Christopher Wyze of Christopher Wyze & The Tellers

Viscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians.

These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to progressive

and save hundreds.

Because progressive offers discounts for paying in full, owning a home, and more, plus

you can count on their great customer service to help when you need it so your dollar goes

a long way.

Visit progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.

If casualty insurance company and affiliates, potential savings will vary, not available

on all states or situations.

If you want better internet, Cox's internet of 300 megas has the speed, fast, and

reliable speeds.

Perfect for streaming and gaming and working from home.

All for only $45 per month when you add Cox's mobile, including the Wi-Fi equipment

and the price guarantee of two years in your plan.

Don't wait, change today to Cox.

Requires Cox's mobile, including the price guarantee, including the price and

the speed of the mobile data, after 20 months.

Welcome back to the chat about Redux Podcast, I'm Nick and I'm your host and today our

special guest is Christopher Wise.

This is Nick and Sue, a chatterbox giving you all you need to know about music on the

table.

Oh yeah, chatterbox, the best interview with Nick and Sue, the best news and reviews for

you on chatterbox.

And now in chatterbox, we're just lucky enough to welcome Christopher Wise.

Christopher, welcome to chatterbox.

How are you, sir?

I'm good, Nick.

How are you doing?

I'm good, thank you.

I'm good, yeah.

Yeah, we're good.

I'm looking forward to summer, so roll it on.

Yeah, that's what we want here.

And they run the South Coast.

It's beautiful.

So yeah, bring it on.

One of the, yeah, we're in one of the few places in the South Coast where in July, you

get dolphins and purposes, which you don't get in English much.

So we get right off where we are on the sea from here, so looking forward to it.

There you go.

Yeah, I'm right in the middle of the US, you know, and we don't get any of that stuff.

There's no water.

There's hardly a hill.

It's just kind of boring.

So I'm kind of dreaming about what it looks like where you are today, Nick.

But what you're going to have to do, you're going to get yourself home to the UK again and

have to do a tour and you can have to make sure you come to the South Coast because we are

only 35 miles from Brighton, which is big city, very vibrant city.

So if you don't come to Hastings where I am, come to Brighton, you know.

I'm going to put that on my very short invitation list.

I don't have a lot of invitation.

It's a place to be.

I can't now.

I'm reading a bit about you and quite interesting.

I mean, I love the song you brought out like for Valentine's and that sounds really good.

I've been playing it a little bit.

However, normally I would be putting chatting to people about their careers, how they made it,

how they didn't make it, where they've been.

But you didn't get into a studio until you tell us, was it 65 or something?

Yeah, I think I was right out about 65 when I went to a studio to make my first record of the song of mine.

And this is not 1965.

This is 1965.

That's very good.

I could have been, you're looking at me, if people would see me, they would know that.

But yeah, you know, I went off and I had a different world and a different career and a different life.

And I did music on the side and sang in bands, you know, cover bands.

And through a crazy set of circumstances was convinced to write my own music.

And we did and we made a record and it took off.

I had no idea what would happen.

I had no plans for what to do at the record other than, at that point in my life,

I wanted to make the record and we made the record.

And when I was done, I was like, we did it.

But that's when it all started.

That's the crazy thing.

I thought the goal had been achieved.

The thing had just started.

It was crazy.

Okay, so you do that.

I mean, basically the recording studio thing was that was based on some poems that you'd written.

So turned them into songs.

We called them a songs, I believe.

And when was that?

Was that last year?

When did you do that?

Well, I actually went into the studio in 2022.

I think it was May of 2022.

And sort of my little backstory behind it, if you wanted.

You know, I had been in cover bands and we were more bluesy than anything.

So I really kind of got into the blues.

I discovered the blues by being a blues singer.

I mean, that's where I got to it.

You know, I got into these guys and they're playing all these blues classics.

These key to the highway and, you know, on and on it goes.

And it's like, man, I got to get into this.

And I did.

And I got into it big time.

So one of the things I wanted to do was do more than sing.

I wanted to play the harmonica.

So I picked up a harmonica.

And I actually went to a harmonica camp in Clarksdale, Mississippi.

And if you and I went down to Clarksdale, Mississippi today, Nick,

there would be a bunch of people from the UK there.

It is, really, it's the center of where the blues began.

Right there in the Mississippi Delta.

So I went for a week to work on blues harmonica.

Believe it or not, you can go there and stay for a week and work on the blues harmonica.

And I met a guy who became great friend, mentor, co-writer and producer, Ralph Carter,

there who was an instructor.

Ralph was kind of rock and roll royalty in his younger days.

He wrote songs and toured and was tour musical director with Eddie Money.

It was a great rock and roll back in the 80s.

