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bet 365 and a couple of minutes ago. Megan Keller was anything but ordinary. Just

one goal to four team USA in overtime after they tied the game late one nothing

forever and ever and ever empty net USA ties it and then they win it in

overtime. What a game for the US women who have now beaten Canada eight straight

times and sucks to suck. Yeah. What a loser country. That's awesome. Like that

was it was it was not looking good in the first half but they they pulled it

together late in the game and a big play by Hillary Knight with the goal goal

he pulled to get the game tire. Most Olympic goals by US hockey player men's

periods. End of statement. Yes. For Hillary Knight, they're her 15th career Olympic

goal in her final Olympic game. Yeah. Probably I mean probably none bigger than

that one to send it to OT and then prior to Keller's game winner, which was a

beautiful play. I asked Chloe, what's the equivalent of get your jock out of

the rafters for a woman? You offered insight. What is the other jills? Oh,

jills. Yeah. There you go. Get your Jill out of the roster. Get out of the rafters.

I said sports bra. I was like the best. I didn't hit the I let her say we're a

couple we're a couple minutes. That's fine. We got delayed for the timer. Yeah.

The Abby Murphy is what you're. Yes. Awesome. Abby Murphy on the on the back

check to basically a two on oh she catches up to Darryl Watts who if you missed

yesterday's show week. Tough week. We mentioned tough week for her. But Abby

Murphy's coming back on the on the back check and she's in the center lane

between Watts who's carrying the puck ahead of her and then there is a I don't

know who was but it was another team Canada player. And Abby Murphy goes over the

back of Watts to the other side because Watts the left handed shot. So instead of

staying in the middle just to you know take away the pass or anything like that.

She makes the play to lift the stick. That was great play. Such a great play.

And I mean who knows Watts wasn't even able to get a shot off.

It was probably play play of OT besides the winner.

It was such a clean play and let's please identify Abby Murphy correctly as

Southside Irish Catholic Abby Murphy. Yeah. A product of Holy Redeemer and

Mother McCulley High School salute. Yeah. Kalen is at the watch party. Yes.

For for Abby Murphy. I assume there's at least eight is a wasky at that party.

My aunt has I'll send it to you Chloe. My aunt has a sign on her lawn. Yeah.

Because my aunt lives a block from Holy Redeemer and a block from

McCulley. She's right in between. So she's very proud of Abby Murphy and that

was what a play. That like it's those little things and we've seen it you know

when the Hawks are winning championships. Those little moments that

maybe aren't always the key goal or you know the puck going in. It's those

moments before that are so important and that looked like look on a three on

three. Canada gets an odd man rush and Abby Murphy just turns on the

jets and says absolutely not. Awesome. It doesn't take a penalty. Yeah.

And Abby's got a bit of a reputation. So maybe refs looking for a penalty

from her. Yeah. And she still makes the play just awesome to see what a

moment. Yeah. And then yeah Megan Keller scores

beautiful winner stretch pass from Eglie with Taylor.

Heisee a pass that would have been illegal in the NHL

about 30 years ago but yeah just a great stretch pass and then she makes the

outside in move goes backhand and Renee does be and gets

just a little bit of it but not enough to say when's gold.

You got to get more than that. Just awesome. Awesome. Hopefully

a tone setter. Yeah. For the and something for now now the men got a step up.

Men got to get to not only the gold medal game. She got to win.

Got to win it. Look man they can. They certainly they're going to have to find

some offense. They're going to have to find some firepower.

The defense has been good. The goal tenning's been good but you're going to have

the score to beat Canada and they've got to find a way. And look I will say

I have had a bit of a feeling about the men of like maybe playing with their

food a little bit for lack of a better concern but they cannot do that

against Slovakia. No. Slovakia is a pain in the ass. They are

going to fight you tooth and nail for 60 minutes.

Maybe 60 minutes plus because that seems to be the theme of these Olympics

and they've got to find it. I love the photo too of

Quinn Hughes just looming over the crowd looking haunted.

I get sent that one to you too Chloe. I sent the I sent the every one too but

yeah Quinn Hughes getting the the OT winner

was we watch that here in the office after the show ended yesterday.

Bitnervy. Bitnervy with Sweden getting it to get it to OT.

But yeah like you said like Team USA they have to be

a team that you know gets to this point gets to the gets to the metal round you

know that's that's the that's the bare minimum that

Team USA and the hockey program both for the men's and women's side.

Bare minimum is you have to compete for medals. So

the women get the golds are they're the gold standard obviously with winning gold.

So now the men you know they've they've they've had the four nations a lot of

people were like oh you know this could be the time for them to show

that they're the you know the big hockey country now in Canada

stepped up when they needed to and now you know you get to the Olympic

games you're down to the final four. You got to get past

Slovakia you cannot overlook them just because they're not Canada.

They're going to be a top that's going to be a tough team and if you get if you

do get past them then you've got a plucky finish team with

table terivine and leading the way or Canada and the gold medal.

