Chiropractic care plays broader role in nervous system & body’s ability to function optimally

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Welcome to the nurses report on America Out Loud

I'm your host Ashley Caputo, registered nurse

And functional medicine practitioner

This show is about asking bigger questions

About modern healthcare, exploring integrative

And root cause approaches

To help and helping people

Better understand how their bodies actually work

Each week we bring conversations that look at health

From a broader perspective

Because real wellness doesn't come from a single pill

Or quick fix

Things from understanding the systems of the body

And the many factors that influence our health

Today we're going to talk about something that often gets overlooked

When people think about wellness

And that's the role of the nervous system

And the spine in overall health

Many people think chiropractic care is only for back pain or injuries

But chiropractic care is really centered around the nervous system

The communication system of the body

That connects the brain with every organ, gland, and every tissue

When the nervous system is functioning well

The body has a much greater ability to adapt to stress, regulate hormones

And support immune function and maintain balance

But modern life places an enormous amount of stress on the body

Physically, chemically, and emotionally

Today we're going to explore how those stressors affect the body

And what people can do to support their health more naturally

Joining me today is Dr. Hillary Webb

Dr. Hillary Webb is a chiropractor, business owner, and a mom

Who's passionate about raising healthy families

And asking bigger questions about modern health

She loves helping people understand the power of the nervous system

Living more naturally and encouraging parents to trust their instincts

When it comes to their children's well-being

She practices at remedy chiropractic and is the owner with her husband

In Fayetteville, Georgia

Dr. Webb, welcome to the nurses' report

Thanks for having me, Ashley

I'm so excited, you're here

I wanted to just kind of start off by asking you

Maybe to tell us a little bit about what got you interested in becoming a chiropractor

And just a little bit about yourself and your practice

It's an interesting story actually

My mom, she was an Aryan, registered nurse

And she always just told both my mom and my dad were like

You and your sister need to be a doctor, so you need to be a doctor, you need to be a doctor

Well, to her, that meant medical doctor

That meant going to med school, white coat, all of that jazz

When I was seven years old, I was hospitalized for a severe bladder and kidney infection

Left me in the hospital on Christmas morning at seven years old

And I was in there for about two and a half weeks

It was awful

So at seven, it had already been embedded in my brain, be a doctor, be a doctor, be a doctor

But when I went there, I was like, I don't want anything to do with this

I don't want anything to do with this

I was stabbed multiple times with needles, poked prodded, everything

And I was like, I want nothing to do with this

Okay, fast forward

I'll tell you that four years later, we were in a car accident

My first ever car accident

And my mom took me to the local chiropractor

And I walked out giggling, I was like, this is awesome

This is the doctor that I want to be

And so from 11 years old, I decided that I wanted to be a chiropractor

And over the years, my family, a lot of people were like, oh, you'll change your mind

You'll change your mind, blah blah blah blah blah blah

Well, here I am

Over 15 years later, how old am I?

I'm 33 now

And I graduated when I was 25

I went to undergrad, got my bachelor's in biology

And then went straight to car practice school, graduated in 2018

And now here I am, seven years later, practicing, loving it, obsessed with it

That's awesome

I think for a lot of people, there's that moment growing up or whatever

That it just clicks and you become interested or fascinated in something

So that's awesome

And I get it, I worked in the hospital

It's needed, there's a time and a place for a hospital

But it is not usually a good experience

I'm always happy when my patients are like, considering that I was in the hospital

It's actually a pretty good experience

Because I'm like, okay, that's a win for the medical community

Because it's really traumatic, especially for a little girl and then to miss Christmas

Oh my gosh

Yes, oh my god, that was awful

I would never create that

Yeah, yeah

Did you get any pushback wanting, you know, going to be a chiropractor?

Were they like, no, go be a, I hear this a lot, like go be a real doctor

Like a real doctor

Yes, yes

I'll see that still today, people who I'm not a real doctor

Right

But to me that just is like, well, so is your dentist a real doctor?

You know, is your, what about your physical therapist?

Are they a real doctor?

Like, what, what do you mean by that?

Yeah

Like my sister has her PhD, is she not a real doctor?

I mean like

Right

That's like the most prestigious degree that you can get is a PhD

And is she a real doctor?

