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What's up everybody?

Welcome to the latest edition of Straight Shooter

with yours truly Stephen A.

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I want to start off today's show.

Tonight's show.

This week's show.

Rather than calling the politicians on Capitol Hill

flaming idiots, or people who are unproductive,

or whatever it is, else that I may want to say,

rather than engaging in castigation

and going off on that level,

let me try to bring it home for you

in a different kind of way.

As to why if they're not smart,

they need to get smart,

because things can go awry,

quick, fast, and in a hurry.

I want to let y'all know that I've always thought

that January 6th was an insurrection.

I'm not a Republican, I'm not MAGA,

and I damn sure ain't a progressive leftist either.

But I know an insurrection when I see one.

But I know an insurrection when I see one.

And when you're storming on nation's Capitol,

you're bulldozing through barricades,

you're ignoring instructions from law enforcement official,

and you're causing chaos and bodily harm,

while invading the offices of elected officials,

defecating in their offices,

and doing the kind of things

that can only be described as lawlessness

and engaging in that kind of mayhem.

That's an insurrection.

The relevancy to that on this particular day,

ladies and gentlemen,

is that while me,

nor you, nor anyone,

in a democratic society

like the United States of America,

and ever, ever condoned such a thing,

condoning is one thing.

Understanding it is another.

Do you not see what the hell is going on right now

throughout the airports of America?

Do you not see what is transpiring

in our country right now?

Do you really, really think

that if you continue

to be on Capitol Hill,

getting nothing done,

being inept and impotent

at the expense of the American people

that it's not going to come back

to bite you in the ass in some way,

shape a form,

because I'm here to tell you what's going to.

Let me just read some of this stuff,

because I want to make sure you have it

in its proper perspective.

Right now,

you're talking about a deal

for DHS that hasn't come through.

They're still fighting over this stuff.

TSA is not funded.

Call out to have proliferated.

Walkouts have taken place.

Flipouts and the like.

Meanwhile, we're sending soldiers

to the Middle East.

For a war that most people

believe should ever be a war,

and we should be,

and I'll get to that in a second.

But it's relevant to bring this stuff up,

ladies and gentlemen,

particularly on this date,

because as we have a president

who tells us one minute,

we're not at war,

and then the next minute we find out

where it war,

and then he gets on the phone with Iran,

and he says,

you know what, they've agreed to a deal with no nukes,

only to hear them come out 24 hours later,

and say,

you know what,

because we damn sure didn't agree to that.

Then you take into account

what's transpiring at the airport,

these long ass lines,

people having four, five, six,

eight hour waits.

When you see all of this stuff going on,

how long do you think it's going to take

before chaos reigns?

You really, really think

the American people

are going to sit idly by,

and say nothing,

and do nothing.

You really, really think

the American people are going to sit idly by,

and just spout off at the mouth,

in front of a microphone,

or go on television with the cameras rolling,

and just engage in pundancy

with their commentary,

partisan pundancy,

I might add,

you think it's going to stop there?

You really think it's going to happen?

Because if you don't,

you're not paying attention

to the climate,

how things have regressed

on both sides of the aisle,

and our ultimately things

are going to come home to roost,

approval rating for the president,

in terms of his job performance right now,

have fallen to 36 percent,

horrible.

But it doesn't stop there.

As of today,

the Department of Homeland Security

funding laps has stretched today,

40.

Via TSA's own testimony

on Capitol Hill this week,

they said employees have already worked

87 days without pay

in fiscal year 2026.

87 days ladies and gentlemen

is nearly three months,

without pay.

How many of you can afford to pay your bills

if you go without a check for three months?

Now, I believe this woman,

her name is Hanouen McNeil.

For the TSA,

she spoke on Capitol Hill

to my producers,

could you play this now from her please?

Let's hear what she had to say.

This level of disruption

is unprecedented and unacceptable

and significantly undermines

the security of U.S. transportation systems.

99 percent of the TSA workforce

operates outside of the national

capital region,

working across the country,

living within your districts and communities.

95 percent or more than 61,000

of TSA's employees must continue working

without pay during a shutdown.

Congress and the traveling public

should be proud of the excellent job

the TSA workforce does to protect

our national security.

Paying these dedicated employees

for the work they are performing

should never be a point of debate.

And yet here we are,

on the 40th day of our third shutdown

this fiscal year.

Many in our workforce

have missed bill payments,

received eviction notices,

had their cars repossessed

and utilities shut off,

lost their child care,

defaulted on loans,

damaged their credit line,

and drained their retirement savings.

Some are sleeping in their cars,

selling their blood in plasma,

and taking on second jobs

to make ends meet,

all while being expected to perform

at the highest level when in uniform

to protect the traveling public.

A transportation security officer

at Reagan National Airport

recently said,

I just want Congress to pay me

for the job I am doing.

Acting TSA administrator,

testifying on Capitol Hill,

people are sleeping in their cars,

selling their blood to blood plasma

they are talking about.

Getting second jobs

and why, ladies and gentlemen,

87 days without paying fiscal year 2026.

By this Friday, March 27th,

folks will have missed pay

totaling $1 billion.

$1 billion.

While the president

and his family are pocketed

at the minimum of $1.5 billion

for themselves.

I ask again, how long you think

that's going to last?

I heard Marjorie Taylor Greene,

the now former Georgia Republican rep

who used to support Trump,

but ultimately turned against him,

going off about him and his lack of focus

on America being first

because of all of this stuff

going on in the Middle East.

You know why I don't want to particularly

hear from her either?

Because according to reports,

she came into office a couple of years ago,

worth a few, a couple of $100,000.

And when she departed this January,

she was worth 25 million.

They all get paid.

But not you.

Not a few TSA worker.

You know, it gets worse.

According to an associated press,

more than 3,200 TSA workers missed work

just this past Monday.

Nearly 11% of those scheduled.

And at least 458 had quit

since the shutdown began 40 days ago.

Some reports have that number

at 480.

As you heard,

Mr. McNeil articulate,

approximately 61,000 folks

are working without pay.

You really think a second insurrection

ain't possible?

You really think that folks

descending on Capitol Hill

ain't possible?

I got news for you.

They show up.

It ain't going to be because of some

no Kings protest.

And I'm not trying to minimize that.

But arguing about the president

and the power that he wields

is entirely different than storming

the nation's Capitol

and not getting paid

for the work that you do

while government officials

are getting paid.

They were actually compelling people

to keep working.

We don't give them a check.

How long do you think

the American people are going to take that?

Because we're only as strong

as our weakest link.

And if you ain't making anything,

people around you who are making

something are going to have a problem

because ultimately the people

who ain't making a damn thing

are going to be looking

for you to assist them.

Or,

desperate times call for desperate measures

and who knows what level of lawlessness

folks will engage in

because you're starving.

I don't break laws.

The only law I've ever broken

in my life is speeding.

And I'm here to tell you right now,

and I couldn't play some bills.

And I didn't have food on my table.

I might rob your ass.

Desperate times,

desperate measures.

This is not a joke.

And the president is sitting up here.

Literally,

holding folks hostage

because we have not just

the Democrats.

We had two Republican senators

in John Kennedy

out of Louisiana

and Ted Cruz out of Texas

rolled up to the president

there were Republicans.

And they said,

we think we have a deal

that we can make

to open the Department of Homeland Security again.

ICE is still funded through 2029.

We can come with some reconciliation bill

on the back end

to address the concerns about ICE

but for right now

just to get these people

getting a check again

and to get folks back to work

and to make sure

there's not a dissipation of bodies

at the airport

as TSA workers

to keep folks safe.

We think we got a bill

and what does the president say?

I ain't doing a damn thing

unless the Democrats

approved the Save Act

which don't have anything to do

a grown ass man supposedly

damn 80 years old

supposedly a billionaire

even though that's official now

but the money he gets

since he been back in office

got business deals

going on in the Middle East

got business deals from self right here

in the United States of America

no matter what happens

there's something involved in him

in a Trump name

benefiting and profiting

whether it's with Whit Cough

or his son-in-law

Kushner, his end voice

to the Middle East or anything else

whether it's the son

Eric and Don Jr

or it's Trump himself

get paid

but the American people

get screwed over

and he has

no problem

with it at all

no wonder he said

he didn't think he was going to heaven

I know he ultimately showed up

one day and said he was joking

I don't think he was

he knows he's destined for hell

with this condolences going on

not like this

you got to have some compassion

for the American people

the man sat up there

to Republican senators came to him

and he still wouldn't make a deal

and it's because of the

save act and because why

this man is addicted

safeguard American

voter eligibility act

proposed US law focused

on tightening voter registration rules

that's what he focused on

that's what he's determined to fix

that's what he's determined

rather to push through

because in his mind

that will validate his proclamations

that he was robbed of an election

he had a tension to the fact that

he's back in office now

legitimately

so 77 million plus people

voted for him

he still wants to look at the rear of

you mirror proven points

never mind that it potentially

disenfranchises 20 to 25 million people

when even a real ID

or a driver's license

or a social security card

ain't enough

and if you show up and present

Even then, they won a second form, a ID.