Yeah we're getting to the point now where the US women

anything less and gold feels like a failure and I would say I

don't think the men are quite there yet but I think anything less and silver

feels like a failure at this point for them. I mean they're going to say that

they want gold. Of course they're going to but I think just from a

you know a non-emotional perspective

there because look with the men's game Sweden is right there usually

like we said Finland's air and we're starting to see Czechia and Slovakia

starting to really make some noise but I feel like anything short of silver at

this point is is a disappointment. I'm not going to be mad if they win

bronze but I think everyone top to bottom will look at that as a failure by

the men. So got to got to win tomorrow, get through to the gold medal game and

see what happens. The counterpart actually was asked about Finland

today and so you didn't really have much you know didn't have much to offer

about it but I guess Nick Flino said he's written for Tevo over Canada

and Bernard said I want Canada to win and I want Turbo to have a hat trick.

Yeah so very diplomatic. Yeah all the guys I

all the guys I asked about that I said if it comes down to you know when I was

talking to Oliver Moore I was just like US or Finland and gold if it happens who

you're going for and they all of them were just like I hope Tevo has

four points and USA wins five before. Yeah well yeah you got the pictures.

This is my aunt's lawn in Evergreen Park. She's count. Oh nice.

Go Abby sign. A lot of people in the neighborhood have that sign. Very

cool. That's fun. And then we have the ghost

the haunted Quinn Hughes. Just at the women's. That's at the women's

days just moving over the crowd protecting everyone from the

specters that fly around. I love that he's like professor Snape. Yeah in the

first Harry Potter movie where he's just blank staring and saying the

the spell. Yes to count spoiler alert to counteract. Yeah.

He who shall not be named the actual one not the woman not the one from this show.

Yes. That's funny. Yeah. That's funny. Hey two two people who have had

two two OT winners for for the US in consecutive days.

Um I think I'm in good health because I haven't had a heart attack.

Yeah good. So good job. It's good. I'm probably due for one but

not hockey related hopefully. Um look we we made our predictions for

the Olympics last week which feels like a month ago.

Uh I picked USA to win based on gold tending. That's big.

And look we like to laugh at Jordan Bennington but the dude has a way of

and I don't want to we're maybe getting ahead of ourselves here. We don't

want to jinx anything but man when when something's on the line.

Jordan Bennington is a different dude. Yeah he steps up and he is

starting to squash that narrative. I mean look he's going to cause he's

want to go all the areas when the formation is filling his diaper for the

blues. That's okay. But yeah when when you put that

Canada sweater on um it seems like a lot of narratives go out the window when

you put that Canada sweater on because Mitch Marner is clutch is ever

weird. We're in the the red maple leaf. It's like Mitch Marner doesn't suck.