I don't know, people are crazy

But no, I didn't get any pushback from my parents

Oh, that's good

That's good

My dad was all about it, he was like, you can own your own business, you can have your own autonomy

Like, it is incredible

And it's sad to see these days how little autonomy real doctors

Yes

Have with their patients

Because of insurance, because of like all kinds of stuff like that

So like, I'm glad that I'm a chiropractor

I'm, I love chiropractic

And I'm glad that I can, I have my own autonomy

And I can do, I don't let insurance control what I do with my patients

Yeah

We're seeing that a lot too

Across the board, a lot of providers are not taking insurance anymore

And they're providing like concierge services

You know, I'm doing functional medicine

And that's taking off

People are becoming more interested in that

And that's outside of the insurance system

Because your hands are tied

And it's like you're dictated to you how you're going to treat your patients

And I saw that amplified during COVID

Because we had protocols in the hospital

And it was like you didn't veer from the protocol

There was no autonomy

Yeah

And I did get to see that firsthand

Like having my daughter versus having my son

So I had my daughter in the hospital

Induction, epidural, all that stuff

And it felt like I was not being taken care of

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah

And I had a home birth with my son

And it was incredible

I felt like, you know, everything was about me

And making me happy, making me comfortable

About him too, but like about me

And that was special

Oh, that's awesome

I tried for a home birth

Well, my first baby I was going to do a birthing center

And then I guess in Florida

The regulation, like once you go past 42 weeks

And so many days, like you can no longer

Get birth at the birthing center

So I had to go to the hospital

Like you said, it was a lot of gas lighting

And he's too big, you'll never be able to have him naturally

This could be an emergency if you don't, you know, have him right now

And so I kind of got, I feel looking back

I feel like I got a little bullied into a C-section

Yeah

And then that affected my next birth

And because no one, no provider wanted to support me with a V-back

So I turned outside the system and I found a home birth midwife

And it was going to be amazing, you know

But then I have stubborn children

And they like to just stay and like they don't want to come out

So I went past 42 weeks with him

Water broke

And then 24 hours later, I still wasn't an active labor

So she felt safest if I went to the hospital

Which I appreciate, you know

I love that

Yeah, I asked my midwife, I was like, I was like, okay

I want you to tell me all the things

Like when do we go to the hospital?

And she was like, we have X, Y, Z

If any of these things happen, then we do this

And if that doesn't work, we go

Like, and I'm like, okay, that's fine

You know, because I weren't going to go in, I didn't want to go in blind

And be like, you know, but I also didn't want, I wanted a fair shot

I wanted a fair shot at home and I got it

That's how, yeah, that's how I felt

And once I got to the hospital, the doctor said, you know, she was like, well

If you want to see your baby die, then I guess we can try for an induction

But, you know, he could end up floating in your abdomen

Talking about like a ruptured uterus

Which I know is a risk, but it's really low risk

And just because I had had a C-section before

So there was a lot of like fear tactics

I mean, crazy way, the way they talked to people

So I did end up with a second C-section

And man, 24 hours later, I signed myself out of that hospital

I felt safer at home than being there

And it's just, it's so sad and unfortunate that

You can't be supported in what you want

Right

That's a big thing that every patient that comes

Also, like, on the Webster Certified

So, sort of treating pregnant women

Yeah

And so, I ask all of my patients

Like, if they come in and they've had a prior C-section, I'm like, you going for a be-back?

We doing that

So they're like that

I got scared, and I'm like, well, I'm scared

Like, don't let nobody scare you

Into doing something that like, if you want to deliver vaginally

Do it

Yeah

Because C-sections don't come without risk

You know, they're pushed like it's the safer option

But I actually had a girl I worked with that had a C-section

She lost a lot of blood and ended up

She had, was in the ICU blood transfusions

I think she got a blood clot and a leg

And I mean, she didn't even get to hold her baby for months after she had him

And they did a C-section because she wasn't progressing fast enough

Right

That was the only complication baby and mom were doing fine

And that C-section, no, there are times C-sections are totally appropriate

So I want to put that out there

Again, there's a time and a place

That's what I love about chiropractic care too

Is that, you know, you can help guide people

And support their decisions

Even if you're not delivering the baby

But you can guide mom through pregnancy, supporter through pregnancy

You guys help get that baby in position, that's for sure

Yeah, that's how I got my baby head down

It can decrease labor times

Yes

And then I have a patient currently

She's about to give birth in the next few weeks

And she was like, mom, my baby's like head up

And I'm like, it's nothing to worry about right now

I ain't worried about it, don't worry about it, it's fine

I don't care what they tell you, it's fine

Yeah

I'm like, we're don't worry about that until X, Y, Z

And then we change what we're doing, you know

So there's always like things that you can do to

Yes

But yeah, I always tell my patients, I'm like, hey, just don't let them scare you

And to do anything that you don't want to do

It's up to you, you're the boss

You are the boss of your delivery

Yeah

You have to say, your voice is important

And they're like, okay, yeah, I mean, they make it sound like I don't have a choice

And I'm like, you do, I promise

Yeah, and if you don't have that encouragement and knowledge beforehand

It's easier to get kind of pushed into doing something that you might not have really wanted to do

