CFB Week 1 Chaos With Andy Staples, Western Michigan HC Lance Taylor, Who's Back Of The Week + Max Is Back From His Honeymoon With Gifts

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3:22Welcome to part of my take presented by draft Kings. The crown is yours today is Tuesday, September 8th and football is back and so is Max. The rare Tuesday pardon my take PFT. We do have a show tomorrow and Friday as well, but football is back PFT. We had what going into it, a week one that everyone's like, oh, there's no any. There's not a lot of marquee games and then we had chaos. And the last time we recorded, we recorded on Thursday afternoon, the chaos began right away with UMass beating Rutgers. Greg Siano might be honest, last night. That was a sad day for the birthplace of college football. Might be the deathplace of college football. That was just a shit pumping. Sad sad scenes in Piscataway. It wasn't just a situation where it's like, oh, plucky underdogs, wins with a walkoff field goal or something crazy happens. No, it was UMass just like kicking the shit out of Rutgers.

4:23I think I saw the stat. They were O and 12 last season did not score 21 plus on any FBS opponent. They scored 24 on the first four drives against Rutgers on Thursday night. They also are now the second biggest paycheck that a team has had to give to an opponent in a loss. 1.5 million dollars Rutgers paid UMass for UMass to come into Piscataway and win the football game. Only second to Auburn paying New Mexico State in 2023 and losing 3110. That's crazy. Jackie April is going to have a big purse to collect at the next benefit conference. That's going to be nuts. Yes. Oh, yeah. That was a tough day for Rutgers. I have no doubt that as a chanelman, you always bounce back. That sort of thing. Chop wood. Chop wood. You just got a chop. I think you got a chop harder. I don't think that they're chopping hard enough. But then we go from that to the book into the weekend. Florida State is playing right now as we're recording this show against SMU. They just kicked off.

5:25There's no clock in the stadium. The communication has to be via sign language from the sidelines. You would have been perfect for this. It was. It's an incredible theater. This is why we love college football because you get you get some premier matchups and there's massive budgets being spent on it by the biggest networks. And then sometimes it all comes down to the fact that somebody in Tallahasseh drove drunken to a transformer next to the stadium and now nobody can watch football. Zach, you never I never asked you this, but you did the sign language for Camp Rastool for the national anthem. How do you know sign language? I strictly know patriotic. So I only know the anthem. I asked Zach to learn the sign language for the national anthem. Okay, I thought it was like, oh, my cousin was deaf. And so I learned sign language at a young age. No, no, we can't do a small talk. But if they had patriotic signs on the sidelines, we could we communicate those. Okay, so yeah, we the chaos of college football. It was on full display at the big house on Saturday night. I'd say that was the biggest story. Western Michigan, which we have coach Lance Taylor on the show

6:28because we figured they should have gotten the shine. They basically won the game. And then there was a second left. And Michigan walks away. One and O, Bryce Underwood looked so bad, so, so bad. He is the quarterback for Michigan right now, according to Kyle Woodingham, which that has got to be the worst feeling ever. The right now is just the most loaded right now. It's saying everything. I saw a quarterback right now. I liked everybody. Matt at Dave for, like, getting Bryce underwood on campus. Yeah, that's the good and the bad that you have to take if you're Dave. And you've got Larry Ellison's money that's being spent. And then people blame you or applaud you for people that you get to sign with Michigan. Correct. But he looked like so overmatched from the get go from the there were some games last year where he looked awesome. Like he was worth every penny of the investment. There was somewhere he looked bad. This looked just as bad as any game that he played last year. Yeah. And this is why I was not super high on Michigan. Obviously, it's a long season. They could figure it out or they could switch quarterbacks, which it feels like

7:32could happen during the Oklahoma game this Saturday. But Michigan, I mean, Bryce Underwood just is mechanics everything. It just the offense like Western Michigan looked like the more physical team and kind of took it to him and that that interception at the end of the half. The first half was just so so bad. But they win. And I, as Matt is, I mean, we all were texting when it happened. It was shocking. I don't know if you guys had the same feeling. But when they put the second back on, I was like, this is only going to end in one way. And it just felt like it was going to happen. And uh, it just like you can't look Michigan won the game. There's like you can't go back and change it. Uh, I think we all felt like we were robbed in the moment, but which Michigan's won and oh, and you can't, you know, I mean, like it is what it is. Well, I, I learned about it because I was on Twitter and I tweeted something on the game. I forget what it was. Just some like normal observation about what a, what a terrible loss it was for Michigan. And then the timeline just started to fill with oh my god. Oh my god. Yeah. Because I think a lot of people out there, they,

8:34they had moved on from that game. Yeah. You see zero, zero on the clock. You see the, the coaches going out to midfield shake hands. And that caught me by surprise. There's nothing you can do about it now. Um, this does feel like it robbed all of it, especially robbed Western Michigan fans and, and obviously the, the actual team selves. But like being a student at that university and getting deprived of an all time party night, where it's like, this is the stuff, like Appalachian say, when they beat Michigan, yeah, in that game, what a, that's a night that they'll remember for the rest of their lives. Like anybody that roots for that team, it got, it got ripped away and it sucks and watching all the different camera angles. I understand. So the official explanation from the big 10, I understand what exactly what they're saying in that, uh, there is a secret clock that we did not get to see on TV. And on that secret clock, there was actually an extra second left. When you look at this one player jumping with his foot out of bounds at the back of the means on, and then probably touching the ball, that means that there's a second left. We can replay the down. The thing is like, we didn't know about the secret clock going into it. No. And

9:39they tell all the referees and every league. Now, this is according to Mike Pereira. They tell all the referees in the NFL and the UFL and his understanding in college football as well. If there is a discrepancy between what is being shown on TV and what you have in your own secret clock, go with the number that millions of people are looking at. So there's no conspiracy that gets developed by the scenes. They opted not to do that and go with the secret clock. And, uh, yeah, that's it's a bad way of doing things. It sucks. And it's, it's not even like the party night. It's Western Michigan as a program. They've never been a top 20 team. The, the way that like, uh, being a Western Michigan in a state with Michigan, it's, you know, they take up all the oxygen. They are the, the premier program, both nationally and statewide. So like the pride that you would get off of a win like that, it sucks. It sucks. I feel bad for the back. I feel bad for Western Michigan. But again, it's, it's kind of similar to the, uh, Saints Rams, NSE Championship game. Like,

10:41in the moment, you, everyone should be complaining. If it's two days later and you're still like, that's not right. I don't know. I don't know what to say. Like it's, we've, we've moved on. They're one and no. Yeah, but it's one and no. It was a little ridiculous putting out like the, the one and no like videos of them like celebrating on the field and stuff and Bryce, Bryce Underwood doing the, the, the, the jaw out. Like I just did that. Dude, you played like shit, the storming of the field by Michigan fans. That was, uh, it was an interesting choice. I understand that Michigan fans are probably excited. They went from losing to having like an improbable win. I get that. It was just, yeah, that time in a place, I guess. It didn't feel right in the moment. But yeah, it's, um, it's not going to change. But I also don't, I'm not going to blame Western Michigan fans if they do carry this grudge. Oh, yeah. For years like the Saints do. Yeah. Did you see the, uh, stat hole, stat hole sports stat? No. He's, he found 175 college football field storms since 2019. No team had a satire stormfield in Michigan as 27 and a half point

11:44favorites, uh, in, in the last 175 field storms. Yeah. Very sad. I'm sad. But they, this is a problem because I am very much pro pro field and court storming. But this one was, yeah, you can't, I mean, you can't do this one. You got to have a sense of the moment. As you say, they were 27 and a half point favorites. All right. All right. Would you guys think about the statement that the big 10 put out notably the font that they chose in the statement that they put out the goose bumps? Yeah. It looked like the back of a shitty book. Yeah. Or like a, like a, like a 1994 Brookheimer joint. Yeah. It was like a, a PR release from Stranger Things. And it happened after everyone went to bed. It was like one in the morning. I woke up and saw it and I was like, all right, fine. You guys came up with a a way to tell us this was fine. It's, I mean, it's bullshit. It is. No, I agree. The whole, like, if it was Western Michigan, if, if roles reverse, Western Michigan is not getting a second back on the clock. That's what I'm saying. And it's, it's technically, if everything they're telling us about the secret clock is true. It's technically the right call. That said, there's no chance in hell that

12:49they would have spent that much time trying to find a second for Western Michigan to throw another pass. Oklahoma, if they had the ball, there's zero chance. Oklahoma is, uh, is playing for not just Oklahoma, but they're playing for Kalamazoo as well on Saturday. Because like if Michigan somehow beat so called home, uh, then then it's like, fuck. This is what, what's going to happen here? Yeah, we're just going to start. And I, I do think they're probably going to change quarterbacks. The price underward is bet. It's, it's a crazy world because it is. It's so different now where it's like in the years past, you could bench a sophomore quarterback who sucks, but now it's like, hey, this sophomore quarterback, he paid $10 million. I mean, is there any amount of that, that, that's karma? Like is this the football gods rewarding Michigan for doing the right thing and moving on from a bad situation last year and saying, Hey, we're Michigan men. We're better than this. Strong more. You're out. You're out. You're out. We're at the second. We found out anything on toward what's happening. We, we moved on as Michigan men. You, you know, the, the small things add up and now you get smiled upon by the gods. Yeah. True. Kyle Wittingham looked like he

13:53was like almost apologetic after the game to land Taylor on the, on the field. I think part of that was like, Hey, I'm, wait, I'm coaching at a place that people will go out of their way to try to help you win. Yeah. Like that's crazy. Sick. All right. Other big stories. I mean, I don't know what you, which ones you guys want to hit. There's a bunch, but I thought like the impressive games. I mean, Georgia played nobody, but they were impressive. Texas played nobody. Ohio State with the pressure of senior night, winning against ball state was something special. That was, that was really, really nice. It was touching senior night. I didn't know this was happening until it, it was like occurring. This is crazy. Bio, Ohio State. Is it not like they're basically saying we don't want to have senior night be Michigan. Like just, why did you do it week one? Why not do it this second, the third or the last week of the season against Northwestern? Nothing is crazy to me anymore in college football, but that, but like to, to, you're basically saying we're scared of having it be the big game. I maybe it's that you don't want to make no sense. Maybe, maybe you don't

14:58want to have your seniors. Like it's not their night when it's also the biggest night that you have, the biggest day that you have. Yeah. Well, I think they said something like after the game, there's been situations where it's, you know, we had the incident a couple of years ago. Like, we don't want it to take away from the scene. It's just a crazy move. Ball state week one senior night. Yeah. We week one is crazy. I do understand what max. I think week one makes more sense than like the third to last week. Well, no, I mean, I'm saying like this. If you, if you're saying, hey, we can't do it for the Michigan game because it's just something that's just totally different and separate under itself. Do it the last home game before that, which would be Northwestern. Like, but senior night, though, should be, it should be cold weather. It should people should be in coats. Like you can't just senior night when it's 100 degrees out against balls. I think, I think it should be the Michigan game. It should be your last game on that field. Yes. But I think, I do think that there's more like, there's something more sentimental about your first game of your

15:58senior season. Against ball state. But it's still like that. This is the last season I'm going to be on this field means more than like the middle random game. It wouldn't be middle. It'd be the last second or last home game. Yeah. But that, that way you're, you're literally just saying I'm scared of doing it against Michigan. Well, they're still doing it now. But I think there's something more about going on to the field for your first game and your senior season than your middle of the back game. The nice thing about doing a week one is you everybody's healthy. And you will, like all the players are all like nobody's wearing like the the letterman jacket in a walking boot going out to where their parents. Yeah. They're all in good shape looking forward to the season. I mean, they were trying to twist it been like it's easier, easier game for all the parents to travel to come on. Why? Why would that be easier for them? Well, like because it's ball state. There's no, there's no like all the hotels are not taking up and shit. Right. I guess. But that, if you're, if you're starting to have that conversation, you've already lost in terms of the mental warfare. It's, it's very bizarre what's going on between the two teams because remember Kyle

17:00Wittingham said you don't have to hate your rival. Yeah. Are they still doing like it? Does it have to be a senior that's been there for longer than one year? I know for senior night. Or is it like a transfer can come in and they get senior night? I assume senior night at this point is just for the guys who aren't even playing. They're just the walk on. So we've been there in the program for four or five years. Yeah. If you've been in the same program now in Cosfipo for five years, there's a reason. Yeah. Okay. Oregon looked not great against Boise. That might be more credit to Boise being tougher than we thought. But that was, that was a game that was, you know, like, oh shit. There were, you know, there was a couple games that everyone was like, Oh man, what's going on here? Michigan, obviously, it was a big one. The Oregon Boise State game was, was a big one. Baylor Auburn was one of the worst watches possible, except I mean, the end was exciting. And that tackle at the goal line was incredible. But that game was tough to watch. Yeah. Also, kind of like weirdly fun in a way. No, I thought that it wasn't fun at all for like the majority of it. It was really bad. There was just Byron Brown had three interceptions. It was, it was,

18:04it was like, it was exciting for the last like three minutes. I like some good bad football sometimes though. This was really bad. It's still football. It's what I tell myself. Yeah, I thought more look really good for Oregon. I thought, you know, despite the fact that they struggled a little bit, I thought he played awesome. There should be a lot of people excited about him. Boise State, I do think it's a difference. Like Boise State is just a good team. Yeah, they're, they're one of the best. Yeah, and there's an Oregon's going into it. Like, there's got to be something we said for just coming into a season with like all the pressure in the world. And everyone been like, you're the most loaded roster. You feel like you can't make mistakes. Yep. We had Miami do the opposite word. Malachi Tony was just had the nerds and hell had Stanford guys tackling each other. They look so fucking good. I know it's Stanford. So we don't know. Like we, after week one, you can't really make any definitive claims. But Malachi Tony is just so much fun to watch. So, so much fun to watch. Wisconsin got fucking buried in the second half against Notre Dame. Notre Dame looks really good. I thought they came out and like, I was very

19:06excited for the first half because it was the first time I've seen the Badgers look physical like that. The Punt in the fourth quarter was was was troubling and depressing. That part that part bummed me out when you're down 21 and you're punting. It's like, dude, just we just got to go for it. But that one like offensive weapon Punt that they had earlier than they got. Oh, it's best that's that's classic big 10 football. Incredible Punt was like a 65 yard Punt down 80 yard Punt downed inside the one yard line. It took a crazy bounce. Yeah, I was I'm excited. I would say I walked away from the game against Notre Dame being more excited for the season than I've been in years past after the first couple of weeks. But still realizing like there's just such a different level to what the top five 10 teams are playing at versus where my team is at right now. And that's okay. We just got to keep building. But at least we're physical and we stopped the run for a half. The other one was the LSU just absolutely took Clemson in the wood shed and we're going to talk

20:07about it more with Andy. But dabbo is I don't know what you do now. Like he's this is this is rock bottom for Clemson. This is a this is a team that just a few years ago was was beating the best teams in college football in a regular basis. Like they were the best team in college football. Yeah, best coach team some of the best recruiting. dabbo was arguably the top coach in college football is like him Nick Saban for a few years there. It's like they had some battles back and forth and Clemson had their number a little bit. And now it seems like dabbo is just I don't I don't know something something's got to change. It was it was it was pathetic. Would they they could not move the ball. They they just had I mean the fact they were up three nothing obviously from a tip interception to start the game. But Lane Kiffin had a hell of a day. He's if you I gotta say this and I know that we're bias because we like Lane Kiffin. We like LSU. If you can't like sit back and laugh about Lane Kiffin just being the greatest troll in college football, which is a sport that

21:11is like perfect for trolls and perfect for drama. Like starting the day doing the Tiger Walk with Theo Vaughn and Livy Dunn and who is the other person Brooks Nader. Yeah. Throne a marker off a kids head. You see that. You see him signing the football just scribbling and just tossing it back at him. Then saying imagine if we had NFL players to Holly Road halftime then fucking you know yelling at his team at halftime being like we're not taking our foot off the gas and fucking screaming at them and winning 51 to 10. He's perfect for college football. You can't you you can't like not love what Lane Kiffin brings to college football. If you want some some drama, some quotes, some realness. He is all of that and he coach. He's a really goddamn good coach and he beat the fuck out of Clemson. Do you think that Lane Kiffin was actually going to get NFL players on the roster? Do you think that's something that he wanted to do? Yes. You do? Because the court ruled in his favor and he said, uh, no, I'm not going to do it for this game.