And somehow I'm in this setting in the Mississippi Delta, drinking in the blues,

and probably drinking an adult beverage with this guy, Ralph Carter,

who tells me after a few days at the camp, hey man, you can do this.

It was almost like, hey kid, you can do this.

Well, I'm like 60 years old, but he was like, hey little buddy, you can do this.

And I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, you can do this, man.

You got to start writing your own stuff.

And blah, blah, blah.

He said, we're going to make a record one day.

I said, I'd love to be on your record.

He goes, no, we're making your record.

And I'm like, okay, fine.

So I go home, I go back to my world.

I'm an advertising guy.

That's what I was.

I own an ad agency.

And I was a writer.

I've been a writer forever.

I've got five books in print.

I've written millions of words that people have paid me to write.

And so I'm a writer.

But I never written a song.

And so Ralph said you got to start writing songs.

And one day I read an article about a new studio in Muscle Shoals

that this guy had bought this old mansion and kind of refurred it into a recording studio

where the band can stay for the week.

And a way to go.

And so I snapped a picture of it.

I texted it to Ralph.

He's out in near Los Angeles, California, you know, way out on the West Coast.

I'm here kind of on the eastern part of the U.S.

And I said, hey, man, here's who we're going to make our record.

I, to be honest, I was, it was a joke.

And he said, yeah, it looks good.

When, when do we record?

And he went, I could tell he wasn't kidding.

And I went back to him and I was like, Ralph, I don't have any songs written.

And he goes, well, you better get started.

Yeah.

So we talked.

And I mean, I think it was 12 weeks later.

I met him again in Mississippi.

I picked him up at the airport in Memphis, Tennessee.

Great music spot in the, in the U.S.

We drove 90 minutes to Clarksville, Mississippi.

We sat there for three days on a picnic bench with a pile of lyrics.

I had written maybe 15 or 20 songs in those 12 weeks.

And they were just words on paper at that point.

You said poems.

I would, I would say, no, probably more lyrics.

But, and, and we sat there and made them into songs and recorded them on my iPhone,

little demos.

And Ralph was the music, you know, brilliance and genius.

You know, I contributed to the words.

And then we collectively worked on it together and improved both sides of it.

And at that point, he said, I'll produce the album.

I'll do it in Muscle Shoals.

I, well, in fact, I think I had already booked a recording time before he and I ever

met to make them into songs.

It's like, look, I'm 65 years old.

I have to do this.

I'm not sure why, but I have to do it.

And so, we took those demos, he auditioned, studio musicians.

He wrote charts.

We showed up on a Monday morning.

We got there actually Sunday night.

But Monday morning, I met the band.

I didn't know these guys.

I didn't know how you do a recording session.

I didn't know what I would do.

Ralph said, don't worry about it.

I'll handle it.

You just stick with me, friend.

And he's a very unassuming man.

And I was like, I trust you.

I trust you.

And a week later, you know, at the end of the week, we walked out of there with our records.

I didn't have a name.

My band didn't have a name.

I didn't have a name as a performer.

And so I had this record.

And then through some crazy circumstances got connected with a record label in Memphis, Tennessee.

And they signed us a big radio records.

Sam Phillips is nephew.

The great Sam Phillips of son studios and some records.

He started a company called Selecto Hits, run today by Johnny Phillips, who also runs the big radio records label.

And he signed me to a record deal to put out this album called Stuck in the Month.

This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox.

Giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment.

Oh, yeah, it's Chatterbox.

Chatterbox.

Chatterbox.

Finding a hoodie that lasts through the season can be tough.

The American Giant Classic Fullsip hoodie is made to last a lifetime so you can count on it year after year.

The iconic Classic Fullsip hoodie is the jacket that started it all for American Giant.

Custom heavyweight fleece and side panels for mobility make it the best hoodie ever.

Every American Giant piece is made in America and designed to last.

No exceptions.

The result is durable clothing like the premium slub crew tee, no BS high rise pant and slim rough neck pant.

They become part of your life.

Snag the hoodie that will bring you comfort for life.

The American Giant Classic Fullsip.

Save 20% off your first order at american-giant.com when you use code staple20 at checkout.

Shatterbox.

Finding a hoodie that lasts through the season can be tough.

The American Giant Classic Fullsip hoodie is made to last a lifetime.

So you can count on it to bring you comfort and warmth year after year.

The iconic Classic Fullsip hoodie is the jacket that started it all for American Giant.

Custom heavyweight fleece and side panels for mobility make it the best hoodie ever.

And a double-lined hood and reinforced elbow patches means this hoodie will last.

Born from a commitment to support the communities that create its products,

every American Giant piece is made in America and designed to last.

