CEO of Bevy & Dave-Tiffney T. Laing:Part 2 of 3-Ep 3229

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Well, our guest tonight is someone who I have great respect for and who have been an inspiration

to and for me, Tiffany Teline, ancestor amplifier, author and founder, at award winning heavy

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Tiffany, welcome back to Challenges to save radio program.

Hi Gary, thank you so much for having me.

I'm so grateful to be able to talk with you again and be here present with you and everyone

that's listening.

Hey, it's an honor to have you on.

First and foremost, how are you and your family?

Family is doing great.

I'm doing great.

Yeah, it's obviously a lot of happens since we last talked, but we are doing well.

And everyone made it through the pandemic.

God is good.

We're very grateful.

How about you?

Yes, yes.

Hey, all as well.

You know, I always look at when we have a temporary difficulty in trying to get on for an interview,

that always tell me that the guests have something powerful that the listeners need to know about.

And so I am so thankful that God has brought us back together.

This is, we're going to do a brief recap of part one, maybe until the day part two is due.

Because Tiffany is going to bring us up today.

And again, take a look at our show notes.

So Tiffany, for all who are listening,

representing diverse cultures and contemplating their future,

what would we ask for the reason why we're growing up?

You know, it's interesting.

So my great uncle, my great uncle is gone.

If people don't know, now don't know.

He is the creator of the original low chicken wings,

who's in Buffalo.

And I wanted to be a restaurant tour at some point,

because my great uncle Paul,

as well as my grandson on several restaurants in Buffalo, New York.

So I grew up working at one of the restaurants from,

I think it was like $8.14 all the way to college,

while I was in high school.

And so I was first fired by that.

So at one point, I did one has my home restaurant to the point

where I even tried to go to culinary school.

But it's just interesting and best though,

I didn't major in any of that in undergrad.

I did major in journalism originally,

thinking that I was going to be a journalist.

By the time I went to college,

and then,

a senior year, I was like,

whoa, this is not what I'm interested anymore.

And so that's not like,

think up on a, you know, start-know-one business,

and at that time,

I thought it was going to be a restaurant

that I did site, you know,

I wasn't going to change my major

because it was too late at that point,

because I wanted to graduate on time.

So I ended up just going to get a master's in business,

and I thought that's what I was going to do,

because let's run tour.

Okay, so here you are.

So here you are.

Look at those aspirations again,

from the family standpoint,

to creation standpoint,

all in science.

So now, here you are,

having completed 48 doctorial level courses

in leadership and higher education studies.

You're on your way,

especially for those individuals out there,

know what to do with this degree.

So what happened next?

And why did you decide to go a different direction?

So, um, interestingly enough,

I think what's important to say,

to right now, is that, you know,

life is a journey,

and so when you are living,

you're going to have different,

um, you know, ideas,

because you're growing.

So your growth is constant,

and so you're going to have different ideas

of what you think, um,

you know, you're going to do

with things of that sort,

but you become inspired,

and as you grow older,

and as you become more, um,

more aware,

um, and more connected with yourself,

and obviously,

guiding your purpose,

then things are naturally going to change

and serious in the right direction.

But I will say, for me,

in regards to, um,

working in higher education,

and, and, and,

engagement to what I am now,

and, um,

the educational industry,

as far as learning tools,

games for those of,

who are,

may not know what we're talking about

regarding that,

you know,

I understood very clearly

when I was working on my doctorate,

that,

enough research had already been done,

in terms of black history,

in terms of understanding

that children achieve more academically,

when they are connected to black history.

The proof was already there,

it had been done so many times before,

and it was funny,

because when I was,

in my doctorate,

I thought I was going to,

you know,

doing something new,

I'm barking on the same rack,

and changing the world,

I let everyone know,

hey, see, it's proven.

You know, our children,

they need to be connected to their heritage,

um,

taking a chief more,

that it, it worked.

But it had already proven,

by hundreds and hundreds of researches

forming,

so I understood that,

I didn't need to add to that,

there was no need to be

to write another paper.

I needed to focus on solutions.

So that's when I left this doctorate

and I decided to,

focus on solutions,

and once I finally left,

and decided that,

um, something concrete actually,

hope I chose a first writing of paper

was more important to me.