22:13Well, yeah, but the SEC was threatening them. So that's why they didn't do it. Um, I think Lane Kiffin is the type of guy who will is maniacal and will look for any edge until he's told he can. Which I don't know how you can blame him for that. Like he's he's going to push the boundaries as far as they possibly can go. Then the SEC comes in and says, if you do this, we're going to kick you out of the league and he's like, all right, fine, I won't do it. But like, but yes, he hadn't said that. He probably would have done it. I also think that after they said that and then the ruling came after he was he liked the idea that other coaches might be preparing for some of those guys. Right. And of course, he wasn't like going to give that up. Um, but yeah, he's obviously a great coach. Great. He and people forget like LSU Lane Kiffin can run the football. Like this score is short load of points. Um, but LSU's running game this year so far looks to be like a massive improvement over how you remember what game was it last year? We were Brian Kelly was like, oh, we couldn't run the football. Well, then you last last one. You didn't watch the last series then.

23:15Yeah, where it was a, you know, basically game over and just kind of run the clock out. Um, but yeah, LSU, they are, I think with the way that Sam Levit played, you have to imagine they are definitely a team that can win the national championship. But to answer your question about Lane Kiffin, like what if Bell check did this in the pros, everyone would be like, that's just Bell check out smarting him. Like he's just a guy looking for edges. And until you tell him you can't do that, he's going to keep doing it, which I kind of respect. He's like, I'm going to push the ball. I'm going to do it until someone says I can't. And then when they say I can't find I won't, but I'll make a joke about it. And I like that. Uh, all right. What other we had the apple cup, which was depressing the fact that apple cup played in the first week of the season, Washington, Washington state, you know, they, they, they were struggling, but they stayed in the game. And that, you know, having any type of rivalry game, I just hope that it stays. Um, I'm trying to think what other games, oh, Ole Miss, Ole Miss just continues. They basically just did an extension

24:17of their playoff run in that they were just playing the most exciting ridiculous games. Yeah. Cause the first half was boring. And the second half was just like, Oh, we forgot, we're going to play in a shootout. And Louisville was game for the shootout back big play back and forth. And they went, went with a walkoff field. You know, let's get our ass against the wall and then see what Trinidad can do. Right. That was kind of, and it's like watching a playoff game right now. You know, that's an awesome way to play football. And I love watching it. Yeah. All right. I'm trying to think what other, any other, uh, Penn State look good. Uh, by the way, Max, do we, oh, James Franklin and apology for it seems to me that James Franklin was doing a pretty good job of not bending the knee to all the Penn State alum being like we need to be celebrating Jopah. Because the Jopah stuff is back. And if it doesn't, it feels like not a coincidence, it's when James Franklin left. I don't know anything about the Jopah stuff. Oh, okay. What's your statement on

25:22Jopah? Uh, you've never addressed. Oh, no. Oh, no. Now the Jen Franklin's gone. You can feel free to speak your mind. I don't, I don't know what we're talking about. Yeah. You know what's going, you don't know what's going on. This is exactly what got Jopah. Yeah. I don't know what that is. You told me about it. You said you didn't know. I have nothing to do with anything. He told Hank. He told Hank his opinion and then Hank did not forward that to us. So I don't, I don't know your what's going on. What's going on? What is that? There's a man. There's a Jopah, like interactive experience now that has been debuted. They also had just putting on a blindfold. Yeah, they did a, uh, the, the new state. I think they did a renovation at Beaver Stadium and section 409 is a different color than all the other ones. Signifying his 409 wins. Uh, it just feels like James Franklin maybe was doing a good job being like, Hey, guys, we, we got to, we got to stop with the Jopah stuff. Let's look forward here. Yeah. Matt Campbell's like, Hey, you have money.

26:24Oh, you need me to just say Jopah was, was right. Okay. Fine. You know, I got you. Would that be, would that be the ultimate piece of memorabilia to acquire here at Barst was set before the Jopah. I want you. I want the Joe plus. Yeah, putting it in the front. The, the conversations you'd have to have afterwards would be so awkward. Like, imagine PCA walks in. He's like, is that, is that Joe paternal? Like, that's the statue. He probably walks back out, but at least it would be a fun interaction. We should get him and we should have him just, uh, facing the wall. So he's always looking the other way. Yeah. Yeah. Send it to us. They won't. That's going back. No, it's, it's 100% going back up. I would, I would love to, I would love to make a bet on that. It's some, it is going back up. It is going back. I think it, I think they've been in 10 years. It'll go back. I'd say five. I'm willing to, I'm willing to say more than five, less than 10. Will you be

27:28visiting it? I mean, I'll go to, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I won't be like seeking it out, but I'm sure, but you, will you, will you have eyes on the Joe Paws statue at some point in your life? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm willing to, I'm willing to say 100%. It's crazy is that, uh, Max and Hank's, we are video was really the catalyst that got James Franklin fired, which might be the reason why the statue comes back. That, that video doesn't even exist. Max brought back the Joe Paws statue. You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, man. That's a look good though. Yeah, they did. They did. It takes me four weeks to know the players on, it's, it's too hard. It's too hard. It's tough. And it's also like, again, week one outside of like a couple of games, everyone should look good. That's what week one is for. Everyone should show up and look good. Colin coward has USC is the number one team in the country now. Does he? After beating Fresno, and San Jose State. Yeah, two, two big foes. Two, two and

28:33oh, seen enough. I do think USC is going to be pretty good. Yeah. I also, I will say the Alabama's quarterback is electric. I watched some of that game and he is, he is, I know his ECU, so who knows if like the speed difference button from from from the first from the first looks of it, I was like, yes, I'm in. Did you use a college football quarterback? You see Tennessee and their, their new tradition that I hope they're starting. I think it might be just a one off, but I think they're going to make it all season long. What is it? Dolly Parton. I think it's either half-tonner before the fourth quarter. Everybody in the stadium sings, I will always love love that. That is cool. It's pretty cool. I like that. Yeah. That is cool. That'd be funny if they're getting just smoked. Yeah. That's tough. That'd be tough. That actually, yes. That'd be great. Yeah. I mean, listen, I, like, I'm at the point now where I think the badgers have to like stop jump around until we like start winning games because like when you jump around and you're down 20, it's not fun. That's not

29:34a fun thing to do. It's a fun jump. You just need to, you need to have time in place with some of these things. Yeah. It's like if it's a one-score game, let's fucking go. If it's a blowout, it's hard to jump around. It just is. You just got to be honest with it. I was at Tennessee. This is probably 2015. They lost a big game early in the year against Notre Dame and there was like, double or triple overtime. The scene on campus after, like because you know, when everyone sings rock it up, you like have to sing along if you're a Tennessee fan and it was like at bars. People, it was the funniest, saddest, like good old rock top. It was, it was so, so sad funny. The saddest, the saddest rock you thought that but people couldn't, couldn't not sing it. Yeah. I mean, everyone was just so defeated. I have those traditions that start before the fourth quarter. You're right. You get into some, you can find yourself in a sad spot, like if the Steelers play a sad renegade. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and then you then you run the risk of kind of losing the magic of that

30:34song the first correct. Like all other times that you played in a close game, you're just reminded of a time that you were getting your ass kicked. Yeah. The swamp don't back down if you're getting just smoked. Yeah. You're backing down. Yeah. Big time. It's good to have college football back memes. You, you spend all weekend glued to the television. Do you have any other things that we miss? Because I love that memes. I know you didn't. Did you leave your house on Saturday? On Saturday. No. Oh, love that. Sunday. Sunday. I got married. Fucking love that. It was the perfect weather all weekend. Perfect. Like legit. Like, like, like Sunday might have been the best weather day ever. Yeah. And today was pretty good to do. Yeah. So what, what did you, uh, any, any other big, big notes? Uh, no other big notes. I thought it was just a loss for the big 10 overall. I wasn't that impressed with it. Yeah. I mean, Oregon struggled and Michigan. Like that was those are two notable big 10 didn't look great. But based on every preview we had, I thought it was just top to bottom. They were going to smoke everybody. Yeah.

31:37That didn't happen. SEC went undefeated, uh, for the first time since I'm not sure, but SEC's bad. As a good stat. Good stat. He's been really good stat from the first time since I don't know when since probably a long time, probably a long time. Good stat. That's a really, really good stat. Do you see six handshake by the way? Still the same. Yep. Dead fish. Yeah. Never chance to overlook like a, I mean, that's football guy who's just leaking blood everywhere. Yeah. That was cool. We were down in Bloomington. The fans were, were pumped. That was awesome to see. UCLA late game. Yeah. That was great. I love watching. Um, uh, how do you say his name? Sac Patelli? Yeah. Um, from Cal. He's a fun quarterback to watch. And that was just a great game between a Cal and UCLA after dark. Uh, yeah, you just, you can just say JKS. Yeah. JKS. Mm hmm. Sac Patelli. Um, but yeah, that was, it was a great, great day of college football. It really was. It's, it's, it's perfect. I'm so glad that it's back. I hope we don't get ever

32:38get to a point where, um, cause I think this probably is going to happen with the NFL eventually going to 18 games. Is it, is it next year? No, they didn't say it. I hope we don't get to a point though that NFL goes on Labor Day weekend because I do love that we get to get back into football with just all eyes on college football for one weekend. Yeah. It was nice. It was great. It eases back in and we have more football with all the football in front of us right now. It did feel weird having LSU not lose that game in heartbreaking fashion though. Yeah. That's only one last year against Clemson. It just seemed that's true. Yeah. That was, that was one, we're last year. It's like, what a good game. Maybe both these teams will be great. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, let's do a quick Adry. Then we'll talk about other things going on in the sports world. Uh, draft Kings. The weight is over football is here and so is draft Kings. The draft Kings sports app is now live in all 50 states. That means from Texas to California to Florida. Every fan is in on the excitement and this September draft Kings is giving customers the opportunity to get boosted

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34:43time offer we have NFL coming Wednesday hangar you ready so ready so excited we're going to be streaming Wednesday and Thursday Wednesday's PMT we have Peter Schrager and Camp Scataboo on and we are going to do our picks to as well for the NFL season and then Friday show will be our our regular week one preview so we're ready locked and loaded and we also got some NFL news today to attack the ball is going to be the starter for the Falcons okay great Michael Pennick said he's close though he's close so close great I said it's close is he like three days worth of close he's just said he's close okay I hope he's like really I hope he's closer than he thinks get closer closer and closer I said at at the uh what's that headlight which one oh that was why he's trending okay brable move on with the fall ripples around the NFL who wrote that story oh is that a is Don Van Nata no it's been strapped so you never want to see

35:48the Don Van Nata joy no you're always in trouble if Don Van Nata is reporting on you um I two are starting is that the most like I guess the Sean would also be a very uh free give up yeah there really isn't much to get you pumped I liking the two because everyone's seeing right now shout out to AWLs who tweeted us they did uh to decide their fantasy draft order they did a cigarette race who can smoke a cigarette fast enough or faster and that was cool but we see a lot of the fantasy punishments having to start to like announce to is your starter to to begin an NFL season in 2026 that feels like a fantasy punishment wait if you're uh you still fancy yeah like he losses like he losses like he won't like all right dude still fanski hear your options you can sit in McDonald's for 24 hours or you can start to yeah for every interception that he throws it takes an hour off have fun or waffle house he's in Atlanta now I don't know if two of two of maybe like throws one touchdown to Kyle Pitts I'll

36:49probably be all the way back the left hand it's not me oh he just has to do one cool thing and I'm like fuck man this guy I'm a I'm a two a non through and through that's it just seems like that was he waited to the last second just hoping against hope that there'd be a magical advancement and medical technology yeah he'd be able to start pinnocks pinnocks um goodell was extended really happy for the guy it's gonna run till he's like 70 probably getting paid 70 million dollars a year what is his salary now uh 65 mil and what he's gonna be getting that is so much fucking money yeah okay okay so this um so he gets paid more than the highest paid quarterback yes it's gonna run through March 31st 2031 at that point cadet will have 25 seasons as commissioner under his belt and he will be 72 years old how is he a billionaire gotta be probably not I don't think so because how much money was he making well how long has he been he's been commissioned for 25 years you said yeah well at the end he will be he was making 40 million I think so I think he's

