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March 30th, 2026 - We welcome back Mike Koeniger to discuss Cardinal Pizzaballa being blocked in Jerusalem and why this might have been a great move for Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Then, we discuss the deeper meaning and hidden secrets of Jesus' triumphal entry into Jerusalem.
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Praise be to Jesus Christ. Welcome back to a Catholic take.
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I'm your host, Joe McLean. Praise be to God.
Good afternoon and welcome and happy holy week to you.
Are you ready for Good Friday?
You don't get to Easter Sunday morning glory
unless you go through Good Friday, Passion Death and the rest.
First, we're going to be talking a lot about that this week.
In fact, of course, yesterday Cardinal Peace of Bala
was turned away, rejected from entering the Holy Sepulcher
in Jerusalem by the local authorities.
An incident that caused such a backlash that even Mike Huckabee
had to come out and publicly criticize it.
He never met an Israeli action. He didn't absolutely love.
So for him to criticize Israel, college you is.
This must have been a big deal.
In fact, Pope Leo calls the ambassador to the Vatican
from Israel to give an account.
France, Italy did the same thing.
Even BB Net and Yahoo came out on Cardinal Peace of Bala side.
It was a big international pushback against the state of Israel
for blocking Christians from going to the Holy Sepulcher.
Even though the Jews were still allowed to gather 50 or 50 or less, sure.
But Cardinal Peace of Bala was just with a tiny little group of some priests
and he was rejected.
But the deal that was made, the deal that was made,
might actually be a silver lining.
It might actually be an answer to prayer.
Could it be that his Eminence Cardinal Peace of Bala
was playing for D. Chess? Was this strategy?
We're going to talk about that if 14 passed the hour
with my Konaugher friend of the show.
Also today, we're going to go a blast to the past.
In fact, we're going all the way back to 2012.
Back when I was young, good looking, great skin, full head of hair,
apparently, back in those days.
I'm pulling out a video from the archive from my radio show in 2012,
where I did a deep dive on the deeper implications of Jesus' triumphant entry into the Holy City.
Hosanna in the highest.
We're going to dive deep today, part one.
Tomorrow, part two, we're going to dive deep into the hidden secrets
of what was really happening when Jesus rides that donkey into Jerusalem.
I hope you can join us at 30 past the hour for that.
It's going to be a great show.
You're going to get a lot out of it, at least I'm praying you do.
And I would be grateful if you would share us with a friend
and be a part of the conversation.
Go to thestationofthecross.com forward slash ACT,
where you can get the show notes, watch the livestream,
get the podcast sign up for the email list, and so, so much more.
Thestationofthecross.com forward slash ACT.
Let's get after it.
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen.
Remember, almost gracious Virgin Mary that never was it known,
that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help,
or sought thine intercession, was left unadded.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee,
a virgin of virgin's, my mother, to thee do I come before thee,
I stand sinful and sorrowful, a mother of the word incarnate,
despised not my petitions, but in thy mercy here, and answer me, Amen.
And the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,
and now your saint of the day.
St. John Climicus pray for us.
John was born most likely in Syria around the year 525,
though some scholars place his life a little later.
From a young age he was known as the Scholastic.
At 16, however, he rejected any career as a scholar and left for Mount Sinai,
where he studied under a wise monk named Martyrius.
When Martyrius died, John withdrew to a hermitage at the foot of Mount Sinai,
where he lived for many years studying the faith and the lives of the saints.
During this time, he only ventured forth on Saturdays and Sundays
to assist at the Holy Liturgy.
At the age of 75, John was unanimously chosen as the next abbot of Mount Sinai,
which made him the superior of all monks in the region.
Pope St. Gregory the Great himself sent donations of money and household items
to support the monks in pilgrims.
Few of John's many writings have survived,
but among them is the famed Ladder of Divine Ascent,
originally written at the request of a fellow abbot.
From this work comes John's surname Climicus, meaning of the Ladder.
John died in the year of our Lord, 605,
soon after resigning his office of abbot,
having governed Mount Sinai for about four years.
For more about the saints and seasons of the Catholic Church,
visit thestationofthecross.com,
forward slash saints and seasons.
St. John Climicus, pray for us.
And now your headline news.
Ground news reports Spain closes its airspace to the United States.
Spain is closed its airspace to the U.S. planes,
involved in the attack on Iran,
expanding its earlier refusal to allow for jointly operated military bases
to be used in the cause.
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez opposes the U.S.
in Israeli attacks on Iran, calling them reckless and illegal.
The Vatican reports Pope Leo says,
do not use God to justify war.
In a forceful homily during Palm Sunday Mass yesterday,
Pope Leo the 14th stated,
Jesus is the king of peace, who rejects war,
whom no one can use to justify war.
Close quote, the Holy Father warned that God,
quote, does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war,
but rejects them, citing the words of the prophet Isaiah saying,
quote, even though you make many prayers,
I will not listen.
Your hands are full of blood.
Close quote, the Associated Press reports,
major U.S. airports return to normal STSA workers get paid.
Security wait times at major airports began easing
as tens of thousands of transportation security administration employees
started receiving back pay after more than a month without paychecks.
Security lines in New York area airports fell under 30 minutes today,
while Houston's George Bush International reported wait times
of about 75 minutes far lower than the hour's long queues
from previous weeks,
despite the easing lines about 500 employees have quit
since the partial government shutdown began.
And those are your headline news.
The Gospel today comes to us from John chapter 12
versus one through nine in the 1962 missile.
Jesus, therefore, six days before the POSC,
came to Bethania, where Lazarus was raised from the dead.
And they made him a supper there,
and Martha served, but Lazarus was not,
but Lazarus was one of them that were at table with him.
Mary therefore took a pound of ointment of right,
spike-nard, of great pricing,
anointed the feet of Jesus,
and wiped his feet with her hair,
and the house was filled with the odor of ointment.
Then one of his disciples, Judas,
is scary at he that was about to betray Jesus, said.
Why was not this ointment sold for 300 pence,
and given to the poor?
Now, he said this not because he cared for the poor,
but because he was a thief,
and having the purse carried the things that were put therein.
Jesus, therefore, said,
let her alone,
that she may keep it against the day of my burial.
For the poor, you have always with you,
but me, you have not always.
A great multitude, therefore, of the Jews,
knew that he was there,
and they came not for Jesus's sake only,
but that they might see Lazarus,
whom he had raised from the dead.
The chief priest thought to kill Lazarus also,
because many of the Jews, by reason of him,
went away and believed in Jesus,
the gospel of the Lord.
Laus, TB Christy, symbolically,
the gloss says God made all things in six days.
On the sixth, he made man.
In the sixth age of the world,
he will to redeem him.
He suffered on the sixth day of the week,
and died at the sixth hour.
That by his presence, Cornelius goes on to say,
he might revive the memory of this miracle,
and arouse the people to attend him,
on his solemn entry into Jerusalem,
and shout,
Hosanna.
Morally speaking,
he learned that the good works
with which we anoint Christ,
ought to be quite free from fault,
and of the very best kind.
Do we give God our best?
I'll cue and explain mystically,
the head is the loftiness of the Godhead,
the feet, the humility of the incarnation,
or the head is Christ, the feet, the poor,
who are his members.
We anoint them with,
we anoint them when we give them alms.
But why did Jesus entrust to him,
Judas, the bag, knowing him to be a thief?
I answer,
because Judas was more qualified
than the other apostles to make purchases,
and he allowed the theft,
because the opportunity was furnished thereby
for the betrayal and the death,
which he courted against St. Augustine says,
because the church would afterwards have its coffers.
He admitted thieves,
in order that his church might tolerate powerful thieves,
even when suffering from them,
to teach us that the wicked must be tolerated
for fear of dividing the body of Christ.
Do thou the good bear with the evil,
that thou mayest attain to the reward of the good?
St. Christ's demands,
the Lord committed the bags to a thief in order
to cut off any excuse from betraying him,
that it might not seem as if he had betrayed him
from want of money.
The applicant would say,
some maintained that as the least of the apostles,
he undertook the management of the money.
Why does God tolerate Judas in his midst?