Um, the idea,

you know, it came eight months later,

finally understood,

okay, children learned

in toys,

they learned to play,

and that's when I decided,

okay,

baby and baby,

here we go.

And that's when, um,

I was finally able to have,

you know,

that I have moment,

but, you know,

for those who are listening,

what I was saying is that,

you have to be patient

with yourself,

because,

when God guides you,

you can actually hear.

And if I didn't leave the program,

I would have focused on,

you know,

trying to finish what I could clearly

confess my normal behavior,

which is to finish anything that I start.

Um,

sometimes you have to,

if you already know,

like if you know what you're supposed to do,

you have to be willing to leave that.

You have to be willing to,

to, to,

in my case,

I wouldn't even call it,

I wouldn't even call it,

I wouldn't even call it.

I wouldn't even call it,

I wouldn't even call it,

I would say stepping out on sight,

because I'm just so clearly,

that I was hearing from God.

And,

I just kept speaking,

and then God revealed it to me.

And the moment it was revealed,

I nearly got to worst.

Wow!

So, listeners,

you're hearing from Tiffany Keeland,

to term as a recap, as prevention in the collegiate world,

and why she stepped into the next venture by space

and not from a risk standpoint.

So Tiffany, why did you create a name

in your company, Vivian Day?

Well, I wanted to honor my daughter, Beverly,

and my brother, David.

And for those who would like to know a fun fact,

it was a vision call, ancestors and descendants.

And, you know, for the obvious reasons,

you know, I was connecting the ancestors,

the sentences to ancestors.

But, you know, I learned really quickly that it was the wrong name

because people couldn't pronounce it.

When I went to the bank to the positive money well,

they couldn't even pronounce it as both.

So I knew, okay, okay, it's time to change it.

The times things as me, what was interesting

is that Beverly Day was first that I created

for the company.

So, they were already on the product.

They were already there.

They were the first thing I created before I even created a logo

and a certain descendants.

So, I find it interesting that I didn't see the obvious at first.

But luckily, it was an easy change because Beverly Day

were already on the actual physical product anyway.

So, it wasn't like a hard switch.

So, that was a good thing.

But, yeah, I wanted to honor my family.

And I'm very much so a lover of history

and a lover of honoring our ancestors and our families.

So, Beverly Day for me was something that I should just make sure

it was the part of the company.

Like I said, it was the first thing I created.

And so, I was happy with that.

My daughter started when she was four

and I was designing the first product as she was three.

And so, it's a beautiful thing that she knows that this is, you know, for her.

This is a part of her family history.

And so, it makes me very happy.

It makes me very proud.

Hey, and you should be as well as your daughter.

You know, as you know, there was a time

where you had only one day, one week and now one month

to learn Black history.

And what ways a couple of incorrect knowledge was similar to when you went to the bank.

Does that impact your child's educational world view

and a level of achievement?

You know, this is fascinating.

And I love this question so much because, you know,

that's why that even exists, right?

Because the most important thing that people need to understand,

no matter what ethnic group you were a part of,

is that all human beings need to feel connected

through their history, heritage, and culture,

and especially in a very positive way.

And so, around the world, right?

No matter where you are, Black history, right?

It's always limited to something very small,

whether you are, you know, some classes that might just be

commendation, certain commendation here in the United States,

is using slavery, the civil rights movement,

and a question, a law, the reconstruction era.

And so, what happens to a child when they're listening to that?

They feel like they have nothing to offer

because they're very much so connected

to the people who look like us.

We always relate to the people who look like us.

So, if you're constantly giving us information

where it's just relative to a person,

then what does that do for the young child

in terms of their confidence level?

How they feel about who they are?

How they feel about their ancestors?

And so, to me, right now,

we have to change how we are doing things

if we want to move forward as a people.

I think it's a state of do the same thing over and over again.

You can expect a different result.

So, let's talk about that for a second.

We'll re-understand right now

when a couple of us have in the United States

or that we are having a crisis in regards to literacy,

a national level,

regarding our children

and how they're performing there as well as with math.

And for me, it's bigger than the tool to teach students.

It's bigger than the teachers.

It's something bigger than that.

And for me, what I see,

based on research in my own observation and understanding,

and as well as me having my own daughter,

is that our children are bombarded.

