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The doggy joins us now here on You Better You bet a doggy great to be here Nicky Costos here on Westwood One Sports. How are you?

I got to hire you as a PR guy. You couldn't have done that any better. My goodness gracious, especially with the vice thing with the verdict X and job there.

Doing well. How are you doing today? Things good? What's on your mind?

I got to tell you, I'm feeling great. Can I be honest with you? Are mutual friend Billy Z wrote that for me and I read it.

So Bill gets. That's what I wanted to tell you. You read it well and you read it like you're talking about and nobody likes Billy Z more than me.

Billy was our producer for a long time. It's serious XM. The famous line was when they said we're going to bring Christopher Russo in in 2008.

And it's going to do two to seven. And Bill said there is no way anybody in America could do five hours a day on serious.

And Bill was convinced that we had no chance to do it. And I told Bill Bill I can do it. And for five years, I did.

So there you go. But there is nobody. And I've known Bill for a long time. There is nobody who knows the intricacies and has got the brains and knows how to move her maneuver show better than those amendments.

I mean, that I mean, he's very greedy. Excellent sports talk guy. Excellent. Excellent. Go ahead. Billy is the best. And we have and doggy. We have a bill has a surprise for you coming up at the end of the segment, which we very much look at.

It's going to be a good one. I'm fascinated by this doggy. And like I turn 43 in a couple of months. I feel like I'm kind of like a like a boomer at 42 going to be 43.

I watched it. And you know, I'm a Yankees fan. I know you're a Giants fan, right? So I'm sure you're watching the game last night on Netflix.

I like don't understand all this pomp and circumstance. And I don't know who like this comedian is that keeps taking your shirt off. And I don't know why we need James Winston with the crab legs during a baseball game.

I'm fascinated for Christopher Mad Dog Russo's thoughts on Netflix's opening game broadcast of the Yankees and the Giants last night.

I couldn't agree with you more plus they embarrassed the commissioner. They put them on during the top of the inning and elested 90 seconds and actually asked them four questions.

And that was the end of that. You don't do that to the commissioner. You put them on for 90 seconds. The first question was your first opening day, which is confusing.

As I think they meant to ask the question in his life. And he took it as in baseball. And he said 88. The second question was, OK, how did you fall in love with baseball, which again.

And he brought up 68 when he went to a Yankee twin game as you saw. I've heard that 34 years told me he loves Mickey Manel. And then the third question was something about the ABS.

You know, system and a fourth question, whatever it may have been a terrible job. James Winston, I can't figure it out. I'm 100% in agreement.

You know, the idea that we're going to do a freaking Netflix to white socks, swakies in the middle of August. I mean, what are you doing giving them the opener?

Yes, network, which does the Yankees oil you along that does all the grunt work. They can't get the first game of the year when they get a little buzz and they get some people talking about it.

That's why today NBC, that I don't understand either. The one thing about NBC, at least that's a contract that they're doing games all year. I mean Netflix is a is a one off.

So I was really down on it, but I don't want to see Barry bonds anywhere anywhere near. I understand he's a giant, but bonds cannot do any interviews outside of San Francisco. I'm not interested in that either.

I'm showing a home run number out there in right center field. Did you ask Henry Aaron if that was okay? I'm on into that. So yeah, I had major problem and and and and the game started at 825.

All right. Start the game at 8 o'clock for plan out loud. Jesus. 825. I mean, come on. Games along enough. I got a sit there. I got games the next Thursday in Friday with the tournament where I'm going to be up to three in the end.

That's long to where I'm going to be up to 2 a.m. Can you start the game at 8 o'clock? So I did not like anything about that Netflix presentation. I understand that the NFL does it. I understand they're doing it for a dollar.

They it's money, but to me, it's a cheap way to do it. And I and I did it yesterday on first take. So this is not a second guess. I did it yesterday. I was a man about. I couldn't stand it. So there you go. How's that? I'm not sure. You like hold up. It's I thought I feel I didn't know. I didn't like it. I loved it. And I actually would like to find.