No exceptions. The result is durable clothing like the premium slub crew tee,

no BS high rise pant and slim rough neck pant that become part of your life.

Snag the hoodie that will bring you comfort for life.

The American Giant Classic Fullsip.

And save 20% off your first order at american-giant.com when you use code staple20 at checkout.

That's american-giant.com code staple20.

Shatterbox.

This is Bired Winthrop, founder of American Giant.

I started this company because I was fed up with cheap clothes that didn't last

and companies that shipped manufacturing overseas.

We believed we could still make incredible clothing right here in the US

with American cotton and American workers earning real wages.

That's what we stand for.

Making clothes that actually last get 20% off your first order when you use code giant20

at american-giant.com.

The funny thing in is I'm bouncing around Nick,

but when I was on my way down to pick up Ralph at the airport in Memphis,

this was for us to take my lyrics and try to make them into songs.

I looked down at my GPS of my Ford Explorer SUV that every American drives, right?

So I'm looking down there and I'm like, where in the heck am I?

And it's like three hours from Memphis.

So I'm three hours from Memphis.

I'm like, oh man, that's a song.

And so the first song on our record is that we, our first debut album is three hours from Memphis.

So I'm in the car there and I have this idea about this guy.

You know, it's fictional.

He's going to Memphis.

He's going to meet some big record guy and he's going to be a star.

So that was kind of what the song was about.

So I'm in the car.

And I mean, in a flash, I had the idea in my head for the song.

The whole song, every bit of it, the way the song worked, the story.

And I was like, I was like scared.

I was like, I don't want to stop driving.

I'm in this groove.

And so I reached over and grabbed a little, a notepad.

I have a notepad that has a little piece of paper like this.

That might even be some of the lyrics.

And I wrote the song on the little console as I was driving down the road at 65, 70 miles an hour.

And I remember, you know, it took me about an hour and I had the song done just on these little scraps of paper.

And then two days later we made it into a song, 12 weeks later we recorded it.

And the funny thing is Nick, that song, I didn't realize it was autobiographical.

It was about me.

I wrote about meeting a guy, a music man in Memphis.

I didn't know anybody in Memphis.

And I got introduced to a guy in Memphis long after the album was made.

So the story of the song played out in my life.

But I wrote it before it happened.

And I didn't know it.

I mean, you talk about bizarre.

And so now when I get an inkling about music or somebody says, would you be interested in doing this?

I just say yes because I'm not sure what it's about.

But I'm sure not going to say no.

So there you go.

That's the right side.

If you can predict things that well, I'd like the lottery numbers for Saturday plays.

Can you do that?

That's a good prediction, wasn't it?

Oh, love it.

It was.

That's what you like.

That's wonderful how that works out.

That's wonderful.

Yeah, it did.

And so there we had this album and I did it unlike other people.

Other people, you know, they have a band, they go around, they play little gigs.

Yeah.

And backyards.

And then bigger gigs and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then they write their own music and then they get a record.

Well, I did it exactly the opposite.

I did a record.

And then we got it out there.

So we did it the opposite.

Because, you know, Nick, I couldn't have done it any other way because am I going to do that?

It's starting at age 65, start and play little gigs.

Now I was in a band.

We don't cover band.

We did festivals, not big festivals, little things, wine festivals, beer, beer things.

You know, we had a lot of fun with it, but it wasn't going to get us anywhere.

So I had to get the record out there and that traveled out and got us going.

It traveled for us.

Wonderful.

Let's move you to 2025.

It looks like it was quite a good year for you.

Pretty good.

Yeah.

So we were talking about the Roots Music Reports.

Top 100 Blues albums of 2025.

Now, look at all this out there, turning out stuff like that.

However, you were the only artist to have had two albums on that 2025 chart.

And it's up 100.

Yeah.

I mean, again, really?

It's crazy.

You look at the names on that.

They're all the blues acts, you know.

And I'm the only artist that got two of them in there.

So it was my debut album.

And then I did a follow-up album, which was a live album, because I had to keep stuff going.

I'm not out touring.

I'm not out in front of fans.

So I said, let's do a live album and just put it out there.

We'll record.

We'll do the first album.

We'll record it as a show.

And we did.

And so then the second album does well.

And as you say, both of them ended up, which is crazy.

Albums.

I don't.

I'm new to the whole business, but I don't think they hang around that long.

That's why it's so unusual to have two albums that would land in the top 100.

One of them, I think, somewhere in the 20s and one of them down in the 90s.

But one of them was a new album.

One of them was a year old.

And it's still hanging around there.

Yeah.

To be honest with you, my albums in general, and various charts,

would it be a top, like, might be the billboard 200 albums,

or it could be the UK top 100 albums?