They are bombarded with negative images

and when you have this compound effect

of seeing the clean brutality of TV,

regarding us as a people

when you're learning the schools,

part of anything positive about black history.

And then you go to the textbooks,

the same things.

You go to the toy houses,

the same thing, there's no representation.

And so what happens is,

without realizing it,

a child is losing self-esteem.

And the self-esteem is being sent,

and they don't realize it.

Right? Because the gliminal messages are very powerful.

Imaging is very powerful.

And so all of this marketing that we see

is causing an impact.

So we have to do something different.

And I feel that it's high time for us to really invest

in the children.

They need to be where we spend the majority of our money.

I don't know if you've seen a number,

but it said that $1.2 trillion is what

the black community in the United States spent,

I believe it was 2017,

excepting like that.

And we are expected to spend $1.8 trillion in 2024.

And out of that $1.2 trillion,

up here you go,

guess where most of the money went,

or the $1.2 trillion.

It went through hair.

F made hair and just 85% of the money.

So we have to do a better job.

We need to invest more in our children.

And we need to remember being mostly on education,

on supplemental resources for education.

If needed, we need to have problems.

These are things that we need to start investing in.

And so we can't see it differently.

So we're not taking as seriously

in regard to our children's knowledge of who we are.

When we talk about the state of the black community,

we cannot forget that if you don't invest in children,

then you don't have a future.

Because me and you,

Gary, they exist because we are products

of the generation before us.

So the next thing is their products of us.

So how we see ourselves doing in the future,

right, if we want to see ourselves out of a person,

if we want to see ourselves right in that community,

then we want to see ourselves out of this car state

that we say is continuous.

So we have to change our patterns of behavior.

So that means we have to develop a vision

for what we want to see and use our dollars towards that.

And we know without a doubt that you cannot forget

about the children,

if you want to see a brighter future for your communities.

Ethnic groups around the world,

every ethnic group understands this,

and we understand it,

and we have to go see something about it.

So back to your question.

One day, one week,

one month of learning black history.

Clearly, we need to learn it every day,

especially African Americans

and all black people around the globe,

because we suffer from a social condition

where we are constantly bombarded

over racism and discrimination.

And because of our social identity,

within the country and the world,

when everyone sees black people,

everyone understands stereotypes, right?

Everyone is understanding of different stereotypes,

and one thing we can say around the globe

is that black people, African people,

no matter where you are,

they always experience some form of discrimination

or racism at some point in their lives.

And we know that because of this social experience,

that it impacts our confidence,

and it impacts how we see ourselves,

especially when you're a young child,

and when you grow up in that,

you don't even know we did you.

All you know is,

you suffer from a negative social identity.

So we have to stop it in this track,

and the only way to do it

to invest in the children.

Tiffany, that's one reason

all that you just shared

that I am so appreciative of,

you know, you're creating and founding them every day.

And what you're doing with it,

even because you're talking about knowledge,

and as you know,

those who possess the knowledge

can throw those who may not.

And when we're lived to the fact

as a list of, you know,

one day,

one week or one month history,

you know,

just as you've just indicated every day,

it's a day of learning.

And you know,

what's interesting is not just for the children,

for the adults as well,

because you know,

as you know,

there's a time where,

when you turned on the TV,

they want to,

when to believe,

or if they are,

to believe that,

the individual who has to be blind,

with some type of ape,

or swinging around with Tarzan,

or making one believe that apricot

was a zoo versus a continent.

And I say that because there are a lot of individuals

who may not know their paths

like you're trying to

instruct,

peek,

cause to learn if one wants to,

so that one can understand

how they got to where they are,

so that they can go for,

in their future,

without any type of obstacle,

knowing that they can be all they have a right to be.

You know,

so when I hear you,

and I hear you loud,

I always think of it

from a biblical standpoint,

because any community

can go back to the garden

and find themselves

coming out of Adam

and anyone who wants to believe

and bring it to the day,

if a person,

depending on their motives,

don't try to go in

and twist say something

that it does not.

Tiffany,

at what age does a child world view begin to form?

And what does the studies reflect?

So at age three,

and John gets age three,

a child world view begins to form

and they become very,

aware of race,

even at that age.

