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"LET'S FISH!!"
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Football is for me.
You seem like the type of guy who's clapping at home a lot.
Um, don't think how I get my kids' attention.
I do a lot of like, a lot of like, hey, hey, there's a lot of A.
And then sometimes I'll get a little hit look.
That's the only thing that works.
Yeah.
Hey, and then they, my kids know to do the what?
Yeah.
I call, I'm really weird.
I call my kids by their name and just ask for their attention, like respectfully.
Does that work?
Yeah.
No.
No, it doesn't.
Okay.
That's what I thought.
I've tried that before.
No, it's never worked.
Yeah.
Like they both, they, they know the sound.
We also do the, if they're, if they're lost, if I think they're lost in the woods.
Right.
If I need people's attention, I pretend to choke.
That's me.
And your kids will give you attention if they think you're showing.
Yeah, you got to like really sell it.
Sometimes I pass out for a little bit.
Wow, what a gift.
And then they're all, I don't know.
I'm like, gosh, you're okay with it.
I'm like, okay, now that I've got you here.
There's some tennis shoes in the hallway.
And you got a free nap out of the deal.
You just secure that.
That's next level, man.
Yeah.
You got to be playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers.
It's the only way to parent as far as I'm concerned.
And that's the end of our parenting podcast.
Hi, everybody.
My name's Anthony.
That's Tim.
Hey.
Welcome to Christian Movie Club.
Cue the club music.
I'm just glad you're not singing the club music.
No, you can't sing club music.
You just got to rock with it.
Let it move your body.
A little sound.
Disco.
Ah.
So fun.
Everybody's listening.
But there's no sound.
It's actually like horrifying.
If you ever been to a silent disco not in the headphones,
it's real scary.
I think it's so much better.
I don't like the loud noise.
I don't like it anymore.
Yeah.
I'm done with loud noises.
That's it.
I don't like fireworks.
Not a big fan.
It's not like I'm jumpy.
I just don't like the loud noise.
Slowly turning into an old dog.
Well, yeah, but I feel like old dogs can't hear the loud noise.
So what does it matter?
Oh, you yell at an old man.
And he's like, yeah, what do you say?
No, I can hear every bit of it.
Yeah.
I don't like it.
Yeah, kind of with you.
But I do really want to keep the kids off my lawn.
Well, that's just for the health of the grass.
Real, real productive reason for that.
This is Christian Movie Club, like I said.
And today we're doing a very seasonal film.
Tis the season.
Tis the reason.
Let that sink in for a minute.
The reason for the seasons, however you're going to say,
because that's Christmas.
Is risen.
Hmm.
Risen.
That's the movie we're reviewing today.
2016, I think.
2016, yeah.
We're here to review the movie, risen.
Before we jump in, happy springtime to you.
Happy, I don't know when you're listening to this.
But I don't know if it's Easter or pre-easter.
It could be a good Friday.
Who knows.
Shouldn't be too much pre-easter.
Yeah.
Won't be too pre-easter.
You know, it goes great in an Easter basket.
If that's something you do, eggs.
Oh, hats.
Oh, I have a funny hat.
These hats in general, I think are a good Easter gift.
But this is a great one.
A good Easter gift.
A good Easter gift.
A sheep on it.
Yeah.
Springtime.
The time of the sheep.
So, Bible's funny hats.
A lot of positive energy around the hats.
You can get them at the link.
You can get the Bible's funny car game at the link.
All these make great Easter gifts.
Oh my gosh.
Maybe think about that.
Yeah.
I mean, what a perfect little basket you could get.
The hat could be the basket.
Oh.
You could put eggs in it.
Don't put all your eggs in the one basket, though.
Why not?
Because what if you drop it?
What if you drop two baskets in your...
I never got that red case of the drop sees.
And you can't be trusted.
But if you keep one basket really safe,
then all the eggs are fine.
Yeah.
Also...
If you're managing three or four or five baskets,
like one of those is going to get lost.
You've lost a fifth of your eggs.
Why is...
What?
Like a basket is such a non-parallels holding device.
You know what I mean?
Like if you were to say a glass,
you're like, well, those break.
But when's the last time you were like,
I had a huge basket accident.
I mean, if it overflows, that's one basket didn't.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're flowing, maybe.
But like, I would put a basket up there
with like the safest receptacle we've currently got.
But beyond is how many...
What are you carrying in a basket now?
Laundry.
They have a laundry basket.
Okay.
And they've never once been like,
you know what happened on the way to the laundry the other day?
Is I...
Shucks my laundry everywhere.
Because it was just barely hanging onto a basket.
Do you have anything to do with like the weight of all the eggs
on top of each other?
And not about the basket.
To put all the eggs into one basket.
Yeah.
It's more likely that they hit each other.
Well, on the bottom one would get crushed.
Yes.
That's true.
If you are aware of phrases.
Because this one's got us in a real basket case.
We gotta go.
Check out or go and let us know.
Where did we get to phrase all eggs in one basket?
But we...
I don't care.
I think...
I don't care.
I made it sound like I care.
I don't.
My problem is I do think we just solved it.
It's having a lot of things in one thing.
It's like more likely it's something breaks.
But I'm with you and that.
I initially thought it was about like,
well, what if you drop the basket?
And I don't think that's what it's about.
I think it's about things breaking each other.
I don't think that's what it is.
You think it's about...
Because I mean, certainly that's the...
Because nobody's like, oh my gosh.
Don't put all your files in one file folder.
Otherwise, the files are gonna crush each other to death.
No, it's about having more baskets.
I don't know.
This is so dumb.
Let's just get to it.
This is really important.
I'm glad we covered it in this Easter season.
The movie we're covering today is called The East.
It's called Risen.
Risen, there it is.
Risen is the name of the movie.