I have experience.

I think the albums that are lower down, hang around much longer.

The peak is so slow.

It's a bad thing.

It's just bubbling out the top 20 or the top 30.

It's not actually a bad thing.

Not if you're hanging around for a year.

It's not, is it?

And I do believe that.

The lower down albums.

The ones that don't.

You know, you've got albums that have got some money behind them.

And let's just speak.

Oh, it's no better watch artist.

It could be this one we're talking about.

It could be on the billboard chart.

Really?

It has a push from a record company.

It has that big hit.

It's dropping down.

In the singles chart in the UK, the average number one

is in the charts four weeks.

That's the number one.

Yeah.

In the strike club.

It's.

So that is why I'm saying.

I think the fact is that it's a lower down charting albums.

That's hence the longevity, which is good.

And also people may be talking about the first album.

This isn't going to slow down.

And that might be the one that's giving it legs as well.

Sorry.

It could be.

Yeah.

And you know, we've been on it.

It's around for 2026.

It's a year as well.

Yeah.

It just keeps going, which is really cool.

And, you know, we've been on other charts.

There's all sorts of charts.

I mean, I'm not going to be on the pop chart.

I'm not a pop artist.

We're in that blues genre and Americana genre here in the US.

We sometimes find ourselves there.

But, you know, our stuff's been so well received in Europe.

In the UK, France, Australia, Canada.

We just have a lot of interest.

And that's what I love.

Maybe about England.

And Europe in general is just the appreciation for music.

Maybe more so than in the US, I feel.

I just feel that, especially sort of the genre I'm in.

The blues of just the reverence for that music is tremendous in the UK.

It's tremendous in France and all over, of course, Europe.

In the UK, that's a very appreciative audience.

It's one that will be quiet and listen and enjoy it.

They will give you applause at the end and they'll give you, you know, a record of applause at the end.

But let me say a little more sophisticated if that's the right wording.

And they're not all millionaires and multi-do people living in batches.

But they're like, yeah, there's that sort of background.

And, yeah, you're not just at the UK.

The type of venues that you probably get booked in and things like that.

There might be more wine bars or larger places.

Yeah.

You know, and I had a pose to a pub in the backstreet or club.

Yeah.

The places to book there are different as well.

Jazz clubs and blues clubs and things.

I had the pleasure of recording with Emma Wilson, who's an English blues singer.

We both work with selector hits.

Johnny Phillips, the great old records is my label.

She's on a different label, but we both distribute around the world through selector hits, which is the company.

And they introduced this.

And so she and I did a Christmas song that I wrote and then she helped co-wrote.

And Ralph Carter jumped in and helped write as well.

And so we did that one and that was just such a delight.

And she had one day in her schedule.

She said, well, I'm touring.

I'm doing a little tour of the mid south in the US.

I got one day where I'm not doing something.

I said, hey, if I wrote a song, would you record it with me?

She said, yeah.

So crazy, just crazy.

We booked a studio and they happen to have one day open in the next six months.

I tried and tried to find a studio.

Johnny Phillips, who, again, through the Phillips family, said, relax, pal.

I'll see if I can make something happen.

And he got us with Royal Studios, famous studio, Al Green recorded everybody's recorded at Royal.

And we recorded with their band, the high rhythm section and put out a couple of Christmas tunes.

And that was just a delightful thing to do.

And particularly to be able to do it with Emma, who has such a good audience in the UK and Europe.

Yeah, we took me down for you.

Definitely.

This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox, giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment.

Oh, yeah.

Chatterbox.

Chatterbox.

Finding a hoodie that lasts through the season can be tough.

The American Giant Classic Fulza Putty is made to last a lifetime.

So you can count on it year after year.

The iconic Classic Fulza Putty is the jacket that started it all for American Giant.

Custom heavyweight fleece inside panels for mobility.

Make it the best hoodie ever.

Every American Giant piece is made in America and designed to last.

No exceptions.

The result is durable clothing like the premium Slub Crew T, no BS high-rise pant and slim roughneck pant that become part of your life.

Snag the hoodie that will bring you comfort for life.

The American Giant Classic Fulza Putty.

Save 20% off your first order at American-Giant.com when you use code staple20 at checkout.

Chatterbox.

If you want the latest technology in your laundry room,

you got to visit the Brian Scarf Upgrade and Save laundry event right now,

with our best price guarantee, helpful experts, and extra bonus savings, plus

next-day delivery on our top-selling GE and GE profile washers and dryers.

It's the best time to upgrade and save.