The long suffering,
to suffer and tolerate the evil,
even from within the body of Christ,
is for a coming of the day of judgment.
When the good will be ushered into heaven
for all eternity,
never to suffer again,
even at the hands of Judas,
the walls and sheep's clothing will be gathered together,
and they will be bound,
and they will be put into the fire of hell
for all eternity to be entornment.
But in order to save as many souls as possible,
Jesus suffers even the evil in his own court.
We'll be back in two minutes.
Praise be to Jesus Christ.
Welcome back to a Catholic take a bold synthesis
of information and inspiration
of your host, Joe McLean, Praise be to God.
It's good to be on with you.
Coming up at 30 past the hour,
I'm going to play for you a clip going back to 2012,
quite arguably the most handsome guy
and Catholic radio at the time.
Joe McLean smooth skin, full head of hair.
Good looking dude.
I'm going to play a clip,
two part series today, part one,
the hidden secrets of Jesus' triumphant entry into Jerusalem.
We're going to dive deep over today and tomorrow.
And it's a blast from the past, from my past anyway,
back when I was young anyway.
And I think you're going to get a lot out of it.
It's a joyous for that.
But yesterday was kind of a big deal in the Holy Land
as Cardinal Peace of Bala was blocked by Israeli authorities,
by police from a private ceremony.
We just a handful of people under the 50 person limit
that they require.
He was blocked from the Holy Sepulcher.
And it became such a big deal
even BB Netanyahu came out in his defense.
Let's add sink in for a second.
Joining us to talk about it all,
is good for any of the show, Mike Conegger.
Mike Good afternoon. Thanks for being on the team.
Hey Joe, welcome from a very noisy
and wonderful Charles and South Carolina,
which is where I am right now.
It's good to be here on the air with you.
I told, I said before I jumped on,
it's one of those days where you spilled a couple water
on your laptop.
It's obviously didn't want us to talk about this
because everything that could have gone wrong did.
But I'm here.
And the day is beautiful, and I'm glad to be here.
And by the way, Joe, I saw this story yesterday
when I got up, because obviously they're
about $78 ahead of us.
And my head exploded.
I tried to say off technology on Sunday,
but I saw this story and my head exploded.
And I was outraged because it's two different standards, Joe.
You know, because you've done the research
that there have been prayers done at the wall
since this ban happened.
There have been small groups that have gone to the wall
and prayed.
And it seems to only be holy mother church
that seems beginning.
Well, let's put it in different,
or not Jewish religions are being held to a different standard.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And there was also some very,
according to some reports,
his eminence was actually being followed.
He was not a private car.
He was being followed by the authorities.
Why would they be following him around?
Hmm.
Interesting.
But yeah, he's not allowed with a handful.
I think it was like less than 10 people.
But yet groups of 50 can go to the prayer wall.
That seems a little strange to me.
But nonetheless, this became such an major
and international incident.
Pope Leo recalled the Israeli ambassador to Vatican.
France and Italy did the same thing.
Even my cock-a-bee, who never met an Israeli action
he didn't endorse or love.
Apparently, even he has come out against
and it was critical saying,
quote, the action today by the Israel National Police
is an unfortunate overreach,
already having major repercussions
around the world, close quote.
And it's led to a reversal of sorts, didn't it?
It did.
And now,
Carl has been granted permission.
And yes, I'm being a little sarcastic here, Joe,
to go to his church and celebrate mass.
And thankfully,
my cock-a-bee's reaction was also disappointing.
I mean, it was way short of maybe a mild angry fist.
And I found that to be disturbing as well.
I would have really liked to have heard my cock-a-bee come out
with a much stronger word of statement
about the repression of Christians in the Holy Land.
And now, the Israeli defense force attacking
one of the leading religious figures globally.
But of course, that didn't happen, that it didn't too.
So, I thought his reaction was underwhelming.
I was much more pleased with the reaction
of the Italian government, so to speak, than our own.
I think we should recall my cock-a-bee quite honestly.
I think that was said very strongly.
It is not going to happen.
But I agree with you.
I think it'd be nice to see somebody
with a little bit more stronger stance against what we say
are issues in the Israeli governance of that country
and its people.
Now, one thing is, for sure, I'm going to link...
I'm linking to a lot of stuff today.
Articles from the pillar, for instance,
and some video clips of his Eminence part,
Cardinal Pizabala, explaining what happened directly,
so you can hear it from him directly here.
But he says that it wasn't like a really contention...
There wasn't a lot of contention here.
These authorities that stopped him,
they weren't like mean to him,
they were plenty cordial or whatever,
which is great.
There's no need for it to be contentious.
He's not that kind of a guy.
But nonetheless, we've talked about the hypocrisy in this.
However, I have a theory,
and I want you to entertain this theory for a second.
I think his Eminence was playing a wee bit of 4D chess here,
and I want to get your take on it,
because they've locked down these holy sites,
claiming that Iran has been targeting the holy sites.
I don't think know that that's ever been proven.
There were parts of an Iranian missile
that had been intercepted by the dome
or whatever they're calling their defense system,
so it was shot out of the sky,
and it's debris fell from the sky,
and parts of it fell near the Church of the Holy Supplicer.
But I don't know that it's ever been proven.
I don't know that the United States has said it or not,
that Iran has been targeting these holy sites.
So there's issue number one for me,
and it's really used that one moment
with that one missile with its parts falling
after having been shot from the sky,
to say we have to close down all these spots.
They were going to block Mike.
They were going to block Good Friday.
They were going to block Easter Sunday.
They weren't going to allow Christians
in these holy sites on the highest feast day of the calendar.
I think his Eminence Cardinal Pisa Balas moved yesterday
to be blocked on Palm Sunday
and to raise this to an international crisis
has now opened the way for a Good Friday
and an Easter Sunday in these holy sites.
What would you say to that?
Well, I think you're absolutely right.
I think he got it out of the way early.
He got permission to come in.
Maybe he didn't want to say this,
35 minutes in gospel yesterday.
I don't know.
But by the way, with a five-year-old,
that's a rough gospel.
But yeah, I think you're right.
I think he thought he'd strike or at least strike hot
and then get permission for the rest of the Holy Week,
which obviously Good Friday
and the highest holy day of the entire year
Easter Sunday, the day of the resurrection of our Blessed Glory
is the most important holiday.
Now we know those things are going to happen.
Now, how many people the IDF let's go to Mass
and the Holy Sepulchrist of the Holy Sepulchrist
will see.
I concur.
I doubt, seriously, Joe,
and I'm going to say this,
and people are going to hate me for saying it.
I doubt, seriously,
a wrong would be so stupid
as to intentionally target the Church of the Holy Sepulchrist
or any other Holy site in Old City, Jerusalem,
simply because it would raise the eye of the entire world,
even non-righteous,
it would be outraged by that.
So that's not saying that their defense,
their missile systems are well developed.
They may be very primitive
and they may not have the control they think they have.
So that is the possibility,
but there's no way that a wrong would
intentionally target that church.
There would be a,
there would be a,
what crusader we are now,
9th, 10th,
there would be a 9th or 10th crusader in that point.
Stop, stop.
I wish.
You and I both know there's no Christian princes
to call upon anymore to come to the rescue
of Christian suffering in the Holy Land.
So even if Pope Leo wanted to do it,
I just don't see it happening,
but yeah, again, I don't know of any,
I don't know of any official reportage that says
Iran was targeting Holy Sites,
but Israel maintains that's the point.
They also say that there's no,
that there are no shelters in the,
in the old Holy Sites with which people could go to
if there were missile attacks.
Of course, his Eminence Cardinal Pisa Bala,
he was trying to respect those guidelines
by taking a tiny little group
and for a short,
you know, sort of a,
a truncated private ceremony,
and they only wanted to stream it.
But now, thanks to all of this,
thanks to Herzog,
and in his official statement,
and I'm linking to both the statement that he issued
from the Latin Patriarchative Jerusalem prior to,
to the change.
So the one yesterday and the one today,
I'm linking to both in the show notes today.
He specifically mentions Mr. Isaac Herzog,
president of the state of Israel,
thanking him for his prompt attention
and valued intervention.