2016, did I get that right?
You did.
Again.
Again, the club here, Christian Movie Club.
What we have done separately is we have consumed this film.
You can watch it on YouTube.
It's available for rent several places.
And they're sneaky.
Because when we committed to doing this movie,
it was available for free on Netflix.
And then I think they were like, you know, you know what's coming up?
People are gonna want to watch this.
So then they got rid of it from you.
So they moved it to where they could charge you per watch.
Yeah.
That's my theory.
But anyway, Risen is the movie we are reviewing today.
Tim, what do the people need to know about the movie?
Risen.
The people need to know that this is an hour 47 runtime.
But it is a Hollywood film.
It's a production.
So it's...
The quality is there that supports an hour 47 runtime.
Just saying.
I don't want to get into all of our ratings and stuff.
Yeah, totally.
But his movie was written and directed by Kevin Reynolds.
Also written by Paul Aiello.
Kevin Reynolds did a directed water world in the Hatfields and McCoy's.
And one of my personal favorites, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.
Ooh, Kevin Gossner.
With Kevin Gossner.
Wow.
This movie, Risen, had a gross of about $46 million.
Again, it's a budget of about 20 million.
So it's a good return on your investment.
Good job, everybody.
So this is a good one.
This film starts Joseph Fiennes.
I don't know if that's how you say his name.
As a clavius, he was a Fred Waterford in Hamades Tale.
He was in the Young Sherlock, the TV series,
enemy at the Gates, Shakespeare, and Love.
He was in the movie Elizabeth with Kate Blanchett back in 1998.
This movie also stars Tom Felton as Lucius.
And you may remember him from this little tiny film series called Harry Potter.
He was the legendary Draco Malfoy from Harry Potter.
He also started in the King.
And he was in a music video that featured Ed Sheeran.
That's what I've found.
I don't know Tom from the films.
I know Tom from the Broadway production of Harry Potter.
Good.
I actually, in reverse, found out he was in the movies.
Did he?
He didn't do.
He did.
He was in, I think it's called the Curse Child or whatever.
It's a Harry Potter.
Music caps.
No.
I don't even think it's a musical.
But it's on Broadway.
Okay.
Sometimes I can't tell when you're serious.
He was.
He was like, they're big reveals that he was in it.
I don't know anything about it.
Don't.
I'm just so classy is what I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
I didn't know the movies were even a thing.
Because I was just so into Broadway.
So I'm in the nose.
So classy.
You were shoes too.
Oh wait.
Is that, those are barefoot.
Nobody can see that.
I can.
I can see it.
Peter Firth as pilot.
He was in Wall and Order and the Vice.
He was also in Pearl Harbor and Amistad back in the day.
And hunt for red October.
He's got 100 acting credits.
Okay.
Let's go back to 1969.
Was he in the second Pearl Harbor?
Was he in the first one?
There you go.
Why?
Why?
Why do you challenge our friendship like this?
I'm the really bad one.
Oh.
Should I keep going?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
Cliff Curtis is Yeshua.
That's Jesus for the layman.
He is, he's done a ton of cool roles.
And you've seen him everywhere.
He's in the avatars movie.
He's in Meg and Meg too.
Yeah.
Columbia on a traffic training day.
I used to blow with Johnny Dapp.
He was in three kings back then.
Okay.
He was in the chosen as well.
So he's all over the place.
Funny enough, he doesn't, like, he's Jesus.
But he doesn't get much airtime.
No, he doesn't say much.
No, not at all.
Well, you don't, certainly don't see him say much.
Um, um, he's in the chosen.
Yeah.
That's kind of funny.
I wonder if he ever, like, looks to the guy playing Jesus
and is like, he's like, I don't know how I would do it.
You do your thing.
I don't know if he was Jesus in chosen.
He's definitely not Jesus in the chosen.
Let's check.
Um, Maria Botto as Mary Magdalene.
She was in hustle and mad dogs and a bunch of Spanish speaking movies
that I've never seen.
And Antonio Gill is Joseph of Arimathea.
And he was in quantum of solace and chocolate.
He said that right.
I know.
He has a very good job.
Yeah, it's big.
It's big time.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people you know, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot going on here.
But yeah.
A lot of, like, legitimate stars actors in here who have done a lot of work.
Like they, their experience.
They know what they're doing.
Uh, which is a little bit different than some of the movies that we happen to watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a really, really good podcast.
Right.
I laid off we had to pay to watch this one.
So we had that works out.
Um, give me a, uh, let's start this way.
Can I have a one line summary?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, the IMDB.
Or just the IMD.
Yeah.
Um, in 33 AD, a Roman Tribune in Judea is asked, is tasked to find the missing body of Jesus Christ,
who rose from the dead.
Hmm.
That's it.
Pretty straightforward.
33 A.D. really wrecks with my like, I was told A.D. is after death, but then you're like,
wait, but then wouldn't that be one?
You were told that by someone or you assumed that, because I was told that, but that's what
I believed.
I might have told you that when I was a kid.
You're like, it's 33 A.D. that would mean, right?
There's a 33 year period of nothing of aliveness, right?
There should be a third category.
There's B.C. there's also B.C.E. now.
Jesus Christ is alive and walking the earth.
Right.
33 year gap.
Sure.
A.C.I.A.
It's all, that's all zero.
That's all.
That's all zero time.
It doesn't count.
And then there's A.D.
It's where the kids are.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
Anno Domini, if you know you're Latin.
That's the Latin, right?
Yeah.
All right.
Give me some reviews.
So the reviews are like not all over the place, nothing too crazy.
We have one, says 10 out of 10, it's exceptional.
I have to start, it says, I have to start by saying it's a shame this film hasn't gotten
the acclaim that it deserves.
Why?
