get you know, we probably we probably just can't see each other out with Katron and yes

Katron was also on the did not run list

So good for those guys for saving us all some money

You got the combine results pulled up. I do Jerry and price around a 4.49

Very close very close

Mike Washington the talk of the town can't wait to bring him up

454 was what the line we said and he I don't know was the most physically gifted guy in on this

And screen earth all three

I mean credit to big water see for guy for having like a pretty good athletic database on them

And I like honestly I relied on some of that plus I did I did think he was bursty

But 423 I did not think that at all

I honestly thought like

446 for for seven somewhere in that range like late four fours

423 was definitely a surprise I think it was a surprise to everybody though

And it johnson the line was it was 450 flat

I knew he was slow

He gets he gets to them. He gets to his toss speed so fat that for

Yeah, sure, but he he was the only one didn't three cone two

And it was a really really poor time as well

So but yeah, I was actually the slowest running back of the entire group

456 is what he got officially

But I know when he ran it was like four six. So I guess officially they're saying it's four five six

I can't wait for his pro day when he runs like a four four six and then his new rascore drops and all that stuff

Yeah, he just complains about some kind of injury or something. Yeah, it was bugging them at the combine

But I just wanted to compete you know, just yeah, some some yeah

Adam Randall uh core you have the under five six guy that guy

He ended up hitting four five flat

I know to the buyer see your group and Tony Williams. We had a four four seven on him. He ran a four four one

Which I'm I'm probably as we are both the Tony Williams fans. We are both excited about this

We both said the under on this line that we set

Yeah, I think he had that in him personally

I remember that's the last question I asked you because I was listening to our show and I

Last question I gave you is I'll take four four one and you can take anything else over

So we I would have ended pushing if we actually did take that

But I was like the lowest I was willing to go. I was like on a good day. He's gonna run four four one

So I guess it was a good day

Malik. I have feels four five four and he ran a four six one

Which is funny because it's 40 time we had an our database is four six two the exact same thing the exact same thing

Yeah, right to be good. I see every guy there too. Yeah, another point for Corey barian brown

We said a four three five you ran what four four flat is that right four four one or four four flat some like that

Yeah, that is for a guy that's supposed to be fast and special teamer

He needed that speed to like make money. He needed that speed. Yeah

Well, he's got a future as a return guy anyways. I still think you need like the vision for that

But I think that's always what we expected from him

I think we left the door open for like if he tested out of this world

someone was gonna just like take him like ridiculously high

But I think this kind of just settles him in probably and it's like that fourth round range

That's right uh

Dream Bernard. I said under four four nine

Wasn't surprised on that one. I really thought I was gonna be an L for me. So I'm excited about that

four four eight

Casey Exeption did not participate. So probably to have been a point for Corey on the over four four five

Vernon Thompson running a four three three three four three five

four two nine four two six is actually what he ran

But we both said the over on four three so we would have both took a loss there. Oh, yeah, yeah, we did yeah

Alliance rod

Did he not run he didn't run

No, he did drills and stuff, but yeah, coward smart guy smart guy

Good agent good agent good agent

Uh over our Cooper was like a four four two type guy. I'm pretty sure got the under on that

Yeah, I actually surprised me. I would say like him and um, I get we'll talk about him shortly anyways

But he was him and for my film study him and Chris Brazel were both my biggest surprises

I guess because I just didn't think they had that so you know what but in Brazel's case

I really think like those long striders

Sometimes you can't really get it on a football field like playing in like in football conditions

But when you get on a straight line, he could open up those strides like that

Maybe you're gonna get a little more top-end note of it

But still I was pretty surprised to see him hit four three similar to like a dawn. I Mitchell

Like I didn't think a dawn. I Mitchell would hit four three three when he hit it or whatever and okay

It's kind of the same thing. I just don't see that on tape from

Yeah, I should have

Going to Brazel going to Lane those streaming guys four five five that we have four five seven. They're all under

like

Yeah, we weren't even close. We're not even close. But no, I should I should have known Brazel had all this practice running the

Straight line at Tennessee with no like with three releases. I should know

I should know. Yeah, and it's kind of the same thing with Lane two again

Those long strides opening up on a nice long track like that like uh, I was pretty surprised to see him actually hit four four seven on that but yeah, pretty impressive

Branch was surprising to me uh four three sevens our line set wasn't four three five flat

Yeah, four three five he ran over it at first and actually like I came in here and wrote the on the sheet

I gave you the green but I had to come back and then switch it because you actually fixed it after so it's

Good time for him. I thought he was going to be around the range

Tedder's at advertised being athletic. We said at four four eight. We were underestimating him. It was like four four

Did let me get that quick. I don't even know what Ted hurts four four two

Nice

All right, the bonus questions which we didn't get close at all. Who's I read?

Yeah, I was just a non-adder man the whole time with my I don't know a mention of Josh Cameron who

seem invited

He was I don't know if he did be think though

You fixed a ride who didn't do the didn't do the speed drills fastest running back Claymore and I wrote you put down all

Desmond Reed who was he didn't run who shows who shows up at 175 pounds and doesn't run

40 like I thought you don't like I don't understand he got waited and everything and I didn't even see him out there

I don't know if he did drills or whatever, but yeah, he

For him not to run. I don't understand why

Fastest one running YSC repplet bearing in brown which he wasn't and then you put me many bends and did not have a good day

No, what do you run you're on a four three seven? That's one. That's not too bad. I guess. I guess right

I don't know if you're mr. memory. I think he jumped pretty high too if I'm not really

Yeah, oh no, you're wrong. You're right 32 inch for and 10 to broad. Yeah, he did not

Yeah, okay

See if you said he out right tank maybe I would have like yeah considered like he did four three seven is good though

He ran slow on top of it all then he would take

Yeah, all right for the tight ends. I put Eli star as you put connect

Yeah, I almost I almost thought maybe I should have gave that to one to you because I did say you can choose any tight end

You want and I'm going to choose connect because I totally relied on like that 100 meter time you had

But technically if we were taking like the top guy to be like we do sometimes

Could have gave that to you for stowers for want to be nice because you let's do that. Let's do that final score

There you go 13 to 5 there you go

All right, we're upgrading the home bit of pressure to a aparca

I'm gonna keep going though. Let's see what we can do after that. Yeah

Was there any of that we're like the most surprising to you? I already said the brazzle and on

Omar Cooper I get I mean, I guess Mike Washington's probably a big surprise, but did anybody really kind of shock you with their their testing?

I was kind of surprised with Omar Cooper. I think he had that 442 on him

Yeah, that's really it

I feel a little sigh. I feel like I was maybe a little dumb about brazzle lane doing their size and like he is not being

Thing they're gonna be sprinters, but they're like skinny guys. I felt a little silly after the fact

And of course my Washington's easy like Washington's easy to answer. That's the most surprising

Yeah, that's easily the most surprising, but I mean I'm not the rest of the testing, but that time was crazy

It doesn't show up on film for me. We can talk about a different time, but

And a quick reminder the comment results does shouldn't change your opinion about a player

You should always go film. Maybe it maybe it reshuffles like a tear, but like that should that really should be it

It really should not be moving anything

The only reason I care about the combine is to do this competition every year

It's literally about it

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It's just like the most complete picture of this freshman class. So I think you can get

Yeah, we've I mean Matt specifically with everybody here just is so deep into this stuff. It's it's honestly pretty crazy

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Let's start off with the quarterback class. I'm very well prepared for this one

It's the universal QB1 Jared Curtis going to Vanderbilt

I wouldn't say so I think there's some people that have Henderson out there if I'm not sure

But for me personally this Jared Curtis does that follow with you as well. Awesome

Yeah, I did end up finishing with

Curtis as the high guy this year. I don't think you can go wrong with him or Henderson

And in fact if you look at our like our team grades, we literally have 0.001

Separating the two. I think it's you know, it's those two and then everybody else. It's a pretty big gap this year for sure

This is a prototypical guy, you know, he's six three two hundred twenty five pounds

The arm talent like really jumps off the page with him

I mean, I hate to make the comparison because I know that people are kind of down him or whatever

But like it almost did give me like a little bit of like Dillon Ray Olivives at some points

Just the way he was a what he was able to do with his arm and then we have one of what I think the highest

VLo number that we have in our database on here or at least one of the highest six class in the class

Yeah, in the in the class in the class or in the whole database

I think someone might have a 62 or a 63 it might be like Josh Allen or Joe Milton or

Oh man, who is the QB from LSU that was just a total bust

Nusper uh and like

He went to the Raiders

And you say Nusmine

You know, I'm talking about the name just went out of my head. They they they they gave him the film with like 20 bucks

Yeah, the market's Russell. Yeah, it's Russell. I think those are like the highest

So he but he's I mean, he's he's in that company. So

Yeah, I just think it's it's off script

It's I think like in my notes. I have throws one of the most catchable balls in this class

I think and as far as like trajectory anticipation like leading guys placement like it just

He's just a very confident passer and like even into like tight windows and stuff like that like cross-body shots

Like that was one thing

I thought I didn't see him with with as much in some of the other guys a lot of the guys love to play

That backyard ball run around and wait for a guy to get open and they can see I thought with him

He was willing to kind of just test those tighter windows a little bit more often

Then I saw then I saw some of the other guys. So yeah, I came away just

Pretty good. I think it's a pretty floor with him and a lot upside with them too

I will say, you know, the rail list stuff

I can see it. They're like the exact same size

And then obviously realists been as last year down, you know kind of in the south there

So it it and they were both committed to Georgia at one point like there's there's a lot of similarities

If you're scared off by that comparison Curtis is a significantly better runner

I don't have rail as

Rushing stats in high school right off the rip here, but they were like

Might even be negative Curtis ran for like 800 yards a senior year or something like that

I know I ran for 600 as a junior so he is actually like a you know a mobile guy at at really a nice size with that ball

Velo and you know 90 second percentile

Athleticism like 90 something percentile production or something like that. I mean he's he's he checks a lot of boxes

Just you're kind of working them a list. Yeah

Anywhere about the level competition you play compared to going to the SEC off the rip

So you're playing in a tenancy competition. I think it was uh, let's get a little bit of point five

It was negative 1.6 as a junior. So yeah, I get it wasn't good. Um

A little tiny bit a tiny bit

Um, but we're seeing more of these guys now I will say for cubies. I think it matters less level of competition in high school

Uh, I care more about experience. He has a lot of it and um

I think nowadays we used to like, you know, go sit a year maybe even two years

I do think it's better to get playing time as quickly as possible

So I think that that like him going there even with the lower strength of schedule like I are we all assuming that he starts day one