We also extend our appreciation to the heads of the state
and officials who acted swiftly
to convey their firm positions,
many of whom personally reached
out to express their closeness and support.
So now, as a result,
they will be having ceremonies
and being able to stream it to Christians throughout the region.
So this seems like in the end,
not I could complete victory,
but it seems like he outsmarted,
he outsmarted those hard or hard,
hard core or right wingers,
so to speak, just to use some sort of description.
It seemed to run the Knesset
and seemed to run the halls of governance in Israel today.
Oh, you're absolutely right.
And listen,
Carton of Pizza Ballot was my favorite
before the pay for elections.
As you know, we talked about this on the air.
I'm a big fan of his.
I think he's brilliant.
I think he's probably a moderate.
I wouldn't call him a conservative.
Maybe on the conservative side of a moderate,
but he's a big proponent for peace.
He's a rational solution in the Holy Land
to the conflict going on in the Middle East, Joe.
I'm a huge fan.
And there is no doubt that he has the brilliance
of a book, Benedict,
or any man of that intellectual elk,
no doubt in my mind that he's quite bright.
So I think your theory is,
I would, you know, you saw him.
He's trokin my beard, which gives me 10 extra IQ points.
I think you're probably right.
And so anyway,
yeah, and by the way,
sacrificing one palm Sunday mass
or a tragedy and something that angered me a great deal,
he's going to get good Friday.
He's going to get Easter Sunday.
He's going to have his middle mass offshore.
He won.
He won.
This is winning the Super Bowl 21 to 18.
He still won.
Right?
Now he got the thing.
Was it just me or did you have like eerie flashbacks
to 2020 in the 14 days to slow the spread
because the streets of Jerusalem were empty on Palm Sunday?
And that is a tragedy.
I think, I don't know,
I think my palms are beginning to sweat having
a bad memory of those bad old days.
Well, Joe, between that
and the $6 gallon diesel fuel
that we're paying right now,
and in the southern states,
I can't imagine what it is up north.
And, you know, we have to second up,
Buttercup as our president said,
and all that stuff.
So, in the last days,
I'm already having those flashbacks,
and I don't suspect that the idea
is going to get more lenient as time goes on.
I'm not a betting man.
I don't gamble, Joe,
but I would bet you one ice cold cola
that you and I would accept,
which would be, I guess, severe
because we don't do carbs.
I would bet you one ice cold cola
that gets much more stringent before it eases up at all.
And I know you're not going to take that bet
because that's the suckers bet.
What do you think about Pope Leo's pretty,
you know, sledgehammer statement
against Pete Hegseth, the United States,
and Just War Theory and all the rest?
Hey, as a great congressman
from the Great Republic of Texas
once said, truth is,
treason in the empire of lies.
Pope Leo was dead on right.
There is something to be said
for waging what he obviously sees
as an unjust war.
And I had argued
if you recall a few weeks ago
that this is indeed an unjust war
and many very conservative Catholics
called me wrong.
But apparently, the Pope and I agree on this.
So I heated up and saw what me, Joe.
I'm sorry. I hate to do that.
I was going to ask, did he call you?
Do you guys have a good chat?
Or, I mean, he doesn't take my calls.
Perhaps you can put in a good word for him yet.
I'd love a quick chat with a guy.
I wish I had that insight
and I think Pope Leo's statement.
I wish here's the truth.
I read his, I read a Huckabee.
I said, why can't
Ambassador Huckabee
at least read the Pope's
and kind of echo what the Pope had said.
So yeah, but of course
it's not going to happen.
So yeah, I'm not going to have the Pope's statement.
I was pleased with the Pope's statement.
He said what needed to be said
and now there's no question
that the BBC sees this as an unjust war.
So, Mike Conegger, thanks for being on the team.
Enjoy your, I guess you're on vacation.
Live in the good life.
Live in La Vita Loka.
And the Caroline as brother.
God bless you, man.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
But we're going to go to a two-minute radio break.
We're going to come back.
And then it's time for a blast from the past.
I'm going to share with you part one
of a clip as a deeper dive into the significance
of Jesus' triumphant entry into Jerusalem.
The hidden secrets
that you probably aren't going to hear in the
most of the homilies you hear at church today.
Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.
Praise be to Jesus Christ.
Welcome back to a Catholic take a bold synthesis of information
and inspiration of your host, Joe McLeod.
Praise be to God. It's good to be on with you.
Don't forget, I'm going to Spain and Portugal
following in the footsteps of our Lady of Pilar.
A bi-location event to St. James.
While our Lady was living with the Apostle John.
We're going to go there.
Our Lady of Guadalupe starts in Spain.
We're going to go there.
We're going to go to our Lady Fatima.
And so, so much more.
It's this November the 9th through the 21st.
It's a traditional Latin mass pilgrimage.
So TLM's every day. Confession.
And so, so much more.
Father Jal Rivera, Luis Ramon and myself.
We've selected international tours.
I'm going to put a link to this in the show notes for you at the top of the hour.
The station of the cross.com forward slash ACT.
But we would love to have you on the trip as well.
Do check it out and come along for the right.
But we're going to go into a blast from my past.
2012. How old were you in 2012?
I mean, good grief. I was a good looking young man apparently back in 2012.
The skin of a baby's bottom.
It's so soft ahead.
Full of hair apparently.
But that's not why I'm going to do this.
It's a two-parter. Today's part one.
Tomorrow's part two. A deeper dive into the triumphal entry of our Savior Jesus Christ in Jerusalem.
The hidden secrets that you probably aren't going to hear in your regular homily.
This is going to be great stuff. It's typology.
You're going to get a lot out of it.
Grab your Bible. Have a listen.
If you miss some, check out the podcast and get caught up.
But sit back and relax. Now listen to this.
The new Solomon and the new priesthood.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church Paragraph 559 says,
quote,
How will Jerusalem welcome her Messiah?
Although Jesus had always refused popular attempts to make him king,
He chooses the time and prepares the details for his Messianic entry into the city of his father, David.
Acclaimed as son of David and as one who brings salvation,
Hosanna means saves or gives salvation.
The king of glory enters his city, riding on an ass.
Jesus conquers the daughter of Zion, a figure of his church,
neither by ruse nor by violence, but by the humility that bears witness to the truth.
Now we're going to stop there. The paragraph goes on.
But I want to get into St. Matthew's Gospel, chapter 21,
verses 1-13 and this account of Jesus coming in as a victorious king into the city of David.
Quote, verse 1, quote,
And when they drew near to Jerusalem and came to Beth Page to the Mount of Olives,
then Jesus sent two disciples saying to them,
Go into the village opposite you and immediately you will find an ass tied and a cult with her.
Untie them and bring them to me.
And if anyone says anything to you, you shall say,
The Lord has need of them and he shall send them immediately.
This took place to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet saying,
Quote, tell the daughter of Zion, behold,
Your king is coming to you humble and mounted on an ass on a cult, the fowl of an ass.
Verse 6,
The disciples went and did as Jesus had directed them.
They brought the ass and the cult and put their garments on them.
And he sat thereon.
Most of the crowds spread their garments on the road and others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road.
And the crowds that were went before him and that followed him shouted,
Hosanna to the son of David.
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, Hosanna and the highest.
And when he entered Jerusalem, all the city was stirred, saying,
Who is this?
And the crowd said,
This is the prophet Jesus from Nazareth of Galilee.
And Jesus entered the temple of God and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple.
And he overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons.
And he said to them,
It is written,
My house shall be called a house of prayer,
But you make it a den of robbers, unquote.
Okay, there are so many things going on here.
I produced a podcast a few years ago on this.
And I referenced this in the show notes at Catholicac.com because I spend a little more time on it there.
But I'm going to break this episode up in two parts this week and next week,
next week will be Palm Sunday as we approach the Holy Week, right?
Well, I want to talk about the new Solomon and pick out the parts of that passage we just read,
which will resonate from the catechism paragraph 559 that we read,
and show you how Jesus is being depicted here as the new son of David,
which the very crowd picks up on and proclaims him to be, right?