If you want the latest technology in your laundry room,

you got to visit the Brian Scarf Upgrade and Save laundry event right now,

with our best price guarantee, helpful experts, and extra bonus savings, plus

next-day delivery on our top-selling GE and GE profile washers and dryers.

It's the best time to upgrade and save.

If you want the latest technology in your laundry room,

you got to visit the Brian Scarf Upgrade and Save laundry event right now,

with our best price guarantee, helpful experts, and dryers.

It's the best time to upgrade and save.

See for yourself why Braybeats big.

Visit any of Brian Scarf's convenient locations or shop online at BrianScarf.com.

Where it doesn't cost more to get more.

Chatterbox.

Okay, so let's get to 2026.

Now we've got this valentines this tool to talk about.

We've got this valentines thing, so her name in my song.

I love the picture.

Lots of those love hot sweets with a broken one.

Her name in my song is the big one in the front.

So Christopher Wise and the tellers.

So that was for valentines day.

And we've got another release that came out on March the 5th.

This ain't that.

Tell us about that.

Yeah.

Well, I'll go back.

I'll start with the...

I'll call it the Valentine's tune, but...

Yeah.

It's anything but a valentines tune.

Lovely.

I like it.

It's actually a breakup song, man.

So I had this idea of...

You know, the really...

The punchline of this thing is...

This guy will never, ever under any circumstances,

put her name in my song.

I mean, that's kind of what it is.

So it's kind of a twist.

And I thought, well, I'm going to see if I can write sort of...

Instead of a love song, maybe a hate song.

This dude hates her.

So you listen to the song, and it actually has such a beautiful...

Beautiful music to it that I just...

Just simply adore.

But the lyrics are...

I mean, this guy is...

He's ticked off, man.

He's not happy.

And he's not going to put her name in a song.

And then it became a real challenge for me.

I thought, can I write a song about a girl, you know,

and have it be a love song, which is really a hate song,

and not put her name in the song, and I did it.

We never mentioned her name in the song.

And people come to me and they'll say they listen to the song, say,

all right, Chris, who was the gal that dumped you, man?

I mean, who is this girl?

I'm like, I made the whole thing up.

I never had this happen to me.

I mean, I just made it up.

I had an email come to me.

How the guy found me.

I think he was from Bulgaria.

He goes, I am convinced.

I know who she is in the song.

Her name is Katrina.

And I'm like, yeah, man, if that's who you think it is,

you just go with that.

That's good, man.

And I said, no, there's no girl.

It was all made up.

It trained her in Bulgaria.

So she's there somewhere.

He's running around.

Yeah, okay.

He's over there mad in Bulgaria about some girl who's dumped

in my guess.

But you know, it's so funny.

That's what's great about songs.

You know,

I'm so funny.

That's what's great about songs.

You know,

Britting.

He knew that had to be someone somewhere.

He's taking this thing real seriously.

I'm like, dude, I'm just scooping around.

But you know, we played it.

We played it serious.

No, I actually love the song.

It's one of my favorite songs that we've done.

But we had, I just had a ton of fun with it.

I think I told you I was a writer before I did this.

And so, I mean, I'm a hard gun, man.

You give me an assignment and a deadline and I'll get it done.

Like, you know, people say, well, how could you write this album

and do your first album?

You're 65 years old.

You met in 12 weeks after you agreed to do it.

It's like, I had a deadline.

I used to write for a newspaper.

I used to write for a magazine.

I'm an ad guy.

They don't wait.

They don't wait for you to get your ad lines.

You get your stuff done or you can't live in this business.

I've even done lots of freelance.

So I know how that works.

The deadlines do not work.

And of all you miss that.

Yeah.

You don't miss a deadline.

And if you're free lunch and you miss that,

you don't get any more work at all.

No.

So I think people don't understand, you know,

this hard thing for me was doing great or rough to do it.

Because I knew if I agreed to it, I'd do it.

Yeah.

And I knew it would be hard work.

And so I put it off.

But not for very long.

So we eventually did it.

So the second song, I'll get back to this one next.

The second song is another kind of goofy song.

I actually recorded both of these songs in muscle shows in 2022.

And I didn't do anything with them because they were kind of outliers.

They didn't really fit the vibe of the rest of the album,

my first album, which was pretty much blues most of the way.

And so I just kind of had these songs laying around.

And I played them for Scott Sexton.

He's a guy in a music business, you know,

and I played it for my record label.

And they're like, both of these.

Like, how come you haven't released these songs?

You knucklehead.

These are great.

And so what I'm like, really?

They're like, yes, you have to release this song.

So the second one is this ain't that.

And this was based on, I just, you know, as a songwriter and, you know,

you're a writer, you know, things pop into your head.

So I had this phrase pop into my head.

This ain't that.

And that's where it's at.