Because it is a film that has to do with a Christian religion.
And generally in today's society, these kinds of films aren't politically correct if you
know what I mean.
It's in here.
If you get what I'm implying.
And then he goes on to say, I am a Christian orthodox myself.
And I have to say that this movie touched me and moved me.
I don't know why he put touched in quotes.
But he says Joseph Fiennes is excellent.
And he should be very proud of his performance.
That is an Oscar-winning, winning performance in any other film.
But as I have said, because it is a religious film, it hasn't got him the praise that he
should got.
Sorry.
Overall, next, overall, next on the film.
There is any room for anyone to not get what he meant.
Yeah.
I think he was very on the nose with what he meant.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah.
Got it.
7 out of 10, pretty decent.
With most recent biblical movies that Hollywood has come out with, Noah and Exodus, the main
complaint, at least from a Christian viewer base, was that it didn't stick to the accuracy
of the Bible.
And this film they do.
So it has that going for it.
And if you're a Christian, that being said, if it's Friday night and you're looking
for a fun movie, then this probably isn't it.
He goes on to say, thankfully, this isn't another God's not dead where they smack you
in the face over and over again with how awesome Christians are and how terrible atheists
are.
Bottom line is, this movie is the very definition of good to me.
Not bad, but not great.
Just good.
Okay.
And then last one, 4 out of 10, uninspired faith film.
I was under the mistaken impression that this was a detective mystery set in Biblical
times where two Romans are tasked to investigate the death of Jesus.
Superficially, that is a premise of a story.
But rather than a detective mystery, it is more of a faith film.
People who were looking for a faith film would be more pleased with the film than I was.
Yeah.
It's honest.
I'm loving going through these reviews because there's some honesty in here.
Yeah.
Kind of tell a lot about people.
I think writing a review for me is one of those things like, if you are rocking a bumper
sticker on your car, you're a type of person.
Like it doesn't matter what that bumper sticker says, the fact that you were like, yeah,
I care enough about one single thing or even if it's a joke, I'm so committed to one
joke that I'll put it on the back of my car for however long I have this car.
I feel the same about reviewers.
You are either a person who leaves reviews and that's a type of person for movies or
you're not.
And so it's like getting a little glimpse into and it's helpful for like product reviews
or something.
For sure.
Okay.
This thing came in.
It's not the same color as it shows the pictures like fire beware.
But then this, the creative world, you're like, I wouldn't watch this because it makes
me and you know me pretty well because we're friends now.
So you should trust me if you know what I mean.
If you know, I don't know what you mean because I don't know you.
If you know what I mean, this is not the first time doing a review segment that somebody
has said, I thought this was something else and it wasn't.
And I'm just always like, okay, I don't know how to receive that unless you're saying,
I think they're like deliberately miss, miss directing you on like the marketing of
this film.
Right.
Like me and you thought it was a detective movie and like, I just didn't like, oh, I think
I maybe I wrote this before.
It's, I feel this way whenever somebody will say, we'll post something on Bible, it's funny
or something, do a meme.
And then we like, I thought you said, this will be a comment.
I thought you said blank when I first read it.
Right.
Okay.
But I didn't.
Then you knew that you read it.
Yeah.
And I never said that.
And I just thought that this was like a detective thing because Joseph Fiennes was in
sure.
Sure.
Sure lock.
Yeah.
Maybe that's maybe they got those transposed.
Could have been.
Yeah.
Maybe they were like, oh, I thought this was, this was like the follow up to Handmaid's
Tale.
And I just want everyone to know this movie is not connected to Handmaid's Tale.
Right.
That'd be a funny like persona to be like leaving movie reviews just like with we still
look full.
All right.
Now we have a little background on the film.
If you've never seen it, hopefully you have like a sense.
Again, this one you got to buy, I'll put the link to the YouTube section where you can
rent it.
It's $4.
We don't get any of that money.
That's not a sponsored deal.
It's just straight up $4.
But you can watch it if you want.
And then you can come back here and listen to the rest of the podcast or you can, you
can not.
We're going to do a minute to make that choice.
Before I do, let me say we are going to discuss this film.
We watched it separately.
We consumed it.
We're here today to discuss.
We don't know the people involved personally.
This is no reflection on any filmmakers' intention or purpose with any sort of accuracy.
Certainly, we don't know them.
We just watched the movie and we're going to come here together today to discuss.
So everybody be cool and I'm sure these people are nice and lovely.
I have no reason to think.
Tom Felton.
I've seen YouTube clips or Instagram clips and I think it seems nice.
So I'm going to keep my assumption there.
He was a nice drago.
We love it.
Okay.
So we're going to discuss the movie here in just a minute with spoilers.
If you want to watch it without spoilers, I'll give you a minute to head to that link
in the show notes and you can watch the film and then come together and discuss it where
you can just hang on for one second while our friends make their choices.
Let's give everybody an ample time.
Now.
Go ahead.
We're going to get a soft piano, music playing, just so as people decide.
Okay.
Here is a little bit more thorough synopsis so that everybody, if you didn't watch the
film just now, you've never seen it.
You'll be kind of up to speed on everything we're talking about.
This does have spoilers.
I'll say it again.
So just prepare yourself for that moving forward.
Pontius Pilate, tired of having his afternoon bath interrupted, has sentenced the troublemaker
Yeshoov Nazareth to be crucified.
The Sanhedrin, either a religious organization or an elaborately costumeed all boys Acapella
group, is very concerned that the body of this Yeshoov will be stolen and his followers
will declare him the long awaited Messiah.
And despite the highly trained drunken guards commissioned to protect the tomb, it appears
their worst fears are realized when the stone is found rolled away and the body of Jesus
is missing.
In an attempt to appease the Sanhedrin and thwart a potential riot, Pilate commissions
his best man and bath buddy to the case.
