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Can Chelsea rock champions Arsenal? Plus Everton’s disastrous window

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The craziest transfer window ever has been shut - now it’s time for the football / podcasters to do the talking.


Jimbo welcomes Natalie Gedra, Nick Miller and Julien Laurens into the studio ahead of a Premier League weekend headlined by Arsenal against Chelsea.


Arteta and Alonso have both managed two victories out of two in very different ways. Which will win out this Sunday? The control of the champions or the chaos of the Blues?


Everton host Man United and a mutinous home crowd after a disastrous Deadline Day that leaves them with only 18 outfield players. Could David Moyes walk away?


Man City broke records with their expenditure, bringing in Ndiaye and Fernandez on Deadline Day. Do they almost have too much talent for Maresca to handle?


Spurs reunite Mykhailo Mudryk with Roberto De Zerbi as they seek a first point or goal of the season away at Forest.


Plus Fofana, Fernandez-Pardo, food phobia and a Ballon d’Or winner playing in England.


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Video Producer: Jake Liascos


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00:00 Hello!

01:48 Balogun, private jets and a crazy end to the transfer window

08:18 Ranking the transfers

11:39 Arsenal v Chelsea preview

16:30 Everton v Man United preview

21:22 Enzo Fernandez + Man City v Coventry preview

26:35 Ipswich v Liverpool preview

30:10 Mykhailo Mudryk +Nottingham Forest v Spurs preview

35:18 Newcastle v Bournemouth preview

39:25 The WSL returns

40:40 The rest of the Premier League weekend


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Can Chelsea rock champions Arsenal? Plus Everton’s disastrous window

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Enzo Fernandez to Man City was this check of summer transfer, a dramatic last minute reversal involving following Balagum, that's new, and other toffee knows, and Spurs.M for Mudry. Then we look ahead to match day three, having to man United, forest spurs, Arsenal Chelsea, Chaos Control, and we can't call them. It's a totally football show. Thursday, the third of September, it's brand new totally football show for you. And here at the studio, well, we got Nick Miller for a start. Hi, Nick, good to see you. Oh, James, good to see you too. Natalie Gendra of SketchBots. Well, hello. Hi, Natalie, lovely to see you too. Great to see you, James. And welcome back, Julian L'Ohron. Thank you, James. It's really, I'm super happy to be back. He's great to be back. I mean, you're our Deadline Day signing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Have you been very happy? Very good and you, do you have a good walk up? All of you? Yeah. We were all there. Yeah. It was good. It was amazing. It was great. It was amazing. Nick, since the walk up, you went off to Turkey for a piece involving Mo Salar and Camels. I did, yeah.

I went to Trabson for his first home game, first start for Trabson Sport, and rounded the corner on the stadium, and there was a chap there with a camel to welcome Salar in the most appropriate, not culturally insensitive way. Natalie, we saw a lot of you during the World Cup, never enough, I feel, but what have you been up to since? Got a lot. Last weekend I was at Sutherland, for Sutherland Fulham, the week before I was at Mancita, did Carabao Cup, did Championship. And you got strong thoughts on Fulham, in particular, haven't you? Oh, yeah. We'll get into those because we're going to have a look through, they match, say, three fixtures, of course. Before we do that, though, how about we just catch up a little bit on how the transfer market ended on Tuesday night? So it was by popular consent, the craziest deadline day ever. There was the huge tree for Enzo Fernandez, there was that dramatic plot twist with Fulham Balagan, there was rival private jets joling over in European airspace.

Well, it's only on the tarmac. On the tarmac. Ready to go and one way. But they were ready for a deathfire. One went the other states. That's the thing. Crazy. This was for Malik Fafano of Leon. Let's begin, though, with Enzo Fernandez, because Nick, you wrote a piece about this. So upset were you. You live it. Absolutely, live it, though. Off you go, then. It just seems like everyone knew that this was going to happen from, like, the most. Third of April, you mentioned. Pretty much, yeah, which is when he, the founders were suspended by Chelsea for saying off-collar things about potentially going to Ralmadrid. And then, you know, from pretty much when Roderie left it seemed, left-money city seemed inevitable that he was going to go there. And it just, it was just all this kind of negotiating and posturing and various other things that meant that it only happened at the last minute, which kind of scuppered various things, well, people. Well, indeed, and for themselves, but Chelsea, having known since the 3rd of April, they needed to replace him, ended up doing the deal after the transfer of mint market had closed and couldn't get a replacement

as a result, interesting. Yeah, the whole Lamyan Kamara thing, tied up with Balagun and it was all very complicated, which to a point was not, it was out of Chelsea's control, but if they hadn't, they've left it to that lake, then, you know. Yeah, you had that deadline, didn't they? Of the Friday, 10 days before saying like, if you don't offer 120 by night, if silver is finished and we all knew, this was never going to happen. I mean, that's obviously not a deadline. Exactly. Do the, do the, do the, do the, do the, do the, do the, do the, do the, that's going to help them next time they say, because the deadline, honest. Absolutely, yeah. Tell us then, Jules, what happened with following Balagun? So Monica needed to sell. Ideally, yeah, they were not as, as much in need of cash than Lyon, for example, for Fina, whom that was a must sell, but they could do with, with one more sell this summer. They did well, they sold well, like I clearly used to PSG, but it was clearly that one of Balagun and Kamara was the next one, and then that would have been their perfect window in terms of bringing money in, basically. And Balagun, they were happy to let him go. He wanted to come back to England and the Premier League.

