Chervin Jafarieh: We’re Living Behind a Veneer and It’s Destroying Us | DSH #1748

What's happening to generations right now, the mind control is real, and our desire

fit in or to look a certain way because it's been indoctrinated into us that this is

what beauty is. Someone that we're trying to attract is going to like us or think

we're valuable or we have something to offer is insanity.

Okay, guys, Chair Bean, back on the show. It's good to be back here, Sean. You've been

busy, man. Yeah, it's been a wild ride for the Symbatic organization. Congrats on the

race. That just got announced. Thank you. Yeah. I was just talking to my

partner, Shahab. And, you know, we're just really thankful that the mission we're

on is really being received out there. And we got some epic people that are now

part of Symbatic. And I think that was the whole genesis of why we did that.

Yeah. So exciting. And, you know, we're ready to pump out some really epic stuff.

Yeah, you guys have the target launch, right? Yep. Target launched a few weeks ago.

December is going to be our main path forward with Target. Very excited about that.

They're a great partner. And it just means, you know, more people that might not have

known the brand are going to see Symbatic. Yeah. So that's very exciting. I love it, man.

I'm a customer. Before we even met, I was a customer. I really liked the quality.

Quality is everything. How you do anything is how you do everything. And I know

we're going to talk a little bit today about the supplement industry and what's

really going on under the scenes. And from my vantage point, being a founder

and chief science officer of Symbatic. So I'm excited to get into the depths. Yeah.

I can't wait to get into it because there's someone that can afford, you know,

being proactive, I guess, with their health. I when I buy supplements, I only buy

if that's third party tested. Absolutely. Yeah. And third party testing is just

the most basic way to understand the credibility of a brand and what their

ethos is. And, you know, the whole supplement industry has become the

Wild West. You know, there's really no legitimate governing body that's

regulating how these products are made, where these raw materials are coming from.

I would say 95% of the brands out there are just marketing companies that use

a third party and they slap their label on it. And no one's really doing any

due diligence. I know this first 10 because I've been in the industry for so long.

Right. And my position, you know, with Symbatic was we were going to create something

that was so authentic, so transparent and really raised the bar. And it wasn't

about competing with any other brand out there. It was really competing with

ourselves. You know, some of our top skews, you know, I've rebuilt those formulas

almost 10 times. And what that shows you is that it's constantly getting better,

constantly evolving, never feeling comfortable. And the last two years, especially

a bit in the lab with my team, it's been all research and development, all hands

on deck. And we're really coming out with Symbatic stuff right now. So again, you

know, we're not trying to point fingers at everyone and tell them how they're doing

it wrong. We're just really trying to ignite knowledge and really activate the

consumer. So the consumer demand is there. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think consumers

are getting almost like distrustful of certain health brands, right? Of course,

as this should be, you know, you have a responsibility when you have a brand.

You know, these are things that people are not only spending their harder

money, but they're putting it into their bodies, they're putting it into their

children's bodies, and they're taking it not because it's trendy. They're taking

it because they want to feel better and they want to get back to homeostasis.

You know, we live in a crazy world right now. And ultimately, should we be

having supplements? No, we should be having the healthiest food on earth. But

the, you know, the food systems have become almost fringe and, you know, we can go

into those depths and those conversations have been had many times over. But we're

in a situation right now that if you can create high, octane supplements,

transparently, with very thoughtfulness and science backed, you know, you're

giving people an opportunity to really expand their health. Yeah, so as someone

watching this as a consumer, other than third party testing, what should they be

looking for? Say they're trying to buy some creatine or vitamin C online? Yeah,

you know, it's, it's interesting. So I'll just take those two products, for example,

vitamin C. Most vitamin C on the market is coming from GMO corn. They basically,

they take GMO corn, they turn it into a scorpic acid, and then they sell you a

scorpion. Yeah, GMO corn. GMO corn. Now, I can understand why they do that

because they're going after a margin, right? And vitamin C is very competitive

because every brand out there sells vitamin C. But most of that vitamin C not only

could it be, you know, undigestible, not bioavailable, coming from weird sources,

and maybe doing more harm than good, you know, most of it's not really explained

to the consumer how it's works and how it functions. The margins on that

material is insane. You know, we're talking about these, these are like derivatives

of, you know, petroleum industry and, you know, some weird manufacturing

process. Symbatica, not only are we making light-pissomal

vitamin C, but ours comes from a fermentation process from cassava.

And the reason why we do that, and now let me tell you, it's a lot more expensive

for us. Our margins are compressed. We're probably got the highest

compression of margins in the industry, which basically no margins.

And it's tough, but, you know, we admit a decision in the beginning that it's all about

transparency, and we're going to build a strong community. And that's how we're

going to do this. We're not a pump-and-dub group. We're not an Amazon business.

We're a core ethos brand value identity, you know, organization.

And so that's just one example. We use fermented, fermented

cassava. That's how we get our scorbic acid. We do a unique blend

combining that with sodium and scorbate. And we have all these different

active forms of bio nutrients combined to make light-pissomals

and make it 100% bioavailable. That's just one

facet of what we do. You just asked me about creatine.

All the material on the market is basically creatine that's coming from

overseas from somewhere that you don't recognize.

And we have made light-pissomal creatine

the first of its kind. You're holding it right now in your hand.

And that has not been released. That's going to be released in January.

And let me tell you about creatine, you know, and how valuable creatine is.

Because everyone's talking about it now. It's not just for Gymbro,

it's not just for getting that last rep. Creatine converts

into creatine phosphate in the body. Now we know that ATP

is the energy currency of the body, adenosine triphosphate.