But also, there is a new priesthood coming.
He has come to bring us a new priesthood and is bound in this episode.
So let's look at it.
Let's take a look at the elements here.
You see Jesus being seated on a donkey, right?
A special donkey is brought, a cult, a foul of an ass.
They are in verse 7.
And he's put on this donkey by his disciples, again, verse 7.
And the crowds are cheering him in verse 9.
Garments are being spread on the road for him to pass over on in verse 8.
Palm branches are waved and also placed on the road in verse 8.
And the shouts of Huzanna to the son of David are heard in verse 9.
Jesus is also tested for his wisdom here, like Solomon was.
Now, if you go back to 1 Kings chapter 4 through 10,
you'll see that there was many episodes of King Solomon's wisdom being tested.
You know, he was given that test of the two women with the one baby left over.
And he tries to cut it in half and the real mom comes to say,
no, give it to the other woman so that the baby is spared, right?
So we see other episodes like the Shiva coming out to witness his famous wisdom.
So there's all of these tests of King Solomon's wisdom.
Well, this is perfected in Jesus Christ.
And we see how his wisdom is also tested in Matthew chapter 22 verses 15 through 46.
For instance, the coin, you know, is it right to pay taxes, you know, dear Jesus?
And he says, well, whose image is on that coin?
Well, Caesar's, of course, then render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render under God what is God's, right?
Well, whose image is that on the coin?
It is Caesar's.
And so you give it back to Caesar.
Well, whose image does Caesar bear?
God's.
All men bear the image of God.
And so what must all men even Caesar render themselves back to God?
And so Jesus has a uncanny way of getting out of these tight spots,
these tests that are designed to trap him, to ensnare him, right?
But he always gets out of it.
His wisdom prevails and truly we can say that something greater than Solomon is here,
as we are told in St. Matthew chapter 12 verse 42.
Okay.
So those are the elements that I want to draw upon today.
Now let's compare those to the account of how Solomon entered into Jerusalem.
We're also going to reference how another king, Jehu, over the Israelites, also was anointed king, right?
Let's start with Solomon.
Let's turn back now to 1 Kings chapter 1.
Look at verse 38.
You know what?
Here's what I'm going to do.
Read the account for you and then we'll reference the individual verses.
First Kings chapter 1.
I'm going to start in verse 28 and go through 40.
Quote.
Then David answered.
Call Bashi, but to me.
So she came into the king's presence and stood before the king.
And the king swore saying, as the Lord lives, he who has redeemed my soul out of every adversity.
As I swore to you by the Lord, the God of Israel saying,
Solomon, your son shall reign after me, and he shall sit upon my throne in my stead.
Even so, will I do this day?
Then Bashi babailed with her face to the ground and did obscenes to the king and said,
may my Lord King David live forever?
King David said, call to me, Zadok, the priest, Nathan, the prophet, and Banaya, the son of Jehodaya.
So they came before the king, and the king said to them,
take with you the servants of your Lord and call Solomon my son to ride on my own mule
and bring him down to Gihon.
And let Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet there anoint him king over Israel.
Then blow the trumpet and say, long live King Solomon.
You shall then come up after him, and he shall come and sit upon my throne,
for he shall be king in my stead.
And I have appointed him to be ruler over Israel and over Judea.
And Banaya, the son of Jehodaya, answered the king, amen.
May the Lord, the God of my Lord, the king, say so.
As the Lord has been with my Lord, the king, even so may he be with Solomon,
and make his throne greater than the throne of my Lord King David.
So Zadok the priest, Nathan the prophet, and Banaya, the son of Jehodaya,
and the chetharites and the pellithites went down and call Solomon to ride on King David's mule
and brought him to Gihon.
There Zadok the priest took the horn of oil from the tent and anointed Solomon.
Then they blew the trumpet and all the people said, long live King Solomon.
And all the people went up after him, playing on pipes and rejoicing with great joy
so that the earth was split by their noise.
Okay, so that's the stage that's set now that we can then compare and contrast you.
Now, one other note I'm going to make about that before going into the details
is that Adonizah, Solomon's brother, already proclaimed himself King,
and guess what?
Adonizah had a priest for himself to anoint him King, right?
This was a different priest, not Zadok, not even of the same line as Zadok.
And Adonizah called forth the general of the army and the sons of the kings
and this great pomp and circumstance and rode into Jerusalem with great power.
And authority and might compare and contrast that to Solomon,
writing on a mule with his own priest and prophet, right?
So there is a lot of difference there.
Humility goes a long way.
David, he was the smallest and youngest of all his brothers.
And everybody thought his eldest brother would be the king.
I mean, he looks the part strong and robust and good looking.
David was this scrawny little young man tending sheep,
the lowest position of their society.
And yet he was considered a man after God's own heart, right?
So humility goes a long way with God.
And so Solomon rides into the city, right?
So let's look and compare.
Verse 38, Zadok the priest caused Solomon to sit on David's donkey, right?
The priest put Solomon on the donkey.
Very important.
Verse 40, the crowds shouted and are cheering
and so much of the earth on the splits, right?
How about verse 39?
They shout, long live King Solomon.
So automatically we see many parallels there.
Let's also look at an account of Jehu.
In 2 Kings, chapter 9, verse 1,
Elisha the prophet is called to anoint Jehu.
And so Elisha calls on a junior prophet and says,
go and anoint this Jehu, right?
And make him king over Israel.
And so they do.
In verse 13 of 2 Kings 9,
you read about how the crowd laid their garments on the road for him
to pass over while the trumpet is blown and they shout,
Jehu is king.
Again, very similar to the account of Solomon entering.
But you see how these garments being laid on the road
is a way of honoring this king.
And so we see that with the new son of David, Jesus Christ,
the new and greater Solomon, right?
The crowds laying their garments on the road as he passes by.
The crowds shouting,
Huzanna to the son of David.
Clearly, those people knew exactly what they meant by that.
They knew what they were talking about when they shouted,
Huzanna to the son of David.
They understood what Jesus was doing,
writing on that donkey to them.
It meant something.
But I want to draw your attention back to who puts Solomon on that donkey.
Zadak the priest.
Who put Jesus on the donkey?
His disciples.
Well, if Jesus is the new Solomon in this analogy,
in this comparison, this parallel, this type,
then who is the new Zadak?
The new priest.
But the disciples themselves.
We'll get back to that in a moment.
Another passage from the Old Testament that's being quoted
and brought to bear here is from Psalm 118,
which just happens to be the great Hellele Psalm,
which is sung at the Passover meal,
which Jesus will do in just a few days from now, right?
He will, at the night before he is offered up,
he will prepare this special Passover feast, right?
And there he will sing the great Hellele Psalm,
which will include such verses as the ones we're about to read.
We're going to read Psalm 118 verses,
let's see here, verses 19 through 27,
quote,
open to me the gates of righteousness that I may enter through them
and give thanks to the Lord.
This is the gate of the Lord.
The righteous shall enter through it.
I shall thank thee that thou hast answered me
and has become my salvation.
The stone which the builders rejected
has become the head of the corner.
This is the Lord's doing.
It is marvelous in our eyes.
This is the day which the Lord has made.
Let us rejoice and be glad in it.
Save us or Huzanna.
We will teach the Lord.
O Lord, we bestech thee, give us success.
Blessed be He who enters in the name of the Lord.
We bless you from the house of the Lord.
The Lord is God and He has given us light.
Bind the festival procession with branches
up to the horns of the altar.
We're going to pause there.
This is a video from a broadcast back
and on my radio show back in 2012,
back when I was young and good looking apparently,
in a deeper dive of the significance of Jesus' entry
into Jerusalem, today's part,
one to mark, part two,
the typological significance is important.
That's why we're doing it.
We'll be back in two minutes,
don't go anywhere.
Praise be to Jesus Christ.
Welcome back to a Catholic take,
a bold synthesis of information
and inspiration from your host,
John McLean, praise be to God.
It's good to be on with you.
We were talking earlier in the hour
about what happened yesterday
to Cardinal Pierre Petista,
piece of Bala in Jerusalem,
being blocked from the Holy Sepulcher.
