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Stephen A. breaks down major headlines, from chaos at U.S. airports to the escalating war in Iran and rising oil prices impacting Americans nationwide. He’s joined by Michigan congressional candidate Donavan McKinney to discuss his campaign for the state’s 13th District, and progressive political strategist Corbin Trent, who shares insights from his work with Brand New Congress and Justice Democrats, as well as his time advising Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders.
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Straight Shooter with Stephen A.
What's up everybody?
Welcome to the latest edition of Straight Shooter
with yours truly Stephen A.
Coming at you as I love to do every Wednesday night
over the airways of severe 6M.
POTUS Radio, Channel 124.
Number to call up as always is 866-96POTUS.
That's 866-96POTUS.
866-967-6887.
I want to start off today's show.
Tonight's show.
This week's show.
Rather than calling the politicians on Capitol Hill
flaming idiots, or people who are unproductive,
or whatever it is, else that I may want to say,
rather than engaging in castigation
and going off on that level,
let me try to bring it home for you
in a different kind of way.
As to why if they're not smart,
they need to get smart,
because things can go awry,
quick, fast, and in a hurry.
I want to let y'all know that I've always thought
that January 6th was an insurrection.
I'm not a Republican, I'm not MAGA,
and I damn sure ain't a progressive leftist either.
But I know an insurrection when I see one.
But I know an insurrection when I see one.
And when you're storming on nation's Capitol,
you're bulldozing through barricades,
you're ignoring instructions from law enforcement official,
and you're causing chaos and bodily harm,
while invading the offices of elected officials,
defecating in their offices,
and doing the kind of things
that can only be described as lawlessness
and engaging in that kind of mayhem.
That's an insurrection.
The relevancy to that on this particular day,
ladies and gentlemen,
is that while me,
nor you, nor anyone,
in a democratic society
like the United States of America,
and ever, ever condoned such a thing,
condoning is one thing.
Understanding it is another.
Do you not see what the hell is going on right now
throughout the airports of America?
Do you not see what is transpiring
in our country right now?
Do you really, really think
that if you continue
to be on Capitol Hill,
getting nothing done,
being inept and impotent
at the expense of the American people
that it's not going to come back
to bite you in the ass in some way,
shape a form,
because I'm here to tell you what's going to.
Let me just read some of this stuff,
because I want to make sure you have it
in its proper perspective.
Right now,
you're talking about a deal
for DHS that hasn't come through.
They're still fighting over this stuff.
TSA is not funded.
Call out to have proliferated.
Walkouts have taken place.
Flipouts and the like.
Meanwhile, we're sending soldiers
to the Middle East.
For a war that most people
believe should ever be a war,
and we should be,
and I'll get to that in a second.
But it's relevant to bring this stuff up,
ladies and gentlemen,
particularly on this date,
because as we have a president
who tells us one minute,
we're not at war,
and then the next minute we find out
where it war,
and then he gets on the phone with Iran,
and he says,
you know what, they've agreed to a deal with no nukes,
only to hear them come out 24 hours later,
and say,
you know what,
because we damn sure didn't agree to that.
Then you take into account
what's transpiring at the airport,
these long ass lines,
people having four, five, six,
eight hour waits.
When you see all of this stuff going on,
how long do you think it's going to take
before chaos reigns?
You really, really think
the American people
are going to sit idly by,
and say nothing,
and do nothing.
You really, really think
the American people are going to sit idly by,
and just spout off at the mouth,
in front of a microphone,
or go on television with the cameras rolling,
and just engage in pundancy
with their commentary,
partisan pundancy,
I might add,
you think it's going to stop there?
You really think it's going to happen?
Because if you don't,
you're not paying attention
to the climate,
how things have regressed
on both sides of the aisle,
and our ultimately things
are going to come home to roost,
approval rating for the president,
in terms of his job performance right now,
have fallen to 36 percent,
horrible.
But it doesn't stop there.
As of today,
the Department of Homeland Security
funding laps has stretched today,
40.
Via TSA's own testimony
on Capitol Hill this week,
they said employees have already worked
87 days without pay
in fiscal year 2026.
87 days ladies and gentlemen
is nearly three months,
without pay.
How many of you can afford to pay your bills
if you go without a check for three months?
Now, I believe this woman,
her name is Hanouen McNeil.
For the TSA,
she spoke on Capitol Hill
to my producers,
could you play this now from her please?
Let's hear what she had to say.
This level of disruption
is unprecedented and unacceptable
and significantly undermines
the security of U.S. transportation systems.
99 percent of the TSA workforce
operates outside of the national
capital region,
working across the country,
living within your districts and communities.
95 percent or more than 61,000
of TSA's employees must continue working
without pay during a shutdown.
Congress and the traveling public
should be proud of the excellent job
the TSA workforce does to protect
our national security.
Paying these dedicated employees
for the work they are performing
should never be a point of debate.
And yet here we are,
on the 40th day of our third shutdown
this fiscal year.
Many in our workforce
have missed bill payments,
received eviction notices,
had their cars repossessed
and utilities shut off,
lost their child care,
defaulted on loans,
damaged their credit line,
and drained their retirement savings.
Some are sleeping in their cars,
selling their blood in plasma,
and taking on second jobs
to make ends meet,
all while being expected to perform
at the highest level when in uniform
to protect the traveling public.
A transportation security officer
at Reagan National Airport
recently said,
I just want Congress to pay me
for the job I am doing.
Acting TSA administrator,
testifying on Capitol Hill,
people are sleeping in their cars,
selling their blood to blood plasma
they are talking about.
Getting second jobs
and why, ladies and gentlemen,
87 days without paying fiscal year 2026.
By this Friday, March 27th,
folks will have missed pay
totaling $1 billion.
$1 billion.
While the president
and his family are pocketed
at the minimum of $1.5 billion
for themselves.
I ask again, how long you think
that's going to last?
I heard Marjorie Taylor Greene,
the now former Georgia Republican rep
who used to support Trump,
but ultimately turned against him,
going off about him and his lack of focus
on America being first
because of all of this stuff
going on in the Middle East.
You know why I don't want to particularly
hear from her either?
Because according to reports,
she came into office a couple of years ago,
worth a few, a couple of $100,000.
And when she departed this January,
she was worth 25 million.
They all get paid.
But not you.
Not a few TSA worker.
You know, it gets worse.
According to an associated press,
more than 3,200 TSA workers missed work
just this past Monday.
Nearly 11% of those scheduled.
And at least 458 had quit
since the shutdown began 40 days ago.
Some reports have that number
at 480.
As you heard,
Mr. McNeil articulate,
approximately 61,000 folks
are working without pay.
You really think a second insurrection
ain't possible?
You really think that folks
descending on Capitol Hill
ain't possible?
I got news for you.
They show up.
It ain't going to be because of some
no Kings protest.
And I'm not trying to minimize that.
But arguing about the president
and the power that he wields
is entirely different than storming
the nation's Capitol
and not getting paid
for the work that you do
while government officials
are getting paid.
They were actually compelling people
to keep working.
We don't give them a check.
How long do you think
the American people are going to take that?
Because we're only as strong
as our weakest link.
And if you ain't making anything,
people around you who are making
something are going to have a problem
because ultimately the people
who ain't making a damn thing
are going to be looking
for you to assist them.
Or,
desperate times call for desperate measures
and who knows what level of lawlessness
folks will engage in
because you're starving.
I don't break laws.
The only law I've ever broken
in my life is speeding.
And I'm here to tell you right now,
and I couldn't play some bills.
And I didn't have food on my table.
I might rob your ass.
Desperate times,
desperate measures.
This is not a joke.
And the president is sitting up here.
Literally,
holding folks hostage
because we have not just
the Democrats.
We had two Republican senators
in John Kennedy
out of Louisiana
and Ted Cruz out of Texas
rolled up to the president
there were Republicans.
And they said,
we think we have a deal
that we can make
to open the Department of Homeland Security again.
ICE is still funded through 2029.
We can come with some reconciliation bill
on the back end
to address the concerns about ICE
but for right now
just to get these people
getting a check again
and to get folks back to work
and to make sure
there's not a dissipation of bodies
at the airport
as TSA workers
to keep folks safe.
We think we got a bill
and what does the president say?
I ain't doing a damn thing
unless the Democrats
approved the Save Act
which don't have anything to do
a grown ass man supposedly
damn 80 years old
supposedly a billionaire
even though that's official now
but the money he gets
since he been back in office
got business deals
going on in the Middle East
got business deals from self right here
in the United States of America
no matter what happens
there's something involved in him
in a Trump name
benefiting and profiting
whether it's with Whit Cough
or his son-in-law
Kushner, his end voice
to the Middle East or anything else
whether it's the son
Eric and Don Jr
or it's Trump himself
get paid
but the American people
get screwed over
and he has
no problem
with it at all
no wonder he said
he didn't think he was going to heaven
I know he ultimately showed up
one day and said he was joking
I don't think he was
he knows he's destined for hell
with this condolences going on
not like this
you got to have some compassion
for the American people
the man sat up there
to Republican senators came to him
and he still wouldn't make a deal
and it's because of the
save act and because why
this man is addicted
safeguard American
voter eligibility act
proposed US law focused
on tightening voter registration rules
that's what he focused on
that's what he's determined to fix
that's what he's determined
rather to push through
because in his mind
that will validate his proclamations
that he was robbed of an election
he had a tension to the fact that
he's back in office now
legitimately
so 77 million plus people
voted for him
he still wants to look at the rear of
you mirror proven points
never mind that it potentially
disenfranchises 20 to 25 million people
when even a real ID
or a driver's license
or a social security card
ain't enough
and if you show up and present
Even then, they won a second form, a ID.