When you're understressed, when you're in movement, when you're training

it turns to adenosine diphosphate. So you lose a phosphate group.

Creatine helps provide and replenish another phosphate

to bring that back up. That's extremely important for your brain,

for your cardiovascular system, for your energy, for your skin, everything.

Creatine is a universal compound, probably the most studied compound in the world.

The problem with generic creatine monohydrate

is that it doesn't break down properly. It clumps.

That's why a lot of people get bloating from it.

It's undesired effects, and that becomes a problem.

What we decided was we were going to not only make liposomal creatine

which protects the creatine and makes it into the gut properly,

but we were going to get a patent pending form from Europe.

Now let's talk about margins again. This is 7 to 10 times more expensive

for us than regular creatine. Wow. Just think about those numbers.

You can't comprehend that, but it was the only way

to make a soluble version in liposomes, because

creatine, standard creatine, you put it around liquid, you put it around water,

breaks down almost instantly to creatinine, which is a byproduct of creatine.

And what does that do? It just turns into kidney issues.

And you don't even absorb the value of the creatine.

So that product that you have right there that is made of only organic compounds,

vegetal coline, and pure creatin, which is the patent pending form of creatine,

is the most soluble pH protected form of creatine on the market.

It's never been done before. We're going to take that into clinicals.

How does that taste? Good, man. You make it so easy.

That's why I love your products too. I like glutathione.

I take like those. There's no weird preservative systems.

It's all organic turpines in there. We don't use natural flavors.

We don't hide behind the guides of natural flavors. We don't use any chemical synthetics.

We don't use potassium sorbate as a preservative.

We don't use any dyes. We don't do any of that stuff.

Yeah. That right there is literally fuel for your brain,

for your skin, for your nervous system.

Creatine is one of my favorite compounds. I have my mom on that product.

So valuable. And it's one of the pillars of health.

Mitocondria, ATP, inflammation, insulin sensitivity.

These are all factors that are at the pillars of a healthy, happy, healthy life.

Absolutely. Yeah. A lot of people are starting to care about health.

Reverse aging is a hot term right now.

Because Brian Johnson and Dave asked me to talk about it.

Do you believe that you can actually reverse aging?

I do. Yeah. I actually think, I mean, aging,

we now know as a form of disease.

Aging actually is almost like a phenomenon that can either be a healthy life cycle

or it can be extremely accelerated.

And because of our disconnection from nature,

our disconnection from all the things that make us human,

those accelerations are happening.

And then you throw in the fact that we're basically,

removed of all the proper nutrients.

Now we're unstable.

Throw an emotional health, fear, you know,

now social media, all the algorithmic stuff.

As Brian Johnson about algorithms.

And you'll understand I actually had a very healthy debate with him at his house.

Oh, really?

Yeah. He invited me over for dinner with a lot of famous people.

Well, they don't die dinner. That's right.

Don't die dinner. And me and him were probably going back and forth

for about an hour and a half while everyone was around us.

I love that.

And it was a very interesting conversation.

And I actually like Brian.

I have a different philosophy than him.

But I understand that there are certain things that we can do now

that will give us a lot of extension in life.

Not only living longer, but feeling better, looking better,

performing better.

I'm more about human potential as opposed to this extension,

because you never know what can happen.

And I, to my max of what my abilities are physically, mentally, emotionally.

I'm actually just coming back, coming off like a 40 day,

very low caloric load throughout the last 40 days.

Wow.

I've lost 25 pounds, actually, which is really interesting.

I cut my calories from, you know,

1800, 2000 to like 400 a day.

Uh-huh. That's nothing.

Yeah. It's average person I just found out in America each

of 3,500 calories a day.

Yeah. It's depending on where in the country, too.

It's probably spikes, but yeah, 3,500 seems to be standard.

And that 3,500 is not coming from like nutrient dense foods.

It's just like, you know, derivative of its own foods.

And, you know, weird raw materials that are coming from a massive industry.

So I've literally lost 25 pounds over the last 40 days.

And it's been, it's just one of those things that I do at every season.

You know, I'm starting that process.

And less is more, especially with, you know, what we put in our body.

I'm very like particular with that.

But I feel really good, mentally, emotionally, physically.

Those things are really at a high level right now.

I'm ready to start back on my caloric load.

I'm going to start getting back into the, um, my exercising and things of that nature.

But the last 40 days of taking about 23 pounds off.

I'm just having, I had all those 40 days.

You know, walks, uh, things like that.

Yeah, I'm not, I've been hitting the gym or hitting weights.

I've been doing like, you know, some air squats, kettlebells, stuff like that.

But I just wanted to give my body a rest.

Yeah.

You know, and we're coming off like a, you know, a summer.

Summer was the time of gym energy.

Like you're just explosive.

You're eating a lot more food.

You know, it's, it doesn't get dark till 8.30, 9 o'clock at night.

Right now it's like starting to get dark at 4 p.m., right?

It's a completely different life cycle.

And so I'm really big on seasons and understanding the season.

Not only with food, but with my lifestyle, with my energy expenditure.

Right now it's been a little bit more about creativity.

I've been in the lab a lot, um, really focusing on the new products that are coming out on Symbatica.

And, uh, it's just, it's just one of those things that if you understand how, um,

the topology and my topology work in the human body and how valuable it is to give yourself some time off from food.

This is, you know, could be one of the cornerstones of a gateway of someone to get healthy again.

Interesting.

So you're almost mimicking what our prehistoric ancestors did with the seasons, right?

That's right.

Because they wouldn't eat as much in the winter.

That's right.

Yes.

You know, you're, you're not moving as much.

You're more indoors.

You're more, it's, it's colder.

You know, these are certain things.