And it shows that

black children especially do,

and it's interesting

that's the reason,

that that's the case.

And I think it's because,

race is always such a factor

and black people lie

that it's always part of, you know,

some form of conversation.

Even some parents

trying to train their children

how to deal with, you know,

police or how they might be impacted at school.

Whether it's books,

children's books

or some race,

then they're always pointing out,

a black child.

So at John gets three,

that's what the study

showed, I said,

at that age,

children's world view begins to form.

Now this is really interesting

because what I want to say

is there's one point

what is it?

It's okay, right now,

we are facing two

size as a people. Okay. In 2016, it is expected that there's going to be one out of four people

are going to be African. Have you heard those numbers? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That came out

by the UN. And I wanted I wanted to mention that because it makes it that much even more

imperative, right? That black children absolutely right, are connected to their history. And

like you said, be adult because you're a product of who raised us, the process of our time.

So the parents don't know. Then they can't clear it. A lot of parents who and grandparents who

purchase from that day, they always say that they're learning with the child, that they're

learning with their grandparents. Because many of them were not, you know, given this information

when they were children. But that brings me to my next, which is we to be curious, scary,

curiosity has to be a part of our makeup every day. Because it's a curiosity that's going

to get us to the information that we need about who we are as a people. You know, there's

something I always read that really bothers me. I don't know if you've heard this statement

before. You probably have a third popular. No matter where you go, you can always see the

same people say, they didn't teach us that. Have you heard it back before? People say,

yes. They didn't teach us that. Okay. Why do they need to teach you that? Why do you

teach them they didn't teach? There's nothing worse than hearing an adult say they didn't

teach us that. Because that means to me that as even your adult years, you haven't, you

haven't made a choice to be curious to read about your own history. How can they teach

us that? But not an adult. When you're an adult, there's no reason for you to be making

an statement, which let's me know that because it's so impacted as childhood, that whatever

they learn at childhood, it stays with them without even going before to change or to add

to their own knowledge. There's another one I want to mention. There's another statement

that people say, which is, I wish they loved us like they loved our culture. Have you

heard a relational wise? I had heard a question I was posed from a 29-year-old. Why do they

hate us so much? But you just took the opposite picture. Well, the think of bodyguari is that

all of this goes back to childhood. And that's why I'm mentioning this. You know, when

I hear a adult say, I wish they loved us like they loved our culture. Where I hear when

I hear that statement, isn't a adult trying to be like any sister? And you've got to

wonder, why would a adult say statement? Because it sounds like a child would say it.

That's right. It's to the point where people have made t-shirts and sweatshirts out of it.

It's an actual business. People have actually made a business out of these statements. And,

you know, I think the reason why that is, what I see and what I hear, person who's stuck in

childhood means, in childhood, they're seeing the observation. All of the racism and discrimination,

they're wanting to be like. They're wanting to be accepted. A child doesn't understand why

this leads to them. They don't understand all of this stuff. So what happens is, now they're older,

right? And they're still trying to be light and accepted. You know, it's like the Stockholm

syndrome. And people have attempted to, even though they're in their adult body, they still

had to move going from what happened to them emotionally and psychologically as a child,

which is why you could speak to an idiot right now. What are they going to do? They're going to start

talking to you about their childhood. They're going to go down memory lane, which is why it's so

important for us, particularly as a people, black people, to be very conscientious about what

they're chosen by, and make sure that they invest in a chosen connection with their global African

history, heritage and culture. We have to move beyond just African Americans as to who. We have

to move beyond colonization, because it's that ancient history that's going to be the source of

pride. And that people have to understand the importance of it. They have to move beyond it.

And if you don't, they're going to continue to stay where we are. And another point I want to

make is, if history wasn't that important, if history wasn't leads to our progression as a people,

then it wouldn't be such a fight to keep us from learning it.

That's right.

There's a reason why. There's a reason why it's never, you know, of importance in the

school curriculums, right? There's a reason why it's always hidden, right? There's a reason for that.