Let me stay for the record. You should have a damn ID.
I have no problem with the demand for an ID, devote.
You need an ID for everything else and to the progressive less shut the hell up.
You got a man in New York City that required two IDs for you to shovel snow.
You in an opposition to be bitching about how he wants IDs and the GOP wants IDs for votes.
Shut up. Nobody wants to hear that.
But in the same breath, you also don't want to hear folks acting like it's excessive
to ask for an ID. And in the same breath, you don't want to ignore when Democrats say it's too
excessive because the IDs that people have, you're suddenly saying ain't good enough.
When we got an official in Utah involving voting, talking to you about the polls and out two
million people in the state of Utah voted and they found one illegitimate vote out of two million.
And that person didn't even vote. You know it's not a problem. It's exaggerated. It's embellished.
Which makes this about him and not us.
And now we got the war and Iran going on.
The straight of a muse still isn't open. Iran is the man to control of that. Knowing that 20%
of the world's oil comes through there. Folks standing still stagnant, can't move because
their scared of drone is going to blow them out of the water. Today doing anything.
It's compromising us globally. All prices have risen. National average gas price is $3.98.
It was about 50% less last week in the state of California. It's approaching $6 a gallon.
That's not just because of this. That's damn sure because of Gavin Newsom and the local government
here in the state of California. No doubt. But nevertheless, it is what it is.
Cost of the war, $800 million to $2 billion for Operation Epic Fury per day.
And our deficit is over $39 trillion. Do you understand what you're doing, Washington?
I'm not advocating for it. I would never do such a thing. I am a law-abiding citizen.
Look up my record. I don't do that. I don't do that. I'm just telling you what could happen.
How long do you think the American people going to stand for this?
Lines backed up. I didn't even bring up airport security. We got a plane air
Canada flight landed in LaGuardia, crashes because something's on the runway. Two pilots killed.
40 people plus injured. You got TSA lines out of the wazoo hours upon hours of delays.
You don't think Iran, when it's proxies, it ain't just about Hezbollah and Hamas and the hoodies in Yemen.
You got kind of proxies all over the place. We don't know what people, you're just finished
talking about how people cross the border, how anywhere from 8 to 12 to 15 million people
cross the border illegally. You haven't even gotten a million out.
Yet every day you got one of these right wing networks talking to us about illegal migrants
and the danger they pose. And now we got this stuff going on with Iran. Who's to say they don't
have people here ready to try to commit another line 11. What the hell is up?
I don't know about job, but I'm scared. I want to get on a dance flight. I want to get on a bus.
I don't want to get on a train. Why?
This is real life stuff. And all y'all got to do is come together and look out for the American
people instead of yourself and reaching a chord. It's what you are elected to do and you can't do
that. See, it's moments like this where I believe
American people don't get paid. You don't get paid.
American people can't afford a vacation. You don't get a vacation.
American people can't afford to leave town. You don't leave town.
And a matter of fact, when they board flights and train rides and bus rides, public transportation,
you should have to be right there with them. Let's be in the muck and mire together.
Not y'all sitting on some perch looking down on the minions and the minions and the peon onto the
world. We'll figure it out. They'll be okay.
This is why people say y'all ain't shit.
This is the problem.
$800 million to $2 billion a day.
If you're spending two billion dollars a day, what's wrong with making a deal that ensures
that a billion dollars isn't lost over the last 40 plus days for TSA?
You know you can fund it. You know you can do what's necessary. You're just using the issue
to get other things that you want that have nothing to do with them as American citizens.
You're using them as ponds.
I'm not advocating nor would I ever in this direction.
Any form of violence whatsoever I'm diametrically opposed to.
But if folks roll up on Capitol Hill in unpleasant fashion in the near future,
don't say I didn't warn you and tell you why.
They're not just doing it or even thinking about doing it because of their frustration with
your actions and your ineffectiveness and inefficiency. They would be doing it because they don't
believe you give a shit about the American citizen.
And you wouldn't even be in a position to tell them they're lying with what you're
subjecting the American people to.
And no matter how bad the Democrats and the Republicans are,
nobody at this moment of time is worse than President Trump.
The deal maker in decline.
I thought you would add, dude, man. What up, Don?
What up, Mr. President? What's up? I thought you would add, dude.
You're creating Russia, resolving them one day, huh?
Israel, Iran, would be no war with me, huh?
We ain't trying to engage in warfare in the Middle East.
No new wars, huh?
The deficit got trimmed that down, huh?
You closed the borders.
That much you did.
Teraf Wars, where's the evidence?
Where's these trillions of dollars that were supposed to come pouring into the United States of
America? And if it was going to be the trillions of dollars pouring into the United States of
America, why would this deal be such a big deal if we got those kind of dollars coming in?
Because your ass was lying.
What is shame? What is shame?
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866-96 Potus, you are listening live to the Steve, to the straight shooter with yours truly.
Steve and I coming at you as I love to do every Wednesday night from six.
To 8 p.m., East and Standard Time. Up next,
he's a proud Detroit native, a member of Michigan's House of Representatives for the 11th
District. He's now running for a seat in the 13th Congressional District.
He's a Democrat that's got a lot to say.
And I'm going to give him a chance to say just that.
His name is Donovan McKinney.
He's up next with yours truly, straight shooter in the House.
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I already told you who my next guest is, but it's worth repeating because
by all the count of the peers, he's the real deal and I'm looking forward to talking to him,
proud Detroit native and a member of Michigan's House of Representatives for the 11th District.
He's now running for a seat in the 13th Congressional District.
Please welcome to straight shooter with yours truly,
the one and only Donovan McKinney.
Representative McKinney, how are you so welcome straight shooter, how you doing?
I was telling you earlier in the break.
I didn't know who you are that you know what I was.
So I'm just, I was blessed to be on the show, man.
I keep my eyes out for everything and everybody that's trying to do good things,
and obviously that's certainly you.
Talk to me about yourself and why the transition from the 11th District to the 13th District
within the same state and what you're hoping to accomplish with that move.
I grew up born and raised in the city Detroit.
Growing my mom, my grandmother, my younger brother.
We moved over 13 times across the city, spent the vast majority of my life on the northeast side.
And you know, we didn't grow up with a lot of, you know, resources.
You know, there was days when I didn't know where the next meal was going to come from.
We stayed in cars sometimes in shelter, sometimes in street.
But there was no shortage of love from my family.
And we did everything we possibly could to give us the best life.
And it just led me into helping people into the life of public service.
So that's what I'm doing now.
I'm going to stay legislature.
I've been there for two terms and now I'm excited to head to Congress
with the help of the people in the 13th District this August.
So yeah, excited to be on the show, brother.
Talk to me about this move.
And if you were to win this election, what kind of position it would put you in
that you're not in now?
Just for clarification with my listeners.
So for those who don't know, I'm part of the Quorum Cold State Legislature.
So, you know, we made policies for the entire state of Michigan.
And now I'm looking to go federal and essentially go ahead into the Congress
in the halls of DC working with, you know, the Congress as well as the Senate and the president.
But, you know, one of the things that I've been working on in the state legislature,
I'd like to continue and Congress is to issue around affordability.
Now, I represent Stephen A. the poorest house district in the state of Michigan currently.
The median income of my current state house district is around $14,000.
And I'm running to represent one of the poorest congressional districts in the nation.
It's actually the fifth poorest.
And so one of the things that we're working on is making sure that the quality of life issues
making sure that at the end of the day people can make sure they make the ends meet.
And that's really top of mind for a lot of the residents we want to represent.
You're running against an individual that's about 33 years older than you.
He's a two-term or the person's a two-term incumbent or whatever.
And you're challenging a sitting Democrat in the safely blue seat.
Why is this about results and not just ideological branding?
No, that's a good question, Stephen A. Like, at the end of the day, my opponent,
he's not been delivering for the district.
And what we've been doing in the state legislature,
on appropriations committee, I'm the only Detroiter in the house,
on appropriations last term in this term.
And I was able to shepherd hundreds of millions of dollars back to the district
in the surrounding area.
And I'm looking to do the same thing in Congress.
I know my opponent's claim to fame is just a few million dollars to the district.
And that's not cutting it.
People need somebody that's going to fight, that's going to meet the moment.
And that's going to fight for both values.
And that's what we're all about.