Let me stay for the record. You should have a damn ID.

I have no problem with the demand for an ID, devote.

You need an ID for everything else and to the progressive less shut the hell up.

You got a man in New York City that required two IDs for you to shovel snow.

You in an opposition to be bitching about how he wants IDs and the GOP wants IDs for votes.

Shut up. Nobody wants to hear that.

But in the same breath, you also don't want to hear folks acting like it's excessive

to ask for an ID. And in the same breath, you don't want to ignore when Democrats say it's too

excessive because the IDs that people have, you're suddenly saying ain't good enough.

When we got an official in Utah involving voting, talking to you about the polls and out two

million people in the state of Utah voted and they found one illegitimate vote out of two million.

And that person didn't even vote. You know it's not a problem. It's exaggerated. It's embellished.

Which makes this about him and not us.

And now we got the war and Iran going on.

The straight of a muse still isn't open. Iran is the man to control of that. Knowing that 20%

of the world's oil comes through there. Folks standing still stagnant, can't move because

their scared of drone is going to blow them out of the water. Today doing anything.

It's compromising us globally. All prices have risen. National average gas price is $3.98.

It was about 50% less last week in the state of California. It's approaching $6 a gallon.

That's not just because of this. That's damn sure because of Gavin Newsom and the local government

here in the state of California. No doubt. But nevertheless, it is what it is.

Cost of the war, $800 million to $2 billion for Operation Epic Fury per day.

And our deficit is over $39 trillion. Do you understand what you're doing, Washington?

I'm not advocating for it. I would never do such a thing. I am a law-abiding citizen.

Look up my record. I don't do that. I don't do that. I'm just telling you what could happen.

How long do you think the American people going to stand for this?

Lines backed up. I didn't even bring up airport security. We got a plane air

Canada flight landed in LaGuardia, crashes because something's on the runway. Two pilots killed.

40 people plus injured. You got TSA lines out of the wazoo hours upon hours of delays.

You don't think Iran, when it's proxies, it ain't just about Hezbollah and Hamas and the hoodies in Yemen.

You got kind of proxies all over the place. We don't know what people, you're just finished

talking about how people cross the border, how anywhere from 8 to 12 to 15 million people

cross the border illegally. You haven't even gotten a million out.

Yet every day you got one of these right wing networks talking to us about illegal migrants

and the danger they pose. And now we got this stuff going on with Iran. Who's to say they don't

have people here ready to try to commit another line 11. What the hell is up?

I don't know about job, but I'm scared. I want to get on a dance flight. I want to get on a bus.

I don't want to get on a train. Why?

This is real life stuff. And all y'all got to do is come together and look out for the American

people instead of yourself and reaching a chord. It's what you are elected to do and you can't do

that. See, it's moments like this where I believe

American people don't get paid. You don't get paid.

American people can't afford a vacation. You don't get a vacation.

American people can't afford to leave town. You don't leave town.

And a matter of fact, when they board flights and train rides and bus rides, public transportation,

you should have to be right there with them. Let's be in the muck and mire together.

Not y'all sitting on some perch looking down on the minions and the minions and the peon onto the

world. We'll figure it out. They'll be okay.

This is why people say y'all ain't shit.

This is the problem.

$800 million to $2 billion a day.

If you're spending two billion dollars a day, what's wrong with making a deal that ensures

that a billion dollars isn't lost over the last 40 plus days for TSA?

You know you can fund it. You know you can do what's necessary. You're just using the issue

to get other things that you want that have nothing to do with them as American citizens.

You're using them as ponds.

I'm not advocating nor would I ever in this direction.

Any form of violence whatsoever I'm diametrically opposed to.

But if folks roll up on Capitol Hill in unpleasant fashion in the near future,

don't say I didn't warn you and tell you why.

They're not just doing it or even thinking about doing it because of their frustration with

your actions and your ineffectiveness and inefficiency. They would be doing it because they don't

believe you give a shit about the American citizen.

And you wouldn't even be in a position to tell them they're lying with what you're

subjecting the American people to.

And no matter how bad the Democrats and the Republicans are,

nobody at this moment of time is worse than President Trump.

The deal maker in decline.

I thought you would add, dude, man. What up, Don?

What up, Mr. President? What's up? I thought you would add, dude.

You're creating Russia, resolving them one day, huh?

Israel, Iran, would be no war with me, huh?

We ain't trying to engage in warfare in the Middle East.

No new wars, huh?

The deficit got trimmed that down, huh?

You closed the borders.

That much you did.

Teraf Wars, where's the evidence?

Where's these trillions of dollars that were supposed to come pouring into the United States of

America? And if it was going to be the trillions of dollars pouring into the United States of

America, why would this deal be such a big deal if we got those kind of dollars coming in?

Because your ass was lying.

What is shame? What is shame?

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Steve and I coming at you as I love to do every Wednesday night from six.

To 8 p.m., East and Standard Time. Up next,

he's a proud Detroit native, a member of Michigan's House of Representatives for the 11th

District. He's now running for a seat in the 13th Congressional District.

He's a Democrat that's got a lot to say.

And I'm going to give him a chance to say just that.

His name is Donovan McKinney.

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I already told you who my next guest is, but it's worth repeating because

by all the count of the peers, he's the real deal and I'm looking forward to talking to him,

proud Detroit native and a member of Michigan's House of Representatives for the 11th District.

He's now running for a seat in the 13th Congressional District.

Please welcome to straight shooter with yours truly,

the one and only Donovan McKinney.

Representative McKinney, how are you so welcome straight shooter, how you doing?

I was telling you earlier in the break.

I didn't know who you are that you know what I was.

So I'm just, I was blessed to be on the show, man.

I keep my eyes out for everything and everybody that's trying to do good things,

and obviously that's certainly you.

Talk to me about yourself and why the transition from the 11th District to the 13th District

within the same state and what you're hoping to accomplish with that move.

I grew up born and raised in the city Detroit.

Growing my mom, my grandmother, my younger brother.

We moved over 13 times across the city, spent the vast majority of my life on the northeast side.

And you know, we didn't grow up with a lot of, you know, resources.

You know, there was days when I didn't know where the next meal was going to come from.

We stayed in cars sometimes in shelter, sometimes in street.

But there was no shortage of love from my family.

And we did everything we possibly could to give us the best life.

And it just led me into helping people into the life of public service.

So that's what I'm doing now.

I'm going to stay legislature.

I've been there for two terms and now I'm excited to head to Congress

with the help of the people in the 13th District this August.

So yeah, excited to be on the show, brother.

Talk to me about this move.

And if you were to win this election, what kind of position it would put you in

that you're not in now?

Just for clarification with my listeners.

So for those who don't know, I'm part of the Quorum Cold State Legislature.

So, you know, we made policies for the entire state of Michigan.

And now I'm looking to go federal and essentially go ahead into the Congress

in the halls of DC working with, you know, the Congress as well as the Senate and the president.

But, you know, one of the things that I've been working on in the state legislature,

I'd like to continue and Congress is to issue around affordability.

Now, I represent Stephen A. the poorest house district in the state of Michigan currently.

The median income of my current state house district is around $14,000.

And I'm running to represent one of the poorest congressional districts in the nation.

It's actually the fifth poorest.

And so one of the things that we're working on is making sure that the quality of life issues

making sure that at the end of the day people can make sure they make the ends meet.

And that's really top of mind for a lot of the residents we want to represent.

You're running against an individual that's about 33 years older than you.

He's a two-term or the person's a two-term incumbent or whatever.

And you're challenging a sitting Democrat in the safely blue seat.

Why is this about results and not just ideological branding?

No, that's a good question, Stephen A. Like, at the end of the day, my opponent,

he's not been delivering for the district.

And what we've been doing in the state legislature,

on appropriations committee, I'm the only Detroiter in the house,

on appropriations last term in this term.

And I was able to shepherd hundreds of millions of dollars back to the district

in the surrounding area.

And I'm looking to do the same thing in Congress.

I know my opponent's claim to fame is just a few million dollars to the district.

And that's not cutting it.

People need somebody that's going to fight, that's going to meet the moment.

And that's going to fight for both values.

And that's what we're all about.

Michigan remains a crucial background state, as you well know.

In 20, in 2024 election, 21% of black men in Michigan voted for Donald Trump.

And that figure rose to about 58% among Hispanic voters of both genders.

Black voter turnout is essential for wins in Michigan.

And of course, the United States, by the way, just asked Jasmine Crocket about that,

particularly in red states.

Why does it appear they are disengaged or voting for Trump?

And what must Democrats do differently to retain and expand that support in your estimation?

I've been having a lot of barbershop conversations and just people in my neighborhood.

And we talk shop.

And at the end of the day, they feel like the Democratic Party has abandoned them.