Kamara, their throw is 22, he's the best player, more than Balagun, more important even. They wanted to keep him ideal, really. So Chelsea had been knocking at the door all summer, and they've always said no. And for Balagun, once they found an agreement with Everton, therefore this is perfect. He's going to go to Everton, we get that money in. We have his wages off the wedge bill, and we can keep Kamara building the team around him, even if he's just for a season, that's fine. Kamara was a little bit, not disappointed because I think he was happy to stay, but he spoke into a few people, I think, around Chelsea. He was kind of excited with the idea of maybe going to Chelsea, but it was Balagun to Everton. And until 7 p.m., it was all going according to plans. And then Everton said, hang on, there's a problem with Balagun's medical. Right. Monaco said, there's no problem with Balagun's fitness. Balagun said, there's no problem with my fitness, my knees, my thighs, nothing. But that kind of set back that deal for a little bit. And then Monaco panicked to Ben and say, what happens if Balagun doesn't go to Everton? We still need something.

So they called Chelsea or Chelsea called them and said, hey, what about Kamara to us? So suddenly Kamara was back on, Kamara got excited. Chabi Alonzo called Kamara. Kamara was like, yeah, this is for me, I want that move. And then Balagun changed his mind. Because Everton said, actually, you're right, there was nothing wrong with him. We ready to sign. We signed you the paper work. And then his Balagun who said, so at that point, Monaco said, okay, so we're not selling Kamara to Chelsea. So Balagun goes to Finch Farm. He's already there for the whole day. He was on Liverpool. And when basically, when Everton went back to Monaco and said, actually, it's all good for Balagun. We do this deal. There's nothing wrong with him. Then Monaco called Chelsea and said, sorry guys, the Kamara did is not going to happen because we don't need to sell him anymore. But Balagun then changes his mind. Why, Jules? Why? He said, which, in a way, I'm not sure if I buy completely, but I said, I don't like what Everton did here. They didn't believe me. They didn't treat me well. They thought I was injured. I was telling them there was no injury. There was no problem with me. And yet, they still doubted me.

And I don't want to go that. Yeah, the sporting director told the BBC apparently that he wasn't comfortable after everything that happened in the way that Everton dealt with the situation. Was the suggestion that Everton would try to chip a bit off the price? Yeah, really go see it maybe a little bit. Which is bad for them because I think Everton had a terrible window mostly because of that too. Yeah, so I'm not sure I really understand what they were playing. I can understand chassis frustration for sure. Monaco is saying we played our hands. One of them was going to go. He should have been Balagun. And because everything was agreed with Balagun, then Camaro is never going to move. All right. Well, we'll talk about what that means for Everton. And indeed, some of the other big deals that went through at the end. The Malik for Final Business. And there's amazing. We're lovely to have someone fly a private jet in just to pick you up. But have two rival clubs there with their jets parked on the tarmac saying, join us. What a thrill for him. They haven't quite regularly. Not two, but yeah, that's Clubs 10, private jet for you to come over. Yeah, two have two because one is trying to hijack the deal of the other is great. Almost literally.

Would it be great if they were actually hijacked? Sunderland's, I mean, obviously not. That's illegal. We'll get into anyway, some of the details later on. But when the dust had settled, I read that Premier League clubs had broken the summer spending record for a second straight year, 3.46 billion or figures there about. To put that in perspective, that is more than the other top five leagues put together. Italy, Spain, Germany and France incredible. The bigger spenders from the Premier League were Man City who spent 458 millions worth of cash, but they did recoup quite a lot in sales. Oh, they also got Illuminum Jai. That was a from Everton, we've now been left with one striker until January and that striker is well. Yeah, no worry. Yeah, 18 senior outfield players. So one injury. That's what I've got. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, Tim Spears, lovely piece on the athletic ranking all 155 transfers.

He said that the best. Well, in third place, he said he had Sangri, who's been great, no? I mean, well, if I'm a fan of him. Maybe my number one to be fair. Woody. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Bruner G to Arsenal. He's got in second place. Would he be your number one? When you talk about you can't buy mentality. Maybe you can. Yeah, maybe you can. Interesting. Maybe he's just shopping the wrong places, Spurs. He puts top as Emmy Martinez. What do you think about that, Nick Miller? Yeah, I mean, he's better. He's better than what Chelsea already had, but. Okay. People, he does have a horrible error in him every now and then. People could do seems to kind of forget it a little bit. Yes, but he also steps up in big games. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. He's definitely better than that. Yeah, yeah. Not necessarily the best player, but the best fit and the best move in terms of what they were, what were they are needing? Yeah. And the difference it makes to the side. And the price, because it's really cheap. Exactly. The price was... The bottom, the bottom of his list, the worst transfers. He's got, well, the very worst one, a manual emega.

Emega? Emega. Emega is a trustworthy Chelsea 21 million, he says. Yeah. Like, it's a bit harsh, because he was really good. On the, if you just look at the footballer on the pitch, what kind of player is it? A ability. He's a number nine with pace that is good technically, Dutch. So with that kind of formation, if you want, off the pitch is had so many controversies as Teresbois. Oh, really one kind of controversies. He once told us, so Teresbois did really well, especially on the Lea Mosinio, with him too, by the way, including against top clubs. And there was a couple of games where he was not involved and they lost, I think, to PhD and to Marseille or something. And after the game that he was back on and they won, he basically came in and said, well, I was in there against PhD and Marseille. So basically they lost because I was in there. That kind of very Dutch attitude of, I am the best here. He wears sunglasses even at night time. He has all the blinks and everything.