Not the white maple leaf. Um we're and yeah Bennington has been uh you

know he's he's been great for for Canada um when it matters most he hasn't

been you know indefatigable but he's been

thank you. Good enough. He's been he's been good enough uh for them so yes

like it like I said like they got a tough matchup with Finland but would be

favored USA as a tough matchup with Slovakia but should be

favored um and anything is uh is possible. I'm hopeful for the US

that they that they don't leave it to the final moments um you want to see

them have one of those games that you can kind of plant your flag and say like

you know have the confidence level be uh as high as possible going into

you know if you if you get that semi-final win in you know uh

comfortable fashion you can go into the gold medal game feeling pretty good

about yourself feeling confident and that's I feel like that's what it comes

down to when it's this this stage of the Olympics because you hear from

the the US team after the game uh yesterday and a couple of guys were

just like that's the most nervous I've ever been

in a hockey game like these are guys that have played for Stanley Cups

yeah and Ben and you know play off game sevens and stuff

but an elimination game at the Olympics they're saying is like that's the most

keyed up they've been so yeah if you can go into a game

feeling confident and feeling like you know you you have uh you know you have

that in you um that's gonna make a huge difference. It's like one game seven

it's one game for all the stakes and I think part of it too I would imagine for

these guys is I've never been in Olympia not yet anyway um

that you you head to Milan Cortina and you're like

overwhelmed by the scale of it and how many athletes there are in how

everyone around you whatever sport they're in is spent their entire life to

get to this point so everyone is keyed up and everyone's nervous and everyone

is on edge. Hyper competition everywhere like think about these guys

you know they're they're they're at the Olympics

they'll practice but after practice they might go watch the gold medal of the

biathlon right they might go watch you know skiing or whatever watch the

women's team like and and you're just everywhere you go is just

competition and I have to imagine being at the Olympics is hard to

relax. Oh yeah because you're just surrounded by it. Well that probably is

why part of the reason why Canada the men's team left the Olympic

village and said no no no we're we're gonna stay in a nice hotel away from

everything else it could be part of it. Probably smart I I would I would not

like that if I was an Olympic athlete I would want the full experience but I

understand yeah the logic behind it and yes they we kind of joked about

the extra curriculars air quotes that happened at the Olympics

but everyone is so freaking stressed out that you need to find a way to get

to release that and I think you all not only do you have the stress out

athletes you also have the ones that are done

that are in that like state of euphoria of I just competed the Olympics now I'm

just here to enjoy it. So you have two there's two kind of athlete there

there's a completely high strong nervous beyond belief

and people that are on cloud nine that they just had the experience of a life

time and that's that atmosphere has to be or they're intoxicated or they're

really sad right yeah yeah yeah exactly that also

exactly yeah it's been it's I swallow the Olympics

winter Olympics more than summer Olympics oh yeah 100% just because

I'm I'm a January birthday so I like the winter

I like snowboarding and ice hockey and all that stuff

and there's only so many different ways of running I can watch on TV

for the summer Olympics which is feels like it's 90% of the events is just like

run this distance jump over this thing um but yeah the I just

it's why I love the winter game is like you get the hockey and then you get

everything else around it it's just unique stuff so

um a good point by Frank hockey fan in the chat says you never know

if or when you'll ever get another Olympic chance yeah

athletes confront their mortality which is rare yeah it's a really good

point it's true you never know when your last shot's going to be and uh

just a reminder as we speak about how Hillary night you got the game tying

goal if you want to go see her in person

PWHL takeover tour comes to Rosemont on March 25th

Seattle New York Hillary night place for Seattle so get your tickets go see a

hockey legend in Rosemont uh it's a lot of fun also got to mention black

cocks development coach Kendall Collins Gofield another uh

throwing on the pile another Olympic gold for her uh her mantle

and her elite prospects page yep we should see if uh so come on

that'd be really great she plays for Minnesota and the PWHL uh

so maybe when there's seasons over we can try and be great uh we had her on

the manhouse podcast back in the day and she was wonderful

and then uh actually spent a few minutes after our interview

talking to my daughter that's cool who was a young athlete at the time so

very cool when uh when when Kendall was just out of

college at northeastern and plain for team USA uh

she did an appearance at uh girls in the game

summer camp back in the day and my wife uh basically ran the summer camp

and so she got to meet her this was like

wow man like 15 14 15 years ago already um but yeah that was uh

that was always cool to to be like yeah my wife met her

all that time ago so yeah all right we're gonna hit the break zone for the

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us uh... eventful day at hawks practice a little bit ryan to not oh

mispractice uh... white is baby yeah baby watches the way to put it

momentarily if it's not happened already but it had not happened

when jeth flash will spoke and jason diginson

left practice with a bit of a tummy ache

uh... which is understandable things are going around these days sure is why

don't we hear from the black hawks head coach who spoke after practice a lots

of stuff about the intensity of practice the mindset going in here

uh... some power play tweaks some talk about physicality in front of the net

and more here's jeth flash will have to practice today

so jickinson uh... just ill

okay yeah i don't know i don't know yeah i honestly haven't

uh... talked uh...

the trinkets out there's just was told he left the ice

stomach issue and it wasn't coming back

not if it said his wife's due day was soon

yeah yeah no one knows the report though

how much i i guess younger guys feeling of being physical in the league and i know

the last you can talk about that specifically but

i guess we've left enough rinzil how much you balance them

trying to

i guess

get out of the comfort zone a little bit and you know what what's needed this

level

yeah i think you know i think

i would say

if you look at our decors a whole

we have size um... you know i think we have big bodies

i wouldn't say that they're necessarily like natural like hard hard

you know guys necessarily and so we just want to draw to them

the max of their physicality and the max of their hardness because that's an

important aspect of uh... being a good d in this league and i think we're

we're getting i think you know certainly vlast has shown that

i think already shown that uh... uh...

louis you know you go through the list uh... especially those guys now

i think rinzil's different like rinzil doesn't have the body yet to go

physically head-to-head with a ton of guys in the league so he's gonna have to

do with his brain you know and and um

in in how you kind of separate hands and things like that so there's different

techniques that uh... you know that i think he has learned i think he's still

gonna put muscle into his frame uh... and he'll continue to get bigger

and stronger but he's not quite there yet so you know but for the guys that are

the bigger bodies we definitely want to draw out that that uh...

highest level not just have compete because i don't want it to sound like

they're not highly competitive i think they are but the physicality side of it

powerplay practicing the no drop entry and the two drop

entry isn't just to have different look steves in different situations

yeah i think that's important um you know we kind of went through the first

part of the year with with basically one look

and i would say you know for a long time it did pretty good but like what

happens even in games if you're if you're struggling with that

then there's frustration at sets and i think when that frustration sets in

it's important to have a different look both for the ability to get in and two

to kind of fight through the frustration

you guys you do see players seemingly frustrated with how that's

you don't need to want them more to kind of just care down and stick with the

system order would you rather than maybe even go

something fine and just say use your speed and try to split it up

yeah i think there's definitely times we've talked about

you know within within our kind of uh... uh you know on the pp within the drop

florida probably does this the best of there still should be a room option

so when you are getting frustrated you can still room it in or if you're not

getting the line of teams want to stand up really hard i mean

if you think about it if teams are going to stand hard at the blue line

it gets really difficult to get in with possession

but because they're standing so hard you should be able to get it on a rim or

even on an end wall player self chip and so you got to balance those two things

i think you're the only team with no six on five goals is that something you

might be able to practice during this stretch and all this time

yeah we'll we'll we'll practice it uh you know there's a lot that goes into that

but we're definitely gonna we're gonna try to touch all our bases here before

we play Nashville so yeah we'll practice it for sure

talk a lot this year about guys have been the mentality of not trying to

win every ship it's okay to

look to fight another day saw that in the us we can gain do you ever use like

that kind of stuff as examples knowing that all the guys are watching

for you know for sure i think you know coming out of the especially

you know that game because it's too you know as they get into the next game

and hopefully one more um those games get so and it's best on

best it reminds you of i mean it's like another level maybe but i'll play off

hockey and in playoff hockey you you know you can't afford uh to force

to have forced mistakes or you unforced errors um and it's the same when

you're playing best on best uh over there so you're seeing you know

you lead the lead guys uh when they have a chance they're they're trying to make

a playblem they aren't they're living another day and so we'll certainly use that