And I'm a big believer that it's time for a new generation of leadership.

And people in there are just going to have that fight.

Right now, people are ticked off at party leadership.

No matter what state, people, if you look at the polling,

the Dems aren't necessarily doing better than Trump right now.

And it's because we have left the base.

And what it means to be a real Democrat.

We don't have an identity crisis.

We're in a dinner crisis.

We don't even know what a Democrat stands for nowadays.

Stephen A, you talked about it a lot on your show.

And right now, for me, what a Democrat means to be is the party of the people.

And so we have to put aside all of the, not only all of the parties in rhetoric and politics,

but you can't serve two masters.

And right now, our districts and the people that live in them,

they feel like the Democratic Party is very similar to the Republican Party.

When it comes to the corporate interests.

And right now, our campaign just to let you know,

we're not taking any corporate pack money.

We don't have any corporate influence,

because we don't want our hands tied behind our backs.

When we are here fighting for the people in the halls of Lansing,

as well as soon to be in the halls of D.C.

So do you consider yourself a traditional Democrat or a progressive?

Like, meaning when we look at the extreme left,

and some of the progressives is won't culture,

cancel culture, some of the things I've lamented to be quite honest,

because I'm going to keep it a hundred with you.

You know, I don't, I love, you know, I respect the Democratic Party.

I'm a, I consider myself an independent,

then leaves Democrat, but not progressive Democrat.

I can tell you that much.

Which one do you consider yourself to be?

Steve and I, and I've heard you talk about it on your show.

I'm more, I lean towards, you know, you've got the center,

left Democrats, and then you got, you know,

the left Democrats on the progressive side.

My politics is more on the progressive side of things.

But I'm also pragmatic, because I'm willing to make sure that at the end of the day,

this is about bringing the resources back home to the district and the people we represent.

And so if it's not about the redistribution of resources,

that's how to find politics, then I need you to get out my way,

get out my face, because my people, the people that I represent need us to do everything possible

to make sure we bring back the bacon, bring home money and resources.

So they quality life can improve.

Representative McKinney, help me understand this, okay?

77 million people voted for Donald Trump.

Yeah.

They say that right now, the independent base in this country,

somebody that refuses to be associated with either party,

definitively, from an ideological perspective.

I'm one of those people.

We make up about 45%.

Being a progressive leftist, how is that possibly going to benefit?

This could tell me the benefits of being a progressive leftist

in a United States of America.

I want to hear you help me understand my brother.

I'm all ears.

I don't know how this question, because I have this dialogue in my own district,

and with so many other people across our state,

and it's going to be now with your listeners.

So at the end of the day, what's the beauty of progressivism?

The beauty of it is common sense policy, in my view.

Now, I hear you talk about it on your show.

Like, why can't people agree to make sure that we get something done out of this government?

And the reason why is because we are so prone to do the bidding of the corporate interest

and the special interest.

At the end of the day, people want us to do was right on their behalf.

And so, progressivism, to me, is common sense policy.

That is making sure that every family and every household

has access to clean and affordable water.

Making sure that people no matter what creed color you are,

no matter your economic status, that you have access to affordable health care.

At the end of the day, these are the common sense policies

that I believe progressivism and push that I think the American people want and need.

Well, I think the progressive policies that the progressive left is pushing.

I can respect where they're coming from from an emotional perspective,

but from a pragmatic perspective as a state representative who's had to deal with corporations,

you know how it goes better than me, better than most people.

And you know when you're needing money and you're needing financial assistance from corporate,

it's kind of hard to get it when you're, you're, you're, you're generating them because of what

they ain't doing. How you going to figure out how you going to get their help when you,

you know how it is representing the McKenny? Look, and I say that and I'll use the analogy.

Damage, y'all ain't worth the damn, you ain't been worth the damn.

You don't give a damn about anybody else. By the way, can I get some money?

How'd that go work? Help, help a brother understand. How'd it go work, Rep?

I need to know. I just need to know.

I got a story for you, Steven A.

And I just told it on the House floor. And it's about my grandfather because the speaker of

the House of Michigan introduced a resolution, you know commemorating 250 years of American history.

Right, we're celebrating America 250 this year. And you know, they were talking about how great

America is, but I had to share the story of my grandfather who literally fled him and my

great-grandparents flee the Jim Crow South to Detroit Michigan for a better life. He ended up

one of the most interesting things about my grandfather is that he worked for four more

of the company 42 years, never missed a day of work. And like this brother loved our country,

he loved Ford. And the reason why he never missed a day of work because he told me growing up,

Ford had his back. The corporation had his back. And so right now, I got people who are literally

slave and working two, three jobs trying to make ends meet. And the corporations for some reason

aren't necessarily having the backs of the working class people. And so they have to be held accountable.

They keep coming to us, and I want to corporations at the state level. I guarantee it happens at

the federal level. They come to us for corporate handouts. They come to us for all these subsidies

of our taxpayer money. But when it comes, when push comes to some, there's no long-term vision

how to make sure these jobs are kept. And people are honestly earning the most amount of money they

can to not only take care of their families, but look forward to a return. And so like we have to

get back to the basis in the fundamentals and we have to hold these corporations accountable.

That's what progressives are saying. That's what people like me are saying. And to be honest with

you, they kind of agree. I've talked to corporations. I have plenty of conversations. And they're like,

you know what, you're right. We're all about the bottom line nowadays instead of taking care

of the human capital. Talking to Representative Donovan McKinney right here with Steven A.

Straight shooting with Steven A. Before I let you get on out of here, just reminding everybody

you're the two-term incumbent you're going up against primarily. I mean, you're one,

there's five Democrats on the primary ballot. You're the main progressive challenger. You're going

to plan on going up against challenging two-term incumbent Representative Shreethander and Michigan's

13th Congressional District. He's a multi-millionaire. You've accused him of being more alarm,

a corporate interest than the working class district he represents. His campaign literally called

your campaign literally called his Detroit own Elon Musk. That's what you called them. It's just

a good one. By the way, it was a good one. I got to give you that. That was a good one right there.

I got to give that to you. But my last question to you would be this. If Democrats want to

win back swing voters in 2026, what should they stop talking about? And what should they

start talking about as of tomorrow morning? So I was saying we should stop talking about,

man, that's a, that's a storm question. Well, I would say to Steven A. Because I'm thinking

about it right now. They should stop talking about, at the end of the day, taking care of corporations

and doing what's best for them. At the end of the day, this is about getting our money out of

politics and making sure that at the end of the day, the people's voices are heard. We got to

get back to the fundamentals and basics. I cannot stress that enough, Steven A. And I appreciate

you allowing me to have this platform on your show. But like we have to, at the end of the day,

talk about working class values and the reason why people are struggling to make ends meet,

this is about understanding they have to have more of our earning potential and then building up

pathways and what our educational system, but also lowering the cost of everyday goods. And so gas

prices right now, I heard you're talking about that because of the idiotic things this administration

is doing, putting us in forever wars, like starting up a month and creating all this havoc and

confusion, aren't people that are realizing and they come to us crying for help saying, what are

you guys doing? We need you guys to lower these prices instead. You're figuring out ways to make

more money for the few. And so people are tired of the rhetoric, they're tired of the politics,

they need action, they want us to do something. And that's what our candidacy is about. That's what

we're about. And I'm just excited, man, because we're going to win this seat. It's a big, big,

it's too much to get into and we have to do this on another day, but you ain't lower in course

as long as the dollar continues to diminish in value. That's the bottom line. There's no way around

it. And so that's a different subject for another day. Representative McKinney out of the 11th

district running for the 13th congressional district in the state of Michigan. Really appreciate

your time. Thank you for coming on down to McKinney. I really, really appreciate it. Well, man,

all the best to you and we'll be here for you. We'll be watching.

Just to be reminded, God bless you, brother. Appreciate the time. God bless. All the best.

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Hey, Steven Cheryl from Texas. The Save Act is a solution in search of a problem.

The, it is the unfunded mandate just like to say the real idea act was which took 20 years

to implement instead of three because it's a burden on states and on citizens. It shifts the burden

of a state determining who is a US citizen onto every citizen to prove. The Save Act does not

determine or does not specify what documents are needed to prove a name change, say a marriage

license. Instead, it shifts that to the states. The states have to adopt rules after the Save Act

passes. This will definitely disenfranchise a lot of voters from all the all political spectrums.

Totally true. I don't have any disagreement with what she's saying, but I do believe that some

detractors for the Save Act have stupidly pointed to how it ensures only US citizens would vote,

which is supposed to be the law of the land anyway. So you're arguing against the law of the land.

But the bottom line is if you are a United States citizen and you have a driver's license and you

have a Social Security card, but you don't have a passport that shouldn't prohibit you from voting.

You know, I mean they need to clean up the system and not make it harder for the American citizen

to get an ID. And so that's what it is. I'm certainly not going to act like somebody who's married

and changed their name can't go to the Department of Motor Vehicles and other places and get an ID.