Michigan remains a crucial background state, as you well know.
In 20, in 2024 election, 21% of black men in Michigan voted for Donald Trump.
And that figure rose to about 58% among Hispanic voters of both genders.
Black voter turnout is essential for wins in Michigan.
And of course, the United States, by the way, just asked Jasmine Crocket about that,
particularly in red states.
Why does it appear they are disengaged or voting for Trump?
And what must Democrats do differently to retain and expand that support in your estimation?
I've been having a lot of barbershop conversations and just people in my neighborhood.
And we talk shop.
And at the end of the day, they feel like the Democratic Party has abandoned them.
And I'm a big believer that it's time for a new generation of leadership.
And people in there are just going to have that fight.
Right now, people are ticked off at party leadership.
No matter what state, people, if you look at the polling,
the Dems aren't necessarily doing better than Trump right now.
And it's because we have left the base.
And what it means to be a real Democrat.
We don't have an identity crisis.
We're in a dinner crisis.
We don't even know what a Democrat stands for nowadays.
Stephen A, you talked about it a lot on your show.
And right now, for me, what a Democrat means to be is the party of the people.
And so we have to put aside all of the, not only all of the parties in rhetoric and politics,
but you can't serve two masters.
And right now, our districts and the people that live in them,
they feel like the Democratic Party is very similar to the Republican Party.
When it comes to the corporate interests.
And right now, our campaign just to let you know,
we're not taking any corporate pack money.
We don't have any corporate influence,
because we don't want our hands tied behind our backs.
When we are here fighting for the people in the halls of Lansing,
as well as soon to be in the halls of D.C.
So do you consider yourself a traditional Democrat or a progressive?
Like, meaning when we look at the extreme left,
and some of the progressives is won't culture,
cancel culture, some of the things I've lamented to be quite honest,
because I'm going to keep it a hundred with you.
You know, I don't, I love, you know, I respect the Democratic Party.
I'm a, I consider myself an independent,
then leaves Democrat, but not progressive Democrat.
I can tell you that much.
Which one do you consider yourself to be?
Steve and I, and I've heard you talk about it on your show.
I'm more, I lean towards, you know, you've got the center,
left Democrats, and then you got, you know,
the left Democrats on the progressive side.
My politics is more on the progressive side of things.
But I'm also pragmatic, because I'm willing to make sure that at the end of the day,
this is about bringing the resources back home to the district and the people we represent.
And so if it's not about the redistribution of resources,
that's how to find politics, then I need you to get out my way,
get out my face, because my people, the people that I represent need us to do everything possible
to make sure we bring back the bacon, bring home money and resources.
So they quality life can improve.
Representative McKinney, help me understand this, okay?
77 million people voted for Donald Trump.
Yeah.
They say that right now, the independent base in this country,
somebody that refuses to be associated with either party,
definitively, from an ideological perspective.
I'm one of those people.
We make up about 45%.
Being a progressive leftist, how is that possibly going to benefit?
This could tell me the benefits of being a progressive leftist
in a United States of America.
I want to hear you help me understand my brother.
I'm all ears.
I don't know how this question, because I have this dialogue in my own district,
and with so many other people across our state,
and it's going to be now with your listeners.
So at the end of the day, what's the beauty of progressivism?
The beauty of it is common sense policy, in my view.
Now, I hear you talk about it on your show.
Like, why can't people agree to make sure that we get something done out of this government?
And the reason why is because we are so prone to do the bidding of the corporate interest
and the special interest.
At the end of the day, people want us to do was right on their behalf.
And so, progressivism, to me, is common sense policy.
That is making sure that every family and every household
has access to clean and affordable water.
Making sure that people no matter what creed color you are,
no matter your economic status, that you have access to affordable health care.
At the end of the day, these are the common sense policies
that I believe progressivism and push that I think the American people want and need.
Well, I think the progressive policies that the progressive left is pushing.
I can respect where they're coming from from an emotional perspective,
but from a pragmatic perspective as a state representative who's had to deal with corporations,
you know how it goes better than me, better than most people.
And you know when you're needing money and you're needing financial assistance from corporate,
it's kind of hard to get it when you're, you're, you're, you're generating them because of what
they ain't doing. How you going to figure out how you going to get their help when you,
you know how it is representing the McKenny? Look, and I say that and I'll use the analogy.
Damage, y'all ain't worth the damn, you ain't been worth the damn.
You don't give a damn about anybody else. By the way, can I get some money?
How'd that go work? Help, help a brother understand. How'd it go work, Rep?
I need to know. I just need to know.
I got a story for you, Steven A.
And I just told it on the House floor. And it's about my grandfather because the speaker of
the House of Michigan introduced a resolution, you know commemorating 250 years of American history.
Right, we're celebrating America 250 this year. And you know, they were talking about how great
America is, but I had to share the story of my grandfather who literally fled him and my
great-grandparents flee the Jim Crow South to Detroit Michigan for a better life. He ended up
one of the most interesting things about my grandfather is that he worked for four more
of the company 42 years, never missed a day of work. And like this brother loved our country,
he loved Ford. And the reason why he never missed a day of work because he told me growing up,
Ford had his back. The corporation had his back. And so right now, I got people who are literally
slave and working two, three jobs trying to make ends meet. And the corporations for some reason
aren't necessarily having the backs of the working class people. And so they have to be held accountable.
They keep coming to us, and I want to corporations at the state level. I guarantee it happens at
the federal level. They come to us for corporate handouts. They come to us for all these subsidies
of our taxpayer money. But when it comes, when push comes to some, there's no long-term vision
how to make sure these jobs are kept. And people are honestly earning the most amount of money they
can to not only take care of their families, but look forward to a return. And so like we have to
get back to the basis in the fundamentals and we have to hold these corporations accountable.
That's what progressives are saying. That's what people like me are saying. And to be honest with
you, they kind of agree. I've talked to corporations. I have plenty of conversations. And they're like,
you know what, you're right. We're all about the bottom line nowadays instead of taking care
of the human capital. Talking to Representative Donovan McKinney right here with Steven A.
Straight shooting with Steven A. Before I let you get on out of here, just reminding everybody
you're the two-term incumbent you're going up against primarily. I mean, you're one,
there's five Democrats on the primary ballot. You're the main progressive challenger. You're going
to plan on going up against challenging two-term incumbent Representative Shreethander and Michigan's
13th Congressional District. He's a multi-millionaire. You've accused him of being more alarm,
a corporate interest than the working class district he represents. His campaign literally called
your campaign literally called his Detroit own Elon Musk. That's what you called them. It's just
a good one. By the way, it was a good one. I got to give you that. That was a good one right there.
I got to give that to you. But my last question to you would be this. If Democrats want to
win back swing voters in 2026, what should they stop talking about? And what should they
start talking about as of tomorrow morning? So I was saying we should stop talking about,
man, that's a, that's a storm question. Well, I would say to Steven A. Because I'm thinking
about it right now. They should stop talking about, at the end of the day, taking care of corporations
and doing what's best for them. At the end of the day, this is about getting our money out of
politics and making sure that at the end of the day, the people's voices are heard. We got to
get back to the fundamentals and basics. I cannot stress that enough, Steven A. And I appreciate
you allowing me to have this platform on your show. But like we have to, at the end of the day,
talk about working class values and the reason why people are struggling to make ends meet,
this is about understanding they have to have more of our earning potential and then building up
pathways and what our educational system, but also lowering the cost of everyday goods. And so gas
prices right now, I heard you're talking about that because of the idiotic things this administration
is doing, putting us in forever wars, like starting up a month and creating all this havoc and
confusion, aren't people that are realizing and they come to us crying for help saying, what are
you guys doing? We need you guys to lower these prices instead. You're figuring out ways to make
more money for the few. And so people are tired of the rhetoric, they're tired of the politics,
they need action, they want us to do something. And that's what our candidacy is about. That's what
we're about. And I'm just excited, man, because we're going to win this seat. It's a big, big,
it's too much to get into and we have to do this on another day, but you ain't lower in course
as long as the dollar continues to diminish in value. That's the bottom line. There's no way around
it. And so that's a different subject for another day. Representative McKinney out of the 11th
district running for the 13th congressional district in the state of Michigan. Really appreciate
your time. Thank you for coming on down to McKinney. I really, really appreciate it. Well, man,
all the best to you and we'll be here for you. We'll be watching.
Just to be reminded, God bless you, brother. Appreciate the time. God bless. All the best.
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Hey, Steven Cheryl from Texas. The Save Act is a solution in search of a problem.
The, it is the unfunded mandate just like to say the real idea act was which took 20 years
to implement instead of three because it's a burden on states and on citizens. It shifts the burden
of a state determining who is a US citizen onto every citizen to prove. The Save Act does not
determine or does not specify what documents are needed to prove a name change, say a marriage
license. Instead, it shifts that to the states. The states have to adopt rules after the Save Act
passes. This will definitely disenfranchise a lot of voters from all the all political spectrums.