do you think of uh Dylan Larkin finally getting a chance to excel on a huge

stage with that bowl yesterday yeah i was pumped for him when i saw it uh Dylan

someday i talked to still a lot and uh a good friend of mine and uh friend of his

families and uh really pumped that he's had that opportunity and when he

scored uh i was i was right i was really excited for him yeah really excited for him

so tonight said that he was battling for illness his last few games before the

break hits and then he'd tell you that like he was saying that's

he wanted to test himself to see how he could do in this

yeah i mean um you know we i knew he wasn't feeling his

best you know that's not totally abnormal you know

ultimately when it comes to this illness for the most part

i mean there might be sometimes we rule the player up and generally the

player you know dictates whether he can go or can't go

and in his case he felt like he could still go and give us a hundred percent

even though you might not feel a hundred percent that's always kind of my rule is

if you can give us a hundred percent uh then you can play if you're going to

give us eighty percent then it's a coach's decision whether that eighty

percent's better than then you know what i mean and that's

that's just the way it goes so generally uh when that's the case we don't

do you know when you anticipate so much impact i do not i do not i've left him alone

going for today um so i'm not sure when he'll be back to be honest with you

uh you've got a number of young guys in your team who've never

navigated a massive break you know time off like this when he thinks it's

important as they go past the practice before diving back into the season

it's a it's a good question um i mean this is a massive break you know

honestly i haven't navigated this massive and you know you probably

haven't had this in search and so like i mean i was in the american league at

the time um it's uh it's an interesting kind of dilemma i think part of

it's on us uh uh work our way back into them uh you know we've tried it

you know we eased i'd say the yesterday's prize a little bit lighter

today's was a little bit harder tomorrow's will be a little harder and we'll

take it day off so there's a side of that from the coaching staff that we

have to do a good job we got to monitor it with our um you know our trainers

and our strength coach um then the other side from there and it's just

you know i think most guys it's probably some of that's already been done like

you got to keep yourself in good shape and you might not be on the ice every day

but you got to keep yourself in good shape it looks like our guys have done

that and then it's just matter kind of getting your focus back uh

you know to them tomorrow's practice will be a challenge it's your third one

you know the first practice back so it's always easy second one the third one

that row gets a little bit harder so we'll have to remind them that they

have to be dialed in tomorrow well you're uh watching young players

aside from on ice execution what are some of the things you could look

forward to see if a guy is struggling or if a guy's getting it like body language

or off ice is there anything you kind of keep an eye on in that regard?

um body language for sure you know you can you can you can feel when

you can really sense when guys' confidence is starting to to dip a little bit

in and and i don't think that's restrictive to young players i've you know

coach some of the best players in the world and they're their confidence

dips it's just reality it's reality if any athlete uh

whether they want to admit it or not and you can sense it with body language

for sure and we have to be cognizant of that you know we'll sit around our

our coaches room and uh and i probably got this from kube he does a good job

of this it's just okay who needs to get bumped today who needs to have a

you know just just communicate with them and see where they're at

and at least you get a chance to have an open

communication with them and um you know and uh so those are important

things and and there's probably times where when we know

their confidence is really low uh we lay off them a little bit of coaches uh

you know even when you're on somebody all the time uh you take

away their confidence there's a there's a fine balance between

accountability and confidence and i think that we got to ride that balance as a

coachy stuff

all right there's Jeff Lassel after practice today uh as we mentioned a lot of

focus on the power play through up on twitter uh

now you make them and now you need them again and through up on twitter

by through up on twitter two examples of what the hawks power play was doing uh

the second unit i don't know why i'm doing it this way the second unit went

grizzly carried it up the ice did not have this link shot option

it was just him and the four other skaters were ahead of him

and they took it up got in the zone very easily uh then the first unit

Baudard carried it out dropped it back they dropped it back again

and then Baudard got tripped to the blue line and slid into the zone um

so you're seeing a couple different looks and as Jeff Lassel said there

you've got to be able to have a second option

when the opponent is standing you up at the blue line

trying to just prevent you from entering

you've got to be able to win that foot race and have the rim around option

and that's clearly something they were working on today

yeah yeah and and they've they started doing a little bit of that right before

the break um and i don't think we really saw them

really reap many benefits of that but this week is

how Jeff Lassel is kind of structuring the practice

is like let's kind of if we're implementing any changes

any tweaks or anything like that let's do it now um

and you know we've been we've been talking about it through through the season

and as uh their power play effectiveness started to kind of

fall back they at one point this year they had a top 10 pk and power play

but the power play is kind of faded down to the it's getting close to the

bottom of the third of the league now um and a lot of that is due to the

zone entry uh problems that they've had

when they get in the zone they're a dangerous power play

more often than not um but getting in and setting up has been has been an issue

so i like that they are addressing that that they're working on other

ways to try and be effective use their speed uh if they're not using the

drop pass the user speed to be able to uh enter the zone go and chip and and

chase and and and win a win a puck race um

and i like how you know blush all kind of

laid it out when things aren't going to plan to their

their go-to entry system which is the you know having the two option drop

that you know if teams are setting up where

everyone is dead stop at the blue line which we have

said a lot on this podcast not just the season but over the years

whereas is if you have that like blue line um defense

wall basically to go through chip and use your speed you have more you have

nasar you've been dart you've borkoski's fast like use that use your speed to

that advantage so i like that they are acknowledging that working on that

and adding that to their power play system to not just be so one

dimensional and be easy to defend on their zone entry uh

process let's continue uh the conversation about what Jeff

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i saw that moment i said i've got to find a screenshot of that