I think I am. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, who else is there that would so

Witt must him and blaze burlots burlots

That's not a real person

I'd be very surprised if this is if this guy chose to go to vandee and like didn't think that he had like every chance to start from day one already

Well, what I'm fascinated about is that like teams like um

Indiana like vandee that are now like they have gray coaches and a great like a front office staff

And if they've got really good play calling and now they're actually finally getting devy talent into the doors

And I'm only wondering like these guys really develop and I'm kind of excited about it

I'm trying like I'm excited about it

So

Because like we would never in the last three years talk about vandee players as like a true like devy asset

I mean, we've talked a lot about vandee over the past couple years because they have what Barton Simmons there

Is that who they have the former 247 guy um and

I think because of his prior gig

He was really used to kind of digging through these diamonds and the rough and kind of picking out some really interesting

Like the data profiles that we would have

Like they they were they were all data darling guys. We're like they're looking at probably kind of similar metrics to us

Obviously, you know, they're not maybe looking at star rating

But you know, they've probably got similar stuff and similar production

You know

calculations and things like that and they've been finding these really interesting profiles

I am interested to see now

Because I think it's easy to take like wider see per 200 and make them wider see per 50 like relatively

But is it easy is you know compared to like taking like wider see per 50 and making them like wider see per 10

That's a bigger. I think it's a it's a different ask of a coaching staff

So I'm interested to see what that transition looks like for specifically Vanderbilt

I think Kurt at Indiana. I'm a little less

concerned about

I mean, it's pretty crazy nowadays in college that we've got the two top guys

With Jared Curtis and Keeshan Henderson who can kind of segue to your two as well going over to Houston

Which is another you know, probably not what you would expect when you're talking about the two top guys in the class of the locations

They decide to choose but

I think it's an interesting guys kind of like the opposite in a sense from

You know, he's the more like you know, he's he's got plenty of arm with I think 57 in our database

As well, but he's kind of got that like off script like like

Creating out a nothing being able to pull away from tackles like he's got those plays on his hotel tape where he's like running

Almost 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage and ending up turning it into a touchdown by the end of it or whatever

So how are you guys feeling about Keeshan Henderson?

I you know, I'm feeling good and I don't I don't I know we wrote

In the guide about he's going to sit behind Connor Wegman who is like a proven asset

No, I don't want to speak that. I don't want I was gonna say maybe you can beat him out

I don't know I'm getting just too much like freshman fever type stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean

We're talking to PJ over here. What's going on?

Yeah

It's like you have these thoughts you speak them out loud and you're like that's not right

No, I I really like to play a lot. I like to a lot. I like Curse a little bit more

But I just do this is just

Supposed to be like Alabama LSU Georgia Penn State organ. So yeah, it's really the size of fun era of football. Yeah, I don't remember if it was the

I don't remember which show I was listening to recently where someone was talking about this

But a lot of the big programs do seem to be outsourcing QB development nowadays to smaller programs

Um, it's not worth eating into their NIL funds to pay a significant amount especially to like you know

If you're if you're Georgia and Jared Curtis wants three million dollars next year and you have you know

25 to spend and you're supposed to be a national title contender like that's

I don't know how much Georgia actually. I'm making these numbers up

But that's a big chunk of it

Whereas going to Vanderbilt, you know, I don't think they have that expectation and if he's really really good

Then I think you know Georgia is willing to spend double that probably

To to bring him in or you know insert other competitive on a yearly basis type school. So

I think it makes sense for these guys to be going to some of these smaller schools quote-unquote and and you know getting a getting early wraps getting experience

They've got you know nowadays three or four years to make some money

Why not do it that way and and kind of see where it can take you from there?

I don't I think the I'm interested to see if it's a trend but I kind of suspect that the

You know five-star going to Ohio State every year

I don't think that route is going to be necessarily viable on a year-to-year basis anymore

No, now you can just cam warded or you can Jane Daniels it and you just go for like your final season or two to somewhere else

Maybe to where more a more blue chip program or there's more eyes on you and

You know get it done that way as long as you're like you know hitting like certain production metrics or whatever early on and

To see the feel like there's there's plenty of avenues for you to either climb higher or even get noticed nowadays at these lower levels as well

I or not I say lower levels, but you know not these blue chip programs that we're more used to talking to well

I talk about the game though. I do like the

The deep ball is

So I don't want to judge my head this way the deep balls are rare to hit me in a felony nowadays

And if all defenses have adjusted their place out to not give up the biggest explosive place

So seeing Keishan Henderson being very refined and the short intermediate

It makes me feel very good about the like the floor of his skill set and how it's gonna progress over the years

I want the deep ball to develop

But when it comes to the NFL, it's like yeah, I just hope he has maybe one deep ball pass

Every other game like like being realistic about about how it goes up there

So I like the refinement of his game. I like the size. He's at six foot three

I'm always a side this guy for quarterback

So when they're like put it both sides of six three six four

That's a pretty big plus for me that life

So I know they can see over the line up that like pray that it had like a second growth spurt

So yeah, I really did like that plus mobility and the pocket presence. So the

I don't mind statues in the pocket, but I understand the mobility is kind of key now

So I I think Keishan's profile is like really really good

You have to bring that up on the day the cry of the Murray gets cut. He's rubbing salt in that wound for him

He's gonna listen to this

future

Future Pittsburgh stealer that would be I don't even know if I want it. I don't even know

Well, but anyways with airs into very interesting like profile another guy who played like kind of low-ish and

It was a like independent school in Texas as well big jump up for him as well

He did play really well against the the two best team teams that he did face in 2025

But also a guy who was a wide receiver as a true freshman like 13

1100 yards and 14 touchdowns as a wide receiver. So like they're still

Possibly even some like development that's untapped there for him

You know to even achieve at this level. Hopefully you'd like to think that way sometimes people like to think you are what you are when you come

But to me just looking at the profile feels like there might be a little bit of like untapped development

They're from and you're even talking about the deep ball like we have that 57 feel on him

But I do think there's times, you know

I don't know if he's putting too much into it because sometimes I feel like when you do get a little bit of a wobbly ball

It's because like maybe your mechanics aren't the cleanest or you're putting too much arm strength or like push the ball too much

Where it's not coming from like the torque of the torque of like your hip spin or your legs that you're engaging like I think

Sometimes that that appears on tape for him like there's there's almost too much arm on the deep ball

But you know a lot of these things I think can still be corrected as he as he kind of goes on

He feels he feels more moldable to me than a guy like then Curtis who I don't really expect like his game to change a whole lot going forward

But I do feel like he's more polished at this point

He's wrong a good way. Yeah, yeah, I agree

The high school by like Corey's leading to it's called a legacy school of sports science

It just sounds it sounds like science, but it doesn't sound like a real school. No

Southampton is to Southampton Institute of Technology

It does kind of sound like that. It does

Um

Dia Bell going to Texas a big drop off in our adjusted grades so

You know Curtis and Keisha were both 8.69 8.68 we lose them being very close

The big drop off here goes all the way on the tier two Dia Bell had lined it at a point seven eight seven

So a big drop going to Texas

He's gonna sit behind archmaning. He's six foot two two twenty. So he's got that

His size is maxed out of my opinion. Let's put some like an extra 10 pounds, but

For the most part, I don't know. He was a nice polished

Is he maxed out? Let me just ask that question. Is he maxed out?

It's a good question

I think

Like physically if he is maxed out

I think he's athletic enough at this stage where it could get him there anyway. So

I do think that there's less upside with him for sure than these other guys like I don't think

You know unless he takes like a huge huge jump over the next

Two years, which I just I don't really see happening from him like he just doesn't quite have

the same

ability to

win or like you know at work outside of structure, especially think he's a guy where if he kind of get him off his

His base like his arm strength does weighing a little bit at times

But like the size is already solid, you know, he played for a big high school program. He won a lead 11

You know, it comes from an athletic family. That was an NBA guy

um

So like I think I think like the the peripheral stuff is all fine with him

He just wasn't very good this year and a little bit. He did play and then he suffered an injury that knocked him out for the rest of the season

Which it doesn't sound like it's a long-term thing like I'm not that worried about the injury itself

It's just I would have liked him to get the full season to play

It kind of seemed like he maybe shut it down a little bit

And yeah, he just wasn't great this year before that happened

So I kind of expected him to come out fire in the show after the summer that he had and it

It disappointed me quite a bit to not really see and maybe maybe if he played a full season

You know, he we would have seen more of a trajectory upward and we just you know were robbed of that

I don't know but it is a little bit worrisome

Yeah, and unlike the other two guys in this he did play like some pretty good high school competition as well

I think he had like a 40 something strength of schedule. I want to say this past year. Yeah, American Heritage

Yeah, so it was pretty up there as well

A 11 finals MVP this past year as well. So at least got to finish on a little bit of a

Of a strong note there, but yeah, I mean this was guy too. He did have some

And not that I have any clarification on what they were

I just read that he did have like sporadic injuries throughout his career as well

Like this little things here and there so I'm not sure if that's part of his profile with it with the injury stuff as well

But yeah, I did find he just the upside a little bit less with him

I liked the arm a little bit

When everything is clean. I find that his arm works really well

It's kind of like with the arm motion, but yeah, I do find him putting like a lot of air underpasses

You don't see as much of like the rifling shots

You know like the stuff I was talking about with Curtis like willing to test those like tight windows and stuff

That was kind of like the one of the negatives that I did right with the Abel as well or like you know

He's always playing like a little bit of backyard ball for him

You know or maybe like taking advantage of a matchable on the outside just a guy that's way faster or whatever

But he's always waiting for the guy to be open I found a lot more with the Abel as well

I liked him, but it was on it's unfortunate when you get to see that progression that maybe we would have saw in that scene your season

That's the consensus. That's it's a consensus top three right across the board across like probably all analysts you think

I think so more or less. I'm looking we have like a team sheet where I can see everybody's grades

I

Actually, it looks like Marcus has

Phase on pretty high, but I like as yeah, they they were pretty clearly like the top three I think for the group

Like yeah, I think here's where it gets a little bit different for everybody and phase on is a guy that I don't have in my top five

But I know Mike does here at number five as well

But I just felt like when I was watching the tape. I just felt you know, it was almost a say way that I felt when I watched like

Jamie French last year or I was just like I just felt like it was so blah. It was good. It was fine

I just didn't find anything like really standard one

He's not overly mobile. I didn't find the like the arm like super popping off the page

I didn't find the throw levels like the this strength of difficulty for the throws

He was making like that high level

I just felt like it was all around good and maybe I dinged him too hard for just being like

All around fine instead of like looking for that elite trait that you kind of want to see like at this level

But he just didn't like overly stand out to me

What are some of the things that you guys kind of like to vote him to have him as high as you didn't?