I, I just, I find that living by cycles gives me breakthroughs in life.

Wow.

You know, I'm very like cognizant that if we're just doing the same thing all the time, how can we actually have these really powerful breakthroughs?

But if we're changing things up a little bit, you know, looking at things differently from a, from a emotional perspective, from a worldview perspective,

we're able to have certain breakthroughs in those aha moments that can activate us into triumphant winds, 100%.

And, and that's like, you know, anything else, you know, if you want to break through a plateau, you've got to get uncomfortable.

And one of those uncomfortable ways is caloric restriction, which is a hermetic, you know, principle.

That which does not kill you makes you stronger and more resilient.

That's why, you know, we jump in cold rivers.

That's why we, you know, we go into a 180 degree traditional sauna.

That's why we hang upside down.

We do those things.

We sprint.

You know, we do the Norwegian 4x4, right, where we're, you know, maxing out 80, 90% of our VO2 for, you know, three and a half, four minutes.

You know, these are things that push the body to tell the system we want to stay alive.

And so if you're just sitting around, if you're stagnant, if you're caught up in the same mundane, your nervous system is going to wire you that way.

Your vagus nerve, which is your 10th cranial nerve, is going to, is not going to be calibrated to be able to equip you with certain things to expand and to relax.

And these are really important factors, especially with the chaotic lives we're living in.

Yeah, so it's almost like comfortability is the, is the enemy.

That's right.

Right.

But there's a time for rest, but you can't get too comfortable.

If you get too comfortable, then you get lost.

Right.

We need to be like, you know, we got to be growing our food.

Like, I know it sounds ridiculous to some people and things like that, but these things, these actions, great success stories.

Yeah.

And then you get prized for it, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

That's really important.

It's a reward system.

Yeah.

No, we started a garden last year.

We got rid of our microwave.

We feel way better.

Let's go.

Shower filters.

Yeah, the water and vagus is terrible.

I think we talked about that on the last podcast.

Yeah.

You know, one of the most important things you can do is to invest in a shower filter because it's not only the water you're drinking.

It's the water you're bathing in.

Yeah.

Right.

All the vapors, the trihalomethians, the compounds, we don't have to go down that list, but you know, it's a chemical cocktail soup and you're breathing it in.

Right.

Not only absorbing it through the skin, but it's getting into the lungs through the avioli and then hitting the blood supply.

The fastest way of getting a poison or drug into the bodies through the lungs.

Yeah.

You know, this whole LA fire situation, the pulsates fires, all the, you know, that was not a force fire.

That was a chemical soup cocktail explosion, runaway, disgusting fire that expanded out.

And, you know, basically we're burning lithium batteries and benzoons and all these other compounds, you know, hydrogen fluoride is being released.

All these different things, heavy metals.

And, you know, these people are sending their breathing all that stuff in.

It's kind of like what happened with World Trade Center, you know, that post-World Trade Center, all of those things that they're breathing.

These immediately embed into the, into the tissues of the body.

It's almost impossible to get a lot of that stuff out.

Really, even through sauna.

Oh yeah.

I mean, once, I mean, sauna, you'd have to go into advanced chelation therapy, IV chelation.

Wow.

Your lymph systems have to be cleared.

I mean, it's a whole process.

One thing with, you know, mercury issues today, methyl mercury and, you know, the whole thing with oral mercury in the mouth, metal in the mouth.

What that does to, you know, the brain, what it does to the nervous system, what it does to the vagus nerve again, which is a branch of proteins and wiring.

It's almost like fiber optics, right?

You know, the vagus nerve is so sensitive.

And the myelin sheath is like a jelly substance that protects those nerves.

Well, things like mercury, which turns into methyl mercury in the body, is basically like a hot razor blade.

And think of the, your fibers, the tubes, as butter.

It just basically cuts through all of that stuff.

And that's why people have dysregulated nervous systems.

That's why, you know, they have pots where they stand up and their heart rate explodes.

Their HRV is down.

They can't get proper sleep rest.

They can't digest foods properly because you have to be in a parasympathetic state to properly digest food.

I mean, I can go on and on and on.

There's so much done pack here.

I definitely want to, you know, I wanted to come here today and make it relatively simple because there's so much noise out there.

That's another thing.

And the advent to AI now and social media and AI, it's like, oh my god, I can't even comprehend what I'm listening to anymore.

It's like people are just basically, like verbatim reading AI scripts now.

And it's like, how do we get here?

And like we called it, remember our last podcast, Year and a Half ago, I mentioned to you that Rudolf Steiner, you know, you basically said that Ottoman, which is the entity of materialism, will come into form through AI.

But it will reduce the human evolution and will become copycats of ourselves, regurgitating the same stuff just for some type of affirmation, which is false anyways.

And, you know, you asked me about some other weird stuff about physical appearances and stuff like that.

We're really in that age right now where we have to stick a step back, take a deep breath, really look at the landscape and go, what the fuck are we doing?

That's not right now. Yeah, social media is creating some monsters out of people.

It really is.

Yeah, so right now, you might not have seen this trend, but they call it looks maxing.

And there's this guy named Clavicular who is just blowing up.

But basically, he does bone smashing on his face.

He's getting the surgery to improve his art.

Yeah, add four inches to his height where they break your shins, add four inches.

What is his name?

Clavicular. You'll start seeing him now that I've said it.

But basically, he's performing all these surgeries because it's all about looks.

And a lot of these young guys are getting impression by this.

Yeah, I mean, that's a dangerous spiral.

Yeah, and he's also on advocates and he advocates for this.

What's that acne medicine?

That acutane.

He's on acutane.

Wow.