After a series of high stakes investigations or I'm sorry, after a series of high stakes
interrogations, grave robberies and a quick nap, Voldemort's brother and Lucius Malfoy
played by Draco, eventually discovered that the rumors are true.
Jesus is not dead, but has in fact, say it, risen, yes, think about that did let that
sinking.
Yeah, the Harry Potter connections were wild because did you pick up on that?
No.
So Joseph Finneus is related is the brother of a well, we say it, Finneus is, I don't know,
that's how we're going to say.
He's the brother of Ralph Finneus who plays Voldemort.
Oh.
Is that wild?
No, no, no.
Draco Malfoy is in this movie playing a character named Lucius, his father's name in Harry
Potter.
It's going to wild.
Wow.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
So really, if you ever want to watch Voldemort maybe come to Jesus, this is a close
you're going to get Tim, let's talk about the film, give me something that was shocking
to you about risen.
The opening like battle scene, like when he, they're going in, there's so much about
this battle scene that was like not impressive, but also shocking, but like you've got these
like Roman guards, like Centurion soldiers, whatever they called going up against a local,
you know, Hebrew people, whatever, like they're going at them with their weapons and their
swords and their spears and all these things and their shields.
And then the, the locals are going after them with like rocks and boulders, like they
have this cache of boulders evidently.
Yeah.
And they're bowling with the boulders at the Roman guards and like killing them dead.
And these boulders are not huge, they're, they're, I don't know, the size of my torso,
which is not big if you're listening huge flex, he's very trim.
And so they're just rolling these things and shockingly the guards who are like not really
struck by them, just dead, they're done, they get hit in the knees and they're done.
Yeah.
And then I was also shocked quite a bit, this, this goes on in the whole film.
There's a lot of like stabbing and slicing of the knees, like at the knee level.
That's right.
We're a lot of cutting, like taking swords and going like, yeah, and shove it in his knee.
And maybe that was the thing, maybe it was the thing I didn't know about, right?
But I was a bit shocked by all of this.
I think you've got to go where they don't expect you to go, right?
And it would make sense if you're really like this, right?
What's exposed when you're like this, you knees, and I knew there's like a thing, and
there's like actually a thing where like you want to like hurt the person instead of
kill them because if you hurt a soldier, then they have to, like then his buddies have
to carry him out.
But if you kill them, then they like, I'm wondering if that's what's going on with the
Romans.
If it's a little bit of like modern NBA where you're like, all right, if I go down, like
that's then they call it a foul, somebody's got to carry me, you know, if some of them
were dead, but some of them were maybe not dead.
And they were just like, oh, they injury, I'm really hurt by that rock that they threw.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get the shocking thing was being like the dramatic death that occurs when you get run
over by a boulder, like the size of my chest.
Yeah.
I mean, I was just kind of shocked by that whole opening sequence.
And historians actually put time into this and I don't mean to, you know, weigh recklessly
into those waters.
But I'm just like, what was like the long game plan here?
You're just going to throw some rocks at this like one little Roman outpost and you feel
like this ends well how, right?
Like it's not going to, there's like 12 of you guys.
You just slinging rocks, but it also looked like they were trying to like make that look
like a big battle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like they're trying to frame it.
Right.
So they're like, all you guys are in one picture, but you can see them all, you can see
where they stop.
You can see the whole battle and it just, I don't know.
Here's what I'll say.
I'm glad you brought it up because I did think it needed to be discussed.
I felt like we're going to talk this one out.
I think that's what kept hitting me.
I don't think we had to fight about this one.
No.
There's 10 of you.
There's 12 of us.
This is it.
We came here for that guy.
Why don't we just show you?
Yeah.
Oh, and then they take, um, Bravis.
Bravis.
And they straight up execute him.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, this might be a little to, oh, no.
Or Bravis, I guess.
Or maybe the theory would be that he was released during that and then he died a day
later.
Yeah.
We'll talk about all that by the hands of I'm sure Voldemort's brother.
Uh, something that we're shocking to me was the audacity, really, of the tribunal was
the clavius.
I think his name was called a lot of what people call him the tribunal during the movie.
Tribune.
Tribune.
Um, the audacity of the tribune to say that he helped roll the stone in front of the
tomb.
And you do have to see that they told us this in a shot.
I'm not being nitpicky.
They showed us his contribution and the stone, you need to follow with me.
The stone is going left to right.
And he's on the farthest right, like he's barely got his hands on it.
So what he's saying, his contribution was, was his fingers grabbing the side of a rock
and pulling towards him.
Yeah.
And then at another point, he recounts and says, it took nine of my men and me to move
that stone.
I helped.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I'm, I'm willing to bet it took five of your men that were actually had a position
and the others were doing the whole, like, you know, Wednesday night prayer meeting where
you're like, I'm touching a friend who's touching a friend.
I'm not actually contributing, but I support him here, I'm here in theory.
I just love that they actually showed.
They showed him and the grip he had and I was just immediately like that shocking that
in your recount, I, I feel like I would like to think I'm the type of guy who would be
like, yeah, I took a bunch of my guys to move it.
I was around.
I didn't.
I'm not going to give myself any credit for that.
But he did.
He did, in fact, give himself credit for that.
Good for him.
Uh, give me a character you wanted to see less of.
I, I said, Lucius, I drink all melphoy.
I, he wasn't, there wasn't too much there.
Like, he, especially right in the beginning is kind of when I wrote this, like, he just seemed
too eager.
He really wanted to help.
He was, yeah, he was very scrambly.
There's a lot of, a lot of these guys, but like, ambitious, but like a kid, like, I, I
just, yeah, what help?
I want to be here.
I want to, and he was like, all, like, like a puppy that kind of followed him around.