Totally true. I don't have any disagreement with what she's saying, but I do believe that some
detractors for the Save Act have stupidly pointed to how it ensures only US citizens would vote,
which is supposed to be the law of the land anyway. So you're arguing against the law of the land.
But the bottom line is if you are a United States citizen and you have a driver's license and you
have a Social Security card, but you don't have a passport that shouldn't prohibit you from voting.
You know, I mean they need to clean up the system and not make it harder for the American citizen
to get an ID. And so that's what it is. I'm certainly not going to act like somebody who's married
and changed their name can't go to the Department of Motor Vehicles and other places and get an ID.
But the flip side to it is that it is arduous. It does take time and you have to do it. So you have
to do it. It's not impossible, but let's not act like everybody is going to be keen on doing it.
And because of that, it's not just illegal migrants who won't get to vote, which is appropriate and
the right thing to happen. But you're going to have American citizens that don't want to deal with
the headache and the arduous task of standing the line and taking care of all of this other stuff.
And as a result, they'll say, hey, we just won't vote. And chances are folks are betting on the fact
that most of those people are going to be Democrats instead of Republicans. Therefore, it will
assist in the GOP winning elections. So it's just a mess right now. It's clearly an agenda-driven
formula instigated by the President of the United States, who's hanging his hat on all of that,
is just the latest way to prove that the election in 2020 was rigged and he should have never left
office to begin with because he's on a vengeance tour. And that's really what this is going on.
And so it's not far-fetched to think that that's what this is all about, especially where every time
you turn around, he's trying to have his name on something. It's all a mess. It really, really is.
But let's get to the phones. At 8669-9667-887-86696-POTUS, let's go to Makali in New Jersey.
Yolava, Steven A. What's up?
Hey, Steven A. I'm Big Fang. I just want to talk to you about these gas prices right now.
The gas prices right now are absolutely just ridiculous. We're going on with the war in Iran.
I'm a college student at Rutgers University. And just, you know, I've been driving my car around,
you know, campus and whatnot. And these gas prices are just unbelievable in a war that I believe
that we- You do understand you're in Jersey, right?
I do. I do understand that. I'm in L.A. right now. Gas prices are nearly $6 a gallon.
Yes, yes. We have right right now about four and a half. It's real bad. It's still real bad
around here. Yeah. And I just think that the president right now with Donald Trump's doing,
I think it's just a mess. It's been a mess for the past year and a half now. And I just,
I just don't see a future with, you know, what he's doing right now is anything positive.
I will say this to you. I will say this to you. It's evil and what have you, but I'm not going
to lie. Well, what he did with Maduro and Venezuela. Well, what's happening in Cuba and how it's
become a humanitarian crisis there. And who knows what we're going to do with Cuba? If somehow,
some way, you know, we're able to infiltrate the proceedings and the straight-of-humus and
other matters are resolved. And, you know, we, we, we have a saying, we have a stake in oil emanating
out of that region that is going to put us in a considerably better position than we ever were
before. And I won't deny the possibility of that happening could be exponentially beneficial
to the United States of America. But it seems far-fetched that that would happen.
One must wonder how the Middle East region would feel about that. But I will share something to
you that happened to me last night. And I think everybody needs to notice, McCauley.
I'm driving home and I have a driver that's, I land in LA and I have a driver that's taking me home.
And he was Iranian. And he was talking about how 50,000 people were killed in two days
by the Ayatollah Khmerni and, and you know, his henchmen because they were protesting what was
going on. They were talking about the cost of living, how significantly their dollar has been
devalued, how only 10% of the population is remotely affluent, 90% of the population is
poor and impoverished and really, really struggling and how happy and ecstatic that they are that both
Israel and the United States of America are doing what they're doing. And so if you're the
President of the United States along with Israel and that is truly how the people of Iran feel
in the end, the means may be justified. It's just that we don't see it at this particular moment in
time here in the United States of America. And it's something that we just have to pay attention to.
Plain is simple. Appreciate the call. Thank you so much. Let's go to Nick in Washington.
You live with Stephen A. What's up Nick? Talk to me. What's up Stephen A? Go ahead, man.
Yeah, I just want to say to you that I can listen to you for a few weeks and wow, damn,
you're correct on a lot of stuff. And I just love it that you're direct and you're not afraid to say
what needs to be said, you know. Thank you. Just love it. You know, I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan.
You know, I got a beating star and not a heart. Yeah, you know, it's hard to hear you say
something about the Cowboys, but a lot of stuff. It's true. You know, and just I love it that
you're a straight shooter. You know, and what you're talking about here is is correct. You know,
a lot of it has to stop. I mean, with a special interest money that's going in.
And let me turn limits on the Congress, you know, maybe an age limit, a 85 or something.
Citizens United changed all of that. Not only can people donate unlimited dollars to campaigns
and stuff like that, you can also do it via dark money as well. You don't always have to reveal
who the donors are and stuff like that. I mean, Citizens United, that ruling back in 2010,
it changed the course of politics practically forever. So, you know, in terms of corporate
influence and, you know, these, these packs, political, political action committees and all of this
other stuff, I hope you're not hoping for better times in regards to that because it ain't coming.
It ain't coming. No, it's money. And again, the money is the root of all evil. And it's just
rupting politics. And it's not just happening on Trump. It's been happening, you know.
And it's just, you know, right now, it's just blatant. But he's a proud figurehead of it.
And that's what makes him more guilty than most because this man has come into office and at
a time where they're spending a billion dollars, you know, and folks not receiving a check
and stuff in this course and TSA work as a billion dollars. And all of this other stuff is going on.
And Christie Knones was a Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. She's spending
about 300 million dollars on planes. And Lord knows what the hell heg set this doing. And you see
what Trump and his minions are doing. It's ridiculous. It really, really is. And I'm not going to
sit up there and engage in histrionics and disrespecting folks and all of this other stuff. But we
deserve better from our leaders. And why you taking care of yourself at least make sure to take
care of us. And that is not what's happening. 866-067-687-866-969-6 podis. Our number two
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Hey, in our reporting, let's speak lots of young voters. Many of them voted for President Trump
for the first time in 2024. You're hoping to have no more wars and have lower prices. Now with the
war taking place and with gas prices going up, here's what President Trump's message would be to
those voters who kind of swung into his coalition in 2024. But maybe don't feel the administration
is going as they expect it. President Trump is doing this for you. He's doing this for young people
so that we are no longer threatened by a rogue terrorist regime in the Middle East. That seeks
to kill the brave men and women who serve in our country in the Middle East. Many of them,
young people themselves, young men and women who serve this country honorably in uniform and
have been threatened, killed and named by the rogue Iranian terrorist regime for 47 years.
President Trump finally had the courage to step up and do what's right by our national security,
our homeland security. As for the temporary short-term fluctuation in gas prices, the President
has said once these combat operations are over, this administration is going to continue to unleash
American energy dominance. We're continuing to do that every day and we're going to see
pike prices at the pump go back down just as we have over the past year because of this President.
I love it. He definitely does a hell of a job supporting the President no matter what the
hell he does. You know, doubt about that. Welcome back straight to you to the theaters truly,
Stephen A. Coming at you as I love to do every Wednesday night from 6 to 8 pm over the airways
of Sirius XM, Portus Radio, Channel 124. Before I get back to the phone calls,
I want to bring my next guest on the line. He is a co-founder of the brand new Congress and
co-director of Justice Democrats, two grassroots organizations working to elect progressive
Democrats to Congress. He also served as a communications director for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
and as a national strategist for Bernie Sanders, President you campaign. Please welcome to
Straight Shooter with Stephen A. Mr. Corbin Trent. Thank you for coming on to the show. Let's get
right to it. Why should anybody want to vote for a progressive Democrat in the year 2026?
I mean, I think you want to vote for candidates with a big bold vision with the vision for
different America. Well, I was just thinking about before I came on here because I know you got
like this sports background, right? And I was just thinking how little America's plan as a team
right now, you know, whether it's Democrats with each other, Republicans with each other,
you know, community states, whatever it is. There is no goal. You know, it's like we've just got all
these various states, various companies, various interests just playing for themselves. And there's
no unifying mission. And I think that whether it's progressives, whether it's people, you know,
I think generally speaking, the Democratic Party, when you've seen America do big stuff,
whether it's the Interstate Highway system or the TVA system or the aqueduct system in California,
whether it's, you know, the subway systems, it's been Democrats that did it. Got us to the moon,
the thing, you know, whether it's Medicare, whether it's Social Security, Democrats, Democrats,
Democrats. So my guess is is that the Democratic Party has that still left in their DNA. At
least some of the people do, you know, that's why I would vote for somebody with it. But it's not,
you know, like, you think my, you know, they ain't Gavin Newsom, they ain't, uh, you know,
old Joe Biden, those aren't the people, you know, what you got to find is people with energy,
with vision, ready to do the work, turn the country around. And I know a lot of people,
I'm from Appalachia, and they thought that was going to be Donald Trump. But they got who do?