And he's promoting that, which is basically destroying his brain and his liver.

Yeah.

I mean, that might be the last thing he should be worried about.

This is scary times because what's happening to generations right now, the mind control is real.

And our desire to fit in or to look a certain way because it's been indoctrinated into us

that this is what beauty is.

And this is how the, you know, someone who we're trying to attract is going to like us

or think we're valuable or we have something to offer is insanity.

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That hijacks the moral ground.

And when the moral ground is hijacked, then you have no desire to become a complete version of yourself.

What is a complete version of yourself?

How you show up for community?

How you show up for your family?

What good you're bringing to the world?

What value you're bringing to the world?

Imagine a portion of the population or a huge portion of the population was operating with those ethos.

We'd be in a much better place right now.

Our economy would be better.

Our food systems would be better.

Our dependence on a fraudulent medical system would be almost gone.

We would have food sovereignty, health sovereignty.

We'd have emotional freedom.

We wouldn't have the breakdown into fights and arguments.

We'd be able to communicate properly.

The whole war machine and military complexes of the world would shut down.

It would be a completely different world.

And the way that commerce is working right now is all of it is all part of together in some type of algorithm.

And we're heading towards a cliff with no breaks and no parachute.

That's happening.

And I think humanity is at a point right now where people are in so much pain, anger, and frustration that they don't care anymore.

Now, I'm generalizing and I know there's a big portion, there's also a portion of population, especially with the mothers that are fighting for their children.

Yeah.

And I honor that.

And I'm there.

I'm there as their brother.

And I'm all in on that.

I agree.

Yeah.

Yeah, these algorithms are out of control.

And as someone that has a lot of insight and data and analytics on what videos go viral.

For the most part, I'll just be honest.

It's usually the negative videos that go viral.

Yeah.

It's not someone like you giving amazing health advice.

I'll get a couple hundred thousand views, but the videos that get millions are usually someone calling someone out or like being controversial, you know.

So what do we do about that?

You know, and I know it's you're in a tough position because you're not competing in a vacuum.

And I find that same issue too because it's like sometimes I'm like, I'm putting a lot of thought and a lot of time and a lot of energy by putting really valuable posts out there sharing parts of my heart, sharing parts of my soul,

showing my triumphs, showing my failures, showing the pain I went through with losing my father, all of those things.

And, you know, it's the algorithm does not reward that.

But I have a lot of, you know, there's a lot of reaction to what I'm putting out there.

I have loyal people around me.

There's a lot of reciprocity to that.

And I feel good about that.

But I also see the fear mongers that are using really polarizing stuff and they just hit you with that.

And all of a sudden the algorithm explodes.

Yeah.

And I'm conflicted at times and I'm thinking, how do I crack that code where maybe I can get this to expand out more without selling my soul?

It's a tough spot to be in.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's really tough.

Right now I'm just having on all sorts of perspectives and seeing what sticks.

But at the same time it could be damaging if I go down a darker path.

Yeah.

If I keep platforming certain people.

So I'm in a tough spot too.

Yeah.

Be wary.

I know that again, you're not competing in a vacuum and you do need to expand out and keep growing.

You've done an amazing job.

But be wary of like how far you let things go.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Because we all have a responsibility here, I believe.

Yeah.

If we didn't have a responsibility, it'd be complete chaos.

Yeah.

And so I think that there's ways to elicit people to want to take a second.

They take two seconds to tune in, right?

Because the attention.

You only have two seconds or they're scrolling.

Right.

So it's like, do you have to, do we have to hit them with, with danger?

Out the gate?

Like, does the alarm have to go off?

I don't know.

I thought the way to bridge the gap would be to have debates.

Yeah.

I've been moderating some.

But even those can get out of control and people just clip farming.

Right.

And I just got a strike for a health debate.

I'm moderated.

So I'm still trying to figure it out.

But at the moment, these algorithms are just favoring controversy.

Yeah.

That's how it is.

Yeah.

Well, let's get controversial.

But let's get controversial with purpose.

Yeah.

Right.

To call out bad actors.

Call out bad com.

We don't have to name drop companies because we might get in trouble.

But just bad people in the space, you know.

Yeah.

I'm here for it.

Yeah.

It's really unsettling, I guess, in your space that you need to address.

Well, I think there's, you know, let's talk about liposomes.

You know, there's a lot of companies, a lot of imitators, a lot of people that tried to copy

what we did at Symbatic.

Yeah.

And it's, you know, it's unfortunate because we've spent a lot of time, a lot of energy on intellectual property,

on research and development, and blood sweat and tears on doing things the right way.

And all of a sudden, you know, you have groups out there that just basically mix, you know, soy

lessethin or sunflower lessethin with any raw material, and they call it a liposome,

which is the furthest thing from the truth, with no thoughtfulness, no science, no research,

no actual fundamental care for the end consumer.

And I think they put a bad taste in people's mouths, especially in mind.

Yeah.

And so I am, you know, working with my team to really elevate the educational part of this,

because I don't want liposomes to just become trendy.

I want them to be relevant to people's health.

Liposomes were created in the 70s to deliver 100% bioavailability on specific drugs.

That application came over into the space of nutraceuticals and symbiotica and our team.

We work really hard to make the most efficient and indestructible liposomes out there.

So they can actually pass barriers, get into the GI and actually absorb into the blood stream

and do what they're supposed to do, which is carrying high nutrient payloads to the body tissues,

to the cardiovascular system, to the brain, to the organs of the body.

And so I'm, you know, working with my team on really bringing out that education

and we're going to do a really, we're going to do a much better job of that going into next year.

Outside of that, you know, again, I mentioned earlier, all these brands, most of them are marketing companies.