We'll probably pick that subject up again
in the after show,
but I'm just noticing some breaking news.
Bishop Strickland's been on Tucker Carlson's podcast.
That's a huge platform for Bishop Strickland.
So that's quite interesting.
Also, the Knesset in Israel
just passed legislation that now allows them
to hang a Palestinian prisoners
who have been convicted of killing Israelis.
So you can expect to see that in the news very, very soon.
But we're having a conversation,
a deeper dive about the coming of Jesus,
the triumph of entry into Jerusalem.
Back in 2012,
I hosted a radio program called The Hold The Man.
And I did a two-part deep dive
into the typological significance
of what was going on.
It's not just Palm branches,
it's not just Jesus' king.
It is way more significant than that.
Jesus was placed on the donkey
by Peter and his apostles.
That typological significance
is that Peter is a priest
in by doing that action.
Too many Catholics simply don't know
that everything Jesus does during Passion Week,
during his Passion Death and Resurrection,
the Upper Room.
Everything is priestly.
Too often Catholics don't know this.
They see all the many mansions of heaven.
This is priestly language.
The washing of the feet in the Upper Room.
This is priestly language.
And I find that too many Catholics simply don't know these things.
That's why I'm playing this for you, Park One, today.
A deep dive.
And again, tomorrow, the hidden secrets
of the triumphal entry of Jesus.
Now back to our session.
There is so much going on there.
I hope you caught most of that.
But you can see that as this is being coded here
with Jesus' entry into the city on this donkey
with the branches and the people shouting,
Hosanna to the Son of David.
Save us, O Lord.
Verse 25 of Psalm 118.
Hosanna or save us, right?
Verse 26.
Blessed be he who enters in the name of the Lord.
Again, being coded by the crowds there
with Jesus Christ our Lord in Matthew's Gospel.
Verse 27 of Psalm 118.
The Lord is God and He has given us light
buying the festival procession with branches
up to the horns of the altar.
Unquote.
This very passage, this Psalm 118 is sung at the Passover,
which is the institution of the Eucharist, right?
And so the significance of going to the altar
is very important.
Because where does Jesus go when he enters the city?
But into the temple to cleanse it, right?
He goes to the temple, to the horns of the altar.
It's just fascinating stuff.
Also, the light that's being spoken up here in verse 27 of Psalm 118.
Think back to Matthew 5.
The light, right?
Jesus comes to bring the light.
Now here's a question.
If Jesus is being depicted in the comparison,
as I said, as the New Solomon,
and I compare the disciples to Zadak the priest, right?
And basically, in a way, also the prophets,
I want you to think to yourself,
what the significance of that might mean?
Isn't there a chief priest in the temple when Jesus rides in there?
Well, he speaks to them in Matthew 21.
He speaks directly to them by parables, right?
Jesus comes to bring a new priesthood.
Like Zadak anointed Solomon,
there was a different priest who anointed his brother, Adonaija.
That different priest's line was the wrong lineage,
and it didn't pass through in time.
It didn't give us new priests to serve in the temple.
It was Zadak's line that proceeded through history.
And so we see yet another point in time.
Well, we have two sets of priests.
One will go away, and the other will proceed through salvation history.
That's what's going on here, right?
Remember the comparison with the sailors of Jonah and the boat
that we made with Jesus and his sailors slash disciples from Matthew,
chapter 8, verses 23 through 27.
We said that just like those sailors with Jonah
who acted like priests offering sacrifice,
and if Jesus is the new Jonah,
what then is the new disciples, but priests also?
So we see, as I said, two lines of the priests.
In first kings, we have the priest Abbeyfar,
a who anointed Adonaija.
And as I said, Zadak, who anointed Solomon,
it would be Zadak's line that moves forward,
and Adonaija's line that would go away,
or Abbeyfar's line that would go away.
So we see here, two priests.
Now, what I want to point out is in one of the parables
that Jesus speaks to them in Matthew chapter 21,
it becomes very clear that this is going to happen, right?
Let's look at this.
This is the parable of the wine press, right?
Let's, let me get to this part here.
It's Matthew chapter 21, verses 40 through 46.
Here we go.
Quote,
when therefore the owner of the vineyard comes,
what will he do to those tenants?
Now, Jesus was asking the chief priest this very question.
Verse 41, quote,
they said to him,
he will put those wretches to a miserable death,
and let out the vineyard to other tenants,
who will give him the fruits in their seasons.
Jesus said to them,
have you never read in the Scriptures,
the very stone which the builders rejected
has become the head of the corner.
This was the Lord's doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
Therefore I tell you,
the kingdom of God will be taken away from you
and given to a nation producing fruit of it.
When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parable,
they perceived he was speaking about them.
But when they tried to arrest him,
they feared the multitudes
because they held him to be a prophet.
That's powerful.
He's speaking to the chief priests.
I'm going to take away your authority.
I'm going to take away your priesthood,
and I'm going to give it to a nation that bears fruits.
Now, this fruit-bearing thing
should be very familiar to us,
because what happens after Jesus cleanses the temple?
He basically curses a fig tree for not bearing fruit.
College you is, that's a coincidence
that he would curse a fig tree for not bearing fruit
and then go on to tell this parable
and basically tell the chief priests
that he's going to take away their authority,
their priesthood for not bearing fruit.
You think that's a coincidence, possibly?
Or maybe that's just what God intended to communicate.
To a stiff-necked people who refused
to be reconciled to God.
Now, there are three sign acts
to call them in Matthew chapter 21 through 23.
There's the cleansing of the temple,
there's the cursing of the fig tree,
and there's the delivery of the parables, right?
The parables are the two sons,
the wicked servants, and the marriage feasts.
All of them are meant to communicate judgment upon the people
in charge in Jerusalem.
The temple system is corrupt.
That court that Jesus had to cleanse
was the court of the Gentiles.
It was meant to bring all other nations back into God
and all of his other sons, you know, if Israel
is the firstborn of his sons,
according to what Moses was told by,
or Moses was told to tell Pharaoh rather an Exodus.
That would indicate that all other peoples,
all other nations are therefore also sons of God.
So it was always the intention of God
to reconcile all nations and all mankind.
But he first tried to consecrate his firstborn
because the firstborn is a priestly role.
The firstborn through salvation history
up until the golden calf was the priest of the family.
It was their job to mediate between the other family members
and God to help reconcile them back to God.
So the people of God were meant to be a kingdom of priests
to go out into the world and to bring back
all of the other sons and daughters of God.
So this court of Gentiles was meant
to help the other nations be reconciled to God.
And what do they find there when they travel
all that way to come to Jerusalem?
They find the money changers,
all the noises of the cows and the sheep and all the pigeons,
the smells and all the bartering back and forth
and the scandalous system of changing out money
into temple coins that could be used
for sacrifices and tithing.
And do you think they might have up to the little percentage
on maybe earning a little more in the exchange?
Do you think it was quite fair?
No, it wasn't.
There was a lot going on here that was not right.
And Jesus cleansed it because they failed to do
what they were supposed to do.
He has come to proclaim judgment.
And you find that in these, these sign acts
and in the parables, they are proclamations of judgment,
moving from warning to threat to doom.
And what happens?
Jesus issues seven woes in Matthew 23.
And if you look at Leviticus 20...
We're gonna have to stop there, pause it there.
We'll play part two for you tomorrow.
It's a deeper dive.
The hidden secrets you probably aren't hearing
in your local parish about the significance
of Jesus' triumphal entry.
We'll put the show notes up for you
and we'll go into the after show and take your take.
Next, God love you.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Praise be to God, glad you're on the team today.
2012, how old were you?
Let me know in the chat.
How old?
2012?
How old were you?
Good grief.
Looking at this 14-year-old video of me,
pff.
Makes me sad for myself.
Hey, I good.
Holy week to all says in Proximus.
Yay name in.
Thanks for hanging out with us.
Thanks for being on the team today.
Tooth twister.
Good afternoon.
Praise be to God, glad you're on the team today.
Pascal pattern equals death.
Minus silence.
Minus glory.
Woof.
Look at the structure of Easter.
Good Friday.