that's pretty good and uh... so yeah that's that's very very cool uh... cool

moment for the twist uh... you know the the way as we talked earlier the

women's game it's more like the big dogs and everybody else uh... first

switcherland and win a to win a bronze is a huge achievement for them so

congrats them and elina mure for the over time winner talk about you know

all-time women's Olympic uh...

hockey players on the big stage like Hillary night

getting the goal for the u.s uh... today to force OT

elina mure one of the top uh... goal scorers in all of olympic hockey uh... for

her time um... she gets the winner for switcherland like that's awesome uh

speaking of uh... one will ask on the olympics every time you get a metal

you get the stuffed animals of tina and my low which are the i think your

weasels or stoats whatever they're called um...

every athlete gets one of those and as team canada was being handed their

stuffed animals the uh...

patients they showed and not tearing the heads off of them after losing that

game it over time to be like this is adorable

get it out of my face immediately i'm trying to remember

was it the olympics where uh... or maybe it was the world juniors

where a team won a bronze and the guy like threw his metal into the crowd juniors

yeah that was uh...

lea uh... lea sanderson i think with with sweeten

uh...

i think he was a rangers

prospect uh... and i believe he was captain of team yeah lea sanderson

yeah yeah that was they they lost uh... they i think they probably lost an

overtime or something and he he did that silver medal into the into the

stands hey man like you get to that point uh...

and you're you're that close to uh...

you know that glory on that stage especially the world juniors which i mean i

for hockey behind the olympics is the world juniors uh... as far as

intensity goes and i know other people might say uh... world championships i

will say which european country are you from uh... if you if you believe that is

second to the olympics but it's it's world juniors um... so yeah i'm i'm not

surprised that someone was that close and just at that point was just like yeah

i don't want this well we almost saw some uh... stotes

chucked into the crowd is this is uh... is a stote i should know that it is a

weasel like character is a stote like if you're watching now that you could

see their uh... uh... is a stote like a thing in italy

apparently the italian stote is a small agile carnivore

to the italian alps known for its seasonal coat change from brown to white which

acts as camouflage tina and my low are the uh... mammals that highlight the

impact or no are the mammals that are the winter olympic mascots and

highlight the impact of climate change on mountain ecosystems

oh interesting it is a very cute creature like uh... ferrets

yeah interesting well i learned something today

there you go i did not know the olympic mascot um...

but there you go that's there is now you know my my low and tina

you come to chtl and you learn stuff and do we have it this number one podcast

for uh... for stote alien stote information

you was an italian mario should know i should have known that you have nine

stotes in your back there at least uh... there's a look at the

stotes dropping that's a real stote that is very cute that uh... i imagine that

is the after the coat change from brown to white

very durable and my low is the stuff that's tina the stuffy for the uh... olympics

in the paralympics is my low oh who is missing uh... my wife told me my wife

knows all about this stuff my low was born without a paw but his tail helps

him out is what i'm told okay so the paralympians will receive my low

that's very cool i had said that's interesting that's a good touch

yes i touched there all right back to jeth lashel because i know everyone's

chomping in the back to the stotes in a while or stote

don't worry spasored by old man you stote heads um

the question about physicality it keeps coming up it sounds like it's something

scop powers is working on so keep an eye out for that

at some point you just have to do it

right and he and he mentioned sammer and zellie well you know sam

he's big but he's not overly strong so he's got to use his brain

look man how tall is sammer and zell six four six four

spree tall push somebody getting somebody's way

you guys as i said the other day developing a mean streak is part of

developing your hockey game you cannot be and i'm again and and and

brush one out of his way to say this to it's not like they're not competitive

it's not like they don't want to win but a lot of these guys don't have it in

their dna to be a net clearing

hardass right hmm you've got to find it someone has to find it

and it is one hundred percent a matter of willingness

you can't tell me we see Alex Vlasik every day that is a giant human being

a guy and he is not a string mean by any means six foot six if Alex Vlasik wanted