They have no idea what they're doing.

They'll go to a manufacturer.

They'll tell the manufacturer, this is what I want.

And they'll put together, they'll throw it into a capsule, they'll put it into a bag with some powder.

Yeah.

And then at the end of the day, they'll add some expedience in it.

They'll put some, you know, titanium dioxide in there, fillers, gums, all these different things,

dies, artificial flavors, all that kind of stuff.

And then they'll go sell it and they'll make their margin.

This stuff is moving. It's moving on Amazon, it's moving in stores.

I go walk around in any health food store, I still see a lot of crap out there.

It's actually amazing that this stuff is still there.

And so I, you know, I really want to bring awareness that what you put on your, in your body,

be very clear with what your intention is.

Don't do it because you saw some influence or doing it or because your friend did it.

Take three minutes and learn about it.

I always ask people, people come to me and go,

sharing what symbiotic supplements should I be on.

And I'm like, well, they're all like my children.

I can't tell you where to go.

But what I can tell you is, go learn about them first.

Right.

I never want to lend an idea to someone, even coming from me,

without them practicing something called discernment.

Discernment is the opposite of fear, right?

It's making a decision, not based on fear.

It's not, it's making a decision based on education and information.

And then you ultimately making a choice.

Exactly.

Which is critical.

We need more discernment in every part of our life right now.

Yeah.

You're non-dessurning citizens today.

Yeah.

Would you understand?

Yeah, not even close.

I'm very targeted with my approach with supplements.

So I'll take up blood tests.

And for example, I had a vitamin D deficiency.

So I'm taking that.

I take your vitamin C when I have to fly.

Because I don't want to get sick when I'm traveling.

Yeah.

I take creatine every day because I lift and I use my brain as a host.

I want to be in the best shape.

Great.

So anything I'm deficient in or I want to get better at,

I'll just take that as a supplement.

We got to get you on our D3K2 CoQ10 company.

Yeah.

So like, our D3 comes from a cross of algae and fungi.

It's a very specific form of D3 and it breaks down into the body

into the most absorbable form of that hormone.

D3 is actually not a vitamin.

It's a hormone.

It's what synthesized from sunlight on,

from the cholesterol on our skin turns into D3.

Then it activates thousands of genetic expressions in the body.

At the corner of, you know, our immune system is hormone D3.

Sunlight is part of the entire wave of the entire system.

We're actually electrical before we're chemical.

And so our D3 has that.

It's actually coming from Lycan.

That's what it's called.

We combine that with K2 and both versions of K2,

which is the MK4 and MK7 version.

They have two different activations.

You don't want to take D3 without K2.

K2 is actually what takes free floating calcium from your blood and tissues

where you don't want them and pulls them into your bones.

Wow.

Really critical part of human biology and human biochemistry.

It's an enzymatic process.

The combination of D3 K2 creates that.

What's the leading cause of death in the world?

Arthosclerotic disease.

Calcification of the heart tissue, which is a combination of a pH problem.

You're not getting calcium into the bones.

Not having K2 in your diet.

And also stress and inflammation.

Well, the combination of D3 K2 solves a big part of that.

You throw in magnesium into the mix.

And now you have the perfect collaboration.

And I don't know if you just saw, but we just released the most insane

magnesium tri-complex in the world.

I have a form of magnesium in there called magnesium glycerophosphate.

It's bound to phosphate.

We talked about phosphate earlier.

It's basically a salt.

It's one of the most absorbable forms of magnesium.

It crosses every barrier in the body.

Wow.

And I combine that with magnesium glycinate.

And magnesium torrid.

Torrid is torrid.

Glicinates glycine.

These are very important amino acids that have different functions.

Glicine lowers cortisol, lowers stress, easily digestible, gets all over the body.

Torrid goes right to the cardiovascular tissue.

And then you have the magnesium glycerophosphate, which gets into everywhere in the body.

That combined with our D3K2 coq10, which is a coenzyme, antioxidant for heart for the heart,

is a powerhouse.

Who?

Have all your friends and family on this.

Yeah.

Have your parents on this.

Everyone on that.

Just those two alone.

Cancels out so many issues.

And it's probably one of the main things that people are missing today.

Yeah.

I definitely need that one.

I actually did a full body MRI at Pranovo.

And believe it or not, stress showed up on my MRI.

I believe it.

I can't.

I didn't even know that was possible.

Yeah.

Where did they see that?

They saw that in the in the occipital or they saw that in the organ tissue, do you know?

How did they?

How did they?

I got to reread the report, but either way it was visible.

Okay.

And they said I need to take magnesium.

Yep.

I need to get on that, man.

There's a quote I got.

I got 99 problems and magnesium fixed all of them.

It might have been the brain one actually, because I did a brain scan too.

Okay.

So it could have been that, but shout out to Pranovo, man.

Yeah.

I actually might be working with them.

I got a scan from them about two years ago.

We're in conversations right now.

I love what they're doing.

Yeah.

You know, it's just one of those things.

You know, it's like.

It's part of technology today.

Not all technology is great.

This technology is good.

Let's take a look and see what's going on behind under the hood.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And I like that it's an MRI too.

Yeah.

Full body too.

Radioactive stuff.

You're not dealing with radiation.

It's magnetic resonance image.

My two key takeaways from interviewing Andrew, the founder, spine degeneration is advancing rapidly.

Yes.

There's a phones.

Yeah.

So that to me made me want to like get way better posture.

And I already have arthritis in my back.

Yep.

Stinosis.

Yeah.

I have my neck too.

Yeah.

It's a long cancer and non-smokers.

Yep.

He said it's skyrocketing.