And that's having an advocate

Someone like you, family, friend, you know, hiring an adula

You know, like somebody that can be there with you to support you

And help you make those decisions is so important because it's intimidating

It really is because I experienced it first hand

Like I was going to go in and I was like, oh, I'm not going to get an epidural

I'm not going to do this, love of the, I don't want, I want to be able to walk around

No, it just escalated, bullied me into bullying that's stronger, but whatever

But that's kind of how it feels

Yeah, it felt really pressured to do all of this

I didn't want to do, but it was also just like to me

I don't work well in that environment and wouldn't be doing that

And so it was just like, okay, okay, okay, you know, so

And I mean, I'll say anybody out there that's pregnant, please go see your chiropractor

Because it really does help

I made the mistake with my first pregnancy, I didn't start seeing a chiropractor until towards the end

And I was like, what was I thinking?

Because it, in my back, it just took so much pressure off of my back

It helped position the baby a little bit better

And so my second pregnancy is the day I found out I was pregnant

I was like, okay, I have to go see my chiropractor now

You know, because it was just, it's just, it's helpful

It makes you feel good and it just eases

Like you said, labor pains and stuff too, so that's awesome

And the Webster certification, that's something women should look for

When...

No, granted, like my husband, he is at our practice more than I am right now

Because I have two small children

And so I have, obviously, he took care of me while I was pregnant

I taught him everything I know

So like there are chiropraters that can know stuff

Like he is an exception for sure

But I specifically looked for someone who was Webster certified if I was pregnant

And I did not have

And that too, like if you haven't been seen a chiropractor

So you don't have that relationship with them

But that's one thing you can kind of look for to help guide you

And finding the right practitioner if you're pregnant

Right, sure

Yeah

And so the Webster maneuver that helps get the baby in the right position

It balances the pelvis and the sacrum

So that the baby has more room

Because we cannot say we don't say, oh, I'm going to, I can flip your baby

Like I'm not...

Right, right

We put the body in the optimal position to run for your baby to flip

Um, and that...

So after I had my baby, I went...

It was probably months down the road

I went back to the chiropractor

And I was like, um, can you guys do that thing that you do when I'm pregnant

With the hips and the...

You know, I didn't really know what to say

But I was like, my hips need to do that again

Because it felt so good

And then, you know, and everything gets so tight around your hips

And even not being pregnant, you know, just everyday life

This really good, like, hip stretch on my pregnant patients

And they're like, oh my gosh, that feels so amazing

And I'm like, well, bring your husband in here

I'll show him how to do it

Oh, let me...

I'm going to sign my husband up for that

Let's give him in on this...

Yeah

Need this more than you can come see me, you know

So, yeah, I recruit the husbands, I'll recruit friends, whoever, to help

Yeah, that's, you know, that's one thing that I'd love to about chiropractors

It's like, you don't just go into the office and they do their things

Snap, you know, snap crackle pop and then you leave

It's like a whole thing, you know

It's a whole body approach which I love

And you provide valuable information to the patients

To be able to go home and continue to improve their health

You know, do this stretch, do this exercise

Have you talked about, like, diet?

You know, it's a...

It's not a...

I think in traditional medicine, a lot of the times we see doctors are very tunnel visioned

And it's just the one thing that they're looking at

It's your labs, it's your heart, it's your kidneys

But it's rarely like a full body approach

And I think that's really missing the mark for people

And if somebody comes to me and they want labs, like I can order labs

Like whatever

But yeah, you would be so amazed at the stuff that like

We, I don't want to say fix, but like, help patients with

This, like, stuff that you would not normally think

Like, we had a patient come in and she had had acid reflux, gourd, stomach issues

For years, I mean, like 15 plus years

And she's like, I don't know what started it

Like this blah blah blah blah, I've been dealing with this

It's awful, like, I can barely eat, like, bad

And like, she was in works with like a gastroenterologist

That was like, talking about like, removing things

And that was scaring her

We adjusted her stomach

Which is something that like, a lot of people don't...

Well, a lot of firefighters, I guess, don't do, but like, we do

And off of her anti-assets,

Completely off of them

That's awesome

All her surgeries, all her, like, she's like

Yeah, I mean, why not go for the least invasive approach

Right

And save the surgeries, you know, for kind of a last resort

Which is what you're taught

You know, when you're learning medicine, you always go for the least invasive

You know, you give, you only prescribe medication if they need it

And you do the least dose possible

And you try alternatives

But I think sometimes it's... people don't know

And are close-minded to these alternative approaches

I mean, because I use a whole protocol for like acid reflux

And stuff, and now that I know, I'm gonna tell my clients to go to the pyropractor

But we start, it's crazy because a lot of the medications really upset the acid balance in your stomach

And so then you have to keep taking the medication, but it's actually making the problem worse

And so we can help people get off of medications and correct their gird by correcting the pH and acid balance in their stomach

And it's not really well recognized

If you go to your traditional doctor, they're gonna prescribe you an anacid

And these things, long-term, have some really severe side effects

For sure

They don't really talk about either

They're like, hey, it's your problem right now, this will fix it

But you don't think about, oh, I've been on this for 15 years

And now I have a soft gel cancer, it's like some bizarre, you know

Yeah, no, that, and you know, for women, it's really bad, because some of those medications cause like bone loss

So then you're at higher risk for bone fractures and things like that

And these aren't things that you talked about and to think that you could just go to your pyropractor

And it might not always...