There was so much bad with it, Chris, that I hope that you can respect me asking this follow-up question because you could actually answer this in like 13 different ways.

Outside of the man for an interview, which you already referenced, what is the one thing that bothered you the most about the broadcast last time? Maybe it could be bonds. Maybe it's something that there are a lot of a lot of choices potentially.

I get you on Winston. Why is James Winston who's got a very checkered past by the way? Why is James Winston? Why? Because he pitched in Florida. Stay. Who cares? Why is James Winston involved in this? I could not figure that out. What is there fascination with a first thing quarterback? I mean, not really. It's not a giant fan. He's not from San Francisco.

I mean, God, I mean, James Winston, I did not understand the fascination that Netflix had with James Winston. Listen, I thought baseball. And again, they've had a great run. The World Series was wonderful. The postseason, the new rules, give the commissioner credit for that.

I think the ABS system will be fun. You know, they had a wonderful. I'm not in love with it. It's gimmicky to me, but I'm not going to argue with the ratings. They had a very, very good early March with the WBC. I mean, Jesus, the Venice will a USA game to 11 million last week. The NBA finals, Oklahoma City and Indiana and Game 2, it ain't a half minute.

I understand it's the USA on, you know, on a jersey, but still that's what you need to know. They've had a great run, but this one was an absolute disaster. I mean, to sit there and I don't know how much they possibly gotten on the idea that somehow some way that, you know, this is globalization. It's nice.

People in Japan and love base, they don't need Netflix. They love baseball anyway. People in South America, Venezuela, Columbia, all these countries, they love baseball, the Caribbean, they love baseball. And if you're trying to, if you're trying to get Europe involved, well, the game is a three o'clock in the morning.

It's a time difference. Nobody in London's getting up to see the Giants and Yankees at 2 a.m. or 1 a.m. I mean, it's mind boggling. So Winston, bother me the most. And then, of course, it started the game Nick.

825 is ridiculous. You can't start a book. Put the game on an 805. Gee, which I mean, that show me crazy. There's nonsense with the pregame show. Play the game for crying out loud. Play the game.

And it was like it said 805. And you turn it on. Expecting the game to start in 805. And now here's these taxi cabs in this committee. And I've never heard of it. He's in a canoe. I do want to.

I'm actually really interested dog in your in your take on back.

One thing about that with this with this with the Giants with the I've had enough over the last 20 years with these kayakers looking for.

Looking for home runs in the stupid McCubby co. All right. You know, I dressed up in these stupid outfits waiting to get a.

Waiting to get a home run ball in with their canoes. That's a little. That's a little played out. I've had a.

I put the Giants win 100 games and then we'll worry about the canoes. I'm a little played out with that.

As far as that San Francisco scene is concerned. But go ahead. Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of like.

They kind of strike me as like the sports fan equivalent of the people that go to Times Square for New Year's Eve and stand there and like.

And like piss their pants and wear diapers all day. I don't really get it either.

That's a good comparison. That's a good comparison. I.

I'm actually. I'm actually interested in what you said about. And obviously you're a lifelong huge San Francisco Giants fan, right.

I'm fascinated that you didn't like bonds on the pregame. And I'm just going to say like I really liked bonds.

Because he's Barry bonds and bonds is one of these guys, right. Good. Yeah. I'm going to be fairness.

I didn't see bonds enough to really get a good read on them. But you know.

Can I can I tell you what you'll think basically and I'm not trying to speak for. I'm not trying to speak for you here.

But I think I think you'd agree with this. I don't think like you would watch him and think he's a television natural.

He's not coming out there knocking you dead with analysis or delivery. It's more just like he's Barry bonds talking about baseball.

Like that's why doggy I grooved on in a little bit in the pregame.

Yeah. Listen, I understand that. But to me, what they tried to do is legitimize bonds.