to push somebody out of the crease there's maybe a handful of guys in the

league if that could resist against what he would want to do

yeah you'd imagine yeah it is a matter of look you've seen

Brian Campbell lay people out that hit on RJ umberger

is terrifying but it's a massive hit you saw guys like Dino Cicarelli

who is what five eight yeah maybe living in front of the net yeah

it is an era but yeah sure but it was a more physical era where guys were

taking sticking you between the legs and even goalies like any bow for

we're pulking it you in the crease it's easier to be in the crease now than

it's ever been you're not taking the constant abuse you used to it might be

one big hit you know per shift or whatever you get away with less yeah now I

just it just has to be the puck has dropped

I am hitting the switch to be a bit of a jerk on the ice and when the games are

we'll go back to being this really nice guy and this really sweet guy

cool you've got to find that that's that is having a competitive edge and I'm

not saying you have to go from lady Bing to all time

telling that it's leader but you just have to find somewhere in your

reverse competitive spirit like we've seen all these guys

get pissed after a big hit or get pissed when you know the goalie gets run

they find it then it's got to be the mindset all the time

you've got to learn it if you're not born with it and we've talked about this

before too with big defenseman Alex Vlasik etc. San Mrenzel

they've always been so much bigger than ever when they're playing against

they haven't had to play a physical game because guys would just bounce off of

them now that the playing field has been leveled

sides and strength wise they've got to adapt that into their game

and they all can do it it is a willingness it is a

intentional adoption of that mindset

yeah I think that is something that you

it's it's it I will say it is hard to quote unquote teach that

and that's why a lot of people say like either you have it or you don't when it

comes to that edge to your game because it's it's hard to

you know go out in the ice and be like okay kid here I'm going to teach you how

get away with this and you know here you stick check them here and

put your you know cross check them there and elbow like you're not going to

teach that it's it's just that that style of play

that um like some guys just just happen and I think of like

dunking Keith not an overly big guy not physically

imposing so to say in in in his career when he was here on the set I was like

I was like thinking like man this guy's not that much bigger than I am

no he's not big but one of the toughest guys out there one of the

and and of a physical player and he was not as big or as heavy as

classic and crevier are physically um but just a different breed of

of player and I think you know it could be a reason why uh Kyle

Davidson when he got in the the draft we mentioned

Ashton Kumbi yesterday that's a defenseman that is

kind of thought of a little bit in the vein of a enforcer style type player

where the edge and the physicality is their their biggest attribute in the

game but you get a defenseman like that in the system

and that's somebody of the future that you're that you're looking at is

like well maybe the the pure skill isn't

you know there yet but at least that edge factor

that that physical style uh that nassiness in the game

is there and and that could be something that he focuses on um

you know through the draft in the future um could be somebody

style of players that he targets if and when he dips into free agency or

the trade market like it could be something that we we see this team uh

need down down the road because a lot of these guys like a lot of the the

drafted players defenseman to uh as we as we're talking about it like a lot of

speed a lot of skill very few guys are like

power players you got doc likes to hit

you've got yeah frondelle who's big and at the juniors level and and and in

Sweden has shown kind of power forward tendencies

you've got bovair who is thought of as a more power

forward style player we saw him likes to punch people fight fight fight guys

in college um but yeah it's just they don't really have an abundance of that

and obviously when you get to the playoff time and when the black hawks

eventually this group eventually gets to that stage

you need players like that you need guys that

you know maybe you don't think oh this is a gritty player a tough player

but then you got you know yani gourds out there who are 5 9 180 pounds or

whatever but our pains in the butt to play yeah i mean brain and havels a

great example yeah you know and shaw was not a big guy

but people hated playing that's what it's it's got less to do with size it's

got more to do with willingness and before he hit the breakzone we got to

keep an eye on this too you're close to moving counter Murphy

you're close to moving Jason Dickinson to your more willing physical forward

or physical players yeah next year you're going to be probably without

Nick Felino I would imagine probably you're going to have to find an

answer for this and look i'm not saying they need to get enforcer

those days are over i think there's probably two like maybe three official

enforcers in the NHL Rempi Reeves and Olivia but Olivia can play

like i think even i'll say like i think Ryan Reeves has more skills than he

gets credit for too maybe not at this point in his career was the 37 or

whatever yeah but the guy could play back in the day a little bit

you just don't have your old like all i do is

fight kind of guys anymore right but you've got to you've got to supplement all

the skill which is in fairness to david's and the hardest thing to get is to

find the high skill you can go find a guy they can fun people you can find

that right but it's going to be time to find it and be john points out in the

chat San Josevoi and maybe he gets an opportunity

after the trade deadline i don't know i just i'm just don't know where the spot

is for him and they've got San Laffer do you plays that way yeah

but he doesn't ever plays he's got a future here i don't know not at all

uh another young guy i want to mention i was also

spellicy yeah has that to his game um but be john brings up

Logan Stanley uh defenseman from the jets who is

uh coming for agent we're talking about you know defensive spots being open

and these guys coming up to try and take him and do you have an

all under 25 defensive core next year maybe um

but that could be someone who you're not saying Logan Stanley is going to be

a big difference maker but if you're looking to say we need some

size and physicality i mean that could be a depth uh you know a depth

route that you uh that you go it'll be 28 and may uh left shot defenseman

left side i don't i certainly don't hate that i mean

i don't know there's just so many there's so many young players you want to

give a look to um you know and if you're ever going to have a court

chance here don't master up here

hmm when right that he also i'm not against it but

anyway we'll see we'll see if we'll see if the offseason brings but six seven two

thirty one i'm down for that all right let's hit the break zone

one last time we come back a little more uh Jeff Flashle had some stuff to say

about uh watching players and their confidence

uh as the season goes on i thought it was interesting that's next on CHGO Blackhawks

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drive. All right we're back for the final segment on CHG

of a quick question yes do you want to pull our money and buy red robin

gourmet burgers incorporated valued at just about $60 million yeah the entire

thing you want to do it yeah Chloe's got that family inheritance that's true from

yeah I just I just saw that that red robin is a valuation has gone down 90%

and their entire company is valued at about 60 million we could afford that as the host

of the MFA podcast I have thoughts on this and I know why red robin failed shredded lettuce

on a burger get your slime off my burger if you're going to put lettuce on my burger