But the flip side to it is that it is arduous. It does take time and you have to do it. So you have

to do it. It's not impossible, but let's not act like everybody is going to be keen on doing it.

And because of that, it's not just illegal migrants who won't get to vote, which is appropriate and

the right thing to happen. But you're going to have American citizens that don't want to deal with

the headache and the arduous task of standing the line and taking care of all of this other stuff.

And as a result, they'll say, hey, we just won't vote. And chances are folks are betting on the fact

that most of those people are going to be Democrats instead of Republicans. Therefore, it will

assist in the GOP winning elections. So it's just a mess right now. It's clearly an agenda-driven

formula instigated by the President of the United States, who's hanging his hat on all of that,

is just the latest way to prove that the election in 2020 was rigged and he should have never left

office to begin with because he's on a vengeance tour. And that's really what this is going on.

And so it's not far-fetched to think that that's what this is all about, especially where every time

you turn around, he's trying to have his name on something. It's all a mess. It really, really is.

But let's get to the phones. At 8669-9667-887-86696-POTUS, let's go to Makali in New Jersey.

Yolava, Steven A. What's up?

Hey, Steven A. I'm Big Fang. I just want to talk to you about these gas prices right now.

The gas prices right now are absolutely just ridiculous. We're going on with the war in Iran.

I'm a college student at Rutgers University. And just, you know, I've been driving my car around,

you know, campus and whatnot. And these gas prices are just unbelievable in a war that I believe

that we- You do understand you're in Jersey, right?

I do. I do understand that. I'm in L.A. right now. Gas prices are nearly $6 a gallon.

Yes, yes. We have right right now about four and a half. It's real bad. It's still real bad

around here. Yeah. And I just think that the president right now with Donald Trump's doing,

I think it's just a mess. It's been a mess for the past year and a half now. And I just,

I just don't see a future with, you know, what he's doing right now is anything positive.

I will say this to you. I will say this to you. It's evil and what have you, but I'm not going

to lie. Well, what he did with Maduro and Venezuela. Well, what's happening in Cuba and how it's

become a humanitarian crisis there. And who knows what we're going to do with Cuba? If somehow,

some way, you know, we're able to infiltrate the proceedings and the straight-of-humus and

other matters are resolved. And, you know, we, we, we have a saying, we have a stake in oil emanating

out of that region that is going to put us in a considerably better position than we ever were

before. And I won't deny the possibility of that happening could be exponentially beneficial

to the United States of America. But it seems far-fetched that that would happen.

One must wonder how the Middle East region would feel about that. But I will share something to

you that happened to me last night. And I think everybody needs to notice, McCauley.

I'm driving home and I have a driver that's, I land in LA and I have a driver that's taking me home.

And he was Iranian. And he was talking about how 50,000 people were killed in two days

by the Ayatollah Khmerni and, and you know, his henchmen because they were protesting what was

going on. They were talking about the cost of living, how significantly their dollar has been

devalued, how only 10% of the population is remotely affluent, 90% of the population is

poor and impoverished and really, really struggling and how happy and ecstatic that they are that both

Israel and the United States of America are doing what they're doing. And so if you're the

President of the United States along with Israel and that is truly how the people of Iran feel

in the end, the means may be justified. It's just that we don't see it at this particular moment in

time here in the United States of America. And it's something that we just have to pay attention to.

Plain is simple. Appreciate the call. Thank you so much. Let's go to Nick in Washington.

You live with Stephen A. What's up Nick? Talk to me. What's up Stephen A? Go ahead, man.

Yeah, I just want to say to you that I can listen to you for a few weeks and wow, damn,

you're correct on a lot of stuff. And I just love it that you're direct and you're not afraid to say

what needs to be said, you know. Thank you. Just love it. You know, I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan.

You know, I got a beating star and not a heart. Yeah, you know, it's hard to hear you say

something about the Cowboys, but a lot of stuff. It's true. You know, and just I love it that

you're a straight shooter. You know, and what you're talking about here is is correct. You know,

a lot of it has to stop. I mean, with a special interest money that's going in.

And let me turn limits on the Congress, you know, maybe an age limit, a 85 or something.

Citizens United changed all of that. Not only can people donate unlimited dollars to campaigns

and stuff like that, you can also do it via dark money as well. You don't always have to reveal

who the donors are and stuff like that. I mean, Citizens United, that ruling back in 2010,

it changed the course of politics practically forever. So, you know, in terms of corporate

influence and, you know, these, these packs, political, political action committees and all of this

other stuff, I hope you're not hoping for better times in regards to that because it ain't coming.

It ain't coming. No, it's money. And again, the money is the root of all evil. And it's just

rupting politics. And it's not just happening on Trump. It's been happening, you know.

And it's just, you know, right now, it's just blatant. But he's a proud figurehead of it.

And that's what makes him more guilty than most because this man has come into office and at

a time where they're spending a billion dollars, you know, and folks not receiving a check

and stuff in this course and TSA work as a billion dollars. And all of this other stuff is going on.

And Christie Knones was a Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. She's spending

about 300 million dollars on planes. And Lord knows what the hell heg set this doing. And you see

what Trump and his minions are doing. It's ridiculous. It really, really is. And I'm not going to

sit up there and engage in histrionics and disrespecting folks and all of this other stuff. But we

deserve better from our leaders. And why you taking care of yourself at least make sure to take

care of us. And that is not what's happening. 866-067-687-866-969-6 podis. Our number two

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Hey, in our reporting, let's speak lots of young voters. Many of them voted for President Trump

for the first time in 2024. You're hoping to have no more wars and have lower prices. Now with the

war taking place and with gas prices going up, here's what President Trump's message would be to

those voters who kind of swung into his coalition in 2024. But maybe don't feel the administration

is going as they expect it. President Trump is doing this for you. He's doing this for young people

so that we are no longer threatened by a rogue terrorist regime in the Middle East. That seeks

to kill the brave men and women who serve in our country in the Middle East. Many of them,

young people themselves, young men and women who serve this country honorably in uniform and

have been threatened, killed and named by the rogue Iranian terrorist regime for 47 years.

President Trump finally had the courage to step up and do what's right by our national security,

our homeland security. As for the temporary short-term fluctuation in gas prices, the President

has said once these combat operations are over, this administration is going to continue to unleash

American energy dominance. We're continuing to do that every day and we're going to see

pike prices at the pump go back down just as we have over the past year because of this President.

I love it. He definitely does a hell of a job supporting the President no matter what the

hell he does. You know, doubt about that. Welcome back straight to you to the theaters truly,

Stephen A. Coming at you as I love to do every Wednesday night from 6 to 8 pm over the airways

of Sirius XM, Portus Radio, Channel 124. Before I get back to the phone calls,

I want to bring my next guest on the line. He is a co-founder of the brand new Congress and

co-director of Justice Democrats, two grassroots organizations working to elect progressive

Democrats to Congress. He also served as a communications director for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

and as a national strategist for Bernie Sanders, President you campaign. Please welcome to

Straight Shooter with Stephen A. Mr. Corbin Trent. Thank you for coming on to the show. Let's get

right to it. Why should anybody want to vote for a progressive Democrat in the year 2026?

I mean, I think you want to vote for candidates with a big bold vision with the vision for

different America. Well, I was just thinking about before I came on here because I know you got

like this sports background, right? And I was just thinking how little America's plan as a team

right now, you know, whether it's Democrats with each other, Republicans with each other,

you know, community states, whatever it is. There is no goal. You know, it's like we've just got all

these various states, various companies, various interests just playing for themselves. And there's

no unifying mission. And I think that whether it's progressives, whether it's people, you know,

I think generally speaking, the Democratic Party, when you've seen America do big stuff,

whether it's the Interstate Highway system or the TVA system or the aqueduct system in California,

whether it's, you know, the subway systems, it's been Democrats that did it. Got us to the moon,

the thing, you know, whether it's Medicare, whether it's Social Security, Democrats, Democrats,

Democrats. So my guess is is that the Democratic Party has that still left in their DNA. At

least some of the people do, you know, that's why I would vote for somebody with it. But it's not,

you know, like, you think my, you know, they ain't Gavin Newsom, they ain't, uh, you know,

old Joe Biden, those aren't the people, you know, what you got to find is people with energy,

with vision, ready to do the work, turn the country around. And I know a lot of people,

I'm from Appalachia, and they thought that was going to be Donald Trump. But they got who do?

They got hoodwink, you know, that I wasn't his goal from beginning, his goal from beginning

was get rich and do his own thing. You never had any interest in politics, according to my research,

but now you call yourself a progressive hillbilly who likes to go out Fox News. The word progressive

means many things to many people. And I'm asking you to explain what that term means to you.