You could not do bonds in any other city in America on opening day but San Francisco.

If that game was at Yankee Stadium, nobody wants to hear from Barry bonds.

No, New Yorker wants to hear from Barry bonds. I can pay that right now.

But since the game is in San Francisco, I guess it works.

I, you know, I just don't like the idea that the last 15 years, we try to sanitize Barry bonds.

All he was a whole of family before steroids. All, you know, he's an all time great and all this nonsense.

You know, we look a little differently at the steroids. There's other steroid guys and a whole of fame.

And the bottom line is is that bonds was an all time great. And he cheated.

And that's that's any room in the record books bond.

I'm a choir. He's not the only one. I'm from arrow and you know, Sosa.

They ruined the record books. And I am a guy who loves the baseball history,

who loves all that scenario. But all those cheaters and there is a ton of them.

They will and bonds is the leader in the pack. Maguire second.

They ruined the historical aspect of the of the home run.

There's no other, there's no other argument. They ruined it.

You know, they made 50 homers not a big deal. I mean, they made the 500 home run club.

I mean, I'm not a big deal. And I am not going to see here now 20 years later.

And, you know, say, you know what, no big deal. Let's move on and steroids is an old thing.

And, you know, it's not even a bad deal. Anyway, I'm not doing that.

Okay. Henry Aaron didn't do it. But she didn't do it. Reggie Jackson asked him what he feels about that.

He hates it too. I'm not going to all of a sudden now, you know, with dated breath,

wait for Bobby Barry Barnes's analysis of baseball teams. And I tell you right now,

I find it ironic and nobody asked him where it's made.

Barry, how is it going to feel on the whole of fame on July 26th when Kent's getting in?

And you're not. How's it going to feel?

Thank great question. How's it going to feel? It's a great question.

And nobody asked yesterday. Barry, does it bother you? How about when we got Barry Barnes on there?

How about somebody asking Barry, does it bother you? How do you feel when your teammates, Jeff Kent,

who you play with for five or six years and had a, you know, up and down relationship?

But you were very good together. How does it feel? How's it going to feel in July when he's inducted and you can't get in?

I like to ask. Well, I like to answer. They had 20 minutes to ask him that nobody asked it.

Now, it's a gutsy question, but I would have liked to hear the answer. How's that?

So I'm down on bombs. I don't want to hear from them.

Chris, for Mad Dog Russo here with us on you better.

You've had Westwood once for us with Nick Costos, the verdict season two debuted a couple days ago.

Tuesday's nine PM Eastern for more episodes hosted by the doggy.

Mad Dog unleashed first take on ESPN. So the true story.

I was telling Billy Z this dog during the break. I'm driving a couple.

I think it was Tuesday a couple of days bleed together a couple days ago.

And I'm listening to it to your show on serious and you've got Mike Facaro on long time great columnist for the New York Post.

And you're talking about Georgetown Brenner and his relationship with Billy Martin.

And I actually the ultimate compliment you can pay in radio right is I get to my house.

And I sit there in the car and I listen to it for like another 10 minutes before I ultimately had to go in the house to take care of my daughter.

So that's kind of serendipitous right because we have you on the show now.

And last night on Netflix,

Bond's is talking about how we almost signed with the Yankees back in the day and had a conversation with Georgetown.

Browning hug up the phone on George and then signed with the San Francisco Giants.

I'm guessing you've heard this story before. Can you provide some context for this?

Like you're a walking encyclopedia on bonds, maybe potentially having signed with the Yankees.

I did not know about that.

But Carol mentioned it in not as in detail.

He mentioned that in his book about Yankees with bonds.

So from that perspective, I wasn't shocked when I didn't hear him say it live.

I think but people were telling me about it.

But I do think that Mike mentioned his book and that book on Steinbanner is as good a book as you're going to read.

It's 90% George and 10% how even more than that 95 to 5%.

And you know, he's got all those great anecdotes and that's one of them and great storylines.