Skyrocketing.

Crazy.

I just saw that data report.

It makes sense.

You know, it's, it's hormesis like someone who's been smoking cigarettes for 30, 40 years.

They've kind of built the biofilm and the antibodies and the ability to remove and deal with those toxins.

Smoking a pack of marble reds for 30 years is that good for you?

No.

They're going towards a cliff.

Yeah.

But their body's been able to be resilient against it.

Someone who's got second hand.

Someone that's exposed to certain things.

Or it doesn't have certain nutrients in the body.

Could activate lung cancer.

Wow.

And that's, and we're, you know, we're subjected to so many toxins right now.

Yeah.

And especially with the LA fires and all that stuff.

Geez.

So if you're too sheltered, it's almost a bad thing.

It's like what happened to COVID, right?

Yeah.

100%.

When everyone started leaving, they got sick.

Perfect example.

Yeah.

We need to, our body needs to be working out.

It needs to be throwing punches.

You know, it's a very, very simple philosophy.

You know, the more multi-dynamic the body systems are.

The more that they're tested on a daily basis minute by minute.

The more we can adapt to those stressors.

Right.

If we're, if we're unadaptive, we have no, what are we going to do?

You know, it's like throwing someone into a, you know, a UFC fight.

Who hasn't been training or practicing or elevating their cardiovascular system.

They'll get shut down.

In any way, they'll get shut down grappling.

They'll get shut down up on their feet.

It's the same thing with our immune system.

Oh, makes sense.

Yeah.

Have you seen anyone still struggling with lung COVID?

Yes.

Oh, I get hundreds a week.

Wow.

You know?

Yeah, either, you know, post-vaccine injured or lung, lung COVID.

Yeah.

It's a real thing.

It's been years.

It's basically what's happened is they're having an internal fire in their entire immune system.

Everything's on fire.

It's chaos.

The control system of the autonomic nervous system is deregulated.

And so their body's not able to adapt to anything.

And so the wires are being crossed.

And that's a real problem.

And so, you know, you hear a lot of things like nicotine could be something that helps that pathway.

So I've done a lot of research.

You know, I've been a tobacco grower for 20 years in my cousin.

I'm not advocating smoking tobacco.

But, you know, I'm living in the jungles and exploring those things.

Tobacco is a very powerful compound.

It's a cleanser.

It's a protector.

You grow it next to your fruit trees.

It's just one of those things.

Well, nicotine has a pathway.

It's the nicotine pathway.

And the colonogenic pathway, which is where acetylcholine is formed in the brain and in the gut,

is a very important pathway when it comes to immune modulation.

And so long COVID, that pathway becomes disconfigured.

And what nicotine does, you know, if you do like a patch or something,

three milligrams, five milligrams, seven, it helps activate that pathway.

So there's more flow.

There's more energy.

There's more direction.

And the people are having some relief from that.

And you throw in things like pine needle tea,

nato kinase, which is a fermented nato, which is fermented soybeans.

You know, it really eats up the fiber in in the body,

which is a protein that causes clots and things like that.

There are certain things that you can do that people should be doing right now.

As long as, as well as being hydrated.

That's a big one.

That came up on my report too.

I was dehydrated.

Yeah, I think everyone's clinically dehydrated today.

I was shocked, honestly, because I do drink a lot.

But I guess, yeah, I'd be living in the desert in Vegas.

I'm more likely to be dehydrated.

For sure.

I mean, if you're not getting, you know, proper fruits in your diet

and drinking salt water on a daily basis, you know,

even that is probably not enough.

Wow.

Like you might have to go even into deeper depths of your hydration.

I think there's so many, all these things we're reaching for all these things.

But at the core, if you know, we're not doing the basics,

we're not getting sunlight, we're not sleeping properly,

we're not hydrated, we're constipated, things like that.

Yeah.

All everything just backs up, literally, for sure.

And then you're just looking for, you know,

allopathic recipes.

And so it's the same thing, like even holistic stuff,

like herbalism or even the nutrients that I'm talking about.

That's all, if you think about it, it's kind of allopathic,

because you're looking to solve a foundational issue.

You got to get the foundations there before you start going outside of it.

That's like this whole thing with peptides, right?

The peptide craze is out of control.

And it's funny, because I've been around peptides since I was like 19.

Wow.

I remember I was taking GHRP6 and CJC, no DAC, the drug affinity complex.

I was taking Ipa Moralin, modified GRF.

I was a big fan of peptides.

This is when I was training a lot and recovering a lot.

I was never a fan of exogenous stuff, like regular growth hormone and stuff like that.

I like things that produce growth hormone in my body through the pituitary access.

And that's what those compounds were doing, you know?

And right now, that world has come back a thousandfold.

And you have all these influencers online that are like regurgitating AI content around these peptides.

And they're missing the boat on so many other things.

Number one, where are they getting this stuff from, right?

Number two, what is the foundational stuff you do before you start injecting yourself with peptides?

But there, you know, in true fairness, a lot of the peptides out there,

some of them are, could be valuable for a lot of people, you know?

Yeah, I wanted to get your opinion on two, specifically.

So I forgot to mention clavicular, the kid I mentioned earlier.

He's 19 years old and he's on TRT.

He is self-admitted.

He's infertile.

His testosterone level is 2200.

When you hear about TRT, I mean, to me, I don't know about that one.

You know, what do you think?

I mean, ideally, you can go on TRT when you're like in your mid-60s.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Maybe even further, if you do things, right?

How old is this guy?

He's 19.

19.

Yeah.

I mean, that's chaos, right?

That's chaos for everything.

That's chaos for him.

I mean, I feel bad for him.