Right. I think it could be a great guy to have an addressing room and also a bit of a toxic guy to have an addressing room. So I think bottom is a bit harsh. Right. And again, we haven't seen him on pitch yet. He might be great for them. I don't know. He's still recovering from an injury, but I can also see where team is coming from in a way. Down there anyway, he also has Mikhail Moudric, which is one of the most perplexing deals. And we will get onto that when we talk about Tottenham, Hotspur, loan deal that is with a 75 million pound option to buy, as Tim says, if they exercise that option at the end of the season, he will quit journalism and become a welder. Become a welder. So it's going to be a lot of Wienhalle Boudric fans out there. Arguably we need welders more than we need journalists. Well, what's a welder? To when you melt metal to fuse things together. You fuse things with a blowtorch and that you weld them together. OK. Anyway, yeah, good to hear for him. Very specific. The Galbans. All right. Well, let's see.

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but you know Arsenal already showed the exciting Arsenal and the one new to the Arsenal. Let's just control this thing. You know they can play in very different ways especially after the weight of the Premier League being done off their shoulders but with Chelsea's vulnerability in defence. I mean we're talking about a team like Arsenal who can absolutely take advantage of that and control that game. So I'm interested to see how much chaos Chelsea can create around such a control team like Arsenal. Right. I'm also looking forward to seeing Chelsea's front three in action again. They look like incredibly well-suited to each other already. I mean when people of us we did something about the best signing of the summer and I felt quite stupid suggesting Morgan Rogers because he's kind of 117 million pounds it's not exactly the most original take but just because of how well those three forwards

have fused together already it just feels like the perfect signing. In the system that are lost so much. Yeah, it is perfect. So the question is at the other end for Chelsea and is that something you see you show you Lanzo's sorting out? I mean do you count with the results so far? Do you count Chelsea's potential title contenders this season? I think they will push Arsenal to a certain extent and I've got them finished second in kind of really early predictions of the season because I think at some point he should get them more balanced which I've got Lanzo. I think it's still quite new. There's new players, it's a different system. There's a lot of things to understand. Like Hato is now left wingback for example or Rogers will have to defend a bit more. He will understand that I think as the season progresses I think. And you have time to train? Yeah and yeah and you have no European competition so it's one game a week. So I think they will get there, they will finish top four and I think the pro yeah for me they will be the closest. However some of the stuff that we've seen but we saw a Bayer Leverquin which I've got Lanzo in terms of

it's open company name, everybody's welcome here especially opposition you know for Brighton to create so much. In again that okay Chelsea ended up winning but as time from which to go that half the board that merged high so many passes and Chelsea being so passive at times I thought was a little bit worrying too. Yeah we've fallen the way they were. And the way for two. And the possession thing is very intriguing because it makes you think of the bigger picture. Are is it sustainable for a team to really compete up until the final rounds for the Premier League having not a lot of possession? Lester did it. Yeah yes Lester was the last team that did it. Okay. But after that we went through the Guardiola era where it was a thing and recently Arsenal they were the fourth team in terms of possession less less season. So it wasn't their most important asset. So maybe it can be interesting you know how can they you know dominate games without because when I saw the 26% against

Brighton I was surprised because it didn't look like 26%. I think because they are so dangerous on the ball it just looks exciting doesn't look passive all the time but as you said it looks passive at times. Arsenal can have a lot of the ball on Sunday. I would expect so yeah. Well 30 it's the Super Sunday game. Looking forward to that will be recording our weekend roundup. You can join us live on the YouTube if you fancy. But that will be straight after events at the Emirates. What else is happening in match day three? Well the round starts on Friday evening with Ibswich Liverpool to next time to talk about the 1230 game on Saturday's Newcastle Bournemouth. Jules is hot for that one. The three o'clock games of the Saturday are Brentford, Sunderland, Forest Spurs, Man City commentary, full of palace and Brighton Leeds and then at 530 it's how looking to continue their perfect start at home to Aston Villa. We can't be contrast that one. Sunday, Everton Man United at 2 before the clash at the Emirates.

Natalie, you're going to Everton Man United for Sky Sports. You're Dickinson, yes. Yeah, enjoy the donuts. Okay, thank you. Is it your first time? No, no, no, I've been there. Yeah, but I haven't had the donuts. No, you need it. Because when you're doing life TV, you don't want to... Yeah, you don't want to... You know one of my food is eating in stadiums. I never eat a stadiums. And in price, yeah, in price lounges and price boxes. We have great food in the United States. Yeah, it's exactly. But I don't touch the food and everybody says, why are you not eating us like I can't? Because I'm too scared having something between you two. You could eat and floor. I know you could floor us, but I'm not a floor thing. You know, it's not just the thing you could get stuff down. Yeah, everything. They never do that. But yeah, no, it's absolutely true. I'm not telling you not to touch the donuts. No, but yeah, but I'm not as extreme. I really like food. Yeah, the toffee treat is the branded doughnut. There's a sponsored thing. Everything got into a little bit of trouble

because they put out a tweet involving donuts to kind of hint at the fact that Jack Krelish was returning. But this was a rant about the time that they weren't getting followed in Balagun and everybody else, Rishalus and everyone else, he said no, I'd said no to them. And then Xerx say, for example, and then Jai had left as well. So I think there was some, there was some quite, set evidence and supporters at the fact that they now got 18 senior players, one center forward. And I think one fall back. Yeah, I think that's right. Right back is a position they wanted. Just went through as well. Right. It didn't happen. But don't touch. Even the player they kept ultimately in Harrison Armstrong, they managed to upset the fans. Because in the end, the board intervened and he didn't go because of the backlash. But I am very intrigued to see how the atmosphere will be and how fans will manifest their lack of... Solution. Their displeasure, yes, with the transfer, which is completely justified, I should say.