I, I could have done less of him.
He did, he reminded me a little bit of like, Jesse from Breaking Bad.
Um, like he's, but he would, but like this puppy that kind of just followed claviness
around.
Yeah.
I, I wondered as I was watching that, if like the actor Tom Felton, if this is just because
he's so known for Draco, and he, and he did such a good job, that if, if he's ever like
having meetings with his agent or whatever, and they're like, we got another script, he's
like, oh, cool.
Am I like a good guy, kind of a bootlicker that just does bad people tell me to do?
Well, yeah.
But it's set in the Renaissance.
Hmm.
I can do that.
What about the next one?
It's, but it's set in space.
Same character though.
Like is he is getting like, is he a little typecast now and then like, that's what you are
is you are the upwardly mobile, no morals kind of guy.
Yeah.
And he's like, and I get a paycheck for that too.
And then how much for this space one?
Okay.
Okay.
I can do that.
Um, character I wanted to see less of was British accents.
Now listen, there was a mix though.
There was an array.
Yeah.
And that's what threw me.
Uh-huh.
Here's a quiet concession we've made in life.
Movie set in the past, right?
Nobody.
This may come as a shock to some.
We might lose followers over this.
We might lose followers over this.
I'm sorry.
I have to say.
No one was speaking English in this scene.
Nobody was speaking English.
These was not a, not a person in the actual crucifixion of Jesus.
That was speaking English.
American moviegoers, we want to see people talk in English.
Of course.
We're not trying to do the subtitles thing.
We did it first quit games.
That was a one off thing.
I did not.
Don't be making us do that.
Uh, but you know what I'm saying.
We want to see people say, so how do we, how do we justify the two?
It's British English.
Now it's old timey, but it's English.
So we can track with it.
That's a weird thing.
We've just all agreed on it.
I don't know really when we all sign that contract, but it's just like it's set in ancient
China.
Everyone's speaking British English because it's just, it's old timey, but you can understand
it.
And where they lost me was the, was the range.
When we're not only doing that, but somebody's got like a Courtney accent.
Oh, I'm roaming so jaw, I'm going to doom.
Now you stop it.
What are we doing with this?
This is, this has got to stop.
Well, then there's like Spanish accents in there.
It's all over the place.
I can't, I can't do a rage.
If you're going to commit and just do like sort of a Shakespeare wash of like whatever.
Everybody speaks British English.
Move on.
And I do.
And my brain connects it and I just go whatever.
It's fine.
It started.
I think someone had a Scottish and I was like, yeah, cut it.
Cut it.
Stop this.
Commit to everybody talks one way that's not realistic.
You can't all talk and do face that are all not realistic.
I was, I was having a hard time with the accents.
I think that's fair.
I had another one we are, we were yet again.
I have to put it as a note because it's just become my little soap box.
We do not know for sure that Mary Magdalene was a sex worker.
You're right.
And again, we did it again.
And it's, it's a conflation of multiple characters.
I actually end up doing more research on point because I'm like, am I going to double
down on this take and they're drawing some connections.
I just, it's just not a slam dunk.
It's at best you could say it's a maybe.
I mean, I don't think it takes away from the story.
I don't think it adds.
It does add a little bit to the story for her to be in that role.
And they're trying to do the thing that's explicit is that Mary Magdalene had demons cast
out of her, which I understand is a harder and weirder space in which to enter into a story.
I get it.
It's like a little bit more straight line to be like, she was living a life that was like
this and then she became a follower of Jesus.
It just a little bit everything.
It'd be like, I feel like for some, it would be like, oh, did you know Jesus's dad was
actually not a carpenter?
We just made that up and rocked with it forever.
It's like, well, why do we do that?
Like, that's an odd choice.
We have, we have reason to believe that that one's true.
But that was my little, was all my other little earthquake.
Why are you, what were you, you're trying to say something to me with your eyes?
I'm just, just you're hung up on this and it doesn't like it.
I know that.
I've got that for the last couple of movies we want.
And I don't like it because here's it is.
The reason for it is there's more than one Mary and you all are just not wanting to put
more than one female character in the movie.
So maybe that's my thing.
It's just own it.
Yeah.
Just own it.
You're merging them all together because you're like, ah, I don't want to say there was
more than one woman following Jesus.
That would be crazy.
So if anybody out there wants to offend Anthony, you know how?
This is my soap box.
This is the one.
A character that you want to see more of him.
I really liked the guards.
The two guards.
Yeah, they were great.
And then when they when they get to the point where he's interviewing like the drunk one in
in the, like in the bar pub, he did such a good job of delivering that story like the
concept was he, like the two guards are there.
They're kind of forgotten about because they're supposed to be guarding the tomb.
They don't really expect anything.
It's going to be happening.
Like, they don't think Jesus's followers like his disciples are going to come and be violent
towards them and steal the body or something.
Like they, they, they are aware that like that's not going to happen.
So they're out there, they wait by the, by the, the stone, they're sitting at the entrance
of it.
Like it's, they're always going to move it.
They get it and they don't have any food.
So then they start, they have like a little thing of wine and they start drinking it.
Um, well, then it all happens.
And the concept is like this phenomenal extraordinary, ah, supernatural event occurred where this
angel like busted open the, the, you know, the move the stone and busted the ropes and
like, got, Jesus, got out.
And like they're, they're told to like, got out.
They were told to, to like lie about, lie about the story to like discredit who Jesus
was.
And, um, and they, they were paid off to do that.
And then like, sort of in that shame and in that, like they're trying to wrestle with
that story.
They witnessed a thing that was supernatural and phenomenal.
Yeah.
Um, and then, but then they're having to sort of live a life to, to say that they didn't
see that thing.
And so they're really conflicted.