And I also feel bad for anyone that follows that strategy.

Yeah.

That's young.

That is insane.

You know, you're at 19, you're like, you should be in like peak testosterone ranges.

Yeah.

You know, from free and active testosterone.

My total testosterone right now is 970.

Wow.

That's high.

I don't take any exogenous testosterone.

I just make sure that the pillars of my life are there.

I'm getting healthy fats.

I'm getting colon in my diet.

I'm eating raw egg yolks.

I'm getting sunlight.

I do squats.

I'm active.

You know, things like that.

I'm mineralized.

I'm hydrated.

I think there are some factors of genetics that play into testosterone production.

But you don't need to be at 970 or a thousand.

You could be happy and healthy at 600, 700, depending on your endocrine system and your way of life.

The peptide craze and the TRT craze and all these things, these are all all apathic stuff.

You know, it's searching for a pill.

Searching for an injection.

Searching for a solution when the foundation is rotting.

And it reminds me of a veneer.

Right?

This world has become a veneer.

Good analogy.

You know, we're trying to put a cap over something.

Right?

This is a veneer.

Putting it over.

Looks good from the outside.

Looks good from the outside.

But on the inside, it's rotting.

Yeah.

And when you put veneers over things, not only does that place become, you know, there's no like aerobic or anaerobic activity

because there's no oxygen and no water and no blood supply.

It starts to decay.

And decay becomes a cancer.

And decay rots.

And it starts to feed into everything else.

Our world is a veneer.

It's acting as a veneer right now.

Again, social media is a veneer.

Everyone will choose how to create an outer protective shell over getting down to the issues.

And the issue is really, you know, we're talking about all these health factors.

But it's the common law of trauma.

It's the social landscape.

It's your inner wisdom.

It's your inner voice.

It's your purpose.

It's your connection to God.

It's your connection to family and friends.

Those are the things that have to be congruent with the life that you want to live.

If those places are empty, your life is a veneer.

And when you're in that reality, you're not making the right choices because you're doing them out of pain and frustration.

Right.

That's the whole thing with now like GLP ones and all these things.

Like we shouldn't have to mimic fasting and autophagy through injections.

We should be at the core there.

Now, I understand that there are certain people that have just gone through so much shit in life

and haven't been able to rectify those issues or come to terms with them.

Do things like compassionate inquiry, which is a way of going to your inner child.

These are emotional healing techniques.

And so they have to potentially go on some of these aggressive drugs

and really get to the root of why their metabolic system is completely out of whack.

But when you're in pain, when you're in fear, you're going to have metabolic issues.

When you have metabolic issues, you're going to have digestive issues.

When you have digestive issues, you're going to have inflammation.

When you have inflammation problems, your body is going to have a mitochondrial breakdown.

When you have mitochondrial breakdown, you'll have no ATP.

The mitochondrial is what converts food, nutrients, light, energy, salts into a dynastine triphosphate,

which is, again, the currency of energy throughout the body.

It's a pretty simple process when you understand how the cycle of the body works.

This is all broken down through the creb cycle, right?

Or the, you know, the folate system of how the body replicates cells and breaks down cells

and it either replenishes them or goes into apoptosis.

When these things don't happen, your body goes into senescence, immunosenscence,

which means senile cells.

That means they're not responding to any more transcription or any more messages anymore.

When your body goes into senile, you fundamentally break down.

Wow.

This is when rapid aging happens.

This is when pathologies begin.

Diabetes, cancers, heart disease, other weird stuff.

And we're seeing more exotic stuff every single day.

And as Brian Johnson will say, and other health advocates, such as myself,

the health span is now getting reduced.

We're going into the disease spans sooner.

And what are we trying to do?

We're trying to put a fucking veneer over it.

It's like, you know, driving your favorite, craziest hypercar in the world, a Bugatti.

That's worth $30 million.

You take it out of the dealership, right?

And as soon as you're driving on PCH, you have nine check engine lights go on.

And then what would a normal person at that point, who just spent $30 million on a car,

they would immediately pull over and have it towed to a facility so they can check it out.

But we're not doing that.

We're putting duct tape over those check engine lights and continuing to drive facts.

Right?

And that veneer is a destructive force that's happening in society right now.

And the economy is suffering for it.

And we're fighting unsensit-less wars for it.

We're really like, you know, we're robbing Peter to pay Paul.

We're trying to buy time, but we're losing the equity of time.

It's a radical, a radical spiritual shift needs to happen now.

Yeah.

And I'm here.

I'm here for it.

Absolutely.

Such a good analogy.

And it resonates with me deeply because what got me started on this health cake was my first MRI.

Two years ago, I looked good.

I was skinny, but I had so much visceral fat on the inside.

Wow.

It looked disgusting.

Wow.

I was wearing my whole chart to like a 40 year old and I looked away worse.

That's crazy.

And I was skinny six packs.

Skinny, skinny visceral fat is the most dangerous.

Yeah.

Right?

Because that means that your body is, it's really suffering.

And then accumulating that visceral, you know, I would say almost like unmetabolic fat,

which is filled with cytokines and inflammatory cytokines around the organs.

Just to protect, right?

And it's around the liver.

It's around the gallbladder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had liver issues.

Luckily now, two years later, I've fixed that, but I still have on my blood work.

I might have an autoimmune disease now because of that.

Well, we can reverse engineer all that.

Autoimmune just means the body is not able to communicate properly.

It's actually just a actually ridiculous catchphrase.

You know, all this stuff, Hashimoto's and celiacs and all these different things.

No, we just, we need to get the mitochondrial recharged again.

We need to get to the electrical solution.

The liver, you know, I always say like, where does someone to start?