37:55around 20 seasons all right so but you forget big cat since he's involved in sports there's taxes true all right so he's not a billionaire not a billionaire unless he has secret out of a broke boy unless he has secret equity that'd be that'd be crazy if cadet l state commissioner long enough that he became richer than all the owners and just did a fucking uno reversal ends as a commissioner and buys a team yeah he's like gotcha boys oh Jerry Jones they get a push me around guess what read what you've been paying me for the last 50 years maybe I'm a billionaire now so so Jerry just said the other day there's no succession plan in place okay one day he won't show up that'd be very funny if wait for Jerry or good now for Jerry okay yeah uh if if Jerry just passes the cowboys down to good now that would be very funny that also that's that's got a sock being one of Jerry Jones's kids being like that could you just at least say it say it and then you can say it so we don't have to fight over it change the will yeah yeah he just gives it Tony Roma

38:57yeah that would be cool that would be great to like my the son I never had yeah you made it Tony thank you wish why Steven I wish you could throw the ball like Tony um okay other other other oh James got a two-year deal congrats james pump for him he's uh he how many games james wins are going to play to this year not rooting for injuries not only but realistically realistically I would say um I'm gonna put james down for three starts I was gonna say three as well three starts would be good which will be fun the league is a better place when james is starting football it truly is and I also think that james right now should be the first call that anybody makes if they have a starter a non-tua starter yeah um that they need actually think about that big cat james on the Falcons that would be cool think how fun that would the fanski could know how to use they got like all first round picks anyways that would be fucking awesome get james down there that would be so sick from the south the uh did you guys see the clip of kowshan hand not understanding time zones yeah we

39:58should play that clip because it's uh it's very relatable extremely relatable this is a conversation that it sounds like we've had on this exact podcast numerous these he's in absolute hell right now trying to figure out what day it is also thoughts and prayers to Raheem Morris he lost his birthday yeah that was tragic so Raheem Morris I don't know why chef tweeted this chef to tweeted this in the middle of the day he said 49ers defensive coordinator Raheem Morris turned 50 years old Thursday September 3rd it also happened to be the day the 49ers flew to Australia leaving Wednesday night September 2nd and arriving Friday morning September 4th local time the 49ers lost the day but Morris lost his 50th birthday dang so he's still a 49er fuck that's a fun fact yeah it does shifter should have thrown that in there at the end yeah forever 49 forever 49ers always you never never happen I don't I don't think I wish them happy birthday because I think I knew yeah you did know you absolutely knew I was all over Raheem Morris's birthday Raheem Morris should get a he

41:03should go to jade york and be like hey man uh I love this team so much I'm not gonna do my 50th birthday also honestly that's what were you what were you trying to do that's probably good for him yeah tell me what you were gonna do yeah were we trying to do it he's power time I'll get I'll trade you my birthday my 50th birthday for the real deal look we're kind of whole we're trying to get in their coach um yeah I think uh I think Kyle is just as confused about whether or not they made the right choice to go to Australia as we are yeah and uh I think my my angle on this game stays the same and that's I think that the 49ers will win this game because they care about it and I think the Rams will lose this game because they don't care about it and they'll go back and then the Rams will be much better in the next next couple weeks than the nonters yeah all right play the clip when I look at my clock and it says the time and then I try to see my family's time and then this says the time but it says yesterday I don't even get how that's possible um so I feel like I'm in the future and then also when we play on our Friday which I think's the Thursday in the US for

42:04such creatures of habits so I call today Tuesday or no wait so I call today Wednesday um which is the first day we put in a game plan but I think it's Monday however though it's Sunday and the present so like I'm gonna mess that up all week if you guys ask me but today is just our first day of the game plan which is a Wednesday and we'll put in some month Thursday Fridays the final part of the game plan Saturday we walked in when we play on Sunday which is a Friday in Australia and a Thursday and on the US so and you're said every day and you're telling me people listen to this podcast like that's what we sound like Max also had this happen to him in Italy so he's gonna he reminded me that he was on uh and he said sender send times on the wire you know it's crazy is that I I kind of through listening to us have the same conversation I think I followed exactly along oh yeah with what Kyle Shanahan said yeah I think I actually got it and he was saying no good for us of you Hank this is what you wanted no it's not yeah it is yeah it is how you grow

43:09in the game yeah I mean you got to figure out time zones I got it I don't know no no you you have time zones here we have we have I still struggle with our time zone four times four times four times plus a Y I was a three we got Hawaii we don't really do not forget about the mountain time it just doesn't really that's only a half a year it's Denver it's just if there's not that many people in Arizona doesn't even do it yeah see fuck that well they do it yeah we're not getting that we're not gonna have that conversation remember when we had like an hour long conversation about whether or not Arizona count as a West Coast team because there was some team that was like undefeated against West Coast teams yeah well the half it yeah congratulations we're in Australia I hope they love it they're not gonna care about it in a week when everybody leaves and then those teams are gonna come back to the United States and they're gonna feel like they're living in Russia so

44:11great grow grow in the game yeah grow in the game by the way we just got our tingers only update Zach you still are in last you're in second now I know that's a problem good jump though Devers had six home runs so Zach is in last max your 10 ahead is Zach Hank is run away with it run away great ball ball no yeah Jersey Jerry just has been in this league for three years still doesn't understand the rules so he's just text and I've I've had two players out since 726 and 727 requesting to add two players in a D a D H and left fielder you can only add one we all know that or one plus pedophile rule so by the way how is thinking Joe Pa where would he be in tingers only max allowed what no you couldn't drop him no you could you can drop him for sure I got a dumb question you can't now you should say that we can't drop him but he was removed due due to but but now we're saying

45:15yes it was that like baseball now we're saying bad remind me I have a dumb question I can't remember if this was a conversation we had maybe a year ago or if it was on the act at all but it's all one song but I was at the zoo with my son on Sunday and the baby rhino at the link of parks who has gotten too big no longer baby kind of fucking gross are we just pedophiles for bait for animals we are no no I mean puppies but you don't want to fuck them no but you we all think that the baby animals are cuter than the adult animals people love babies yeah that's true but we don't think that like bait I don't know it's true across all species I think you're the children of like any animal they're cuter no but like a system a six month old people say a baby's cute babies all look the same people just say it because they have to say it you see a fucking puppy you see a baby rhino a little little little pig me hippo those things are cute be don't a fuck like a no I know but I'm saying we we all we all are like like the baby animals more

46:19than the adult animal I also think with animals you know that a baby one can't kill you true but the adult ones I just just stupid thought I had but yeah I don't think I don't think it's the same as like bait actual babies because like again all babies six month old baby looks the same across the board people just have to say oh that's go I did that this weekend I saw there was a I was at a barbecue there was a two month old baby I was like oh it's so cute no it was like some baby it was a fucking baby some babies are ugly yeah but they're but like go off most like aliens yeah kids are cute when they start saying funny things not when they're like little blobs two month old blobs you know like well that's so cute you have to say it for social you know graces you think there's ugly babies yeah for sure there's ugly I think there's I think there's like standard baby and then they're like standard cute baby and then there's there's there's replacement level baby there's zero war baby and then there's Kyle I know what you're saying of like there's cute baby like cute baby's across the board and then there's like oh not cute baby yeah I think it's I think it's

47:22normal baby and outlier baby yeah yeah yeah and outlier baby like the normal baby is like the Gerber baby yeah the logo baby yeah that's a little round cheeks that's what a day that's your standard baby yeah yeah I just I was hardbroken the baby Rhino yeah he's like he's probably like 600 pounds now it's just not it's not the same yeah get over yourself get over yourself Rhino yeah okay should we oh dude don't get don't get the riders in the room going about red Rhino yeah what's he up to it's probably he's gonna be at the next surviving bar school right yeah okay do we have any other sports stories going on before we do who's back a week where we'll probably hit some more trying to think that just that hot dog bun video from Toronto was sick put it all like that that's all I got yeah that was awesome yeah it's pretty good that was a very cool moment in dumb sports history is pretty good UNC football under big microscope right now yeah what's going on there so yeah Hank

48:28oh there's just a internal investigation going on for what uh inappropriate relationships between staffers staff members potential drug use from some of the coaches it's all being investigated it's not on I don't I don't uh Steve Bell check is left the team oh Michael Barney he's still there Michael Barney has left the team there's investigation they're wanting to know they're wanting to know yeah just that should be the boilerplate answer want to know what kind of drugs they say he did weed weed oh come on what are we doing I don't know I don't know I don't know it's it's not you know that's crazy is aren't haven't been specified is it actually we that's the rumor where did you hear that rumor day Portnoy okay okay unbiased yeah do you think that if it's we talking weed how did he find out if it's weed I say no harm no foul that's a crazy thing to be investigating for weed

49:28what if it's something worse than who knows that's why they're doing more worse or better in both yeah I think it'd be better cooler yeah not cooler or like more potent maybe he's just really really excited that their quarterback looks awesome like MVP level and so maybe that's why he can happen to do the other drugs could happen to anyone also somebody sent me the the clip from when Bella check get hired any brought Steve on as his defense coordinator that that episode apart my take yeah it's where it's an interesting conversation why it's just interesting what do we say it's just an interesting conversation what do we say we just talked a little bit about what nepotism is what it isn't do you see the the they're trying to shame the what what rounder we at in the US open 16 they were trying to shame the two the two women who are billionaire daughters it's

50:29tennis it's tennis they're like all both of them are matched up like they're both like fathers were billionaires it's tennis they still have to be really good you're gonna win like yeah of course they probably had actually no I actually think it's the opposite if you if you had like endless amounts of money you and you're like dad I'm not doing tennis anymore I'm not why would I do tennis anymore I'm I'm gonna get all your money when you die also not to be like you know judgmental but like you assume a billionaire like probably not the most athletic genes correct right and that just means that she's got that dog in it yeah but it's harder to get it's like you know doing roadwork and silk pajamas it's hard to get hard to find that hunger when you're a billionaire's daughter so credit to that yeah all right let's do uh who's back the week then we have two great interviews we talked a lot more college football with Andy Staples and then we have western Michigan head coach Lance Taylor and are you gonna do our fantasy football for who's back or would do it at the end I can do it for who's back okay yeah all right so we got our fantasy football results from Gerry O'Connell drafting

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52:40interview with a special guest brought to you by the farmers dog so go right now get 50% off your first box at the farmers dog calm slash PMT and see how real food can be a game changer for your dog who's back the week is brought to you by your friends a twisted T football season is back it's a moment we've all been waiting for football seasons back in full swing which means we'll be posted up with an ice cold T until further notice twisted T's are refreshing hard ice T made with real brewed T and 5% alcohol the twisted T party pack has a little something for everyone with original half and half raspberry and peach whether you're tailgating at the stadium crushing teas in your man cave or grilling out with your friends twisted T is there to turn your day up and not to make a good time a great time grab a refreshing twisted T today we love twisted T we love the lemonade the half and half the original keep it twisted with twisted T grab a refreshing twisted T today Henry who's back the week I was back the week speaking of dogs is Peter Herbstreet

53:41oh yeah yeah big time back big time back uh you know you you a lot a lot of negative press honestly I feel like the you know two years ago a lot of positive press last year a lot of negative press and then this year they they came out with a an entire Peter Herbstreet pop-up merch shop why do they call it a pop-up uh good good question good idea yeah I don't think they were they they're not thinking like for charity was it for charity I'm asking because you're taking a align here of uh I'm just saying he's back I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not making a judgment one way or the other was it for sure I'm nearly just you know delivering news as is my job to say who's back the week it's college football's back Peter Herbstreet is so back that they they had an entire pop pop-up uh shop for Peter Herbstreet merch for all the Peter Herbstreet fans in Baden Rouge do you think that uh that Kirk Herbstreet only wants male dogs hmm probably yeah think he makes his dogs do a handstand that's what I was saying he might be shaking dogs upside

54:43down right after they're done you know it's there in heat was it for charity I don't know I'm just the way you're asking that I'm assuming it was I think it was yeah so he's back so charity's back yeah so Peter Herbstreet is back and he's helping charities love that great good news uh also Nathan fielders back yeah yeah Nathan outweights uh documentary trailer he was with Theranos what's your name Elizabeth Elizabeth Holmes for three months before she went to prison and then they continued it while she was in prison the documentary trailer was like scary yeah I thought it was fake it was like it was just them you know very close intimately like face-to-face uh talking about how she was like she would never deceive them it was it I can't wait to see it apparently there's there's a there's a twist in it that is uh such a major plot point to the movie that in the movie they ask people that have seen it not to reveal to anybody else what the plot twist is yeah I'm so

55:46excited was it did he goes on their side maybe Tony kills Christopher I know they said there's a there's a uh cameo that they don't want people to reveal yeah yeah surprise people so much but yeah looks awesome that's exciting I even see that that that part of the news yeah that's exciting very excited but yeah I've never seen a documentary in theaters but I think this is probably the first one all right I think if I see a documentary I think I have I saw hoop dreams I saw oh actually what was the outgore one incognito truth incognito truth I thought that was like a movie and I went and saw my mom was like this is this was that was not what I was expecting from that point on hank hated the environment I I remember watching march of the penguins yeah I think that it was gonna be like a like a nice movie about penguins and it was not and I was pissed yeah I saw my dad maybe see uh when we were kings the Muhammad Ali documentary that was a good dad move by him in in the theaters Fahrenheit 9-11 so that in theaters oh yeah yeah Michael Moore bowling for

56:51Columbine as well okay good who's back thank you good you's back Hank thanks my other who's back the week in addition to the fantasy review we're about to do is dogs also dogs and Peter Herb Street not Peter Herb Street uh Philly the Philly dogs yeah the Philadelphia the Fluffy water dogs we're back Fluffy water dogs beat Boston the summer of Hank losing continues wait what round are we in uh that was a semi finals fuck yeah so finals we're back in the finals we're back in the finals now it gets when is that Denver uh it's on good question I believe it's on NFL week one Sunday okay we now have an extra TV we do yeah so who knows oh wait no no Sunday September 20th it looks like oh so week two the outlaws versus the water dogs okay so Fluffy uh Philadelphia water dogs get beaten again but he's like yeah your dog's got yeah yeah uh my other who's back the week is going to be Jerry

57:52O'Connell and fantasy football so Jerry completed his fantasy football draft today uh he sent me the entire lineup he said I am ashamed I had a bad bad draft why apparently he did the draft from a McDonald's on their Wi-Fi and the Wi-Fi was going out because other people were streaming there what he what does that mean oh he's trying to keep the draft he didn't want to tell his family where he was I think he's snuck out and he's like I'm gonna be going for a while I've got meetings this is all he has and then he went to do his fancy football draft at McDonald's uh so here's that's crazy apparently what happened now this is explanation um because you will see that the running back room is thin at best for us he said that uh he messed up he took Lamar and AJ he thought David Montgomery or Travian would suffice I messed up he did not realize that Travian Henderson was injured to the point where he might not be starting so here's a starting lineup quarterback Lamar Jackson