I'll start off

Oh, he didn't like you like

Ah, I don't hate him, but I don't like it

No, there you go. That's it. That's his profile right there

The forward was good but I did like to see the fever actively moving all the time

And it was almost like always moving within the pocket even when he doesn't have to be

I didn't hate that initial and I thought about it more

I was like at least he's not just standing there and taking it like sugar standards did

So it's like it maybe feel better that he can probably adjust to having a more better pocket sense

But constantly moving and I thought I saw him actually read the field because there's some other player

We might talk about here shortly that I was like he really is just a one recorder back

But I thought I saw a phase on actually reading the field

constantly moving his feet not afraid to ditch the pocket showing some athleticism

It has that pro typical size that I like so I thought there were a lot of tools there that I liked and um

You know, we've had a tendency for not really developing players and just having them learn their scheme

But yeah, I saw the potential I he's good and I saw the potential

That's it and there's not the death chart is not heavy

It's not no, I think that that is the one thing that kind of works in this favor is that if you're just kind of trying to play

I mean look at all the guys we saw start last year and

The value rise that they got out of it like if phase on brand ends up starting like this year and obviously

You know, this is a miss. We're not having them like this high because it'll probably be somewhere in this conversation

With these top five guys if if he manages to put up a decent season or get some playing time or whatever

What you can do in tennis is a system too

I mean your your famous for saying it awesome a monkey could run this system. So I mean

I'm sure Brandon if he gets in there can put up some decent numbers and get quite a bit of hype going into into next year as well

So um, that's the thing with tennis tqb is right

I mean we kind of had the same dilemma with Nico a couple years ago

We as a team didn't really like Nico very much, but we said you know

You kind of got to respect the fact that it's pretty clear that like Tennessee intends for him to be the next guy pretty quickly

And so you know at minimum you're locking in a really good CFF player and then obviously that didn't quite come to fruition

Um, like the the path was you know, we I think the process was correct on that and then it just didn't quite

You know, he wasn't quite as good and maybe with another couple years he would have been

Um, so I think Brandon is a little bit worse

The big thing the big red flag for me. I said is he is a big time drifter backwards in the pocket. Oh, I hate that

Yeah, he moves he moves he moves

That is something that I legitimately if you get to to your freshman year of college you step foot on a college campus and you're doing that

I don't think you can fix it. I think it's too late. I think it's an eight

I think it's in here and I think you're already have had so many reps doing that

That it's like almost impossible to fix that uh, I can't think of anybody that has um, I'm sure maybe there

I've been a you know one or two guys whatever, but like it just really doesn't happen

So to me, I just that was like as soon as I saw him doing that over and over again

I was like oh boy like we've got we've got a problem here

So I think you can run this offense. I don't have a doubt that if he gets this job he could be CFF viable

But in terms of like future draft prospects. I don't I don't love it

I think people are gonna talk about him like they talked about Niko and it's like am am I watching the same person that like everybody else is watching

Like it's kind of the same thing going insane. It was like am I watching the same Julia was these guys got a hose. I'm like

Garden hose like I

Not a great. I mean it's just

People see what they want to see I guess and it's kind of what I feel like phase on Brandon's gonna be

So if you just want to capitalize on the fact that he's gonna play pretty quickly

He's gonna be a Tennessee. You'll probably produce and you can probably

Voice them off on a sucker if you don't if you're not feeling it at some point like there's worse

I've drafted guys for worse reasons than that

So the value play right it is I mean it's the problem is it's not a value play you probably have to take the top

You know pretty pretty early if if you're doing like you know freshman folks

Are gonna you gonna draft them for an early second and then trade him for an early second? Yeah

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Awesome, who would be your number four for devi purposes in the freshman class? I have bow Bentley here

But I I legit think the job hoover. Yeah, I mean possibly I legit think though that after Bell like there's nobody here

That I would be willing to be like you know stamp like I feel pretty good that this guy's gonna get to the NFL like I want to

Here we're saying agree with that. Yeah, so you know

I'd technically have Bentley as a four star. He has some issues with his profile the athleticism score isn't great

He also didn't progress a ton as a senior, but he is extremely also inexperienced. So there's like some

Juggling there with with that

But he's another guy we're like phase on brand new you're like

I mean, I think he can go to Oklahoma and run that offense probably pretty well

So that is kind of the calculus for me personally, but I mean I don't have another guy that I think I would say like

I think that's a really devi relevant guy today

Yeah, he's a relatively small guy too again

You're that's a guy we're constantly gonna keep having the conversation with traits

I mean that's the same thing we've talked about with Hoover throughout you know his career as well is the mental game

Has to be really good to kind of like not be he doesn't have the traits to be forgiving about like the lapses in his play right

What you he took that big step last year and now I'm kind of like oh, I'm kind of getting scared of like what what his actual NFL outcome might be

And that's kind of the same thing with it with with Bentley if he if the rest of his game doesn't pick up the slack for like the lack of traits

That he's gonna have then you're gonna have a hard time, you know

Make into the NFL not outside of maybe like a late D3 pick someone tease you as a good backup a good clip or hold or something like that whatever

Because you're you're very functional, which is what I kind of see for Hoover now too to be honest

You know, I seem to be like a journey man type guy, but yeah, I think that's just kind of where you're at with guys who are who are kind of like that

The one guy that I think is a little bit controversial and allow me to explain at least why this guy's in my top five, okay

It's land in duck worth okay. I understand he did not have a great season this past season

But I kind of I really start to like him looking into the junior tape a little bit actually in some leagues where I have

Leeds recon draft the high school guys. I took him in a few of them last year

Like just just for fun or whatever, but I think this is one of those cases where

You have to project a little bit of development with them because he is like a big-time backyard ballerates

It's see it open throw it

Instead of throwing it open, you know, sometimes it's not that the tightest spiral with him

It's you know the RPO QB run schemes that work really well with him

They're moving the pocket. They're cutting it in half for him

But he has that dynamic kind of like escape ability brushing ability

You know behind line of scrimmits that you can't teach you know that off-script like creation ability at the NFL

I think that they they love nowadays. I think that even on the move like he throws decently well in the move

You know, it's just that everything kind of took a step back as a senior and this was a Caesar to as well where he's the quarterback for Xavier

Is avert Crowell and Xavier Crowell goes off for like 2600 yards like I don't know if I want to try to convince myself

And I can make an excuse like oh, they just you know, they just relied on Crowell to be the dude for like so in for

For this heavy offense like just being a rush heavy offense letting him do his thing

And I know Crowell had a very good season the the season before as well where Duckworth had his good season

But it wasn't as

productive from like an overall yard chair like maybe did that play into it a little bit as well

I don't know I don't want to be they have a receiver who's going to UNC as well key on Chapman so

Yeah, like he had guys to catch the ball too wasn't just

Yeah, it's true. I just I don't know if I just want to make it

I just want to make excuses that it was like a run heavy script

I didn't watch it like on a downtown basis to really know

But like maybe hey crawls going off just let them go off like whatever we don't need Duckworth today like whatever

So whatever you're not going to see this guy either because he's behind sellers

So it's it isn't like a super great situation. I guess that's probably my biggest concern

But you know, I think this could be a guy if it's lateness you to see nobody's targeting him because it's kind of gonna be late

You know, he kind of has that dynamic rushing ability that can lead to like CFF success

And maybe just somewhere down line you can develop into like a dev asset

But at least I see some like traits there where I think he can if he does hit his ceiling

There is there is something there for me to to like and whereas a lot of these other guys. I just don't know if I see it as much with them

I before Austin comes in incorrect suppose with us

I thought I thought there's a lot of simple reads. I thought a lot of rolling out to the left

Rolling out to the right cutting off the field and half so making it really to read

He just stared at us for to read a lot

There was a play on like my initially watched one of his highlight films

It was like a deep ball and that thing was a lot of pop. It was up there so high

The runner had to stop for the ball. So now it's just late

And it's like he had a way to seem open. He's open. The ball's not gonna make it. He had to come back

It's late. I was like, why are you putting that on your highlight tape? Like I would you know just because

That's the good for the receiver not good for you like good for the receiver for the ball. I think I know the player talking about though

But that way he escaped out of the pocket on that play though, didn't he?

I swear I think he might yeah or whatever rolled out or whatever

But but yeah, I mean, I mentioned a lot of that stuff too. I just think it's it's it's

Projection you have to be comfortable with some projection with him

And I mean it's a point nine one starting index guy 21.2 miles per hour. You guys haven't clocked out

He has a 54 below. He has a lot of the things that I think

That can lead to success

It's just is it there yet? I don't know but I think once you get to like quarterback four or five or whatever

This is where I start maybe betting on some traits more than I do just a guy that's a little bit more polished at this point

No, I agree. I think that the tough part with him is and I still like I he's my QB 10 like I it's not like I have this guy

You know down in the the 50s or something

But it's a lot of very imperfect players this year

I thought that he I think it's very difficult to say you can be a see it throw it QB

And then you're not like just gripping and ripping like you went in those scenarios like if you're gonna be a see a throw a guy

You kind of got to just be gunning it in and a lot of the time she's like see a throw it and then you just kind of like as

Like I did in there. It's like nobody like that window is closing

You got to just throw that thing in there um and you know pray um and he there

There's a lot of like just he's late and then he just kind of logs it in

So he's gonna have to I think have more so I'm just wondering if it's like a conviction thing

Like he's like worried to throw like sometimes you someone's just got to get in his ear and be like

It's okay like yeah, let's try this a few times and if it's real ugly then you know

Maybe we'll reconsider trusting what you see a little bit more just in himself a little bit more like I think yeah

Those are all things that make make sense. I wanted to add that I thought his release was pretty slow

I thought he was kind of winding it like like really far back

You know what cuz he's trying to guide it

I think you're trying to guide it like watch that junior tape those watch that junior tape

I think it looks a lot better in junior tape compared to I found I don't know what was going on in senior season

I don't know if I want to make some kind of injury excuse or something

But I thought he looked a lot better in his junior season, but but whatever enough about duckworth

Um before we go too long on quarterbacks here the only other guy that I did want to mention

From a devi aspect you have them on your list uh Mike. I have them on my list as well. I think

Um, I've heard you talk about him before at least Austin as well, but Travis Burgess going over to North Carolina

um

Who you know, they're there could potentially be some early opportunity there

But then you're talking about a guy who tore his knee as a senior. I mean injuries are like the theme of this class

By the way like there's so many guys who like lost like a bunch of their senior seasons to like injury as well

But um it did happen early and you know, there's been some reports

He's been running around or anything, but I still wouldn't bang on anything happening this year, but um

You know, I think he's kind of a fun dual turret guy. I think there's some interesting traits there

Again, another guy got 21.2 miles per hour a 4.67 40. That's pretty good 40 at for a cubic at this stage

high percental

Burson and jilly metrics on him too as well, so um, but he's literally only started for one full season

You know, in the towards ACL like the next season. So they think there's likely a big learning curve there

So there's probably a lot of projection with a guy like this, but I thought he was kind of a fun player when I was watching him

Did he feel like

I don't believe it here

Did he feel like um

Who's the artist all quarterback going to the draft right now?

tailing green

Did he feel like tailing green? Do you a little bit watching him like a little bit?