They got hoodwink, you know, that I wasn't his goal from beginning, his goal from beginning
was get rich and do his own thing. You never had any interest in politics, according to my research,
but now you call yourself a progressive hillbilly who likes to go out Fox News. The word progressive
means many things to many people. And I'm asking you to explain what that term means to you.
I don't know that I don't particularly, you know, like I got behind me, this big TBA symbol,
I got this damn over here that's actually less than a mile from my house. And I suppose
progressive means progress means building means providing it means working towards a more
fairer, better future for more people. That's what progressive means. And I think there's a lot
of ways to do that in healthcare. I think there's a lot of ways to do that in our industry. There's
a lot of ways to do that in our infrastructure. But it generally takes people coming together to
work toward the common mission. And for whatever reason, it seems like we only do that when we're
either at war, we're attacked, or when something terrible happens, like a great depression or,
you know, the Soviet Union's breathing down our neck. So we're going to, you know, try to do a cold
war and get the moon and a lunar race and things like that space race. So for me, progress,
progressive is trying to replicate that same energy, that same passion for building for progress,
for transformation without disaster, right? Just doing it because we know we can do it,
because life's going to be better for me, for you, for my kids, and for everybody else's kids.
COVID, what do you say to folks on different sides of the aisle, on a different side of the aisle,
that listens to that and they say, okay, you know what, what he's proposing in all likelihood
involves the heavy hand of the government looking out for the desolate, the disenfranchising everybody
in between, right? And as a result, it's more of a replication of socialism, communism,
fascism, these are the kind of things that folks, they throw out these kind of words.
What do you believe? How do you think progressivism is affected by those accusations?
I think people are scared to death of their own beliefs. You know, that's one thing that separates
me from a lot of progressives, I guess, is that I have the courage in my convictions.
Okay. You know, like I look back at our history as a country. I look back at things that we've
done well, things that we've done poorly. What I see is that, like for example, there's this
thing called the Rule Electrification Act, and that was something we did from the 30s all the way
through into the 50s. And we electrified not just the South, but all of rule America. And we did
it very quickly, you know, over a period of like 20 years. Now, it wasn't just the federal government
doing it. The federal government provided the infrastructure. They provided the training,
the engineering, they provided the dollars. They provided a lot of the know-how. But local
communities did it. Local communities administrative it. Local communities built it.
I think in the, you know, in a really functional system, like for example, the health care system,
right now we're paying almost six trillion dollars a year for health care. And it's a
hodgepodge of weird insurances, hodgepodge of weird non-profits and for-profits and public
this and public that, you know, in private that. Now, if you go back to 1980s,
the hospital, for example, that I was born in in 1980 was owned by the county and by the city.
I was born in Morristown, Hamlin Hospital in Rule East Tennessee. And the city in the county
owned that hospital. And that's the case all across this country. Used to be about 45% of our
health care, the actual doctors, the infrastructure, the clinics, the hospitals were owned by communities.
They were owned by the state. They were owned by cities and counties. And what that gave us was
a competitive advantage with the other people that were trying to extract profit from the health
care system. They tell us, oh, this triple bypass is going to cost $100,000. We'd say, no,
it's not. How do we know? Because we did, too, yesterday. And we know what they cost, right?
So the thing is, when we had public competition, whether it was in railway, whether it was in roadway,
whether it was in health care, one of the way advantages that gives you, like I'm in the construction
trader was until Trump got reelected. And if I'm going to do quotes, hey, I got to know what
my competition's quoting, but B, I got to know the cost. If I'm going to buy something from a
supplier, the better I understand the cost of that product, the more I'm going to be able to understand
how much negotiation room I have. And right now, we've got a government that's filled with people
that don't know the cost of anything because we don't do anything anymore. They have pushed all the
doing, all the building, all the know how for decades out of the government and into the private
sector, or even worse, really, is the nonprofit sector. Because I'll tell you, the nonprofit
sector is filled with people that are getting a lot of money to do very, very little. And I just
think we're ill prepared. We're ill prepared for the future. We're ill prepared for where
how advanced China's become. We're ill prepared for where AI is taking us. We don't have the social
and government infrastructure to do the rapid kind of changes that we need. People talk about
like a lot of Trump supporters I talk to when I talk about revamping the industrial based
America, because that's something I'm really into is rebuilding factories, right? And getting back
to having the ability to create the things that we and the world need, because we don't produce
most of that stuff anymore. And they say, well, Trump's trying to do that with a tariffs and this
and that. And then I try to remind them, probably as it so long ago, of when we were really ramping
up our manufacturing. And that was in the 40s and that was for World War II. And we were going from
field to factory in 18 months. We had a Ford plant that went from producing one plane a year
to one plane a minute in like two and a half years. So like there is what we call like Trump called
it during the pandemic operation warp speed, right? If you think that you're facing an existential
crisis, because you no longer make the things that you need, you no longer have the value that you
had as a nation to the rest of the world, except like maybe not bombing people. That's our big value
to the world now. Hey, if you're if you're nice to us, we won't bomb you or we won't put a tariff on
you. You know, we used to be exporting cool music, cool clothes, cool cars. We made cool stuff.
We were like, cool kids, but Corbin is my deal. But I got that. I got that. But, but you're talking
about the 40s, 50s. Let's go. You got Kennedy's in the Kennedy and Linda B Johnson in the 60s.
You got Jimmy Carter in the 70s. You know, you got you had Reagan and HW through the 90s,
decades. I get that Paul Clinton in the 90s. Okay. Barack Obama in 2008 to 2016. There
have been Democrats in the mix throughout all of this as well. What level of culpability do you
attach to them as it pertains to what is transpired in this country in terms of what you might have
to complain about? We know how you feel about the other side of what they've done. What about the
Democrats? I think they're absolutely. I mean, I think there's a couple of party. If you want to
call it that, there are certain parts of the economics, for example, that are like the mainstream
Republicans for decades and mainstream Democrats didn't have a lot of room between them, right?
It was we want to ship all the jobs offshore. We want to let the, you know, wherever it's cheaper to
get it made, that's where it should go, right? It's just the way the market works. That was definitely
Democrats. You know, I mean, I can remember I was in middle school when Ross Perot was talking
about the giant sucking sound of jobs going to Mexico, right? And people around me were really
inspired by Ross Perot's vision of, you know, what was going to happen if we did that and his desire
to stop it. So when I tell people how much I love the current iteration of Democratic Party,
they sort of don't get why I'm still a Democrat, right? And I tell him like, you know, the thing is,
like somebody drives by my house and throws a Molotov cocktail in. I'm going to be really mad at
those people. Super mad. I wanted to go to jail. But if the fire department shows up later and stands
there while it's burning and won't put it out, I'm actually going to be even more enraged at the
fire department. And for me, the Democratic Party was the fire department. So they saw, you know,
all this coming, maybe they didn't want to see it coming, but it was, you know, it didn't take
a genius to see what happens if you give away like, you know, the funny thing you were mentioned
earlier, communism, right? Yeah. Now one of the things that we did not want to do about communism
is one of the, what is it called the means of production, right? Yes. The communist wanted to
seize the means of production for the people. Now the crazy thing about the way we've done it over
the last 40 years, 50 years, we didn't, nobody sees it. We actually gave away the means of production.
China, did you pan the India, to Brazil? Like if the means of production were so powerful that if
the people had it, that they would be unstoppable. And therefore, you know, communism would override
everything. And they'd be, you know, there's all powerful entity. Why on the heck didn't we keep it?
Why didn't we keep the means of production? Why didn't we keep the ability to make our own
batteries, our own energy grid, our own transformers, our own water systems? But you do, but Corbin,
you do understand what you're saying, though, in a roundabout way, what you're saying is,
this is how I'm going to interpret it. You could correct it. But the way I'm hearing you,
you're holding the Democrats just as if not more culpable than the GOP. But the progressive
Democrats are a different breed. And because of them, they're more aligned with your level of thinking.
And that's what, and that's, and that's where you are. I'm thinking along the lines of,
how is that going to help the Democratic Party? Because you're basically saying, listen,
is it, you're almost treating a progressive movement like it's a third party? As opposed to a part of
the Democratic Party. There's no way to do that. Yeah, but I'm saying it can't be. So how is that
going to work for you? Because that's a house divided, and you're certainly not going to do much
to galvanize it. If you're thinking the way you're thinking, and I'm not saying you're wrong,
I'm just saying that's not going to serve the purpose of galvanizing one party to make sure
that it's more successful than the other. So we're running our government.
So Steve, what happened in 1930s after the Depression? So you had a trifecta of Republicans.
They had the House, the Senate, and they had the presidency. And then in three cycles,
six years, it went to a Democratic supermajority. And FDR was going around running against Democrats,
primarying those Democrats, running against them, running them out of the party,
because they weren't on board with a new deal. They weren't on board with where things were going,
and he was pushing them out. That is what has to happen. So a lot of times, because I used to do
some consultant in these candidates who asked me, how can I stand out, or how can I be authentic,
or whatever the heck they used people ask you. And I say, well, talk about the party having to be
different. Like if America needs to be different, and the Democrats are going to lead us down that
road of being different, being better, then they have to be different, and they have to be better.