Death, holy Saturday.
Silence apparent.
Defeat Easter Sunday.
Glory.
Hey, Joe jams.
ACT crew.
Let's go, Lou.
Welcome back.
Glad to see you in the chat box.
Thanks for hanging out.
Three days of darkness is here.
Uh, cano text.
Eggie spammy.
Look at you go.
Joe looks like an absolute stud back in the day.
Good grief.
I'm a half the person I was.
Quite literally.
Half the person.
From those days.
Uh, Mary, good afternoon to you.
Damon.
Praise be to God.
Damon was 26 back in 2012.
I'm glad you're sitting down, Damon.
Man, your advantage.
I'd be afraid you break a hip.
26.
Wow.
Jacob says I was 19 in 2012.
That was your senior year in high school.
Wow.
Jacob, get off my lawn, your whippersnapper.
James, how old were you in 2012?
Uh, would have been 14 or 15, I guess.
What?
15 probably.
You were still playing video games and eating cereal.
Oh, yeah.
Back in the day.
And somehow still I was more productive back then than I am right now.
Oh, dang.
That video I, uh, I, I was live streaming that video.
And, uh, it was so 2014.
No, it was 14 years old.
No, 14 years old.
14.
The video is 14 years old.
So what, what year is that?
2012.
We said it was 2012.
So it was around 2012.
I was live streaming the video.
To a platform called.
You stream.
I remember correctly.
There was, this was before live video was a live video thing.
There was no live video on YouTube.
There was no live video on Facebook.
There was no live video on, on X.
We used to, uh, uh, a program called you stream.
If I remember correctly, it was called you stream.
So I would record my radio show live stream it to a small audience on you stream.
Take the video and then upload it to YouTube.
Back in the day.
And then I would send the audio portion to a distributor who would distribute that radio
show to a, to a variety of radio stations that were taking content.
And it was called the hold man.
And I was, I was using my kids closet to produce that show.
And I would produce the show on Sundays.
And it would take me three, three plus hours every Sunday afternoon.
So I'd come home from church.
We'd eat lunch together and then I would go up into my closet and produce the program.
Nicholas says I was in the fourth grade in 2012.
Woo, man, you were young back in the day.
I'm such an old geezer now.
I feel so old.
Also what do you think of the good Friday liturgy discussion and the telegram that I,
I must have missed the good Friday liturgy discussion.
Catch me up to speak.
Give me the cliff notes.
Jacob says, so producers, the same age as tragic Burton, I guess, are close to it.
I remember that year well because there wasn't, there was the apocalyptic mania with the
end of the mind calendar.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
How'd that work out?
I filmed 2012 and lots of other end of the world stuff.
I totally forgot about that.
54, you were 54, you were 54 years young in 2012, Mary.
Praise be to Jesus.
Producer James, yep, close, I believe Jake is roughly two years old or wow, Jake is
an old man.
Yeah, he's ancient, ancient of days.
Pray for his knee joints.
Lesco Lucis 2012, I was turning 37.
Your battling cancer that summer?
Oh, wow, I didn't know that.
No kidding.
Would you be, praise be to God, glad to hear it.
Inglis, good afternoon to you.
Tooth Twister says 2012 was the 31st anniversary of my 21st birthday.
Are you perpetually 21?
Is that it?
Tooth Twister?
Is that, I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to take that.
Divine intervention Ontario says 52 back in the day.
Albi was 27 back in those days.
2012, I sadly, I wasn't yet back in the church.
I was ill, I was an ill old, a little old heathen, yeah, well, we've all been through
that.
Diane, good afternoon to you, says I was 67 in 2012.
Joey Carter was 56, 57.
In December, were Joey, you were in 2012 or you are now?
Toronto Tech's 48 back in 2012.
Michael Allen, Johnson, God bless you.
Thanks for being on the team, really appreciate you being a member of the channel, means
a lot to me.
So, as I was 30, seems like so long ago, it does seem like forever ago, especially to me.
I can't stand actually looking at old videos of myself.
I don't like looking at, I don't like listening to myself.
It's especially difficult for me.
Are you guys like that?
Let me know.
It can be tricky business to have to go back down memory lane.
But this particular series, this Palm Sunday series, was very popular when I put it out.
A lot of people said they got a lot out of it, and so I'm hoping you do as well.
But, you know, like I said earlier in the radio side, one of the reasons why I felt the
need to put this back out into play it for you again, because many of you aren't familiar
with my old school days, and a lot of the content that I used to produce, and I thought
this would be a great opportunity to share some of that.
Number two, I am still so surprised at how many Catholics just are not at all aware
of typology.
Like they just don't understand how the old is perfected in the new.
While the new is hidden in the old, the saint Augustine would describe it.
And how specific every detail is of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, especially in his
passion narrative.
He's being very, very specific.
Every action is for a very specific intention.
And how many Catholics are just unaware of this, and I think it's very arbitrary, and
they just don't see the deeper as significant of it.
So I felt like this might be a great opportunity to kind of do that today.
So by the way, which reminds me, this week, James and I are off on Thursday on Friday.
So we will be, of course, knee deep in the Tritleum.
So Thursdays and Friday shows, I think James is planning to record himself reading the
Sumatheologica and its entirety in the original Latin, if I remember correctly.
Well that wasn't necessarily discussed, but I believe the plan is an older ACT show
on Thursday and then Friday we're going to be on EWTN's special Tritleum programming.
And I can get specifics for that if anybody's interested.
But you would rather read the Sumatheologica in the original Latin, is that how I'm supposed
to do it?
I do whatever makes you happy, Joe.
That's what I'm doing.
You see?
That's what I'm talking about.
That's teamwork.
In fact, he's going to translate from the original Latin into Aramaic on the fly.
That's what he's going to do.
It wouldn't that be cool.
That'd be super cool.
I have some studying to do between now and then I guess.
Jacob says I'm very new to typology, Joe.
It is a very interesting subject.
Yes, exactly.
It makes it come alive.
It typology is amazing.
It actually makes it come alive.
And I used to say this back in the day when I was, you know, doing almost exclusively
apologetic scripture study typology and by way of content.
And it's just like, if we were to time travel back and be in the crowd as Jesus was proclaiming
things to these crowds, those people would understand the deeper implications more than
you and I would.
And I think that's the point that I'm getting at.
It's like, if only we could have the interpretive key to understanding at the same level that
Mary would, that even the average Israeli citizen would, when Jesus says, ego a me, why
that triggers the Jews to pick up stones to try to kill him.
But for you and I, it's like, what?
Well, that don't mean nothing.
It's like, all he said was, I am.
Why is that a big deal?
It's a huge deal because they understand things from a, from a, from a biblical perspective
that we have since lost.
Now it's not, it's not as though the church never taught this.
The church taught this thoroughly prior to the Vatican II Council.
And that's why I used Cornelian Salopaday's great commentary.
He was a 17th century theologian scripture scholar Jesuit.
And his commentary is amazing, but you never hear it at your local parish.
Why?
Because we, we seem to want to cast out the rich tradition and patrimony of Holy Mother
Church.
The treasures are there.
It's time to pull them out, dust them off and reuse them and help this current generation
better understand its own story, its own history.
So part of the reason why I do that and the Cornelian Salopaday commentary is fantastic.
Father Haydock commentary is fantastic, Father McKeevely is fantastic.
I do love, by the way, the Ignatius Catholic study Bible, which is a very recent commentary.
It is, it's fantastic.
I love it.
I highly recommend it.
And I would encourage everyone to read these things.
Let's go loose.
Hey James, do you think you can put the flyer of Joe's pilgrimage in the chat?
Please and thank you.
I can do that.
Yeah, by, by the way, by, by the by.
So not only am I going to go on pilgrimage to a Spain and Portugal this November with
Father Zhao and Louise, who's just added to that.
So I'll be going.
They're going to be updating this poster to include my beautiful mug, I suppose.
I don't know.
I'm not necessary, but it's helpful.
November the 9th through the 21st.
So there's that.
It's going to be a fantastic jam packed pilgrimage, but also I am going to give you, let me
give you some travel of some of my travel.