I always tell every patient anything that we do specifically for something

I always do my like, my routine, my whole body, like little reset on people

But like, if I do something different, I'm like, hey, we can try this

Yeah

See what happens, you know, like, I'm not, I never am like, oh, this is gonna fix you

This is gonna cure all your problem

No, like, it's definitely like a trial and error thing

Like, yeah, for sure

And there's not much downside, you know, when you talk about risk versus benefit

It's like, okay, if we try these things from a holistic alternative approach

The downside is...

Is that...

Is that...

Yeah, your time, I mean, there's not...

When you talk about like, well, we're gonna do surgery

There's a risk versus benefit there, you know, in a big risk

Yeah

So, yeah, no, that's...

I had no idea you could adjust the stomach

But it makes sense because I've seen people's X-rays and...

Yes!

And it's not always where it should be

I was a little more into the like...

Ooh!

Carp practice

Yeah

Which is something about us

I think, what do they call it, woo-woo now?

Yeah, that's the little term that they use

It was a carp practice world

But I'm what they call a mixer

So there are like, straight carp practice and mixers

And straight carp practice, like, they pick one technique

And they stick to it

And it works, it all works

Like, I love all carp practice

No matter what kind of carp practice it is

But I'm a mixer

I went in and I was like, you know, we had to take all these different techniques

Like for classes

And I'm like, well, I like that one from that

So I'm gonna take that

And I like that from that

So I'm gonna take that out

And I blend them together

No, that's...

I think that makes you a really good doctor

Yeah

Because...

And things change

And then there's new approaches that are, you know, that you might learn about

I mean, in medicine, no matter how you're practicing

Like you're always learning something

Right

Everything's changing and you have to kind of change with the tide

And I think there's a lot of doctors out there that do chiropractors too

You know, that they're stuck in their ways

And if that method doesn't work for that patient

You have to be open to try and something different

That's what I'm saying

So like with these...

With these some chiropractors that I know

They use this particular technique

Which is really just pretty heavy handed, pretty rough

Yeah, no

If somebody comes in and they say, hey, I don't want you to crack my neck

What are you gonna do?

What are you gonna do?

Yeah

I'm gonna, like, address the issues that are going on in their neck

No

Well, I'm gonna do something different

Okay, we're gonna do it

I'm gonna adjust your neck, but we're not gonna do it that way

Yeah

Yeah

I used to be that client

I would let the chiropractor adjust my neck

But after I saw you three or four times

Like I needed to feel comfortable

Otherwise, I would like tense up

And it would make the whole thing harder anyway

And I have seen patients like that

And I'm like, it's okay, I was like, let's build some trust

And then I got you, like, is that cool?

Yeah, it doesn't offend me

And after it's done, you're like, oh, why have I not been doing?

Right, right

But my mom, she was living in, she lived here in Georgia

And then she moved to Missouri for a while

And she would fly home

Now, she couldn't do it all the time

She'd fly home to see her chiropractor

Because she kept trying all these other people and she's like, no

No, nobody can do it like that chiropractor

And she would come home

I'm like, mom, I don't know if you're coming home to visit me

Or your chiropractor

I guess maybe a little bit of both

But she really liked, I don't, you know what it's called

I have no idea what it's called

They don't actually put, use their hands to adjust to you

It's like a little clicker

Activator

And that's what she loved

And other chiropractors would use it

And she would say they just don't know what they're doing

And she'd come right back to the same chiropractor

But that's what she liked

And I told her I was like, no, mom, I want somebody to move my hips

I need you to take them and move them in a whole different position

Because they're not where they're supposed to be

So, you know, everybody just wants needs

Yeah, it's a little different

It's people's nervous systems, like we were talking about earlier, need different things