I want it to be a nice leaf mm-hmm or a couple wedges do not shred lettuce and put it on my

hot food unless it's a taco or a mcchicken no it gets slimy and disgusting no shredded lettuce

and it sunk the business and I'll say this their fries goaded not rush more of fries I think

if you're gonna if you're gonna sink the business it's the bottomless fries that could be it too

but the unlimited soup and breadsticks has worked out for olive garden well when you're there

your family you've never been there never been I've never been on I've not that's it we're going

to and I got chained yesterday and the podcast that I never had hamburger helper okay I've never

had hamburger I didn't know what it was I'm like why isn't meat in a box I turned out it's not

meat that's funny because I just said it's the helper to the hamburger you you have to buy the hamburger

you provide the hamburger well then it helps you yeah I've never been to Olive Garden that's

it we're going to rockford we're going we're going to the Olive Garden I don't really I

I will say like I don't I'm not like I would never because nothing bothers me more than the people

like why would you get Taco Bell when you live in Chicago with the greatest I don't have a taste

for Mexican I have a taste for Taco Bell it's different it is different and I and I think

out of garden it's like well you can go to Taylor Street yes I know I have nothing against eating

Olive Garden it just hasn't come up it's so good and and Olive Garden meal deal when you are

in college I'm best Italian food you'll ever have I have I have no I'm honestly I have nothing

against the idea of Olive Garden I fine do you I'm not trying to yuck anybody's yum except with

shredded lettuce um but I would I would eat there it just hasn't the opportunities I presented I

think I think I think what's hurting Olive Garden is like there's they actually do have some

like competition for the like fast food Italian like Magiana's is pretty decent

um but like yeah I mean it's you're if you're gonna say like I want good Italian food actual good

Italian food there's lots of options but there are times when you're just like I want a soup

I want a salad and I want some salty buttery breadsticks and I have eight dollars in my pocket

I know exactly where I'm going so what's the meal deal well just I mean they just oh you're saying

it's I'm just if they have lots of inexpensive deals on never-ending pasta sure it's a great thing

like no no three words could be said in in in sequence better in my mind than never ending pasta that

I mean I'm pretty sure it's endless soup salad and breadsticks for like $10 and they're probably

still making your profit oh for sure because you're getting full on all that stuff right and the soup

the chicken yoke soup so again sounds great what is the authentic Italian scene in Colorado

there's none existed okay all right it's like it's all of good like what is the like in Chicago you

did I mean Chicago you can get authentic pretty much anything but you would say probably Italian

and Mexican and Chicago would be like the world class on that level what is what is that cuisine

in Denver nothing nothing only thing that yeah we the only thing that Denver is known for is green

chili okay green chili yeah that's like their thing chilies okay plural not the chili chili not

the chain restaurant chilies not chilies but yeah chilies chillies chillies chillies burritos and

chili I don't know talk about meal deals you can get like three meals worth of food for 20 bucks

actually yeah that's a great deal I keep telling my wife we're going to chillies to take advantage of

this deal you're talking about the triple dipper yes yeah amazing and and she's just like three

meals after that there's so much food you want to save money I like I like I genuinely enjoy

chilies also you mentioned maziano's I don't know if they're still doing this this was like a year

after covid so made her trying to rebound a little bit because people aren't going out to eat as

much we went there for new years of 24 and whatever you ordered they gave you another one to go oh so

it's awesome in the lasagna and maziano is weighs like 75 pounds it is a brick yes of lasagna and

they're like all right here's your to go back of the same exact stuff you ordered to go brick yeah

it's like what and we oh my god it was amazing that's and that's the deal and when I was it's

funny you talking about this because today is my the 24th dating anniversary for me and my wife

and maziano's was our first date because when you're in your 20s and you're poor and you work at

the score yeah chain rush there is nothing fancier than maziano's oh yeah that is five stars if

you really like somebody you taking a maziano's and you seal the deal yeah my here we are 24

years later my my wife and I is first yeah unofficial date because I don't think she considers it a

date but I did we went to famous Dave's barbecue yes which is no longer there where we went but

uh yeah chain restaurants man like the the there's a stretch of of Kenosha where I'm originally from

I know it well on highway 50 slash 75th Street by the woodmins yes love woodmins right off the

highway off woodmins it since when I was in high school it was like that's like the Apple

Bees the Chili's Buffle Wild Wings it's all over that you know hooters it's all over that that

stretch the best and in the last couple of weeks like you know when I'll I'll try drive home see

my parents and stuff I'll go down that stretch and it's literally it's like all those ones I

named but now it's also Bonobief and Rainbow Cone it's five guys it's Mod Pizza it's

um Chatters it's gosh what else is down that like literally every chain Chipotle's everywhere