If David Moise, you attempted to walk away. I really do. I think he had been vocal all summer long. Since the first day of their preseason of like, we need more players, we need better players. You can build on what you did last season because I think they had a good season for the first year in the new stadium. So I'd say that they even know over performance. Yeah, and I think with this crazy window where everybody's strengthened, including the three prominent sides that went mad on their spending and everything. And then you've got Everton, who are weaker than they were like a month ago even. And you think like, how is that even possible? And Eddie, how? Left Newcastle because he got to a point where he had enough of losing his best friend, having to kind of rebuild all the time. If you David Moise, you're like, I'm too old for this now, like, what are you doing? Okay. Man United, their opponents on a day in which they would love to have a good performance. But Man United, how impressed have you been with their start to the season with not so much the defeat to hull? How impressed were you with their performance? It's which last weekend? Well, I know there were positives,

but from a foreign perspective, I feel like everything around Man United is too much for the good and the bad. So if they have a terrible performance, it's a tragedy. If they have a good performance, oh my God, they're back. All right, what are they? They backers the tragic. Well, it's probably something in between and we have to wait and see. And that's my point with Man United. And I know it's not the most exciting one, but it is the truth because they have shown, they showed a lot of energy and positives in their performance against tipswitch, but at the same time, they relied on Bruno Fernandes again. They had other good performers. Don't get me wrong, they are positive signs with Marcus Rache for the midfield was much better than it was against whole city, but you still have the problems. Yeah, especially after the transfer window, the fact that they didn't address the left back position makes no sense to me, really. And also gambling quite a lot on signing the 24, 25 version of Carlos Belabor,

rather than the one who was pretty rubbish last season. Wasn't even a regular in Bryan's first team, but in the season. Yeah, we don't know, which, but I don't even know if he's going to play because he had an injury during the pre-season. So Carrick said something about two or three weeks. So I think he's not going to be fit for this one. I'm not sure. But yeah, he, at his prime, he was incredibly talented and he is an asset. But we don't really know how he's going to be. The first half against Ypsch was not very good. The second half, much better. Yeah, very good against the team. He's a promoted team that is not that great either. So I think we'd wait a bit. They got quite lucky with the goal. They maybe shouldn't have been a goal and the Hamburg. This is a much bigger test for them, I think than any of the first two games. Will everson, like a donut, get battered. We'll find out. What else is happening? Man City are up against Coventry. The ends of Fernandez reuniting with Mareska for that British record, 125 million. Is he worth that? Is anybody? Yeah, good guys. Is he worth it to City?

But it's very intriguing. How, I mean, he can add something very different to that midfield. What's the add? He's a really good box to box. He developed really well in that role under Mareska. In Mareska was a box to box midfield. The midfitter back in his day. But like if you have Elio Tenderson and you have Insofernandez and you have Nico Riley or Marquette he playing, doing this pairing with Elio Tenderson. Where is Cherokee? I'm just wondering how this can affect their formation with Cherokee. Of course, we're talking about a full season with European football and there's gonna be rotation. But he brings a variety to this and he breaks control as well to suit his midfield. He's really good in setting the pace and keeping the ball. So it's very interesting what the alternative that Mareska has now to set up his team. Okay, I'm wondering what about Eleman Giai? I think he's a backup to Doku on one of the two wingers. Or certainly now they are four wingers with Alan.

I also signed from Brazil who is, I don't think he's a world class player. I don't think he's a bit older already. I don't think he will ever be a world class player. You know exactly what you're gonna get. He works hard defensively. He is good going forward. So it's a menu, Alan and Giai and Doku and you've got four for two positions. And I agree with Natalie in the sense that now you've probably have the best quality in the league, level with Arsenal potentially. That's a lot of options. It's a lot of different profiles from Mareska where he will have to find the right formula. Whether that's a bit of rotation, whether that's a set 11 and system information. But it will have to click because I don't think Enzo can play in a double pivot. He could know with KC though. He certainly cannot do that with any Anderson. So you need maybe body with any Anderson or even a Rally, but Rally is not a defensive midfield either. So where do you play Cherokee, offer them and your two wingers? And then suddenly you look at all those different things that Mareska can do and you think, well, maybe we struggle to find the best 11 here and that could be a problem for them. They could almost have too much talent in a way

and too many options. I'm not a positive. It gives Boa G time to develop because he's a young player. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ryan Cherokee's been the star so far. The Tursus Sun Game Week one and the two girls last time out. He's a shy, unassuming type. Is this gonna be his season? I was convinced at the start of the scene that he would be his and then I see him on the bench in the competition and I'm like, really? And I know Foden had the whole summer free, obviously. So maybe he was more ready physically. But then I see Foden against Arsenal in the commission being bad and I think like, okay, this team is Cherokee's team. There's no doubt and then Foden starts again against Bournemouth Adiette and Cherokee's on the bench and Cherokee is not too happy to be on the bench because I think he thinks like me. I'm like, why am I not playing here? Definitely. Yeah. It's like that. Comes on and obviously it's changed. It wins the game for City in a way. So then he is expected to start on Friday against Palace. Palace base, not sure the day is leading into that game and again, he's a bit what's gonna happen here. He starts and I think maybe in his mind, or certainly from what I was told was that

he was so excited almost to get that starting spot on Friday night that he put a bit of pressure on him for that first half and he was not good. He was not a good first half. But what I love about Ryan Cherokee and I think we all do is a half time. He knows Maurice Guy's thinking I'm gonna take you off and he goes obviously to see him and say, yeah, give me five minutes, I'll show you. That's all he needed, five minutes, called a great goal, that only him in the league I think can score. And then after that, the momentum is there. So I expect him to start the game at the weekend in the tent. I don't really mind where Foden is if he's on the bench or white but Cherokee needs to play as a tent for this team and I think he will make things happen for them. Okay. Nick likes Cavanagh's shirt. I'd love Cavanagh's shirt. Cavanagh's shirt, yeah. The indispensable preseason kit rankings, they're a number one. Okay. That was, they're away for this game, they're not there. Yeah. If they could arrange it for them to wear the home shirt, that would be great. I don't know, I do understand. But anyway, have we watched the Pep Guardiola dog entry? Yeah, I guess so. There's a bit about it with Cherokee in that way, it's having his medical. And he's got shoe laces untied.