I don't know that I don't particularly, you know, like I got behind me, this big TBA symbol,

I got this damn over here that's actually less than a mile from my house. And I suppose

progressive means progress means building means providing it means working towards a more

fairer, better future for more people. That's what progressive means. And I think there's a lot

of ways to do that in healthcare. I think there's a lot of ways to do that in our industry. There's

a lot of ways to do that in our infrastructure. But it generally takes people coming together to

work toward the common mission. And for whatever reason, it seems like we only do that when we're

either at war, we're attacked, or when something terrible happens, like a great depression or,

you know, the Soviet Union's breathing down our neck. So we're going to, you know, try to do a cold

war and get the moon and a lunar race and things like that space race. So for me, progress,

progressive is trying to replicate that same energy, that same passion for building for progress,

for transformation without disaster, right? Just doing it because we know we can do it,

because life's going to be better for me, for you, for my kids, and for everybody else's kids.

COVID, what do you say to folks on different sides of the aisle, on a different side of the aisle,

that listens to that and they say, okay, you know what, what he's proposing in all likelihood

involves the heavy hand of the government looking out for the desolate, the disenfranchising everybody

in between, right? And as a result, it's more of a replication of socialism, communism,

fascism, these are the kind of things that folks, they throw out these kind of words.

What do you believe? How do you think progressivism is affected by those accusations?

I think people are scared to death of their own beliefs. You know, that's one thing that separates

me from a lot of progressives, I guess, is that I have the courage in my convictions.

Okay. You know, like I look back at our history as a country. I look back at things that we've

done well, things that we've done poorly. What I see is that, like for example, there's this

thing called the Rule Electrification Act, and that was something we did from the 30s all the way

through into the 50s. And we electrified not just the South, but all of rule America. And we did

it very quickly, you know, over a period of like 20 years. Now, it wasn't just the federal government

doing it. The federal government provided the infrastructure. They provided the training,

the engineering, they provided the dollars. They provided a lot of the know-how. But local

communities did it. Local communities administrative it. Local communities built it.

I think in the, you know, in a really functional system, like for example, the health care system,

right now we're paying almost six trillion dollars a year for health care. And it's a

hodgepodge of weird insurances, hodgepodge of weird non-profits and for-profits and public

this and public that, you know, in private that. Now, if you go back to 1980s,

the hospital, for example, that I was born in in 1980 was owned by the county and by the city.

I was born in Morristown, Hamlin Hospital in Rule East Tennessee. And the city in the county

owned that hospital. And that's the case all across this country. Used to be about 45% of our

health care, the actual doctors, the infrastructure, the clinics, the hospitals were owned by communities.

They were owned by the state. They were owned by cities and counties. And what that gave us was

a competitive advantage with the other people that were trying to extract profit from the health

care system. They tell us, oh, this triple bypass is going to cost $100,000. We'd say, no,

it's not. How do we know? Because we did, too, yesterday. And we know what they cost, right?

So the thing is, when we had public competition, whether it was in railway, whether it was in roadway,

whether it was in health care, one of the way advantages that gives you, like I'm in the construction

trader was until Trump got reelected. And if I'm going to do quotes, hey, I got to know what

my competition's quoting, but B, I got to know the cost. If I'm going to buy something from a

supplier, the better I understand the cost of that product, the more I'm going to be able to understand

how much negotiation room I have. And right now, we've got a government that's filled with people

that don't know the cost of anything because we don't do anything anymore. They have pushed all the

doing, all the building, all the know how for decades out of the government and into the private

sector, or even worse, really, is the nonprofit sector. Because I'll tell you, the nonprofit

sector is filled with people that are getting a lot of money to do very, very little. And I just

think we're ill prepared. We're ill prepared for the future. We're ill prepared for where

how advanced China's become. We're ill prepared for where AI is taking us. We don't have the social

and government infrastructure to do the rapid kind of changes that we need. People talk about

like a lot of Trump supporters I talk to when I talk about revamping the industrial based

America, because that's something I'm really into is rebuilding factories, right? And getting back

to having the ability to create the things that we and the world need, because we don't produce

most of that stuff anymore. And they say, well, Trump's trying to do that with a tariffs and this

and that. And then I try to remind them, probably as it so long ago, of when we were really ramping

up our manufacturing. And that was in the 40s and that was for World War II. And we were going from

field to factory in 18 months. We had a Ford plant that went from producing one plane a year

to one plane a minute in like two and a half years. So like there is what we call like Trump called

it during the pandemic operation warp speed, right? If you think that you're facing an existential

crisis, because you no longer make the things that you need, you no longer have the value that you

had as a nation to the rest of the world, except like maybe not bombing people. That's our big value

to the world now. Hey, if you're if you're nice to us, we won't bomb you or we won't put a tariff on

you. You know, we used to be exporting cool music, cool clothes, cool cars. We made cool stuff.

We were like, cool kids, but Corbin is my deal. But I got that. I got that. But, but you're talking

about the 40s, 50s. Let's go. You got Kennedy's in the Kennedy and Linda B Johnson in the 60s.

You got Jimmy Carter in the 70s. You know, you got you had Reagan and HW through the 90s,

decades. I get that Paul Clinton in the 90s. Okay. Barack Obama in 2008 to 2016. There

have been Democrats in the mix throughout all of this as well. What level of culpability do you

attach to them as it pertains to what is transpired in this country in terms of what you might have

to complain about? We know how you feel about the other side of what they've done. What about the

Democrats? I think they're absolutely. I mean, I think there's a couple of party. If you want to

call it that, there are certain parts of the economics, for example, that are like the mainstream

Republicans for decades and mainstream Democrats didn't have a lot of room between them, right?

It was we want to ship all the jobs offshore. We want to let the, you know, wherever it's cheaper to

get it made, that's where it should go, right? It's just the way the market works. That was definitely

Democrats. You know, I mean, I can remember I was in middle school when Ross Perot was talking

about the giant sucking sound of jobs going to Mexico, right? And people around me were really

inspired by Ross Perot's vision of, you know, what was going to happen if we did that and his desire

to stop it. So when I tell people how much I love the current iteration of Democratic Party,

they sort of don't get why I'm still a Democrat, right? And I tell him like, you know, the thing is,

like somebody drives by my house and throws a Molotov cocktail in. I'm going to be really mad at

those people. Super mad. I wanted to go to jail. But if the fire department shows up later and stands

there while it's burning and won't put it out, I'm actually going to be even more enraged at the

fire department. And for me, the Democratic Party was the fire department. So they saw, you know,

all this coming, maybe they didn't want to see it coming, but it was, you know, it didn't take

a genius to see what happens if you give away like, you know, the funny thing you were mentioned

earlier, communism, right? Yeah. Now one of the things that we did not want to do about communism

is one of the, what is it called the means of production, right? Yes. The communist wanted to

seize the means of production for the people. Now the crazy thing about the way we've done it over

the last 40 years, 50 years, we didn't, nobody sees it. We actually gave away the means of production.

China, did you pan the India, to Brazil? Like if the means of production were so powerful that if

the people had it, that they would be unstoppable. And therefore, you know, communism would override

everything. And they'd be, you know, there's all powerful entity. Why on the heck didn't we keep it?

Why didn't we keep the means of production? Why didn't we keep the ability to make our own

batteries, our own energy grid, our own transformers, our own water systems? But you do, but Corbin,

you do understand what you're saying, though, in a roundabout way, what you're saying is,

this is how I'm going to interpret it. You could correct it. But the way I'm hearing you,

you're holding the Democrats just as if not more culpable than the GOP. But the progressive

Democrats are a different breed. And because of them, they're more aligned with your level of thinking.

And that's what, and that's, and that's where you are. I'm thinking along the lines of,

how is that going to help the Democratic Party? Because you're basically saying, listen,

is it, you're almost treating a progressive movement like it's a third party? As opposed to a part of

the Democratic Party. There's no way to do that. Yeah, but I'm saying it can't be. So how is that

going to work for you? Because that's a house divided, and you're certainly not going to do much

to galvanize it. If you're thinking the way you're thinking, and I'm not saying you're wrong,

I'm just saying that's not going to serve the purpose of galvanizing one party to make sure

that it's more successful than the other. So we're running our government.

So Steve, what happened in 1930s after the Depression? So you had a trifecta of Republicans.

They had the House, the Senate, and they had the presidency. And then in three cycles,

six years, it went to a Democratic supermajority. And FDR was going around running against Democrats,

primarying those Democrats, running against them, running them out of the party,

because they weren't on board with a new deal. They weren't on board with where things were going,

and he was pushing them out. That is what has to happen. So a lot of times, because I used to do

some consultant in these candidates who asked me, how can I stand out, or how can I be authentic,

or whatever the heck they used people ask you. And I say, well, talk about the party having to be

different. Like if America needs to be different, and the Democrats are going to lead us down that

road of being different, being better, then they have to be different, and they have to be better.

I mean, like I was watching Obama the other day, talk about running the circles about how great

Obamacare was, right? Yeah. He was doing these videos. It was like the anniversary.