And they got Bobby Betrino coming in here too. It felt like

I don't think he's that athletic quite good. You could use him in the same way though

I think pro usually use them in the same way though. Yeah, I would say yeah

Um, but he's like a like like

Like it's just really tough to know what he is right now. Yeah, I mean, I have known as my qb7

You know, like I said a lot of imperfect players the data profile is pretty strong

So mystery box guy with that's right. It is. I just I like

When I was in high school guys, it's very obvious who's not moving their head and who is moving their head ever

Like ever at all times like like uh, I just thought dog would never move his head

But like I saw bourge moves head around and

Some good scrambling and stuff like that. He was going to be 11 balls

And it's not necessarily the

situation

Where you would expect him to be like I think that's a good sign for him like if you believe in Travis Burgess

Now we'll see

What he looks like coming up the knee injury this year. I mean, I don't think he's back down to play it all this year

No, I mean, I call I actually talked about that on

campus life this week

I mean Billy Edwards is the other guy there so like maybe he does play, but

Yeah

I wouldn't really bet on it if I didn't have though

I like seasoned thing if anything probably with him

I just put up his 20th or 70th sports third comp is hailing green too

Is who tailing green is it yeah

I actually didn't know he was a state competitor for basketball. I think that's a good

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Played at Georgia powerhouse too for talking about you know big strength and schedule

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All right, you ready to move on to running backs

Sure, all right, going over to the running backs here. I say it. I

It's a year crow well who Cory's talking about a little bit earlier being on the superstar team

All I got to say is I think he's great. I think he covers over snowbox areas, but

I really don't trust in killing the board develop running backs

Haven't seen it yet. There's no room that he does get seems to be like just

I don't say regress, but like they don't they don't certainly take a step forward almost ever when they show up on his front door

My one reason for bringing all this stuff is the board might not be there the whole time

Mm, and I do believe some pillars are just so talented. It doesn't matter

And and the opportunity is clearly there so

So I'm the guy that's a naysayer for the board running backs. He this guy gets to pass 100 percent

I'm gonna believe him crow out

Yeah, I'd say like even comparing it to like past classes

The two top guys here with Xavier Crowell and Seaghan Hader who I assume is obviously the top two for both if they're not

I don't know what you guys are doing, but I'm sure they're the top two for most you guys

But I was more impressed with these guys than any running back

I've been impressed with in maybe like the last three classes or so

I just like I especially like re watching them now kind of like in preparation for the show

Because you know, you know, you briefly checked throughout the season or whatever

You know, we're not there recruiting guys. We like those guys handle that

But when we come to this show, I start to read tap into all these profiles and honestly like just him and and Hader

Both of them like I think they have like incredible traits, incredible vision, incredible instincts

You know when I started watching Crowell I even thought like

You know, I've seen what open holes a lot of running to the outside where I'm like man

This just isn't like hitting right and then it just kept getting better and better and better

And I ended up coming away like really good about him like some crazy crazy burst

Where like his feet will almost come to a complete like dead stop behind the line of scrimmage

And then like you know flash

He is like bursting out on the other side of the pile and you know even for a bigger guy like his ability to use like some of that

Patience in the open field and string together like these multiple cuts and change direction and stuff while maintaining that speed

Very impressive, very creative runner

I didn't necessarily expect going in like when I look when you look at the profile the size and everything like that

You're just expecting a little bit different with this kind of archetype as well

But no, I came away very impressed. I mean

0.95 star index we have on this guy 22.4 miles per hour 4.48 40 10.7 300 meter

This guy was just talking about went off for 2600 yards as a senior

35 touchdowns to go a lot the year before that 1931 touchdowns this guy's been super productive. It's just like

The ultimate kind of like profile for running back that you're looking for maybe on the receiving side of you'd like to see a little bit more

That's probably the one thing you can probably push point to with him

But other than that, it's like the ideal check placed for a running back

I think the fun thing with him because he's a young guy. He reclassified up

So I think we should be going into his senior year of high school next year

I wrote like my biggest

My really only negative that I wrote down for him is that I think he plays with a little bit of immaturity at times

You know, which you know kind of sometimes bounce and runs and maybe he shouldn't you know just

It almost feels to me like he's just kind of like effing around the times like he's still kind of and I don't mean like because he's like you know lazy or you know

I think he's just kind of still figuring out what he can and can't do

Yeah, okay, like he's still kind of got that youthful like yeah effort like I'll try this doesn't work

I won't do that again and he's athletic enough where a lot of the time

It will probably work it has worked for him anyway, and honestly

I might you might still be able to do it in college too like it's it's really fun kind of watching him as like a

He you can very clearly tell like he's still kind of figuring out the position a little bit

But like if we're him to be this good and still figuring it out like it's a good way. It's not like

Nicholas singleton at a high school. We were like

He's playing this really weird offensive system where they just put him in space, and he just goes like you do what does that look like

Which I is not revisionist we said that at the time, and we obviously we still graded him pretty high

But like cruel to me just feels like

The the world is his oyster so to speak on the football field. He can just kind of do whatever he wants

Yeah, you can kind of see that development to like his season two or it's like he knows he can just like you know what if it's like two

Lunch up in the middle here. I'm just gonna go to the outside and I could outrun everybody

You know or it's like if he sees that hole then I'm gonna do it or I can come to complete that stop let these blocks set up

And I know I'm gonna burst right through these guys and like break the angles of these two incoming defenders

like it's just like it is it's it's a very impressive mold for running back with with growl and I definitely came away like

You know, I think I was arguing with you guys that he shouldn't be considered like a top three running back right now and defy

And I think I'm changing my tune a little bit on that I think I'm

Number one. Yeah, I don't think that's crazy. I don't think I because I like him more than I like Bo Jackson last year

And yeah, Bo Jackson was more productive last year

And there's a good reason for him to be like kind of near the top right now, but I don't think that's crazy

I mean, I there's always a little bit of risk with freshman running back so that I kind of like work into the mix

You know, maybe it just doesn't work out like we hope it's gonna work out and kind of take the sure thing a little bit with Bo Jackson

So I think ranking right now. I'm still gonna put Bo Jackson first, but you know red at number two

I think he's definitely in the conversation for me

As if I thought if I if I thought more highly of any like I just don't have a running back that I think has like a lead profile and call it now

So to me, I'm like like just screw it like running back is such a flat tiered position like any Bozo can can do a thousand yards in the NFL with like the right amount of

Opportunities, so like I'll just take the guy that like has the I mean he is probably the best high school running back since

Beach on Robinson I would say I did want to ask you

You know you you're talking with a lot of your recruiting team and stuff like that a lot of these guys on this list

They don't have very extensive receiving profiles. What do you consider like a nice threshold for a receiving profile for you

We're like I you're I'm not expecting this guy to be split out wide, but I know it's not something that's gonna be like a problem for him

It it's really hard to give like a good answer like I've solid across the board answer because some high schools

Like to them

There's no sense in dumping it to a running back because there's just the inherent risk of something can happen to that ball

While it's in the air and it's just an extension of the run game like at that point like we'll just hand it off

So I think you get that a lot where a lot of teams don't and I know his QV was duck worth so like you know

Maybe they didn't quite have that problem, but to me. I thought he looked comp like more than competent doing it

But I will say is I take nothing away from camp reps

Yeah, miss me with receiving work camp reps for running backs. I do not care. I'll be Gordon. I literally will never factor it in

Do not send me clips and he's got those like you can catch. I'm like dude. It's on air like I don't care

So so I don't care about that, but I thought he looked fine

But I mean ideally I'd like to see guy if they could hit a season with like 15 catches like that would be sick

But yeah, you know, you're not always gonna be able to get that and it doesn't always necessarily

Matter yeah, I always feared like you know, I was always I was thinking for that 20, but I'm like I might

Am I going too high there and like for four just example purposes here

Crwell does have 25 catches on his career for five hundred yards and six touchdown. So it is well talking career

Yeah, no, that's no, no, I was just saying career

I've just to show the difference in like a season. I want to see 20 and then just for an example

He has 25 first whole career

So I mean just to show you how low of like a low and profile

He kind of has an in receiving category, but but yeah, I mean

You know, I would trust more what you say if you if you think you look say a competent pass catcher

But it's it is a part of his profile that isn't there on on the the data side if you are looking at that way

I get a little bit nervous when evaluating running backs. This is for

NFL whatever any anytime

When they're like paired with a nice dual threat quarterback because it just makes the boxes a bit lighter linebacker

To like watch both positions. It's a very easy. I think it's easier for defense to be manipulated when you have

The quarterback that can run and they won't run anybody can run

Yeah, when it's like that

Um, I got I got done that for that. Well, you guys kind of covered it all

Um, moving over to savvy on hitters everyone's RV to I wanted to ask awesome

What he thought would be the split between him and Jordan Marshall

I would be pretty confident saying that it would almost be the exact split with Marshall

Haynes last year if they'd kept the same staff the new staff

I just don't really have a great projection projection for it

But I would anticipate that hitter gets at least 20 to 30% of the carries out of the backfield next year if I had to guess

And maybe like I just don't know if they're gonna prefer to go like with more one guy

I don't really know what their approach is gonna be

Okay, yeah, I think that's fair

It's hard to say what exactly is gonna happen there always you're gonna come in probably with Marshall as your top guy

But if hitter is just as good as we think he is he could just continue to work into that

Because I'm not like a huge fan of Marshall. I don't think he's like anything special as a runner