Because this April, I'll be at speaking at the Gala for the Fulness of Truth, Catholic
Evangelization Ministries in Houston, Texas, April the 23rd, June 5th through the 7th.
I will be in Round Rock, Texas at the Fulness of Truth conference with Father Ripperger and
a bunch of others.
And Jesse is going to be there, Father Ripperger, climate whom we've interviewed before.
Shane Smith, I'm looking forward to meeting Shane Smith, I've never met him, so that ought
to be interesting.
I've never been a met Father Ripperger in person, so that ought to be interesting.
So we'll see how that goes.
I'll be doing that June 5th through the 7th in Round Rock, Texas.
It looks like I'm also going to be in San Antonio, August the 21st through the 23rd.
That's his name, Staphonic, I think it's going to be the main headliner at that.
So I'll be, yeah, Christophonic, I'll be there.
So that's a couple of dates.
Also I'm going to be in Buffalo, New York, Praise be to God, and for a, we're going to
have a definitive debate over the best Buffalo wings known to mankind.
And that's going to be the week of the 20th.
I'll be there April 20th through the 25th.
We still have yet to figure out because it's going to be fun drive week.
So primarily we're going to be doing fun drives.
What?
Oh, hold on, it, when is the fun drive, James?
Let me see.
I think it's that last week of April.
I gave the wrong dates.
I'm looking at the calendar thinking I just made a mess something up big time, but no,
I, I didn't.
I got it right.
April 23rd, I'm at the Gala in Houston, April 25th, two days later, I fly to Buffalo, and
I stay in Buffalo until May 2nd.
Yes.
The 27th to May 1st is the year on here.
Well, we are going to do with a fun drive live from Wegmans, the entire week.
Maybe, maybe not.
Don't film.
In fact, check that.
But we're going to, Joe, we're going to make sure you get to Wegmans.
The Friday night, the Friday night, we have to have something.
I'm trying to gathering on Friday night May 1st.
Like, we have to have like, I don't know what, what can we do, James, we've got to come
up with something.
Maybe at the studio, Buffalo, we can't, it's Friday, you can't do Buffalo wings on our
Friday.
Right.
That was the difficult day.
Thursday night.
Can, would people show up for a Thursday night Buffalo wing night?
I don't know Sunday night.
What if we did, what if there was some gathering on this 26th Sunday night?
I don't know.
I got to come up with something.
There's got to be something.
We'll figure it out.
I don't know it just yet.
But that's my plans for this week, for the next month or so.
Looking forward to getting out.
It's going to be great.
John Paul Sandivolt, God bless you.
When are you going to have Robert Royal back on?
Oh, haven't called me.
I love to have him back on.
Harder to get, I would argue.
Maybe Father Murray would be easier.
Like this Williams Buffalo fish, there's the flying fish out there so we could do a fish
wings.
We do have a good fish right here.
I will say.
Thank you, really.
We do.
Lindsey Graham is so weird.
I totally agree with Matt Walsh on that one.
And Jacob.
Lindsey Graham's a weird bird.
Hey, English, good afternoon again.
Thanks for hanging out.
The Doom Slayers here.
I got an Ignatius study Bible for Christmas.
It is good.
A lot of resources, very in-depth, I'm learning a lot.
Also just got 2D, do it at Raim's Bibles.
One for my future wife and she gets, when she gets entered into the church, praise be
to God.
Congratulations.
That's awesome.
Continue to keep you in prayers.
I want Buffalo wings says, let's go.
I had actually some Buffalo wings yesterday.
My kids went out for wings.
They brought some homes.
Make sure you had the air quotes.
You had what you think are Buffalo wings.
Are Buffalo wings?
Buffalo wings.
There you go.
What are you suggesting is the greatest Buffalo wings ever?
What are you putting your-
This is an interesting debate because it depends on what you define as a Buffalo wing.
And even Jake and I argue this all the time.
What's your stuff on screen?
The Buffalo wings are, it's like the spicy mild medium sauce that you would think of.
Whereas we have really good specialty wings at certain places here too.
So there's this debate as to what qualifies as a Buffalo wing and what doesn't.
I have a favorite wing and it's actually not what I would consider a traditional Buffalo
wing.
But I think you need to try them nonetheless.
So your modernist is what you're saying?
So that would be barbilled tavern.
Barbilled tavern.
Barbilled tavern.
Even a honey butter barbeque, if you can remember all those words are in my opinion my favorite
wings and Buffalo.
But if you want like a traditional Buffalo wing, I would think of some of the local like
taverns and even some of the pizza places around here do a really good Buffalo wing.
Anything but anchor bar anything but anchor bar anything but anchor bar.
I've never been to anchor bar because it has that bad of a reputation here like it's
not bad.
It's even worse than you imagine.
I don't know, man, I don't know the shared in hotel in Nashville, New Hampshire got to
be the best in the past.
I see.
I took Father Bransage to a wing place with me and he was pretty impressed by the ones
talking about.
So I don't know.
He said, you have you have documented evidence of this or I mean, how do I know this
not necessarily?
Not necessarily.
There are pictures probably of us together if that satisfies the requirement, uh huh.
Sure.
Call him up and ask him.
If not, I might have to.
I might have to factor in a further brand such wing testimonial to play back on the
show.
One of these wing testimonial on during Holy Week.
I'm sure he's a busy guy so you may not take our call nor is it probably a significant
enough, but whatever.
Okay.
Listen, we're going to do something.
I don't know what it is.
But we're going to figure it out.
Fish fry two old post lint on Friday is fish fry two old, what two twister?
You got me, you got me confused there.
What are drums?
Discuss.
What are we talking about now?
I have a take on this.
You, you, you do?
I do.
For me, it's flats.
Hundred percent.
What are we talking about?
Start over.
You know how there's two different types of chicken wings.
There's like the drumstick looking one and then the ones that are in your narrow.
So I don't even know the lingo.
Like you guys know.
You guys have lingo.
Mm-hmm.
It's a way of life, Joe.
I guess.
I suppose for me, it's flats.
It's drumsticks though.
I know.
It's prairie.
Oh, honestly.
It's drumsticks.
You would.
Had I not answered first, you would have said flats.
Like it's, you don't have to like do so much work.
Like the flats require work.
You got to separate the bones, feel to eat the tiny little piece inside versus getting
the big chunky part that you just hold the handle that comes equipped with a handle.
But don't you like being able to just like hold it from either side and rotate it as
you go?
I like the drums.
I suppose drums are easier to dip if you want to go down the road.
That was a benefit.
I wasn't even considering.
Thank you for making my argument stronger.
See?
I'm an honest man.
What can I say?
You are.
I still, I don't know.
For me, it's flats.
Something about them.
I don't know.
We'll have to.
Well, the good news is, maybe that's what we'll have to like definitively solve them.
But some of the places here, you can order all wings or all flats or all drums or all flats.
So you can, if you want, only one or the other.
That's service food.
Why did we just lose your audio?
It was the real question.
We asked.
What did you ask?
Fish fry?
Yeah.
What does it mean, though?
We have the recipe says the flats, you can just hold vertically and push the bone out.
That's also true.
It's not possible.
It can be a cause of division.
I myself like the drums, however, I cannot go against either.
My problem with wings, honestly, the biggest problem with wings is it's like, it's just
an appetizer.
It's not a real meal.
You got it.
You got to have like 18 pounds to feel like eight something.
Maybe you're just eating the wrong wings, Jim.
Maybe.
We're going to find out.
Maybe Mary says flats, crispy skin, tasty meat.
Boy, you got a lot of flat fans here.
Yep.
She still says all the flat ones because they are much more tender and more uniform.
Okay.
Okay.
There is more fat on the drum.
For sure.
That's the way to go.
You're just being a contrarian.
It's also like you less dirty in your fingers, don't dirty.
You got a hand.
You're eating wings and you're worried about your fingers getting dirty.
It's only approaching this the wrong way.
I don't like messy food.
I'm not a messy food guy.
A drip five jury and more.
Grab one tip, push the other tip on the plate, push down, get nothing but chicken.
How do we get under this topic?
It's got to figure it out.