You need some people need that rough movement

And some people's nervous system need more light force

Yeah, more force techniques

And it does the same thing to me

Okay, for me personally

I took activator in class because I was like, I want that

I want that tool in my bag

Okay, so I took activator for 11 weeks

Got adjusted by like nothing but activator

And it worked, it worked

I feel like it just took longer for me

Yes, not a problem

Like some people's bodies and nervous systems need that time

I want to like put everything together if that makes sense

Yes, and my mom knew I guess what her body needed

Because I always think about

Because she had had X-rays

And then fast forward she'd been seeing this chiropractor for a while

But then there was some new pain coming up

So she was going and getting the activator done

Well, it turns out she did have cancer in her bones

So I can't even imagine if somebody had tried to adjust her

As far as her bones were

Mm-hmm, you know

So individualized care

Crazy concept

Yeah, yeah, yeah

See, I've had patients come in that are

You know, have cancer in the bone

Have our own chemo

All kinds of stuff

And I'm like, yes, continue to come in

During this, like it's not, it don't scare me

If it don't scare you, it don't scare me

But we just, we change it up

Change course, yeah

We do have to go to break really quick

And when we get back, we're going to dig more into this

I want to talk about some nutrition

And some other things

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Welcome back to the nurses report

On America out loud i'm your host Ashley Caputo

And today my guest is Dr. Hillary Webb

Chiropractor of Remedy Chiropractic

In Fayetteville, Georgia

Before the break we were just talking about

Different chiropractic approaches

Individualized care

All sorts of things so if you miss the first half

Please go back and check it out

But I wanted to kind of pick up where we left off

Because that's interesting that you

I like how you said

If it doesn't scare you it doesn't scare me

And that fear

I think sometimes

Is given by their doctors

Right so

I've had a lot of

A lot of providers just completely

Tell people do not go see a chiropractor

You know stop seeing

It's dangerous

You know something bad could happen

How do you how do you kind of

Combat that in your

In your practice

It's tough that's a tough one

Especially

So when i bought my practice

I bought it from

This couple who the chiropractor

Unexpectedly passed away

And it was it was a husband and wife

But she was not a chiropractor

So she had like no option

But to sell the practice

So i came in

And i started covering for her

Helping her keep her doors open

And then we transitioned into me

Purchasing it

The practice of the doctor

Dr. David Alan

Um

Just fantastic the stories that i hear

From the patients that i have kept

About him

Fantastic human

But he was a 72 year old man

Practicing

You know he'd been practicing for 40 some years

And he was like six foot tall

Probably taller than that maybe

And then here i am coming in

This little i was 30 i think i was 30 at the time

Female like five four

Like five four

And patients were kind of just like

Who is this

Like what

Then i do

But just so when you're

When you're practicing that long and stuff

I feel like your patients kind of start to like match

You

I have a very like older patient base

Or at least to start with i did

Um we have since

Brought in some fresh

Some rich faces and stuff like that

Some young families

But um i have a lot of older patients

And um there was one patient

In particular that i remember

He was coming to me he had been to

Dr. Alan for

Ever and then started coming to me

And he came to me for about

Two years

And then came in with his wife

Because she came to

They came together and got adjusted together

As like a couple it was like a little date

For him it was okay

He was like i've been diagnosed with

Um

Stomach cancer some sort of cancer

And um

My doctor told me i can't come anymore

And i was like no you can

And he was like well i'm you know i'm gonna listen to him

He now we're starting keema and blah blah

And i was like well you know well

Let me tell you that

Going through all that

Doing this will benefit you

Help you

While you're going through that

Support you through that

And he was like well i'm just going to listen to him

And then like three months later he passed away

Yeah

So that's like that's hard to see

And i'm just like well how much bit

Like i'm i get in my hand i'm like how much better

What his end of life been

If he had you know come in

Or like you know i believe that everybody has a time to go

And when they go it's their time

So i don't think by any means

That i could have like prolonged his life

At all but maybe kind of eased them

Yeah yeah

Yeah i um i think there

Are more

Providers becoming open to it

Because i've seen it being integrated a little more

Even the cancer center that my mom was at she

She had cancer you know

She had an immaterial cancer and it spread to her spine

But when we were there um they got had a whole team

And a naturopath was part of her team

And they offered to help get her chiropractic services

They were very um

They wanted to make sure she got with the right chiropractor

Because she was so frail

But they were like you know they could probably help with

Because her her pain was very poorly managed

I thought i was like wow i haven't really heard an on-collegeist

I tell somebody you know to go see a chiropractor

So i think it's out there i think um

Even like the homaha movement and everything

People are what people demand

You're going to eventually have to get and and provide for you know

So if people are demanding alternative approaches

Doctors are going to have to give in

You know start working together

And all it takes is a conversation you know

Like i mean all you have to do is call me if you're a provider

And you're you're trying to find that for somebody or somebody wants that

And you're looking for a specific thing

Then call me or check out and go check out my website

Google is free you know

Yeah that's all on my website

Um but yeah just call me i don't talk to anybody

Or if some if a patient comes into me and they're like

Hey can you call my doctor and blah blah blah blah

I'm like yes absolutely like i have no problem to with that

Um so yeah it's yeah but i think i think it's coming around like we even um

At my daughter's school

One of her best little friends her his dad is an orthopedic surgeon at Georgia

Bone and joint and um we have some mutual patience

And he's like i need to get to know y'all because like

If my daughter loves your daughter then i know y'all are good people and like he's like