I know he put up like some pretty good stats last year

I just don't see it from like a dynamism point of view with him. You know, I know open field as runner

But savvy on hitter, you know

What he lacks in comparison to like maybe the athletic upside of crow well

He kind of makes up for with like, you know, you were kind of alluding to his

Crow else the kind of figuring out how his plan of attack what he wants to do like hitter is a very confident runner

When he's attacking like the middle of the field like you kind of like gallops through these cuts

And like doesn't lose a lot of speed while he's doing it

You know, I kind of love the footwork and that confidence to attack the middle of the field. I still think you know

At the NFL level you're living more so everyone

Everybody loves the big runs every loves that you're living in between the tackles and you're living in that five to six to seven yard range

Like from from most of your career and someone who's very confident in doing that like really like resonates with me

Especially if they have like the other parts of the game as well

But he was definitely one of those ones where you know, probably you know over the last few few recruiting classes

I feel like was one of the more comfortable runners. I saw attacking the middle between between the tackles

Very decisive. Yeah very decisive

I feel like I fall for Virginia my best kind of a lot

A lot is in trivia. Who is in trivia from Virginia

Anderson is he

I think I'm like uh

The Tennessee eye that Cameron that came came so

Can't seldom yeah, but he played like literally the worst competition country

Yeah

Yeah, all right, uh anyway, um, yeah, Travian hope well virginia

I don't really have it. I think there's number three for this class. Javian always wants kind of my default guy from Notre Dame

um

Notre Dame is super reliable and developing running backs. They all seem to get the net fell draft. They all like some of

Makes results, but some of them are very successful like high on Williams. Other ones are not like all your destiny

Do you have is number three for you Javian all of her as well? Austin? Oh, I was born as my three. Yeah, I mean

She's the lead by three

He's my only like high four star running back in the class. Yeah

Mm

My three um, you know, we can talk about the Nordan guys and kind of

Talk about them both. I guess we get when we consider that because they are at the end of my list here

But I do feel pretty good about um

Dishon Rodo and for some different reasons, you know, I think

I see Marvipath for a player like him in today's NFL where a guy is you know, he's 5-11-202

Really good strength of schedule with him very productive as well like 1400 rushing yards

You know 160 receiving are not that much 16 total touchdowns, but I thought he was just a very fun player

You know especially in space like making guys miss elusive

You know, has some nice reps where he's like dissecting traffic

Does have a slight tendency to kind of work outside, but you know a decent level of patience with him

A 96 star index with that we have one in 22 miles per hour 10.400 meter 21.3

You know, I wonder if it's the deer hill junior thing kind of like

Resonating with me a little bit, but I do see some of that with him

Where I could see him operating in that and then you can kind of see where he goes with his career outside of that

Like I do think he's more of like a in-space player to the outside or whatever right now

But can he develop a little bit further down the line?

I think even with Oregon we saw this year when when

Jade Jordan Davison went down on the playoffs. They didn't really play deer hill

It's like in every down guy. I think they kind of just picture him that way

Can he break out of that mold? Can a guy like to Sean or Doe break out of that mold to

I don't even know if that's how you say his last name is I say his last name Austin is this for Doe?

I think so. I'm hoping I made some great fancy classes to say you have with your pinky out and yeah

So that's all that's all I'm picturing. I you say it anyways, but that's kind of the role I can picture for him

And instead of going with a guy like you know

Like a John like a Jamie Osborne or a Jonas Walton

We're like I feel like they're very good players and but maybe nothing like really stands out of both their game

And I kind of worry about who's going to be the guy to get developed who's going to be the guy that they start to rely on like

I kind of just see a path for a Dishonored dough and the same way we saw with Wachon Parker and the same way we saw with like deer hill

I think that this guy kind of fits that mold to me

And I know USC is a little bit muddled

So we're going to have to see if he can kind of get any opportunities this year or or whatever down the line as well

But at least just from a player standpoint those are kind of like the vibes I got from him

I want to add to the gear right like

Gear right. Excuse me Lincoln Riley

But USC's like

They've been producing efficient running backs now for like multiple years straight

All these guys look extremely bursty. They find a really good way to get them into space

It's it's not like a system that we equate to running backs

But I feel like the public's got to equate the system running backs now the USC's had

Really efficient bursty running backs consistently now. So I like Dishonored dough to he's

I keep flipping my head between him and JVN all is one or like three four

But like it's yeah, I think like that's my solidify three four though by these two players

Yeah, and I've got them to five like right there with those guys. So

Yeah, I think I think it's a pretty

I don't know for me. It was a pretty clear top five this year

And who's the last one?

Walt and then on Osborne were the other. Yeah, the two nice game guys. Yeah

Which makes a lot of sense, but like did you feel

What was like your biggest pull with with JVN Osborne or even join as Walton?

I'd say even your profiles and your guys's guide, which I mean I won't spoil you guys can go into it

They read very similarly, you know, I mean like it's it doesn't feel like

Even you even add from me from I think it was Matt was the guy who ended up avoiding him

That really saw a defining trait for either of them

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I mean, I will just say like in terms of the grade that I gave Osborne for instance

He would have been like my rb 6 in 2023 my rb 5 in 2024

Last year's class was bad. He would have been I think my rb 2 right after

Bo

But it's not like a stellar grade that I have on him

I wrote before he even committed Notre Dame. I said like he kind of reminds me a little bit of Darian price in terms of like how he moves

How he plays stylistically

Like size profile wise they don't they don't seem that dissimilar to me like build perspective and tough for under two very like

They're actually they're not afraid to kind of like like get low a little bit. Yeah good data profile

I mean all the five guys that I have at the top like actually it's funny the worst data profile is probably hitter

And it's not it's a it's a very strong data profile like these top five guys are all like

70 if 80 if 90th percentile and everything

Yeah, which is just great to see. I mean, I think the thing with the Notre Dame guys you just worried about is like

You know, what does that backfield look like but I just don't think highly of anybody that's there right now

Like even in ES Williams, I think it's kind of the guy by default

I know but I think they had a dude there. I don't think he would be their guy

I think he's fine, but he's a he's a solid college running back

Yeah, there's still kind of there's still kind of a lot to figure out there

And then like you you alluded to it with hitter as well

But I just wanted to say that he did his daily profile did take a hit from when he transferred

He transferred as sophomore to to like a higher level of competition and that team was just pure garbage

Like I think they got like five wins that year something and like he his stats look like a huge hit

Which I think is like a big thing that probably hurts his profile overall from like a data one of you

And it wasn't bad. It was like a thousand yards and 11 touchdowns

But like you know the yards per clip where we're considerably down from like he's he's well above 10 not every other year

And that year he was like seven or something like that

So I think that's one of the big data. It's with him as well

But yeah, those two guys come in after me, you know

And then just speaking to some of the other like higher ranked guys. I'm not a Derek Cooper guy

I think I've heard some of you guys say that as well, but very stiff like straight line linear runner

You know, he kind of has like some size speed to him

This is a profile that some that reminds me of like LJ Johnson

This is Derek Cooper going to Texas by the way six one two oh five like he's got some

I know

No, you think Cooper. Oh you said like Mark Fletcher. Would you say?

Yeah, straight line hammer straight line

Maybe a maybe a little bit more juice there though

But you know what reminded me of from like you know, we never really saw anything from this guy either but LJ Johnson

Never back in I can't remember if that was like yeah

Or ever more of like a straight line guy had some nice like like like testing metrics to him

But didn't really like do anything crazy on the field. So it's very one note like straightforward like power hammers

They love to initiate contact you will pull through tackles

You know, you could probably benefit. I think actually from adding like 10 or 15 pounds and just like committing to that being his style

But yeah, just not really a guy that like really jump out the page for me

I didn't watch me yet. I didn't watch me

No, I don't think you should be worried about it

Yeah, and then um a small guy that kind of caught my attention

The West KJ KJ Edwards a little bit. I even dove like deep into the profile to see all the

You know background narrative stories with him and stuff like that

But he did kind of pop a little bit

I'm trying to just keep my eyes open to some of these smaller guys a little bit

And I kind of toyed around with him being like a top five guy or not. I just don't I don't really know what to do

I know you wrote up his profile Austin. Do you feel like he was somebody you could see

Kind of progressing for for the enough to be considered a dev asset

Maybe yeah, I mean I as I was writing his profile

I kind of was like should I have had him a little you know great a little bit higher

But I think I had him in the right range. She's my RB9. He's like a you know

High middish high three star guy in our ranking system, which is you know pretty solid

I just I know that we're skewing a little smaller at running back nowadays. I just am real hesitant

to

Fall in love with those guys. Yeah, you know

I don't really want to be like aggressively

acquiring them and he's a guy that I think like I he just doesn't have a lot of frame either way and like he's not

Like if you're gonna be that small you got to be like an elite athlete

I don't think he's in a lead athlete at least like in terms of like a well-rounded

Perspective like he's fast obviously, but like I need you to be like you know just

Nuts as an athlete. He's like 60th percentile, which is again, that's a good dad's a good athleticism profile

It's all it's all his speed, but I would just prefer it to be better

Yeah, there's so there's potential early playing time there as well with him

You know another guy like a mario latimer. I know you guys are big on in your

In the guide as well big big hulk 233 pound 5 11 guy

But some also some potential early playing time there at West Virginia with camcook

You know, he's kind of a guy that I've got pegged a little Marcus belly you tall was a guy that I kind of just intrigued me

Just a little bit

You know wish on parker they like they kind of run like they to the two back system

Like I think the other guy is gone if I'm not mistaken who I can't remember his name now

But the other the senior guy they're running out there with parker last year. Yeah

They only have one other guy with like really any experience at all in the team now

I forget I don't know who it is, but so yeah, so they're not good. Yeah, which like 3.8 yards per carry or something

Yeah, there you go. So I think there's a decent opening there for him

You know 1600 rushing yards 25 touchdowns as a senior last year. So

You know, the BMI is not the greatest another guy's 5 11 190

So I'm going to be interested to see what kind of a cheek checks in at as well

But you know, just some guys at least have on my list that I'm kind of just like watching for some early potential playing time

Austin you said you'll slow five top five the one-ass there is

Just doubling down. Do you have a number six that might be pushing in or a guy they might be considering

Could I just interest you in a sir Paul cheeks

More big big sir Paul cheeks guy. I actually do like cheeks. Oh

Oh, don't clip that don't clip that don't you clip that

How's it wiggle? We got sir Paul cheeks and booby feaster in the same class, and I feel like it just said

I don't know what's happened to the game. I don't exchange

I don't know it's all the book. Yeah

Yeah, I pay big money for a cheeks

booby feaster

Jersey swap. I mean, I think I think there are like it's not booty jersey behind you right now. Yeah, it's a theme

Why not?