And they were like, can you please tie your shoe laces to him and he was like, no, no, no, I'm not doing that. I don't know. And then the guy doing the medical said, look, if you fall over and break your leg during this medical, I'm going to get sacked. So it's like, I don't know, he eventually did it. It was just, I thought it was just really funny. He trains with laces untone. And the new boots make it like, you don't really, it's still tight enough, right? You're not going to lose your boot if you shoot without the laces. But this is the style. Crazy. The part on Cherokee in that documentary, all of it, not just the miracle, but even before that, when City kind of revealed how they were thinking about before signing him, it's just fascinating because he had that reputation. And I think he showed that despite being a very different character to a lot of the players, he's still a special football. That reputation, as you say. We'll see how it pans out. It certainly looks like an arduous afternoon for Coventry against Manchester City. As for the rest of the weekend's features, I say, the games that people have picked out as being a particular interest.

Nick, for example, you're all up in that Ipswich Liverpool. Ipswich, who were the second highest net spenders. To the second T-Lopos, the net's very classical. Second to look. Oh, good Lord. Yeah. The net's been classical. They spent a total of about 195 million pounds net, just under 180, I think, 14 players. It's just finding quite interesting how different they were to the last time in the Premier League. Last time they spent, they spoke, a lot of money was about 150 million pounds, but it was all on players who were from English clubs, most of them were English. And now it's much more imaginative, I suppose. And they've signed a bunch of really interesting players. It might not eventually be doing a good, but they look pretty good against Manchester United, got a bit of that as we said, got a bit unlucky with that goal. They went ahead. And then there's Liverpool, who everyone seems very kind of pessimistic about them, and they haven't yet lost a game. They're drawn both of them to too.

But if it doesn't start working pretty soon, then people are going to start getting twitchy and panicking. You're inclined to give Ereola the benefit of the doubt because of what he achieved at Bournemouth, and also because he had a slow start there as well. But people point to structural issues. I would have been discussed at length in the Liverpool squad. How much impact does the arrival of Bradley Bakola? And how should I pronounce that properly? Bradley? Bradley? I mean, it depends if you want to say the Bradley, as in Bradley, in English or American culture, or we do in France or like Bradley. But the Bakola? Bakola? Bakola. Yeah. BB 29. Couldn't be BB 29. I will do. Why not? That's, you know, that's... He likes it. He likes his member, that's his initials. You know, BB, JL one. What do you think? I love this deal. I mean, I think they've overpaid. I love this deal with the PSG fan. So we will miss him for sure. But I can see why being part of the best team in the world,

two seasons in a row, and not having maybe the role that he would have loved to. And the best team in the world, though, Joe, was you lost the final of the club World Cup, which is specifically designed to... We kind of... Europe is not the world. We gave it to Chelsea, that one. Nobody cared to be fair, but everybody's forgotten about that competition, you know, even Donald Trump himself. But... He's like John O'Hill. Back to Black Champions League winner, you know, Bradley Bakola, BB 29. But BB 29, I think, and I can understand why BB 29 was not happy because I think he wanted to play a bit more. And certainly, people who say he was a sub... It's not really true. There was a lot of freedom within that front four, Grazkeli had to wait them better and him. And yet, okay, he was maybe not from the start in Champions League final or semi-final called the finals, but he was heavily involved in everything they did in the big part. I don't think they win those Champions League without him in the squad anyway, really. So back and see why he wanted a bigger role, a key role in a bigger club. And that's why he got. I think there's a lot of pressure on him, massively because of the price, because of this kind of new responsibility

of you will have to be the main guy I live in and I don't think that's easy. The summer where Moussala left two. So I hope he works. He's not fit yet, not much fit, because he had a preseason way he was waiting for the deal to happen, for the move to happen. So he will need a bit of time to build that, but there's a great player there. And if things click for him and for the team, then I think he can only be a success for the, I can't seem flopping really. Let's make a similar case for Mikaela Mudrick then. Great player there if it clicks, because people have raised eyebrows at this move, but he did work with Dezerby previously, with great success at Shaqt Adonisq. So is that why Spurs and could it? I mean, I guess so. I mean, it was also a sort of fairly easy thing for them to, they deal for them to do, just they needed a winger, a light in the transfer. Okay. And this guy who hasn't played for two years is it? Yeah. Which is, didn't do very much before that either. Didn't do who's remember for that. A lot of hype over the transfer at the time.

Chelsea kind of, Gazumped Arsenal, didn't they? Yeah, yeah. I got a cross-side instead of a... Yeah, yeah. And I spoke to a lot of Arsenal fans at the time who were devastated. Yes. There was this kind of Moussalaikosis that were just like, we need this guy. We can't let this guy slip there, I think. Right. And they signed Truss Arden, they won the league. Everyone was wrong about Mudric, but then. Maybe they're wrong about him this time. Is there a redemption arc in Prosperity here, Natalie? Why not? Why not? Yeah, I like to be a positive person, James. So, you know, why not? Are there evidence, are there recent evidence of that? No. Can we trust that 100%? No, but, you know, it's football. Okay. Yeah. He doesn't score many goals at Chelsea. I think it was five in the league. But back in the day. Yeah, back at Shack the Bay. Even at Chelsea, some of those goals are quite special in the sense that he's pace with the board. He's, you know, some players like have a lot of pace, but it's just, you push like another match

all the way, for example. You push the ball and you run. You don't actually dribble, pass people and using that space other than, in a way, of like being a chosen board footballer, basically. He's a bit different on that. And I know Chelsea didn't work out for him for whatever reason and then obviously the band, but maybe, maybe the Zerby, who is crazy enough to be able to even put this one out of the bag and say, like, bring Moodrick back to the form that we saw Shack the are. If you get him right, and again, I think there's, there's nothing to lose for spurs. If he doesn't work out, you send him back. Set football matches, of course, which the thing is quite a worrying rate, so far. You see a lot of those stories of players who are reunited with certain managers that can take the best out of them and apparently, Zerby really likes him. They have a really good relationship since Shack the, and I think it's fair to say that Moodrick needs a win, Zerby needs a win. They kind of need to take the best out of each other. So... How long before he can play though and play regularly?