58:55okay he said he was gonna go for Lamar yeah two running backs pre-shaul Travian Henderson okay AJ Brown receiver term torn receiver okay uh Travis Kelsey tight end what's cd lamb flex evan McPherson kicker Jack I mean cd lamb is the is the best receiver we've got yeah I mean I guess you could you could bounce those around yeah and then uh Jaguar's defense and evan McPherson as the kicker on her bench this is where it gets kind of ugly we got uh tape at receiver from Tennessee carnalty he's questionable right now Thomas Brian Thomas Jr. uh Jacksonville there's zero running backs on this macaie lemon we we drafted him to we drafted Chris a lot of wide receivers a lot of receivers we drafted Chris Rodriguez from the from the commanders and he's like third or fourth string running back okay he's got it yeah we have uh Woody marks from Houston and uh other backup to Ron Tracy from the giants another backup but we have wide receivers to trade we have so many wider so you have any other other tight end except Travis Kelsey uh no no that's the only

1:00:00tight end that that appears that we have he's actively trying to trade Lamar and AJ for scatter boo and pickens the real loser in this is everyone else in the league because Jerry Jerry drafted a completely lopsided roster so he's gonna have to make a lot of trades so he's gonna have to text a lot of people there's been one other development that I did not realize until about an hour ago I was trying to see what Jerry's bench was so I logged on to the fantasy app because I've had access as a co-manager in years past uh Jerry has locked me out of our team oh no oh no oh Jerry's taking over our team like he I'm the captain now is what he did and I cannot I've got no access to it I can't see your scoreboard I can't see your trade requests I can't see anything going on I'm now fully reliant on Jerry's hands on actually fine on Jerry to just tell us what's going on no it's fine he's not going to give us this straight dope yeah we gotta get in there I gotta get back you gotta get back in there oh we see the results no we won't no I'm saying we

1:01:02we I mean we will eventually you can ask anyone who's like anyone else in the uh league to show us the results but then they'll know our team is fractured I think they could know right now that our team is fractured I mean what we're dealing with right now is we have we have a hostile that took it over yeah what if Jerry comes in last I don't want to think about that I don't want to think about I actually I should there be some sort of punishment if he yeah I'm gonna defend Jerry here I as bad as the roster might look right now I do think he's got enough to make some like there's some teams out there that have no wide receiver we're loading at receiver well because we have carnell tape who else Brian's and who else on our our bench there's some upside on the on the bench and receiver right there is like we're gonna be able to trade some we're gonna be able to flip some of these receivers mcci lemon mcci I mean they have we got we got receivers for days someone's gonna need a receiver and we're gonna we're gonna be there the tight end position makes me a little nervous I don't think but everyone sucks a tight end we have one starting running back

1:02:07that's a problem that's a big problem that is a big problem Hank what do you think about Anderson I think he's gonna be I think I'll I think I'll come back okay come back strong all right so them we're good as reported by Hank yeah okay we got a well usually it's like you have a couple warning backs you don't need to worry about you're injured running back in first week at the seas yeah I'm I'm also just concerned and years past Jerry and I have been co-managers and this one I got in this does feel like a direct shot I got an email saying that I've been removed as owner he's gonna blame the mcci l's wife by the commissioner yeah I don't know what Jerry maybe he can answer me what what happened with that one how do we not get better wife I for something that we build all year for I mean his wife I always sucks that's true yeah he matter no matter where he is his wife I never he's got he lives in Hollywood he could go to one of his like rich guy friends that probably has like the best starlink or something he does usually

1:03:07go to like a creek somewhere to film his appearances on part of my take yeah all right I'm excited I think Jerry's got enough to work with I think it's not as bad as we thought when I saw the tweets about the disaster he's just gonna have to now like sometimes when you play fantasy you draft your team and you just forget about it he's gonna have to get to work the work starts and I think that Jerry loves the work yeah right so he might have done this on purpose he put himself in a corner just so he can fight his way out of it just doing get out of life yeah that's where I want Jerry fight your way out of the corner Jerry are my who's back the week uh is burgers because I completed the challenge 101 burgers this summer the I have a I have a incredible life dream job like incredible family all you guys uh this and everything I've accomplished in my life this is by far the least consequence rule dumbest and regrettable thing that I've ever done I had to explain this to someone

1:04:13at a barbecue yesterday and they're like why are you eating 100 burgers is like well I'm doing it as like a challenge or like oh what do you get I was like nothing and I didn't I challenged myself because I had one weekend even more no day where I was like damn I love cheeseburgers I really regret this the only thing I've gained from this is that I will get significantly less sympathy when my eventual heart attack happens as mean Hank what do you say also probably not true what do you say 20 pounds no no actually I I stayed pretty consistent because all I ate was burgers that I did I grilled them I didn't eat them out like with french fries so I think that burgers on the whole are not unhealthy yeah it's the french fries yeah do you in I don't know why I did this I really was the best burger best and worst donny made some incredible ones I had a couple that were just not very good at like golf courses and stuff what is the perfect amount of burgers to eat in the summertime I would say probably 40-ish yeah that sounds about right I was I would say 40-ish

1:05:15yeah it's how many hot dogs are gonna do next year next year we're gonna do a thousand hot dogs that was it was funny that Zach was like what foods did you miss out on with all these burgers and honestly it was I was just like hot dogs I I think I had like two hot dogs all summer I had no steak no hot dogs you can't you can't waste burger time there's so many good meals I know I know so I'll never you told me you had a cheese steak and you were upset I was mad there's no I had an unbelievable cheese steak shout out Dr. Dan's brother who brought him for us the man it was an incredible cheese steak and the whole time I was like this is such a waste I should be fucking eating a burger this is literally a burger just cut up see I did it though I listen I'm man in my word the haters mostly memes and max I did it you guys all thought I couldn't do it I don't care yeah I know I don't either I honestly don't either I'm I'm I'm happy it's over you had your hundredth burger in front of us today it was it was no fail I didn't feel anything I had no

1:06:20excitement I had no sense of accomplishment I I I felt nothing except for my stomach is hurt for like three weeks straight that's it Zach my who's been the week this week we are coming out of a holiday weekend a lot of people are traveling a lot of guys up in the air yeah my who's back is altitude justice because you guys see the guy who got absolutely oh yeah just face fucked with duct tape yeah duct tape what now what so much was he was he doing a little light hijacking I think you're saying the m bomb I think it was getting physical and slurs who's learning combo yeah looking how much duct tape that is dead duct tape the fuck out of him wait now what is that in the middle they put like a that looks like one of those car jack things I don't know the club they put it up not a slim gym but I was uptie what between his hands they made him hold it me I wouldn't get duct tape like that anybody else here been duct tape I have been duct tape if a lot of duct tape it's a lot of duct tape probably lost circulation the photographing while you're while you're duct tape yeah it's like come on man

1:07:23yeah well I guess see as a bad guy if you was just thrown in bombs everywhere yeah you guys think the other pastor like on this plane they're bonded together right do they keep up with each other now oh yeah never see him again now that would be electric if you if you like stop somebody from taking over playing together even if it was just like some drunk person and those you know the three or four guys that you teamed up with I feel like you started group chat and yeah you're all probably accepting like keys to various cities together yeah yeah we did that I mean ask Donnie want on Don yeah he restrained somebody on a plane one time yeah that's something's like the that's the best of the best I had a friend in a good friend of mine in college he he uh he citizens arrested a guy trying to steal steaks from the grocery store it's like so thrilling just grab them I disagree and he just he's like I can't do that yeah I think you got to let nature tickets course you're stealing like $300 worth of steaks and it's like the the poor person the cash register is like help please grab them it was like you're staying with me got it it worked

1:08:25out super well here side note question what are you guys thoughts on somebody traveling with this much duct tape I think I have that in the plane yeah okay fair fair fair knows that you know you can always have some duct tape on the plane in case the flaps don't retract properly in case you got to you know seal the outside and the event of a explosive decompression duct tape makes a lot of sense never mind duct tape these guys are just like they're not podcasting they're just watching this game memes is not he's been not in this conversation whatsoever well the oh yeah you're trying to do it again we're listening but we're listening yeah yeah but there was we were talking we have a conversation means go take it out that's what that Max is slapping my leg all right let's want let's let's watch this this uh this set of towns here all right so it's 1410 SMU 307 left do we know if that's actually the time it's close enough did you know the the the lights might have come back on because they had like the the thing that's like the rest are keeping you can see it in the end the the rest are keeping the time

1:09:29that graphic isn't up anymore I also heard that there's a chance that all classes are cancelled tomorrow at FSU oh see now this kid is a hero they win if they win and if the overheads no be a sad if the over doesn't hit this kill is not a hero no they got a score touched that's what i'm saying some school should give see what he do the couple of days touchdown if we if this is what are you saying talk us through it Max they're not gonna it's dad it's dad if you don't score touchdown here that's not sure do you have a backup who's back the week Zach uh backup uh is gonna i can go with uh Deon Sanders you guys see Deon Sanders online giving a shot a little tough love yeah also shout out Colorado one yeah one on uh Thursday night that was good to see Goldberg sun plays for Deon no way yeah pretty cool big litter guys are too much that's one where you can't be a glitter guy if Florida states not good um I heard that was Danny canal it is Danny canal yeah standing right or the other gold one he's uh I think he's the gold one okay

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1:13:37trying to argue I still think it was robbery I think still think it was bullshit where do you land on this you're you're going to think that I actually believe the big 10 on this one but they screwed up and here's why so they had already set up a deal we're on Friday nights they're gonna let you see their instant replay deliberations like the ACC did last year the big 12s doing it this year the pack 12s doing it now like if they had let us see that in real time I think millions of more people would trust the answer they got like it's it's actually a big step forward for the big 10 that they released that video but when it's an hour and 53 minutes after the game ended we live in a world where you can find a video for anything to confirm what you want to believe so I mean PFTU have an entire podcast about this so like I don't think I don't think that was the right way to do it like it we need to see that the deliberations every review in every game in every league in real time because I think that's the only way you earn the public's trust back because do I

1:14:40believe the NBC clock was not synced right I do do I feel bad that John Fana got thrown out to to take that bullet I mean they're like you're the new guy yeah you get to read this yeah poor Fanta yeah yeah and you've probably watched more football than just about anybody listening to show over the course of your life did you know about the secret clock until this weekend so the secret clock so secret it's a clock in the stadium that they have a camera train on and when we were all kids that's how the clock was shown to us in games there was a camera on the clock and there was a like a little cut out on the screen where you saw the video of the clock in the stadium and now we got all this fancy technology and AI and well guess what it doesn't work yeah it's bullshit and I guess like listen I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and be like oh Michigan cheating I think it I think the way it happened was suspect and I didn't we all were it was kind of like a March Madden situation where everyone was rooting for the underdog in this moment because they played so tough and and all this happens but going away from that afterwards

1:15:45price underword it like what does Michigan do because he was really bad and I made this argument before the season and I got a lot of shit for it that I was like if price underword doesn't take a massive step forward this is closer to a seven five team than a playoff team and that's what they look like on Saturday night so is it a situation like this is a very fascinating situation because the NIL and how much money is it stake and Kyle Wittingham first year and all this stuff like could they potentially go to to car as as the backup right away like in the in the next couple weeks if rights underwood has another stinker so I want to take a this moment to ask for a do over first another bar still property the the Brandon Walker College football show your your number two college football expert post that show I was on his show the second week I was not a first week yes obviously but he asked me about my prediction that Michigan would make the playoff and just straight up asked are you on drugs and then I dressed him down with this very logical explanation of

1:16:49well look their their coach was having a major affair and and everybody hated everybody and all that was going on behind the scenes and they won nine games and the the true freshman starter didn't have a dedicated quarterback's coach in the offense stunk scheme wise so of course they're going to be better and and like you watch Brandon you see his face and you see the color drain out and I heard him on your show last week kind of parroting those points I want to I want to change my answer I was on drugs yeah good job yeah and then he got a contact I got that yeah but it does feel and listen I think Kyle Wittingham is an unbelievable coach yeah you know you know like the one thing you do better than than than most people in the media and you talk about the culture of the sport and what it means to certain fan bases I think he's an unbelievable coach I think coach again Michigan is different than coaching at Utah like there's just a different pressure cooker to it and I think you kind of saw it in his eyes a little bit being like fuck this is not the same as you know playing in the pack 12 or playing in the in the big 12 and being able to win 10 games every year

1:17:53like this fan base demands good football every single week and they don't want to go back to a Brady Hoker richrod situation yeah now I think he's in an advantageous situation here to get back to your original question if you heard what he said Monday we said Bryce is the is cubi one right now right now and he kind of paused and he said right now and nothing set in concrete like you asked if we would see Tommy car maybe the next few weeks I think there's a chance we see Tommy car gets local home on Saturday at some point yeah it's not working with Bryce because this is a very good defense I mean like David Stone Owen Hainiky the talent is unbelievable what Brent Vennables as a defensive coordinator and I say coordinator because he is the one who calls the plays even though he's a head coach it's one of the most confusing defenses in college football for an opposing quarterback it is designed to confuse the quarterback designed to confuse the offensive lineman well based on what we saw against western Michigan there's a lot of confusion going around anyway yeah so if this isn't working I think Kyle Wittingham because he's the new guy because he was

1:18:57not there when they gave that investment to to bring in right son or would his jobs win games he's just going to go with the guy who who might be able to help him win games and the thing about Tommy car and so those who don't know Tommy car grandson of Lloyd car little brother of CJ the current Notre Dame starting quarterback from the moment he set foot on campus and started working out with the guys there has been positive buzz about this guy and I during the off season I was like okay they must really like him and then I started to conspiracy theory brain over the summer like oh are they are they seeding the clouds in case they have to go to him but it maybe he's just good like his brother's awesome so who knows but with Oklahoma being what they are and being so difficult to manage especially if you're not great at reading defenses they may have to try something different if it's not working yeah that's what struck me about Michigan is is the opening series that they had maybe when they looked the best scripted scripted even in that opening series he still look confused at times I think he went the wrong way on a play and and it was it did not look like dead prep for this