There are a lot of really cool like really awesome production profiles this year

But then a lot of those guys like are lacking some of the other stuff

um

So I mean, I if I had to like circle some of the guys that I think could break out

It would be like some of the guys that have awesome production profiles like Latimer like Lamarcus Bell

Like he Tompkins who's going to Louisville has like a 99th percentile production score

Ryan Estrada going to Minnesota 99th percentile production

There you know there there's a bunch of guys like a card a Mac going to Arizona states a guy

He's got a 93rd percentile and he's already on campus and they seem to love him

Like that's probably the pool player that I would be dipping my toes into more than

The athletic guy that maybe doesn't have the great production high school

Yeah, I read I read um

I read a book card a Mac and like how much they were loving him over there

And then I went to go kind of like look at his profile and I was like oh guy play quarterback the athletic profile is not good

I'm like no, I don't want to do this

I'm like this feels like um

Who's that guy who didn't uh work out like a like a dollar store version of um

Who's a guy went to Florida state it didn't I know we're gonna we're breaking out

Welcome to Davis to Cam Davis. Thank you. Yes, like I'm like a less at liberty now

He's a liberty that's right

Like a less athletic version of like I'm like dollar store discount Cam Davis pro vibes

I don't know where I was like I'm not going to do this

I am generally very skeptical of the high school

QB turned uh running back like he's just totally different like footwork and vision and all that is just totally different

So like I have mac as my Ruby 24

But it's such a bad class again like these are the profiles and maybe I'm just like circling like you know

I'll snag him late. Yeah, we'll bet on that as opposed to like you know

just

The other guys that that are going somewhere that just

you know

Christian Rose going to SMU or something who's kind of a little bit of like a looks like tarzan plays like Jane kind of guy

I mean, there's a lot of guys like that up at the top hat and going to Oklahoma. It's not great. Yeah

I hope no one ever describes me like that

I talk I use that phrase to describe you all the time behind

I hope the police are like athletic build over. I'd like that's me

In fact, we've seen fleeing on foot, but not that fast. Yeah, if you think you would go faster with how he looks

He's got a one seven split four six guy

All right, that's it over to why receivers here. It's another two point of trade race at the top of Tristan

Keys and Chris Henry and which way did you fall awesome on which one's a number one which was number two

I had to go with keys in good conscience just because Henry had the big injury as a junior and then he was

They they asked him to totally change how they used him as a senior like on on his sophomore and like the little bit of junior stuff before he went down

It was all like

You're gonna run like a 15-yard out and like the hip flexibility and stuff that this guy had at 66 to whatever

I was like Jesus like I've not seen a big wide receiver move like this in a really long time

And then senior year I don't know that he's quite right yet

And so they basically didn't ask him to do that at all

It was like just wind deep and he's just so freaking fast and like got the hit when he opens up his gate

That he just can go that he was really productive doing that

But I don't know that that's something that would work for him long-term and or even if it does make him like that valuable

Um moving forward

I think that would cap his his upside pretty significantly

So it's still out of five star grade on Henry

Fingers crossed he gets back to a hundred percent health

But I think you have to go with keys who runs like a full routry already and is awesome doing it

um

You know the only worry with him is going to Tennessee

But I have less of a worry about it because he's already shown that he can run a full routry

Like I you know

Unless he just forgets every the next couple of years because they they won't ask him to

And I think he's going to be really good at what they ask him to run at run as well

Because I mean you're you this guy, you know like I even my notes like a verticals of savant like

Which I think will work really well with what they kind of ask like their outside guys to do

Which I assume they're probably going to put keys on the outside anyways, but you know

I think you'll step into Brazzles rule

I think yeah, I think I just slot him right in there and let it go

Like good concentration ball tracking skills

Winning at the catch point the body control and contortion, you know, like he does show like a little bit of stem work

A little bit of release work, but it is it is kind of very minimal at this point

Which is fine. I think you know like I I think you've just seen the effort to do it right now

It was big at this point because a lot of guys don't even really know how what they're doing

How to attack at the rate excessive which is you know

Someday I did sometimes I did see that with Chris Henry, but I did just watch the

Most of the senior most of the senior stuff with Henry

So the fact that you're saying I may I got to go back and look at some of the freshmen stuff with him

But yeah, keys very had some nice suddenness on his cuts and breaks

You know, I don't think he's he's a big burner, you know, he kind of like he plays with like it like a tempo

You know, I'm like hello a guy to to sleep like in the beginning of his rope before he like kind of snaps off

You know like and you know exploding out of his break and I just think it fits very well to a vertical row tree

To what like they're like similar to the way Clemson uses Brian Westgo

Like I think that could kind of be like the same way you can kind of use Tristan keys as well, but with Chris Henry

Does the three different high schools in the same way we kind of talk about like quarterbacks like switching all the time

Kind of being right if like does that worry you at all with the profile that he kept he was like three high schools because wasn't he yet

His current school for three years wasn't he at matter day for three years. I have broke out

No, played both sides of the ball as a freshman at West clear mont broke out as a wide receiver after transferring to withdraw

And then transfer to matter day as a junior but busted isn't after two games and then

Senior season is the only season you had so yeah, that was when he kind of jump up to whatever and I kind of look at this

I'm like I can feels like these profile that we kind of like throw like a red flag on or whatever sometimes, but

I have a dad man, okay

His dad fell out of a moving pickup truck and

Isn't that what happened to Chris Henry was he? Yeah, yeah, I think he fell out of the truck for this girlfriend or something

Yeah, some sort of argument or something. Yeah

But I do I'm not gonna lie with you guys. I do worry about Chris Henry overall

I think I'm banking a lot on some other evaluations here people I trust and stuff like that

I just don't think the senior tape really

Overly stood out to me that much athletic profile on him isn't that great 54.7 star index

I mean for a bigger guy you don't yeah for a bigger over the year

It was like 75th percentile or something and then like every month. I checked I was like, oh that went a little bit lower

And for a bigger guy you know it's about this is a six we have him at six and a half point five or six five point five

So which means you know you do almost six or six guys

We just don't even really see that at the NFL level

So that kind of worries me a little bit as well. So I don't know

I'm a little bit more sceptical about his profile in general

I think sometimes he has excessive movement for a guy who probably shouldn't be trying to do as much footwork stuff

As he does at the line of scrimmage like it's not going to work as well for him at the next level

So I'm interested to see how this is going to go

But again when you're talking about catch point we try out body control

You're talking about like a cam comb and type pro prospect at the point of the catch

I just don't know if I'm seeing it as much through the stem and what he does is line of scrimmage and stuff like that

So I'm banking on some other guys evaluation here

But um a little bit riskier with with Chris Henry like he would be you know you got you guys talk about that top six

He would be like my last of the top six he would be my last of the top six as well. Yeah, okay

Projects near typecasting

It's a ceiling what like Evans. There's only like that's only like guy that that size as a successful NFL

I wrote

I mean we're about at the point in Evans career where Evans came in and Vincent Jackson faded to obscurity

So, you know, if you got a heavy guy at any given time in the NFL, then it's kind of like he's the chosen one

Yeah, yeah, son out guy, you know guy Ebert over here, but

Okay, I had to ask that I had to ask that I you know, I had

Keys behind Henry just based off of school selection

You guys got me questioning that now. I don't like maybe I definitely have keys in front

I think where I fall in that is you know in this day and age where you can transfer at any point at any time

Just give me those early production thresholds early purchase and keys and then we'll just see where else that goes

That's all I'm worried about at this point just get in

Hit those early production thresholds, and then we'll see what happens after that

But right now I'm gonna value him as a player and there's every opportunity to go somewhere else after if you really think that

This is gonna hamper his his ability to go to the next level which you know

I personally think every case is special. I don't like to helmet scout and whatever like I think every case is kind of its own case

Tennessee has a really bad track record. I get I get that they don't ask their writers who just do a lot

But just for now. I'm just gonna analyze him as a prospect. He is not worrying about like the helmet or the place that it's going to

He's my third highest rated player or water see wherever

Oh, there you go. Oh

Is that higher than the core and more from last year?

He if more is fourth. He's there's four. Mm-hmm. Nice.

McCye lemon fifth. Woo lemon gang

Lemon on a game with the Vika, you know

Number three

It's got to be jailing a lot right more

That's what I have there. I am jailing lot slash

Cedarian Morgan and I know that you guys don't like the d tall guys as much. It's a it's a

archetype that I probably shouldn't be falling for as much as I do

um, but yeah, that's kind of like my

3a3b would be lot in Cedarian Morgan for me right now

And I know there's there's other guys that were kind of intriguing

But I just I'm kind of intrigued with with Cedarian Morgan

But just speaking about jail and lot. I do think he's he's pre-impressive

I always fall for these guys with the track background of the jumps of jumping other

Like crazy jump scores

Which is what he is a 73%ile burst score a 3%ile speed score

55 star index, but it's being brought down by like some bad power metrics

Which is not going to be a big part of his game anyways, but yeah, 21.4 miles per hour 10.800 meter

80th percentile and or higher in high jump vertical and long jump

So just this really bursy kid like and twitchy and and explosive

But like I do think there's a lack of refinement with him there like very simple row tree mainly, you know, verticals

Screens but he makes up for it

I think with like this versatility lying up at different spots all over the field

As a rusher pop passes scheme touches from the slot and from a majority outside

But and they played a ton of defensive back at two

It's really showing off like his instincts like an awareness like on the football field

I think so I think he proved that he can win at all three levels of the field

There's isn't much there from like a deception standpoint for me or like or or stem work or something

But another guy I think you know, you see the foundation of skills with him translating to hopefully, you know

More find me down the road the one thing the profile that scared me a little bit

That's like eerily sort of similar you remember DJ Alan that a lot of us were high on for like a

Kind of like eerily similar for for a lot of those things

And that's kind of like the downside of a profile like this where you're seeing somebody, you know multi

Malt usage

But maybe not overly refined enough in any one area that you hope

That that that will kind of be like their calling car the next level and maybe they never refine it to be like it'll be at that one thing

But I'm not saying that's what's going to happen here

I'm just saying that's kind of like the downside of a profile like this where you're kind of good at everything not not leading anything

I am worried about the lack of like route running refinement. It just seems like he's winning because he's

This is very safer most most high schoolers. It looks like he knows he's like more athletic than his competition and that's what he's relying on