And suppose only you have a game a week, so it's a bit... But we saw, and I know it's different and Pogba is older and Pogba was injury prone and everything you want. But Pogba, after the ban, really struggled just to get to match fit, and he was fit, but not match fit to play at this kind of level. So... As you mentioned, Spurs needing a win. They're away at nodding on Forest Nick this weekend. They've had a miserable time going to the city ground of late Spurs. Forest, well, yeah, sometimes. Well, they've won, Forest won the last four meetings, with Spurs there, so... Yeah. And Forest have been quite good against Liverpool, quite bad. The previous week against Leeds signed Liam Delap, who was quite low down on Tim Spears' transfer... Oh, he has a win. I wonder why. Maybe the prize? Let me think. The prize and the stat that he's got more yellow cards than goals in his professional career is a... But Chelsea, that's the thing.

Yeah. Go to Chelsea. Again, it's similar to the blabber thing, Forest, hoping that they're signing the previous season's version of Leeds, rather than the last season. Well, it could be a good fit. I agree with Nick, though, on the price is silly. How much was the price? 50 million. Four. How can a player get more value? Yes. And his price increases after the season that he had with more yellow than goals. But the way out we're thinking to be a Forest Apologist here, the kind of price that he went to Chelsea for was... Maybe slightly false, because it was a release clause. Yeah, yeah. So... So, but is he still... Is he a 50 million-bound player? No, probably not. But he is... He does... I think the theory is that he's a kind of... slightly younger, more mobile version of Chris Woods. Yeah, yeah. Which, and there is a certain amount of logic to it, he doesn't... I mean, he's stupid as it might sound. He doesn't even necessarily need to score that many goals. He just kind of facilitates the other... Right, which he did last weekend. Which he did last weekend with the quick throw. And obviously Morgan, he was white scored with a load of goals

at the end of last season from a sort of similar position. Dan and Doye looks much more comfortable. We kind of in one of those ten roles rather than out wide. So, yeah, even if that's continued to pick up more yellow cards than goals, then he might be some kind of success. All right, then. So, Forest against Spurs who are, of course, without any points or any goals scored. So, far this season, the Newcastle Bournemouths, too. Yeah. First of all, can you tell us about Matthias Fernandez-Pardo who Newcastle signed while shipping Nick Vultemordio to Trind, joined Juventus? Yeah. Yeah, 60 million euros. What's that? That's 50 million pounds? 51, yeah, 51. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From Lille. Yeah. What are they getting? I think it's a small signing. I think they overpaid a little bit maybe, because Lille didn't want to sell. That was not part of the Summer Plans for Lille, which was bloody. The main one, really. The annual big sale of the Summer, we had Euro,

and we had Jakite, for example, and others, then we had Baudi. So, the idea was to keep Fernandez-Pardo for another year, and then he would be the big sale the following Summer. But he really wanted to move, he kind of refused to play, a friendly, didn't want to train, pretend it, yeah. So, I guess to fall to the Newcastle get a player, right? No, but I think, yes and no. I can see, you know, where he really wants to move. He felt it was the right time for him to move, although Lille and the Champions League, for example, so he would have had Champions League football, he would have been a guaranteed starter for them, but anyway. But it's a small signing because I think he fits so perfectly, what he has lost, football, philosophy is. Right. He has that incredible pace. He can play out wide, but now they moved him at Lille in the 9, where I think he could have a bit of those kind of wingers who became number 9, because he's smart, he runs out good, he's good technically. He was a prodigy in Belgium when he was younger, went to the Lille Academy, didn't really find his place there, went back to Belgium to play, then Lille bought him back,

and then the boy in back for 12 million euros and sold him for 60, so. It's one of those again, great things, but for me, he fits perfectly, and when you think about Yashler and his start of football, and you've got Elanga and Wissa and Ursula and Fernandes Pardo and Barnes, it's just all Enrico Gonzalez in the quarterback world of, like, hey, you ready to run? I'm going to throw the ball at you, it's perfect, and I'm not an eco fan, and I think he likes mobility for when they don't have the ball. Right. But in possession in the games where they can use all-dying transition, I think they would be perfect, and that's why I like to lock the transfer windows because they lost a lot, but they gained great talent too. Yashler's philosophy, very briefly, how would you define it? Redwood football, overlapping full bags, a lot of verticality transitions, they will struggle in games where they have 60% of the ball when they play against the low block at her city, or those kind of teams. That's another, that's for him to work out what to do, but when they have space like a spurs, like against Liverpool, even at home, and I expect in this game too,

although this is a German derby, and I think Marco Roser would have a plan, probably, against that. Marco Roser is also a red bull guy, to be fair. So this would be fun, that's why I picked this game. Yeah, I think this is great to watch. And if you know Enrico, so fun, I think you should be excited. Anything else about this game that excites you, Joe? I want to see Bournemouth, I'm not too sure about Bournemouth, but what I like about Bournemouth is the stability there, because apart from Antonio Silva, the rest is very much the same team. In Marco Roser, you get a guy that has a lot of similarities with Eruola, and I think this should work, but I was a little bit underwhelmed by what I saw in the first two games. So for me, this is a big game for them to go to San James's Barbarale. Keep considering late goals as well. Yeah, there's... It's only two games, but, you know, if they're considered after 84 minutes and then 91 in two games, so it could be a theme. They brought in Micheli Diggregorio from... Oh, yeah. Yeah, which was... Surprisingly. Surprising. I was a bit confused with that transfer, because I understand they want European experience, maybe.