1:20:02game or at least at the quarterback position for any you know extended period of time and now they're going up it like I would say that maybe even Western Michigan was more physical on defense than then Michigan was an offense and that's a major concern for Michigan to yes and then adding in the confusion that Vinables can bring like things could get very ugly for Michigan it could or it's a weird sport yeah they're 20 year olds yeah and all of a sudden they show up and look completely I don't think that's gonna happen though we we talked about this on on our show and Ari kept saying this is not something you can fix in three or four days and I think that's probably true I don't think this was a case of just an unusual performance I just I thought he was going to take a bigger step forward from year to year and watching some of the throws watching the way he handled it it doesn't look any different and this is a guy he's got immense physical talent and I think he strikes me as the kind of guy who his physical talent got him out of every jam in high school and he's trying to do that at college level too and it just doesn't work at the college level you have to you have to

1:21:04follow your scheme you have to use your your your technique your you know your fundamentals you have to keep your mechanics sound all of that stuff matters at this level especially with the kind of defense they're gonna see and remember guys like Oklahoma's really good defense they also have to play the Iowa defense they're gonna play Indiana they're gonna play Oregon they're gonna play mid they're gonna play Ohio State like they're gonna play some incredible defenses this season so this is just sort of the acid test like if you can't do this you're gonna be in trouble with the rest of the schedule so Andy just one more thing about the clock in the Michigan game I'm with you that I read all the explanations I understand I know what they're saying this was the official clock it was not synced up it is the clock the the replay official saw and instructed the reps on the field we're gonna follow this one one second left do you think yeah that if the rolls were reversed in this and western Michigan through a Hail Mary the clock expired on the field do you think that the big 10 replay officials would move Helen high water and dig through that replay to go

1:22:09and find them one extra second to try to throw another Hail Mary would they have made an exceptional effort I don't know pft but I will tell you from having met a lot of the people who who officiate games or who who coordinate officials now for the different leagues these guys are just trying to get right they know they're gonna get yelled at no matter what you most most of the time they're doing a conference game we're gonna piss off one of the conference members either way right so I think they're trying to get it right I I know it's so easy to believe the conspiracy theories and look I fell into that rabbit hole on Saturday night but I do think they were just trying to get right but it but yeah it would they make the extra effort they were trying to get it right they absolutely were in the guys on the field the reps that we're actually calling that game there's they don't have any fault in this that was not their call well they missed that face mask that would have extended a western Michigan drive and would have never happened that way had the western Michigan may have to keep the ball for a couple more minutes and also yeah the caucus sink when they went

1:23:10with the field goal I saw it with my own two I would have we should we we can't stick on it this the nine the nine to eight video was the one that got me and then I'm like but anybody could have doctored that too yeah yeah and listen I I actually agree with you that like this sport is so weird I was I was thinking about it like the the thing that pissed me off the most watching western Michigan like lose that game was not only did Michigan survive but then also the line is gonna be inflated against Oklahoma and Michigan's probably gonna win that game somehow like I was I was getting ready to bet Oklahoma minus three and then it's like no it's gonna be six seven yeah I was watching it roll yeah yeah right on on Saturday night and that Michigan's gonna win because it is that sporting cow winning him is a great great coach and I died don't think that you can what you what you see week one is not what you see the rest of the season speaking of what do we make of organ because organ was another team a lot of hype going into the season Boise gave him you know everything they had that was an interest like it was an interesting thing to see because you like this is the year for

1:24:17organ everyone's picking them they have all these guys coming back Dante more is coming back and then Boise is just taking it right to them right out of the gate so I have to do a projected playoff every week including week one okay and I put it out and I left organ out oh but I put Boise stayed in because if Boise state can do that in Eugene they can probably beat Memphis this week they can probably be western Michigan they can probably win the pack 12 so naturally organ fans are furious at me right now and I'm sorry about that I'm just going with the results we have and I'm not using preseason expectations or anything I just what we saw now I think organ's gonna be fine actually think they're gonna go kill Oklahoma state this weekend and probably pop them right back into the projected playoff but Boise state I think it's more Boise states probably pretty good yeah then it is organ having any issues and I will point out two years ago organ had a rough opener against Idaho your guy Jason Eck who's now in New Mexico that a rough opener against Idaho

1:25:18and then barely survived that ashton genty Boise and Boise state team they then went on to go 13 and 0 and win the big 10 yeah so it may be that this is just organ ran into a pretty good opponent that was maybe a little better than they thought it was gonna be and they survived so I'm I'm really not that worried about them now if they if they go to this Oklahoma state team that just got house by Tulsa and it's and they struggle then I'm gonna worry about about them a little bit but I'm not worried about them right now you're right in that like week to week it's hard to get up for every single game it's just always week one the eyes are on you you have all season to prep for it so you expect the best effort and you saw it you know I mean different styles of competition but like Ohio State take care of business Texas take care of business Georgia they were playing basically no one LSU is that by the way is LSU one of the biggest winners of this week because they looked awesome 100% because you had everybody going oh Lane's just been creating this distraction with trying to take these dudes who were in the NFL and I kept telling people his roster is really good

1:26:21if you look at Lane's history especially it'll miss the offense clicked almost immediately pretty much the whole time he was there even though there was a lot of churn in the roster so I expected them to come out of the gate smoking I did not expect them to dominate the way they did especially in the run game or just bullying Clemson and I and LSU look like one of the best teams in the country I let that projected playoff again because I'm taking the preseason stuff out of it I put them as the one seat now are they gonna stay there probably not but why not let's ride let's ride let's ride the expectations but yeah Lane and I think Lane was trying to prove a point in this game because we'd spent the past month just crushing him for the the NFL player stuff and look the a little side to Holly Row that was classic that was pure Lane right there yeah now do you think um because I I agree with you that LSU looked fantastic they looked incredible last night offensively and defensively I do think that it kind of will go the way that that Sam levy goes because the way the style that he plays it's so fun to watch but we saw it with you know one of Lane's old quarterbacks

1:27:26Jackson Dart in the NFL it's hard to do that weekend week out especially with the schedule LSU has do you think that they would be able to win without Sam levy or is it strictly dependent on how healthy he is no I think they they could probably win so they have a transfer from Elon who he came in in second they've also got who saw an Austria who came from from USC and I think they feel good about their entire quarterback room it's it's a very strange situation where I think Lane understood basically what happened last year when he went out and got printed at Shamless at Ole Miss as an insurance policy so Lane the Clark is the Elon transfer that's an FCS school it's a signety school it's it's one of the stops on the signety track but I think they feel like if Lane and Clark had to come in they'd be just fine which is interesting because Sam levy did go out in the middle of that season for Arizona State last year where Arizona State probably could have won the big 12 I mean they beat Texas Tech with Sam levy playing but I love the idea of Sam levy in this Lane Kiffin offense

1:28:30because he is a run around and make stuff happen kind of guy who throws a great deep ball who does that sound like yeah we watched him play last night try to that Shamless yeah yeah I saw someone tweeted there said that Sam levy plays football like a squirrel with an infetamine problem and I was like that's pretty much it like that they nailed it now on the other side by the way I did a bad job introducing this whole interview and he's actually in the press box for FSU SMU so if you hear a couple of people in the background that's why he's also a professional he's got a Mike he's got a perfect set up so we appreciate it Andy is this rock bottom for dabbo though because it feels like there's been a couple of them you know the Georgia game a couple years ago where it was similar spot week one everyone was hyped at Lanna they got they got absolutely smoke but this feels like true rock bottom in that they are nowhere near the top teams and and it was like they had no like no Russian game nothing it was just it was a totally totally different caliber of teams on the field Tiger Stadium yeah and the scheme was bad the offense looked discombobulated and that was

1:29:35another great lane quote to David Hale from ESPN he said he said I thought this was going to be like 31 to 3 I had no idea their offense would be that dysfunctional yeah and so they they brought Chad Morris back who you know he was their offensive coordinator when they turned everything around with Taj void back in the day and became one of those teams that was competing for the ACC title every year and competing for national titles so but it seemed like kind of a retread situation because Chad Morris had been head coach at SMU he'd been fired from Arkansas so I it was a weird weird situation all offseason they kept Christopher Vizina instead of going to get a quarterback in the portal they have a freshman a tape rentals that they like who you saw on Saturday but obviously he wasn't ready either and I think it's now dawning on everybody and I the Clemson fans were way ahead of everybody else on this and usually the fan base on the ground does understand this a little bit better but with us it was like okay is dabbo losing his touch does he not understand how to win

1:30:37can he not get the kind of players he had well last year he had nine draft picks on that team they still went seven and six so that's a coaching issue so that should tell you this year he kind of closes ranks and he kind of closed off practices to people who were normally allowed there I'm talking about the IP type stuff not media type stuff closed ranks and I asked somebody who knows the program really well I said do you think he did that because he's mad at everybody and wants to prove them wrong and wants to is just you know kind of lashing out or because he knows they're not going to be good and this person said it's probably because he's mad at everybody and and thinks he's about to prove everybody wrong well he was proven very wrong on Saturday night and look here's the problem guys like Miami's going to do the same thing to them yeah there really aren't a lot of other teams on the schedule that have that they're going to have that kind of talent discrepancy but that's where you're going to see where the coaching comes in because Clemson is probably more talented than most of the teams left on their schedule but I don't know if they're going to be better than seven and five or six and six right if they if they look like that if if that's their offense if that's what they're

1:31:41going to roll out there they're going to lose more games it's not just going to be when they're when they're when they're out talented yeah yeah I thought that that dabbo before the game making the little jokes and puns about Lane Kiffin like you could tell that he was he was feeling a little confident because I don't think old dabbo does that unless he's got you know supreme confidence and his team going out there not laying an egg and that was that was like a ponder your future level of beat down there for Clemson like I don't know it was dabbo want to be there he wants to be there and he's the type of person I would think like I just it's we've talked about this over the years I'd say probably since the 22 season the 23 season we we've talked about how does this work how does the end happen for dabbo at Clemson because he does not strike me as the kind of guy who would just say you know what I don't have it anymore I'm going to step down rather than let this thing go down I feel like he would be the kind of person who says look you're going to pay me every dime you owe me and I made this place and we've heard him recite his resume a lot this off season yeah so that's where it gets tricky and so it's interesting that I'm sitting here in

1:32:46Tallahassee right now I there was a post on the tiger illustrated message for this weekend that just really struck me and the guy said I've always said that dabbo is going to be our Bobby Bowden for good and for bad this is a Clemson fan saying this yeah and if you think about Bobby Bowden was with the greatest coaches of all time when I was in high school in college and even before that the the seminals were the baddest of the bad they were amazing and then they had what they called the lost decade which is the early 2000s and he just it just slipped year after year and like I remember they got beat 30 to nothing by Wake Forest here in 2006 and he had he had to fire his son as the offensive coordinator Jeff Bowden he still coached for three more years after that like it it was a long slow decline before they finally decided they'd had enough and I don't think Clemson's gonna do that the Clemson got a new president Graham Nath they have a young kind of energetic AD he's he's been there a while too so he's worked with dabbo a lot but

1:33:50this is a place that got the taste from dabbo of what it's like to be a national power I don't think they want to let it go no and I don't think they've fallen so far that they can't get it back but it may require some some kind of very awkward conversation and possibly a very large check yeah that was it was a the type of beat down though that makes you think like this whole thing like we've never seen Clemson look that outmatched physically and also schematically like at the same time it gets equality opponent it was like it was shocking so it's like and maybe you know I don't know does he want to be there do they want them there something's going to change that's my predict in the next year something I don't know what it is but something will change I don't think the fans won him there anymore I think most of the fan base has turned on him at this point it's it's just a matter of how do you handle that administratively because he would be owed a fortune unless he was willing to play ball with you and I mean this is a guy that they're going to build the statue I mean it and I can't I said this all off season when he would recite his resume like it's up at ACC meeting days and recite his resume if he stopped coaching right now he's still one of the

1:34:52greatest coaches who ever lived mm-hmm but as long as he has the job then what he did before it doesn't matter you're getting that giant paycheck every two weeks you have to produce results and he's not producing yeah I mean it's true though maybe pft like like I just look at the LSU it was 309 rush yards to 40 that's like that's zero before the last drop yeah that's Georgia that's Georgia playing Tennessee State I saw a step that's the that's the difference of like where Clemson is at right now against a big dog I saw a step that Clemson didn't run a play in in LSU's half of the field into the fourth quarter well they had one because of the the I wouldn't miss a prize I was already watching Cal UCLA at that point so they had they had a lucky one because of the pick to start to get in the right field but yeah it was crazy it was not it is not all right well what about let's let's talk another fun story uh UMass UMass beating Rutgers on Thursday I feels like 10 years ago but we got to give them credit pop Watson maybe I mean pop

1:35:57Watson is awesome so so that was stunning I mean I I don't want to talk too much time about it but Rutgers like that is one of the most embarrassing things the UMass hadn't beaten an FBS team in I think two years or three years two years they hadn't no they hadn't won a game yeah in the last game they won was in October 2024 against Bryant which is an FCS school like this is or maybe it's Wagner I mean I feel like I feel like I'm covering the first round of the NCAA tournament right like they they won their conference tournament and then yeah but no it's it's crazy and pop Watson was just awesome that by son and I were just watching that game and we just kept screaming pop pop I mean every time he did something and the fireworks yeah afterward yeah or maybe the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life yeah yeah yeah you have to there has to be somebody there with common sense that says hey I know I know football's back maybe not the right time maybe we hang on to these until next week yeah so I'm I'm a Floridian who was born in South Carolina so fireworks are very

1:36:58special to me I guarantee you there was somebody in there who's like oh no we bought all these yeah we got to shoot and we gotta do it we gotta do it we also like what better way to make you feel better too it's like hey I know we just lost a very embarrassing game but you might this might put a smile on your face yeah yeah yeah yeah what do you think about how this is all shaking up for this week's big matchup Ohio State Texas like it everything kind of seems chalk going into this matchup but but are you just thinking about these two teams the same way you thought about them two weeks ago three weeks ago or is anything changed no this feels perfect this is exactly what I want in early season game it is two superpowers from different conferences the two conferences that hate each other the most could be the best team in each conference we don't know yet but there's a good chance it's the best team in each conference it's certainly two of the best rosters in America and like the thing I can't wait to see is who becomes a star out of this game like we know Jeremiah Smith we know Julian saying we know archmaning but like is this gonna be the Hollywood smothers game or