And this dude's just drunk in the bar trying to like just quiet the noise.
I'm sure.
Right.
But he does such a really good job of selling that.
And like you see the fear in him and like, he doesn't know what he just saw.
He doesn't know what he's just experienced.
And he's like trying to drown it in his wine.
Um, but I, yeah, I thought he nailed it.
There are, I, one of my favorite things about movies is like, there's moments where you
do sort of like get lost, you know, I, I would say I do that more like dialogue scenes
where I like didn't breathe for a while because I was like to like, what do you, you just
get like super locked in.
And they like, I would say in full genuine, not asterisked.
They did that.
Like that was a cool conceptual.
You are a Roman soldier.
You don't know what this is about.
You never asked for this.
I thought, yeah, that's a cool thought exercise.
Like what would that be like talking with that person?
Obviously he's being pulled in different directions, trying to say you did see something
you didn't see something or.
And even like there was a moment where the guy, the clavius guy, he goes like, I think
you were, I think you were drunk.
I think the wine was tainted.
And he was like, like, please tell me that's it.
Like, almost like I would love for that to be the answer.
Yeah, I agree with you.
That was great.
Character I wanted to see more of was the disciple Andrew.
Oh.
And it was one specific scene that made me fall in love with him.
They were, they're on the, they're on the, on the beach on the shores of Galilee.
And he approaches Peter and he says, hey, the guys are hungry and the guys, the guys want
me.
And I just was like immediately like, I want a whole run of Andrew pending his own interests
on other people because he was just quick to be like, they're hungry, they're, they're
hungry.
And so, you know, the guys are really warm to like just kind of, we wanted to move to
the shade.
We were, they were wondering if we could all, if they could go to the shade and hang out
with the, in the orchard.
The guys are wondering, there's a wrestling match back home by, it starts at seven.
The guys are wondering if we're going to be back in time.
We're going to leave now.
We can make it.
The guys have an uncle that works at the venue and he got them tickets.
The guys do.
And the guys want to know if we'll be back in time because the guys think this is just
like, the guys are saying they haven't been able to do something fun in a while.
So that's what the guys are saying.
Yeah, I liked Andrew.
I liked the disciples in this movie to be honest with you.
I did the same.
I just thought it was, I liked Peter like, pretty right away.
I was like, yeah, that's good.
Good vibes coming from that, that character in the story.
Uh, give me a character that reminded you of me.
Now, this was a, this was a toss up between my favorite character and character reminds
me of you.
Uh, and it was, it was Bartholomew like, I loved him.
Yeah, what's, what's funny is that my first note, as soon as I saw him, you, you hear
him talk.
I was like, he reminds me of a hobbit.
Yeah.
He, he seems like, like, Pip, he seems like a Mary, like one of, one of those.
That's secondary.
Oh, chipper.
Yeah.
But real like fun, lovable, likable, uh, yeah, I just really liked him.
And I was like, he's, like, he would have been my favorite if not for the like superior
acting performance in, like, a small little bit of the other, uh, of the Roman guard.
But yeah, he was really fun, like, um, well, I'll take that for sure.
Thank you.
Uh, my character for you was kind of easy and it was clavius, the main guy.
I just thought I was like, honestly, if Tim was not so funny, I, I think this is kind
of exactly what he'd be like, I think he'd be just real serious, nice, like clavius had
this like, he's cynical about everything pretty much, but he's also nice, like he's, he
shows, uh, mercy in a couple instances in the movie, um, uh, they, they definitely like
endure you to him.
You know, there's a term for that, by the way, it's a film school term.
What's that?
I can't win a character, saves the cat.
Well, do you ever hear that before?
I'll save a rat, but not a cat.
Here's a little fun fact for you when you're watching a movie and, uh, like, uh, uh, uh,
it seems like maybe a gruff or rough around the edges character, they'll have the character
save a cat, and there, there could be anything, but something that shows you they have a tender
side.
So often times in like the first act, they'll save a cat.
Oh, that's like last of us with Pedro Pascal.
That's right.
Yeah.
The great example.
So, uh, they did that with him and he was kind at the crucifixion of Jesus and he was
kind, you know, in a couple, a couple of areas that you were like, oh, it got soft
time.
But he was also mysterious and brooding and a little funny, but not like, actually funny,
but that's why I was like, if you were not funny, you'd be exactly like, well, thanks.
I'll take that.
All right.
Give me your low point in the film.
Um, I, I didn't think there was a ton of low points, like, I didn't have a ton of
like super high points here.
We'll get to that.
But like, yeah.
But not a ton of low points, like, there wasn't anything too, just too crazy.
But some of the, to me, some of the like mystical pieces they tried to put together, um,
like when the, the leper gets healed, it sort of seemed like there was almost like this
mystique and magic and that's what they were setting up and just the delivery of it flopped
in my opinion.
Like, you got a guy who, like, you, you only see him in a distance with like a face full
of lepercy, whatever you call it.
And then, and you see like his face is distorted and there's stuff that's messed up.
And then, and then the next shot, like after Jesus touches him and heals him, uh, which
was a cool scene, by the way.
Yeah.
Um, then the next shot you see of him, it's, it's, uh, it's clavius looking at him and
he like turns around and looks at clavius and he's just got like a clean face.
Sorry.
Um, and you're like, okay, cool.
But then they hung on that shot of this guy, like we're supposed to recognize this guy.
Oh, you didn't recognize him?
Didn't.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, he was Octavius.
Like, like you're supposed to know who this guy is and then, and then it goes back to
another shot of him, like, uh-huh.
But you, I would have imagined they could have, again, they made this sort of scene mysterious.
They could have put some special effects in there or something.
Um, the, the other, another moment, uh, with that was when, um, when, when Jesus ascends
back into heaven and there's like, uh, the sound effects of like a SpaceX rocket going
off and Jesus shoots off into the sun, like, he's Superman or something.