And so I thought, well, that's kind of funny.

And it's, you know, it's like, it's kind of like, you know, me and you.

And like, you're, you're, you're in school.

And like, I'm over here, but all the cool people are over there.

You know, they left me out.

This, this ain't that.

And that's where it's at.

So I thought, well, I'll write a song about that someday.

And then I thought, well, I got to tell the story.

And it's like, no, I'm not going to tell the story.

I'm just going to make it a total kind of nonsense song.

That really doesn't have any meaning.

And so that was my idea.

And my inspiration for this song was a great Louis Prima.

And I don't know if you know Louis Prima, but a lot of people know the song Jump,

Jive and Whale, which was a song from the 50s.

A great jump song and great high energy.

And so that was kind of the inspiration.

And one of the things I loved about Louis Prima's Jump, Jive and Whale

was the fact that it didn't mean anything.

It was just a bunch of kind of nonsense to a cool beat that got you up and kind of got you moving, man.

So I thought, can I write a song like that?

I've written serious songs.

My friend got murdered songs.

I mean, I've written all sorts of things.

This guy's a drunk and he's not going to make it.

I mean, I write blue songs.

And then I thought, can I write just a nonsense song?

So there you go.

That's this ain't that.

And we had a lot of fun.

And to make it even more nonsensical,

we were in the studio recording it with Ralph.

And I remember he and I are in the control room.

And maybe somebody's out there playing a solo part or something.

Some instrument.

I said, hey, Ralph.

How would you feel if we put a kazoo on this song?

He's like, oh, kazoo, man.

I love it.

Let's do it.

And I go to Michael who runs the studio.

I say, Michael, you got any kazoo's over here?

You think?

We got kazoo's here?

No, no kazoo's in the studio.

And he's like, Dylan, get over here.

Dylan's the intern.

Dylan, get over here.

Get in the car and go to the music shop and buy some kazoo.

So boom, he goes down the road and comes back.

And you know, he can now say he spent his summer getting kazoo's

for Christopher Wise and the tellers.

But he comes back with kazoo's.

And so we put the kazoo on there.

And it's like, I got this part and I'm kind of playing it.

And it goes up high.

And I'm like, I can't play it.

So I'm like, how many kazoo's we got?

It's like, oh, good.

We got a couple of them.

So I say he can somebody play the tenor part.

Kazoo, the tenor, the tenor kazoo.

And I'll play the bass kazoo.

And I'll play the bass kazoo.

And so we had two kazoo's.

And then I put harmonica in the middle of it.

So that contributes to the high jinks of the song.

I was just listening.

I just watched a movie the other day about the great George Martin,

the producer, who used to produce, you know, silly stuff,

a comedy records and Peter Sellers and the Goon Show and all that stuff.

And so maybe this had a little bit of a tribute to all my great British comedian

kind of folks out there who went ahead of me.

But it was just to be funny and the song's out there.

And I did have somebody send me a note on Facebook or something.

Oh, I really, you know, I got such great meaning out of this song.

I don't know if they were kidding.

But it's like, no, you didn't.

You might need some help.

There's nothing here.

Oh, there was some good stuff.

It could be not.

You never know.

Or something's in the water.

It could be in the water.

This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox.

Giving you all you need to know about musical entertainment.

Oh, yeah, it's Chatterbox.

Every day, excessive delays and denials from big insurers keep patients from accessing the care they need.

And when care is urgent, these delays can be disastrous.

These practices cost billions in wasteful spending, driving up costs for American families.

But while big insurers put up barriers, America's hospitals and health systems are in your corner.

Navigating endless reviews and appeals to get you the care you need when you need it most.

It's time to curb these harmful practices and put the focus back on patients.

Brought to you by the Coalition to Strength in America's Healthcare.

Box!

Finding a hoodie that lasts through the season can be tough.

The American Giant Classic Fulzeh Putty is made to last a lifetime.

So you can count on it to bring you comfort and warmth year after year.

The iconic Classic Fulzeh Putty is the jacket that started it all for American Giant.

Custom heavyweight fleece and side panels for mobility make it the best hoodie ever.

And a double-lined hood and reinforced elbow patches means this hoodie will last.

Born from a commitment to support the communities that create its products,

every American Giant piece is made in America and designed to last.

No exceptions.

The result is durable clothing, like the premium Slub Crew T, no BS high-rise pant,

and slim rough neck pant that become part of your life.

Snag the hoodie that will bring you comfort for life, the American Giant Classic Fulzeh.

And save 20% off your first order at American-Giant.com when you use Code Staple20 at checkout.

That's American-Giant.com Code Staple20.

Box!