1:38:03is this gonna be the legend bay game like somebody's gonna become a star in this game and it's gonna be awesome I I cannot wait because it's a it's a close spread I picked Ohio State but not with any degree of confidence like I just want to sit down and watch these two go at it yeah I'm very very excited all right what about uh what other team or fan base is is feeling good coming off a week one that you were maybe impressed with you're like all right this team like we had some questions going into it I was gonna say like the Auburn Baylor game was a mess just an absolute mess yeah I don't even know like Auburn won the game but I don't know if they feel good about it coming off it because I it felt like we were watching like usf was a nice story last year out of coach goal is just really good coach but like that offense didn't look great and uh I don't know who like Baylor I I don't know what did you make of that game so goalish after the game sounded like a guy who'd lost right he there was a lot of the look on his face said that's not how

1:39:06this is supposed to work that's not how this is supposed to look and I was I was a little bit surprised that so Byron Brown we've saw we've seen him play against SEC schools while he was a usf yeah I think you ran for over a hundred yards against Alabama one game he went to the swamp and beat Florida last year like he he's a very fast guy for 240 pounds and it was shocking to me how many times you saw Baylor edge rushers run him down on the edge instead of him getting loose and running for 20 yards now I will say on the last drive for Auburn that rushing ability seemed to return because that that he did score when they needed him to but that was the part that surprised me because I thought that was going to be the X factor and what was going to make this offense feel different is his escape ability scares you so much that you're going to have to put an extra guy in the box you're going to have to spy him and all of a sudden you're going to have some one-on-one matchups on the outside they didn't have a lot of open receivers yeah and so I I just didn't think that worked it was interesting because you've watched Alabama East Carolina

1:40:06Keelan Russell the quarterback for Alabama first time starter like when he gets Lucy runs for 30 yards like that's terrifying yeah he was awesome by Ram Brown was going to be and that was not the case against Baylor which has good athletes on defense but not necessarily as good as what Auburn's going to see down the road now as far as teams that are probably feeling pretty good especially with new coaches I would think Penn State folks are feeling great about Matt Campbell right now and I know Florida folks are feeling really good about Don Somerall those debuts probably could not have gone any better both of those teams look like they've been playing together for a long time looked very smooth you know Matt Campbell he was the only one of the guys who brought a lot of his old players who succeeded because Eric Morris and Oklahoma State they lost to Tulsa yeah and then Auburn maybe should have lost to Baylor Penn State looked amazing yeah I'm so UCLA too yeah you UCLA look good yes yeah yeah and it's Chesney didn't I Chesney brought a good amount too but yeah

1:41:06they that was a great game because that that was a 24-24 game in the fourth quarter and then you you see I just put the hammer down their defense looked fantastic their past rush was getting after JKS and then the run game for UCLA they they were really open and whole so I'm excited to see what they can do and I know I know you you have adopted everywhere former JMU coaches have gone PFT I think you're gonna enjoy adopting the Bruins yeah yeah they they looked fun also they have what's his name Frankie Volcano Frankie Volcano that's right the most I gotta meet that guy yeah he seems like a legend but you gotta have one of those guys yeah they know they they did look good and it just they should be allowed to keep the pack 12 after dark IP they should be able to slap that logo on the screen if it's a crazy high scoring game and it's you know past midnight that I just want to I just want to go back in time when I'm watching those teams play and that's what it felt like that as I'm watching the game I never I never once thought one of these teams is in the big 10 and one of them is in the ACC just I'm watching pack 12 after dark and

1:42:08I enjoyed being transported back there for a couple hours big time big time the other I mean we should mention Miami too Miami looked incredible yeah they have that was Malachi Tony continues to amaze me I listen if you're a high schooler in South Florida and your nickname is baby Jesus and everybody's cool with that you must be awesome yeah he was great as a freshman but he's even better now like they've unlocked more and I think they I think they upgraded a quarterback with Darien Mensa so with Darien Mensa throwing to Malachi Tony I don't know there's a lot of folks on Miami schedule that can stop that obviously Notre Dame's going to be the big game for them but that's pretty much it they should handle everybody else they play which look the history of Miami going back several coaching staffs is they get bored they lose games they're not supposed to Mario Christobal has to prove that that's not going to happen this year because they may not have the strength of schedule to make it up if they drop one or two that they're not supposed to Notre Dame's the one everybody's me looking at yeah Notre Dame look good too I mean they've

1:43:10they throttled us in the second half and I I mean I'll be a cat I listen listen I am I am encouraged I was not so I was encouraged with the there was a lot more physicality than we've had in the last three years and I like Colton Joseph and you know that game was even in the first half like the the the call was wrong stopping Notre Dame's run game yeah how many how many teams are going to be better at running the ball right the Notre Dame that are on Wisconsin schedule right and there was a lot of good things to look at and obviously like the call was wrong with the with the recovered uh fumble but you also can't fumble that like especially when you're playing Notre Dame right so I was yeah the kickoff was bullshit what happened with that they just everyone in the world saw that he didn't have the ball except the the refs but again that's one of those things you can't win a game when you are very much outmatched by a superior superior opponent and have those type of mistakes I was more upset with towards the end of the game that punt like what are we doing we're down 21 why are you punting there there's that that feels to me more of a I want to save my job

1:44:16then I want to go fucking capture this thing and try to try to change everything you that made me you can take the boy away from Tressel but you can't take Tressel out of the way yeah that one bothered me because it's just like you like I I I'm all in on fickle trying to try to turn this thing around and I I do think it looked a lot better than it has in the last three years just based off the first three quarters first half but when you're punting down 21 in the fourth quarter that is a that is a sign to me that's like hey I want to make this respectable I'm not here to try to win this game and it's like even though we weren't going to win that game you got it you got to have a different mentality there yeah and and I think they're going to be fine like I really think they're going to win seven or eight games this year because they go from having the hardest schedule in the big 10 to having one of the easier draws in the big 10 but that attitude probably has to go because you there are going to be games where you're going to need to take some chances and it's got a winning so I just got a winning yeah I think you would tell you he's got a winning okay because if you well if you look at it it's like if you win seven that means you probably lost to Penn State Iowa USC and UCLA or

1:45:24Minnesota and it's like some of those are not okay you know what I mean like you if you win eight then it's like hey you beat everyone you're supposed to beat and then you're maybe going in the right direction because that's what it's been the last three years it's not be real it's up in losing the big game yeah it's it's Iowa but it's not been losing the big games like what Notre Dame was always going to beat Wisconsin is actually the exact same uh scores like four years ago at soldier field we lose so high like once a decade we can maybe beat Ohio State it's how do you look against Iowa it's how do you look against Minnesota it's how do you look against US like where you're in if you're going to be back to the middle of the big 10 are you competitive against those teams that's the test yeah and and the Iowa thing is amazing because the way Iowa just destroyed them last year right right that was that was like when when Beelomah beat Paul Christ and it's like okay something's got to change but yeah in Iowa looked like it had a functional offense against northern so I I'm very intrigued now to see the Hawkeyes going for they get they had Iowa State this week but well they were moving the ball better than we're used

1:46:28to seeing yeah and you mentioned Iowa State next week like that's that's my favorite part about Iowa the same thing they always they always open the season you're like Iowa's offense might be good then they're going to play Iowa State and one team is going to win like uh 12 to 10 it's always the weirdest score oh yes six to three yeah except for that one year where it was like 44 to 41 that was awesome yes I love the sidewalk uh this this early in the season it's hard to say we did have I think maybe an all-time record for most players that did the Heisman pose after doing something in the game yes we actually we might see NFL week one there might be a player that does the Heisman pose and then tries to transfer back go back to school it's a lot of time for court hearings between now and then but yeah so you you started with Malachi Tony then he had Jeremiah Smith yep Florida running about jaden bog gets into it like when jaden bought it it was like okay all right let's let's not go crazy here I I kind of want to see and that's what my co-host our Wasserman said let's have the Heisman pose off between Malachi Tony and Jeremiah Smith because

1:47:32their friends from back home in South Florida like they know each other really well they probably talked about it I want to see a Heisman pose off from them like one per game I like whoever if you whatever you think is the sickest thing you're going to do that day post yeah do they know that the Heisman pose is like you have to keep two feet on the ground so that was the one thing the jaden ball one was I think more realistic but everybody does the Desmond Howard one yeah that's what it Desmond Desmond did it and I'm gonna say he did it wrong because what he did became iconic but against Ohio State he runs back to kick and he does the pose that's the pose everybody does yeah nobody does what Ed Smith from New York University did by the way usually people have the ball in the wrong hand yeah yeah two feet on the ground wide base young man no one's flash one pose actually hard to get into it is it's definitely less swag you then if you pick the one foot up but this early in the season who would you have if you want to if you want to

1:48:33sprinkle a few coins down on Heisman trophy winner oh that's right y'all haven't picked somebody yet no no we have a couple weeks I did throw out I this fight it up because I threw out Derry and Mensa is like a name I liked when we did the preseason I'm such a fucking moron I embed it so I'm sure it went down well but the the problem is Tony Johnny and Mensa say in and Smith I feel like that's a problem yeah I feel like you you may have an issue with the stealing votes from one another although I will say remember when Devonte Smith wanted Mac Jones was also a finalist so it's possible to have the QB and the receiver both get enough shine like if Jeremiah Smith goes and catches three touchdown passes and they beat Texas this weekend he's gonna be the guy for Ohio State that has a chance to win the Heisman yeah I think Tony could be one that could win it as a receiver because I mean you have to go back and look at how good of a season Devonte Smith had in 2020 the numbers were off the charts Tony could put up numbers like that the problem is Devonte

1:49:34Smith was playing as a ridiculous schedule that was the the all-conference schedule because it was COVID year I don't Tony might get knocked for who they're playing I think CJ Carr might have a shot guys yeah he's 11 to one right now yeah yeah I think there's a really good shot because they're gonna be good he's gonna be I think he's better than he was last year and he was really good last year so and you saw they may not run the ball as well as they did last year they lost two first round running back so he may have to to help carry them a little more and and I you know what I'm gonna do it I'm gonna probably bet this because the one thing I notice and and this was Marcus Freeman all off season to leave no doubt the message from last year where they left out and they you know got left out leave no doubt what happened on Sunday night Luke fickle does a cowardly punt and Marcus Freeman and Luke fickle know each other for very look fickle coach to middle high state that they were with each other he's right he think to be mutual respect Marcus Freeman through the ball

1:50:34they were throwing the ball up 21 to the extent lead to 28 that's where you can get some hyenas that's like those those things matter if you if you're gonna lead no doubt they're gonna have the same yeah yeah they're gonna have the same quality of competition issues that Miami's gonna have in Tony and Mensa are gonna have so the the guy you know the arched mannings the Sam let me Sam levitt yeah Sam levitt could be that guy yeah I like that you could put up because remember lane didn't unlock Trinidad until well Austin Simmons was the starter then he got hurt and then Trinidad came in and they didn't quite I don't think understood what they had and then once they figured it out he was off the races but like Sam levitt could be that guy doing that all season yeah yeah yeah I mean next this weekend is gonna be so awesome I can't wait for this weekend to college football Andy it's gonna be great it's it's gonna be so good for him it's not just it's not just Michigan Oklahoma it is not just Texas Ohio like Alabama Kentucky's fascinating Arizona BYU is really interesting you got

1:51:38Tennessee Georgia Tech like we're gonna see some fun stuff this weekend yeah is there one team that's still a major question mark in your eyes one that you just have no idea what to make of them yet because they haven't been tested USC has looked great so far I don't I don't know that their first team defense is giving up a point yet and the the young guys that they brought in who are very very highly tired recruits look fantastic Trent Mosley Mark Bowman the tight end Luke Wafel the defensive end have looked awesome but I need to see this against better competition so they've got a game against the rage in Cajuns and then week four they play Oregon that's gonna tell us everything yeah about USC it's been the litmus test game for them it was last year I want to see if this is for real because Lincoln Riley his rhetoric was very different this off season previous off seasons it was a lot of excuses it was a lot of here's what here's the crap I inherited this is why we can't win none of that this year none of it it was we have what we need the window

1:52:42is open and the Gary Patterson defensive coordinator higher I mean did you see Gary Patterson celebrating that shout out against Fresno State like they they wanted that bad yeah and I get it it's Fresno State but the thing is shutouts are hard they are so if it's USC which we've bagged on their defense for as long as written Lincoln Riley's been there who knows yeah if they if they've got a good defense now they're their potential playoffs all right Andy the game's about to start Zach you're up rowback question are you sure BCK com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q's it's pull those hoodies jogger shorts rowback dot com promo code take Andy is a big fan of you Zach because we finally got before before before Zach asked his his question speaking of Florida representation so in in the Mount Rushmore on Friday when Zach said waiting in line for gas yeah before a hurricane my my Floridian heart almost exploded because that is the worst worst line waiting so you guys

1:53:45are talking about Chipotle I don't know that was one of Zach's two yeah but that is the worst thing ever yeah justice for Zach it was actually great pick yeah it was too knee jandy but I appreciate you have my back there it means more than you know I did a quick question I know you're in Tallahassee tonight and you're a Florida man but a gator through and through what is your unbiased ceiling for Florida state this season so for for Florida Florida Florida state because I can give you both give us both for both I'll take both yeah Florida state the ceiling feels fairly low but Florida boy the offense look good on on Saturday night and they didn't they hadn't looked that good since since Dan Mullin was there offensively and everything John Somerall has done since he got in there has been he's made the right step he said the right things but the question was what's it going to look like on the field in the fact that the offense looks so smooth that Buster Fogger the office coordinator he brought an offense that did didn't look exactly like what he was running with Haynes King at Georgia Tech it looked like he had built something bespoke around Aaron Filo who's the quarterback he brought from Georgia Tech and Jayden Baugh and Vernell

1:54:48Brown the third and Dallas Wilson like they they got a lot of talent so I'm very intrigued to see what they can do I don't necessarily think they're a playoff team I think that they defensively I'm not sure how good they're going to be up front not sure how good they're going to be in the back end but this is a team that should be better than the Billy Napier teams could be an eight nine win type team the schedule is brutal but I think this could be an eight eight nine win type team I appreciate that thank you sir there we go good questions Andy you're the best man we'll talk to you later on in the season everyone listen to Andy and Ari on on three network and he will I think they're going to do they'll have a live report from Florida State SMU I don't know for yeah we're gonna we're probably going to record before the end of the game so just listen to them if you're Florida State or SMU fan that's right we will we will be breaking it down now look if it's gets out of hand we may start at the beginning of the fourth quarter but I don't know this is a crowd that expects better than that I that I don't think that they'd be real happy here but yeah Ossiola and Renegade are about to come out so I'm going to go watch that the the flaming spear hit