I mean, like I was watching Obama the other day, talk about running the circles about how great
Obamacare was, right? Yeah. He was doing these videos. It was like the anniversary.
I saw him. I saw him. And now what's interesting is, for the last year, I've been listening to
the Democratic Party tell me that if the enhanced subsidies expire on health care, on Obamacare,
then it's going to be a disaster. Then it's going to be cataclysmic, horrible economic conditions
for Americans. And I'm not disagreeing with that. But what they're talking about happening is us
returning to Obamacare. What they're talking about is us going back to the thing that Obama was
cheering about four or five days ago, right? So without that sort of like introspection of like,
well, actually maybe Obama, the Obama Trump voters, maybe there's a reason they went from Obama
to Trump. I was like the first candidate I ever got pumped about with Obama. I drove for like two
hours to watch him speak in 2007, right? I was like in. I started a, I did a watch party. I never
done any of that. It wasn't my, wasn't my thing, right? I was watching the elections. I was so
excited about candidate Barack Obama. And then I was so disappointed in President Barack Obama.
Everything was, yes, we can until they were in. And it was like, ah, we thought we could,
but we can't, you know? And like, I just don't understand why people don't believe in this country
more than they do and the people of this country more than they do. And I think when the democratic
party wakes up and more and more of them are, more and more of these candidates are out there
waking up in their understanding. Like the price of living is beyond our capacity to afford it.
It's becoming unsustainable. Some things got to give, right? And, you know, Donald Trump,
God bless him. He's doing this. He's going around starting wars, kidnapping people,
trying to compete with China through that. It's, it's not going to work. China is outperforming us
in robotics. They're outperforming us in engineering. Used to be China just copied what we did.
Sam Walton famously said in his book, Made in America. For a long time, all Walmart had to do
is copy Kmart. We didn't have to innovate anything till we got out in front, right? That's
all we had to do. Well, now China's starting to inch out in front in certain places and they're
going to be innovating and they're going to be leading. And I'm not saying, you know, like,
there's this idea that we're going to eventually end up in a war with China. How about we just try
to out-develop our nations? How about we compete with which people have a better quality of life?
Which people have more access to healthcare? Which people have more access to housing? Which people
have more access to time off and travel, you know? That seems like a better competition made
than who can shoot more missiles at each other. Understood, understood. You live in a deep red rural
community. Who do you hear from your neighbors heading into the midterms? What do you hear from them?
I mean, you know, it's interesting because Tennessee was like the birthplace of the Ku Klux Klan,
right? But it was also the birthplace of a thing called the Highlander Center, which trained
these people during the civil rights movement, right? So you've got this sort of bifurcated society
in Tennessee. You got both extremes and then you got a lot of people that just don't care
one way or another. So it depends on who you're talking to, obviously. But, you know, what I'm
hearing, Democrats are just scared of their own shadow around here. Like, I talk to people that
don't want to put yard signs in their yard because they're afraid of their neighbors being mean to
them. And then you got the MAGA crowd and they'll walk around the red hat on their gun on their
hip, you know? So it's a very different, but what I'm hearing is is that life's not affordable.
People are struggling to get ahead. I mean, I, you know, young people, my daughter's 18. She lives,
you know, she's got a shoe shed, lives in the backyard. And she, you know, she makes pretty decent
money. She's making like 17 an hour on her part-time job while she's in college. But she can get a
place. She can't, you know, apartment around here studio is 1650 in a rural community. 1650.
Makes sense. Makes sense. You know, make life better for me. Did you, did you, did you fold for
Trump? No, no, I didn't. You never voted for Trump, right? I wanted to make sure about that.
You know, I wanted to make sure, because I know I read somewhere. I was like, what? That doesn't
make sense. He doesn't sound like somebody to vote for Trump. So, all right. That's, that's, that's,
I want to make sure I got that question out of the way. Let me move on from there. You argue
that Democrats won't win by just moderating. Then what is the three-word message that actually
gets working class voters back in your estimation? I mean, what are the three words?
Two words, three words, five words. Work together for America. I mean, I think that there is so
much cynicism and disbelief that we can do things that our government can do things. There's
a disbelief that we have any real control over where we hit our direction, right? And again,
like this, I was thinking, I don't know why I was saying, I guess, because I was going to be
talking to you, I was thinking about things through sports. But like, imagine a team that didn't have
a plan, right? They didn't have a plan for what they're going to do with their season. They didn't
know, which, you know, they didn't know that their guard's good, where their talent is. They
didn't know what they're, they didn't have any plan whatsoever. And they're just going to go
in a season to see what happens, right? I think that's doomed for failure. And I feel like, for a
long time, we had such an amazing team. America was so far ahead of everybody else that we could win
with basically doing nothing, right? But we've sort of run out of that steam. We're not that far
ahead anymore. We've got bubbles everywhere in our economy. So I think the message is going to land
is actually, we are going to have to build millions and millions of units of housing. Actually,
we are going to have to rebuild our manufacturing capacity. How are you going to pay for?
You pay, I would use American dollars, but we can, you know, we can do whatever you want to do.
I guess crypto. No, you pay for it. Like, we've got a $30 trillion dollar economy. You pay for it
by building stuff. We got $39 trillion in debt. We got $30.9 trillion in debt, Corbin.
What did we get with that debt? That's the other thing you got to look at. China's got debt too.
But what they built with that debt is a massive industrial base. Robots doing back flips.
You know, the ability to make AI that's competitive with ours much cheaper. They built the ability to
have BYD, these automotive companies that are building the next generation of EVs. You know, so
the question, Apple's in debt, right? A lot of everybody goes in debt. People at own a house
are in debt. Death's part of it. But the question is not, are you in debt? The question is, what are
you doing with your debt? And what we're doing with our debt is getting rich people richer and poor
people poorer. And that's it. And instead of building something that's useful for everybody else.
So there's going to be, you know, like, all right. Again, healthcare, I think is a great place
to look. Six trillion dollars a year, we spend six trillion. Okay. Okay. And let me, let me go
ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. Finch has a finch chance to go ahead. I just want to say, and what
we're getting is less and less healthcare 80% of American counties are in healthcare deserts.
If more money would fix healthcare, I don't disagree with you. I just think the Democrats have
been a part of the problem. And I don't know how much of a part of the solution they're going to be
able to be, they're going to be able to be a part of what, what, what, what the kind of things
that you're proposing because it sounds great. But getting people on board to follow that kind of
vision, I find very hard to believe. Let me ask you this question. Communication is
directed for AOC, obviously a national strategy is for Bernie Sanders. If one of them were in office
instead of a Trump or even an Obama or Biden, what would this country look like?
I mean, I think if one of them was in up, like if I got to put one in a Petri dish or whatever,
mix it up, then I would have, I would have somebody that's like 15% Trump, you know, 40% AOC,
and then we'll do the rest. 40. 40. I mean, she's got such a vision of justice, of morality,
of courage. She's sharp as a whip. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. She didn't see, you know, you do know
that she didn't seem that sharp in Germany. I'm not going to hold that against her forever. I'm
not going to hold that against that all. But when she rolled up, it's a time fly, of course,
you can't fly, Corbin, you can't fly across the ocean for an event and then be unprepared for
the damn event that you flew across the ocean to attend. You know, you can't do that, right?
Particularly on a world stage when you're trying to show the world that you wanted to leave,
is you know that, right? Yeah, when the best look in the world. But, you know, I think the China
question is such a, especially China, Taiwan, you know, it's just something that every American
leader's been fumbling with and they usually just say nonsense is usually what they do. They just
bowed a bunch of nonsense that says we're going to kind of protect Taiwan, but we're not going to
say that, you know, we're going to do the, you know, the one country, you know, so I mean,
they sort of like abdicate to the, to the whole diplomatic solution that they've got worked out
right now. Okay. And anyway, but you know, the thing that is useful about Trump is that he has a
disdain for the process. He has a disdain for a lot of the institutions as opposed to a reverence
for the institutions. And I think that for us to truly have the reforms that we need and have
change, then you can't treat every one of these institutions as sacred cows, you know, like what's
ironic to me is that people say there's a revolving door between Wall Street and SEC. There's a revolving
door between Farma and the FDA, right? They know that like, for example, I was thinking you, you know,
we were listening to that woman, the spokesperson for the White House talk about how many people
Iranians had killed, right? Now, just thinking the Sackler family, which was the company that,
the owners of the company that produced OxyCotton, definitely killed more people where I'm from than
in Iranians did. So just as far as how many Americans are dead because of this person or that person,
Sackler family did a lot more death than brought a lot more death to where I'm at.