Chick-fil-A like every chain restaurant that you could imagine is down that stretch of of road

it's insane and every time I drive there I'm just like man what is the attraction of this and

then I also say I want to eat there I want to eat there I want to eat there like it's it's crazy

that was always our so we used to go see every summer we'd see Dave Matthews band at Alpine Valley

and we would do both shows so we would always drive up to Kenosha stop a woodmins get all the

stuff to grill like you know so that was tradition but yeah over the years my cousin had a

autometry officer for a while and I would go see her because it was free um so it was great like

it was there everything you need is right there for sure by the way our majiano's date our first

date they put us in this at this table where we had to sit directly next to each other

and we were like it wasn't it wasn't a cross we called it the wedding table so it's for me side-by-side

and we were also on a stage we were like presiding over the crowd oh my god that's funny

fortunately we had been going to Hawks games together for like a year and a half before we became

official yeah and I remember my wife asked me out yes that's what happens because I am

afraid of rejection during the Olympics while we are watching the Olympics together on the phone

this is what happened back in the day Chloe um and she's like so like what are we like I think we're

dating now is it same here my my my wife and I can't do rejection we uh we were hanging out

through uh you know in our in our high school days and we so we met originally on stage crew of

the the spring musical which was cats which me and my buddies we were like hey we're seniors in

high school we've let's try and do stuff that we haven't done in high school before we're like let's

go out for the spring musical it was Oklahoma perfect I can be a cowboy that's fine they changed it

to cats and I said I'm not wearing that one piece spandex suit in front of god and everybody

we keep telling you to stop wearing it to the office yeah well you know hold have it's die hard um so

I said okay well I guess I had another friend who was on stage crew I was like I'll do stage crew

ended up meeting my future wife which was great for probably four weeks four to five weeks

we were uh inseparable kind of acting as boyfriend and girlfriend yeah making out all the time

nice that's how it goes usually and uh we're gonna go to overtime by the way

so I did not mean for my red robin uh mentioned to completely do the fine time here for a change

at this time of year I was thinking of the people that are on fast channel that it just ended with

like making making out all the time and then you just had more reason to find us um

so then yeah we uh one one day we were leaving uh stage crew and uh she was just like so we like

dating and I was I was like uh yeah yeah I was gonna get around uh get around it was on my list of

things to do um but yeah it was and it was just because like I was just I was like I want to ask her out

but but I was just like I was like what if we just start dating without me asking her out then

she would have and then then then I avoid the chance to be told no right and and and get rejected

that's it but that you know it worked out we're we're still together half of our lives later and

uh one kid and one on the way uh from what I understand my daughter does occasional theater

productions if you are a young man looking to meet women theater is the place to go

just it's a numbers game it's a numbers game a hundred percent that in cheerleading yeah for sure

Chloe how did you meet your partner oh what do you have to do this to me I've tried to help

do you want to put like your tinder profile on the screen or no scan this QR we have a bunch of

really normal people in the chat that would be your just thrilled to take you to Olive Garden oh man

you know what I would love that actually see okay here's what I was gonna say okay this is I was

trying to think of what Colorado's known for Chipotle started in Colorado it did so did noodles

in company oh okay nice we thank them for one of those actually noodles is fine we went to the

one in champagne when it was totally fine and he was at ISYM at U of I for uh orchestra this is the

violin mechanic I'm doing mac and cheese pad tie and like a uh I think hope got like a rabbi only

$50 yeah it is like in champagne it is like $15 a dish that's yeah insane what's tough that's

insane I'm never going back on principle unless they start advertising here in which noodles

in company baby hey then we better noodles with better company you you mentioned the pad tie I

can eat that there oh nice it's rice noodles I found that out because I was I was out and about

running some errands this was a few like two years ago I think with my daughter I didn't have a

snack with me in the car that was a rookie mistake and she's like I'm hungry and I was like I

have a snack and we also have these other three places we need to go so tough it out kid she's two

years old at this time and I'm like okay uh where can I stop and I stop at noodles because I'm like

I can get her a bowl of mac and cheese she'll be the happiest kid ever so I did did that and then

I realized looking at their menu I'm like hey rice noodles I can eat here too so we had a nice

little meal together uh so yeah good to know that noodles is a glue has a gluten free option that

was at ease favorite before she discovered nandos and nandos is her absolute favorite

and it was good I forgot to mention that Colorado is home to Casabanita is that a chain

Casabanita what's Casabanita you never seen South Park yeah South Park yeah I wasn't making

their reference but like when I was a kid every one of my birthdays was it Casabanita it's like

it sounds like a magical place it's like you think it's the most magical place in your kid

and you go there and so don't you're like what the hell yeah yeah um like cliff divers were there

they had like um you could take old-timey pictures they had a little sounds awesome like haunted

cave and stuff like that and it's like the worst Mexican food you've ever had in your life

hey what's saying there's like Casabanita and Naperville no it's not the same thing

this is they can't be the same they can't be the same I mean Casabanita is a pretty

generic beautiful home pretty generic name for a place but Spanish lessons the Casabanita

in Colorado is infamous I could know just like the airport yes all right hey guess what everybody

do we want to do we want to get to that point about Jeff no no you were going to make okay it's

in the feed you guys can listen to Jeff Lashel we'll talk about it tomorrow if it's anywhere

anymore stote trivia you want to get to know more stote information I am fresh out

we're going to be back tomorrow with more red hot hockey analysis just like tomorrow yeah we're

going to do a 5 p.m we actually will be down to business tomorrow 5 p.m we're delaying the show

because we're doing a metal round preview we'll know the matchups by then we'll talk about it

so we'll see you tomorrow at five right here on the CHGO Blackhawks podcast