You seem like you're outnumbered here.
I guess I am outnumbered.
The flat fans are winning the day.
That's for sure.
Catholic martyrs rip.
Good afternoon.
Thanks for being on the team.
Thanks for being a member of the channel.
It means a lot to me.
Joe, sorry.
I had to step away.
Did you see any reports about the sky in Western Australia?
It's red.
I have seen reports about that.
The sandstorm in Western Australia is not looking great.
It gives off apocalyptic vibes to say the least.
John Paul says in Buffalo, what, what would you just, you just said, mean peeps, acrylidge?
Where Buffalo wings were invented or discovered grandma, bellissimo, just left her wings in
the, in the flower too long, because it's too twisted or 77.
That's kind of funny, actually.
Oh, by the way, I forgot I have, I have tea, a Easter vigil or Easter Sunday morning.
Let me know.
We're going to go to vigil.
For me Sunday morning.
I feel like, I don't know how I feel about going to vigil.
I'm a big midnight mask, I know, for Christmas.
Yeah, like midnight mask, but the problem I have with going to the vigil is, I feel like
it should be reserved for only those that are coming into the church.
I could see that, yeah.
Being confirmed or like, like it's like their night and it should be a reserve for their
family.
I don't know, I know, that's not a thing, but I feel like it should be kind of, I feel
awkward about taking up seats when it could be other people like with their friends and
their family members enjoying the night.
I don't know.
I don't know how to feel about that.
KZ2, good afternoon to you.
People does not satisfy the obligation says, pre-55, you mean?
Oh, John Paul says the part about the wings just being an appetizer.
That was sacrilegious and buffalo.
Yeah, it might be.
How much do you have to order though?
It would afford to feel like a meal, like I guarantee I'm pushing back from that table
still hungry.
Guaranteed.
I want to say a normal order is like 12 maybe at an average place.
12?
12?
I'm like, was it?
They're pretty big size wings though.
They don't skimp.
That was so nice.
A little 12.
One link of the 12.
One really did me over.
Imagine if you could just order a double order and that was a thing for people like you.
Like, pal, keep her coming from the kitchen, okay?
You can order a month.
I get a 50 if you want.
This is like Berlin airlift stuff, okay, pal?
Keep her moving.
Don't even stop.
Like, I need two waiters constantly on the hoof.
All right.
So I'll get you more than 12.
That's fine.
That's totally fine.
That's totally fine.
12?
12?
Like, what about 24?
What about 24?
No, no.
Come on.
Like, there's no meat on these things.
There's literally no meat on them.
You're eating the wrong wings, man.
I'm telling you.
I eat two pounds of steak at a sitting.
Okay.
What are we going to do?
How are we going to do that?
I don't know, man.
We'll just get you like 30 wings, Joe.
It'll be okay.
Well, it'll be a non-stop.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And they will be very enjoyable.
You have my work.
Job bosses, the topic of wings will bring about lots of emotion
throughout Buffalo and the surrounding vicinity.
Indeed.
How do we get onto this?
Catherine Hunters has agreed, Joe, too messy and not.
Thank you.
It's like so much work.
You gotta wear a bib.
You gotta clean your hands are all dirty.
I mean, like what?
The problem is the wings that you're eating
are not good enough to make all of that worth it.
See, this is the underlying issue here.
We'll see.
And that is going to change with me.
We're going to take you to the right place.
All right, promises, promises.
Jacob says, I'm debating on if I want to go
to both Easter vigil and Easter.
We are doing the pre-55 Holy Week.
Ooh.
He storm says, I have to go to the vigil
whether it is Christmas or Easter
because I'm the one who has to cook the food all day.
And they usually start cooking around 6.30 a.m.
Jacob says, it depends on what time the vigil is.
If it is after 4 p.m.
technically under the 83 code,
it satisfies the Sunday obligation.
I think our vigil is 10 something at night.
If I remember correctly, our pre-55 vigil is 7 p.m.
If I want to go to both, I will stay the night
at a friend's house and serve the 8 a.m.
in the morning, then drive back home afterwards.
Yeah, wow.
Unlimited wing frenzy.
That's what it would have to be.
It would have to be.
Damon doesn't like blue cheese.
Those are fighting words.
Okay, what is the appropriate sauce for wings
then in the city of Buffalo?
To dip it in its blue cheese without a doubt.
Honestly, if you order a ranch, you might get kicked out.
And if not by me, then somebody on the staff at the place of it,
but I might get to you first.
I said what I said.
And it's fighting words.
I'm going to order a ranch just to be a contrarian.
Buffalo blue cheese is a different thing, by the way,
because you know who else didn't like blue cheese
when they came to Buffalo?
A good friend of the show, Jordan Pateco.
And he quickly, really quickly converted after trying Buffalo blue cheese.
A full of blue cheese.
Yeah, it's a good one.
Put them up.
I like that.
It was a great gift, Damon.
Ranch is nasty.
It's his James 1697.
JP, I enjoy blue cheese or even sour cream in a pinch.
The thing is, if I ordered a blue cheese almost anywhere else,
I wouldn't like it either.
So like, I understand where that's coming from.
It's coming from a deep place of hurt and misunderstanding.
Well, I'm telling you, you have to trust me on this.
Well, here's what I'm actually going to do though.
Honestly, I'm just going to warn you up front.
I'm actually going to want them without anything.
And I'm going to do honey mustard.
Well, you know, I don't know if you're worthy of a response on this or if I should just let it lie.
Just going to go on honey mustard and we're going to, that's crazy.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be fantastic.
I have to try the blue cheese, Joe.
I have to try it.
If you don't like it, fine.
I'll still be upset, but at least I'll know that you gave it a chance.
Maybe I'll try it once just for you.
Yes.
A two twister says, how the pinion ranch is so I'm in.
So as avocado ranch, avocado is fantastic.
I actually love avocado.
I can eat them all day.
Joe, do you have the pre 55?
No, I do not.
Matera Delirosa.
I wish I wish I wish, but I do not.
I am a Houstonian, but I think the FSSP near me.
Yeah, that's where I go.
Matera Delirosa, I go to the one near you.
And you should stop by sometime.
We'd love to see you, but we do not have the pre 55 to get pre 55 near here.
You're going to have to go to Institute of Christ, the king out in Louisiana.
They do the pre 55 if I remember correctly.
But we don't sour cream lace was super hot green chiles from New Mexico.
Okay, that sounds interesting.
Actually, um,
Para bullies, parably Saturday night because I'm getting baptized.
You're getting baptized.
Well, good for you.
Welcome home.
Praise be to Jesus.
I'm glad to hear it.
See, let's go lose.
Yeah, honey mustard.
Am I right or am I right?
I'm right about this.
I've just changed.
I've upended the Buffalo Wing industry.
I've never even heard that proposed buff.
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, try it tonight.
See how it goes.
You'll thank me in the morning.
Hey, uh, drip vibe.
Does raw honey from farmers market is good on a stake just seasoned with salt.
You're not wrong about that, by the way.
Yeah, that does sound actually very, very good.
Ali tomorrow, so maybe I'll do that tomorrow.
Sounds good.
Um,
you're not going to get big chunks on a Buffalo wing.
He's talking about the green cheese probably.
Oh, yeah, man, in which case, I don't like the big chunks either, but Buffalo blue cheese
is nice and smooth, typically smooth.
He says, look at him just like defending the Buffalo blue cheese.
I'll go to bad.
Apparently, I can tell, I can tell here to film Joe's conversion and real time, by the way,
when he's in these wings.
Yeah, I'm that.
There will be proof.
Oh, look at me.
So good.
We'll see how I go saw some side breaded with barbecue and I actually technically, I'm not
allowed to eat any of this.
If I'm being honest, like I'm not, not supposed to be eating any of it, but as long as you
won't tell my wife what I do when I'm in Buffalo, like a Buffalo wings and blue cheese.
And maybe it'll be all right.
Ralph furly says, when you add mayo, sour cream, Frank's red hot and scallions to blue cheese.
Of course, blue cheese is better in Buffalo.
You can eat that dip with a spoon, he says.
Well, we'll see.
We will see.