Listen, that was a tremendous move by McGowan.

That move was made after the 92 season.

McGowan, then the giant owner who grew up on the east side and was a huge Giants fan.

I mean, never's where Bobby Thompson and at the whole moment, everything else.

I knew Peter pretty well.

Well, pretty well, knew him well enough.

And he loved Thompson.

And that was a situation where he had just bought the team.

They almost moved to the trap in Tampa or in St. Pete.

They didn't.

He bought the team.

He saved the team.

Now, forget that we're going to have that stadium built before the earthquake and then that one by the board.

And you know, he that winner, he gave bonds.

I think it was a $43 million seven year contract.

I think that was the number.

And I remember that.

It was that kind of Friday night.

And that was a great signing and bonds was a great giant.

Nobody's going to argue with that.

Right off the bat, bonds was a great giant.

And I did not realize that he blew up George.

I remember that was right when George either was suspended by Vincent or had just gotten off the suspended list.

One of the other.

It's right around that period.

Remember, Vincent suspended him in 90 or 91.

But they how he put a Howard spirit thing.

And it was a lifetime ban.

And then George got reinstated.

I don't know the exact date.

So I don't know if in fact George made the call when he wasn't supposed to or he made the call when he got immediately back.

But I think there was no way he was getting bonds anyway.

I think the Willie May scenario.

I think, you know, playing because it was his God's Godfather.

I think playing in a city where his father played new ownership.

McGowan a huge giant fan.

I think he was going to San Francisco myself.

And thank God because he was great anyway.

And, you know, to be fair to bonds.

93 he was incredible.

He had 46 homers.

He had 126 RBIs.

The second, the third to last game with a season when the Giants had to win the match Atlanta and that great pennant race.

I think he hit two homers, a double and seven RBIs against the Dodgers to keep us in it.

He was he batted fifth that year.

Remember, Clark batted third.

Not Williams batted fourth.

And he batted fifth.

He didn't batted, you know, he didn't mow and groan about it.

Reggie did when he batted fifth for the Yankees in 77.

And they, you know, he didn't like that bonds who was a cleanup bitter or a number 300 for Pittsburgh never said a peat.

He was perfect at fifth.

That was a great, not a good.

That was a great giant team.

And I can make the argument where I lived and died every pitch that year.

I can make an argument despite the fact they won three titles.

That may be the best giant team they've had.

Well, the two best teams the Giants had in San Francisco.

I can make the argument or the 62 team that lost the Yankees in game seven.

And that 93 team.

They had 220 game winners in Billy Swift and Burke and John Brickett.

They won 103 games.

Their Braves won 104.

The Giants were eight and a half ahead in mid August.

They fell three and a half back.

They won 15 of 17 to get even going in the last day.

And they had one of the first three games of that series against the Dodgers.

And then they got murdered on the Sunday 13 to one while the Braves had beaten the Rockies for the 13th consecutive time.

And the Braves ended up winning the division.

And I think the Giants took something out of the Braves because they then proceeded to lose the Phillies.

And by the way, the Giants owned the Phillies that year.

They were to beat them.

I think the Giants were the one whole thing.

And the Blue Jays.

They would have been the Blue Jays and the 93 World Series old.

They would have been the Blue Jays, right in the World Series.

I think that would have too.

And I talked to Dusty about this on a couple of occasions.

They pitched Solomon Torres, not to get into the 93 Giants, but they pitched Solomon Torres in the last game of the year.

And Dusty took a lot of hits for that because he was a rookie pitcher.

The input scout.

Sanderson.

And Dusty said he did that because in 1980 in the last game of the year when the Dodgers were catching Houston,

they begged Tommy the Sorter to pitch Fernando in the last game against the Astros because they really,

this is before Fernando wanted to rookie the year in 81.

This is 80.

The Dodgers went to L.A.

They were up three games with three to go.

The Dodgers swept them so they had to play a Monday afternoon.