I saw him. I saw him. And now what's interesting is, for the last year, I've been listening to

the Democratic Party tell me that if the enhanced subsidies expire on health care, on Obamacare,

then it's going to be a disaster. Then it's going to be cataclysmic, horrible economic conditions

for Americans. And I'm not disagreeing with that. But what they're talking about happening is us

returning to Obamacare. What they're talking about is us going back to the thing that Obama was

cheering about four or five days ago, right? So without that sort of like introspection of like,

well, actually maybe Obama, the Obama Trump voters, maybe there's a reason they went from Obama

to Trump. I was like the first candidate I ever got pumped about with Obama. I drove for like two

hours to watch him speak in 2007, right? I was like in. I started a, I did a watch party. I never

done any of that. It wasn't my, wasn't my thing, right? I was watching the elections. I was so

excited about candidate Barack Obama. And then I was so disappointed in President Barack Obama.

Everything was, yes, we can until they were in. And it was like, ah, we thought we could,

but we can't, you know? And like, I just don't understand why people don't believe in this country

more than they do and the people of this country more than they do. And I think when the democratic

party wakes up and more and more of them are, more and more of these candidates are out there

waking up in their understanding. Like the price of living is beyond our capacity to afford it.

It's becoming unsustainable. Some things got to give, right? And, you know, Donald Trump,

God bless him. He's doing this. He's going around starting wars, kidnapping people,

trying to compete with China through that. It's, it's not going to work. China is outperforming us

in robotics. They're outperforming us in engineering. Used to be China just copied what we did.

Sam Walton famously said in his book, Made in America. For a long time, all Walmart had to do

is copy Kmart. We didn't have to innovate anything till we got out in front, right? That's

all we had to do. Well, now China's starting to inch out in front in certain places and they're

going to be innovating and they're going to be leading. And I'm not saying, you know, like,

there's this idea that we're going to eventually end up in a war with China. How about we just try

to out-develop our nations? How about we compete with which people have a better quality of life?

Which people have more access to healthcare? Which people have more access to housing? Which people

have more access to time off and travel, you know? That seems like a better competition made

than who can shoot more missiles at each other. Understood, understood. You live in a deep red rural

community. Who do you hear from your neighbors heading into the midterms? What do you hear from them?

I mean, you know, it's interesting because Tennessee was like the birthplace of the Ku Klux Klan,

right? But it was also the birthplace of a thing called the Highlander Center, which trained

these people during the civil rights movement, right? So you've got this sort of bifurcated society

in Tennessee. You got both extremes and then you got a lot of people that just don't care

one way or another. So it depends on who you're talking to, obviously. But, you know, what I'm

hearing, Democrats are just scared of their own shadow around here. Like, I talk to people that

don't want to put yard signs in their yard because they're afraid of their neighbors being mean to

them. And then you got the MAGA crowd and they'll walk around the red hat on their gun on their

hip, you know? So it's a very different, but what I'm hearing is is that life's not affordable.

People are struggling to get ahead. I mean, I, you know, young people, my daughter's 18. She lives,

you know, she's got a shoe shed, lives in the backyard. And she, you know, she makes pretty decent

money. She's making like 17 an hour on her part-time job while she's in college. But she can get a

place. She can't, you know, apartment around here studio is 1650 in a rural community. 1650.

Makes sense. Makes sense. You know, make life better for me. Did you, did you, did you fold for

Trump? No, no, I didn't. You never voted for Trump, right? I wanted to make sure about that.

You know, I wanted to make sure, because I know I read somewhere. I was like, what? That doesn't

make sense. He doesn't sound like somebody to vote for Trump. So, all right. That's, that's, that's,

I want to make sure I got that question out of the way. Let me move on from there. You argue

that Democrats won't win by just moderating. Then what is the three-word message that actually

gets working class voters back in your estimation? I mean, what are the three words?

Two words, three words, five words. Work together for America. I mean, I think that there is so

much cynicism and disbelief that we can do things that our government can do things. There's

a disbelief that we have any real control over where we hit our direction, right? And again,

like this, I was thinking, I don't know why I was saying, I guess, because I was going to be

talking to you, I was thinking about things through sports. But like, imagine a team that didn't have

a plan, right? They didn't have a plan for what they're going to do with their season. They didn't

know, which, you know, they didn't know that their guard's good, where their talent is. They

didn't know what they're, they didn't have any plan whatsoever. And they're just going to go

in a season to see what happens, right? I think that's doomed for failure. And I feel like, for a

long time, we had such an amazing team. America was so far ahead of everybody else that we could win

with basically doing nothing, right? But we've sort of run out of that steam. We're not that far

ahead anymore. We've got bubbles everywhere in our economy. So I think the message is going to land

is actually, we are going to have to build millions and millions of units of housing. Actually,

we are going to have to rebuild our manufacturing capacity. How are you going to pay for?

You pay, I would use American dollars, but we can, you know, we can do whatever you want to do.

I guess crypto. No, you pay for it. Like, we've got a $30 trillion dollar economy. You pay for it

by building stuff. We got $39 trillion in debt. We got $30.9 trillion in debt, Corbin.

What did we get with that debt? That's the other thing you got to look at. China's got debt too.

But what they built with that debt is a massive industrial base. Robots doing back flips.

You know, the ability to make AI that's competitive with ours much cheaper. They built the ability to

have BYD, these automotive companies that are building the next generation of EVs. You know, so

the question, Apple's in debt, right? A lot of everybody goes in debt. People at own a house

are in debt. Death's part of it. But the question is not, are you in debt? The question is, what are

you doing with your debt? And what we're doing with our debt is getting rich people richer and poor

people poorer. And that's it. And instead of building something that's useful for everybody else.

So there's going to be, you know, like, all right. Again, healthcare, I think is a great place

to look. Six trillion dollars a year, we spend six trillion. Okay. Okay. And let me, let me go

ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. Finch has a finch chance to go ahead. I just want to say, and what

we're getting is less and less healthcare 80% of American counties are in healthcare deserts.

If more money would fix healthcare, I don't disagree with you. I just think the Democrats have

been a part of the problem. And I don't know how much of a part of the solution they're going to be

able to be, they're going to be able to be a part of what, what, what, what the kind of things

that you're proposing because it sounds great. But getting people on board to follow that kind of

vision, I find very hard to believe. Let me ask you this question. Communication is

directed for AOC, obviously a national strategy is for Bernie Sanders. If one of them were in office

instead of a Trump or even an Obama or Biden, what would this country look like?

I mean, I think if one of them was in up, like if I got to put one in a Petri dish or whatever,

mix it up, then I would have, I would have somebody that's like 15% Trump, you know, 40% AOC,

and then we'll do the rest. 40. 40. I mean, she's got such a vision of justice, of morality,

of courage. She's sharp as a whip. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. She didn't see, you know, you do know

that she didn't seem that sharp in Germany. I'm not going to hold that against her forever. I'm

not going to hold that against that all. But when she rolled up, it's a time fly, of course,

you can't fly, Corbin, you can't fly across the ocean for an event and then be unprepared for

the damn event that you flew across the ocean to attend. You know, you can't do that, right?

Particularly on a world stage when you're trying to show the world that you wanted to leave,

is you know that, right? Yeah, when the best look in the world. But, you know, I think the China

question is such a, especially China, Taiwan, you know, it's just something that every American

leader's been fumbling with and they usually just say nonsense is usually what they do. They just

bowed a bunch of nonsense that says we're going to kind of protect Taiwan, but we're not going to

say that, you know, we're going to do the, you know, the one country, you know, so I mean,

they sort of like abdicate to the, to the whole diplomatic solution that they've got worked out

right now. Okay. And anyway, but you know, the thing that is useful about Trump is that he has a

disdain for the process. He has a disdain for a lot of the institutions as opposed to a reverence

for the institutions. And I think that for us to truly have the reforms that we need and have

change, then you can't treat every one of these institutions as sacred cows, you know, like what's

ironic to me is that people say there's a revolving door between Wall Street and SEC. There's a revolving

door between Farma and the FDA, right? They know that like, for example, I was thinking you, you know,

we were listening to that woman, the spokesperson for the White House talk about how many people

Iranians had killed, right? Now, just thinking the Sackler family, which was the company that,

the owners of the company that produced OxyCotton, definitely killed more people where I'm from than

in Iranians did. So just as far as how many Americans are dead because of this person or that person,

Sackler family did a lot more death than brought a lot more death to where I'm at.