I need your card like let's let's refer and i'm like

Yes like my patient i even ask my patient i'm like what do you think about him

And they're like love him i love him and i'm like great then let's do it you know

I love when you find that when you find providers that are willing to kind of

Maybe swallow their pride a little bit like you know i can't fix everything i might need to

Collaborate and and try a different approach um because ultimately that's going to be what's best for the patient

Right because i'm definitely not the carburetor that's like oh you're still hurt and let's keep going like

I will disappoint yeah

Post it down with my patients and be like hey

We've been doing this for however long and

We're not getting anywhere so we can either like pivot again

Or you need to start thinking about

Seeing an orthopedic or something like that like talking

Surgery and um and they're always super appreciative of that it it scares a lot of my patients

Because a lot of my patients are like so natural-minded and they

They don't want surgery for example we have a patient right now who she they were talking about hip surgery

Well so we were like well let's try shot wave therapy on it

And after the first visit she's like i feel better i'm feeling good and i'm like okay well let's let's

Keep this go and see what happens but

If push comes to shove

You know what all what the end road is

Now you peaked my interest what is what is shot wave therapy?

Well shot wave therapy is um they're marketing it now as like kind of like self wave therapy

Because i guess they thought shot wave was too um of a scary name

But it's basically it's basically like you know how old

It's basically like you know how ultrasound like therapeutic ultrasound like it's in waves

Um to promote healing and stuff like that shot wave is

Similar to that but more aggressive it can go much deeper um but it's just a promote healing

Top of now everything so is this is this the same thing that um

Like after you've had surgery and you have a lot of scar tissue build up

It can't see therapy like they yes probably i'm not sure exactly but yes

Shot wave therapy is really good for scar tissue break up okay okay

Because i remember we used to um if people had abdominal

Surgery see sections things like that and we're having some discomfort around their incision

And um it was thought to be like maybe scar tissue and stuff we would i think we referred to physical therapist

That would would do the therapy but it sounded very similar to that that's so cool because it's a um not an invasive

No i mean it's not the most comfortable thing at least to me

It's not a comfortable thing um to have done but it is super effective super effective

When she filled the results it's like it's like yeah you're like i'll work out and do that again yeah

So i um so i have a question

Okay

Because i've always been a big supporter of chiropractic care but one thing i don't really

Understand and i i don't think i ever i was like it works so i'm just gonna do it but why does it help

Why does adjusting help okay well surface level

Adjusting uh releases endorphins

So like very that's number one

Um but really really when you get into the like philosophy of like what we do um we're just we're removing interference

From your nervous system so that your brain and your body can communicate better

And so you're getting that endorphin release

You're you're moving better which feels better and then like your brain and your body are just

Communicating better so like everything is better

Yeah

Yeah so and you mentioned endorphins because i have heard from people that sometimes

Getting adjusted on and even doing like acupuncture you get kind of an emotional response

Mm-hmm you feel like this wave of emotion some people will cry

Yep that's because of that

I have had that experience with people like i would adjust somebody and they would just start ball

And and i'm just like

Are you okay

And they're like yeah there's just you know and because

Trauma

Can can physically build up in your body in the form of like you know tight muscles

Stuff like that and so when that is released it just releases a whole lot of emotions that people didn't even know

Were there

I um i had a patient that i was working with that had pretty severe depression and anxiety

And started seeing a chiropractor and that's when he started noticing a change

You know he had done the therapy and been on the medications

So he was changing his diet he was doing all these things but it was just like there was this blocker

Like there there was just something he couldn't get past

And when he started seeing a chiropractor it was like that wall came down

Yeah

To heal from it and you know i was telling i'm like you you hold all of this i mean that's why we hold tension in our shoulders and you know have all this pain if you're

Have a stressful job that's usually where you and sometimes you don't realize it yeah you're sitting there just like tight intense and um so with um when you get adjusted

Because i feel like your muscles and tendons and everything are just going to try to pull it back to where it was so you have to work on it

And then you have to work on the muscles stretching exercises is that

Yeah so like what i tell my patients to is like it was specifically the most common little culprit is a rib head

Like when someone has like oh i have a rib out um that because you're you're you're breathing

And those muscles are constantly moving when you have a rib that's been out of place for so long

Your body wants it to stay there

And so then i go and i put it back and your body's like uh

Like i don't like what she just did so we're going to pull that right back out

And that's where we get into muscle memory

So you do it a couple times and then your body's like fun

I give in

I will leave this here where Dr. Hillary put it it's fine

Um but usually just i mean sometimes it'll it can be like

I will leave this here where Dr. Hillary put it it's fine

But usually just i mean sometimes it'll it can stay after the first time

Sometimes if it's been there for a while it could take you know two or three visits