And they begged him to pitch Fernando.

And instead, he pitched Dave Goltz, 7-1 Houston.

They go play the Phillies.

And Dusty said that he remembered that.

And that's why he went to Sodom and Torres instead of Scott Sanderson.

Unfortunately, Torres got bombed.

Giants ended up losing the game.

But I will never take that away from bonds.

He had an incredible year.

And he earned every nickel that season with what he did for our team.

He was great.

Well, Dougie, I'll say this before we bring Billy Z on for the special surprise for you.

As a Yankee fan who started watching baseball in 1990,

having watched Scott Sanderson in the early 90s for the Yankees,

maybe a good move for Solomon Torres to pitch that game and not Scott Sanderson.

And now, let's bring an Arbitral friend, Billy Z.

It was scored at bottom three and then Dodgers scored three runs,

well, 13-1.

But go ahead.

I apologize.

Take it away.

You're great.

Our friend Billy Z is here.

You're old friends.

Billy say hi to Chris for Mad Dog or so.

Hello, Christopher.

Billy, good afternoon.

How are we doing?

Things good?

OK.

I'm doing great.

Better now than I'm talking to you.

So we do, Dougie, every day on the show.

And my bill has a ton of experience doing this obviously right with you.

Did you guys would do Super Bowl trivia every year on Mad Dog on Lisa?

I was like, I love sports trivia.

I fancy myself.

I gotta fancy myself.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Kind of like a younger version of you to a degree in my sports knowledge.

So we do trivia at the end of the show every day.

I test Bill with coming up with a second trivia question for today to see if either you or

I could answer the question.

Are you ready for Bill Zimmerman's trivia question?

Yeah, this would be interesting.

Bill's good at this.

Go ahead, Billy.

Let me hear it.

All right.

Chris, you've been picked your poison.

You want college basketball or baseball?

I think baseball is pretty easy.

College basketball is a little tougher.

Let's do the college basketball there.

Go ahead.

All right.

So today is the anniversary of the Bird Magic Championship game from 1979.

All right.

Which got me thinking.

Yes, it is.

Judd Heathcoach and Tom Hizzo are the only two coaches Michigan State has had for the last

50 years.

Now, they are the only school that's only had two coaches over 50 years.

There are three schools that have had three coaches and current, like up to today.

There are three schools that have had three coaches over 50 years.

Two of them are easy.

One of them's tougher.

Who are the three schools?

All right.

Three schools with 50.

Uh,

North Carolina's had four.

So Dean, uh, Roy.

Syracuse has to be one right, doggy.

Are we working together on this?

Or do you want to take this?

Syracuse has got to be one good job, didn't it?

Yes, Syracuse.

Jerry McNamara is the third coach in the last 50.

Yep.

Does Duke's interim coach, Calvin coach K had to miss time because Duke, Duke's an answer, right?

Or no?

Yeah.

A full-time coaches.

Correct.

Okay.

Got it.

Duke is the second one.

Foster.

Because you got Duke and shot.

You got Duke and shot.

You got Duke and Shire.

Okay.

I'm going to go for that.

It was go Foster.

So there's one word though.

One more.

It's everyone knows the current coach, but it is, it's a smaller school.

I'll give you the hand.

Oh, I know it.

I know it.

I got it.

Go ahead Nick.

Go ahead.

It's, it's, it has, it's, I don't even know who the third guy is.

But it's Dan Monson, Mark Feele and whoever the guy was before Monson at Gonzaga.

Is that right?

No, that is not correct.

There's not got to be four.

I'll give you the third one because it's tough.

Oakland.

With Greg Campy who's been there 41 years now, Jim Mitchell and Lee Fredrick, the other

two.

Oakland.

I never would have gotten that.

That is that is why folks, they're super boat shivvy, a mad dog radio that we did.

How many years bill you and me?

That's why the damn thing was so successful when people loved it because I had Bill London.

I had Bill London.

And that question is an example of Bill's expert kid.