Uh, that was a little, uh, a little hokey for me.
So that was a little bit of a low point.
And like it was snowing after he left.
Yeah.
I actually did like that.
Like, if there's, if we're talking about mystery and who knows what happens and we, you,
as a kid growing up in church, you hear the story of ascension, yeah, into the heavens
and the ascension is just Jesus floating and floating.
And eventually you see Jesus float away like a balloon that you'd like go at your birthday.
And then you just can't see him anymore.
And there's got to be some sort of anti-climactic, like, okay, he's a long ways away now.
I can still see him.
Right.
So long do we wait here and watch him go away?
Yeah.
So they kind of went past that, whatever that is.
Like that was a thing that I had in my head.
Jesus ascended into heaven.
Yeah.
And then he just floated until we couldn't see him anymore, like a balloon.
Um, and this, they took a liberty and basically showed him shooting into the sun, but then,
but then the mystery of like, you know, there's the light that flashes at the same time.
Yeah.
And then there's this floating stuff that floats away.
Like, I was cool with that stuff, I don't know if it was, well, I mean, but it was the
space rocket sound, kind of, um, yeah, low-hooky.
Right.
And yeah, I mean, it's just, yeah, it's going to be a taste issue, a constantly, right?
Because it's like, we don't just think of no, when you read something like that, that
could be portrayed a billion different ways, yeah, but then being like, kind of space,
I didn't connect space rocket, but it's a good way to say it.
Like it was, but that was the sound effect.
It was the sound and the, and the sort of whoosh of the, right, shout out to Dan from
Frisbee.
Um, that was, uh, yeah, yeah, it was definitely a whoosh.
It was a whoosh that was, that was happened there.
Um, gosh, now I just, I was kind of just like torn on that whole moment and now, and I'm
even now conflicted.
I don't even really even still kind of processing a little bit.
Um, my low point was, um, it actually, I think in the conversation, I was just praising
a minute ago.
But he's, he's saying something and he's like, he's like, it was like, just like, coming
out of the doom is like the sun rose in the doom because of the lie.
And he just was one little that I just was like, boy, we're on the nose.
Mm-hmm.
Did you catch what I said about the sun?
Asked me, I will spelled it.
Like, all right, we got it.
You did it.
You did it.
All right.
It's good.
It's good.
It's good.
I'm very sensitive.
My wife is quick to talk to me, but I was knowing I don't watch movies with it.
It takes one line for me, and I'm like, too far.
And you had full Jason Statham on that one.
I see how he was joking.
He was.
Um, a high point, uh, the high point for me that I actually, I legit laughed and I wasn't
supposed to laugh at this.
Yeah.
Um, you know, I suppose to laugh at anything in the movie.
No, no, but I laughed and so if I laughed, that becomes the high point because that's
who I am.
Uh, when, when pilot says to clavius at one point, uh, after he had gone to like, uh, he,
well, anyway, he, he had gone to like, uh, one of his like fallen comrades, um, had, like,
had a funeral and they like burnt the men on, on the pyre.
Um, and, and so he's like, sad about his friend leaving.
He goes and attends this, this service or whatever, whatever you might call it.
And then, uh, he clavius comes back and he was meeting with pilot and pilot goes, you
smell of meat feasts like, did you have a feast and he just goes, no funeral.
And that like, uh, uh, uh, uh, that's not meat.
That's burnt people.
Right.
Oh, I wonder if it did smell a little bit good.
Yeah.
You smell like barbecue human like that got me, I laughed and that was my high point.
Yeah.
That was funny.
Um, I am a little shocked though, because I thought for sure we were going to have the
same one.
Um, my high point was just how excited Peter was to fish.
Like the guy like, I like the concept.
You read the Bible story, you know, presented on the words, a little flat, you're like,
we was a fisherman, then he found his real purpose.
And I like the introduction to the story that like, what if he liked to fish?
I have a hunch that since the dawn of time, fishing has been for dudes, both a necessary
and a recreational thing.
I was curious about that scene in general, just because there were boats laying around
and they're like, let's fish, let's fish like he leaves, but also, who leaves their
boat there for some, where they, it was at their boat, because they just shared as a boat
rent like a boat sharing system, you know what I mean, he signed it out.
Because they had the notion to go to Galilee.
I don't know that they left like, would you just leave your boat there with the nets in
the boat?
I don't know.
I was again, just curious about it.
Yeah.
I was funny to watch them run into the water with their skirts up.
They're so excited.
And he says it twice.
Like he says it initially.
They're like, we're hungry.
And he's like, well, let's fish.
And then they get out there and they're doing some stuff and they're like, you're, he's
like, they're like getting tired because they have a guy.
He's like, let's fish.
Like he fires him back up like this.
I like this.
I like this.
Has an idea.
Peter just loves to fish.
That's, he, he's like, I, you know, there's people make a little bit of the story that he
kind of like goes back to fishing as like maybe his like default.
Like he kind of thought the whole thing had fallen apart and he was falling back on
his previous career.
And my new take is going to be like the guy just like to fish.
Probably the rest of his life.
He was always like, all right, guys, we just had this great sermon and the, the Holy Spirit
fell at Pentecost and like, do you think we could get to the lake?
Get a little sush.
Is that great?
No.
Does everybody want to do that?
No.
Maybe just me.
We don't have to.
Andrew's like, the guys were saying they wanted to feed.
Guys, guys, we're all talking about it.
That's fish.
It sounds like I'm exaggerating that with that, he screams it.
Screams, let's fish.
The guy loves to fish.
All right.
Give me your final review on risen.
Final review and rating.
I give this movie, it's, it's a solid four.
I think like production value is there.