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1:58:00Lance Taylor and coach thank you for joining us it dawned on me on Sunday because we had a labor day weekend so we all watched the game on Saturday night what we'll get into it uh tragic way to lose a game but it dawned on me that if you if if western Michigan you guys win that game you're probably doing every podcast all the media getting all the shine for for the upset and I was like you know what that's not fair you should still get the shine you should still come on the show because you guys fought your absolute ass off on Saturday night in the big house and so it's like hey the result we still need to have you on so thank you for joining us and uh we I appreciate how hard you guys fought on Saturday night well big cat I appreciate you guys have me on it's it's honor I enjoy watching you guys you guys are hilarious and uh you know I hope that I would be on this podcast under different circumstances as well so you know we'll uh we'll we'll pretend here yeah okay all right so yeah go I was going to ask because I saw at the end of the game um like a

1:59:03lot of different people that were watching that game I ended up changing the channel after the clock hit zero and it looked like you got to celebrate that game a little bit you celebrated a big win I'm just curious how long did you live in a reality in a world where western Michigan had just beaten Michigan in the big house yeah I mean you know there there are pictures that have kind of gone viral with me throwing up the yeah the dogs you know which you know I got to be honest with you that that hurt even more um you know just having lived in that moment actually celebrating the the first you know you think the games over you look up the clocks are at zero you know honestly our sideline rush the field our fans were starting to go crazy behind our bench and uh and then the rest kind of stopped us about halfway out and just said uh this this is only a review coach you got to get your get your players back on the sideline so at that point I immediately tried the reset because you know I still have my headset on and I told our coaches and said hey we may have another play here let's get our guys back on the sideline and try to reset and refocus so

2:00:07it was short-lived but it was it was lived long enough to you know really rip your heart out yeah yeah yeah so have you have have you gotten you guys have been gracious and defeat and not you know complained about the ruling but what was the best explanation that you've gotten from anyone who who's like this is exactly what happened yeah um well I'll say this I think you know one I appreciate you know our president you know president Cavalona you probably seeing him and the interviews like he bleeds browning gold you know he's a former prosecutor he is sharp he's smart he's you know he's behind us the whole way and he's wanted to pursue this to the end degree and uh you know I think one you know I want people to know you know like we wanted and we wanted answers as well if we weren't just gonna let this go you know whether there was anything that we could do about it or not we wanted to make sure that you know our kids have been you know our our young men our team had been treated fairly and and given a fair shake and I don't know that there's been

2:01:10an answer that has been you know that that we've loved what I will say is is the big tinefficals um on Saturday night after the game actually on the bus ride home and we had gone back and forth with our commissioner in the Mac and then the big tinefficals and they you know said hey you know we will produce um the official review and the um you know send you that video evidence we have video of the actual clock and audio from from the video booth and so what they did I was on the bus on the bus ride home and um they they sent us a video it was from the official review booth where you could hear audio of the official the review officials talking in real time as they're watching the play and the you know countdown clock going off um and they you know put it in super slow mo and you know pause each frame and okay the ball touches his hand here's where where the where the second was you know it was it was 10th of a second you know I'll say that and um you

2:02:11know at at that point you know we felt like they they've cooperated with us do we love the fact that it doesn't match or marry the video board but you know uh clock or it doesn't sync with the clock on the TV on NBC no we didn't love that that's not an ideal situation or scenario for anybody and to me that's not fair to fans or to to my team as you're trying to explain hey guys you know I know it says the clock said zero right there was a different clock that we were actually looking at sinking you know yeah that's hard to explain to to you know young men and the fans and I think you know I think college football deserves better the hour degree the secret clock thing doesn't that doesn't fly too high like that's that we saw that with the world cup this summer it's like the secret clock is good for nobody except for somebody that that might have an agenda that might want things to go uh in their direction whatever that might might be but now you've got a job to do as a coach where you've got a team that went out there and fought their ass off um was a very physical team um so a lot of people would say outplayed Michigan in that game I've if we're looking

2:03:15at the totality of it and uh now you have to find a way to to not let this throw the entire season sideways so uh what's the vibe been inside the locker room just in the in the brief amount of time you've got to spend with the guys and uh where do you see this going from this point on? well I've been really proud of our team just how they've handled this because I mean it's an emotional roller coaster now I mean it's like it's it's the craziest thing I've ever been on and um you know as as in 20 years of coaching um and then you know I haven't been a player as well this is the wildest ending that I've I've ever had and especially you know you get we just talked about it thinking you won the game going out actually celebrating and then having another play that uh there there becomes a different outcome I think it was very tough for our players everybody so an NBC kind of after the game you know our players on the field there were tears in the locker room um and that's hard as a head coach is you come in the locker room because what do you what do you say I mean they laid it all on the line they played their hearts out and to me

2:04:17that was really the message I wanted to be real and authentic with our team like hey guys I love you I'm proud of you this stinks there's nothing I can say or do that's gonna take that away but at the end of the day it really is about how we respond because whether you you know whether we won that game or not and that would have been a huge win we'd never be in Michigan it would have been an unbelievable win and you know and really um our season and and and our um in the history of western Michigan football yeah but our goals are still on the table like not in our conference you know we still play a great G6 opponent in Boise State we can go still win the mic all of our goals are still on the table and so that's what you really just try to impress upon the guys is like listen you hurt and you should hurt right now because you laid it all on the line and there's a lot of people proud of you because of how you played and you proved on national television that you can you came in the big house and played with a nationally ranked football team and went toe-to-toe and a team who is traditionally known as a physical football team you were more physical than them

2:05:21yeah yeah coach their head coach told me that at the end of the game we saw it on the field everybody who watch this game regardless of what the scoreboard said can take that away yeah can't take that can't take that away they can put another second back on the clock but they can't take that away all right I love that message let me add another one I think you got to tell the the guys hey look let's put the let's put the committee in a bind let's let's let's win the rest of our games and put the committee in a bind because I bet you if you guys run the table like you said you play Boise that could be an elimination game if you're if you're able to to win the Mac and run the table in the Mac that committee if you only have one loss next year name come come after Thanksgiving and the one loss is a game that's like hey they got screwed that's that's that's the message is like you you control everything right now and you've been you've been a great coach I mean the the turnaround you've done at Western Michigan winning the Mac last year do you feel like as I know what happened Saturday night were you around the guys today on Monday could you feel the vibe shift back where it's like all right now we've turned the page and we're ready to go I did yeah I mean and that's a great point because that was that was honestly what we talked

2:06:26about today was like you got the attention of the you know see it's the committee you got the attention of the college football world now what are we going to do with it right and I think that's what's been pretty cool I mean you know it's it's kind of been an emotional roller coaster I feel like I've been you know pulled a bunch of different directions trying to be there for my team and our staff and coaches and they've done an excellent job like they've probably handled it better at time you know at times than I have you know I'm selfish I wanted to win that game and you know they've done a great job of a you know let's reset and refocus and get back to work they were awesome today when I saw them and that's you know we've got great leadership like one of the things I'm proud of is as we won the match championship last year we won 10 games we won 10 out of our last last 11 games and we didn't lose a single offensive or defense a starter in the transfer portal and that just doesn't happen in the G5 anymore I mean almost all of those guys you know were offered more money to go to bigger schools with more bells and whistles and they decided to

2:07:27come back to to Western Michigan and I think that that shows you know that there there's a belief in buy-in and what we're doing and that they want to play with each other that there's something special here at WMU and they feel like we can have a really special team and I think that that showed on Saturday night for everybody is what I've seen for a long time that we can have a special team. Yeah I know you want to move forward and as a good coach that's probably where your mindset should be but as a fan of the sport I'm still dwelling on the ending of that game and how it does feel like it was it was an all-time moment that was ripped from you and ripped from the the players on your team that worked so hard to make it happen and watching it back even with the explanation that they gave which I would I would highly doubt that they would have spent that much time trying to find another second if the shoe was on the other foot and you all were attempting those Hail Mary's at the last second but has anybody given you an explanation to the fact that on the Big 10 video you can't actually see the ball when it touches your players hand

2:08:27on the on the new angle with the clock overlay that we didn't see earlier you still can't ever see that you can guess and say you know with a some degree of certainty that you think that's when it hit them but you don't actually see the ball touch. No I mean listen most of it doesn't make sense and it really does you know the stories don't necessarily match the video evidence and listen when you go into video review it's just like any other you know what we've been told is there has to be inconclusive evidence that the colon the field like there's something different than what the colon the field was yeah well they blew the game out like the game was over right and they bring us back to to look at the video and then they put one second back on the clock so yeah I mean you know I don't know that I'm you know we're satisfied with you know the explanation or even the evidence that they've shown I think at the end of the day you know for us it's about moving on and and for me as I had coach like listen you know I was there in the press conference after after the

2:09:30game and my two young you know my wife and two kids are sitting there you know my son is 12 my daughter's eight you know they're six and fourth grade and you know I'm trying you know I'm trying to show them how to handle adversity in a way that you know I probably want to get up there and pitch a fit you know there's a side of me that's selfish and I want to go I don't go on a ramp and really say what I want to say and say how I really feel but I don't think that does anybody any good you know certainly that doesn't do our players any good um and you know doesn't set the right example even though that's probably what you know humanly you know from a human standpoint and selfishly you want you want to do um and so you know but I I did know I didn't know even at that point like our president and you know we were going to you know make sure that we pursued that to get some sort of answer whether whether it was accurate or not but we were basically told after the game like listen it doesn't matter what what's the term and like they're now coming the game is not changing that's that's basically what we were talking yeah the clock and what's the

2:10:32clock is the officially zero and they submit the score it's not changing what's it yeah once a clock hits negative one second we can't do it is it your change but like I said you have like I do think your team the profile that you're going to gain from this is going to be with what you it depends on what you guys are able to do with it but everyone's going to be rooting for Western Michigan going forward and I will say we we're we're big grit guys on this podcast we've been doing a grit week for 10 years you have grit on your helmet yeah I we usually save this for grit week but what is what is the word grit mean to you and what what is uh how are you applying grit in this situation yeah and that was something that um our players our leadership council two years ago said that you know that they wanted to embody and you know really wanted the identity um and mentality of of our football team to be um and and really it's you know um we're going to do whatever it takes um to win and it's going to you know we're going to train from in a gritty uh in a gritty

2:11:35way and everything that we do from how we train how we live the how we condition the how we practice and and ultimately grit is not something that we that we uh put on a t-shirt but it's but it's how we live and so our guys didn't kind of anybody that if you watched us in the past two years I think that we we have a gritty style of play our quarterback is gritty um we say it's not always pretty but it's going to be gritty and I think that's a tough physical brand of football that you know we're going to find a way to win the game and honestly you know that was a way I felt on Saturday night I had complete confidence and belief in our team because over the last two years we have found ways to win almost every single close game even when we were down under two minutes to Toledo we had a score of touchdown and get a two point conversion you know we were down late and you know you know in our rival rigama against central michigan we have to score on fourth and sixth from the goal line to beat central michigan and all of those those things you know culminated we've just been a gritty football team whatever or however it takes to to find a way to win a football game

2:12:38our kids have found a way to do that so yeah that's awesome what what was your message here team we'll send you some uh some Michigan some grit some grit hats I love that yeah yeah where am I put the helmet off for sure well what was the uh the final message to your team before the game because it did look like you guys weren't scared that's one thing anybody can see from the get-go it's like that what's the Michigan they they believe they could win it so what did you tell them in that in that final speech before kickoff I just said we belong we prepared for the moment you guys are are ready we've had a great week of preparation and you prepared starting in the winter summer how we trained and you know have the confidence and belief in each other that we do belong and believe in each other and fight for 60 minutes and I think they they did so that they went out there and did it and there was you know there was an area you know calm and confidence a lot of times in those you know P4 games especially like in the big house in game one you know there's control chaos where the the the noise the fans the the the moment almost seems you know too big

2:13:46sometimes for you know and in those in those moments I think our guys just handled the boys and you know that was in the noise it was pretty cool to see they were confident that we were going to win there in the end yeah all right coach I got one last question for you it's rowback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q'sips polos hoodies joggers shorts rowback dot com promo code take I'm sure you saw in the Mac I'm a big Mac fan Akron trying to they did that whole promotion where someone's going to get to be a offensive coordinator for the first drive I was a finalist I was close I was one of eight I saw yeah do you have shark wheel in your playbook okay so you got you got a diagram shark will for me I don't know let's just running back coming out of the flat and running like down the sideline I will use to have the the quarterback roll out to the same side put the linebacker and hell hit him for a touchdown

2:14:48and then spam that play like 25 times computer never catches up we actually called that in the Michigan game oh okay they they covered the running back we hit the tight end on the lead coming back so love that okay so yeah it was it was it was a good completion for us in the Michigan you have to go back and watch it all right so yeah more shark wheel that would be I only advice you yeah just spam that play it's hard it's hard to defend well you know you didn't win the opportunity to co-play for Akron maybe we can make it happen where you you have a play for Western Michigan here you know now it'd be fun sounds like a pretty cool idea yeah we should we'll bring all the boys out out to Kalamazoo you got great time you got to be careful off from that because we've got a whole file of dumb ass ideas we might we might really weigh down your program those are always the best place though yeah that's not gonna work there's no chance yeah yeah get ready to get ready to learn fake punt punt or maybe like a triple fake flea flicker you toss it you toss it back then you fake the toss again then you run we got it we got it let's we'll make you so much worse just give

2:15:52us a second yeah we're ready to go well coach thank you so much really really respect the hell out of you guys and your program you guys fought your asses off on Saturday night like I said at the start you would have probably been doing all the shows and it's bullshit that that doesn't happen so we wanted to have you on and uh we'll we'll definitely wrap some Western Michigan stuff and if we can ever make it to Kalamazoo for a game we'd love to come really appreciate you guys have me on you guys are the best appreciate it Lance Taylor was brought to you by bluetooth guys quarterbacks don't retire because they got old they retire because they refuse to adapt and some of you were doing the same thing in the bedroom you used to have a cannon now you're out there playing with the fladed balls allegedly look they don't test for performance enhancers in the bedroom so it's time to check out bluetooth gold bring those glory days back bluetooth gold is better sex and a tablet they combined four ingredients into one powerful solution two ingredients hit get you hard physically two support arousal and desire in the brain it works fast last up to 36 hours in your system