Before I get on out here, let me ask you this one last question because it's on my mind about

the Democrats. I think it's safe to say they've been losing, you know, the cultural moderates,

economically stressed voters. Both of those, I mean, we know this. The question that I'd have for

you is what is the heart of truth, the party's message and whether or not it's wrong or the messages,

and it's the messages that are wrong when it comes to your party. Is it about the message or

is it about the messages? I think it's about the combination of the two. I think part of the

problem is when you have people that are trying to say things they don't believe in, right? And when

you pick people and you try to tell them, here's a bunch of poll tested, you know, focus group tested

stuff that we want you to say and it doesn't actually align with what they believe about the world,

their worldview or their economic ideas or any of that, then you got a problem because then they

look like they're full of it. You know, when, when I tell you what I believe, it's easy because I

just talk, right? Now, if I try to be calculating and tell you things that I think you want to hear

or things that I think will play well your audience, then it's going to be harder. You know, like,

if I try to talk about sports long, I almost stumble around because I don't know nothing about it,

right? I know. So I think that's part of the problem. And the biggest problem is that they've

still got most of their bench thinks that it's going to be our economic problems are going to be

solved by the free market. And it's just not going to happen. The free market needs to have more

competition that it has. And what's going to compete with you not at health care,

signal? So you get like four or five companies that just sort of sit around and rake it in,

you need somebody to compete with them. And I don't think there's anything big enough, strong enough

and more powerful than the American people, you not need to do such a thing. And that means

the federal government and our state and local governments.

Co-founder brand new Congress, man was a communications director of Alexandria,

Ocasio-Cortez and the National Strategist for Bernie Sanders,

Corbin Trent to the show, Straight Shooter with Stephen A. Appreciate your time, man. Thank you so

much for the conversation. Really enjoyed it. Thank you. Take care.

It's a lot to unpack right there. No doubt about that. And I'm certainly going to do that with

the callers and then some up next. So stick around on going anywhere. You listen live, Straight Shooter.

Straight Shooter with Stephen A. Back with your calls in more in a minute.

What's up, Stephen A? Hope you're having a good one. My name is Tate and I'm from Washington, DC.

I'm a conservative. And I just wanted to ask you what you thought about DEI programs.

My main issue with these programs is that to adjust for outcomes that could be or could not be

because of discrimination, DEI put into practice deliberately discriminates on the basis of race,

which we would probably agree is not a good thing. And I was wondering what you think about

the status quo of DEI programs right now and what you would do to possibly fix the issues

underlying them and provide equal opportunity to all Americans. Thank you so much. Have a good one.

Appreciate that message from the caller. He wrote in, called in, series6m.com slash get series

to series6m.com slash get series. That's where you go to send your voicemail messages. We talk

about DEI. First order of business, let's be accurate about DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.

What bothers me about DEI is that everybody's always looking at black people when it comes to DEI,

when in fact the biggest beneficiaries of DEI have been white women. Similar to affirmative action

if we're being honest. And that annoys me because the benefits to the black community are not anywhere

near what you think it is. And we just need to be very, very honest about that. Secondly,

ladies and gentlemen, and I say this with all fairness, it's not something I live on,

focus on or even talk about very often. But white America has to stop with its resentment and

just acknowledge what's really bothering you is fear. The white population at one time in this

country was near 90% and it's dipped continuously throughout the decades. And as we sit here in the

year 2026, it's at approximately 57% in dipping. So what all of these immigration issues and what

have you, what you're seeing is a society, a white society in the United States of America that's

incredibly fearful that the numbers are continuing to dip and before long it won't even be their country

because the vast majority of individuals in this nation will be migrants, immigrants,

particularly of Hispanic descent. That's your fear. It's respected. As far as I'm concerned,

I understand that. If this is your country and all of a sudden you're losing in numbers and you're

losing in influence in cash, and ultimately power is something that's going to concern you,

I get that. But there's a flip side to this coin that you don't take into consideration as it

pertains to the individual's question about DEI. When we talk about racial preferences,

that's the word you could use. What we could say is it's equaling the playing field

because for far too long throughout American history, if you were white, you had an upper hand

and you had an advantage. And some would even argue that in this very day, you're still

arguing whether it's 25, 50 or 50 yards ahead, you still got a head start because the system has

dictated that for you. And so an effort to even even a playing field is not a crime. It's bringing

attention to the inequities and the inequities that were exacted against disenfranchised communities

in this country. And that in and of itself is criminal. And it was a crime that was being corrected.

Now, this is not what it was in the 60s that I get that. And times have indeed improved.

And the blockages that existed, the roadblocks that existed in the past certainly are not the same now.

Well, it's not act like they've been completely eradicated.

We know better. Let's at least acknowledge that.

866-9667-887. That's 8696-POTUS. Back to the phones when we go.

Let's go to Rob in California. A lot of us, Steve and A. What's up Rob?

Steve and A, my man. It is so good to hear you. I was so excited when you got on this show.

I have followed you in your sports career for years. And here's what I've always loved about

you, my friend. Like a lot of us from New Jersey, you're good in a conversation. You're not afraid at

discourse. You believe what you believe. You were not bored knowing all things. You just have a

really good way of taking current events and communicating them and inviting good discourse.

And I love it. I agree with you 100%. I'm so many of the things you say. I'm sure you're going to

say things I don't agree with. And that's okay, too, because I love it. And I love hearing you.

We got to get you to a bigger audience and concise. I'd like to address a couple things. You

started off this great, great, great show with and followed it up with those great, great guests

that you had on. Thank you for that. Thank you, man. I appreciate those words, Rob.

It means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate it.

Keep it coming, man. Keep the love coming. I'm here for it.

Steve and Michigan, you live with Steve and A. Talk to me.

Yeah, first go blue. Hey, sir, I have to say I was going to talk about something else,

but I want to say I would consider myself a progressive. And that guy, Trent, what a disaster.

You asked him questions about what would he say why people should take on progress?

I say retract the big, beautiful bill so the money goes to people who need it. Stop fighting

the Saudi, the UAE, and Israel's war and save a billion dollars a day. Go to all the money

made through graph and inside of trading by the Trump administration in Congress.

Revive tax was for that revenue obtained to investments attacked higher, not less than those

earnings that are done by actually working. And then I would talk about triple up economics.

That is good business to raise up the poor. Kids getting chalk here in better public schools,

get kids food on the table and stable housing, give quality healthcare to all,

make community college free so you can support jobs that we needed and certainly could you certainly

could be you certainly could be doing that as that's paying to spend the 800 million to two billion

a day for a war in the Middle East. You certainly could do that. No doubt you think absolutely.

You bring up the poor. What are they going to do? They're going to spend money on computers,

on cars, on groceries, on travel. Raise up the poor. That's a progressive mention that we should

be having. I don't even know what that guy talked about. Okay. I appreciate the call, Steve.

Thank you so much. Let's go to the phones. Let's go. Let's keep going to these phones. Let's go to

Sean and Missouri. You live at Steve and A. What's up? Sean, how are you?

Hey, Steve and A. Big fan. I consider myself a constitutional conservative.

Who's a big fan of Mark? The great one live in and Ted Coffle. I have a question for you regarding

Mark Wayne Moan. Yes, sir. Since you often discuss discipline, you know, regarding sports,

do you think Moan's MMA background would make him a tough leader for DHS or do you think

he has a low impulse control, which Rand Paul is what that's what he said. Rand Paul highlighted

it very astutely. And I think that when he had to be chastised and refrained by Senator Bernie Sanders

from going after a union, a team's president, that he challenged to a fight on the Senate floor.

I don't think that's a good look for him. No doubt about that. But we all make mistakes.

And Mark Wayne Moan, you know, he could be a tough guy, whatever it is, didn't serve in the military.

Obviously, it's not a, you know, not a four-year college graduate, graduate from a community college.

I don't want to hear anybody else complaining about the education of Judge

Katanjee Brown Jackson anymore when you consider his education in comparison. But I'm not judging

him. I think he's a significant upgrade from Christy Nome. Ain't nobody going to be worse than her.

And I think that, you know, again, tough guy, whatever, following the law of the land, being

constitutionally correct and up to par, I think goes a long way. And if he's willing to follow

the constitution, if they're not going to go into people's homes without a search warrant or

anything like that, if they're not going to violate people's civil rights, you know, I think

that, well, I think that we'll be fine. Now, obviously, you know, you can't run from law

enforcement for ICE or anybody or the CBP and then run into a home and think they can't come

after you in the home when they saw you run in there. Of course, that stuff, that kind of stuff

can't happen. But I do think that you needed somebody that wasn't interested in being a showman

and they were interested in getting a job done. And I think it's a chance anyway that that could

potentially be him. You know, Christy Nome was spending millions upon millions of dollars

promoting herself, doing commercials featuring her and all of this other stuff. That is utterly

ridiculous. That kind of stuff can happen. And oh, by the way, Sean, I'm not trying to get into

anybody's personal business. I don't roll like that or whatever. But when you are testifying

on Capitol Hill and your husband is in attendance and an elected official ask you whether or not

you are having an extra marital affair with a subordinate.

Simply saying it's a disgusting question while refusing to give an answer.

I don't know about the rest of y'all. But if I was a husband, we'd have a problem when I got

her home. I'll tell you that right now. We'd have a problem because that woman did not answer that

question. She never answered that question. You know what I'm talking about. She was a disaster.