It's, it's good.
You've got talented actors in this film.
Like everybody's really good.
Mary's good.
Jesus good.
Like, yes.
They're like everybody's good.
Everybody does their part.
There's a little bit of cheesiness in there.
Like I said, the kind of the special effects stuff, the, you know, Jesus taking off like
a rocket.
And then like some of these lines trying to fit a lot of notable like Jesus' moments
into the film, like kind of cram them in there.
It was a point where like the, the one centurion guard was all shaken at the beginning
and he's like, what, you see me thrown off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's like, he's a crucifixion.
Yeah.
And he's like, I don't know.
I don't, I don't know what to make of it.
And they're like, well, why not?
What's going on?
What's going on with you?
And he goes, well, he just stood there and said, it is finished.
What does that mean?
And then like, it just over and over these like little lines like that.
Like, let me fish on the other side of the boat.
Like, let's get that line in there.
And then let's get this line in there and let's get that like, okay, you could have
cut half of those and not made it seem so forced that you're trying to get this information
in here.
Yeah.
Little one lines are like notable moments.
Right.
So you're pandering to the, I think Bible reader, the experienced Bible people that go,
oh, yeah, that was there.
I remember that.
That's right.
I remember that from Sunday school.
Yeah.
You got to like a significant cameo from the shroud of touring where they're like looking
over and over again.
It didn't really add to the story, but you just like made it very visible and focal.
Mm-hmm.
You're like, yeah, no, that's, that's right.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
I didn't have it at 4.2.
Not 4.2.
Like, I had it at 4 as well.
Well made movie.
Interesting.
Like, idea of like kind of starts out trying to disprove it and stumbles there or nothing
like no, no representation of Jesus or the Christian faith that made me like, you know,
recoil.
Like, oh, that's yucky.
It was just kind of like.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
A hundred percent.
And there was a lot of like, you know, afterward when they're like sharing the gospel, they're
talking about the good news.
They're talking about like a new way of being in a new way of doing life and I appreciated
that.
Yeah.
It's like a new, it was a new concept and they were just sharing that like, this is what
we've learned.
This is what Jesus taught us.
They dropped the line at one point like, I don't even know why the Romans are that interested
in them.
Like, he wasn't, he wouldn't, he had no interest in y'all.
Like, he'd give to Caesar what a Caesar is what he told us as the, I think, Bartholome
he says.
So it was like, yeah, I mean, I think you, you kind of did it.
You kind of nailed it.
I think it's interesting to see like the institution.
It's an interesting thought to think of like Rome as this like empirical institution and
what they would have thought of Jesus, like what they would have made this whole thing.
I think this is probably kind of close.
Like I think it probably starts as a regional like, we don't want things to get out of hand.
We don't really care.
We're doing our own thing and then you're like constantly just kind of trying to keep
it at bay.
Well, and I liked the, you know, they kind of brought that back like the, the Roman piece
of it that the Romans kind of didn't care either, but they were so in cahoots are connected
with the, the religious leaders of the time that they were the ones that were really concerned
and the religious leaders were saying, hey, this undermines our, our power structure that
we have.
Yeah.
And so we need you to take care of this.
Otherwise, we're not going to help you.
Not that that would ever happen nowadays.
Not that there's ever any political influence from a particular sect of any religion, religious
group on politics in any country like the United States of America that wouldn't happen,
but we can just imagine, we can use our imaginations and see what that would have been like and
you can see it in the film.
Maybe you can.
I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where that, yeah, whereas a political institution,
a religious institution would be kind of struggling to make Jesus fit into like terms
that worked for them the most advantageously, I'm struggling to imagine it.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, what will take some time?
You're saying I get that you can picture it.
And I think because of the two of us, you've always had the better imagination.
I think you're just a, you're just a dreamer.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that sounds like me.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not.
And that's risen.
I use a solid movie.
You can have this to your Easter rotation.
It's fine.
Do people have that?
Less.
If you are in the same movie, over and over for Easter, the passion of the Christ, but you
would like less in Black Easter, I forget about Black Easter, that we reviewed last year.
We should put out a, like, top five Easter Christian movies, you know, that you got
to watch.
Are there more than five?
I'm at three right now, and that's almost five.
It was called Pilgrim's Progress.
Oops.
Jesus dies in that one.
Nope.
Nope.
Yeah.
If you like, if you like, passion of the Christ a little less graphic, then you may be
into this.
That's fine.
I mean, I think you could tell, like Tim said at the beginning, they sort of like got
their PG-13.
It was another note I wrote down, it's like, you got that PG-13 rating five minutes in,
like, yeah, by showing some deaths in the, in a battle.
With the boulders.
Because, look out for the boulders.
Yeah.
A lot of people don't realize that bowling was originally like a military, it was human
process.
That's what I'm saying.
It was originally used for, for attacking, and then they were like, well, there's less
wars.
And this could still be fun.
Like, we should spare him.
Strike the rest.
Oh, gross.
He split him.
Ew.
Ew, barbecue.
That's it.
That's risen.
We took us 140, or an hour and 40 minutes, we figured out, Jesus is risen.
Good news.
That's it for Christian movie club today.
Yeah.
Do you have any other Christian movie suggestions?
Please send them at the Bible, it's funny.
We'll check them out.
We got some maybe, maybe we'll check them out, maybe no guarantees.
We did get some, I just sent Tim a suggestion yesterday.
That was, wow.
Oh, that was, was that a, that was, that came from a person.
It was, you guys are in the depths of 2B, and I love you for it.
Um, again, I'm Anthony, that's Tim, Bible's funny hats, and Bible's funny card games
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Um, and we'll be back here another, uh, podcast real soon.
Okay?
We'll talk to you then.
Okay.
Bye.
Everybody.