So I rather him give more effort within than in his routes than he is

He's my water see for three, but I'm just a contextualized. He would have been my water see for 10 in 2024

He would have been my water see for seven in 2023

I sure he would have been my water see for

Who just because we talked about it like last year was decorium more and then like nothing

So but in a similar range that I had like

tail and tailor

lock it

like it's kind of a

Iffy range

You're kind of like putting them there because you know the the attributes can maybe get them there

But you don't feel that great about it today

So I was a little worried he might play db because he moves like a db

He does yeah, and he has good instincts as a defensive back as well

Which is he he's got like his hips are just like nuts like in terms of how he can change direction

So yeah, he's just like a complete package as an athlete

So I kind of like worries you where he's gonna end up playing or or whatever or like where he's going to end up being refined that

But yeah, I see why people are so enamored with him

Organ another school that doesn't really develop wire sewers just want to put be fair that trash Tennessee actually be fair

That awarding you know

And you know not really a school we see you get a lot of freshmen playing time either except you know last year with the opportunity

We did see more and there is some more opportunity again this year as well

Which you kind of hope leads to you know, at least some easy touches for a lot to kind of at least hit those those early thresholds

You want to see it's Evan sewer coming back and then

Iverson hoax. Who's that is that the UABA? Yeah, they bring in books

They have McClellan who worked in a decent amount by the end of the year

Like I don't know that he's particularly good, but I think he'll start for them

I think it'll be steward more and McClellan to start the year if I had to guess it plus technically gatlin bears back from wherever he was so

Yes, not a little bear whatever, but yeah

Um

A guy I was debating with from my number three was named burrows. I actually was a pretty big booby fuser guy rewatch that I actually

We'll talk about them later, but I

Was a bit raw

Yes, but another like reclass guy, so yeah, yeah

I like the athleticism I saw from like burrows. I don't know like what it was, but I feel like I saw a lot of classes are like

Malcolm Simmons we off still a big fan up to this day

Gonna ride and die with this like I go, but

As TJ Moore and Bryant West go with the two starting players the real question who's gonna run the slot for Clemson

Who does have really good

Quarterback and not quarterback why receiver evaluation program and fit there

I just feel like burrows have a serious shot to be the starting slot role at some point in time in season

I complimented Jordan Addison

Uh

Same as you did that with Bryant West go to us. I said West go was tall Jordan Addison coming to our school

Yeah, but burrows is like almost to a T like the size. I'm pretty sure that Addison was coming out of high school

Yeah, similar size build skill set

I haven't I haven't met my notes as the yakiest guy at the top of the list anyways between a lot of these guys at the top

I really think that he kind of like thrives in space compared to some other guys like I just think he has a good feel for

Becoming a runner like after he gets the ball. This is you know, like he played a majority outside, but I think

You know, you probably project him as a slot guy rather like like you were saying like ending up in the slot between the two

Guides that they have there as well you like he has shown the ability to win down field

But that's kind of like where I think his projection probably lies massive myths on the guy too

I think you guys have like a hundred percentile number on his on his uh on his hand or something like that

Which is like insane like the yeah

Yeah, he did strike me as like a potential high floor guy more so than like a upside guy

But but yeah, I do see the the like white people like him

Our athletic profile comps have Johan Dotson in there too, and I honestly doesn't feel like back

That is like in the ballpark of what he could be too, so yeah

Yeah, so the only guy on my list probably not on your guys list

I know you guys don't like him as big as I do, but I do have sedary Morgan going over to Alabama

Slipping in at number four here six four two twenty

It's just like your size speed guy right like 87 starting next that we have 21.3 miles per hour 21.76 200 meter

The 4.5 940 track times tells me that he could probably get a little bit more out of that

maybe

Just because of like the track times that he's had like

So I think he could probably top that a little bit more, but um it is a a volatile range of outcomes when you're talking about these guys

But I see a lot of

A lot of things that I kind of like I think he has one of the better all around production profiles 150 catches

2600 yards and 30 touchdowns over the last two years at a pretty decent level of competition

18s strength of schedule

You know a lot of his usage was more of like that short intermediate, which I don't think you'd expect to hear from the type of athletic profile

Like it almost gave me shades of like obviously a lot of people won't like this

But it gave me shades of like Xavier look at during his breakouts season like a lot of slants a lot of screens in breakers

Saviour Williams to yeah, but but he was like running back and like a lot of like other stuff to like

But it it was more like shorter touches right and then like taking

Using or and then like beating the defense with just with like pure speed afterwards. So um, I don't know like you watched it more

And I was that quarterback issues or was that something that you just think is more just his game is just getting the ball short like that

I don't think he's a good receiver right now. Oh, okay

But I think he's just really good and crazy physical with the ball in his hands

And you basically cannot stop him and like one-on-one contested catch situations like yeah, basically impossible. So

I've been said like his athletic profile if you go to it the

Comp number one is Michael Pittman, Jr

Comp number six is Saviour Williams

That kind of feels like the spectrum that he's on like if he can figure out why to see for a little bit

You can just come maybe power slot him a little bit and have him beat some guys up and he can do the

Pitman thing if he doesn't then it just feels like he's like a manufactured touch

Probably pretty good in college and then just you know the NFL doesn't really care too much

That that's kind of the spectrum for him Drake London is also in his comparable

But I don't think he holds anywhere near that level of fluidity right now like I that to me would be like a total pipe dream at this point for him

Yeah, I think he does he lacks refinement as like the a route runner

I think overall like deception anything you kind of say it's like you'd think I would learn my lesson with these side speed guys

Who rely like on traits one of these days? I'm telling you guys it's gonna work out and I'll be laughing to the bank when this guy's

You know the next Julio Jones

You know, but but I also see some good

Opportunity there with Alabama

I guess like as some of you alluded to before where he's kind of like the only guy with that skill said

Although you could have said the same thing about Horton last year and he didn't really do anything

So I don't really know federal end up leading to anything with Alabama

But at least for now he's he's slipped into this number five for me just with with what I kind of saw for him

I had ranked him a little bit this year

I wasn't a huge fan

But I did put him as like my lowest four star. He's my one zero nine

Just because of like yeah, like if things I don't even think it's like the 100th percentile outcome

If he can hit like the 65th percentile outcome, I think that's probably a fairly decent profile not perfect

Maybe like water super two in the NFL

But yeah, I

The stiffness and just like the lack of feel kind of worries me right now

Mm

All upside. I don't think they're gonna move off of a Ryan Williams on the outside of you there

You know, it's it seems like I would assume Williams and Brooks are on the field irons in the time

Yeah, yeah, you're pretty much talking about just being like that that other outside guy because you're probably running Brooks in the slot for

For most of it, so

Yeah, I'd say there's some decent opportunity there, but

Yeah, it's stool stool mister

That's like that's what drew me to like booby feaster. I was like what does USC have

Like he's gonna get on the field later. There's no way

And yeah, I can reassess after year one if you I think he's good or not, but like watching I rewind some else kind of like

man, this guy's really raw

The deceptions like I mean like he was

I like his release, but it just feels like everything everything that looks like he's he's

Putting so much effort into each step. It's kind of like exaggerates that forward

And it's just like it takes too much time. It's not a smooth process for him to like actually put into step into the route

So it's it's it's we're watching booby feaster, but initially I was kind of like this guy should break your one zero easily

He has a lot of ways to move in right now

I think it was big water see forgot that at one point told me that he thought he kind of reminded of Rashad Bateman

And I think that's a pretty good comp for him. Oh, it's not bad

Yeah, I can see that and then I mean you're talking about a guy who was was

Uber productive as well like I mean super strong production in 25 like

Averging 100 plus yards game 18 plus yards per exception as a two big guy

Yeah, and would often like be like f this like I'm just gonna go play on the number one water seeper on the other guy

Or on the other team. Yeah, so he's a he's destroying and then he's just like screw this

I'm just gonna reclassify early and just go do this at the next level because like clearly I'm 100 times better than everybody here

So but again, that's the part you worry about when you're winning on just because you're like your traits are much better or

You just feel like you can win as much like does he

Have that drive to get a little bit better. He's gonna rely on those traits the next level

It's always kind of the question we have with some of these guys who just like dominate so much, but um

But yeah, I do think there's some good opportunity there at USC. You're talking about what to look kinds and then

Who's used to have their wife? They brought in Terrell Anderson from NC State and then it's all freshmen

So yeah, it's just hinders

It says I think there's six freshmen in the class that they bring in this year water suit

Hines probably profiles as your flanker type

I would say you're probably gonna run Terrell Anderson as your ex in the sense like I know

Like their exes haven't even had like that much production over the years

So I like I don't think that that's crazy to say that he's probably like in the x-roll or whatever

And maybe you're seeing Feaster play the slot

You know, he's got you can kind of move around the formation and stuff like that as well

He should fit seamlessly into an offense. It's just can you refine those kind of abilities?

There's there's there's there's so much on paper that's so positive about booby Feaster

And then we watch the tape you're like, oh wow, this is

Not what I expected way roller that I thought he's gonna be yeah

Areas that he scored really well for me personally. I have a 77 and a half point rubric for wide receivers

Not that's 77 and a half different categories, but that's like the total points

scored very well in like hands and catch point like his physicality. I think is there for sure

coordination body control is there

And then like flexibility like those kinds of things, but then I did give him perfect competitiveness score

Which isn't like a huge chunk of points, but like I he's just like got that dog in him

Like he just one of those guys that like would not shock me if at some point he's getting like a fight

Like where he's got the guys helmet ripped off and he's like, you know swinging it to do like he's just

He just likes fighting every down like he will

Like almost to a fault, but like Jamar chase was kind of like that too at times like yeah

You kind of I would prefer that than like a guy that's just like, you know, whatever out here. So

And then the data scores were good. So like that that that all got him you know the

The route running stuff was like average-ish to like slightly above average

So that's what he's gonna have to work on but so I think he can play anywhere. I think he can play

slot I think you can even probably play X depending on how he develops

And I think he can do you know short and immediate deep like I think he's got a high level like roll and positional versus tilt

I didn't watch any chase Matthew's quarry. I just he towards ACL and I was kind of like whatever

I know I put him on here. I'm still holding it and I do feel like he's probably

He's maybe lacking some perceived upside

With him, but I found him to be like

Pretty polished as a player as well like kind of a big slot player mainly played like inside

Which is kind of a surprise, but you know gave us the ability to see some of his

Like first facility to win all three levels of the field

I think like showed off some of the release package, you know

Tough enough to deal with physical corners. Especially, you know in a day and age in NFL now where