Before I get on out here, let me ask you this one last question because it's on my mind about
the Democrats. I think it's safe to say they've been losing, you know, the cultural moderates,
economically stressed voters. Both of those, I mean, we know this. The question that I'd have for
you is what is the heart of truth, the party's message and whether or not it's wrong or the messages,
and it's the messages that are wrong when it comes to your party. Is it about the message or
is it about the messages? I think it's about the combination of the two. I think part of the
problem is when you have people that are trying to say things they don't believe in, right? And when
you pick people and you try to tell them, here's a bunch of poll tested, you know, focus group tested
stuff that we want you to say and it doesn't actually align with what they believe about the world,
their worldview or their economic ideas or any of that, then you got a problem because then they
look like they're full of it. You know, when, when I tell you what I believe, it's easy because I
just talk, right? Now, if I try to be calculating and tell you things that I think you want to hear
or things that I think will play well your audience, then it's going to be harder. You know, like,
if I try to talk about sports long, I almost stumble around because I don't know nothing about it,
right? I know. So I think that's part of the problem. And the biggest problem is that they've
still got most of their bench thinks that it's going to be our economic problems are going to be
solved by the free market. And it's just not going to happen. The free market needs to have more
competition that it has. And what's going to compete with you not at health care,
signal? So you get like four or five companies that just sort of sit around and rake it in,
you need somebody to compete with them. And I don't think there's anything big enough, strong enough
and more powerful than the American people, you not need to do such a thing. And that means
the federal government and our state and local governments.
Co-founder brand new Congress, man was a communications director of Alexandria,
Ocasio-Cortez and the National Strategist for Bernie Sanders,
Corbin Trent to the show, Straight Shooter with Stephen A. Appreciate your time, man. Thank you so
much for the conversation. Really enjoyed it. Thank you. Take care.
It's a lot to unpack right there. No doubt about that. And I'm certainly going to do that with
the callers and then some up next. So stick around on going anywhere. You listen live, Straight Shooter.
Straight Shooter with Stephen A. Back with your calls in more in a minute.
What's up, Stephen A? Hope you're having a good one. My name is Tate and I'm from Washington, DC.
I'm a conservative. And I just wanted to ask you what you thought about DEI programs.
My main issue with these programs is that to adjust for outcomes that could be or could not be
because of discrimination, DEI put into practice deliberately discriminates on the basis of race,
which we would probably agree is not a good thing. And I was wondering what you think about
the status quo of DEI programs right now and what you would do to possibly fix the issues
underlying them and provide equal opportunity to all Americans. Thank you so much. Have a good one.
Appreciate that message from the caller. He wrote in, called in, series6m.com slash get series
to series6m.com slash get series. That's where you go to send your voicemail messages. We talk
about DEI. First order of business, let's be accurate about DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
What bothers me about DEI is that everybody's always looking at black people when it comes to DEI,
when in fact the biggest beneficiaries of DEI have been white women. Similar to affirmative action
if we're being honest. And that annoys me because the benefits to the black community are not anywhere
near what you think it is. And we just need to be very, very honest about that. Secondly,
ladies and gentlemen, and I say this with all fairness, it's not something I live on,
focus on or even talk about very often. But white America has to stop with its resentment and
just acknowledge what's really bothering you is fear. The white population at one time in this
country was near 90% and it's dipped continuously throughout the decades. And as we sit here in the
year 2026, it's at approximately 57% in dipping. So what all of these immigration issues and what
have you, what you're seeing is a society, a white society in the United States of America that's
incredibly fearful that the numbers are continuing to dip and before long it won't even be their country
because the vast majority of individuals in this nation will be migrants, immigrants,
particularly of Hispanic descent. That's your fear. It's respected. As far as I'm concerned,
I understand that. If this is your country and all of a sudden you're losing in numbers and you're
losing in influence in cash, and ultimately power is something that's going to concern you,
I get that. But there's a flip side to this coin that you don't take into consideration as it
pertains to the individual's question about DEI. When we talk about racial preferences,
that's the word you could use. What we could say is it's equaling the playing field
because for far too long throughout American history, if you were white, you had an upper hand
and you had an advantage. And some would even argue that in this very day, you're still
arguing whether it's 25, 50 or 50 yards ahead, you still got a head start because the system has
dictated that for you. And so an effort to even even a playing field is not a crime. It's bringing
attention to the inequities and the inequities that were exacted against disenfranchised communities
in this country. And that in and of itself is criminal. And it was a crime that was being corrected.
Now, this is not what it was in the 60s that I get that. And times have indeed improved.
And the blockages that existed, the roadblocks that existed in the past certainly are not the same now.
Well, it's not act like they've been completely eradicated.
We know better. Let's at least acknowledge that.
866-9667-887. That's 8696-POTUS. Back to the phones when we go.
Let's go to Rob in California. A lot of us, Steve and A. What's up Rob?
Steve and A, my man. It is so good to hear you. I was so excited when you got on this show.
I have followed you in your sports career for years. And here's what I've always loved about
you, my friend. Like a lot of us from New Jersey, you're good in a conversation. You're not afraid at
discourse. You believe what you believe. You were not bored knowing all things. You just have a
really good way of taking current events and communicating them and inviting good discourse.
And I love it. I agree with you 100%. I'm so many of the things you say. I'm sure you're going to
say things I don't agree with. And that's okay, too, because I love it. And I love hearing you.
We got to get you to a bigger audience and concise. I'd like to address a couple things. You
started off this great, great, great show with and followed it up with those great, great guests
that you had on. Thank you for that. Thank you, man. I appreciate those words, Rob.
It means a lot to me. Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate it.
Keep it coming, man. Keep the love coming. I'm here for it.
Steve and Michigan, you live with Steve and A. Talk to me.
Yeah, first go blue. Hey, sir, I have to say I was going to talk about something else,
but I want to say I would consider myself a progressive. And that guy, Trent, what a disaster.
You asked him questions about what would he say why people should take on progress?
I say retract the big, beautiful bill so the money goes to people who need it. Stop fighting
the Saudi, the UAE, and Israel's war and save a billion dollars a day. Go to all the money
made through graph and inside of trading by the Trump administration in Congress.
Revive tax was for that revenue obtained to investments attacked higher, not less than those
earnings that are done by actually working. And then I would talk about triple up economics.
That is good business to raise up the poor. Kids getting chalk here in better public schools,
get kids food on the table and stable housing, give quality healthcare to all,
make community college free so you can support jobs that we needed and certainly could you certainly
could be you certainly could be doing that as that's paying to spend the 800 million to two billion
a day for a war in the Middle East. You certainly could do that. No doubt you think absolutely.
You bring up the poor. What are they going to do? They're going to spend money on computers,
on cars, on groceries, on travel. Raise up the poor. That's a progressive mention that we should
be having. I don't even know what that guy talked about. Okay. I appreciate the call, Steve.
Thank you so much. Let's go to the phones. Let's go. Let's keep going to these phones. Let's go to
Sean and Missouri. You live at Steve and A. What's up? Sean, how are you?
Hey, Steve and A. Big fan. I consider myself a constitutional conservative.
Who's a big fan of Mark? The great one live in and Ted Coffle. I have a question for you regarding
Mark Wayne Moan. Yes, sir. Since you often discuss discipline, you know, regarding sports,
do you think Moan's MMA background would make him a tough leader for DHS or do you think
he has a low impulse control, which Rand Paul is what that's what he said. Rand Paul highlighted
it very astutely. And I think that when he had to be chastised and refrained by Senator Bernie Sanders
from going after a union, a team's president, that he challenged to a fight on the Senate floor.
I don't think that's a good look for him. No doubt about that. But we all make mistakes.
And Mark Wayne Moan, you know, he could be a tough guy, whatever it is, didn't serve in the military.
Obviously, it's not a, you know, not a four-year college graduate, graduate from a community college.
I don't want to hear anybody else complaining about the education of Judge
Katanjee Brown Jackson anymore when you consider his education in comparison. But I'm not judging
him. I think he's a significant upgrade from Christy Nome. Ain't nobody going to be worse than her.
And I think that, you know, again, tough guy, whatever, following the law of the land, being
constitutionally correct and up to par, I think goes a long way. And if he's willing to follow
the constitution, if they're not going to go into people's homes without a search warrant or
anything like that, if they're not going to violate people's civil rights, you know, I think
that, well, I think that we'll be fine. Now, obviously, you know, you can't run from law
enforcement for ICE or anybody or the CBP and then run into a home and think they can't come
after you in the home when they saw you run in there. Of course, that stuff, that kind of stuff
can't happen. But I do think that you needed somebody that wasn't interested in being a showman
and they were interested in getting a job done. And I think it's a chance anyway that that could
potentially be him. You know, Christy Nome was spending millions upon millions of dollars
promoting herself, doing commercials featuring her and all of this other stuff. That is utterly
ridiculous. That kind of stuff can happen. And oh, by the way, Sean, I'm not trying to get into
anybody's personal business. I don't roll like that or whatever. But when you are testifying
on Capitol Hill and your husband is in attendance and an elected official ask you whether or not
you are having an extra marital affair with a subordinate.
Simply saying it's a disgusting question while refusing to give an answer.