Yeah it's funny to say that because i um

Back in my younger days

I taught through nursing school i taught zoom about like six seven days a week

And i wore terrible shoes but they were cute and they worked well on the gym floor

Them anyway so i know

I was just you know kind of being hard on my body

But i was seeing a chiropractor

Um and he was like man this pes there was one rib

That they were always trying to adjust and there was only one chiropractor

In that practice

That could get it to

To go back where it was supposed to be

Because i would lay down on the table

And they would try to adjust me and they just like they couldn't get it

And i could feel it was stuck you know

So they had this one chiropractor he was way taller than me

And he would come in and have me stand up

And he'd like pick me up and adjust me

And it was the only way that one little pesky rib

Would go back into place

And i'm like can we just get rid of it

Because it caused that one rib causes you so much trouble

Um what is it from sitting?

What's it from it

It's just life

Living breathing you could cough and it could do that sneezing

Um i see a lot of people like during this pollen and stuff

It's going to be like we're going to come in there and we're like i got a rib out

And it just is

Just part of that

Just part of it

And so you mentioned pollen

And which is awful in the lake behind my house

You can already see the pollen

Floating in the lake it's all over my car

So i know one thing that is recommended a lot

When people have sinus problems allergies

Go to your chiropractor

Oh yeah

How? Why?

Why does that help?

Um again

Because it does

I've left less congested but i was always curious why it helps

Because it can help break up the sonuses like that's what

I do is like i'll use that clicker activator

Along the sonuses

And it um

It just helps break it up helps you get it out

Um people love it

But i also do recommend nac

During this time

Yeah

So big on that during pollen

And that's the precursor for glutathione

Right?