But at the same time, I didn't really see Petrovicis, you know, one of the weak links of the team. Actually, the previous game against Everton, he did. He made a few really good saves. Right. He's a solid goalkeeper, you know? But I was... I was surprised with it. Diggregorio had a bit of a stinker of a season last summer. Yeah. Especially the second half of this season, right? Yeah. Let's get on some of the other fixtures coming up, and they're not all Premier League, and the British game next. Guessing is for game shows, not your business. Workday is the Enterprise AI platform for HR, finance, and IT, with AI grounded in your context to get work done and done right. It's a new workday. Chiching, that's the sound of Lowe's Labor Day savings. Get up to 45% off, select major appliances, and save up to an additional $100 on select laundry pairs. Plus, get three bags of MiracleGrow.75 cubic foot garden soil

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Switch level pools. Switch Liverpool, thank you so much. You've got London City Lionesses against Manchester United in WSL. London City Lionesses is one of the big spenders, of course, looking to disrupt the big three in WSL. Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, the Champions. Champions Man City, face Birmingham City on Sunday. Chelsea are up against Aston Villa on Saturday, and you expanded WSL up to 14 teams now. I'm so intrigued to watch Puteja's play here. You've got Ballon Dough in England. People, I hope people go and watch her everywhere on TV in the stadium. You don't even ballon dough, even from a league, men from a league. Ballon dough. So, I really hope people make the most of AXA Puteja's what she's here because she's wonderful. She's with the London City Lionesses, along with seven other new players, Michelle Cain continues to back that ambitious project. We'll see how that gets underway on Friday evening.

Now, Nick, as you mentioned, it's Ibswich Liverpool, which we've already discussed on Friday night in the Premier League, games which we haven't touched on yet, include Harlaston Villa, Brighton Leeds, Brentford, Sunland and Fullham Crystal Palace. Natalie's here to say worrying things. I'm about to get ready. About the cottages. How bad do you think it's going to get, Natalie? No, I was feeling very positive about them after the first game, after the Chelsea game. I think everyone was surprised in a way because it's such a different style of play that Arbeloa wants to implement. But then I came into the Fullham Sunderland game because I covered that match thinking, oh my god, I want to see all this excitement. And even pre-match, I was asking Arbeloa about, how risky, how do you calculate the risks with your brand of football? There were no risks. OK. No, it was all very flat lacking, energy lacking ideas. I could save Josh King because he was the player

trying to create different things. And now Fullham, they have two losses in the first two games. Crystal Palace is the same. And they both have new managers. But with Fullham, especially, if you're trying to implement such a specific demanding style of football, you need the results because otherwise, players won't buy into it. And fans will be very suspicious about it. They had Marcos Silva for so long and they knew what to expect from Fullham with Marcos Silva. So it is a big game for both teams, even though it's just the third game. I think due to the circumstances, it's very important for both teams. Portant for both managers. Is it already whoever loses this could be teaching towards the brand? Be under pressure for sure. Yeah, Fullham also lost half their goals from last season, Royal Humanizan, Harry Wilson, both gone for, I think just under half their goals. So... Yeah, and to be fair, Contal Garcia had a good start, but still, we'll see. But still.

I feel for Franston-Wythe Palace because... Yes, I'm sure. I think it was very exciting coming into it. And I think, although the last day of the transfer window, kind of the mist on the mist on for Final, but Ozzolio, I think, could be a really good signing for them. I know who we know from Syria, although it's weird deal because it's a Chelsea player, but not really a Chelsea player, it's on loan to Palace, but it's not really... Anyway, I think could be a really smart signing too. So he's quite got better, but there was a time where he thought, I've got no new signings. I will lose his Mila Saks. There was a point where I think they were convinced they will lose his Mila Saks. I still have Jean-Philippe Matetta, who we all love, you know, boom, boom, Matetta. But he's still there and he doesn't really want to be there. And you saw him last time for 50 million, who is there thinking I'm going to be the starter, but he's not the starter. And when he plays, he looks completely disinterested. And if your PSS, you were so excited, he was your dream to come to England and the Premier League. And then, so I hope, and I'm really hope that that is right. I'm hoping Sturmwai's got a win in this game,

which increased the pressure on Arbelo. I'm sorry for them fans, but I want my PSS to do well. Okay. I hope this is the turning point for Palace. I see. Malik Fafana was the player that Palace tried to hijack a deal for flying a private jet down to Leon Airport. I'm guessing. Born. But Sunderland had theirs there. That's right. What atmosphere must have been like between those two kind of flight crews, you think? If you're Palace and you send your private jet, you think like we have to send a better private jet than Sunderland. I don't know. Because if you're like Fafana, you walk on the tarmac, right? And you see this crappy 1970 private jet that you don't want to get in. And on the other hand, when you flashy private jet for Sunderland, you think like, yeah, I fancy this one more than this. Do private jets show in the track my flight? Yes, they do. Yes, yes, yes. And you know, you opened the... I don't know if you've been... I've never been in a private jet. I've never been in a private jet. I'm lighting us, please. You know, I like that. But you opened the...