I don't know about the rest of y'all. But if I was a husband, we'd have a problem when I got
her home. I'll tell you that right now. We'd have a problem because that woman did not answer that
question. She never answered that question. You know what I'm talking about. She was a disaster.
And all of that is relevant because anybody is going to be an upgrade to her,
including Mark Waymullen. Those are my thoughts. Dave in California,
you're live with Stephen A. Go ahead. Hey Steve, I tell you what I was listening earlier.
I had a couple of things. I'm totally blind, right? And my dad was totally blind. He ran
what's called a dry stand. You know, annoyed. They had the Randolph Shepard Act that said they had
to hire blind people to do certain work. Other than that, we were supposed to go around with our
10 kelp and that was it, you know? And so I have kind of mixed emotions, but I think everybody needs
a chance. You know, and another thing is he was saying that got the last politician. He was saying
something about the Democrats built the highways. If I remember right, and I would
Democrat, but if I remember right, it was ice in the hour of the built the federal highway system.
Okay. All right. Appreciate the call, man. Jot Javier in Texas. She'll live with Stephen A. What's
going on, Javier? Hey, Stephen A. How you doing, man? I'm doing all right. Talk to me. The
beautiful stay down here in Texas. Yes, sir. What's going on? I've got a comment on the
save act. Man, there's so much to unpack on that deal. But I mean, first off, I'm going to tell you,
I'm an independent, but I do lean conservative. I'm down here in South Texas. I love my guns and
I love my money. And I don't want anybody taking it part of it. But based on today's politics and
the stuff that's going on, man, they're pushing me the other direction. The save act, you know,
I come from a family who would 100% be disenfranchised just by some of the things that they're
introducing out there. But let me play devil's advocate for a second. Okay. Number one,
how do you overcome the 24th amendment? The fact that it's a poll fact at the end of the day,
it can't cost any money to get this ID. Second, you want to make a, you want to make a federal ID?
Let's make a federal ID. That's what I said. Make sure that everybody has, it's free to everybody.
It's a locally available example. That's exactly what I proposed last week, Javier. Javier,
I proposed that last week. It shouldn't cost you a dime. It should be free and given to anybody
who's in the United States citizen. Simple. And if you do that, then there's no argument against it
and everybody wins. I mean, the other thing that kills me is there's no real issue, though.
I mean, if you take the 2020 election five or six states were, were checked by the AP,
how many was it? No, it's 50 million people, 475 possible fraud, 0.0018%.
There's no issue. It's completely to get in front of a whole section of people.
So, Javier, are you telling me you're down in Texas and as a right winger, you about to go left
because of what you see? Let me tell you something. I'm going to vote for Mr. Talleriko, man.
100%. And I have, I haven't voted Democrats since I was 20 years old. Wow.
Because you're that disgusted with the right. I am absolutely disgusted with the way it's going.
But I'll tell you, I'm not much happier with the left. But Javier is different deal.
Why do you think Talleriko is different? Man, he speaks from the heart. He says the things
that are correct. He actually, he actually was in a school down here at San Antonio. And I know
some of the people that he knows. And the guy is the real deal, man. He's not a lying person.
Okay. That's good to know. Javier, I appreciate the call, man. Thank you so much.
Jubilee Maddoxinics, I'm sorry, 866-967-887, it's 866-966-Potas.
Back with your calls to close out the show in a minute. It's straight shooter, which yours truly.
Don't go away. Go and do a show in a minute.
So, we want to bring out Mr. the President of the United States at just a moment.
I thank him for his unwavering commitment to the American people. And because of that,
it is our honor on behalf of all House Republicans, all of you here at All Patriots across the country
present the very first America First Award to the 45th and the 47th president of the United States,
Donald J. Trump. Mr. President, come on out.
I think I'm going to throw up. I mean, I might just vomit.
At a time when all of this is going on, talk about being tone deaf, talk about being detached.
This is the Republican Congressional dinner. And the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
is awarding Trump some great American awards, some gold statue. It's just so embarrassing.
It's so embarrassing. See, this is the problem right here, ladies and gentlemen.
It's the foring of this president. That's why you can't trust anything.
Because it's like it's a requirement to kiss his ass. You can't just do your job.
It has to be, I mean, they could get him a cup of coffee. And before handing him a cup of coffee,
everything is thank you for your great service to the American people, Mr. President.
Thank you for being the great leader that you are, or whatever. It's embarrassing.
When you see Pete Hakeseth acting like he doing Saturday morning on Fox News instead of being
the Defense Secretary, the Secretary of War, it's where it comes from. When he saw Christy
Known kissing his, his, his behind at every turn, applauding him. When you hear Pam Bondi doing
the same thing, it's embarrassing. He's the president. He's not God. He's not God. I'm waiting
for somebody to literally say he's God. You can't just, he can't just do the job.
You got to literally kiss his ass at every turn. That's what I'm talking about. The foring.
Do the job. Just do your job.
866, 967, 687, 8696, 96 podest Justin and Colorado. Go ahead.
Hey, Steven. Thank you so much for taking my call. I got a slightly different take on this
voter ID registration thing. Okay. I don't think we really need it, but I'm absolutely 100%
here for it. And let me tell you why. When I was a kid, you know, I'm a millennial. When I was a
kid, we had, we had this rock to vote. And everybody's vote needs to count. Everybody needs to get
out and vote. And what I've learned over my 50 plus years of life is that there are a bunch of
ignorant mofos that go out and vote just to vote. They have zero clue what they're voting on.
All they do is they vote on either A on party lines or B what they're told they do not look
at the issues. They don't even care about the issues. They're literally just voting because
somebody told them to vote. Okay. So what does that have to do with the say that?
Well, they're, they're okay. What it would do is that you're talking disenfranchising voters.
I think it would disenfranchise the lazy people that that are not that that don't want to do their
homework that don't want to go out of their way. Okay. Okay. So talk, talk, talk, talk to,
talk about justice. You do realize what you're saying, right? You're saying that
even the American citizen, some of them don't deserve to vote. That's what you're saying.
I agree. Yeah. I think you can't, you can't, you can't be an American citizen who swears you
believe in the Constitution of the United States and feel that way, Justin. Let me tell you
why. Are you a conservative? I lean conservative. I'm very liberal. I'm getting to a point. I'm
getting to a point. So a friend of mine, a guy that I know pretty well is Mark Levin conservative
radio host. You've heard that name, right? I've heard of him. I don't really pay much attention.
I understand. I understand. Well, let me tell you you need to because he's smart as a whip,
whether you like him or not. I don't agree with him sometime, but I'll never tell you he doesn't
know what he's talking about because he does. Let me tell you what Mark Levin told me years
ago and I never got as long as I live. He said, I don't give a damn what you know as an American
citizen. The voter goes to the poll and votes based on the one issue they care about. Don't let
them tell you differently. If you pro-choice or pro-life, that's your issue. If you pro-immigration
against immigration, that's your issue. If you pro-economy or against the economy, that's your issue.
He said, you pro-military against military, that's your issue. He said, that's why people go to
the polls. They don't go to the polls knowledgeable about every issue. They have the issue they care
about most and that decides their vote. So Justin, and I have never met a pundit or a commentator
who didn't acknowledge that to be true. So if that's the reality, man, then that's the reality.
That's not a reason to say people shouldn't vote because it's not about what you know. It's about
what you kidnap. And a lot of people don't care about other issues. A lot of people don't mind
if the economy is struggling. They like, I've been broke anyway. What difference does it make to me?
While others care a great deal about it, everybody has their own issue. And as long as you have
that issue that you care about Justin, that's all that should matter. 100%. I agree with that,
but people don't leave those other boxes blank. Well, you're not voting on issues most of the time.
You're voting for people. And that's what you got to remember. I got to go though. I appreciate the
call. John and Connecticut. Go ahead. Yes. Hi, Steve. Hi there. I wanted to just say that on the
on the SAVE Act, the big thing is the registration. I have no problem just showing my drivers license
when I go to vote. That's not a problem. But when you have to go and either have a
birth certificate or a passport to re-register. And also the case, that's going to cause
because they had a guy on the radio yesterday from Arizona who was the head of the
of the Registrar voters in a small county. But he said, look, we still have 50,000 people
in our county that want to vote. He said, I've got two people in this office with me.
And if you try to tell me now that I had to re-register 50,000 people before the elections,
he said, couldn't be done. Okay. It would be nothing but chaos. I got you. I appreciate your
perspective. I understand your point. We can talk about that all day every day, but I just don't
have the time to because I got to get out of here in the next few seconds. I want to thank everybody
for listening to today's show. I really, really appreciate it. Sorry, I wasn't able to get to
even more callers. I got to change that because I like talking to the callers. And I need to talk
to y'all a lot more to be quite honest with you. That's what I enjoy most. Thanks again, the
representative Donovan McKinney. Thanks again to former national strategist and communications
director, Mr. Corbin Trent. Hope y'all enjoyed this week's additional strength shooting with
Steven A. Hollett, y'all next Wednesday night, 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Tom. Until then, peace of
love, everybody. God bless. Be safe.
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