Yeah

I recommend people take that a lot too

It's a good

That's one of my good ones

Yeah

Um and so

As far as um

Like allergies one thing i've seen

Be really helpful is for kids

Because

Kids if they have allergies

Like not many parents want to just have to give their kids medicine

Every single day

And then they they suffer

And you know if an adult

If we have a stuff he knows eventually we're like

Forget i'm i'm going to bed

I'll deal with it

Kids

My child is not going to sleep if he can't breathe through his nose

Yes

So i know chiropractic care can be helpful for the kids

How do you approach um kids differently

I meet kids where they're at

So like if a kid wants to come

And like jump right on my table and get adjusted

Then like here i'm for

Um i just kids sitting on the floor

I just kids with their mom is holding them

Um

We figure out what's because if if a kid's crying

It's going to make mom a tense

And i don't want to make mom a tense

Um

If a kid's crying

While mom is getting adjusted

We're going to get somebody hold that

Like we're going to make that baby happy

Because i want mom to be happy

Because mom can't concentrate if baby's crying

Like family practice

And we

We try to make everybody happy

Like i i've i've worked on babies where they're

They're screaming

And it's there's nothing i can do

But i'm like let's just get this done

Really we'll get it done really quick

And then hear mama

You can nurse her right here if you want to

Whatever

Um but i've adjusted babies and they sleep through it

So yeah

Yeah

It helped with breastfeeding

Yes he was having trouble with this latch

Yes

And we were seeing our art

My chiropractor during that pregnancy

If i could have gone back to well i didn't know you were here

I could have found you

But um he was amazing

During everything

I mean he

His wife i mean they had had children

And so he was just all about like helping mom and the baby

And making sure you can breastfeed

Good and it was just really nice to see that whole family approach

So i love that

And we are a true family

And actually i will tell you this too

It's funny because people you know

Travel to see to see me

And i've had

Probably

I want to say two or three people

That have

Come to me and then

You know had like maybe like a little gap in care

And then they come back

I'm gonna admit Hillary i went somewhere else

Like they cheated on you

I think they cheated on me

And they're like i went somewhere else because it was closer

And it just

It wasn't the same

Like i like it wasn't the same

It wasn't

It wasn't you

Like i didn't have that same connection

And i'm like well what did we learn

Um so yeah

I mean if you find a good one

I would say like make it worth the draw

You know like yeah

Worth the draw

Their worth their prices

You know you go somewhere else

And you see that you get

Not the same thing

You know

So you know but they always come back

Usually

Yeah well you know you want

You want that individualized care

And you want a provider that

You feel good with

And you feel comfortable with

You know if you can't be honest

With your with your provider

And tell them what's going on

What works, what doesn't you know

Yeah and if something's like going on

That like is not like

Even my in my

Fieldhouse

Um and you want my opinion

Like i'm here for you

Like i want my patients to feel

Like they're my best friend

They're coming to their girl

You know like

And talk to me

No matter what like

Or if my older patients

Like i want you to feel like

I'm your daughter you know

Like that's how i'm going to treat you

And uh that's

Something that i really

Prove myself on as a as a provider

Yeah and i'm sure your patience

Really appreciate that too

Sure hope so

Yes

Well um

We have seen a lot of people

With some crazy symptoms

Like long COVID

Vaccine injury

It seems like people are getting sick more often

And how can

Chiropractic care kind of play a role in that

Because it is something that

That we usually recommend

Yeah um you know

It really can

Chiropractic care is for everybody

If you have a spine history

Or someone

You would just be

Amazed at like

The miracles that

Carp practice can

Do for people

I mean i'm not going to adjust you for your

Long COVID

Like i'm not adjusting you for that

If you come into me and that's something that you have

And then all of a sudden it's better

Woo i'll take full credit for

The

But i'm not adjusting you specifically for

like I'm adjusting you to help you, you know, move better,

live better, heal better.

So, yeah, that's how we-

I think, because for me, with long COVID,

with the vaccines, that's what they call vaccines,

I guess the experimental shot is a better way to describe it.

But they, I feel like it caused like a lot of inflammation

in the body.

And that's, I actually have seen,

like I actually started asking patients, you know,

whether or not they've had, they've had COVID or the vaccine,

just to help me better understand what's going on with their body.

Like, if they have some unexplained,

I've had two, two patients that have come in post COVID vaccine

that had blood clots, and guess who called them?

Me.

And one of my patients was like,

I can't wait to go to my medical doctor

and tell him the my carburetor friend, this blood clot.

And it just kind of like,

it just kind of put different like red flag alerts

in my pocket for people.

Yeah, I think it's important.

It's almost like that has to just be a part of the assessment now

because it's just wrecked havoc on the body,

the nervous system, cardiovascular system, everything.

So, I'm glad you're, you're including that.

Because I, you know, people, I think are feeling desperate

because they're not getting relief,

they're not feeling better.

They are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What about with all these electronics?

Everybody has a device in their hand,

kids have devices that's got to be like kind of wrecking your neck

and your shoulders.

It's like the worst thing ever.

You know, it's like this.

I was looking at my steps on,

I have two steps on the other day.

He was playing some game on his, on his iPad

and he's literally sitting like this.

And I'm just like, bro, can you,

I was like, you're either gonna put that up

or you're gonna hold it up.

And he, so he was like, yes, ma'am.

And he like brought it up.

Well, they haven't been schools too.

So it's like, they have computers or tablets at school

and then you come home and then they're on a tablet

and with their phone or something.

Same thing for adults, you know.

Yeah, I mean, and I, you know,

we are skeletonly mature.

And so it's really important, you know,

like when babies do tummy time,

they're building that curve.

That's why you're doing tummy time

is to like help build that curve in the neck.

And so like, it's, I think it would be really important,

like especially in schools,

if someone would walk around and make sure

that like kids were like using good posture

while using electronic,

because we're not gonna be able to go away

with the electronics, you know, like now.

Kids are gonna, my three year old has an iPad.

She does.

I know a lot of parents don't do the electronics,

but like it's, that's what's going on right now.

Like that's how our kids are gonna grow up

is there in the electronic age.

And so I think it's just best to support your child

through this difference that we didn't grow up with, you know,

like we had dial-up internet when I was,

when I went to, and we could only get on it

when Mama wasn't as bad in a phone call, you know.

So it's like, we didn't have to really worry about that stuff.

So now I think it's just important for you to take steps

to like work with your children through this,

these advancements of like technology and stuff.

So like bring them to the car tractor,

make sure they're utilizing good posture.

But like, don't take it away from them.

Like they're gonna make it like,

it's gonna be, there's gonna come a time I imagine

when we're not gonna know how to do stuff on the internet,

you know, like our grandparents are like,

what I bring up my Facebook, I don't know.

Sometimes I ask my kids for help.

And I'm like, my kids are seven and five

and they will help me, you know.

And so I was doing something the other day

in my 12 year old step.

So I was like, oh, look, there you go.

And I was like, oh, look, so I mean,

it's important that they just, you know,

utilize good posture and make them sit.

So don't let them sit there like this.

Like that, that's not good for anybody,

but car seats do the same thing.

So that's a whole lot.

You know, and unfortunately, we're out of time

and I have so much more we could talk about.

So we might have to do a part two at some point.

But I do want to thank you so much for coming on.

How can people get in touch with you

if they want to find you?

Okay, we are on Facebook, the Remedy Chiropractic.

We are also on Instagram at the Remedy Chiros.

And you can always go to our website,

theremedychiros.com.

And we'll put all of that in the show notes

to so you guys can look her up.

But thank you so much.

This is such a fun conversation.

This was.

Thank you guys for joining the Nurses Report.

We'll see you next time.