NFL teams are asking nickel nickel DBs to be like way more physical and aggressive than like they've ever been like jamming at the line

And stuff and I think that you know seeing that he's he was able to handle that a lot of the time

Kind of

Resonated with me. I have any my notes here like good concentration and ball tracking above the rim

You know, and then the ACL just throws a whole wrench into that. So I there's a hard evaluation for me to figure out

But I just liked some of the polish he showed, you know, especially in that junior season

on that he had so

I like him

I like the opportunity at Ole Miss as well

for him and

You know, we'll see where it goes, but it's it worries me if he can get on the field how where it's kind of going

Is he the guy who has done a little bit of stuff? I remember in one of these profiles

So let me throw their knee as done a little bit of stuff afterwards

See the guy who's done a little bit of stuff already or is he there's been no activity for him whatsoever

Austin I I haven't seen anything on him, but I didn't write his profile

I would assume maybe big wide receiver did because he was a big fan of his let's see

Jason Matthews. Yeah big wide receiver guy wrote it

There's no mention. It's just saying if you come out the summer healthy, he should be in the rotation

Yeah, I'm I'm not 100% sure if he's if he's been

If he's has been I will say like a for a guy like him like he's only played wide receiver for one year

Yeah, junior year was his first year doing it. So I get there another guy

I don't give out a lot I knew because I just said it about the feature

I really don't give out a lot of perfect scores and competitiveness. Jace Matthews also got a perfect score and competitiveness for me

Because he just like I wrote that like he lacks some technique

But what he made any but like what he makes up for is just like effort and just like sheer wanting it and athleticism

Kind of combined. I do think that he could be limited to the slot

Because he does not attack down field very well right now

Like he doesn't really have much of a game plan

But it kind of makes sense because he has been playing wide receiver that long either to to have you know kind of learned that skill

Yeah, I think he's just a polished guy and with the opportunity there

I just kind of threw him into this list as well as a guy who I think maybe could

Make a little bit of noise some of the other names that maybe I considered towards the end here

You know a lot of love around Davin gross going over to Florida as well

More of a guy who is like you know doubled as a wide receiver running back in high school a lot

So at some point some evaluators thought he would fit better as like a running back

Which kind of speaks to the ability as like an open field runner as well

I went with the ball on his hands as well 2500 rushing yards 300 300 receiving yards over his career

But really only overly focused on wide receiver as a senior and was able to show enough skills

I think to you know project him a little bit easier to seeing him as just like a way a pure wide receiver

I still think he's about some work to do

Um, but I could picture you know you kind of use some kind of similar way that that can tuck you use

Burian brown and freshman season, you know the kind of little skin touches maybe take some shots

Very athletic profile as well 6197 pounds. He checked in at as well

One of the more athletic wide receivers. I think in this entire class 93.3 star index

99th percentile speed 22.5 miles per hour 20.5 200 meter

10.700 meter 4.46 40 35 inch vertical

So you know there there is an element of that he was like an extension of the run game in a sense, but

He's a guy that you if he can develop in all the right ways you can see the upside with him

A player that I'm enamored with

Germaine Bishop from Texas

I um

Let me tell you a little story real quick. I know there's a trend of like

athletes and each each class being making to the NFL. Sorry like Robert was there's like a streak of like five or six years straight of like

One of the top athletes were actually relevant for NFL draft and actually became relevant in fantasy football for the NFL

That that streak has been broken like last two or three years. We just have been dry for a hot minute

But Germaine bishops here to bring it back

I

The lessons are really awesome. I love the athleticism. Um

I just I'm just like over here like could you be something here because Texas is a little bit dry

Like uh, we're not fans of Wingo and then Moses getting a really a really soft pass for me

I want to see like week one or two from mostly, but

Like it feels like the dead parts a bit open here for Texas. That's all I'm saying a lot of athletic upsides for this guy

I understand that there is concern that he plays corner, but this is a type of gamble. I like to take because that's how you give him a kind of limiting your roster

For what it's worth there was there was no there was no rumors that lemon would play corner until like week nine of his freshman year

And then I always felt weird to me. I was like where did this come from

You see people

They were like

They were like these were hurt. Yeah, I'm like so

Why him? Yeah, they just asked him to play and then be purports were like all this guy is going to corner

It's like no, they just have to line up over there because can you imagine that dude lined up with cross him just going like

He froze if lured he was moving so fast it froze his camera. Yeah, he's he's he's frozen as well. Yeah, that's actually hilarious

That was great. That was so he pressed some kind of buttons. I was doing my best macaillem and you know just worth and impressions

Yeah

Oh, this is a three sport athlete with an elite max speed of 22.2 miles per hour. I just you know, there's just

Highly productive Texas competition. It really wasn't like that top of Texas. So I'm kind of saying they just to say it but

Uh, I'm just I'm just excited about I'm just excited. This could be a small guy though to rate and like 160

Yeah, 165

Yeah, that was the one thing that kind of threw me off what his profile didn't make me like you know

Dive in as much as maybe I would have gone on some of the other guys, but yeah, I looked at him a little bit

I looked at Kate and Dixon Wyatt who I just you know, he was a guy who I think was really talked about highly

More so last year before like this senior season and like when he was still in Ohio state commit

Before he flipped and I remember looking I just get like a very possessiony kind of feel from him

Like I just don't I didn't really love anything. I saw

The only other last guy I'd mentioned before I kicked it to Austin for his like sleeper

um

And it's not a great place again. This is where I'm just and I'm just

Analyzing the player more it samson gash going over to michigan state

Very highly athletic kid bloodline of athletes in the family 21.8 miles per hour 10.4 100 meter 21.36 200 meters

750 rushing yards and 2500 receiving yards over the past two years including a monster tenure campaign

Counted for 21 hundred yards 35 touchdowns against the 29.4 strength schedule. So I mean

Very just like from a datasheet perspective very nice. I feel like

With his with the type of skill set

He runs he could kind of be like michigan states Andrew Marsh, which is what I'm saying is just like a very big

Transitional period for michigan state right now

They might just be looking for a guy to get to scheme some easy touches to that can work out very well

I could see him kind of like feeling and it's like it's not over refined from like a a route running perspective

It's a mix of vertical shots and like it's the same thing with with gross is being an extension of the run game

But if you just kind of ask him to do what Andrew Marsh did this year for michigan

I think you could excel in that type of role

With like some scheme touches some kick return ability to there's just a ton of opportunity there in machine state as well

It's you know no real standout receivers in the room

I don't know how to feel about the quarterback there a lessio milla Joe Joe vick or whatever that his name is

Or whatever but but dashes still said at least

Um will make for like some less risky throws

I guess which could help him get some easy yard

So maybe just a guy just deeper on the list that kind of just like pop to me a little bit

My last leaver before awesome wraps up the whole show

He's Campbell. I actually like chase Campbell

Texas tech. I don't know why I was like a text text guys

Um, but I thought he had three sport athletes very refined early breakouts. I saw more 87 catches 14 hundred yards and 17 touchdowns

um

He's just his tape flashed a little bit of everything it was a little bit of everything good route running

Some deep balls in there him actually blocking to there was a little bit of everything and so I'm kind of excited about that

Texas tech is still one of those bridges hasn't developed anybody but

Maybe they know his name more than no Michael Hudson's name. So I don't know. It's it's really just cool. You can there and Mackle Simmons and I think it's kind of an open room in my opinion at this point. So

Campbell very very fish very efficient player in high school might be able to transfer over here. I'm pretty confident. He's used to get to be able to break the 1-0

It's all fun and games until their coach calls him chance Campbell and week two and

We have a meltdown here at campus the camp again

My heart can no longer take that

Um, I like Campbell. He's my water see pretend. He's my he's my highest rate. It'll be star. So

Um, I do like that play

Uh, how deep do you want me to go?

You're just pick one your favorite guy

Maybe a little bit of dead don't give me like a 150 pound guy like it's gotta be at least dead

Yeah, yeah, be real be real as a be real be real. All right my favorite wide receiver in this class is Cohen Brown

Oh, okay, and for the whole cycle he was like wide receiver 100 something in the composite and I was like

I don't understand this at all because he was he played really strong high school competition in Texas

And was a 97th percentile production guy like big big numbers

And he's a 93rd percentile athlete in our database. He's got we've got him like 22.6 miles per hour

Which is like 99th point 99.3rd percentile for speed like

511 and a half 190 pounds

He reminds me a little bit

This is gonna sound like not positive

But he reminds me a little bit of Isaiah Categna coming out of high school who I did like like I had Categna be

Graded like very similarly to to Brown

Um, and then at the very end of the cycle

I think it was 24-7 that was holding him down and now he's like wide receiver 40

And now we don't look like we're having like nearly the the shot calling that we were with with him

But he to me that like he reminds me a lot of Categna

At a high school like

Are there some route running nuances that I think he could do better with and maybe you know

We see these super speedsters like they never really pick that up

Certainly possible, but I think that he's just like he's got NFL sides NFL athleticism

Awesome production and the Texas stuff is yeah, you don't feel great about him playing there this year either

But technically I believe well with the boost maybe he is inside the top 300 now

Maybe I shouldn't say that as we say we don't

Well Austin cut out a little bit there again, but

Cliff Hanger yeah, yeah

Cohen Brown going to Texas gonna be a guy that I'm gonna throw on my list to get so get some eyes on and see

This modern water see from old. I know Austin's really big honor this 616 6 foot 190

85 pounds

I know Austin loves those guys because I do look for the oh that I do look for the star in day like the high star in next guys and the

Star in next plus a good program and like the clearest depth chart like those are my favorites

All right before we let everybody get out of here on this on this very long show just to say that we did it

Austin give us your top

Five tight ends no analysis no nothing just top five. I don't want to hear it. No nothing else. It's a stick tight end class

It is it's a good and that's why I got to mention it. I'm sure I'm sure it is

We'll check about it. Oh my gear about it. That is a good tight end class. I'll just there top five tight ends and schools done

It's a big six. So I gotta I gotta go six. Oh big six

And when I'm shooting guys. Yes. Mark Bowman going to USC Ian Primer going to Notre Dame Gavin Mooler going to Miami

Matt Ludwig going to Texas Tech

Kid in Pro Throw going to Georgia and Max Sutter going to Alabama. I think we're the big six this year. Wow amazing

Guys, thank you so much for joining us tonight

Join us next week when me and Corey will tell you what we won't be I don't know we're doing next we will figure it out

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