So the little stairs open from like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen that. But you can see inside. So that's what I mean. Maybe Mali Funa was like right to left. Let me see inside. Oh, no. That crew doesn't look great. Oh, that crew looks bad. Oh, inside is maybe, you know, it looked more comfy, I don't know. Because there was a point where he was not sure really what to do. And in the end, he... Can we name the agency now? He... Please turn to him, yeah? He is with Rock Nation. Right. Who... I've been really active over him in the summer. Although if Leonna qualified for the Champions League, I think they would have taken that money from the Champions League, the guaranteed 25 million or so and kept him for the season. But once they were knocked out by Fenerbahce, they had to, they increased the highest value in the squads. But Rock Nation has, for example, employed his uncle, who is a very influential figure for Mali Fufuna, like a second dad if you want. He's part of the Rock Nation agency as an agent. And he was very much driving these deals. And there's a point where I think Mali Fufuna was really...

I don't know where to go here, Alas or Sunderland. And let's say that... The agency and the uncle helped massively on where destination to pick. OK. And what have Sunderland got then? Why were two clubs willing to send private jets down for Mali Fufuna? Stability. He's a wonderful talent. And he's young. And he had a really bad ankle injury this time last year, more or less. And the numbers, if you're a Sunderland fan and you look at the numbers and you think, you know, that's not many goals on the system. Which I understand, it needs to improve on that. But the ceiling is so, so, so high. And I really thought he was going to pick Palace because PSA's coach Tim Allion, they have a great relationship. And he's telling the Regis Le Brice was clearly very convincing. The agency, you know, how can I put it? We're very happy with the deal. They were all for two. Let's put it that way. OK. And I think in the end, he's going to go to Sunderland. But I think there's one to watch because he could really flourish here in England.

OK. Wasn't he also having a one point having a medical, but he didn't know what club he was having a medical for? But they did a joint medical training. So, you're an organiser, which I think is a smart idea to do. Right. It's like, you gain time by doing that. And you're an organiser, the medical. What was funny at some point, he had the two managers kind of trying to call him in a way. So, like, one phone was BSage, another phone was Le Brice. And yeah. So, let's see. I hope he does. So difficult when that happens, I find yours. Have you been in his position before? I mean, you know. So, well, be interested. See how he gets on for Sunderland. And how Sunderland, he get on at Brentford, who have impressed so far this season. That's taking place at a three o'clock, as is the other clash of two German managers, which is Brighton against Leeds, Hutzelor against Farker. And all so unsatting, but a little bit later on at T-Time, you got Hal Aston Villa.

One of those two teams has had two victories and two clean sheets. The other one has had two defeats and no goal scored. What's so ever? No shots on target. He shots on target. Thank you. Yes. That's that bad. Yeah. That's a curious way to come into this game. There are only the second Premier League team since 2003, not to have any shots on target in the first two matches. And I'm guessing that date is because that's when people started writing the numbers down. So potentially ever, the other one was Swansea in 2017. Villa did spend £47 million on PSGWinger, Ibrahim and Bai. Yeah. Is it a good buy? It's a good and buy if you don't expect too much just now. He's 18, he's a kid. He wanted to play more in Paris, if fans still on the boy. It's Paris Bon Embrace, so he's very special to my heart. But it's a point where PSGWinger kind of getting ready to buy a barcola replacement, which

they haven't found, so they were looking to January for that. Both for him by, he wanted to play more. His entourage wanted him to play more. And when you want to rise, kind of cause Risenric can say, why is my son not playing more? He's starting thinking, OK, maybe he's better for you if you go somewhere else and just be part of a different project where there would be a proper project for him. Risenric could not take on a project like him by a PSG, there was other things to do. I think Unai Emery can do that. And if the M-Buy project works out, he's a wonderful talent. Really, for his age group, by 18, he's the best in his position. So he can play while, he can play centrally, he's strong, he's quick, he's good technically, the goal is called with San Diego against France and the World Cup, he's the one to go. That's why he's capable of. But he's still so young, that he would need a bit of time, I think. He's not ready to run out to play, to start 25 games in the Premier League for us and Villa, that's not going to happen. He's not ready for that. But there's a great player there in the making. It was an amazing goal, that he's good. How much money is Premier League spent in Liga?

There's some of them. It's bankrolling. Yeah, absolutely. So I think in total, Liga is sold for £1 billion of players, which is incredible, but we need the money, that's what clubs do. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think the Prem spends something like £600 million in Liga or something. In Liga. Yeah, in something crazy later. You are literally our bankers. You are literally our bankers. Incredible. All right, we'll see how it all plays out on match day three. Anything else you want to add about that we can approximate in that way? Just one final thing, because I spoke to Igor Thiago. Did I sit down with him? Yeah. Yeah, last week. And you know how players are usually very political or very well behaved when they talk about individual prizes? When I spoke to him about the Golden Boot, then how much he thinks about that because he was so close with Holland and it's so hard to keep up with Holland, he was like, I am sure I'm going to get the Golden Boot eventually.

I know it on the inside and it is a goal for me. So I always find it refreshing when players are more open about what they really want, especially when you're facing Holland in the run of the Golden Boot. Absolutely. It starts in so many seasons, you go Thiago, zero goal into games. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Didn't we miss Jules? I'm sorry, go out of here. Jules couldn't help himself after two minutes of conversation with me to mention Brazil in the World Cup. Yeah. You know, a post-war cup, I just wanted to know how you were feeling about missing out again. Well, instead of getting six put past them by England. Can't you be teaming or meaningful? I mean, at least you'd be better than Italy. Well, once you didn't. Wow. Well, we can sit here all day and ban for about the World Cup, but you've got places to be.

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