So that's a great job.

Good job, Billy.

There you go.

Thank you.

Thank you, doggy.

Doggy, you're the best.

The verdict on vice Tuesdays at nine o'clock.

Thank you very much.

Enjoy the games this weekend.

We'll catch up down the line.

Good job there next.

Thank you, pal.

Appreciate it.

You got it.

The great Chris for mad dog.

Russo joining us here on you better, you bet.

Billy, how's that like when you always catch up with your old pal, the mad dog?

Yeah, I love talking with Chris.

I was telling you the other day we ended up like a couple months ago.

I was talking to him about like all-time point guards over text message.

Something about oh, when with Chris Paul.

And like we just like like we're having a show on text message.

He's just going off on on Chris Paul and James Harden.

It's incredible.

It's fun.

Like you have.

Good.

Yeah, go ahead.

I just say it.

It's like you have like like Chris's radio show via text message.

Because who like the Chris Russo you see on the air is the same guy off the air.

Same person.

It's not an air.

Can I tell the story about us in San Francisco like last month in the lobby with mad dog?

Yeah, sure.

All right.

So in the hotel what we were at the Hilton Union Square in San Francisco, right?

So we're staying there like us at Odyssey and like all the serious guys are there as well.

And the reason why I say that is I have people know enough about this.

Like Bill and I worked together for a long time together at serious.

Me for NFL radio and mad dog radio bill for mad dog radio, right?

So we know everybody that works there.

We've been in this industry for a long time and I'm not bragging when I say this.

If you do this for long enough, like you're going to know basically everybody.

It's a pretty small industry, right?

So we're all in the same hotel.

So every day you're running into people you know that you haven't seen in a while.

You don't necessarily talk to on a day and day basis because you're not working with them anymore, right?

But you're still friends with these people.

So I think it was later in the week.

I think we had just like eaten with Mitch, right?

Mitch Rosen.

We get back to the hotel.

It's probably like three o'clock local time.

I don't know what it doesn't matter.

Anyway, dog is sitting there in the lobby with Eddie Erickson who's currently the producer of mad dog on leached on serious.

And we both walk up to Chris and we say hi and we start talking.

Dog per se.

I don't even know how this started.

He started talking about John Brody.

The Niners quarterback in like the early 70s who had just passed away.

It started because we talked to him about the Ernie, of course, the interview.

That's right.

He had a portion on the show on when John Brody died and just he went off for on Tony.

So I'm standing there and like, look,

I mad dog is what I love Chris.

He's the best and I understand that like you the listener or the viewer like you would love to sit there.

Wese, I sat there.

How long were we there with dog 25 minutes?

Yeah, 20, 20, 25 minutes I would say.

Yeah.

This was a conversation that that could have been like three minutes long.

And like not to say that we don't like talking to dog just like it's the end of a long day.

Like can we go back up to the room, please?

And dog and bill just like kept this conversation going and I'm like seething standing there like bill.

Can we please get out of this conversation, please?

And it was just like doggy's greatest hits like talk about Brody in the 1971 NFC championship game against the Dallas Cowboys.

It was, it's pretty funny story in retrospect at the time bill.

I did not find it very funny to be honest.

Yeah, that's, but that's the thing is it's because it's all the details that he knows.

Like so Steve Tory, the program director of Mad Dog Radio, he's there as well.

They're arguing about specific years that Brody played the Cowboys,

whether it was like 66 or 68 or whatever it was.

Like, but they have that kind of details.

And that's, that's what's wild about Chris.

Like I remember he did an interview with George Brett when the royals were in the World Series against the Giants.

And he was talking about some detail of the Yankees Royals series of the late 70s.

And George Brett just goes, I don't remember that at all, but if you say it happened, I believe you.

Can I, can I ask?

I, I generally think I'm pretty self aware, which means that what's about to follow is a comment that is totally lacking in self awareness.

And I'm a, and I am aware of that at least.

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