If you want the latest technology in your laundry room,

you got to visit the Bray and Scarf Upgrade and Save laundry event right now,

with our best price guarantee, helpful experts, and extra bonus savings, plus.

Next day delivery on our top-selling GE and GE Profile washers and dryers.

It's the best time to upgrade and save.

See for yourself why Bray beats big.

Visit any of Bray and Scarf's convenient locations or shop online at Bray and Scarf.com.

Where doesn't cost more to get more?

Box!

I've got to ask you.

Well, we're talking about things like that.

What did you answer the guy in Bulgaria?

Did you actually say, yeah, yeah, that's her.

Did you actually say, you should have done.

I should have done it, but I think I just thought the easy way and told the truth.

I said, well, I wasn't actually anyone particular, but have a nice day, you know.

Good luck with your life.

You kind of need it.

So, what's the cake?

We're doing social media in just a moment before I let you go.

What's your next plan for 2026?

More singles?

Well, you know, a couple of things have happened in the last two months.

I've done two recording sessions in Nashville, Tennessee.

I've gotten asked to start doing some music for television and movies.

Nothing to announce.

No big scores yet, but I have recorded several things and got a great producer in Nashville now.

I've been working with to make songs for that world.

And he's been very successful and we hope it happens.

These songs were a little bit more country in nature.

And it's really fun, like to write for a movie.

I got a little thing.

Here's like three sentences about the movie.

And it's like, give us this theme song.

And so, you know, again, I'm just having fun with all of this.

It's like, yes, man, because I remembered Jim Riley, the producer.

He's like, hey, I got a hat.

We got to be recording this in 10 days.

He goes, you're going to have to have something written in a day or two.

I said, I'll take it.

Give it to me.

And, you know, I wrote it overnight.

And a few days later, we're recording it in the studio.

And I can't wait for that one to get out there.

We'll release it as a single as well.

I don't care what happens to it in the movie world.

And then I'll be meeting Ralph Carter once again this time in May in Clarkstown, Mississippi.

And with another pile of lyrics, he and I are going to produce another album of originals.

I've got one song written.

And I got some work to do in a deadline, but that's all right.

You'll be good.

You'll be good.

I just want this to be another Katrina somewhere.

I don't care what she's going on.

When we meet next time coming talk about the album when you sold it all out.

I like the song about a guy writing me from Bulgaria.

That might be a good song.

I'm doing it.

I'm just doing a song called a Katrina.

Yeah.

If he says the words, it's about Katrina.

And I said, no, no, it's about Katrina and the wife.

This one.

No, no, no, Nick.

Here's the way I write songs.

I'm going to give you the title of the song.

Her name wasn't Katrina.

That'll be my song.

Very good.

And then in the song, I won't tell you what her name is again.

I got a brilliant.

I love it.

I'm going to write that down.

Her name wasn't Katrina.

That might be on the next album.

I'll keep you posted, man.

I'll tell you what.

Not on either the next album.

It's going to be on the next interview.

Make sure that's our follow-on, all right?

Well, this has been a blast.

I can do this every day with you, man.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It's what I do.

I just like reading real people.

And, you know, like I say, as I say,

there could be a list of sorts of.

So she can't choose the regular on here.

You know her.

Obviously.

Great, great.

You know, she's just a normal person.

Deep down gives her opinions.

That's that.

And boy, is she funny?

Is this what it's like?

We just chat as people.

You got something to say.

I've got a show that I need to guest on.

It works really well.

You know what I mean?

You know, at one time, you know, Nick,

I was talking to Ralph Carter.

And Ralph got started.

I mean, he's probably, I don't know, maybe 20 years old.

And he's playing in front of 25,000 people with.

Eddie money.

And so I'm like, Ralph, I feel like I missed out, man.

I wish I would have done the music thing.

And, you know, I became an advertising guy.

And in that, now I'm getting it to it way and later in life.

And, you know, I feel like, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm just a little wishful thinking, you know,

regretful that I didn't do it.

He goes, no, believe me.

It worked out perfectly.

And if I would have done this at age 25,

would I have been any good?

No, I don't think I would have.

I had to get beat up and run a business and write advertising

and books and do all sorts of things.

You may be, I can't talk.

I don't know.

Obviously, we don't know the 2021 year old Christopher Wise,

but you did.

But then the music business then was the hell of a rat ratio.

You were 20, that would have been your living.

The different thing.

You had to, you've been forced to write stuff.

You probably didn't want to write.

It's where you're writing stuff you do want to write now.

Things like that.

We haven't got much time left.

What I'd like to do is do some social media.

So chuck up web sites.

Any social media got chuck it out of them now, please.

Yeah, Facebook.