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2:17:55what I'm not I'm not a marathon yeah that's exactly verbatim would I say about my height yeah I'm not a marathon guy you know it's it's I run the football when it comes when it comes to the bedroom I was that was the honeymoon it was it was very nice I will say at like day 10 I was like I'm I'm I missed the boys yeah I wanted to come back to the boys yeah two weeks is a long time I had a really good time where did you go I went everywhere it was we would go for one place for like two days and then we would go somewhere else so tell us where you want peace as centropay we're what country are these places those are all in France okay so one weekend for that was the one week in France were you did you go like like uh banana hammock at the beach no okay you were in like I was wearing sure on the max speedo yeah no I don't even own one of those I did see that oldy was ripping at at camp though yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah ripping at the spring and then I did Piedmont Lake

2:19:00Como Milan Italy wow that I don't think that was an Italian noise that you just made yeah so you're little late on the French but it was awesome it was was definitely like a once-in-a-lifetime trip was the best meal you had Alfredo um people were getting on you for the Alfredo tweet no and Alfredo Alfredo is just not like a real Alfredo that people think in America you'll never find that right yeah that's what I'm saying so you tweeting that was crazy oh right I thought you were people were getting on me got a guy no you tweeted out how much Alfredo right Alfredo forgot that was a tweet that came from my account there were a couple there were a couple tweets that came from my account that were not me but that's fine that is what it is it is favorite favorite meal my favorite trip was actually Piedmont I went there for two nights one day I just like wine wine country in Italy like very very small town went to a couple

2:20:05of the wine and handling those wine glasses oh yeah 100% and we went to like you gotta be the most American guy oh yeah it was well it was the slow season for that like town so we went to two different wine tastings where there was supposed to be like five people there and and me and my wife were the only people at both of the wine tastings so it was just us and like the guide who barely spoke English at both of the ones that we went to and then they just kept pouring us more wine because they like ran out of things to say that they were like oh we're only supposed to give you this much but we'll give you more we'll give you more oh yeah so that was cool I best meal best meal was also was also in Piedmont see here's the thing we did like a like a fancy Michelin dinner one night and then we also did just like the normal hotel dinner Michelin no two different nights the mission was banged in Italy we did no muck banging I've always

2:21:07this is actually be it is actually be getting in the muck bang game but that's a different story what's the muck bang exactly you just put food everywhere you eat and you talk about where you're eating yeah exact you should but like if you eat a lot of food like those guys go crazy you should be muck like those accounts go absolutely nuts yeah we're like there's like a love seat they open it up it's just ravioli there's a guy on TikTok right now who's doing Chinese buffet reviews and he I saw that until you eat until no until he gets yeah food poisoning yeah he is awesome he's my favorite guy online mother reviews shout out awesome I saw that the other day that's a side of the point of this vacation it was very fun vacation Piedmont was the best food did you meet any Pia Monta any Philly fans over there no there uh Lake Como is America that's the other thing I found yeah everyone in Lake Como is American and it is very much it's it's a great place absolutely beautiful but like there's no Italian people there no so no no birds fans there no there were that

2:22:11like I no one came up to me for like the first 10 days of the trip when I was in France and in Piedmont and then when I got to Lake Como it was like just like I was in it was just all different American people visiting there were some Eagles chance going I wouldn't say Eagles chance but it was did you do any Eagles chance no like no I did say go bird that all yeah no I did not it's been it's been over two weeks since you've said go birds no I was saying go birds oh okay because yeah well in Lake Como that'd be funny if like the first 10 days when Max had no one coming up to him his wife was like yeah you just keep saying go birds and you're sleeping I could have been doing that she wears your plugs oh yeah yeah my wife like it strapped up she looks like she's an astronaut I'm fucking face mask the ear ear plugs the fan I did listen to the one day where you were like these these gives better be good they better not be shot glasses and yeah I mean I think it's like it's kind of similar it's like you know if you get fired from a job you get severance you get

2:23:12severance for how long you've been there you were gone for 14 15 days you missed some pretty big stuff you missed the campar stool you missed the grudge match so big big stuff so the gifts should be appropriate to how long you were gone okay so I did I'd already gotten the the other gifts so we have two rounds of gifts we have two rounds of gifts oh so give us the shitty gifts first I love this this is actually great so the first round start with this so this is around the gifts before you heard us saying you better bring back good gifts correct a lot of some of these are for the booth boys too and then the guys outside you just got us pasta you know those are foods no no I got you I got I did get you food you big cat this is this is authentic Italian pistachio cream actually fantastic is that for your face no you eat it you eat this yes it's so good okay I

2:24:14don't know big pistachio guy but that's fine read that one wrong you want to hate I have haves on out as well no I don't like hazelnut either you don't okay that I'll take the pistachio just really so much good you went back to the only thing you brought you uh oh you cream so you put this you put this on your eyes yeah you put on like toast oh good for wrinkles I think you put on your eyes no you definitely don't put on your eyes um you jack off pft yeah this is from a farmer's market in and tea back actually they had a bunch of different uh jams and this was the best one they had a bunch of like taste things with flavored jam is melon it's I've never had it before I know that I see you eat on crossbows every day so I thought maybe you would try this yeah yeah by the way I would like to just say that I am open to trades on the pistachio cream uh Hank you you got the it's hazelnut

2:25:19Italian it's like Nutella coffee huh for coffee no it's all it's like Nutella what do you mean I just said it's like Nutella and you asked if it's like if it's for coffee it's hazelnut yes it's Nutella is made out of hazelnut and it's really melony do you want some pistachio cream oh this smells good uh yeah I love pistachio do you like melons yeah yeah let's trade yeah all right good pistachio is my favorite nut I'd like to trade the melon for any pasta that you might have all right fine Hank has a hazelnut oh good it tastes like Nutella all right great gift pasta uh this is good gift I also have an Elton John bobble head oh I'm talking for someone yeah like I just got this yeah all right we'll just put this um Max already broken oh no Max this uh no no he's good it honestly did break in transit but uh my wife had super glue that that we that we were able to use pistachio cream is incredible I also have this bobble head

2:26:22for somebody else what's that messy I know a guy that would love that I know a perfect guy for that one that this will be for that'll be for you all right would you like me to get to my other gifts yeah wait so wait what did the what did beams get uh uh pasta you just you just spammed pasta memes got uh dick and balls for shock glasses okay wait hold on yeah or no tits so you had all these gifts oh yeah and you heard us being like you better not bring us back shock glasses I had all those gifts before before you said okay so these are good pre gifts this is actually really then I was in Milan and I was like all right like my last trip was Milan before or after you I heard all of that and I was like what is Milan known for Milan is known for designer items so I went to a designer outlet store all right and tried to find

2:27:22designer items that I could bring back turns out even a designer outlet store the the brands that you think there's a big big wind up they're they're still extremely expensive okay so so you don't love us is that what you're trying to say he's like bear that in mind don't love us so I went to the counterfeit guy so my first gift is a pair of proto socks for big cat oh wow I I will never wear those socks they're proud of to their product these are proud of well who would I ever wear those socks you you wear a suit for for advisors once a week and I and you can wear them out of socks sweat pants underneath all right give them to me these are proto socks are officially open to trades say here's the other thing nothing in Italy is it is you almost do you almost dox be that was fucked up proud as you almost dox my fucking size

2:28:24uh my next thing I think I'm going to stop yourself in like a two two well you're not well how much I'm actually two ex and like I didn't think that you were an Italy one X yeah how much of those socks cost a lot 250 denara whoa I don't know what that is Lira no they were marked they were marked that's the euro that 250 euro I think it was 130 euro that was marked down from two all of this is from I went to a outlet store but it was all I spent like a thousand euro at this place on the ship on shitty stuff well you told me I didn't I know I want to look at Italian flag or like a some what is that fucking mean you know what I'm saying so then my next thing tiny flute once I also that was the only name brand of anything in the store that I could have got was those proto socks okay so that beautiful proto socks take would you like proto socks no

2:29:25okay the their product proto like some proto socks yeah but you've got to be able to show them off or else it's like you're I'm wearing designer but like those are socks we wear underneath pants no one would ever see they have the product like they have little logo on the sock they're legit um and then I once I realized that was like I need to just find for your bet at home I do yeah actually that's a lead that's a lead put the proto socks on that um okay so then once I realize that we weren't going to be able to get the name brand of name brands I just started look for funny stuff inside of this store um and that started with you went to like the Italian butters gifts you you you you blew your whole budget on a pair of socks so all right here we all now we're getting out here so this is from my wife was also looking with me I was like I need to come back with good gifts unironically she was like I think Hank would look really good oh that is nice so this is rank what is that say on it be if the actually has two here okay what no

2:30:27strap I don't know what it says but she was like I could see yeah yeah I like that okay where that um pft you actually have two and you have the option to gift one of these to a friend okay and this or join forces with a friend or what about trading for proto socks trade them for proto all right the first is I feel like you need louder sweatpants yeah I do yeah you like you like can't have been you a toaster girl no these are not juicy sweatpants these are not juicy sweatpants there's nothing on the butt what there's nothing on the bottom of the butt that's how you can tell these are these are perfectly man men's we sure about that okay so now I'm understanding yes there's and yes there's a size is that this is that this is a large okay so now I understand why I can only get large but it but it it I felt like a good work for pft okay yeah like that jmu color yeah this is why part two of the of this gift I got you a Gerry O'Connell shirt oh nice that you see their gift to Gerry O'Connell uh huh or if you want to if you want to play the card of

2:31:30Gerry O'Connell well I mean Jerry he did take over fantasy full ownership for me so I think I have to at least try it on yeah we have to see if it fits thank you Max great gift is some good sweatpants um I think the next one I'll give to memes I think he actually will really like fanny pack for memes or I think this is a fanny pack it's a bag it's a bag for memes and all that's sick let me see it well Zach also got one too whoa Zach says oh sweet I kind of want this means you want some socks do you like socks the socks are probably Zach will take the I know Zach would appreciate the products socks all gifts are appreciated huh I can't all gifts appreciate yeah this is cool this is a cool little bag good bag nice it's like a purse and then there's another bag this one is around the waist all right this one could be could be dicey it's a little but well you know we'll figure that out I'm getting lost in the okay um that's good gifts

2:32:34and yeah I have some others show us what the other ones I got this for Shane oh that's perfect this this this felt like this felt like a shame shirt to me Shane get in here you know I want to say put that on that's actually a great date shirt for Shane and then I have some bucket hats I tried to look for the biggest shirts for Colton like I said they don't do they don't do they don't see the bucket hats what do you think I should give this to Jerry or should I keep it I should keep it like the guy from 51st days I'm good I kind of feel hot in this I feel like it looks good I feel good for kick and struggles tomorrow I feel beautiful yeah what uh let me see the bucket hats we got light headers yeah blue one blue one for Jacob let me see it's good he's uh Gators Gators I can't really catch my socks on and then uh this black one he's gonna for Colton

2:33:35matching buckets for boys I like those I also have olive oil oof or Shane put that shirt on I got olive oil for Colton because pug loves olive oil and Colton is just pug and and yeah give me sure give me a shirt where's the shirt what happened to oh yeah that is a Shane shirt I thought you I thought you would really like it and it was and it was the next L Shane with those sweatpants and that shirt you looking ready to go to a strip club yeah yeah that looks good I mean that that's shirt that's good looking shirt that's a good shirt you like my socks and Prada it pretty cool Prada Prada over you yeah thank you all right good job yeah that's it that's it good job we're happy you're back you missed the fuck out this is sick this is sick uh would you think about P. Prisco's appearance on the show

2:34:37I think you guys did a really good job with defending Jalen Hertz I did not I think you guys did a really really good job of defending no somebody would you take Trevor Lawrence to Jalen Hertz I would take Jalen Hertz would you you sure yeah when if they switch rosters I would would you rather have Jalen Hertz on the Jaguars or Trevor Lawrence on the Eagles I would like to see Trevor Lawrence with Kevin the Tullo as his offensive coordinator what about what about Trevor Lawrence with Kevin Moores is offensive coordinator he would probably be pretty good yeah yeah better than Jalen Hertz I don't what he's gonna win two Super Bowls maybe yeah you don't know well Jalen Hertz could have won multiple Super Bowls right I know where if Trevor Lawrence didn't fumble that ball he's Jalen Hertz is batting a thousand for Super Bowls with no no no yes with Kelli oh with Kelli Moore right he was there for once I guess we'll never know yeah well I can't do better no he could every P and Super Bowls well he he wants to roll out no I know but MVP of the league and and

2:35:41Super Bowls MVP would be better okay maybe so it sounds like there's still room I can't wait for Sunday back yeah the fact you guys are playing in the afternoon I know I hate that part of the game I have to like to mullish them no I know I know I I I'm not I wish there was a a buffer game like a warm-up game like let me like right in fact that we got to go right into it and then also we're Max our Chicago we can come yeah but the there's a very good chance a high chance that the the Bears and Eagles play Monday night football and then the Phillies and Cubs play the NL Wild card the next day three game series all in Chicago possibly all in Chicago Cubs have to just I don't the pitching is just he says just doing out historic things every game then they're like oh and then the Phillies and the Cubs are also just the complete opposite teams yeah like the

2:36:41Phillies offense gets so fucking cold but they're starting pitching is insane so it'll be fun so it'll yeah be really fun down box you'd be incredible week for this podcast like it we would we would just every night we would go to a different game Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday yeah I don't know if I can get I don't know if I can go to all but I picked the the playoffs games over the Monday football game but yeah we would probably yeah if it's in Philadelphia we'll go to Monday football and then stream the others I'm a yeah for playoff baseball and then we got Jets Bears on that Sunday I had the Jets are good yeah Sunday I can't wait for Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday I'm not waiting for Sunday yeah I have the I have I'm back I'm back to being overconfident wait my mood swing last last week has been 180 degrees flipped around who do the bucks have week one week one we play you got to know you got exact as bad preparations you got to know

2:37:44week one you got in week one you got to know you got to know you're gonna where we play yeah I have the perfect week the panthers the perfect week one get gotta win it but it's like no pressure no pressure like the Vikings are playing the Packers all right numbers three five one 15 10 55 89 69 anyone get it while I was gone no means them which is EOS coming in real yeah yeah in the afternoon too America's game of the week is it probably I just said it's out right I'm 21 21 10

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