And all of that is relevant because anybody is going to be an upgrade to her,

including Mark Waymullen. Those are my thoughts. Dave in California,

you're live with Stephen A. Go ahead. Hey Steve, I tell you what I was listening earlier.

I had a couple of things. I'm totally blind, right? And my dad was totally blind. He ran

what's called a dry stand. You know, annoyed. They had the Randolph Shepard Act that said they had

to hire blind people to do certain work. Other than that, we were supposed to go around with our

10 kelp and that was it, you know? And so I have kind of mixed emotions, but I think everybody needs

a chance. You know, and another thing is he was saying that got the last politician. He was saying

something about the Democrats built the highways. If I remember right, and I would

Democrat, but if I remember right, it was ice in the hour of the built the federal highway system.

Okay. All right. Appreciate the call, man. Jot Javier in Texas. She'll live with Stephen A. What's

going on, Javier? Hey, Stephen A. How you doing, man? I'm doing all right. Talk to me. The

beautiful stay down here in Texas. Yes, sir. What's going on? I've got a comment on the

save act. Man, there's so much to unpack on that deal. But I mean, first off, I'm going to tell you,

I'm an independent, but I do lean conservative. I'm down here in South Texas. I love my guns and

I love my money. And I don't want anybody taking it part of it. But based on today's politics and

the stuff that's going on, man, they're pushing me the other direction. The save act, you know,

I come from a family who would 100% be disenfranchised just by some of the things that they're

introducing out there. But let me play devil's advocate for a second. Okay. Number one,

how do you overcome the 24th amendment? The fact that it's a poll fact at the end of the day,

it can't cost any money to get this ID. Second, you want to make a, you want to make a federal ID?

Let's make a federal ID. That's what I said. Make sure that everybody has, it's free to everybody.

It's a locally available example. That's exactly what I proposed last week, Javier. Javier,

I proposed that last week. It shouldn't cost you a dime. It should be free and given to anybody

who's in the United States citizen. Simple. And if you do that, then there's no argument against it

and everybody wins. I mean, the other thing that kills me is there's no real issue, though.

I mean, if you take the 2020 election five or six states were, were checked by the AP,

how many was it? No, it's 50 million people, 475 possible fraud, 0.0018%.

There's no issue. It's completely to get in front of a whole section of people.

So, Javier, are you telling me you're down in Texas and as a right winger, you about to go left

because of what you see? Let me tell you something. I'm going to vote for Mr. Talleriko, man.

100%. And I have, I haven't voted Democrats since I was 20 years old. Wow.

Because you're that disgusted with the right. I am absolutely disgusted with the way it's going.

But I'll tell you, I'm not much happier with the left. But Javier is different deal.

Why do you think Talleriko is different? Man, he speaks from the heart. He says the things

that are correct. He actually, he actually was in a school down here at San Antonio. And I know

some of the people that he knows. And the guy is the real deal, man. He's not a lying person.

Okay. That's good to know. Javier, I appreciate the call, man. Thank you so much.

Jubilee Maddoxinics, I'm sorry, 866-967-887, it's 866-966-Potas.

Back with your calls to close out the show in a minute. It's straight shooter, which yours truly.

Don't go away. Go and do a show in a minute.

So, we want to bring out Mr. the President of the United States at just a moment.

I thank him for his unwavering commitment to the American people. And because of that,

it is our honor on behalf of all House Republicans, all of you here at All Patriots across the country

present the very first America First Award to the 45th and the 47th president of the United States,

Donald J. Trump. Mr. President, come on out.

I think I'm going to throw up. I mean, I might just vomit.

At a time when all of this is going on, talk about being tone deaf, talk about being detached.

This is the Republican Congressional dinner. And the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,

is awarding Trump some great American awards, some gold statue. It's just so embarrassing.

It's so embarrassing. See, this is the problem right here, ladies and gentlemen.

It's the foring of this president. That's why you can't trust anything.

Because it's like it's a requirement to kiss his ass. You can't just do your job.

It has to be, I mean, they could get him a cup of coffee. And before handing him a cup of coffee,

everything is thank you for your great service to the American people, Mr. President.

Thank you for being the great leader that you are, or whatever. It's embarrassing.

When you see Pete Hakeseth acting like he doing Saturday morning on Fox News instead of being

the Defense Secretary, the Secretary of War, it's where it comes from. When he saw Christy

Known kissing his, his, his behind at every turn, applauding him. When you hear Pam Bondi doing

the same thing, it's embarrassing. He's the president. He's not God. He's not God. I'm waiting

for somebody to literally say he's God. You can't just, he can't just do the job.

You got to literally kiss his ass at every turn. That's what I'm talking about. The foring.

Do the job. Just do your job.

866, 967, 687, 8696, 96 podest Justin and Colorado. Go ahead.

Hey, Steven. Thank you so much for taking my call. I got a slightly different take on this

voter ID registration thing. Okay. I don't think we really need it, but I'm absolutely 100%

here for it. And let me tell you why. When I was a kid, you know, I'm a millennial. When I was a

kid, we had, we had this rock to vote. And everybody's vote needs to count. Everybody needs to get

out and vote. And what I've learned over my 50 plus years of life is that there are a bunch of

ignorant mofos that go out and vote just to vote. They have zero clue what they're voting on.

All they do is they vote on either A on party lines or B what they're told they do not look

at the issues. They don't even care about the issues. They're literally just voting because

somebody told them to vote. Okay. So what does that have to do with the say that?

Well, they're, they're okay. What it would do is that you're talking disenfranchising voters.

I think it would disenfranchise the lazy people that that are not that that don't want to do their

homework that don't want to go out of their way. Okay. Okay. So talk, talk, talk, talk to,

talk about justice. You do realize what you're saying, right? You're saying that

even the American citizen, some of them don't deserve to vote. That's what you're saying.

I agree. Yeah. I think you can't, you can't, you can't be an American citizen who swears you

believe in the Constitution of the United States and feel that way, Justin. Let me tell you

why. Are you a conservative? I lean conservative. I'm very liberal. I'm getting to a point. I'm

getting to a point. So a friend of mine, a guy that I know pretty well is Mark Levin conservative

radio host. You've heard that name, right? I've heard of him. I don't really pay much attention.

I understand. I understand. Well, let me tell you you need to because he's smart as a whip,

whether you like him or not. I don't agree with him sometime, but I'll never tell you he doesn't

know what he's talking about because he does. Let me tell you what Mark Levin told me years

ago and I never got as long as I live. He said, I don't give a damn what you know as an American

citizen. The voter goes to the poll and votes based on the one issue they care about. Don't let

them tell you differently. If you pro-choice or pro-life, that's your issue. If you pro-immigration

against immigration, that's your issue. If you pro-economy or against the economy, that's your issue.

He said, you pro-military against military, that's your issue. He said, that's why people go to

the polls. They don't go to the polls knowledgeable about every issue. They have the issue they care

about most and that decides their vote. So Justin, and I have never met a pundit or a commentator

who didn't acknowledge that to be true. So if that's the reality, man, then that's the reality.

That's not a reason to say people shouldn't vote because it's not about what you know. It's about

what you kidnap. And a lot of people don't care about other issues. A lot of people don't mind

if the economy is struggling. They like, I've been broke anyway. What difference does it make to me?

While others care a great deal about it, everybody has their own issue. And as long as you have

that issue that you care about Justin, that's all that should matter. 100%. I agree with that,

but people don't leave those other boxes blank. Well, you're not voting on issues most of the time.

You're voting for people. And that's what you got to remember. I got to go though. I appreciate the

call. John and Connecticut. Go ahead. Yes. Hi, Steve. Hi there. I wanted to just say that on the

on the SAVE Act, the big thing is the registration. I have no problem just showing my drivers license

when I go to vote. That's not a problem. But when you have to go and either have a

birth certificate or a passport to re-register. And also the case, that's going to cause

because they had a guy on the radio yesterday from Arizona who was the head of the

of the Registrar voters in a small county. But he said, look, we still have 50,000 people

in our county that want to vote. He said, I've got two people in this office with me.

And if you try to tell me now that I had to re-register 50,000 people before the elections,

he said, couldn't be done. Okay. It would be nothing but chaos. I got you. I appreciate your

perspective. I understand your point. We can talk about that all day every day, but I just don't

have the time to because I got to get out of here in the next few seconds. I want to thank everybody

for listening to today's show. I really, really appreciate it. Sorry, I wasn't able to get to

even more callers. I got to change that because I like talking to the callers. And I need to talk

to y'all a lot more to be quite honest with you. That's what I enjoy most. Thanks again, the

representative Donovan McKinney. Thanks again to former national strategist and communications

director, Mr. Corbin Trent. Hope y'all enjoyed this week's additional strength shooting with

Steven A. Hollett, y'all next Wednesday night, 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Tom. Until then, peace of

love, everybody. God bless. Be safe.