So we know then that we need to take care of that and make sure that we continue the legacy

of protecting our history and sharing it the next generation, because it's that thing that

empowers you. It is that thing that inspires you. And every human needs to be inspired

to achieve higher. That's when you begin to believe in yourself and your abilities and the

possibilities. But you have to know that it exists before. You know, this is very fascinating. I'll

give one good example of an adult. There was on Instagram, there was a picture of

black women who were firemen, firewomen. And a woman in a comment said, oh, I didn't even know

that we can be firewomen. Now, this is an adult who even needed to see that firewomen existed

in order to aspire to do that. So if you need as an adult, we'll of course you need it as a panel.

So we have to make that our children are hired. We have to make sure that they love themselves.

We have to make sure that they are connected through their global

African history. It's not just about African American history. It's about our global heritage.

And we have to bring that together. That's fine. As you were sharing Tiffany, I was thinking about

something you said earlier. You know, I look at everything like a relationship. So

I want to speak of our community. And as you mentioned, I've related the child learning

from the parent of parents. It's one that's been blessed to have both while coming up or in their

life. It's also important that for their parent to open up to allow their child to know where they

come from because there's so many chemicals and bonds and at the same time, the person who

has to live in an adult higher than where they became an adult, have to learn to love self

because their child is also going to emulate. And that's why I always believe that those

would do me for our time with do determine our character. We're going to have to be like them

with vice versa. And as they add back to what you had just said, that's related to

being inspirational, knowing about how to be, why to be, and to move forward. Listeners are

destinators, Tiffany T. Lane, the founder of their VMD. I want to acknowledge the new listeners

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Tiffany, why do you believe children, teachers and parents need access to supplemental curriculum,

resources on global black history? You know, it's very limited in the school. So you can't

always depend on what's available there. The beauty is that most teachers have the ability to have

the option, right? They have the autonomy to teach us how they want to any subject. They can add on

extra supplemental materials. And it's very important that teachers and parents have access

to the tools that are going to help those children learn global African history,

global black history in a way that will be positive. That will really help them develop a positive

identity and gain the confidence that's needed to be great leaders. I think right now you just

don't have a lot of tools available. It's very limited. And so, you know, but even

though there's limited tools out there, there's more access to information than never before,

right? And so there's a growing number of companies. Obviously, you have mine, Bevy, and Dave,

and you have, you know, some other companies that are now coming about that are, you know,

providing representation. And so I think that without supplemental learning tools,

then a teacher and a parent, right? They won't have the access. Not all parents are creative.

We got to be, you know, very clear about that. Not all parents are creative. Some people need ideas.

Some people need inspiration to teach and to do it in the way that it's fun. So, Bevy,

days exist to make sure that we are available to make sure that, you know, the parents and the

teachers and the children alike have money tools that are going to get them excited about our global

black history heritage and culture that's going to get them inspired and want them to

and help them to see life through new lens when they can see the possibilities. And right now,

you know, a lot of times, I don't know about you, Gary, growing up. But sometimes people,

when you think of black history, automatically think it's going to be sad because there's just

been such a stigma where those who've been focused on slavery. And so these learning tools,

Bevy and Dave is really trying to change that. We know what I went to and choosing here,

you know, black history, everything here. You know what I want to think of? I want to think,

oh my gosh, it's so exciting. I want them to have fun. It's so learned and know that it's

awesome and it's amazing. You know, I want people to, you know, just really show the joy.

And the only way that's going to happen is just we change the narrative. And so that's what

Bevy and Dave is doing, which, erudive, we're focusing on our contribution to society,

as a people. And we are bringing it in global, right? Our global contribution. So we're not

going to talk about a comprehensive state. So what have we done around the world? And

the beautiful part now is that Bevy and Dave has expanded to really include obviously

history on a constant of Africa and making sure that children on a constant of Africa also have

access to Bevy and Dave. We've expanded, we've got digital tools. We've got into animation now.

So obviously we just had, before we started out, we had the physical products, right? So we have

the toys, the puzzles, the games. We expanded into books since the last talk.

And we have animation now. We have the digital games, the traditional plays video games,

and you know, Varn Black 50s do that way. And so it's great. Now they also have access to

fun, you know, toys like the coloring pages and works. She's all kind of stuff to get them excited.

But the stories are told in such a beautiful way that there's no denying the greatness

of African people and what we have done. And so my hope is that children will love themselves.

And I'll do.