You know, you start doing all the things like you're, you know, you're doing your breath work.

You're hydrating.

You're doing the salts.

You're sleeping.

You know, you have a good life partner in your life.

You're not in chaos fight all the time.

Okay, you got the basics down, right?

You're not bathing in EMF all day long, right?

You know, those things are important, right?

Let's focus on the liver.

The liver seats at the house as the alchemist.

It converts everything in the body from toxic to neutral, to neutral energizing.

The liver is what converts all the hormones.

It's converts T4 and the T3.

It's what pushes out toxins.

It regulates the entire temperament of the entire body.

I would say most people are dealing with some type of liver problem right now.

Non-aquaholic fatty liver disease, which is an insulin issue.

It's a metabolic problem is running rampart right now.

It's like literally like an unstoppable force right now.

Is that from diet mainly?

It's from diet.

It's from emotional problems.

It's from light pollution.

It's from light pollution.

Yeah, all of those things.

You know, we're not saying that how important light is.

That's why when I came here, I was like, can we at least lower the burden of these LEDs?

You think it's really that damaging?

It's 100%.

Wow.

Absolutely.

That's why I'm wearing these glasses right now.

Wow.

Yeah, light pollution is real.

It's not woo-woo.

This is a mitochondrial breakdown.

We're not designed to be having certain single spectrum forms of light.

The energy guys thought it was a good idea to not use full spectrum lights

because we're going to save a little bit of energy by just offering one spectrum.

That one spectrum is robbing the circadian system, the biological clock.

And it is tinkering with our hormones.

It's sending us into chaos.

But probably maybe even more important than the food that we eat.

That's how serious this is.

I feel bad for news anchors.

Like Steve Nees Smith is under these lights.

Of course.

They're getting bombarded.

They're getting rocked.

And these people are flying around in planes all the time.

I feel it.

I mean, I have a whole strategy on how I do these things.

And it's not about being in fear.

It's about being advanced.

Yeah.

It's about an act of self love.

I understand human biology and optimization.

I'm going to go take it a step further and really activate my body's ability to handle these things.

And the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to make sure that I stay away from them as much as possible.

Now, I know that might be a luxury that some people can't afford.

So what do you do?

You've got to get some glasses.

You've got to get certain things.

And you've got to make sure that you're getting touched by the sun on the rise every single day.

And at nighttime, when the sun declination makes its way west towards Hawaii,

we got to let the burden of light not affect us.

We can't be exposing ourselves to blue light all night long to our phones, to our TVs, to our tablets,

all of those things, even traffic lights and all those things.

They're chaotic.

Wow.

They don't allow certain productions of hormones happening, like the main one, melatonin.

Melatonin, we now know, is a more critical antioxidant that gluteothion.

Wow.

The one of the most powerful tripeptides in the world that symbiotic, of course,

has combined with PQQ and CoQ10 in the liposomal form, which I take three times a day, by the way.

That one changed me, man, because I have the MTHFR break.

So taking gluteothion was a game trainer.

So 70% of the country has some variants of MTHFR gene mutation.

And it's just basically your body has a little bit of exhaustion, or a little bit of a problem of being able to go into the methylation cycle.

And so your detox pathways are a little bit harder to process.

Your ability to cleanse cells are a little bit more difficult.

So you need methylating things, like gluteothion, like our methyl B12 combo, right?

Like our L-methophoolate combo, like sulfurophane.

That's why I eat broccoli sprouts.

These things are sulfur related, and they help you.

Melatonin is critical, and it's critical for our bodies to endogenously produce it.

It's not about taking an outside pill or an outside anything.

And if you are not producing melatonin on the rise, because it happens on the rise,

and it's released at night when the sunlight is fleeting, and you're looking at fire,

you're looking at an incandescent bulb, that, or red light therapy, or anything like that.

That's when melatonin is released.

If you hijack that, and you do that for a certain period of time,

you're weighed beyond a healthy experience.

And there's nothing you can do to circumvent that.

And you're just running, running, running until you basically dry out electrically.

And that's what they call the browning effect.

And when you start oxidizing and browning, then all of a sudden,

you're basically in rapid age processing at that point.

And you can veneer all you want.

But by the time you're in your 40s, you're in serious trouble.

You have cognitive issues, chronic fatigue is now syndrome.

It's actually, they call it chronic CFS.

How do we create your exhaustion of your cells into a cell?

Into a syndrome?

That's crazy.

It's crazy.

We've really, I always like to say, we've forgotten what we've forgotten.

Yeah.

We're at that level of illusion.

Well, that's not some, man.

I know you got a lot of new products launching.

We'll link a site below.

What else is next for you, man?

Where can people find you and everything?

What's next is, we're coming out with a liposomal, NAD, trimethyl glycine,

trademark lutamax combo, which is the most beautifying cell activation.

I would say compound grouping ever that comes out in the next couple of months.

Our liposomal creatine is coming out in January.

It's insane.

Got so many epic events coming up.

Going to be going all over the world pretty soon.

So excited about what's going on.

Me and Shahab are always talking about what we're doing.

Sometimes we have to step back and be like, holy shit.

Yeah.

We're helping a lot of people.

I was at F1 this weekend.

At least 50 people.

I was walking around, came up to me and go, thank you.

Wow.

Thank you for what you're doing.

That's awesome.

It never gets old for me.

That's part of my love language is those types of affirmations.

I don't need to hear anything other than thank you for showing up.

And so I'm hyped on that.

That's awesome.

We're going next level.

It's on.

Dude.

Thanks for your time, man.

That was fun.

Appreciate it.

I hope you guys check out symbiotica.

We'll link it below.

Peace.

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