So Christopher Wise and the Tellers on Facebook,

we got fans all over the world, which is really fun.

So follow us all that kind of stuff.

We're putting stuff up all the time.

Our YouTube channel is just blowing up.

We're getting close to 10,000 subscribers.

We put up YouTube all the time in the studio, rehearsal,

doing stupid things.

You know, you name it.

We got stuff there.

YouTube channel.

So Christopher Wise and the Tellers.

You can certainly subscribe there.

So I really focus just on Facebook and YouTube.

And in our website, I am a writer and I've written everything there.

And once you get there, you're going to say,

whoa, why'd you write so much?

It's like, I'm a writer, man.

That's what I do.

So our website is Christopher Wise.com.

ChristopherWYZ.com.

There's a bunch of stuff up on there too.

So I'd love to have everybody join us.

And just to get the world we're thinking about,

Christopher Wise, the Wise, is spelled W-Y-Z-E

being the English pronunciation.

So don't go putting in W-I-S-E.

It's W-Y-Z-E.

And you probably find them anyway, but there you go.

So yeah, all good.

That'll do it.

Yeah, that'll get everybody there next.

And we're on every streaming platform.

You know, all over the world, we got a great distributor

in selector hits out of Memphis.

And so they get our music everywhere.

You can look at it.

Whatever you listen to.

I do like, I must say, I do like the her name in my song.

I know you're doing other stuff.

We do do a show.

A live show here in the UK.

Very popular in Europe.

It is called Hit or Miss.

It's a live show.

And we're just getting to the end of the season.

But that I would be quite keen on entering.

I will let you know if we do.

And the listeners vote for it.

And there's all sorts of stuff.

So I'll listen to what else you bring out.

But that one, I think, will be a really good one

for the mainstream audience system this until first.

To get to know you.

Oh, that would be so much.

Leave it with me.

And I'll, I'll keep you posted on it.

I get some good hands.

You get your fans to do it.

But I do it in my partner's shoes.

That's shown.

It's on a Sunday night here in the UK.

It's very, very popular show.

And people vote for what they think is going to be Hit or Miss.

That's fantastic.

Well, to have you do it.

Take it away, man.

That's great.

Okay.

Anyway, this is Chris for Wise.

It's been great meeting you.

Even though it's an hour later than it should have been or whatever.

But it's one.

And I've been told it's my fault.

Yeah.

Of course.

People who changed clothes.

I have the same person in my home, Nick.

Got this one full time.

Anyway.

It's a great pleasure to be on it next time, probably.

Pleasure meeting you.

And yeah, looking forward to this going out and sharing this with the UK audience.

All right.

Well, thank you for coming on Shatterbox UK.

It's a pleasure, Nick.

Thank you.

Thank you.

See you later.

Bye-bye.

You've been listening to the Shatterbox Redux Podcast with me, Nick.

And today, our special guest was Christopher Wise.

If you're interested in becoming a future guest on the Shatterbox Redux Podcast,

or the radio show, Shatterbox UK, you're welcome to submit some books or whatever it is you do.

And send us a CV, synopsis, or press release.

However, we receive several thousand such press releases every week,

and it's impossible to reply to each one individually.

Why not email us or leave a comment, because we'd love to know what you think of the podcast.

Our email address is nickelbum at myahoo.com

alternatively, you could write to us at PO Box 26,

the old observer building, Telford Road, St. Leonard on C, East Sussex, England,

TN38 to 9LZ.

And wherever it is you choose to listen to the Shatterbox Redux Podcast,

don't forget to give us a like, a follow, a favorite, or whatever it is it,

is on that platform, just so you don't miss a future episode.

Sue, myself, Nick, and twinkle the tuxedo cat.

Thank you very much for your company,

and we look forward to welcoming you again next time for another

Chatterbox Redux Podcast.

In the meantime, take care, thank you for your company,

and we catch you then.

This is Nick and Sue,

a Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about music or entertainment.

Oh yeah, Chatterbox,

the best interviews with Nick and Sue.

Chatterbox,

the best news and reviews for you on Chatterbox.

You know what I could really go for right now?

Literally anything that comes in a McDonald's cotton,

wrapper, or bag, or a McDonald's cup.

Yes, any of those items you do it.

We've got your cravings covered.

Now, stop in for the flaky filet of fish,

the crispy snack wrap, or a large fries for just $2.99.

Limited time only, price and participation may vary,

and not be combined with any other offer.

One iced coffee?

99 cents, please.

For real?

No way.

One iced coffee?

99 cents, please.

For real?

No way.

What a deal!

Your new morning groove.

Ice coffee from McDonald's,

any size for just 99 cents to 11 a.m.

Price and participation may vary,

and not be combined with any other offer.